It's a great theory.👍 I've ONLY got 2 disputes with it. 1. FFPS has an opening mini game that shows Shadow Freddy existing at this time by mimicing Take cake to the children, Charlotte Emily's death's first reveal. 2. Mike makes more sense due to Afton's threat, because until being considered an asset during SL's gameplay Mike and William Afton NEVER really got along. That said I believe that if Shadow Freddy is born After CC's death in Fnaf 4, which by location alone occurs before Charlotte Emily's death, CC is Shadow Freddy at this point and would be calling Mike out of his room. Mike was known to lock CC in his room. William Afton in MM has trouble with the runway locking themselves in their room. Something Mike as an 'Angsty Teen' would do. CC died broken so while his remnant is a part of Golden Freddy(see the week before), his agony from his dying day could easily become Shadow Freddy, an off shoot of a dying broken soul, literally his mind and spirit split in two. The pain of a dying child made manifest among the evidence of William Afton's wickedness, Fredbear's family diner, where an employee died suddenly after Afton helped him into a Spring Bonnie suit. Shadow Bonnie tries to help the MCI rest in Fnaf 3 but Shadow Freddy ONLY wants to see William Afton pay for his crimes, like UCN Fredbear and Mike post SL.
While I do think your theory has a lot of good points, there is an important flaw in it, and it is that it paints Shadow Bonnie in a more malevolent light, while he has been shown in a more benevolent light, as some have pointed out. His role in FNAF AR as a guardian of Remnant and him helping setting the MCI souls free in his Happiest Day mini game from FNAF 3. HOWEVER, I think I’ve found the perfect solution for that hole. One of FNAF 3’s strangest details is that in the minigames between the nights, Shadow Bonnie’s sprite looks like Toy Bonnie, but in his Happiest Day minigame he looks a lot more like Springtrap and the shadow Springbonnie casts in FNAF 4. So im thinking that maybe Scott changed his mind during FNAF’s 3 development and retconned Shadow Bonnie to look like Springbonnie, explaining why he looks different in FNAF 2
i have never been convinced that CC is the runaway but if i had to believe it, this is how. The recliner is a great call out, good job for noticing that. The mound always struck me as where William buried Elizabeth (since he wouldn't be able to show her body without raising suspicion) or the entrance to CBEAR. But i dont believe CC died after her, so Mrs. Afton fits rlly well. overall great theory as always dude
@@latlequin1 he could’ve but since fnaf 2 we’ve only seen the shadows in the pixel minigames. No need to remodel the 3d one if he won’t even need it. But thinking on fnaf 3 shadow Bonnie in the minigame he definitely doesn’t look like a toy Bonnie at all.
FFPS had screens that had an Afton lookalike wearing various trench coats and suits, one of which was a mustard coloured suit, hat and business suit. Look at the pictures like 'You can't prove anything.'
One theory that I had and COULD solve Midnight Motorist (In a different way though) is that the "Coming Home" story from the Fazbear Frights books isn't about Susie's family. Instead, it's about the Afton family but with the story's elements swapped like this: -Susie = Crying Child -Samantha = Michael -Patricia = Michael's mother -Hayden = William -Chica = Fredbear (Or Shadow Freddy) -Gretchen = The Fredbear plush -The oak tree = That strange amount of dirt on the Midnight Motorist game Here's a brief plot summary with some of these elements swapped: "In this tale, we meet the Crying Child, an imaginative and empathetic boy, and his brother Michael, who is intelligent yet serious. A few years prior, the Crying Child died on a family restaurant. His spirit now lingers in their home, unable to communicate directly with his grieving mother and brother. His mother blames herself for the Crying Child’s death through the whole story. Meanwhile, Michael struggles with the emotional fallout, attending therapy but feeling trapped by memories of their last fight over a Fredbear plushie. Across the story, the Crying Child’s spirit seeks connection with Michael, leading him to convey messages through drawings. These images express Crying Child’s longing for their bond and the urgent need to find the plush before he’s taken away permanently by Fredbear, one of the restaurants' animatronics. He discovers the plushie in a secret room which his father used to make stories about. Michael escapes outside as Fredbear chases after. Michael’s determined search for the plushie culminates in a confrontation with Fredbear, allowing him to finally hand the plushie to his brother. Their heartfelt reunion provides closure as the Crying Child is liberated, symbolically moving towards a place of peace and family". With this new context, we can see a few similarities between Susie's family from the story and Michael's families from the games and the movie: -Both families have two kids (Crying Child & Michael; Susie & Samantha). -The youngest kids died (Susie and Crying Child). -The eldest kids have to deal with their loss (Michael & Samantha). -Susie has a doll; Crying Child has a plushie. -Susie uses drawings to convey messages to her sister; Crying Child (seemingly) uses drawings to convey messages to his brother (On the Survival Logbook). -Susie's house had a secret room; the Afton house was connected to other locations (Like Circus Baby's Entertainment and rental). -In the story, Susie's father left because it was "too hard" and he needed space. In the FNAF movie, Michael's father left because he "couldn't handle it". -In the story, Susie's mom is filled with depression over her daughter's death. In the FNAF movie novelization, Michael's mom is filled with depression over Garrett's disapperance and passes away when Abby was only a few years old. -In the story, the doll was hidden in a secret room on Susie's house. In Sister Location, the Fredbear plushie can be seen on the secret room that leads to the fake ending during Night 5. With all of these in mind, I came to the conclusion that the person in the chair during Midnight Motorist is Michael's mom and that the runaway kid is Michael, who escaped through the window to venture into the forest and see his brother for the last time (While being chased by a Fredbear illusion or a shadow animatronic).
“The thing BV saw” can’t be the employee putting on the suit or the “corpse” in the back room. He’s already terrified of the animatronics before FNaF 4; those things may amplify his fear, but they aren’t the original cause.
I was wondering recently if the reason that our MM William isn't purple is because William isn't the one that is literally purple - that's Michael. Granted, later on than MM, but since thice was the game directly after SL and with the post-scoop cut scenes leading to the whole Willtrap/Miketrap confusion, maybe that's why William's sprite isn't purple here. Plus, yeah, he's kind of ambiguously between orange and yellow, but his speech text *is* yellow, which is the complimentary colour to purple, which, along with the car, still connects MM William to the colour purple. Dunno if this is reasonable or not, but I was pondering it.
how does shadow bonnie have the right foot shape? Id assume his feet are like toy bonnies, being square and having 4 square shapes toes, not 3 round ones but then again i do see the similarity on the way theres a gap between the feet and toes, unlike the fully flat connected feet of fnaf 1's animatronics or shadow freddy
Shadow freddy Since the FFPS intro shows cakebear turning into shadow freddy Charlie's death and agony created shadow freddy As nightmare says: "Im your wickness made of flesh"
There are even more things connecting Shadow freddy to Charlie. Nightmarionne replacing Nightmare in the halloween update of fnaf 4, Nightmare having red eyes, a golden top hat and a golden bowtie, while Lefty is the inverse, having a golden eye, red tophat and bowtie.
Great video! It definitely pushed me to believe Shadow Bonnie made the footprints. I’m still incredibly 50/50 on the mound of dirt, but overall this fits in nicer with our general understanding of the timeline than mine, so I’ll gladly take it unless we get more info.
A rare MM theory that I have no issues with! Impressive work, you brought up a lot of points I have never heard before but make a lot of sense together. I'd be interested to hear you talk more about Shadow Bonnie and come to a more solid conclusion of where it came from under this theory. But otherwise great video!
I think that Miss Afton died in the fall fest fire in 1983, and she is buried in the mound in Midnight Motorist. This theory is from @RGBTombstone. The point of the theory is that in Security Breach, the sticky note room where the mimic made the Afton family copy Ms.Afton was at the end of the table which signifies that she is the leader/head of the family. But then in the last Fall Fest which was in 1983 in Help Wanted, we know that a fire broke out. This theory believes that Ms.Afton died in that fire, which would motivate William to kill Charlie because the theory also states that Henry is what started the fire. This could also give a reason to why Henry made the puppet because he knows how erratic William can be. William could also be jealous at the same time as Henry seems to have a perfect relationship. Also in the farmhouse in Help Wanted a secret easter egg shows up showing “IT’S ME” which we know is related to Henry via the Silver Eyes. The theory also states that she is the reason why the family didn’t get messy since she is the one who stops William from being an abusive parent. That is why when William talks to Mike in Midnight Motorist he is telling William to leave Dave alone. But due to William’s nightmare animatronics Mike started to hate Dave because he ran away which made William start the nightmare project.
With how out-there a lot of Midnight Motorist theories tend to be, I wasn't expecting this one to be so grounded and reasonable. You make a great point about Hide And Seek's suspicious similarities, as well as why BV would even be haunted by Shadow Bonnie in the first place. Very cool! 8:13 The foot shape isn't great evidence as Shadow Bonnie actually has rectangular feet, since his base model, Toy Bonnie, does as well.
Something that might add to this: I don't remember where, but someone once pointed out that in the books it's said that Afton was victim to a springlock failure at some point BEFORE he becomes springtrap. What IF the crying child is scared of the Bonnie suit because it once went off and seriously injured his dad? What if William Afton experiencing a minor(?) springlock failure and getting injured but not dying is what CC Saw?
Alright, it’s an interesting theory. But my response would end up being a bit long, cuz I might get flamed for this… I swear, for some reason after AftonMM got confirmed by Flaf, people are already jumping to the conclusion of BVRunaway so fast. I assume it’s because it’s what was the first idea of AftonMM back in 2017 since AftonMM was intended, but my biggest gripe is just how the narrative and evidence wise that bothers me with BVRunaway. Personally, I don’t necessarily see why Shadow Bonnie is the reason that BV would be scared of the animatronics in the first place, it’s all associated with Fredbear for a specific reason, but somehow we’re never given a “Nightmare Spring Bonnie” in FNAF 4, ironically we got Plushtrap. I really lean towards Shadow Freddy being the one stalking the Aftons. And there’s also the identities for each plot devices for vice versa. I seriously don’t know at this point, it’s the lack of appearance since Scott had to tie up loose ends with FFPS. I just want say that I believe in MikeRunaway in my whole life all because I could see him being disobeying William at times, and I really can’t see why he’ll go back bullying his brother after stepping down against William when he was drunk. To me, it feels a bit out of character to “tie up loose ends.” And yep, this is why I believe Mrs. Afton is just the Couch Potato. More of she’s there to be this figure who is Michael’s motivation to go against Afton after the Big Bite, I feel like the TV connection would show how Michael is different from his Dad but how he’s motivated to care like his mother. And what do I think is the mound? BV in the box. I will say, MrsAftonMound is a cool theory, but I’m still skeptical with BVRunaway. (At least I agree with “That place” being Fredbear’s) The Hide & Seek idea is interesting, but I actually want to talk about something about the books since we’re leaning towards these books being within continuity. The way we’re treating stuff with the books as “narrative parallels” just feels to hypocritical now. And the reason it’s hypocritical is because we had half of the community being die hard book believers to make arguments with theory channels like Game Theory, FuhNaff, and ID’s Fantasy to be incorrect with how to handle the Frights and Tales books and say that “narrative parallels” fit better to have them coexist. My whole opinion on this is that it sounds ridiculous, mainly because it reusing something that people antagonized by rehashing it to “fit better” to make things “simple.” But If we’re taking that to end the argument, then how would we explain why Matpat and FuhNaff’s parallels didn’t work when we’re reusing the idea to make it easier? If they end up being wrong about how they’re interpreting it all due to Scott’s screw-ups with SB, then this might go to our idea of “narrative parallels” as well. I know that it doesn’t have to be a 1:1 narrative, but to me, I just feel like these stories are just karma fanfics that tend to exist for some unknown reason. And I feel like people already jumping into the conclusion of BVRunaway is a little skeptic. Mainly because they’ll say “Oh I believed in this theory long before” when they believed in a different theory that contradicted what’s suggested/assumed in newer content. So what are my thoughts on AftonMM post-Flaf. I’m still a MikeRunaway believer, and I might wait for the full release of Flaf to come out. But all I can say is the highly enjoyed the video
I do think its weird that Scott named the mysterious purple clone of golden freddy, Shadow Freddy. But he named the black shadow of Toy Bonnie, RWQFSFASXC. I know everyone calls it Shadow Bonnie, but even in FNAF World his name is RXQ, and yet Shadow Freddy stays Shadow Freddy? I've always thought these were 2 different characters that aren't related to one another, sure they both crash your game in FNAF 2, but yet Shadow freddy appears in FNAF 3, and not UCN. And RXQ shows up in UCN with a darkness gimmick... Also! Not to mention the shadow DD is named XOR, and NOT Shadow DD... Looking at this theory, I think Shadow Freddy might be the one to stalk Dave/CC, because even though you said the costume with the hair is a Spring Bonnie suit, it could very well be a Fredbear suit without the Bowtie, and Shadow Freddy is an exact copy of Fredbear/Golden Freddy... RXQ is a shadow of Toy Bonnie, not Spring Bonnie... Also! if Dave/CC Was being stalked by Shadow Freddy, this would explain Nightmare from FNAF 4. In the game files Nightmare is called Shadow Freddy, and if FNAF 4 was originally supposed to be Dave/CC as the protagonist, than that would explain why Shadow Freddy is the final boss in FNAF 4, the ultimate Nightmare... And yes, Nightmare has some UCN Lines such as "I Am Your Weakness Made Of Flesh." Or "The Shadow Fears Me.", which adds to this theory. Final thought! Nightmare's jumpscare noise has always perplexed me, since Scott definitely didn't plan Sound illusion disks back when he made FNAF 4, so why does Nightmare make this noise? I think the theory that its a low pitched and distorted ambulance siren makes sense, especially since the jumpscare itself is Nightmare gazing into your soul. As if Nightmare stares at Dave/CC as he slowly passes away in the ambulance. (He most likely dies in the hospital since theres the Iv bag and flowers easter eggs)...
After watching the video I think It's a pretty solid theory which I agree with. I had been thinking for a long time that the footprints belonged to Shadow Freddy. However, Shadow Bonnie being the one who left the footprints makes more sense. If It was Shadow Freddy he would have left a half of his corpse. Moreover, We have never seen Shadow Bonnie sitting he has always been standing. Great theory like always. I hope It gets the recognizment It deserves.
My only issue with this theory is the fact that there is no evidence that Scott intended Shadow Bonnie to be anything more than an Easter egg character when this game released. Yeah I guess he could be more important that just that, but it seems strange that he thought we could solve it with the information provided at the time. It just doesn’t seem right to me
“YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE, IT WAS SAID THAT MIKERUNAWAY WAS MORE LIKELY, NOT BVRUNAWAY. BRING BALANCE TO THE FORCE, NOT LEAVE IT TO THE BVRUNAWAY TSUNAMI!!!”
I loved this theory! It makes a lot of sense though I wonder why RWQ would specifically go after CC after either seeing an employee going into a spring bonnie suit or the possible dead kid in the back. Wouldn't it attach itself to William or did I miss a detail? Also why was the window broken? It doesn't make much sense for CC to break his window to escape. Those are my only questions! Overall though VERY good theory! I loved it!
Didn't Afton killed Charlie because of Dave's(cc) death? So no way he's the runaway; but the text implies 2 males in the house, the one watching tv, and the runaway. So if this thing is accurate as being Afton after killing Charlie, that means Charlie is the first to die and once again the timeline has been shattered. I say Dave is already dead in MM, and the child watching tv is s ghost, the runaway is Michael, I've never seen evidence of Afton treating Dave like he's treating the runaway here, so Mike fits better since he "killed" Dave; and the tv child being a ghost or a hallucination doesn't seem too farfetched for this situation as Afton is in not the best of mental states in this particular night.
7:40 The sprite has the same colored legs as they do shirt. This means they have horrible fashion sense, or are wearing a blanket on the recliner. What this have to do with the lore? Well, if those are their legs, then they are quite tall. Maybe even taller than Will. If it is Mike, does that mean Mike is an Adult and CC (Dave) never died, and still goes to Fredbears? Does that mean FNAF 4 is real and takes place AFTER the mini games? After all, if Dave died, wouldn’t he have a gravestone in the end of FNAF 6? Ir it’s a blanket.
I think the fact that Dave / CC is knowen for curling up and crying I don’t think he would run somewhere it doesn’t fully for his fear reaction Based on other theory’s I think Mike running or William kidnapping someone based on the NMG story is more possible But CC is still a valid theory
"That place" is which ever fazz location in the books so many people are "drawn too" Ella(alarm clock?) doll lady who dies in a hvac vent. Multiple kids. I havent read books but if I get a good list ill be back
I'll have to say that this is the most compelling BVRunaway theory I've seen so far. I personally believe in MikeRunaway, specifically the way RyeToast linked Mike to the Old Man Consequences, since it has a more satisfying narrative to me. But this is an insteresting one for sure. The only thing I would critique is relating to the death order. Presuming (I hate that we have to presume) that the Help Wanted 2 graves were telling us the death order (with Charlie last), then, by your theory, the MCI would've happenned before BV/Dave's death, which I think we all agree that it was still around 1983 most likely. But that's mostly of my critique to your theory (I really hate the HW2 graves)
Nah the HW2 graves can't be death order because we have tons of evidence across all continuities that Charlotte died first, so I think the death order we had before HW2 is still the case. Thanks for commenting!
This theory could mean one thing, Shadow Bonnie (Aka. Eleanor) borned not from the MCI but Afton's first victim. Even tho your theory isn't quite true.
My evidence against BVrunaway is: 1. Charlie died on Halloween 1982 in TSE (backed up by the Fnaf 4 halloween update having Nightmarionne replace Nightmare, meaning the puppet is linked to Halloween), but her grave (with an update birthday of 1980, instead of the established 1978) says she died in 1983, and HW2 uses the SL 1983 code to get the Puppet Doll. 2. BV dies in Summer 1983. BV dies BEFORE Charlie, based on the new info. 3. Shadow Freddy (Nightmare is Shadow Freddy in the files. Meaning Nightmare is short forb"Nightmare Shadow Freddy") is made from "William's wickedness" and takes on the form of Golden Freddy Specifically. And Shadow Bonnie off Toy Bonnie. Makes more sense if they're created from the MCI and DCI, respectively. Incidents that are clear instances of William's wickedness on full display. 4. Shadow Bonnie DOESN'T have the classic styled 3 toes like in MM. So how does Shadow Freddy exist BEFORE "William's Wickedness made into flesh" was created, and happen to BV after Charlie's death, when Charlie died AFTER BV?? Only thing against MikeRunaway to me is Couch person's identity.
Personally, I don't think this theory is correct. Not because it's poorly crafted, but I find it rather unlikely for several reasons: 1. According to this theory, why does Mike start treating his brother badly in FNAF 4? This behavior does not seem to have a logical explanation following this interpretation. 2. If the minigame takes place before the events of FNAF 4, then neither Freddy's nor Fredbear's should have existed yet. This creates a time discrepancy that is difficult to justify. 3. The Crying Child seems to be more related to Shadow Freddy, He was bitten by Fredbear, who is a bear, and then we talk about agony, Nightmare = Shadow Freddy. These elements seem to point more in that direction. 4. The idea that the 'Run Away Kid' is the Crying Child doesn't hold up for several reasons: We never see William berate the Crying Child. Also, as I said before, Mike mistreats the Crying Child in FNAF 4, and only seems to regret it at the end, not before. Furthermore, it is hardly credible that such a small child could break a window. So, even if the theory is well structured, it seems decidedly unlikely to me
I agree about Shadow Freddy and the theory being a bit unlikely, but I disagree with some of the other points you brought up. First off, we know Fredbear's opened in 1979 or something around that and Freddy's in '83. MM does not rely on Freddy's for the story in this theory, but it does need Fredbear's. And yes, CCRunaway might seem pretty unlikely as well but with the evidence I brought up I personally believe it, at least for now. Thanks for the feedback!
honestly I don't take the springbonnie topper as a lore revelation. Because it's an incomplete noncanon game, doesn't matter what the unused content say either, we don't use them to solve Security Breach or the other games so why here. If we're using information from an unfinished noncanon spinoff than why aren't we doing the same for Freddy in Space or Fury's Rage or something? At least there's more reason to use them because unlike the FLAF they're finished with no reason for anything in them to change. We don't know if the topper will still be in FLAF at launch they can and will change literally anything within now and than. Even than, it's still noncanon
Thank you! Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one pointing out how FLAF isn't a mainline game and isn't made by Scott. It's a spinoff game made by a completely different studio! It's much more likely, in my opinion, that the topper and such is an easter egg they threw in from a popular theory that was seen online. Like, this is such a weird catch-22 for Scott to be in, as well. If he requests that they remove the topper because it's confusing the fanbase about a "solvable" minigame then AftonMM is immediately not true to the community and confirms it's not Afton. But if he says nothing about it, the community will take his silence as fact even if that's not his intention.
Fun theory, except it ignores other evidence that Scott has presented. Such as William cares about Dave immensely doesn't track with how the Yellow Guy acts, Scott has always depicted William Afton as purple, the minigame therefore has no thematic relevance to its pair in Fruity Maze, Michael saying to leave the individual alone because they had a rough day doesn't track with how Michael acts (Mainly that if Dave had a rough day, it'd have been because of Michael bullying him), and the biggest issue (For me personally) is that Five Laps at Freddy's isn't a game made by Scott. It's not a mainline game. Scott, from what I've heard, has very little to do with that project. So who's to say that the Midnight Motorist car isn't just the devs of that game taking a popular theory from the internet and tossing it into their game as an easter egg? This isn't Kingdom Hearts where every single lore drop on every single swallow with a smart phone strapped to its face is definitely canon. KH is handled exclusively by Tetsuya Nomura. FNAF is no longer handled exclusively by Scott Cawthon. Unless Scott himself releases something that says "Oh this bit of lore that these devs dropped for you outside of main game timeline is legit" or something to that affect, I'm not going to count it as evidence and I'm certainly not going to be convinced. Steel Wool is an obvious exception to the "Scott words or bust" rule as he is (After the fun of Security Breach) heavily involved in the main games and passed the torch onto Steel Wool. The Dave solution is the biggest screech of "the simplest answer is usually the right one." Seems way more likely that, instead of trying to tell some weird deep lore about the Afton's in no way that really connects to the Afton family, it's following the theme of the other major minigames in Pizzeria Simulator, who each tell the story of one of the children who loses their life: Charlie with Security Puppet. Susie with Fruity Maze. And (my own theory on which kid here) Cassidy with Midnight Motorist. Those would be the 3 biggest "deaths" caused by William. Charlie because "wound first inflicted on me," Susie because "I was the first, I have seen everything," and Cassidy because "the one you should not have killed."
William does NOT care about Dave or any of his kids, that's a huge misconception. As for the rest, I think AftonMM is much more likely and I think discrediting FLAF is a bit strange.
I'm sorry if you think I'm clickbaiting you - I made a post about this and I explain it there but essentially the reason I formulate the video like this is because it's the only way I can show you guys my theory, and I want more people to be able to see it. I do my best to make different thumbnails, but it doesn't work. I hope you understand
@@WitheredCircle Well now I feel bad xd. Yeah I guess if you're passionate about a theory then you should do what you can to share it. I didn't think of it like that.
@@longfishy thanks for understanding man, and it's ok, I get it. I don't have malicious intents or anything I just want more people to see my content, that's all.
What makes me upset about all of this if it is true is that it makes william have no motive to murder charlie and the other kids. He is just a murderer for science. At least we have more of a definitive order of events of who died.
Remember to comment your thoughts on this INSANE theory once you finish it! And trust me, you'll WANT to finish this one 😉
It's a great theory.👍 I've ONLY got 2 disputes with it. 1. FFPS has an opening mini game that shows Shadow Freddy existing at this time by mimicing Take cake to the children, Charlotte Emily's death's first reveal. 2. Mike makes more sense due to Afton's threat, because until being considered an asset during SL's gameplay Mike and William Afton NEVER really got along. That said I believe that if Shadow Freddy is born After CC's death in Fnaf 4, which by location alone occurs before Charlotte Emily's death, CC is Shadow Freddy at this point and would be calling Mike out of his room. Mike was known to lock CC in his room. William Afton in MM has trouble with the runway locking themselves in their room. Something Mike as an 'Angsty Teen' would do. CC died broken so while his remnant is a part of Golden Freddy(see the week before), his agony from his dying day could easily become Shadow Freddy, an off shoot of a dying broken soul, literally his mind and spirit split in two. The pain of a dying child made manifest among the evidence of William Afton's wickedness, Fredbear's family diner, where an employee died suddenly after Afton helped him into a Spring Bonnie suit. Shadow Bonnie tries to help the MCI rest in Fnaf 3 but Shadow Freddy ONLY wants to see William Afton pay for his crimes, like UCN Fredbear and Mike post SL.
While I do think your theory has a lot of good points, there is an important flaw in it, and it is that it paints Shadow Bonnie in a more malevolent light, while he has been shown in a more benevolent light, as some have pointed out. His role in FNAF AR as a guardian of Remnant and him helping setting the MCI souls free in his Happiest Day mini game from FNAF 3. HOWEVER, I think I’ve found the perfect solution for that hole. One of FNAF 3’s strangest details is that in the minigames between the nights, Shadow Bonnie’s sprite looks like Toy Bonnie, but in his Happiest Day minigame he looks a lot more like Springtrap and the shadow Springbonnie casts in FNAF 4. So im thinking that maybe Scott changed his mind during FNAF’s 3 development and retconned Shadow Bonnie to look like Springbonnie, explaining why he looks different in FNAF 2
I don't believe CC is the runaway because I don't think CC would bust out a window and run by an animatronic, he would hide under his bed
i have never been convinced that CC is the runaway but if i had to believe it, this is how. The recliner is a great call out, good job for noticing that.
The mound always struck me as where William buried Elizabeth (since he wouldn't be able to show her body without raising suspicion) or the entrance to CBEAR. But i dont believe CC died after her, so Mrs. Afton fits rlly well. overall great theory as always dude
If RXQ is meant to be a representation of CC's fear of Spring Bonnie, why does he look like Toy Bonnie instead?
At 9:31 the spring bonnie head kinda looks like Toy Bonnie
@@Comedy-kp5dl The overall build should still look like a Springlock suit, though, shouldn't it?
@@latlequin1the only model we have is from fnaf 2. Unfortunately I doubt Scott even thought on this level or even thought of fnaf 4 when making 2.
@@bioender Could have just redesigned him at some point to make him look more like Springtrap, couldn't he?
@@latlequin1 he could’ve but since fnaf 2 we’ve only seen the shadows in the pixel minigames. No need to remodel the 3d one if he won’t even need it. But thinking on fnaf 3 shadow Bonnie in the minigame he definitely doesn’t look like a toy Bonnie at all.
FFPS had screens that had an Afton lookalike wearing various trench coats and suits, one of which was a mustard coloured suit, hat and business suit. Look at the pictures like 'You can't prove anything.'
One theory that I had and COULD solve Midnight Motorist (In a different way though) is that the "Coming Home" story from the Fazbear Frights books isn't about Susie's family.
Instead, it's about the Afton family but with the story's elements swapped like this:
-Susie = Crying Child
-Samantha = Michael
-Patricia = Michael's mother
-Hayden = William
-Chica = Fredbear (Or Shadow Freddy)
-Gretchen = The Fredbear plush
-The oak tree = That strange amount of dirt on the Midnight Motorist game
Here's a brief plot summary with some of these elements swapped:
"In this tale, we meet the Crying Child, an imaginative and empathetic boy, and his brother Michael, who is intelligent yet serious. A few years prior, the Crying Child died on a family restaurant. His spirit now lingers in their home, unable to communicate directly with his grieving mother and brother. His mother blames herself for the Crying Child’s death through the whole story. Meanwhile, Michael struggles with the emotional fallout, attending therapy but feeling trapped by memories of their last fight over a Fredbear plushie.
Across the story, the Crying Child’s spirit seeks connection with Michael, leading him to convey messages through drawings. These images express Crying Child’s longing for their bond and the urgent need to find the plush before he’s taken away permanently by Fredbear, one of the restaurants' animatronics. He discovers the plushie in a secret room which his father used to make stories about. Michael escapes outside as Fredbear chases after. Michael’s determined search for the plushie culminates in a confrontation with Fredbear, allowing him to finally hand the plushie to his brother. Their heartfelt reunion provides closure as the Crying Child is liberated, symbolically moving towards a place of peace and family".
With this new context, we can see a few similarities between Susie's family from the story and Michael's families from the games and the movie:
-Both families have two kids (Crying Child & Michael; Susie & Samantha).
-The youngest kids died (Susie and Crying Child).
-The eldest kids have to deal with their loss (Michael & Samantha).
-Susie has a doll; Crying Child has a plushie.
-Susie uses drawings to convey messages to her sister; Crying Child (seemingly) uses drawings to convey messages to his brother (On the Survival Logbook).
-Susie's house had a secret room; the Afton house was connected to other locations (Like Circus Baby's Entertainment and rental).
-In the story, Susie's father left because it was "too hard" and he needed space. In the FNAF movie, Michael's father left because he "couldn't handle it".
-In the story, Susie's mom is filled with depression over her daughter's death. In the FNAF movie novelization, Michael's mom is filled with depression over Garrett's disapperance and passes away when Abby was only a few years old.
-In the story, the doll was hidden in a secret room on Susie's house. In Sister Location, the Fredbear plushie can be seen on the secret room that leads to the fake ending during Night 5.
With all of these in mind, I came to the conclusion that the person in the chair during Midnight Motorist is Michael's mom and that the runaway kid is Michael, who escaped through the window to venture into the forest and see his brother for the last time (While being chased by a Fredbear illusion or a shadow animatronic).
“The thing BV saw” can’t be the employee putting on the suit or the “corpse” in the back room. He’s already terrified of the animatronics before FNaF 4; those things may amplify his fear, but they aren’t the original cause.
What I mean is he could have seen something similar to those two events, and Night 4 could be a flashback/dream since we end Night 3 in our house
I was wondering recently if the reason that our MM William isn't purple is because William isn't the one that is literally purple - that's Michael. Granted, later on than MM, but since thice was the game directly after SL and with the post-scoop cut scenes leading to the whole Willtrap/Miketrap confusion, maybe that's why William's sprite isn't purple here. Plus, yeah, he's kind of ambiguously between orange and yellow, but his speech text *is* yellow, which is the complimentary colour to purple, which, along with the car, still connects MM William to the colour purple.
Dunno if this is reasonable or not, but I was pondering it.
how does shadow bonnie have the right foot shape? Id assume his feet are like toy bonnies, being square and having 4 square shapes toes, not 3 round ones
but then again i do see the similarity on the way theres a gap between the feet and toes, unlike the fully flat connected feet of fnaf 1's animatronics or shadow freddy
Shadow freddy
Since the FFPS intro shows cakebear turning into shadow freddy
Charlie's death and agony created shadow freddy
As nightmare says:
"Im your wickness made of flesh"
yes exactly and his toes actually match the footprints
Thanks for the detail it helps support an idea even more
There are even more things connecting Shadow freddy to Charlie.
Nightmarionne replacing Nightmare in the halloween update of fnaf 4,
Nightmare having red eyes, a golden top hat and a golden bowtie, while Lefty is the inverse, having a golden eye, red tophat and bowtie.
Great video! It definitely pushed me to believe Shadow Bonnie made the footprints. I’m still incredibly 50/50 on the mound of dirt, but overall this fits in nicer with our general understanding of the timeline than mine, so I’ll gladly take it unless we get more info.
A rare MM theory that I have no issues with! Impressive work, you brought up a lot of points I have never heard before but make a lot of sense together. I'd be interested to hear you talk more about Shadow Bonnie and come to a more solid conclusion of where it came from under this theory. But otherwise great video!
I think that Miss Afton died in the fall fest fire in 1983, and she is buried in the mound in Midnight Motorist. This theory is from @RGBTombstone. The point of the theory is that in Security Breach, the sticky note room where the mimic made the Afton family copy Ms.Afton was at the end of the table which signifies that she is the leader/head of the family. But then in the last Fall Fest which was in 1983 in Help Wanted, we know that a fire broke out. This theory believes that Ms.Afton died in that fire, which would motivate William to kill Charlie because the theory also states that Henry is what started the fire. This could also give a reason to why Henry made the puppet because he knows how erratic William can be. William could also be jealous at the same time as Henry seems to have a perfect relationship. Also in the farmhouse in Help Wanted a secret easter egg shows up showing “IT’S ME” which we know is related to Henry via the Silver Eyes. The theory also states that she is the reason why the family didn’t get messy since she is the one who stops William from being an abusive parent. That is why when William talks to Mike in Midnight Motorist he is telling William to leave Dave alone. But due to William’s nightmare animatronics Mike started to hate Dave because he ran away which made William start the nightmare project.
With how out-there a lot of Midnight Motorist theories tend to be, I wasn't expecting this one to be so grounded and reasonable. You make a great point about Hide And Seek's suspicious similarities, as well as why BV would even be haunted by Shadow Bonnie in the first place. Very cool!
8:13 The foot shape isn't great evidence as Shadow Bonnie actually has rectangular feet, since his base model, Toy Bonnie, does as well.
"9th layer of ultimate custom night" love that line
I think the Bear feet was from Shadow Freddy and it’s the night William discovers Remnant. Shadow Bonnie is more likely from when the DCI happened.
Something that might add to this: I don't remember where, but someone once pointed out that in the books it's said that Afton was victim to a springlock failure at some point BEFORE he becomes springtrap. What IF the crying child is scared of the Bonnie suit because it once went off and seriously injured his dad? What if William Afton experiencing a minor(?) springlock failure and getting injured but not dying is what CC Saw?
William once survived getting springlocked in the original Silver eyes book! I always found the fact that noone really talked about it strange.
Alright, it’s an interesting theory. But my response would end up being a bit long, cuz I might get flamed for this…
I swear, for some reason after AftonMM got confirmed by Flaf, people are already jumping to the conclusion of BVRunaway so fast. I assume it’s because it’s what was the first idea of AftonMM back in 2017 since AftonMM was intended, but my biggest gripe is just how the narrative and evidence wise that bothers me with BVRunaway.
Personally, I don’t necessarily see why Shadow Bonnie is the reason that BV would be scared of the animatronics in the first place, it’s all associated with Fredbear for a specific reason, but somehow we’re never given a “Nightmare Spring Bonnie” in FNAF 4, ironically we got Plushtrap. I really lean towards Shadow Freddy being the one stalking the Aftons.
And there’s also the identities for each plot devices for vice versa. I seriously don’t know at this point, it’s the lack of appearance since Scott had to tie up loose ends with FFPS. I just want say that I believe in MikeRunaway in my whole life all because I could see him being disobeying William at times, and I really can’t see why he’ll go back bullying his brother after stepping down against William when he was drunk. To me, it feels a bit out of character to “tie up loose ends.” And yep, this is why I believe Mrs. Afton is just the Couch Potato. More of she’s there to be this figure who is Michael’s motivation to go against Afton after the Big Bite, I feel like the TV connection would show how Michael is different from his Dad but how he’s motivated to care like his mother. And what do I think is the mound? BV in the box.
I will say, MrsAftonMound is a cool theory, but I’m still skeptical with BVRunaway.
(At least I agree with “That place” being Fredbear’s)
The Hide & Seek idea is interesting, but I actually want to talk about something about the books since we’re leaning towards these books being within continuity.
The way we’re treating stuff with the books as “narrative parallels” just feels to hypocritical now. And the reason it’s hypocritical is because we had half of the community being die hard book believers to make arguments with theory channels like Game Theory, FuhNaff, and ID’s Fantasy to be incorrect with how to handle the Frights and Tales books and say that “narrative parallels” fit better to have them coexist. My whole opinion on this is that it sounds ridiculous, mainly because it reusing something that people antagonized by rehashing it to “fit better” to make things “simple.”
But If we’re taking that to end the argument, then how would we explain why Matpat and FuhNaff’s parallels didn’t work when we’re reusing the idea to make it easier? If they end up being wrong about how they’re interpreting it all due to Scott’s screw-ups with SB, then this might go to our idea of “narrative parallels” as well.
I know that it doesn’t have to be a 1:1 narrative, but to me, I just feel like these stories are just karma fanfics that tend to exist for some unknown reason.
And I feel like people already jumping into the conclusion of BVRunaway is a little skeptic. Mainly because they’ll say “Oh I believed in this theory long before” when they believed in a different theory that contradicted what’s suggested/assumed in newer content.
So what are my thoughts on AftonMM post-Flaf. I’m still a MikeRunaway believer, and I might wait for the full release of Flaf to come out. But all I can say is the highly enjoyed the video
I do think its weird that Scott named the mysterious purple clone of golden freddy, Shadow Freddy. But he named the black shadow of Toy Bonnie, RWQFSFASXC. I know everyone calls it Shadow Bonnie, but even in FNAF World his name is RXQ, and yet Shadow Freddy stays Shadow Freddy? I've always thought these were 2 different characters that aren't related to one another, sure they both crash your game in FNAF 2, but yet Shadow freddy appears in FNAF 3, and not UCN. And RXQ shows up in UCN with a darkness gimmick... Also! Not to mention the shadow DD is named XOR, and NOT Shadow DD...
Looking at this theory, I think Shadow Freddy might be the one to stalk Dave/CC, because even though you said the costume with the hair is a Spring Bonnie suit, it could very well be a Fredbear suit without the Bowtie, and Shadow Freddy is an exact copy of Fredbear/Golden Freddy... RXQ is a shadow of Toy Bonnie, not Spring Bonnie...
Also! if Dave/CC Was being stalked by Shadow Freddy, this would explain Nightmare from FNAF 4. In the game files Nightmare is called Shadow Freddy, and if FNAF 4 was originally supposed to be Dave/CC as the protagonist, than that would explain why Shadow Freddy is the final boss in FNAF 4, the ultimate Nightmare...
And yes, Nightmare has some UCN Lines such as "I Am Your Weakness Made Of Flesh." Or "The Shadow Fears Me.", which adds to this theory.
Final thought! Nightmare's jumpscare noise has always perplexed me, since Scott definitely didn't plan Sound illusion disks back when he made FNAF 4, so why does Nightmare make this noise? I think the theory that its a low pitched and distorted ambulance siren makes sense, especially since the jumpscare itself is Nightmare gazing into your soul. As if Nightmare stares at Dave/CC as he slowly passes away in the ambulance. (He most likely dies in the hospital since theres the Iv bag and flowers easter eggs)...
haven’t even watched the theory yet but music banger so approved
After watching the video I think It's a pretty solid theory which I agree with. I had been thinking for a long time that the footprints belonged to Shadow Freddy. However, Shadow Bonnie being the one who left the footprints makes more sense. If It was Shadow Freddy he would have left a half of his corpse. Moreover, We have never seen Shadow Bonnie sitting he has always been standing. Great theory like always. I hope It gets the recognizment It deserves.
when in the parts and service minigame in fnaf 4 you can actually see a toy spring bonnie head in the shelf
What if Five Nights at Freddy is an accidental revenge story
I think the car was a rental, like the vampire in the show we see in sister location says.
My only issue with this theory is the fact that there is no evidence that Scott intended Shadow Bonnie to be anything more than an Easter egg character when this game released. Yeah I guess he could be more important that just that, but it seems strange that he thought we could solve it with the information provided at the time. It just doesn’t seem right to me
I like to think Shadow Freddy and RWQFSFASXC were supposed to be foreshadows of Fredbear & Spring Bonnie.
Close but not quite, but thanks for the story info. I'll keep those in mind. I don't know when, but you'll see what I mean sometime in 25
“YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE, IT WAS SAID THAT MIKERUNAWAY WAS MORE LIKELY, NOT BVRUNAWAY. BRING BALANCE TO THE FORCE, NOT LEAVE IT TO THE BVRUNAWAY TSUNAMI!!!”
Maybe he saw Charlie get absorbed by the puppet
I loved this theory! It makes a lot of sense though I wonder why RWQ would specifically go after CC after either seeing an employee going into a spring bonnie suit or the possible dead kid in the back. Wouldn't it attach itself to William or did I miss a detail? Also why was the window broken? It doesn't make much sense for CC to break his window to escape.
Those are my only questions! Overall though VERY good theory! I loved it!
The lore of fuzzy dice leads to many interesting ideas…
Didn't Afton killed Charlie because of Dave's(cc) death? So no way he's the runaway; but the text implies 2 males in the house, the one watching tv, and the runaway. So if this thing is accurate as being Afton after killing Charlie, that means Charlie is the first to die and once again the timeline has been shattered.
I say Dave is already dead in MM, and the child watching tv is s ghost, the runaway is Michael, I've never seen evidence of Afton treating Dave like he's treating the runaway here, so Mike fits better since he "killed" Dave; and the tv child being a ghost or a hallucination doesn't seem too farfetched for this situation as Afton is in not the best of mental states in this particular night.
that's not confirmed and is just a theory. It's becoming more likely that Charlie was killed out of spite for Henry, and CC's death is unrelated
7:40
The sprite has the same colored legs as they do shirt. This means they have horrible fashion sense, or are wearing a blanket on the recliner.
What this have to do with the lore? Well, if those are their legs, then they are quite tall. Maybe even taller than Will. If it is Mike, does that mean Mike is an Adult and CC (Dave) never died, and still goes to Fredbears? Does that mean FNAF 4 is real and takes place AFTER the mini games? After all, if Dave died, wouldn’t he have a gravestone in the end of FNAF 6?
Ir it’s a blanket.
Mrs afton most likely died on a car crash caused by afton while drunk, thats why the mound is close to a road
I think the fact that Dave / CC is knowen for curling up and crying
I don’t think he would run somewhere it doesn’t fully for his fear reaction
Based on other theory’s I think
Mike running or William kidnapping someone based on the NMG story is more possible
But CC is still a valid theory
He also known for avoiding harms way before curling up and crying.
OH BOY!!! TIME TO SOLVE MIDNIGHT MOTORIST
Never heard of these hide and seek parallels the recliner is a smoking gun and I hope seekMM get more discussion
"That place" is which ever fazz location in the books so many people are "drawn too"
Ella(alarm clock?) doll lady who dies in a hvac vent.
Multiple kids.
I havent read books but if I get a good list ill be back
So … what was the consensus for the crying boys and puppet in balloon boy’s air adventure?
Good question tbh. Probably leftover Agony from Charlie's death and the DCI respectively but idk
I'll have to say that this is the most compelling BVRunaway theory I've seen so far. I personally believe in MikeRunaway, specifically the way RyeToast linked Mike to the Old Man Consequences, since it has a more satisfying narrative to me. But this is an insteresting one for sure.
The only thing I would critique is relating to the death order. Presuming (I hate that we have to presume) that the Help Wanted 2 graves were telling us the death order (with Charlie last), then, by your theory, the MCI would've happenned before BV/Dave's death, which I think we all agree that it was still around 1983 most likely. But that's mostly of my critique to your theory (I really hate the HW2 graves)
Nah the HW2 graves can't be death order because we have tons of evidence across all continuities that Charlotte died first, so I think the death order we had before HW2 is still the case. Thanks for commenting!
i will never stop overthinking
This theory could mean one thing, Shadow Bonnie (Aka. Eleanor) borned not from the MCI but Afton's first victim.
Even tho your theory isn't quite true.
I don't agree with this, but i do think it's a pretty good Theory
its just not a recliner couch i have one i can most certainly its a normal one
Imma sub. Gotta support a brother 🤙
thanks so much!
Hi
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My evidence against BVrunaway is:
1. Charlie died on Halloween 1982 in TSE (backed up by the Fnaf 4 halloween update having Nightmarionne replace Nightmare, meaning the puppet is linked to Halloween), but her grave (with an update birthday of 1980, instead of the established 1978) says she died in 1983, and HW2 uses the SL 1983 code to get the Puppet Doll.
2. BV dies in Summer 1983. BV dies BEFORE Charlie, based on the new info.
3. Shadow Freddy (Nightmare is Shadow Freddy in the files. Meaning Nightmare is short forb"Nightmare Shadow Freddy") is made from "William's wickedness" and takes on the form of Golden Freddy Specifically. And Shadow Bonnie off Toy Bonnie. Makes more sense if they're created from the MCI and DCI, respectively. Incidents that are clear instances of William's wickedness on full display.
4. Shadow Bonnie DOESN'T have the classic styled 3 toes like in MM.
So how does Shadow Freddy exist BEFORE "William's Wickedness made into flesh" was created, and happen to BV after Charlie's death, when Charlie died AFTER BV??
Only thing against MikeRunaway to me is Couch person's identity.
We don't know what part of 1983 BV died, but fall is the most likely.
Personally, I don't think this theory is correct. Not because it's poorly crafted, but I find it rather unlikely for several reasons:
1. According to this theory, why does Mike start treating his brother badly in FNAF 4? This behavior does not seem to have a logical explanation following this interpretation.
2. If the minigame takes place before the events of FNAF 4, then neither Freddy's nor Fredbear's should have existed yet. This creates a time discrepancy that is difficult to justify.
3. The Crying Child seems to be more related to Shadow Freddy, He was bitten by Fredbear, who is a bear, and then we talk about agony, Nightmare = Shadow Freddy. These elements seem to point more in that direction.
4. The idea that the 'Run Away Kid' is the Crying Child doesn't hold up for several reasons: We never see William berate the Crying Child. Also, as I said before, Mike mistreats the Crying Child in FNAF 4, and only seems to regret it at the end, not before. Furthermore, it is hardly credible that such a small child could break a window.
So, even if the theory is well structured, it seems decidedly unlikely to me
I agree about Shadow Freddy and the theory being a bit unlikely, but I disagree with some of the other points you brought up.
First off, we know Fredbear's opened in 1979 or something around that and Freddy's in '83. MM does not rely on Freddy's for the story in this theory, but it does need Fredbear's.
And yes, CCRunaway might seem pretty unlikely as well but with the evidence I brought up I personally believe it, at least for now.
Thanks for the feedback!
honestly I don't take the springbonnie topper as a lore revelation. Because it's an incomplete noncanon game, doesn't matter what the unused content say either, we don't use them to solve Security Breach or the other games so why here. If we're using information from an unfinished noncanon spinoff than why aren't we doing the same for Freddy in Space or Fury's Rage or something? At least there's more reason to use them because unlike the FLAF they're finished with no reason for anything in them to change. We don't know if the topper will still be in FLAF at launch they can and will change literally anything within now and than. Even than, it's still noncanon
Thank you! Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one pointing out how FLAF isn't a mainline game and isn't made by Scott. It's a spinoff game made by a completely different studio! It's much more likely, in my opinion, that the topper and such is an easter egg they threw in from a popular theory that was seen online.
Like, this is such a weird catch-22 for Scott to be in, as well. If he requests that they remove the topper because it's confusing the fanbase about a "solvable" minigame then AftonMM is immediately not true to the community and confirms it's not Afton. But if he says nothing about it, the community will take his silence as fact even if that's not his intention.
Fun theory, except it ignores other evidence that Scott has presented. Such as William cares about Dave immensely doesn't track with how the Yellow Guy acts, Scott has always depicted William Afton as purple, the minigame therefore has no thematic relevance to its pair in Fruity Maze, Michael saying to leave the individual alone because they had a rough day doesn't track with how Michael acts (Mainly that if Dave had a rough day, it'd have been because of Michael bullying him), and the biggest issue (For me personally) is that Five Laps at Freddy's isn't a game made by Scott. It's not a mainline game. Scott, from what I've heard, has very little to do with that project. So who's to say that the Midnight Motorist car isn't just the devs of that game taking a popular theory from the internet and tossing it into their game as an easter egg?
This isn't Kingdom Hearts where every single lore drop on every single swallow with a smart phone strapped to its face is definitely canon. KH is handled exclusively by Tetsuya Nomura. FNAF is no longer handled exclusively by Scott Cawthon. Unless Scott himself releases something that says "Oh this bit of lore that these devs dropped for you outside of main game timeline is legit" or something to that affect, I'm not going to count it as evidence and I'm certainly not going to be convinced. Steel Wool is an obvious exception to the "Scott words or bust" rule as he is (After the fun of Security Breach) heavily involved in the main games and passed the torch onto Steel Wool.
The Dave solution is the biggest screech of "the simplest answer is usually the right one." Seems way more likely that, instead of trying to tell some weird deep lore about the Afton's in no way that really connects to the Afton family, it's following the theme of the other major minigames in Pizzeria Simulator, who each tell the story of one of the children who loses their life: Charlie with Security Puppet. Susie with Fruity Maze. And (my own theory on which kid here) Cassidy with Midnight Motorist. Those would be the 3 biggest "deaths" caused by William. Charlie because "wound first inflicted on me," Susie because "I was the first, I have seen everything," and Cassidy because "the one you should not have killed."
William does NOT care about Dave or any of his kids, that's a huge misconception.
As for the rest, I think AftonMM is much more likely and I think discrediting FLAF is a bit strange.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE THEORY IF IT JUST HAS ANOTHER DAMN 'SOLVED!' TITLE AND THUMBNAIL IN GREEN TEXT.
STOP SPAMMING THIS STYLE. YOU JUST WANT VIEWS.
I'm sorry if you think I'm clickbaiting you - I made a post about this and I explain it there but essentially the reason I formulate the video like this is because it's the only way I can show you guys my theory, and I want more people to be able to see it.
I do my best to make different thumbnails, but it doesn't work. I hope you understand
@@WitheredCircle Well now I feel bad xd. Yeah I guess if you're passionate about a theory then you should do what you can to share it. I didn't think of it like that.
@@longfishy thanks for understanding man, and it's ok, I get it.
I don't have malicious intents or anything I just want more people to see my content, that's all.
yes i like this theory buttttttt when does C.C ever see shadow bonnie? or i mean yes he could have but when?
6h ago
15 seconds only 1 view bro fell off- (jk)
5 hours in and its almost equal in views to subscribers
Wrong
Why do you think so? It helps to give me your opinion and I can learn what you think is right, so I can use that knowledge in the future.
@@WitheredCircle sorry i was high when i wrote that
What makes me upset about all of this if it is true is that it makes william have no motive to murder charlie and the other kids. He is just a murderer for science.
At least we have more of a definitive order of events of who died.
He's a murderer for the hell of it at first, but after he learns about possession, he goes really deep into the mad scientist stuff, at least imo
Hi twitter oomfie loved this vid nice job 😝😝😝
thanks lol