I'll save anybody who read this time, is Will Smith and the Banks. Point. Period. I don't care--I DON'T CARE what your argument is, if you grew up watching other families, if you are racist or if you still watch the Simpsons, is the Banks and that's it!!!
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Im still a little disappointed this show didnt end with a scene of the director going over all the footage and saying, "yeah, we can't use any of this."
Exactly l liked the finale but I thought it would have been created for the finale to show the behind the s wan of the family doing an interview that’s would have been dope to see
No, you don’t. His character is an anti-male stereotype. There is nothing funny about that. There is nothing funny about demonizing fathers the way this show does.
Same. The quality definitely got worse by the end, but it was still fairly consistent and very enjoyable imo. I don't think it had a jumping the shark moment, or any seasons that were just bad- like the office. Tbf I'm quite glad it went on as long as it did even if it was "too long" because I don't mind having a couple of mediocre seasons if it means getting more time with the characters
I will agree that overall, the quality of the show went down in later seasons, I believe they did end it in a very respectable way to fans. They may have dragged it out a bit longer than needed, but it could have been far, far worse.
I felt the decline started immediately with season 8. Sure season 7 had it's problems but it was still funny and I liked Andy and Hailey's relationship. Season 8 though like it felt like no one was trying anymore and the writing was boring and lazy then it got worse from there.
@@CometStar100 , I thought that, but when I rewatched the shows after season 5, the jokes went down; but it was still funny, but after season 9, the show really stopped being good.
@@Cloverdew4406 I actually feel season 6 is my second favorite season. There was a lot that I found good in that season and I found the jokes to be as good as previous seasons. I don't understand why they dragged the show out like this. It really tainted their legacy and season 7 was a perfect place to end the show. I don't understand what they were thinking going beyond 7. Like I don't even want to see any kind of reunion at this point cause it really over stayed it's welcome and proceeded to kill a lot of characters.
Modern Family always makes me feel like home anytime I watch it. It's sad that in the last seasons it felt like the writers did't even try anymore. For example : Hayley was getting more superficial, dumber, she was like a stereotype, while in the former seasons the character was developing and growing into a more mature and intelligent woman. I would have loved to watch each character grow even if we don't see the parents that much and we end up focusing on each kid's life. I've only watched the last season once and it was enough for me, whereas I binge watched the earlier seasons wayyyy too may times.
They ruined Haley when they made her go back to Dylan, her character development during the Andy seasons was probably the best in the entire show, i know he was acting as a guest but they shouldve kept him in the show Man, I feel kinda silly talking about this, im a grown ass man haha but thats just what I think about it
Yea it really sucks that they couldn’t really do anything with her Post Andy break up Like after they wrote his character out of the show they had no idea what to do with her Heck her ending up in a situation Rather relationship with the same guy from season one showed how much she regressed as a person and as a character
@@carlosroo5460 he was in poor health already. Even in the show you see him struggling. It feels like a proper homage rather than a "dead character" episode. The actors genuinely seem stricken
I will always be mad that Haley didn’t end up with Andy, the character of her they developed when she has with him was way better, after they broke up I feel like her character was kinda lost, idk
Imagine calling Frank, Phil’s dad, death unnecessary. That episode was probably the best episode of the entire 11th season. And the fact that the actor actually passed away 4 months later after it aired makes it hit that much more.
I'm sorry, but Frank's death was terrible, we don't have the reaction of any other character besides Phil and after he dies no one mentions him in the series. We don't see any of his grandchildren mourning, nor his daughter-in-law, nor his wife. It would have been much better if the entire ep was Frank spending time with each family member and perhaps helping with something and giving a life lesson, only to show in the end that he was dead. Dede's death was more relevant to the story, there was a whole ep and then some other eps about that tree
The most annoying thing for me in Modern Family was Hayley’s character ‘growth’. The writers never seemed to want her to grow up, she was lazy, selfish and immature and every time we had an episode where Hayley would finally be called out it would end with her yelling and coming up with a new career that the writers would abandon, (her photography, being an influencer, working in fashion) and Phil and Claire apologising to her as usual. (Except when she was arrested at collage and Phil finally gave her a telling off for once). I read somewhere that Sarah Hyland was also disappointed with Hayley’s ending and wanted more for her character. When the writers knew that Andy and Hayley couldn’t be endgame because Andy’s actor was too busy with other projects they should have left her single and given her an amazing career (that stuck) without needing to constantly have a guy by her side. I feel like a bigger surprise and more interesting storyline would have been Alex getting pregnant in college and having the first grand baby instead. It would given Ariel Winter a bigger character storyline instead of just constantly studying all the time.
Alex and Sanjay Patel having a baby together whilst in college would have been really interesting especially as they went to different places, with Alex being close to home at caltech I feel like it could have worked really well
With all the kids, the ones that stayed the same was Lily and Manny. They were too "adult" when they were kids. When they finally got older, it was the samething but them older. Luke became the streetwise, lovable himbo. Haley became a family woman and entrepreneur sorta like her dad. Alex didnt change much but became more human and less "Spock logic" type. Lily and Manny... never changed. Which is the problem when you make kids act like adults.
@@theshockinglyeloquentdog9945 Except that never came for Lily and Manny. At least for me Lily had her moments. I freaking HATE Manny, which is probably why they needed Joe. The Manny + Luke dynamic never amassed to anything. Manny was just an accessory to highlight Gloria's past. Lily had no real connections either, even with her fathers asidd from just being bitchy towards them in the gay stereotype way. However Lily was funny when she was a kid. Manny... annoyed the shit out of me from the moment he appeared on screen. Sorta glad Joe came to kinda phase him out a bit.
Manny became really annoying in later seasons. It's like he was very mature when he was young but then he kind of turned into an annoying child as an adult. An article I was reading really put it into words, "Manny carried a more mature attitude as a child, which was refreshing compared to other kids, but that hasn't translated very well into adulthood. While the rest of the Pritchett, Dunphy, and Tucker-Pritchett kids have matured over the years, many Modern Family fans feel that Manny has done the opposite: become being a whiny, entitled, know-it-all child as he's gotten older.
This is what happens when shows go on for WAY longer than they should. When the kids and teenagers grew up, there was no Ionger any precocious children around, which is why they added Joe in later seasons.
agreed, whenever a new child is added it is time to stop watching a family sitcom. Same thing happened on Blackish when they had another baby. I'm glad the shift to streaming service created shows seems to be shifting things so that when a series starts there is an endgame already planned.
The show failed to give the kids time to shine as growing adults; instead of having episodes focussing on only them and reducing the screen time of the parents, Modern Family did the opposite and only focused on the parents. As well as the massive issue with unresolved plot narratives and missing information regarding personal friendships and careers. The show went on for two long with little growth in the story telling content.
Part of that was intentional. Ty Burrell said they didn't want their characters to grow and change otherwise the things people love about the characters that make them laugh would be gone, or something to that effect. I strongly disagree with that, but that's how writers approach sitcoms. It's comfort viewing.
I think alot of that had to do with several of those kids growing up to be terrible actors. Luke for example was a fan favourite in the beginning, but as he grew up it became painfully obvious that Nolan Gould is not a good actor. This is the case with Manny and especially Lily.
That’s a really good analogy, I never thought of that connection. The Simpsons really hated those saccharine family sitcoms of the 70’s and 80’s, and to some extent it’s always kept a similar pessimistic tone (Bart Simpson being a VERY bad role model for kids), but it’s no longer subversive and just clichéd when held up to edgy cartoons like Family Guy. To some extent EVERYONE is stereotyped in The Simpsons (do-gooder daughter, dutiful housewife, fat sitcom dad who drinks a lot and doesn’t do anything at work), but the early seasons actually did something with that-the characters weren’t JUST stereotypes: they loved one another and had interesting familial dynamics. Modern Family was much more satirical in its execution, at least at the beginning, questioning what it meant to be a family. The Dunphys are the only nuclear family of the three (Jay was divorced, so he, Gloria, and their son don’t count) and Mitch and Cam are presented as just as loving as the others-a rarity for a gay couple on television at the time. Then society progressed and the show wasn’t subversive anymore, and it seemed to have less and less to say about family dynamics besides “Haha laugh at the Colooombian woman’s accent.”
@@cthulhutheendless1587 I feel like family guy entered that same cycle a long time ago. South Park is the only "edgy cartoon" that, for me, is as funny now as it's ever been, and that's down to how they use current topics as ballast.
The characters were flanderized a lot. The same thing happened to the office and parks and rec. Every popular show gets flanderized in the later seasons
I think it's because you have such a big cast then their contracts need to be renewed and they typically ask for a crazy amount of money for their renewed contract which then causes a lot of the writers to be cut which then effects the overall quality of the show. The writers make a show not the actors. I feel once you get to the point where the actors contracts are up in any show then the show should end so the og writers can finish the show they started and then it does not affect the legacy of the show.
I said this, too! They were all flanderised to a certain extent, but I found that Phil and Jay were the most flanderised. Phil became a such a massive idiot who was incredibly immature, and Jay's character did a bit of a 180 into the "silly old grandpa trying to stay relevant" trope and then just stayed there. Of course, these aspects to the two characters were present in parts in the earlier seasons, but there was more to them than just that. All that meat got taken out and we were left with two plain bread buns for characters lmao.
The trope is named for the Simpsons character of Ned Flanders who became a religious stereotype to irritate even Rev Lovejoy. The more episodes that are made, the more that writers forget the more nuanced aspects to the characters and the more general fan impression becomes dominant so that’s what gets played to in the writing room. Character arcs ignored in favour of hijinks, that sort of thing. Characters who are loud and imposing are later written with that as their singular character trait, never mind they realised that people don’t like them for this and tried to change back in season three.
I love modern family but in the later seasons it became its own satire. Every character just got more and more stereotypical and just .. weirder just to be „entertaining“. But in reality the more subtle humor was what made the show great in the first place.
I always felt that they didn’t explore some character relationships much. Also we barely saw characters such as lily. It felt like they repeated plots with the main adult characters.
Lily was there for diversity there was many episodes where she wasn’t even in them, she was more important when she was a baby because it added to the plot and then the show basically didn’t know what to do with her character.
@@valthedestroyer i think phil, jay, and dylan going to fly planes at the end was good should have gone full circle with dylan getting hit by phil flying the plane tho
Haven't watched yet, but "Inevitable" sounds right. When Modern Family first premiered, it was a novel idea to reinvigorate the traditional sitcom. But what was novel like ten years ago, is the 2020s...normal. "We have two dads!" "Cool, so does my friend David."
Lmao also true. They tried something different in that one season 9 episode which touches on the new wave of sociopolitical debate, but that didn't exactly hit. At least not for me.
6 and 7 were actually my favorite seasons. I liked Andy. I enjoyed every episode consistently up until 10 and 11, not because the quality declined but just because, for me, I did not love Haley being a mom, understand the reasoning like the full circle, but it just felt like Haley being pregnant would be the perfect ending.
Andy was actually cringe and unfunny for a sitcom ...they should have not streched him in the show for 3 seasons ,it was perfect if he just left at mitch and cam wedding
And This is ladies and Gentlemen another example that Comedy Shows peak during their season 6- 8 after that's it just Exist happened with FRIENDS, TBBT, Modern family, Been watching The Office at Season 5 let's see how that turn out
The worst interactions in the show are between lily and Jay. He like, directly compares her to Vietnamese prostitutes he was sleeping with with during the war at more than one occasion. All the memories she will have of that guy are going to be terrible and creepy as fuck.
she was never a good actress, I´m sorry to say but she had zero comical effect, that´s why she barely had any plotlines, thank the screenwriters for that, it could have been much worse.
@@Victorcolongarcia Why do people say Lily is a bad actress just because she isn't flamboyant or extra like some of the other characters. If anyone was a "bad actor" it was Luke in the earlier seasons.
I think it's actually impressive the show still managed to be funny and heartwarming even until the end, even if the jokes weren't as funny as the early seasons. The show was definitely not envisioned to last longer than it did, or even as long as it did. They set it up with kids who would be off to college around the time sitcoms usually wrap up. With the kids gone there wouldn't be a show anymore but they continued to do more seasons anyway because the demand was there.
I still liked the last few seasons but what bothered me was the way they ended a lot of the storylines. Mitch, Lily , Cam, and the new baby moving to Missouri in particular really bothers me. Also Alex moving to Switzerland to date her boss? But other than that I think it lasted very well
to be fair, alex moving to switzerland was a lot about working in her new research job to actually make a difference as well. but yes, i wholeheartedly agree about mitch, lily, cam and the baby!
I absolutely loved the kind of humour they started out with, it only got better until season 5, after that the comedy just started feeling somewhat forced, as if they were trying too hard and some characters were made annoying. But anyways, I've got to appreciate the makers of this show for some amazing comedy that they gave us.
Yeah finished the show last week for a second time. I felt the immediate decline in the show was season 8 cause the comedy and writing sucked plus it felt like no one was trying anymore with season 8. Season 7 is where it should of ended cause I felt like there was a lot there to make it a final season plus that season was funny but then they continued the show unfortunately.
Can anyone explain how the Simpsons are still on? No one ever talks about them, I never hear any advertising, and nobody ever does any reviews! Who the hell is keeping them afloat?!
"Cousin Oliver syndrome," or, "cute kid syndrome." Whenever a family sitcom's youngest kids are no longer young enough to be cute and automatically endearing just by being young, they start to expand the cast. Generally with a cute young kid. This is almost always a bad idea. I suppose what they should've done if they really want to keep the show going would have been to gradually phase out the adults and focus exclusively on the kids. You know, drop some of them down to recurring status where they would only turn up four or five times a season, then do that for more and more of the adults, and transition entirely to the kids. Obviously there's no way in hell they would do something like that because it would upset the existing chemistry, but it would've been interesting to see if that kind of thing would've worked
The show started with 3 families all who had been married for a while/ married before. I would have really loved to see a young couple just experiencing their own life for the first time, trying to figure out life issues and such. I mean that's a family too.
Once the writers split into two teams because the creators wouldn't work with each other anymore and they didn't take as many stories from their own lives into the writer's room, it was going downhill with the series fast.
i watched the show for the first time ever this year on hulu from start to finished. almost everyone just became so unlikable by the end of it. everyone had a trope they overused and it was just exhausting having to see the same scenarios go down. every episode is played out the same. some one misunderstood someone else and instead of clarifying they come up with some stupid plan to fix it and make things worse.
Yeah man, same here. The series was so funny in the firsts seasons, but after the Andy broke up with Haley, all started too feel repetitive. The same struggles all over again...
Although the show did start to drop with the kids growing older, in my 20 years of watching sitcoms.. Phil Dunphy is by far the funniest and best performed character I've ever seen! He along with Cam and Mitch totally carried the show.
I’d say the show really went down hill with the increasing number of closet related storylines. They went full circle copying the Office with literally sending Claire to the office.
Its weird that claire's storyline revolves her struggle as stay at home mom going back into working field, becoming privileged boss's daughter, then CEO ranging from season 4 near to early season 11 ONLY to have her resigning her position last minutes? Like what even happen to Prichett's Closet?
True lol Dylan's character felt more interesting when he wasn't w haley he was basically just an accessory at the end of the season whereas Andy actually made sense and had his own character aside from being haley's bf
I watched the whole series for 6 times, and still watching it. I enjoy watching every episode, the script writing is just brilliant, it's not a sitcoms that "squeeze in things just to make more money", the messages the show want to convey, through each episode, is meaningful and powerful, even for the later seasons. Of course every production wants to keep on making more money, but Modern Family do justice for their script as well as actors' performances.
I’m in season 11 on the first watch and have laughed consistently through the whole run of the show. I do think some of the episodes could have been regarding plot but it still doesn’t feel like a downfall
People also forget that these shows provide jobs for hundreds of people. It's not uncommon to want to keep things going in order to provide stable work for everyone involved. He makes it sound like the studio is only motivated by greed and there's probably some truth to that, but that "greed" is keeping people employed.
To me the show should have ended with Luke and Manny's high school graduation. It was the perfect moment. Jay and Manny sharing a scotch was the most emotional moment.
I honestly dont think Modern Family got worse. It was always good and i enjoyed every single episode from the pilot to the finale part 2! I rewatched the entire thing so many times now and i will do it again. What I get is the feeling of the perfect family and perfect life
I honestly think it doesn’t get worse, they do have a problem in the storytelling but the comedy is gold from the beginning to the end, and even with these problems the series is way better than most of other tv shows and holds an impressive quality considering how many seasons it has
I would like to encourage you to make a part 2 essay video as i dont think you went deep enough on the problems and didnt provide enough examples, positive and negative. I would recommend coming back to this topic at a later date and do a deeper dive , as Modern Family and its decline has not really been analyzed very clearly by other essayists and people want to understand more why they stopped liking the show and what they are potentially missing by not watching..
Why I'm Disappointed with Haley Dunphy's Character Development in Modern Family 1. Missed Intro Segment for Haley One major missed opportunity was that Haley never got her own intro segment. Adding a fourth part of the intro with Haley, Dylan, and the twins would have been a great way to highlight her growth and acknowledge her new family role. Even updating the intro to exclude her as a symbol of her maturing would have been a nice touch. 2. Haley’s Stunted Growth Haley initially showed signs of growing up when she started dating Andy and exploring new jobs. She developed skills and had moments of personal growth, like in the episode where she and Claire came to support Alex’s orchestra performance. After Alex brushed them off to return to her friends and even apologized for Haley talking to them, Haley wondered why Alex would do that if she was just being nice. Claire responded with, "Funny, right?"-a moment reflecting how she herself used to be treated by Haley. This showed Haley's newfound empathy, yet, later on, the writers reverted her back to her old stereotype. 3. The Missed Opportunity with Andy Although the actor who played Andy, Adam DeVine, left to pursue other projects, it was disappointing that Haley and Andy didn’t end up together. Their relationship brought out a more mature side of Haley, and seeing her with Dylan instead felt like a return to her less developed self. Sorry if I got any details wrong I might be a bit rusty on the facts! Thanks for reading, though
I disagree that it overstayed its welcome, and this will always remain one of my favourite shows with a very diverse set of characters. 99% sure I'm biased, but opinions are opinions.
I hated how claire was condescending and competitive with her own kids to the point where she had to provoke them even while they got along (rv episode) and how she only gets a slap on the wrist and isnt rightly called out until hailey does it
Aside from showbusiness and money, I guess it's pretty hard to end a show. It either overstays its welcome or it's still awesome and fans want to see more. (I prefer shows ending a little earlier, on a good note. It makes room for something new!)
I wouldn't say Phil's dads death was an 'unnecessary death'... the actor died and so I think it was important they recognise him and the role he played in the show.
It's so weird to me when people are watching a show like Modern Family then complaining that the characters grow and change. They make weird decisions and don't end up in some fairy tale ending that we were "promised". The beauty of this show was that it was relatable. People grow and change. Kids get older, make mistakes, break the mold by becoming who they're going to be in the future.
I always notice the type of filters they use, in the beginning its all bright and yellow and in the end is really dark and blue. That van also give different vibes tho
"Sometimes shows have a way feeling like they are hanging around a little too long." is way understating this problem. Almost all American TV shows with any kind of success run until every last dime is squeezed out to of them.
I agree that the quality diminished in later seasons, but it wasn't too drastic. The show was still entertaining, it just started to feel a bit redundant. I actually thought that the show was at its worst in seasons 7 and 8, and started to improve after that. Although it may have become less relatable, the show remained at a pretty high standard of quality throughout its entire run and had a memorable finale. Edit: Seriously, season 9 was so much more entertaining than 8 even if it did jump the shark a bit
The only thing I hated about this show was that sisnce there were so many character, not everyone was able to shine. They joked about Cam and Mitch not knowing anything about Lily, but it doesn’t make it an excuse to not make a full episode revolve around her than what we barely got
I feel like they should've ended it with Haley and Andy getting together, Manny and Luke graduating high school, Claire taking over the family business, Jay retiring, and stuff.
By the time I was halfway through college, I thought this show was off the air or on it's final days. Didn't realize it actually had an 11 year run. Modern family is perhaps the first 2010's family sitcom as well even though it started in 2009 just because it originally led the way for 2010's family sitcom diversification.
Glee gets credit for putting more prominence on LGBT+, even if the way it’s done is far from subtle and can cause quite a few double standards (a few times at the expense of Finn), but Modern Family did more to normalise it by having the gay couple be one of three main households, and just as flawed and well rounded as the other two for the couple and the family living there. There was much less tokenism, much less of “did you know we are gay” and more of “we are two men who are in a relationship but have a lot more going in our lives”.
My wife and I just finished watching all of Modern Family; I had seen up through maybe season 4 or 5 previously when it was airing live and then a whole bunch of life got in the way, my wife had seen maybe the first 3 seasons previously. We found it pretty difficult to finish around season 8. Seasons 8-11 start to fall into some really repetitive and annoying plot tropes; for example, go back and count how many episodes have a miscommunication trope where one character overhears something out of context, it’s actually infuriating how many times it happens. This is especially annoying because the earlier seasons have plenty of miscommunication trope plot lines, but the writing is so good in those episodes that it works, whereas it starts to fizzle out near the end. That being said, there are still great episodes and character moments in the last few seasons, but they are few and far between versus earlier in the show’s life. All of the kids suffer the longer the show goes on. Much has already been said about Haley’s story, although I think there’s so much to say about it because it’s clearly the best of the kids’. Alex randomly goes boy-crazy in a way that’s not terribly believable, Luke just lives at the house once he graduated high school, Manny has some weird plot lines around going to what is effectively a clown school, and Lily just never has anything to do. To top it all off, all of the Dunphy kids have weird relationships with older people; yes, they’re all adults by the time it starts happening, but it strangely feels like the show is trying to justify Jay and Gloria’s relationship, which they don’t have to do because that relationship feels realistic. And poor Mitch and Cam, I think the writing for them suffers the most. So much of their early season storylines were about accepting themselves and their love for each other, especially as they try and try again to relate to Jay. Once they get married, the emotional climax of their storyline is reached… at the end of the 5th season, only halfway through the show’s length. They then go through stereotypes and tropes of gay couples over and over and OVER again, in a way that I think kinda harms the great work their characters did for gay acceptance in the earlier seasons. It’s especially damning because Cam ends up acting out a lot of those stereotypes and he’s not even the actual gay actor between the two of them. But I still cried when the show ended, and I wanted to see more. The show is probably the last of its kind, a pre-COVID mega-show with star-studded power and a household name that ran far longer than most shows of its kind run. One last thing: I do think the end of the show has a slightly dark twist to it, considering the final season was shot in 2019 with no knowledge or acknowledgment of what we all know happens in 2020. In the show’s universe, everyone goes their own ways shortly after 2020 starts, and one big promise they make to each other is that they’ll all see each other again soon and visit California; however, we know that that wouldn’t be able to happen, since COVID locks down the world, largely eliminating travel. So it leaves the show with this sort of dark, foreboding feeling, since the family decides to break apart to do their own things at what has got to be the worst time to do that. Kind of funny, maybe fitting.
My favorite feature of Modern Family was that it taught even a non-American person like me who grew up in a completely different culture, that the concept of family is universal. Of course, there were some cultural differences, but when I watched it, it felt like a scene from my own family. It has lost this feature in last seasons, it has become boring and somehow "forced". I think the biggest reason for this was that children grew up but they were shown to us very superficially what kind of adults they are becoming when they were growing up. For example they showed the audience very different life path for Hailey, but in the end they tied it to a completely unrelated story. For Alex it was just the opposite, there was no excitement at all. She was only a nerd from the beginning of the show and later on she went out with a couple of guys so we saw that she had a little bit of a human side too. Manny's only thing, I think, is that he's Gloria's son/Jay's stepson and he loves art. There is no depth to the character. It is acceptable for the character to be superficial when he was a child, but the 20-something-year-old man should have a little bit of personality and this needs to be reflected to the audience. I can't say anything about Lily because when she should have grown up and got to discover herself, the show ended. Gloria and Jay's son was a completely unnecessary character. Adding a new child to the show, when there was an opportunity to tell stories about the characters that were already shown and introduced to us for years and show their lives detailed, seemed absurd to me. To summarize, in my opinion, the biggest mistake of Modern Family was that it didn't include the adult lives of the characters, who were children in the beginning of the show, as detailed as their parents.
what personally drew me to this show was the feeling of resinating with the characters. personally i love Phil, Mitch, Cam and Gloria the most because they’re so relatable.
modern family is my favorite show out there. i think its funny and well written and the characters are all so likable. i think that it did have a dip in quality around season 7. and the final season could've definitely been a lot better.
The issue with the show was that the kids got older, got lesser time in the episodes and in general bar maybe Luke and Lily their characters got kinda boring. Had Haley stayed with Andy she would have been Top 3 best characters in the show, but she came back with Dylan and was arguably the worst. Manny's old personality was fun when he was a kid, when he grew older it just stopped being fun. And Alex development wasn't bad but it just could have been way better than your typical trips to Antarctica for research. All in all those latter seasons were still very much watchable but nowhere near season 4 to 6 were the show was just pure gold
I absolutely loved this show at the start. Seasons 1 - 3 were perfect. 4 and 5 were good. From 6 onwards they were fresh out of ideas as the kids were older and just reverted to every episode being absolute chaos with Phil shouting all the time. I gave up around season 7.
Really? I felt seasons 6 and 7 were good. I would say season 6 was one of my favorite seasons. Season 7 was definitely kinda weak but I felt it was still funny and everyone was still trying plus I liked the Andy and Haley stuff. Season 8 is when the show took a nose dive and never recovered. The writing sucked, it wasn't even that funny and it seemed like everyone stopped trying. Season 7 had good setup for everyone to have good endings for their characters but then they dragged the show out for 4 boring seasons.
I have to agree! Seasons 1 - 3 were perfect, and 4 and 5 were very good albeit 5 having a few minor bumps. Seasons 6 and 7 were still good ENOUGH for me to watch, but I avoid some episodes because I don't like them which just doesn't happen in the early seasons. Season 8 was when it became genuinely low-quality for me, and it just got worse and worse from there.
does anybody else feel like this essay didn't add anything? like, "actors get old and will eventually need to stop doing the show" is pretty much true of everything filmed in live action. The comparison to the Simpsons is especially weird since I was pretty sure most people have been ready to give that show the old yeller treatment for at least 10 years.
I seem to agree with most of the people in the comments that the show never got "Bad" it just dipped in quality in the later seasons. As this is my favorite TV show of all time, I personally think the quality of the show over time went like: Seasons 1 -3 : Golden Age but with a slight decline in greatness each season Season 4: Definitely lower than the first 3 seasons but still overall amazing. Especially the final stretch of episodes! Seasons 5 - 6: The first half of season 5 was like season 4, but quality shot way up in the latter half of season 5 and all of season 6. Season 7: Last "Great" season. First half much better than second half. Season 8: Steady decline with a few great episodes mixed in. Season 9: Lowest point of the show for me, but still some really fun episodes (I.E. Lake Life, Wine Weekend) Season 10: Overall better than season 9 with some really heartwarming moments, but still not as good as the first 6.5 seasons. Finally season 10 may have had the greatest episode since Lost Connection with A Year of Birthdays) Season 11: Really sad and heartwarming at times and didn't have as much of the traditional Modern Family comedy as this was the farewell season. (The exception being The Prescott!) Definite rise in quality from season 9 and a good amount of 10 though.
But I personally think thats the exact reason the Modern Family is so good. The characters aren't 2 dimensional and are allowed to change. Usually in Sit-Coms even after the entire character changes these tropes still remain and I feel like that is what the problem is. When a character matures or changes their reactions do too and modern family did that perfectly
I loved this video! Around the 5th season Modern Family began cracking I felt, but during seasons 6 and 7 it still managed to hit more than it missed. By season 8 the hits got rarer and rarer, and season 9 was garbage so I stopped watching. I never considered that the children having grown up could have been the cause, but in hindsight you are totally right! At least for the most part. A telltale sign for me that the show was getting worse was that later on in its run there was a different credited writer and director for practically every episode, and the character flanderisation was awful. I found Phil was the most flanderised here, and Jay was completely ruined as a character when the writers decided to dive deep into the "fusty, silly old man" trope for him. This is more of a nitpick than anything else, but Julie Bowen's obvious facelift/botox was all I could pay attention to in each later episode. It looks comical, and in film/television especially it is distracting as facial acting is so important...and you can't do that so well when you can't move your face! I don't think she could perform that season 3 episode where she was practicing for (and later participating in) the debate with Dwayne Bailey anymore.
Never mind the shows aging. I simply never watched any of the first runs for all those years. Then, suddenly I had 11 seasons to binge. Which I have twice already. FANTASTIC SHOW. Groundbreaking...Not like, "Florals for Spring", but truly groundbreaking. They broke the fourth wall gloriously. It is like we are there, in on the jokes both said & winked. Yes..It was time. I hated seeing 'Mary' go too...But it was time. In case you hadn't noticed...TIME is what we all run out of. TgT
I‘ve watched the show like 4 times, and I still laugh to every joke . I don’t think there was a downfall and I find every joke very smart, creative and funny. The character development is awesome, and the writers created characters that are so alive I feel like I could encounter them in real life. Maybe there are some plot holes, for example, what happened to jay and Phil’s parking area? or Phil’s magic shop? but I think overall Modern Family is an awesome show, that makes me cry, laugh and feel so many different emotions.
Ok can we talk about how incredibly genius Nerdstolgic’s joke with the ad break was? He literally put it over the clip that created the phrase “jumping the shark”
I guess because of the mockumentary format it was shot in, the seperate and still loosely connected episode plots between different characters is what kept me invested in the show the whole time, as opposed to the journey of specific characters. There's something about this shows comedy that felt brilliant and engaging compared to a lot of other sitcoms.
I didn't even see this video, because I feel the show was seriously the perfect combo of everything from humour to love... Out of all the shows I have ever watched the best finale was that of modern family, and it had the perfect ending! Andy and Haley should have ended up together but other than that, there was absolutely NO DOWNFALL for this show, it was just perfect! And it will always have a very special place in my heart!
Modern Family was great when they played it straight. Once they started ACTING funny or TRYING to act funny, it was no longer good. Only the first maybe 6 seasons are good. After that it’s pretty forgettable.
I just finished the series (like literally) and I have to say I can totally understand why some decisions the writers made came off as lazy or unfounded. Especially if you dedicated 12 years of your life being a fan. However for a show that lasted 11 seasons, I simply cannot say it had even one season where I felt the people involved dropped the ball or were completely misguided. Sure I would’ve liked to have seen Manny have more development, and Alex ending up with her sisters ex is incredibly unfair to the character. But I don’t even see those as deeply massive flaws. The show was always about the awkwardness and chaos of life and how beautiful that can be in its own way and it did that very well through all 250 episodes. The show isn’t perfect, none are. But the flaws are so minuscule in contrast to how great the show portrayed life in a big, chaotic but loving family. I totally understand why it lasted for as long as it did.
I started the show two weeks ago, just bc I’m off from school and I finished watching the last episode right now and I’m crying. What a beautiful show. How do I move on with my life now? 😭💔
The show just felt better when the kids were *KIDS* . When they started growing up it just kinda felt sad and bland. Luke was like the funniest character in the first few seasons. Ik everyone grows up but when they started growing up, that’s when it should’ve ended. It should’ve ended around season 5 or 6.
The series finale really irked me. They literally spent 11 years presenting as though we were watching a documentary, I expected the last episode to be maybe them all going to a movie premiere or something. An 11-year story arc that went nowhere
For me personally what made Modern Family hard to watch is Alex's character becoming unbearable. She went from being the different, smart-but-difficult middle child to just downright entitled and annoying a lot of times. I esp hate that one episode when they went on that boat trip to see the eclipse n she brought her boyfriend/mom's assistant which she treated horribly the whole trip and no one gives a shit. I know he's supposed to be a comic relief but man... Not a well written one. Dylan at least is still funny as a comic relief without making Haley or even Claire look like a horrible person. Edit: also hate that when Alex was younger, she was made fun of for being too nerdy she doesnt have experience with boys, but once she gets older she immediately jumps to making bad decisions after bad decisions when it comes to boys, dating boys just to toy with them and 'release stress', even using a high school boy who's obsessed w her for that. Not sure abt the message it sends...
I enjoyed the show and even watched it twice, but on second viewing all of its flaws became bye oblivious to be. It's a very superficial show that relies on stereotypes that are coated with a fresh coat of format (mockumentary). We have a loud latina that is a criminal, a stupid self absorbed teenager, a gay couple who are huge divas that love musicals and are both feminine (it's true that Cam also loves football and he lived on a farm, but that just doesn't change his mannerisms) and more cliches and stereotypes.
no offense to the show or the actors, but i really liked young manny better. he acted really old for his age, and that's what made his character really funny to me.
You have a point there. I felt the adults had a chance to grow throughout the series, but the storylines for the kids were for the most part, not as good as they got older.
I never actually liked this show. It was one of those shows that everyone talked about for a few years that I never understood the appeal of, but all the talk stopped all at once even though the show apparently continued. Glad I never invested any time in it.
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I'll save anybody who read this time, is Will Smith and the Banks. Point. Period. I don't care--I DON'T CARE what your argument is, if you grew up watching other families, if you are racist or if you still watch the Simpsons, is the Banks and that's it!!!
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No.
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TL;DR: nigga chill
Yes sirr
Im still a little disappointed this show didnt end with a scene of the director going over all the footage and saying, "yeah, we can't use any of this."
*chef’s kiss*
That would’ve been perfect
OMG that would of been great! You should of been the writer post season 7 lol
Exactly l liked the finale but I thought it would have been created for the finale to show the behind the s wan of the family doing an interview that’s would have been dope to see
Love this idea
@@lawstshane yeah i wish they sat down and think really deep about 'ummph' factor for the ending
"When life gives you lemonade, make lemons.
Life'll be all like 'what?!'"
-Phil Dunphy
phils-osophy
gotta love him
"Watch a sunrise atleast once a day"-Phil Dunphy
No, you don’t. His character is an anti-male stereotype. There is nothing funny about that. There is nothing funny about demonizing fathers the way this show does.
I personally enjoyed Modern Family from the first episode to the last.
Same here, the show is very consistent imo.
Same. The quality definitely got worse by the end, but it was still fairly consistent and very enjoyable imo. I don't think it had a jumping the shark moment, or any seasons that were just bad- like the office. Tbf I'm quite glad it went on as long as it did even if it was "too long" because I don't mind having a couple of mediocre seasons if it means getting more time with the characters
It peaked at Season 4 for me,took a dip but was still good imo. I also enjoyed it to the end and was teary when it ended
Agree w you
Ditto
I will agree that overall, the quality of the show went down in later seasons, I believe they did end it in a very respectable way to fans. They may have dragged it out a bit longer than needed, but it could have been far, far worse.
The last 2 seasons are borderline unwatchable.
I felt the decline started immediately with season 8. Sure season 7 had it's problems but it was still funny and I liked Andy and Hailey's relationship. Season 8 though like it felt like no one was trying anymore and the writing was boring and lazy then it got worse from there.
@@CometStar100 , I thought that, but when I rewatched the shows after season 5, the jokes went down; but it was still funny, but after season 9, the show really stopped being good.
@@Cloverdew4406 I actually feel season 6 is my second favorite season. There was a lot that I found good in that season and I found the jokes to be as good as previous seasons. I don't understand why they dragged the show out like this. It really tainted their legacy and season 7 was a perfect place to end the show. I don't understand what they were thinking going beyond 7. Like I don't even want to see any kind of reunion at this point cause it really over stayed it's welcome and proceeded to kill a lot of characters.
@@CometStar100 true.
Modern Family always makes me feel like home anytime I watch it. It's sad that in the last seasons it felt like the writers did't even try anymore. For example : Hayley was getting more superficial, dumber, she was like a stereotype, while in the former seasons the character was developing and growing into a more mature and intelligent woman. I would have loved to watch each character grow even if we don't see the parents that much and we end up focusing on each kid's life. I've only watched the last season once and it was enough for me, whereas I binge watched the earlier seasons wayyyy too may times.
They ruined Haley when they made her go back to Dylan, her character development during the Andy seasons was probably the best in the entire show, i know he was acting as a guest but they shouldve kept him in the show
Man, I feel kinda silly talking about this, im a grown ass man haha but thats just what I think about it
@@MegaSilverBlood they couldn't keep Andy as the actor had other films he was making
@@MegaSilverBlood ya I was really hoping she would have ended up with Andy. Dylan was just annoyingly dumb
Yea it really sucks that they couldn’t really do anything with her
Post Andy break up
Like after they wrote his character out of the show they had no idea what to do with her
Heck her ending up in a situation Rather relationship with the same guy from season one showed how much she regressed as a person and as a character
Haley's character is so mean and dumb
When you say useless death and showing the death of Phil's Dad, it's not useless it's an hommage to the actor's death in real life
The episode came out a few months before willard's death
@@vibhavadivi6766 Tssss... Oooh, bad timing.
@@vibhavadivi6766 Oof that's terrible.
@@carlosroo5460 he was in poor health already. Even in the show you see him struggling. It feels like a proper homage rather than a "dead character" episode. The actors genuinely seem stricken
That episode made me cry tbh
I will always be mad that Haley didn’t end up with Andy, the character of her they developed when she has with him was way better, after they broke up I feel like her character was kinda lost, idk
i read that it was the plan after just a few episodes with Andy because they had great chemistry, but Adam Devine's schedule didn't allow that.
YES I SOOO AGREE WITH YOU!! haley andy all the way
You and thousands of others, including me.
If only Andy’s actor didn’t want to go onto other projects
SAME It was so sad ugh
Imagine calling Frank, Phil’s dad, death unnecessary. That episode was probably the best episode of the entire 11th season. And the fact that the actor actually passed away 4 months later after it aired makes it hit that much more.
I'm sorry, but Frank's death was terrible, we don't have the reaction of any other character besides Phil and after he dies no one mentions him in the series. We don't see any of his grandchildren mourning, nor his daughter-in-law, nor his wife. It would have been much better if the entire ep was Frank spending time with each family member and perhaps helping with something and giving a life lesson, only to show in the end that he was dead.
Dede's death was more relevant to the story, there was a whole ep and then some other eps about that tree
The most annoying thing for me in Modern Family was Hayley’s character ‘growth’. The writers never seemed to want her to grow up, she was lazy, selfish and immature and every time we had an episode where Hayley would finally be called out it would end with her yelling and coming up with a new career that the writers would abandon, (her photography, being an influencer, working in fashion) and Phil and Claire apologising to her as usual. (Except when she was arrested at collage and Phil finally gave her a telling off for once).
I read somewhere that Sarah Hyland was also disappointed with Hayley’s ending and wanted more for her character. When the writers knew that Andy and Hayley couldn’t be endgame because Andy’s actor was too busy with other projects they should have left her single and given her an amazing career (that stuck) without needing to constantly have a guy by her side. I feel like a bigger surprise and more interesting storyline would have been Alex getting pregnant in college and having the first grand baby instead. It would given Ariel Winter a bigger character storyline instead of just constantly studying all the time.
Yes i agree sm
EXACTLY the way the show treated Hayley is honestly so annoying because she had so much potential too!!!
She was always incredibly hyper for one thing, but that gave her character.
I absolutely agree I’ve never thought about how interesting the show would be if Alex would get pregnant and Hayley successful
Alex and Sanjay Patel having a baby together whilst in college would have been really interesting especially as they went to different places, with Alex being close to home at caltech I feel like it could have worked really well
With all the kids, the ones that stayed the same was Lily and Manny. They were too "adult" when they were kids. When they finally got older, it was the samething but them older. Luke became the streetwise, lovable himbo. Haley became a family woman and entrepreneur sorta like her dad. Alex didnt change much but became more human and less "Spock logic" type. Lily and Manny... never changed. Which is the problem when you make kids act like adults.
there is a way to make that work though. you could make them loosen up as adults perhaps even becoming surprisingly immature or irresponsible
@@theshockinglyeloquentdog9945 Except that never came for Lily and Manny. At least for me Lily had her moments. I freaking HATE Manny, which is probably why they needed Joe. The Manny + Luke dynamic never amassed to anything. Manny was just an accessory to highlight Gloria's past. Lily had no real connections either, even with her fathers asidd from just being bitchy towards them in the gay stereotype way. However Lily was funny when she was a kid. Manny... annoyed the shit out of me from the moment he appeared on screen. Sorta glad Joe came to kinda phase him out a bit.
@@Felhate i'm not saying they did, i'm saying they could have gone somewhere with it instead of going nowhere with it
Manny became really annoying in later seasons. It's like he was very mature when he was young but then he kind of turned into an annoying child as an adult. An article I was reading really put it into words, "Manny carried a more mature attitude as a child, which was refreshing compared to other kids, but that hasn't translated very well into adulthood. While the rest of the Pritchett, Dunphy, and Tucker-Pritchett kids have matured over the years, many Modern Family fans feel that Manny has done the opposite: become being a whiny, entitled, know-it-all child as he's gotten older.
@@Felhate they didn't know what to do with lily when she grew up
This is what happens when shows go on for WAY longer than they should. When the kids and teenagers grew up, there was no Ionger any precocious children around, which is why they added Joe in later seasons.
Should ended at top of it's career
Joe was funny though. That kid actually had good comedic timing.
@@bknsty14 yeah he felt very natural, which is actually pretty impressive
Cousin Oliver
agreed, whenever a new child is added it is time to stop watching a family sitcom. Same thing happened on Blackish when they had another baby. I'm glad the shift to streaming service created shows seems to be shifting things so that when a series starts there is an endgame already planned.
The show failed to give the kids time to shine as growing adults; instead of having episodes focussing on only them and reducing the screen time of the parents, Modern Family did the opposite and only focused on the parents. As well as the massive issue with unresolved plot narratives and missing information regarding personal friendships and careers. The show went on for two long with little growth in the story telling content.
Part of that was intentional. Ty Burrell said they didn't want their characters to grow and change otherwise the things people love about the characters that make them laugh would be gone, or something to that effect. I strongly disagree with that, but that's how writers approach sitcoms. It's comfort viewing.
I think alot of that had to do with several of those kids growing up to be terrible actors. Luke for example was a fan favourite in the beginning, but as he grew up it became painfully obvious that Nolan Gould is not a good actor. This is the case with Manny and especially Lily.
@@serenaistheb.o.a.t how is it not a good actor?
@@serenaistheb.o.a.t you're a not very smart person
@@serenaistheb.o.a.t the kids all sucked except for hayley the parents were always better so I agree
Reminds of Simpsons
Was an original idea making fun of stereotypes, ends of becoming what it was making fun of
Likewise, it becomes a parody of itself before too long.
It's why they're called "Zombie Simpsons"
Or how they became a satire of themselves.
That’s a really good analogy, I never thought of that connection.
The Simpsons really hated those saccharine family sitcoms of the 70’s and 80’s, and to some extent it’s always kept a similar pessimistic tone (Bart Simpson being a VERY bad role model for kids), but it’s no longer subversive and just clichéd when held up to edgy cartoons like Family Guy. To some extent EVERYONE is stereotyped in The Simpsons (do-gooder daughter, dutiful housewife, fat sitcom dad who drinks a lot and doesn’t do anything at work), but the early seasons actually did something with that-the characters weren’t JUST stereotypes: they loved one another and had interesting familial dynamics.
Modern Family was much more satirical in its execution, at least at the beginning, questioning what it meant to be a family. The Dunphys are the only nuclear family of the three (Jay was divorced, so he, Gloria, and their son don’t count) and Mitch and Cam are presented as just as loving as the others-a rarity for a gay couple on television at the time. Then society progressed and the show wasn’t subversive anymore, and it seemed to have less and less to say about family dynamics besides “Haha laugh at the Colooombian woman’s accent.”
@@cthulhutheendless1587 I feel like family guy entered that same cycle a long time ago. South Park is the only "edgy cartoon" that, for me, is as funny now as it's ever been, and that's down to how they use current topics as ballast.
They were suppose to destroy them, not join they're Force!!
The characters were flanderized a lot. The same thing happened to the office and parks and rec. Every popular show gets flanderized in the later seasons
I think it's because of bad writing, not staying on air too long
I think it's because you have such a big cast then their contracts need to be renewed and they typically ask for a crazy amount of money for their renewed contract which then causes a lot of the writers to be cut which then effects the overall quality of the show. The writers make a show not the actors. I feel once you get to the point where the actors contracts are up in any show then the show should end so the og writers can finish the show they started and then it does not affect the legacy of the show.
I said this, too! They were all flanderised to a certain extent, but I found that Phil and Jay were the most flanderised. Phil became a such a massive idiot who was incredibly immature, and Jay's character did a bit of a 180 into the "silly old grandpa trying to stay relevant" trope and then just stayed there. Of course, these aspects to the two characters were present in parts in the earlier seasons, but there was more to them than just that. All that meat got taken out and we were left with two plain bread buns for characters lmao.
The trope is named for the Simpsons character of Ned Flanders who became a religious stereotype to irritate even Rev Lovejoy. The more episodes that are made, the more that writers forget the more nuanced aspects to the characters and the more general fan impression becomes dominant so that’s what gets played to in the writing room. Character arcs ignored in favour of hijinks, that sort of thing. Characters who are loud and imposing are later written with that as their singular character trait, never mind they realised that people don’t like them for this and tried to change back in season three.
The Goldbergs do the same thing when flanderizing their characters.
I love modern family but in the later seasons it became its own satire. Every character just got more and more stereotypical and just .. weirder just to be „entertaining“. But in reality the more subtle humor was what made the show great in the first place.
I always felt that they didn’t explore some character relationships much. Also we barely saw characters such as lily. It felt like they repeated plots with the main adult characters.
They definitely recycled plots. Phil and Claire redoing their race, or Phil and Jay going to fly planes again comes to mind.
Lily was there for diversity there was many episodes where she wasn’t even in them, she was more important when she was a baby because it added to the plot and then the show basically didn’t know what to do with her character.
@@bryeetsonny9458 actually Lily's actor wanted to focus more on school so she wasn't on the set much
@@valthedestroyer i think phil, jay, and dylan going to fly planes at the end was good should have gone full circle with dylan getting hit by phil flying the plane tho
That's why I eventually stopped. It felt like I was just watching the same episode over and over again, hearing the same jokes again and again.
Haven't watched yet, but "Inevitable" sounds right. When Modern Family first premiered, it was a novel idea to reinvigorate the traditional sitcom. But what was novel like ten years ago, is the 2020s...normal.
"We have two dads!" "Cool, so does my friend David."
Lmao also true. They tried something different in that one season 9 episode which touches on the new wave of sociopolitical debate, but that didn't exactly hit. At least not for me.
6 and 7 were actually my favorite seasons. I liked Andy. I enjoyed every episode consistently up until 10 and 11, not because the quality declined but just because, for me, I did not love Haley being a mom, understand the reasoning like the full circle, but it just felt like Haley being pregnant would be the perfect ending.
Andy was actually cringe and unfunny for a sitcom ...they should have not streched him in the show for 3 seasons ,it was perfect if he just left at mitch and cam wedding
And This is ladies and Gentlemen another example that Comedy Shows peak during their season 6- 8 after that's it just Exist happened with FRIENDS, TBBT, Modern family, Been watching The Office at Season 5 let's see how that turn out
As soon as Lily became older, my comic relief disappeared
The worst interactions in the show are between lily and Jay.
He like, directly compares her to Vietnamese prostitutes he was sleeping with with during the war at more than one occasion. All the memories she will have of that guy are going to be terrible and creepy as fuck.
@@Porlarta LMAO, Jay is an asshole and that's why people love him. He's got a fucked up sense of humor.
she was never a good actress, I´m sorry to say but she had zero comical effect, that´s why she barely had any plotlines, thank the screenwriters for that, it could have been much worse.
@@Victorcolongarcia Why do people say Lily is a bad actress just because she isn't flamboyant or extra like some of the other characters. If anyone was a "bad actor" it was Luke in the earlier seasons.
@@Victorcolongarcia LMAO, you dumb af. She was great in her role. Always sassy, snarky and a great contrast to her flamboyant fathers.
I think it's actually impressive the show still managed to be funny and heartwarming even until the end, even if the jokes weren't as funny as the early seasons. The show was definitely not envisioned to last longer than it did, or even as long as it did. They set it up with kids who would be off to college around the time sitcoms usually wrap up. With the kids gone there wouldn't be a show anymore but they continued to do more seasons anyway because the demand was there.
I still liked the last few seasons but what bothered me was the way they ended a lot of the storylines. Mitch, Lily , Cam, and the new baby moving to Missouri in particular really bothers me. Also Alex moving to Switzerland to date her boss? But other than that I think it lasted very well
realistically Mitch and Cam would've never left all their friends, their family to move to a farm. It didn't make any sense.
to be fair, alex moving to switzerland was a lot about working in her new research job to actually make a difference as well. but yes, i wholeheartedly agree about mitch, lily, cam and the baby!
@@gabriel-kr4nh but her dating her boss just seems inappropriate and weird
@@katherinenotyou23 oh yeah totally, i agree, it was super uncomfortable to watch
@@katherinenotyou23 her boss that dated her sister before her lmao
I absolutely loved the kind of humour they started out with, it only got better until season 5, after that the comedy just started feeling somewhat forced, as if they were trying too hard and some characters were made annoying. But anyways, I've got to appreciate the makers of this show for some amazing comedy that they gave us.
yes, exactly!
yep!!
Couldn't agree with this more!
Perfect timing, just finished a rewatch of the series a couple days ago.
Same 😅
I just finished the series rewatch like a week ago lol nice
LMAO, same here!!!
Finished my third rewatch just the other day
Yeah finished the show last week for a second time. I felt the immediate decline in the show was season 8 cause the comedy and writing sucked plus it felt like no one was trying anymore with season 8. Season 7 is where it should of ended cause I felt like there was a lot there to make it a final season plus that season was funny but then they continued the show unfortunately.
Can anyone explain how the Simpsons are still on? No one ever talks about them, I never hear any advertising, and nobody ever does any reviews! Who the hell is keeping them afloat?!
Money laundering and the twelve nerds who are rich superfanatics.
The mafia
I've been wondering this myself for some time now.
Right? I thought the show ended in the early 2010s so knowing it's still around is a surprise!
The illuminati
"Cousin Oliver syndrome," or, "cute kid syndrome." Whenever a family sitcom's youngest kids are no longer young enough to be cute and automatically endearing just by being young, they start to expand the cast. Generally with a cute young kid. This is almost always a bad idea. I suppose what they should've done if they really want to keep the show going would have been to gradually phase out the adults and focus exclusively on the kids. You know, drop some of them down to recurring status where they would only turn up four or five times a season, then do that for more and more of the adults, and transition entirely to the kids. Obviously there's no way in hell they would do something like that because it would upset the existing chemistry, but it would've been interesting to see if that kind of thing would've worked
The show started with 3 families all who had been married for a while/ married before. I would have really loved to see a young couple just experiencing their own life for the first time, trying to figure out life issues and such. I mean that's a family too.
@@hittingyouoverthehead I think youre forgetting jay and gloria had only been married a few months at the start of the series
Once the writers split into two teams because the creators wouldn't work with each other anymore and they didn't take as many stories from their own lives into the writer's room, it was going downhill with the series fast.
i watched the show for the first time ever this year on hulu from start to finished. almost everyone just became so unlikable by the end of it. everyone had a trope they overused and it was just exhausting having to see the same scenarios go down. every episode is played out the same. some one misunderstood someone else and instead of clarifying they come up with some stupid plan to fix it and make things worse.
Yeah man, same here. The series was so funny in the firsts seasons, but after the Andy broke up with Haley, all started too feel repetitive.
The same struggles all over again...
@@Arquias andy and alex were never a couple. did u mean haley?
@@333imaan my bad!! Its Haley
Although the show did start to drop with the kids growing older, in my 20 years of watching sitcoms.. Phil Dunphy is by far the funniest and best performed character I've ever seen!
He along with Cam and Mitch totally carried the show.
I’d say the show really went down hill with the increasing number of closet related storylines. They went full circle copying the Office with literally sending Claire to the office.
The closet storylines are really forgettable and overused. The only episode I enjoyed was when Gloria was at the office
Its weird that claire's storyline revolves her struggle as stay at home mom going back into working field, becoming privileged boss's daughter, then CEO ranging from season 4 near to early season 11 ONLY to have her resigning her position last minutes? Like what even happen to Prichett's Closet?
One thing I cannot forgive the writers is how they did Haley dirty at the end.
SHE 👏 DESERVED 👏 BETTER 👏
She deserved Andy
@@Unmercey1360 yes Andy was end game. I hated Dylan from the moment he first stepped on screen till the end.
@@INA-ry9wj Ikr? She Was starting to grow up and focus on important things and they put this knucklehead again. Smh
True lol Dylan's character felt more interesting when he wasn't w haley he was basically just an accessory at the end of the season whereas Andy actually made sense and had his own character aside from being haley's bf
I watched the whole series for 6 times, and still watching it. I enjoy watching every episode, the script writing is just brilliant, it's not a sitcoms that "squeeze in things just to make more money", the messages the show want to convey, through each episode, is meaningful and powerful, even for the later seasons. Of course every production wants to keep on making more money, but Modern Family do justice for their script as well as actors' performances.
yes same, personally I think it’s great from start to end
I’m in season 11 on the first watch and have laughed consistently through the whole run of the show. I do think some of the episodes could have been regarding plot but it still doesn’t feel like a downfall
I have no problem with any season either.
Then you are a very easy to please consumer. Exactly what the advertisers want.
People also forget that these shows provide jobs for hundreds of people. It's not uncommon to want to keep things going in order to provide stable work for everyone involved. He makes it sound like the studio is only motivated by greed and there's probably some truth to that, but that "greed" is keeping people employed.
To me the show should have ended with Luke and Manny's high school graduation. It was the perfect moment. Jay and Manny sharing a scotch was the most emotional moment.
I honestly dont think Modern Family got worse. It was always good and i enjoyed every single episode from the pilot to the finale part 2! I rewatched the entire thing so many times now and i will do it again. What I get is the feeling of the perfect family and perfect life
Same. It reminded me of my family. Every episode reminded me of some memory; sometimes happy, sometimes sad, sometimes painful, but all good.
It objectively got worse.
@@kq2488 well..i would say some people liked it some did not..nd tht's fine
I honestly think it doesn’t get worse, they do have a problem in the storytelling but the comedy is gold from the beginning to the end, and even with these problems the series is way better than most of other tv shows and holds an impressive quality considering how many seasons it has
I would like to encourage you to make a part 2 essay video as i dont think you went deep enough on the problems and didnt provide enough examples, positive and negative. I would recommend coming back to this topic at a later date and do a deeper dive , as Modern Family and its decline has not really been analyzed very clearly by other essayists and people want to understand more why they stopped liking the show and what they are potentially missing by not watching..
I agree.
This has been about only 1 out of the 2 video reviews on UA-cam that I've seen chat about this show's flaws in regards to its later seasons.
There was no downfall. Loved them, enjoyed the show. Will miss it.
Maybe this is an unpopular opinion but I thought it was great all the way to the end 👍
me too!
Why I'm Disappointed with Haley Dunphy's Character Development in Modern Family
1. Missed Intro Segment for Haley
One major missed opportunity was that Haley never got her own intro segment. Adding a fourth part of the intro with Haley, Dylan, and the twins would have been a great way to highlight her growth and acknowledge her new family role. Even updating the intro to exclude her as a symbol of her maturing would have been a nice touch.
2. Haley’s Stunted Growth
Haley initially showed signs of growing up when she started dating Andy and exploring new jobs. She developed skills and had moments of personal growth, like in the episode where she and Claire came to support Alex’s orchestra performance. After Alex brushed them off to return to her friends and even apologized for Haley talking to them, Haley wondered why Alex would do that if she was just being nice. Claire responded with, "Funny, right?"-a moment reflecting how she herself used to be treated by Haley. This showed Haley's newfound empathy, yet, later on, the writers reverted her back to her old stereotype.
3. The Missed Opportunity with Andy
Although the actor who played Andy, Adam DeVine, left to pursue other projects, it was disappointing that Haley and Andy didn’t end up together. Their relationship brought out a more mature side of Haley, and seeing her with Dylan instead felt like a return to her less developed self.
Sorry if I got any details wrong I might be a bit rusty on the facts! Thanks for reading, though
I disagree that it overstayed its welcome, and this will always remain one of my favourite shows with a very diverse set of characters. 99% sure I'm biased, but opinions are opinions.
I hated how claire was condescending and competitive with her own kids to the point where she had to provoke them even while they got along (rv episode) and how she only gets a slap on the wrist and isnt rightly called out until hailey does it
Aside from showbusiness and money, I guess it's pretty hard to end a show. It either overstays its welcome or it's still awesome and fans want to see more. (I prefer shows ending a little earlier, on a good note. It makes room for something new!)
Main problems with later seasons
1. Undoing Hayley's growth
2. Turning Luke into Quagmire
3. Manny and Alex, in general. And sometimes, Gloria
I was just lost on why the Modern Family Filter got more blue
I wouldn't say Phil's dads death was an 'unnecessary death'... the actor died and so I think it was important they recognise him and the role he played in the show.
It's so weird to me when people are watching a show like Modern Family then complaining that the characters grow and change. They make weird decisions and don't end up in some fairy tale ending that we were "promised". The beauty of this show was that it was relatable. People grow and change. Kids get older, make mistakes, break the mold by becoming who they're going to be in the future.
I always notice the type of filters they use, in the beginning its all bright and yellow and in the end is really dark and blue. That van also give different vibes tho
Van has to be can 🤦🏼♀️
"Sometimes shows have a way feeling like they are hanging around a little too long." is way understating this problem. Almost all American TV shows with any kind of success run until every last dime is squeezed out to of them.
I agree that the quality diminished in later seasons, but it wasn't too drastic. The show was still entertaining, it just started to feel a bit redundant. I actually thought that the show was at its worst in seasons 7 and 8, and started to improve after that. Although it may have become less relatable, the show remained at a pretty high standard of quality throughout its entire run and had a memorable finale.
Edit: Seriously, season 9 was so much more entertaining than 8 even if it did jump the shark a bit
I feel the same way. The last seasons (especially 9) are actually better than the seasons in the middle.
@@thiagodeoliveira9294 I would actually say I prefer 10 and 11 to 9, but all are pretty good
The only thing I hated about this show was that sisnce there were so many character, not everyone was able to shine. They joked about Cam and Mitch not knowing anything about Lily, but it doesn’t make it an excuse to not make a full episode revolve around her than what we barely got
when it comes to overstaying the welcome I definitely think of Grey’s Anatomy first. That show is NOTHING like what it once used to be
I feel like they should've ended it with Haley and Andy getting together, Manny and Luke graduating high school, Claire taking over the family business, Jay retiring, and stuff.
I feel like the US version of Shameless had a similar problem when Fiona left, and characters like Debbie and Carl took weird turns all of a sudden
Given the topic of overstaying, I really would like to see what you guys’s thoughts are on The Walking Dead series
they have no ideia what they're doing anymore
If they were actually modern, then half the kids would've still stayed with their parents until age 30.
Now THAT'S good drama!
BINGO!! 😆🤣😂
I feel personally attacked T_T
ha ha no
You're named after an std
@@firstlast1103 Nah Bro, the std was named after me
By the time I was halfway through college, I thought this show was off the air or on it's final days. Didn't realize it actually had an 11 year run. Modern family is perhaps the first 2010's family sitcom as well even though it started in 2009 just because it originally led the way for 2010's family sitcom diversification.
Glee gets credit for putting more prominence on LGBT+, even if the way it’s done is far from subtle and can cause quite a few double standards (a few times at the expense of Finn), but Modern Family did more to normalise it by having the gay couple be one of three main households, and just as flawed and well rounded as the other two for the couple and the family living there. There was much less tokenism, much less of “did you know we are gay” and more of “we are two men who are in a relationship but have a lot more going in our lives”.
Frank wasnt a unnecessary death the actor literally passed away
Can't even believe your timing, guys. Started the rewatch and currently midway through the 10th season
Modern family and the middle were shows I loved watching with my mom. She passed away last year and I adore rewatching those shows.
May she rest in peace
My wife and I just finished watching all of Modern Family; I had seen up through maybe season 4 or 5 previously when it was airing live and then a whole bunch of life got in the way, my wife had seen maybe the first 3 seasons previously.
We found it pretty difficult to finish around season 8. Seasons 8-11 start to fall into some really repetitive and annoying plot tropes; for example, go back and count how many episodes have a miscommunication trope where one character overhears something out of context, it’s actually infuriating how many times it happens. This is especially annoying because the earlier seasons have plenty of miscommunication trope plot lines, but the writing is so good in those episodes that it works, whereas it starts to fizzle out near the end. That being said, there are still great episodes and character moments in the last few seasons, but they are few and far between versus earlier in the show’s life.
All of the kids suffer the longer the show goes on. Much has already been said about Haley’s story, although I think there’s so much to say about it because it’s clearly the best of the kids’. Alex randomly goes boy-crazy in a way that’s not terribly believable, Luke just lives at the house once he graduated high school, Manny has some weird plot lines around going to what is effectively a clown school, and Lily just never has anything to do. To top it all off, all of the Dunphy kids have weird relationships with older people; yes, they’re all adults by the time it starts happening, but it strangely feels like the show is trying to justify Jay and Gloria’s relationship, which they don’t have to do because that relationship feels realistic.
And poor Mitch and Cam, I think the writing for them suffers the most. So much of their early season storylines were about accepting themselves and their love for each other, especially as they try and try again to relate to Jay. Once they get married, the emotional climax of their storyline is reached… at the end of the 5th season, only halfway through the show’s length. They then go through stereotypes and tropes of gay couples over and over and OVER again, in a way that I think kinda harms the great work their characters did for gay acceptance in the earlier seasons. It’s especially damning because Cam ends up acting out a lot of those stereotypes and he’s not even the actual gay actor between the two of them.
But I still cried when the show ended, and I wanted to see more. The show is probably the last of its kind, a pre-COVID mega-show with star-studded power and a household name that ran far longer than most shows of its kind run.
One last thing: I do think the end of the show has a slightly dark twist to it, considering the final season was shot in 2019 with no knowledge or acknowledgment of what we all know happens in 2020. In the show’s universe, everyone goes their own ways shortly after 2020 starts, and one big promise they make to each other is that they’ll all see each other again soon and visit California; however, we know that that wouldn’t be able to happen, since COVID locks down the world, largely eliminating travel. So it leaves the show with this sort of dark, foreboding feeling, since the family decides to break apart to do their own things at what has got to be the worst time to do that. Kind of funny, maybe fitting.
This show was great when it started but it had no business winning the best comedy series Emmy 5 years in a row
First 3 seasons were the best
I got to series 5
Painful by then
100% agree. They were legendary.
My favorite feature of Modern Family was that it taught even a non-American person like me who grew up in a completely different culture, that the concept of family is universal. Of course, there were some cultural differences, but when I watched it, it felt like a scene from my own family. It has lost this feature in last seasons, it has become boring and somehow "forced". I think the biggest reason for this was that children grew up but they were shown to us very superficially what kind of adults they are becoming when they were growing up.
For example they showed the audience very different life path for Hailey, but in the end they tied it to a completely unrelated story. For Alex it was just the opposite, there was no excitement at all. She was only a nerd from the beginning of the show and later on she went out with a couple of guys so we saw that she had a little bit of a human side too. Manny's only thing, I think, is that he's Gloria's son/Jay's stepson and he loves art. There is no depth to the character. It is acceptable for the character to be superficial when he was a child, but the 20-something-year-old man should have a little bit of personality and this needs to be reflected to the audience.
I can't say anything about Lily because when she should have grown up and got to discover herself, the show ended. Gloria and Jay's son was a completely unnecessary character. Adding a new child to the show, when there was an opportunity to tell stories about the characters that were already shown and introduced to us for years and show their lives detailed, seemed absurd to me. To summarize, in my opinion, the biggest mistake of Modern Family was that it didn't include the adult lives of the characters, who were children in the beginning of the show, as detailed as their parents.
what personally drew me to this show was the feeling of resinating with the characters. personally i love Phil, Mitch, Cam and Gloria the most because they’re so relatable.
i really liked all seasons. Meant alot to me that show.
I love this show, it's consistent af imo.
modern family is my favorite show out there. i think its funny and well written and the characters are all so likable. i think that it did have a dip in quality around season 7. and the final season could've definitely been a lot better.
The issue with the show was that the kids got older, got lesser time in the episodes and in general bar maybe Luke and Lily their characters got kinda boring. Had Haley stayed with Andy she would have been Top 3 best characters in the show, but she came back with Dylan and was arguably the worst. Manny's old personality was fun when he was a kid, when he grew older it just stopped being fun. And Alex development wasn't bad but it just could have been way better than your typical trips to Antarctica for research. All in all those latter seasons were still very much watchable but nowhere near season 4 to 6 were the show was just pure gold
Imo modern family is one of the very few shows to run that long and never get old or have a bad season
I absolutely loved this show at the start.
Seasons 1 - 3 were perfect.
4 and 5 were good.
From 6 onwards they were fresh out of ideas as the kids were older and just reverted to every episode being absolute chaos with Phil shouting all the time.
I gave up around season 7.
Really? I felt seasons 6 and 7 were good. I would say season 6 was one of my favorite seasons. Season 7 was definitely kinda weak but I felt it was still funny and everyone was still trying plus I liked the Andy and Haley stuff. Season 8 is when the show took a nose dive and never recovered. The writing sucked, it wasn't even that funny and it seemed like everyone stopped trying. Season 7 had good setup for everyone to have good endings for their characters but then they dragged the show out for 4 boring seasons.
I have to agree! Seasons 1 - 3 were perfect, and 4 and 5 were very good albeit 5 having a few minor bumps. Seasons 6 and 7 were still good ENOUGH for me to watch, but I avoid some episodes because I don't like them which just doesn't happen in the early seasons. Season 8 was when it became genuinely low-quality for me, and it just got worse and worse from there.
Really? Season 7 was one of my favourites! For me, season 9 felt useless and forced and then it declined to 10 and 11
@@madamebkrt The Australia episode in season 5 was trash. That was the bump 🤣
@@themoon7435 Yeah I think that was the first genuinely bad episode. The bikeys were funny though.
does anybody else feel like this essay didn't add anything? like, "actors get old and will eventually need to stop doing the show" is pretty much true of everything filmed in live action. The comparison to the Simpsons is especially weird since I was pretty sure most people have been ready to give that show the old yeller treatment for at least 10 years.
I seem to agree with most of the people in the comments that the show never got "Bad" it just dipped in quality in the later seasons. As this is my favorite TV show of all time, I personally think the quality of the show over time went like:
Seasons 1 -3 : Golden Age but with a slight decline in greatness each season
Season 4: Definitely lower than the first 3 seasons but still overall amazing. Especially the final stretch of episodes!
Seasons 5 - 6: The first half of season 5 was like season 4, but quality shot way up in the latter half of season 5 and all of season 6.
Season 7: Last "Great" season. First half much better than second half.
Season 8: Steady decline with a few great episodes mixed in.
Season 9: Lowest point of the show for me, but still some really fun episodes (I.E. Lake Life, Wine Weekend)
Season 10: Overall better than season 9 with some really heartwarming moments, but still not as good as the first 6.5 seasons. Finally season 10 may have had the greatest episode since Lost Connection with A Year of Birthdays)
Season 11: Really sad and heartwarming at times and didn't have as much of the traditional Modern Family comedy as this was the farewell season. (The exception being The Prescott!) Definite rise in quality from season 9 and a good amount of 10 though.
But I personally think thats the exact reason the Modern Family is so good. The characters aren't 2 dimensional and are allowed to change. Usually in Sit-Coms even after the entire character changes these tropes still remain and I feel like that is what the problem is. When a character matures or changes their reactions do too and modern family did that perfectly
I loved this video! Around the 5th season Modern Family began cracking I felt, but during seasons 6 and 7 it still managed to hit more than it missed. By season 8 the hits got rarer and rarer, and season 9 was garbage so I stopped watching. I never considered that the children having grown up could have been the cause, but in hindsight you are totally right! At least for the most part. A telltale sign for me that the show was getting worse was that later on in its run there was a different credited writer and director for practically every episode, and the character flanderisation was awful. I found Phil was the most flanderised here, and Jay was completely ruined as a character when the writers decided to dive deep into the "fusty, silly old man" trope for him.
This is more of a nitpick than anything else, but Julie Bowen's obvious facelift/botox was all I could pay attention to in each later episode. It looks comical, and in film/television especially it is distracting as facial acting is so important...and you can't do that so well when you can't move your face! I don't think she could perform that season 3 episode where she was practicing for (and later participating in) the debate with Dwayne Bailey anymore.
Never mind the shows aging. I simply never watched any of the first runs for all those years. Then, suddenly I had 11 seasons to binge. Which I have twice already. FANTASTIC SHOW. Groundbreaking...Not like, "Florals for Spring", but truly groundbreaking. They broke the fourth wall gloriously. It is like we are there, in on the jokes both said & winked. Yes..It was time. I hated seeing 'Mary' go too...But it was time. In case you hadn't noticed...TIME is what we all run out of. TgT
I would love to see a video like this about blackish 🤔
Few shows understand, “Quit while you’re ahead”.
I‘ve watched the show like 4 times, and I still laugh to every joke .
I don’t think there was a downfall and I find every joke very smart, creative and funny.
The character development is awesome, and the writers created characters that are so alive I feel like I could encounter them in real life.
Maybe there are some plot holes, for example, what happened to jay and Phil’s parking area? or Phil’s magic shop?
but I think overall Modern Family is an awesome show, that makes me cry, laugh and feel so many different emotions.
Luke in the earlier seasons was hilarious but he turned into a corny high school bully
Ok can we talk about how incredibly genius Nerdstolgic’s joke with the ad break was? He literally put it over the clip that created the phrase “jumping the shark”
I guess because of the mockumentary format it was shot in, the seperate and still loosely connected episode plots between different characters is what kept me invested in the show the whole time, as opposed to the journey of specific characters.
There's something about this shows comedy that felt brilliant and engaging compared to a lot of other sitcoms.
I didn't even see this video, because I feel the show was seriously the perfect combo of everything from humour to love... Out of all the shows I have ever watched the best finale was that of modern family, and it had the perfect ending! Andy and Haley should have ended up together but other than that, there was absolutely NO DOWNFALL for this show, it was just perfect! And it will always have a very special place in my heart!
Modern Family was great when they played it straight. Once they started ACTING funny or TRYING to act funny, it was no longer good. Only the first maybe 6 seasons are good. After that it’s pretty forgettable.
in which universe was Cameron written as "laid-back"? I LOVE THAT DRAMA QUEEN SO MUCH
I just finished the series (like literally) and I have to say I can totally understand why some decisions the writers made came off as lazy or unfounded. Especially if you dedicated 12 years of your life being a fan.
However for a show that lasted 11 seasons, I simply cannot say it had even one season where I felt the people involved dropped the ball or were completely misguided. Sure I would’ve liked to have seen Manny have more development, and Alex ending up with her sisters ex is incredibly unfair to the character. But I don’t even see those as deeply massive flaws.
The show was always about the awkwardness and chaos of life and how beautiful that can be in its own way and it did that very well through all 250 episodes. The show isn’t perfect, none are. But the flaws are so minuscule in contrast to how great the show portrayed life in a big, chaotic but loving family. I totally understand why it lasted for as long as it did.
If there is going to be a new modern family spinoff im definitely going to enjoy it
Modern Family Started , Modern Family Ended but the Step was never fixed. 🤣
I started the show two weeks ago, just bc I’m off from school and I finished watching the last episode right now and I’m crying. What a beautiful show. How do I move on with my life now? 😭💔
VERY rarely does a show, especially a sitcom, run for as long as Modern Family did without turning for the worse at the end
The show just felt better when the kids were *KIDS* . When they started growing up it just kinda felt sad and bland. Luke was like the funniest character in the first few seasons. Ik everyone grows up but when they started growing up, that’s when it should’ve ended. It should’ve ended around season 5 or 6.
The series finale really irked me. They literally spent 11 years presenting as though we were watching a documentary, I expected the last episode to be maybe them all going to a movie premiere or something. An 11-year story arc that went nowhere
For me personally what made Modern Family hard to watch is Alex's character becoming unbearable. She went from being the different, smart-but-difficult middle child to just downright entitled and annoying a lot of times. I esp hate that one episode when they went on that boat trip to see the eclipse n she brought her boyfriend/mom's assistant which she treated horribly the whole trip and no one gives a shit. I know he's supposed to be a comic relief but man... Not a well written one. Dylan at least is still funny as a comic relief without making Haley or even Claire look like a horrible person.
Edit: also hate that when Alex was younger, she was made fun of for being too nerdy she doesnt have experience with boys, but once she gets older she immediately jumps to making bad decisions after bad decisions when it comes to boys, dating boys just to toy with them and 'release stress', even using a high school boy who's obsessed w her for that. Not sure abt the message it sends...
Yes, and when she's having a breakdown everything just gets cringy and it happens a lot after she joined college
I enjoyed the show and even watched it twice, but on second viewing all of its flaws became bye oblivious to be. It's a very superficial show that relies on stereotypes that are coated with a fresh coat of format (mockumentary). We have a loud latina that is a criminal, a stupid self absorbed teenager, a gay couple who are huge divas that love musicals and are both feminine (it's true that Cam also loves football and he lived on a farm, but that just doesn't change his mannerisms) and more cliches and stereotypes.
no offense to the show or the actors, but i really liked young manny better. he acted really old for his age, and that's what made his character really funny to me.
You have a point there. I felt the adults had a chance to grow throughout the series, but the storylines for the kids were for the most part, not as good as they got older.
One great show that overstayed it’s welcome
I never actually liked this show. It was one of those shows that everyone talked about for a few years that I never understood the appeal of, but all the talk stopped all at once even though the show apparently continued. Glad I never invested any time in it.
They should have had more storylines around Lily. Her character felt underused.
The kids got old.... thats all that happened
I was 18 when the show started... I got hooked right away on the first episode.
I always hated the way Gloria portrayed the most exagerated version of latino stereotype
Is she really the MOST exaggerated stereotype of Latinos?