Wheels 265 mm wide have a theoretical diameter 9 mm smaller than those 275 mm wide. This represents a difference of 1.2%, which can have an impact on vehicle behavior, particularly when ABS or ESP are engaged, as the two wheels on the same axle no longer rotate at the same speed in a straight line. This fault will also distort the measurement of vehicle speed, which is normally based on the speed of rotation at the gearbox output.
This was really good video Bjorn! I'm looking at buying an X, and was curious how efficiency worked with speed vs. my existing 2018 Model 3 LR. I am planning some cross country roadtrips (USA) so this is important to me.
It's seems obvious why "range test" videos are not so popular anymore. There is no more stress, at least in Norway, if I'm going to make it to my destination as there is a really good charging network, which gives us comfort of travel with EV's. 🎉
Range is still important to some, especially those who haven’t adopted and are stressed if they don’t have tons of range. U.S. has a long ways to go in terms of expanding the network to remote areas and national parks.
I've had the 275 rear tires put on the 265 front position several times by a tire shop. The difference is only 1 cm, so they don't necessarily notice easily. I check every time I have it done. lol You want to have them right though because the too-wide ones in teh front can rub against the suspension knuckle when turning sharply
I would not buy a nio over a Tesla... I checked them out in Amsterdam, I don't find the interior to be that great and the software either. The battery swap is totally useless to me on a daily basis. Also it's not a fair comparison to compare an old platform from 2015, it's easy to surpass it in 10 years.. or not for range, power etc. and those doors are the coolest. Massage seats are useless, I never get a massage in real life, I just don't enjoy it, much prefer a jacuzzi. I don't tow anything, I don't need 3rd row, I'd go with the 5 seat config so literally none of the arguments for the nio apply. But I'll probably get worse software, no FSD no nothing. To each their own, but I'd still stick with the old Tesla. Pretty sure soon they'll make a new one anyway...
Such a shame what they did with the X. It's the interface which stopped me replacing my 2017 X. Still love that car. I won't replace my 2021 M3P either for the same reason.
I agree, that's why I love and keeping my 2015 Model S. In the future, I'm considering a Mercedes EQS SUV. Seems to have almost everything my S has except the frunk. But it'll be more quiet and luxurious, if not pretty!
@@joemcdonough7509 Sad isn't it. The modern Teslas are still great cars but the interface between the car and the driver is a complete clown show and new cars have way more features. I have been wondering about the Chinese cars myself. The Xpeng G9 looks kind of nice and the NIO battery swap is somewhat interestng too.
Bjorn could you say something to ABRP team so they update their app database like more often? there is very poor and old DB for chargers in Ukraine for now. why they can't just sync it with plugshare db? I wrote them a lot but no any answer yet. thank you for answering and talk to you later
About having to turn the streaing wheel: with the latest update I have had, on highways I don't need to pull on the steeringwheel anymore but this may be because i have enhanced AP. The wiper menu came after the complaints of many ppl about the wipers. And now ppl complain that the menu is there... I assume it will go away with the next updates (I heard they found an algorithm for detecting the rain properly)
@@bjornnyland press the steering wheel knob and the washer menu goes away and you can change the volume faster instead of waiting for the wiper menu to go away on its own.
I did the same as you a couple of times before i realized that if you have to, just push the button once to confirm wiper settings and it goes away right away. As for AP nag, i believe this is actually caused a lot by you bjørn. The recent update, and especially HW4 have been updated to see your eyes and hands on the wheel and requires significantly less nudging on the wheel. The problem is your camera can't confirm anything, and thats why. I can understand why you block it though, as it will go nuts since you use phones, cameras and what not, which it's specifically programmed to react and ban AP usage from. However, i think you should point out this, instead of blaming tesla for "significant nagging" that you are seemingly actually the cause of. As for the rest, stalks, Phantom breaking and all that, i totally agree with you! @@bjornnyland
@@bjornnyland IMO you really piled on here with the UI complaints. That is fine, it is good to have the whole list. The need to change volume right after windshield wipe is not a problem for me, but might be for someone else. The thing that bothers me the most is lack of the selectable left and right displays in the new S/X instrument cluster. I loved them in my 2015 Model S. Without them, I would rather just have the single screen like the 3/Y.
I have noted the discrepancy in displayed speed a day after collecting my Model X. This sucks. I used to be pretty happy in Model Y knowing that the car did not lie to me about its speed. Is there a way to "fix" it?
M3 with stocks, I have CT reservatkon from 2020 though plan on buying MX instead (maybe making M3 a robotaxi) and might add 3rd party stocks behind wheel
I am buying my first ev now, have full blown purchase-panic. Should I go for the Kia Tank (EV9) for space, the i5 M60 for ride quality or Skoda because spending more is throwing money down the drain??
I drove the original X today. It was actually kind of nice with stalks, viper controls, proper blinkerstalks and everything. I wonder if it also had a real rain sensor?
It’s getting old and badly needs a refresh to get back to the new standard for luxury SUVs. By the time Tesla gets round to that there will be a host of new electric 7 seaters on the market including the new electric LR Discovery6 in 2025/26
I think Tesla doesn't care to much about the luxury segment anymore, there are enough EV in that segment, look at mercedes they reported 50% less revenue year over year. Nobody needs expensive EVs anymore... ppl. need cars < 40.000€ not 100k+
That's why I still have the Yoke in my S Plaid. You have a perfect/comfortable place (or several actually) to rest your hand when AP is engaged! No nagging ever.
Great test and info on consumption. Comments on wipers, stalks etc sounds a bit like ranting - everything was better in the old days, not seriously considering whether the changes are good or bad.
Maybe he did consider it, and has come to a conclusion? (Hint: he did. Many videos about the subject from him already) Personally I dont mind them to much, but if I had to chose, I would take the stalk option.
the audi has bigger wheels and 7 degrees colder, so after some years they can make if faily efficient for a SUV in that shape. Model X is just outdated sorry...
The best parts are no parts does not apply when taking away the ability to scroll through functions and see them on the dashboard. Where's the energy /regen indicator?
Yep, beloved NIO is at an unreal low price, as they lose 30-50.000 euros for each car sold... So your massage chair and other features come at the Chinese people's expense... 2 billion dollars lost last year? Nice business! Nice cars! Seems to continue so... And Audi... the same... So...
But it comes with other problems, like whether the car can even function in case of a geopolitical event? Will the company exist in 3 years (hello Fisker)?
They definitely ruined the model x. No ultrasonic which means No automatic doors no rain sensor tesla vision no indicator stalk no gear stalk vegan steering wheel bad instrument panel horizontal screen and ugly new front bumper and no chrome. So much cost cutting and it still is that expensive
It's a lot better without the stalks. It still amazes me that they didn't remove the gear stalk earlier. I'm driving a TMYP loaner now because my S Plaid is in service, and it makes NO sense to have a stalk for gear shift.
juniper will destroy the competition. it will show the full power of tesla again. model x is a superb car, but Y is the core of the company. not 3, not s, Y.
@@Tschacki_Quacki it's my prediction based on the fact that people who are not really interested in cars just want something familiar. I believe this is one reason why the model Y sold so well, it is simple and does the job well. The model 3 is more of an enthusiast car IMO because it is more sporty and less practical although it hovers around similar price to model Y. It is just my assumptions. Anyway I want them so bad to not remove the stalks on everything. If they move back in the right direction I might buy one some day
It doesn't drive itself in Europe. And I like to drive myself, so not buying a car w/o stalks. I have a Model Y now and will consider the refreshed model coming soon. No stalks will be a deal breaker.
@@fr3238 As it was for me when I wanted to replace my X with a new one and for when I replace my M3P. Still wondering if I should get the Y before they ruin it.
Diagonally staggered wheel setup for the win! lol
Perfect for drifting 🤣
Wheels 265 mm wide have a theoretical diameter 9 mm smaller than those 275 mm wide. This represents a difference of 1.2%, which can have an impact on vehicle behavior, particularly when ABS or ESP are engaged, as the two wheels on the same axle no longer rotate at the same speed in a straight line. This fault will also distort the measurement of vehicle speed, which is normally based on the speed of rotation at the gearbox output.
This was really good video Bjorn! I'm looking at buying an X, and was curious how efficiency worked with speed vs. my existing 2018 Model 3 LR. I am planning some cross country roadtrips (USA) so this is important to me.
Not seen one of these for ages. Love the doors!
Love the quality of those third row seats when he opens the boot. Good old Tesla...
It's seems obvious why "range test" videos are not so popular anymore. There is no more stress, at least in Norway, if I'm going to make it to my destination as there is a really good charging network, which gives us comfort of travel with EV's. 🎉
Range anxiety is still a thing in my country, half of it is still a desert in terms of chargers...
Range is still important to some, especially those who haven’t adopted and are stressed if they don’t have tons of range. U.S. has a long ways to go in terms of expanding the network to remote areas and national parks.
@@bm2085 which country if can ask?
Indeed, in NW Europe this has become a complete non-issue.
I've had the 275 rear tires put on the 265 front position several times by a tire shop. The difference is only 1 cm, so they don't necessarily notice easily. I check every time I have it done. lol
You want to have them right though because the too-wide ones in teh front can rub against the suspension knuckle when turning sharply
I use voice-command for "show me energy" than "show me navigation" to switch.
Please livestream again! 🙏
Super bummed about no more livestream :(
Remember the old Days in Millenium Falcon 😂
And also Optimus Prime, Bjørn's Model X
Tesla service still as brilliant as ever 😂
I love the term "Poor Man" in relation to a Model X 🤣
I would not buy a nio over a Tesla... I checked them out in Amsterdam, I don't find the interior to be that great and the software either. The battery swap is totally useless to me on a daily basis. Also it's not a fair comparison to compare an old platform from 2015, it's easy to surpass it in 10 years.. or not for range, power etc. and those doors are the coolest. Massage seats are useless, I never get a massage in real life, I just don't enjoy it, much prefer a jacuzzi. I don't tow anything, I don't need 3rd row, I'd go with the 5 seat config so literally none of the arguments for the nio apply. But I'll probably get worse software, no FSD no nothing. To each their own, but I'd still stick with the old Tesla. Pretty sure soon they'll make a new one anyway...
I remember watching you camping in your model X! Where is that car now?
Sold long time ago and should be on long term rent somewhere near Oslo.
Audi for win! Bjorn thank for Your content!!!! Absolutely agree with about new steering wheel and other new Tesla "feachers".
Such a shame what they did with the X. It's the interface which stopped me replacing my 2017 X. Still love that car. I won't replace my 2021 M3P either for the same reason.
I agree, that's why I love and keeping my 2015 Model S. In the future, I'm considering a Mercedes EQS SUV. Seems to have almost everything my S has except the frunk. But it'll be more quiet and luxurious, if not pretty!
@@joemcdonough7509 Sad isn't it. The modern Teslas are still great cars but the interface between the car and the driver is a complete clown show and new cars have way more features. I have been wondering about the Chinese cars myself. The Xpeng G9 looks kind of nice and the NIO battery swap is somewhat interestng too.
@@notverygoodguy The NIO EV's and their swap tech is super cool. Too bad I am in the US and we'll NEVER see that land here.
After a short period of getting used to it, I like the new M3 much better
@@Zedus-rl9hp Better than what?
For sure, you can get aftermarket stalks. Must have.
Bjorn could you say something to ABRP team so they update their app database like more often? there is very poor and old DB for chargers in Ukraine for now. why they can't just sync it with plugshare db? I wrote them a lot but no any answer yet. thank you for answering and talk to you later
About having to turn the streaing wheel: with the latest update I have had,
on highways I don't need to pull on the steeringwheel anymore but this may be because
i have enhanced AP.
The wiper menu came after the complaints of many ppl about the wipers. And now ppl complain that
the menu is there... I assume it will go away with the next updates (I heard they found an algorithm for detecting the rain properly)
Interesting, your feedback on wiper and cruise control. Not much progress in this region. 😐.
Mounting tires wrong is about the service level one would expect from Tesla. Pretty sure operating the the car in this configuration is illegal.
Guess you cry a lot .
Tyres..reminds me: "This airplane is designed by clowns, who in turn are supervised by monkeys" 😂
Please test Valdemar”s X75D...
I'm actually more curious how the long range RDW Model Y and Model 3 perform on the 1000km test.
10:06 Why do you have to change the volume right after you washed the windshield? Imo, brillant use of software and not too many buttons
Why not?
@@bjornnyland press the steering wheel knob and the washer menu goes away and you can change the volume faster instead of waiting for the wiper menu to go away on its own.
I did the same as you a couple of times before i realized that if you have to, just push the button once to confirm wiper settings and it goes away right away.
As for AP nag, i believe this is actually caused a lot by you bjørn. The recent update, and especially HW4 have been updated to see your eyes and hands on the wheel and requires significantly less nudging on the wheel. The problem is your camera can't confirm anything, and thats why. I can understand why you block it though, as it will go nuts since you use phones, cameras and what not, which it's specifically programmed to react and ban AP usage from. However, i think you should point out this, instead of blaming tesla for "significant nagging" that you are seemingly actually the cause of. As for the rest, stalks, Phantom breaking and all that, i totally agree with you! @@bjornnyland
@@bjornnyland IMO you really piled on here with the UI complaints. That is fine, it is good to have the whole list. The need to change volume right after windshield wipe is not a problem for me, but might be for someone else.
The thing that bothers me the most is lack of the selectable left and right displays in the new S/X instrument cluster. I loved them in my 2015 Model S. Without them, I would rather just have the single screen like the 3/Y.
Can you do a Peugeot e-5008 test? And for giggles, a Dacia Spring? 😁
Everything that matters the most is still in the model x which is Range, comfort, audio system, reliability and class leading software.
I have noted the discrepancy in displayed speed a day after collecting my Model X. This sucks. I used to be pretty happy in Model Y knowing that the car did not lie to me about its speed. Is there a way to "fix" it?
Dearest Bjørn, may i have your honest view on the id.software versus the Tesla infotainment software, preferrably in the Bodø-dialect.
Hello is there a way to contact you for Product Collaboration Proposal ?
M3 with stocks, I have CT reservatkon from 2020 though plan on buying MX instead (maybe making M3 a robotaxi) and might add 3rd party stocks behind wheel
Poor man's plaid.... Brutal
So, sorry if I missed, but did you correct the wheel placement prior to testing range?
Love the doors.
In the UK it's illegal to drive with diff tyre sizes on the same axle. 😊
I thought those doors were a joke before I actually bought an X. I love them now although you do have to be conscious of where you are opening them.
I think gull wing doors are cool, they very much appeal to my inner child too 😅
@@notverygoodguy The doors prevent carrying anything on the roof.
@@fr3238 Yes they do but there is a hell of a lot of room inside. I've had five people and their cross country skis in it :)
Probably illegal in pretty much all of the EU zone as well? And most likely Norway. They done messed up.
Incorrect Raven Wheel size Rear in your spreadsheet, it’s 275, not 255.
Baby Shark!!! Legend!! :)
I am buying my first ev now, have full blown purchase-panic. Should I go for the Kia Tank (EV9) for space, the i5 M60 for ride quality or Skoda because spending more is throwing money down the drain??
Finally a Tesla Model X test!
You wheel list for the new X is wrong 😅
I drove the original X today. It was actually kind of nice with stalks, viper controls, proper blinkerstalks and everything. I wonder if it also had a real rain sensor?
Nice
How about comparing a 5 year old Neo vs. a 5 year old Tesla?
It’s getting old and badly needs a refresh to get back to the new standard for luxury SUVs. By the time Tesla gets round to that there will be a host of new electric 7 seaters on the market including the new electric LR Discovery6 in 2025/26
I think Tesla doesn't care to much about the luxury segment anymore, there are enough EV in that segment, look at mercedes they reported 50% less revenue year over year. Nobody needs expensive EVs anymore... ppl. need cars < 40.000€ not 100k+
@@kenion2166 people needs cheaper car, 20k€ or less for the cities.
But Nio no one is buying in europe… great cars but too expensive… only 1000 registrations in all Europe in 2024… thats nothing
Not staggered, but skewed!
Can you get new Tesla Model X with Falcon wings?
keep the range tests up!
That's why I still have the Yoke in my S Plaid. You have a perfect/comfortable place (or several actually) to rest your hand when AP is engaged! No nagging ever.
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Great test and info on consumption.
Comments on wipers, stalks etc sounds a bit like ranting - everything was better in the old days, not seriously considering whether the changes are good or bad.
No, he's right. In no universe is a control that moves around better than one that stays in one place.
removing the stalks is an objectively bad change
Maybe he did consider it, and has come to a conclusion? (Hint: he did. Many videos about the subject from him already)
Personally I dont mind them to much, but if I had to chose, I would take the stalk option.
No Christmas card from Elon this year Bjørn.
It's not like he sent any Christmas cards to be before...
Baby Shark do do do do... Oh my god, this is all parents all around the world favorite song!
Shiiiit marn!😅
Somebody didn't do its job properly when changing wheels.... 😆
Way overpriced for what you get.
Exactly
Like all new cars
@@odra873Not "all" cars, just most. Get your money up 😂
People who buy Tesla's a) have way too much money b) doesn't really understand money
@@abbcc555 model 3 and Y make a lot of sense moneywise, just not X and S
Sheetbox still…
Who else here used to be a member of the Phantom Wiper Club?
Baby shark🤣🤣🤣
Tesla is losing Bjorn
What did you mean?
Tesla is losing Bjørn
Or...
Tesla is losing, Bjørn
@@bjornnyland lol yep, both.
These staggered tires....... nope...swap the right side tires for the 1000 km challenge
20" X LR vs 21" SQ6, SQ6 more efficient, 800v etc… for me SQ6 all day long
the audi has bigger wheels and 7 degrees colder, so after some years they can make if faily efficient for a SUV in that shape. Model X is just outdated sorry...
The Audi is a lot smaller.
The best parts are no parts does not apply when taking away the ability to scroll through functions and see them on the dashboard. Where's the energy /regen indicator?
Did tesla ruined it or EU laws?
Yep, beloved NIO is at an unreal low price, as they lose 30-50.000 euros for each car sold... So your massage chair and other features come at the Chinese people's expense... 2 billion dollars lost last year? Nice business! Nice cars! Seems to continue so...
And Audi... the same...
So...
NIO or xpeng is much better for this Price
But it comes with other problems, like whether the car can even function in case of a geopolitical event? Will the company exist in 3 years (hello Fisker)?
It makes no sense this car has a display behind the steering wheel when the 3 and Y have theirs removed. Pick a strategy and stand by it.
This car cost way more so they add/keep more stuff
Strategy is dictated by what customers tolerate.
Cost saving
They definitely ruined the model x. No ultrasonic which means No automatic doors no rain sensor tesla vision no indicator stalk no gear stalk vegan steering wheel bad instrument panel horizontal screen and ugly new front bumper and no chrome. So much cost cutting and it still is that expensive
It's a lot better without the stalks. It still amazes me that they didn't remove the gear stalk earlier. I'm driving a TMYP loaner now because my S Plaid is in service, and it makes NO sense to have a stalk for gear shift.
Imagine if say VW brought this car out today...how people would laugh and say how little they know about good EV design, not to mention poor quality
Charging speed and efficiency is more important than range.
juniper will destroy the competition. it will show the full power of tesla again. model x is a superb car, but Y is the core of the company. not 3, not s, Y.
Software still crap for Europe
they will remove the stalks for that too and then it will be RIP. I don't think all moms around the world can drive without stalks
X and S needs serious makeover. Good efficiency is no longer going to make up for mediocre car.
@@HanYou2 Why do you think so? The Model 3 without stalks is selling just fine.
@@Tschacki_Quacki it's my prediction based on the fact that people who are not really interested in cars just want something familiar. I believe this is one reason why the model Y sold so well, it is simple and does the job well. The model 3 is more of an enthusiast car IMO because it is more sporty and less practical although it hovers around similar price to model Y. It is just my assumptions. Anyway I want them so bad to not remove the stalks on everything. If they move back in the right direction I might buy one some day
Nio el 8, just too ugly 😮💨🙈
Nio el8 ugly? Which car do you like? Pontiak aztek maybe?
Who need stocks, when the car drive it self ??
exactly. Is TB this conservativ ?? I would love this few buttons and I am 74 years.
Yeah, it is fantastic a driving around roundabouts.
It doesn't drive itself in Europe. And I like to drive myself, so not buying a car w/o stalks. I have a Model Y now and will consider the refreshed model coming soon. No stalks will be a deal breaker.
@@fr3238 As it was for me when I wanted to replace my X with a new one and for when I replace my M3P. Still wondering if I should get the Y before they ruin it.
You should test it in its birth continent. Most of your disappointment would be gone
Are you suggesting Tesla should only sell in the US?
Designed for sunny California 🤣
Use Sexy Buttons to.make Tesla great again. acw - always clean wipera
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