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I get where he's coming from. Lol It can suck fighting in only 6* lobbies, but the alternative is shitting on worse players all day, no matter how you put it.
I have 400 ish days (9 to 10 thousand hours) on console Hunt, and I can confirm that there's a difference between being good/experienced and being a sweat. I love the game, but that doesn't mean I study all the compounds looking for the perfect frag throw angle into a building to hit every corner. It 100% does mean I can't be placed against 3 or 4 star players and expect them to have a good time, though. There's too much difference in performance, and it's just not fair for them. But man does it kill me to be placed against people with KD averages twice or three times as high as mine.
Would love to see Ursa Mortis come back in vanilla hunt. Best thoughts to reimplement her would be having a rare chance (probably under 5%) for a meathead spawn to instead be Ursa, and the compound that she spawns in should have the thorned brambles.
Finding a smooth way to onboard new players is really important for this game’s longevity. The tutorial making no mention of bullet penetration is such a blunder lol. Great discussion all around
As a Hunt fan, this roundtable episode rocks. Thank you for putting this together. Love hearing different opinions on this game. I prefer the old school hunt but I love to hear about others perception and experience with 1896. Great job all and Hunters Lodge for this!
The comment about still water. I randomly decided to go to the top of the roof of the main house one match. I defended an attacking trio from there with one partner using a beetle just to harass em. They got caught in the cornfield. From the roof they had no cover. Besides the one tree.
When y'all were talking about the Maynard and its place in the gun sandbox, I feel it was overlooked that when you prestige (or are brand new), its the only sniper you have available to you from the beginning. All the others need to be unlocked. It's "place" is being the defacto sniper option.
It's funny you bring that up, I've actually brought that point up to plenty of people 😂 I thought I remembered mentioning that in this cast but my memory is probably fuzzy. It is definitely helpful for those on the prestige grind.
I dont get where this mentality where you absolutely have to wipe the server, you absolutely have to have these determinate fights came from. I remember when the game was not about having to get the most kills but ultimately surviving and extracting with your bounty and your buddies. I remember matches where I had no lanterns to burn a body, and I risk getting killed if I went for a loot. I had to make the decision to run off and get the bounty, and risk having to fight them again later, or stay determined to see the stalemate out and let a third party take the bounty. I remember having to negotiate with other players to break stalemate. I remember having a no mans land scenario, and in the quiet talking to my team about our next moves, to guage the risk and rewards. I can kill a player, and use the time it takes for them to get the revive to escape with the bounty, and HOPE they didnt bring a stamina shot. Or I kill one of their friends. I can decide to push the other two with my team and try to beat them with numerical superiority when they have a positional advantage, or i can be rewarded for my perpetration and use the firebomb I brought. Yeah, it sucks in most fights, but I was rewarded for my risk to bring one for deciding to bring it over a vitality or frag. My buddy is down, my third player can provide covering fire on a 3 v 1 while I do a cheeky revive. etc. There use to be complexity, risk and reward to this game. Its gone now.
@@andrewdopple6946 I think a lot of people still have the survivor's mentality (me included). I have over 200k bucks and I still prioritize extracting with the bounty rather than killing everyone because that's what I feel "winning" a Hunt match is about.
@@limonero8757 Nah you might be the type that enjoys a "win" where you extract with bounty and dont fight anyone but to people like me and my friends thats so lame and boring we want ALL THE SMOKE. I play Hunt for the pvp not the pve so I NEED to extract with at least 3 or 4 kills otherwise it feels like such a lackluster and uneventful match.
@Hextin this play style screws players who farm clues and actually kill banish and get tokens who do all the work make noise have to wait and defend and then have to survive with a target on their back for you to chase. Fair enough but maybe remove the bounty holder target so you have to work harder to find and kill them
@@Hextin And that's completely fine. I enjoy some calmer matches in which I just do a clean sweep and that's it, but I also get exteremely bored if every single match is just PvE.
@@Hextin Nobody is keeping you from doing that, that play style just use to have the drawback of being more punishing if you die. That was until people were crying because they didn't like having to face a third party missing bats. Now if you have revive bolts resilience, and recovery shots, you can effectively have your team play cowboy apex. I'm also someone who enjoys the gunfights, its just i also miss the feeling of having to weigh risks and rewards.
As well as Ursa Mortis I hope they keep the shredder in some form too, maybe not in the actual game... But at least in the shooting range so we can play around with it.
11min in and I already loving this. Was geeking out when Hexen mentioned his least favorite cause it was my favorite one lol. Found myself audibly talking along with you guys! Keep it going ✊🏻
Also anyone noticed there are missing skins, from the trailer to murder circus? at the "Post Malone's Murder Circus Trailer" on 0:31 there is converions skin wich I didn't see in the game at all and sniper lady 1:18 on trailer, she have a face ot thife lady we got in shop but everythink else is missing
with apertures i think they are pretty balanced, just need more weapons with them, the thing is that you have to learn to play with apertures, just by pressing one button you can have basic weapon and by pressing it you have scope at once that as far is am aware have similar zoom to marksman variant, for sure its more than deadeye, I think it is op enought. Im playin alot lebel aperture and mako aperture and I think its pretty op, even on ranger now, when I go with ranger I always take aperture variant, you just have to learn to use it. Btw I'm 5 star almost 2000h and have been with hunt since the beggining of early acces. and 6 stars are too sweaty :P
@@Shaggy-g4w I've tried apertures so many times and I feel like I could count the pores on someone's face most of the time lol there are specific unique angles where the aperture is awesome but I suppose it's just too much at most ranges I fight in. Probably takes more getting used to. Thanks for your perspective!
Aw man, would have loved to participate in this podcast (I'm 6*, almost hitting 5k hours and welp un-original Mosin+Upper main although I use almost everything) Hellborn being a menace is wild, 6* usually wipe it in about 30 to 45 seconds max 😂 Me and my team even take it on when it's already red and being camped because of how laughably easy it is to wreck fire boy ! The Uppercut nerfs are slightly unwarranted indeed, the main reason it might have a high pick/ win rate doesn't come from how good is the gun but how good are the players using it.
Idk if yall remember them saying in the trailer for this event but they definitely hinted that they did some shooting range changes and i was bummed when nothing changed lol i wanted some cool moving targets etc
@@caviestcaveman8691 bahaha I think they were just poking fun at the shooting gallery in the circus. Maybe after the event is over they'll add some shooting gallery elements to the shooting range.
We have gotten a trait number inflation and currently have way too many traits that are never picked and a lot of them should be combined, either thematically or by functions (I know they did this a while back, but in my opinion not nearly enough): Poacher and Vigilant, Assailant and Blade Seer (or Assailant and Martialist; Vigilant with Blade Seer), Hundred Hands and Bolt Trower, Adrenalin and Determination, Horn Skin and Bulwark Mithridatist and Serpent Wispersmith and Silent Killer Scopesmith and Steady Aim a few can also get some buffs to make them more useful and more enticing to pick: Vigore should get a buff to be able to deal with the remaining status effects (faster poison recovery, and stopping bleeding in stages) Ghoul can also give a small amount of stamina back Iron eye can get the gradually lessening sway for all iron sighted guns (Poison) Pain Sense should keep the last events bonuses (see low stamina people) decoy supply, literally nobody uses it, and they should just roll it into the game by default. Dauntless can be as well (I always forget that I bring it and it is very situational) Also had this idea for a slight boost to Dauntless a while back (give it an active ability to cancel already lit throwables if the situation changes and you need to abort that lit dynamite bundle) On top of all that, we should get a minor upgrade point cost reduction across the board - Witnes, Pitcher, Gator Legs, Beastface, Pain Sense, Vulture, Doctor, Fanning, Frontiersman, Greyhound, Conduit, Determination, Packmule, Quartermaster, Serpent, Fast Fingers, Levering should all cost 1 point less
I pretty much agree with you, but dauntless is so freaking good if you remember you have it. I actually always bring it since the level buff in prestige.
No MMR would be a nightmare for people who are inexperienced with the game and are still trying to learn. If my friends are 1 star and we get wiped by 6 star players in every game then they’re more likely to give up because they’d be making no progress on any of their hunters or gaining any experience.
It's important to remember that the smallest populations of players in the game range from 4-6 star, not 1-3. So you wouldn't be finding six star players every game. But yes I agree it could be a disaster for new player integration.
Personally... I wish they would add the supply cache into the regular game when there's no event, being able to get the restoration and the master clue is really nice. The game just doesn't feel as good without it being there.
as a player of about 2600 hours going from console to pc over the span of like 6 years now i feel like my personal fav event was the inferno, introducing the fire map into the rotation made it so exciting and the introduction of rotjaw was great and was probably the last time i felt hunt was at its peak, not saying that the rebrand of hunt didnt have a good influx of new players and rising player count but i feel with the new map and rebrand its been problem after problem and with the introduction of new weapons and constant changes to perks and weapons there so many ways to play the game but for some reason theres this part of me that use to liked the simplicity before all the huge changes to perks, guns, play styles, bosses, and map changes. as of right now the current event does interest me but i just havent had the drive to play like i did before. ive been leaning more into dividing my time between csgo and valorant and other shooters but hunt lately hasnt been on top of my to play list. (also they should really add instinctback, that was one of my fav perks OAT when it released sniffing out rats XD )
Lol I feel you there. I have been playing very little hunt the last few weeks. Some bounty clashes here and there to work on weapon challenges but that's about it. Also the inferno was great! Only thing I ever disliked about it was the terror it reaped on my performance in game lol
1:19:46 bomb lance was my farvorite weapon as well and it was nerfed on harvest of ghosts event, reload time increased by half a second, wich does not make sense when in the same time they added bomb launcher wich have insane reload speed especially if you run with waxed frags
Great video! I agree with most of the points that were made. High mmr players have a deeper understanding of the mechanics the game has and how they affect each other in play. It's truly a shame that Crytek doesn't utilise it. So many problems could be rectified or wouldn't have been introduced at all if Crytek consuted with their partners that have sunk in thousands of hours.
As a new player coming in cause of Gamepass this was pretty informative. I would love more weather differences. I definitely will buy the starter addition cause I’m hooked! The sound and the gameplay and the setting for the game is unique and i love it.
Great video again Horse! I really liked the conversation about the tools and bladmancer trait. As a 4 star hunter I see a lot of people with bows absolutely wrecking people in clash and hunt with that trait and it really doesn’t seem fair that if you get hit anywhere but the head it’s still an instant kill when it comes to bows and bolts when they use the trait. I’ve always believed that unless you get headshot by someone you should get a chance to at least take cover and have a rebuttal shot at the person or at least a chance to try and heal yourself and get back in the fight. I also have an issue with how good some tools are at killing people and burning them and it kinda ruins the idea of it bringing a tool in the tool slot. They should be used to silently take out grunts, take down doors, or help with boss fights but when it comes to fighting hunters a gun or a bow that uses a normal arrow or bolt should be better against hunters than the special arrows which again should only be used to create holes or cut off ways of escape for hunters not outright kill them. For bows I would like to see the amount of special arrows and bolts you can bring along cut by almost half and have the special arrows be fully a utility tool not a weapon. Would also like to see more of the wild targets and have a new boss introduced at some point because after 5 years we definitely deserve a new one lol. Absolutely loved what they had to say and can’t wait to see the next video!
Murder circus trailer shows lit up cool fortune teller machine...but in game its bland and has no lights when i put my points in and rolled my fortune and was bummed when no lights shined....its the little things man
Something I’d like to see is every so often having the MMR reset (maybe the 1st every month) and increase the amount of MMR upward and downward mobility?
My issue with Hunt is that I've been in the 6 star swear lobbies for so long that I dont have a frame of reference for the rest of the game. The last time I was in a 4 star or lower lobby was probably back in 2020. The game is so different now, I have no idea how it feels in the mid to low mmr ranges. All I know is that 6 star lobbies kill my soul. 😂😭 Still love the game tho
Most MMR issues can be fixed by massively increasing the weight of a low MMR on the team vs a high MMR on the team. As it is now, it feels like the low MMR players in the team have zero effect on the team rating. As someone who is in the top 5% on Console, but certainly not the top 1%, I can guarantee that getting rid of MMR would ruin the game for probably 80% of all players. There's not many of us, but there's enough that we'd probably show up in every fourth game or so as solos or duos, and that one six star in your game would demolish the lobby every single time. MMR has to remain in place to preserve the lower MMR players' gaming experience.
2:09:00 For MMR you are arguing with plaing with friends, Isn't it working like that now??? I play alot with random trios, and usualy MMR is the same with all random teammates and other teams whe I check in team details after match. Im 5/6 stars, and I play alot with my 2 friends lately, 1 friend Is been playing like me since the beggining of early acces and he is 5 stars, but we have a friend that is fresh and she have 2 stars MMR, and always after match when I check Team detalis, all teams have similar situations, sometimes (1 6star with 2 3stars), sometimes (1 6star 1 5star and 1 2star in team) etc. so as I see it I think its matching teams of friends with mixed MMR, It seems if you have random MMR in team it taking the median of all 3 players or 2 in duos and it makes a team MMR, then matches other teams with same or similar team MMR. I've seen such situations alot lately, if you want to check it just match with some friends with diffrent MMRs and check in team details. I think this one part could be skipped if guys know that, Im a bit supprised that they didnt know that it works like that. 2:09:12 thats not true, at least now. Also I've noticed that solos are in lower MMR matches, at least in trios I've seen many 6star solos in 4star MMR matches.
Next time make sure you do some background checking on your guests cause if you did youd know that the last person you as a content creator want to be associated with is someone like Hextin
Hextin does have some really stupid shit on his profile, but I think he's just someone who likes trolling and getting a rise out of people. I'm not saying it excuses it, but he contributes well to this discussion and he was respectful to us.
Never understood why we cant sell weapons we pick up from hunters. It would help with ppl with low money they can sell an expensive weapon and have a moment of accomplishment and make money. The amount of times ive picked up an expensive weapon i wish i could sell cause i dont use it is just astonishing
It's mostly because the economy was never designed around selling contraband. They would need to reorganize the structure of how much everything is sold for. It would be a net negative imo.
I hope Crytek watches this video and takes the feedback from dedicated players like these guys seriously. Also regarding the whole blademancer trait: The QoL from the trait is bad for the game because it detracts from the ammo economy as well as the other items/traits of the game; it would be certainly be nice to see Blade Seer maintain its value because right now it is totally useless, and it makes the toolbox consumable far less valuable since you do not need to refill your throwing weapon tools. Simply put, Blademancer shouldn't let you retrieve bladed ammo from range constantly. It should be a Burn Trait that you can purchase with trait points that allows you do the retrieval when you hold down LMB in Darksight, with the pullout damage, one time. It allows players to be strategic about when is the most opportune to use the trait, puts a handle on how often you see it happening in-match while still maintaining its power & fun factor. This change worked well for Necromancer and I believe it should be the same for Blademancer.
burn is an easy solve too. Old burn speed without a fire source on the player, new burn speed with one. Then flares and fuses and dragons breath are fine, but lamps and firebombs are twice as good.
Just to add to the balancing discussion, my main issue with crytek buffing and nerfing with a sledge hammer, and often going over the top with a change is that they then take so long to correct something they have over done. Making big changes in its self isn't an issue if they are quick to correct them when they clearly went too far. When Surefoot was broken during previous the event the fact that David said "ah... we won't sort it till after the event, its fine.." is such a lackidasical attitude.
on🔥 The current burn speed and instaburn is absolute aids and needs a hard nerf to All flares (burn speed, the amount, the quantity that you can bring, the price) as they made bringing a Molotov obsolete. On top of that there needs to be a total readjustment of burn speeds. Here is an example: Let's take the lanterns as a baseline at 1 for how long they burn and how much damage they do. Flares and Flare gun should be set to 0.75 and be able to only momentarily set you on fire, and afterward only char you if they are in direct contact with the body. On top of that the flare guns burn duration should be half of the regular ones(possibly longer tbd) as a bit of a balance adjustment, the flare gun could have a bigger initial burn but lower dps on the flip side regular flares last longer than a lantern but with way less damage(and only when in contact) Now to the firebombs. The regular and the liquid one should be set at 1.25 and hellfire could be at 1.5 The amount of flares should go down to 3 and the flare gun to 1/1 both get + 1 with frontiersman On top of that we could also get an additional choke bomb to somewhat compensate for the duration nerf they got (even with the additional one it will still be less than before) (2x 2min vs 3x 1min) And at last for the least, the price - It should double for both Thank you for coming to my TED talk
Rotjaw almost doesnt even exist and she was so fun to fight now its like oh guess thats just forgotten content for the most part lmao. Ursa is too easy to kill i was super bummed out when i solo killed her with ease. I mean the circus is the event right make it difficult.
I still like hunt. I have 1800 hours in the game and i just dont care for the game as much. I haven’t booted the game up for a couple weeks and i still really don’t have the hunt “itch”. I liked the game when it was less spammy, and less explosive spammy. I couldn’t care less about post malone, or circus stuff, but they are getting away from the gun play that hooked me to the game initially, even if it was slower paced, and campy at times. They had to even add a trait to speed up the single firing weapons to keep them a bit more relevant.
On the topic of the tutorial being bad. One thing i have seen consistently that new players do is waste ammo on AI and barely have any by the time they get into a fight cause the tutorial doesnt emphasize well enough that meleeing the AI is better than shooting them for maintaining ammo and a lower profile.
If a person can't figure that out by the 3rd game they should just leave....I think we are experiencing a lot of brain dead players and it's ruining gaming
@@caviestcaveman8691 By that same logic one can say that its pretty brain dead of crytek when they knew off the bat that their first tutorial sucked, and even when they did a rework, they still missed a crap ton of obvious things that their first tutorial failed at communicating for years. Its a two way street.
The MMR thing is broken, it should be balanced more with KDA. Im 1.2kd and im still the Mothertrucker who has to Skate up hill. No wonder i keep away from CQB and only snipe people cause i know 2KD and up just shoot better. And thats the reason i dont play Bounty Clash too, fuckin pointless to go and just die, theres no bodyshots only headshot or one time arrows. I did do an experiment tho, i died 50 times to get from 6 to 4 so id be locked in weekends in Bounty Clash. Was more fun i tell you that and even got KDA loss back 😏 For the first time this event sadly i have not participated, feels to unbalanced and it gets tiring. Im a Veteran something 5000k hours and still think its a Unique game.
I get I am really bad at the game. Head shot after head shot.. I don't understand why anybody likes this game. Give me a god damn helmet. Everyone is too damn good. I can jump from the tower and still they land a head shot.
I love the game for the world we play in. Plus, once you've put in the time and start getting better results, every headshot YOU get feels all the more sweet. That's why I still play hunt. I understand why you're having a hard time though, I lost constantly myself lol
Why did they just delete the lore of the game...we are living in a digital age we arent on disc so wtf someone please explain why they would take out fun lore that many of my friends enjoyed....oh and removed trails so new players cant test their abilities...why remove that....all these changes for no reason and its just the writing on the wall
Hello playing since feb 2018 and over 7.7k hours here stuck at p100 for 4y now :( there is 2 problems i see in 6 stars atm 1- solo modifier not working as soon you hit 6 stars you play versus the 6 stars and 2- the game reward passive players // campers near extraction watching netflix (sometime i think im in an empty lobby but there is still 6-8 ppl alive doing nothing when i spectate after dying) This event reward ppl not going for boss and bounty as well when you can get 4-5k $$$ just from bodies,cash register and fortune teller and no one can see you on the map and camp extraction you are going! whityyy making a video about how crytek can make the game experience better in 6 stars
You shouldn't have to have a tutorial to teach someone how to wallbang especially with fmj ammo..not hard to put 2 and 2 together...thats more of a dumbing down of humans in general ppl just arent thinking when they play games nowadays lmaooooo
There are many games that won't allow you to wall bang 90% of the time. It isn't a stretch to assume that someone new to hunt would have no idea you can bang most walls.
@@HuntersLodgeOfficial they really do need to work on better tutorial and shooting range but the fact that they haven't and it's been this long is a worrying sign that it feels like they are giving up especially when not many players came and stayed with this circus event...
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More of this please! I like having it in the background in between matches of hunt
I think this type of content is great while driving/working
I was waiting for this to play it on the background at work, it's my favorite content related to Hunt on YT currently, good job!
@@MaestreHavok mad UA-cam didn't notify me about this reply. Thank you for your kind words hunter.
How is a guy with 3800 hours and 6stars complaining about going against sweats?? You’re the sweat bruh
I can say from experience that he should play against those guys, but I can also say that it isn't fun at all either.
😂😂 Haha but sometimes high hours doesn't mean you play sweat.. I got lots of hours and still super suck 😅
He must be hella good tho!
I get where he's coming from. Lol It can suck fighting in only 6* lobbies, but the alternative is shitting on worse players all day, no matter how you put it.
I have 400 ish days (9 to 10 thousand hours) on console Hunt, and I can confirm that there's a difference between being good/experienced and being a sweat. I love the game, but that doesn't mean I study all the compounds looking for the perfect frag throw angle into a building to hit every corner. It 100% does mean I can't be placed against 3 or 4 star players and expect them to have a good time, though. There's too much difference in performance, and it's just not fair for them. But man does it kill me to be placed against people with KD averages twice or three times as high as mine.
@@SaintLumbridge but with that much time in game you deserve to shit on worse players
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Boutta move researcher to f tier next to lonely howls dad
@@HuntersLodgeOfficial I'd be funny
Would love to see Ursa Mortis come back in vanilla hunt. Best thoughts to reimplement her would be having a rare chance (probably under 5%) for a meathead spawn to instead be Ursa, and the compound that she spawns in should have the thorned brambles.
Definitely would be a great idea
I hope they keep the shredder in some form too, maybe not in the actual game... But at least in the shooting range so we can play around with it.
Thanks so much for having me. I can't believe I sound so mello, I thought I was being too loud lmao.
Thank you for being a part of it! 🤠
Wait that wasn't intentional? I kinda thought you were just like that or I would have said something
Sour with the best takes on the panel
Finding a smooth way to onboard new players is really important for this game’s longevity. The tutorial making no mention of bullet penetration is such a blunder lol. Great discussion all around
I couldn't agree more! The onboarding needs to be adjusted so much further. Thank you kindly for commenting.
Thank you for this. I enjoy and appreciate your content, Horse.
Perhaps something like this with a 3-4 Star group could be good too.
I'm definitely looking into this. Thank you for your kind words 🤠
As a Hunt fan, this roundtable episode rocks. Thank you for putting this together. Love hearing different opinions on this game.
I prefer the old school hunt but I love to hear about others perception and experience with 1896. Great job all and Hunters Lodge for this!
Thank you very much for this comment. Made my morning. 🤠
The comment about still water. I randomly decided to go to the top of the roof of the main house one match. I defended an attacking trio from there with one partner using a beetle just to harass em. They got caught in the cornfield. From the roof they had no cover. Besides the one tree.
@@havoklee some locations are just absolutely brutal for anyone pushing
When y'all were talking about the Maynard and its place in the gun sandbox, I feel it was overlooked that when you prestige (or are brand new), its the only sniper you have available to you from the beginning. All the others need to be unlocked. It's "place" is being the defacto sniper option.
It's funny you bring that up, I've actually brought that point up to plenty of people 😂 I thought I remembered mentioning that in this cast but my memory is probably fuzzy. It is definitely helpful for those on the prestige grind.
Dude I love these long ass videos/podcasts/chats you do. Keep it up!!
Thank you kindly Simon! I appreciate you commenting again. 🤠
I dont get where this mentality where you absolutely have to wipe the server, you absolutely have to have these determinate fights came from. I remember when the game was not about having to get the most kills but ultimately surviving and extracting with your bounty and your buddies. I remember matches where I had no lanterns to burn a body, and I risk getting killed if I went for a loot. I had to make the decision to run off and get the bounty, and risk having to fight them again later, or stay determined to see the stalemate out and let a third party take the bounty. I remember having to negotiate with other players to break stalemate. I remember having a no mans land scenario, and in the quiet talking to my team about our next moves, to guage the risk and rewards. I can kill a player, and use the time it takes for them to get the revive to escape with the bounty, and HOPE they didnt bring a stamina shot. Or I kill one of their friends. I can decide to push the other two with my team and try to beat them with numerical superiority when they have a positional advantage, or i can be rewarded for my perpetration and use the firebomb I brought. Yeah, it sucks in most fights, but I was rewarded for my risk to bring one for deciding to bring it over a vitality or frag. My buddy is down, my third player can provide covering fire on a 3 v 1 while I do a cheeky revive. etc. There use to be complexity, risk and reward to this game. Its gone now.
@@andrewdopple6946 I think a lot of people still have the survivor's mentality (me included). I have over 200k bucks and I still prioritize extracting with the bounty rather than killing everyone because that's what I feel "winning" a Hunt match is about.
@@limonero8757 Nah you might be the type that enjoys a "win" where you extract with bounty and dont fight anyone but to people like me and my friends thats so lame and boring we want ALL THE SMOKE. I play Hunt for the pvp not the pve so I NEED to extract with at least 3 or 4 kills otherwise it feels like such a lackluster and uneventful match.
@Hextin this play style screws players who farm clues and actually kill banish and get tokens who do all the work make noise have to wait and defend and then have to survive with a target on their back for you to chase. Fair enough but maybe remove the bounty holder target so you have to work harder to find and kill them
@@Hextin And that's completely fine. I enjoy some calmer matches in which I just do a clean sweep and that's it, but I also get exteremely bored if every single match is just PvE.
@@Hextin Nobody is keeping you from doing that, that play style just use to have the drawback of being more punishing if you die. That was until people were crying because they didn't like having to face a third party missing bats. Now if you have revive bolts resilience, and recovery shots, you can effectively have your team play cowboy apex. I'm also someone who enjoys the gunfights, its just i also miss the feeling of having to weigh risks and rewards.
As well as Ursa Mortis I hope they keep the shredder in some form too, maybe not in the actual game... But at least in the shooting range so we can play around with it.
11min in and I already loving this. Was geeking out when Hexen mentioned his least favorite cause it was my favorite one lol. Found myself audibly talking along with you guys! Keep it going ✊🏻
I love tide of shadows so much
Thank you kindly brother ✊🏻
Best way to fix blademancer is just make it affects tools, not bolts and arrows.
I know what I'm doing for the next three hours :)
Also anyone noticed there are missing skins, from the trailer to murder circus? at the "Post Malone's Murder Circus Trailer" on 0:31 there is converions skin wich I didn't see in the game at all and sniper lady 1:18 on trailer, she have a face ot thife lady we got in shop but everythink else is missing
The event is three months long, I've been assuming they'll just get added later
Oh god, I love this tipe of content
Keep on this way ❤
Thank you kindly for watching this and commenting.
with apertures i think they are pretty balanced, just need more weapons with them, the thing is that you have to learn to play with apertures, just by pressing one button you can have basic weapon and by pressing it you have scope at once that as far is am aware have similar zoom to marksman variant, for sure its more than deadeye, I think it is op enought. Im playin alot lebel aperture and mako aperture and I think its pretty op, even on ranger now, when I go with ranger I always take aperture variant, you just have to learn to use it. Btw I'm 5 star almost 2000h and have been with hunt since the beggining of early acces. and 6 stars are too sweaty :P
@@Shaggy-g4w I've tried apertures so many times and I feel like I could count the pores on someone's face most of the time lol there are specific unique angles where the aperture is awesome but I suppose it's just too much at most ranges I fight in. Probably takes more getting used to. Thanks for your perspective!
Aw man, would have loved to participate in this podcast (I'm 6*, almost hitting 5k hours and welp un-original Mosin+Upper main although I use almost everything)
Hellborn being a menace is wild, 6* usually wipe it in about 30 to 45 seconds max 😂 Me and my team even take it on when it's already red and being camped because of how laughably easy it is to wreck fire boy !
The Uppercut nerfs are slightly unwarranted indeed, the main reason it might have a high pick/ win rate doesn't come from how good is the gun but how good are the players using it.
I love being in three star mmr ❤️🤠 it's so much more fun lmao
@@HuntersLodgeOfficial Yep, you guys are playing, we are competing 😅
Me with my 2star ass listening to this. Lmao
You're in good company with me buddy 😭😂
We were all there at one point
Idk if yall remember them saying in the trailer for this event but they definitely hinted that they did some shooting range changes and i was bummed when nothing changed lol i wanted some cool moving targets etc
@@caviestcaveman8691 bahaha I think they were just poking fun at the shooting gallery in the circus. Maybe after the event is over they'll add some shooting gallery elements to the shooting range.
We have gotten a trait number inflation and currently have way too many traits that are never picked and a lot of them should be combined, either thematically or by functions (I know they did this a while back, but in my opinion not nearly enough):
Poacher and Vigilant,
Assailant and Blade Seer (or Assailant and Martialist; Vigilant with Blade Seer),
Hundred Hands and Bolt Trower,
Adrenalin and Determination,
Horn Skin and Bulwark
Mithridatist and Serpent
Wispersmith and Silent Killer
Scopesmith and Steady Aim
a few can also get some buffs to make them more useful and more enticing to pick:
Vigore should get a buff to be able to deal with the remaining status effects (faster poison recovery, and stopping bleeding in stages)
Ghoul can also give a small amount of stamina back
Iron eye can get the gradually lessening sway for all iron sighted guns
(Poison) Pain Sense should keep the last events bonuses (see low stamina people)
decoy supply, literally nobody uses it, and they should just roll it into the game by default.
Dauntless can be as well (I always forget that I bring it and it is very situational)
Also had this idea for a slight boost to Dauntless a while back (give it an active ability to cancel already lit throwables if the situation changes and you need to abort that lit dynamite bundle)
On top of all that, we should get a minor upgrade point cost reduction across the board - Witnes, Pitcher, Gator Legs, Beastface, Pain Sense, Vulture, Doctor, Fanning, Frontiersman, Greyhound, Conduit, Determination, Packmule, Quartermaster, Serpent, Fast Fingers, Levering should all cost 1 point less
I pretty much agree with you, but dauntless is so freaking good if you remember you have it. I actually always bring it since the level buff in prestige.
The researcher should be legendary and s tier but hey he will get his eventually.
Below F tier now
I will make a researcher tier at the bottom
No MMR would be a nightmare for people who are inexperienced with the game and are still trying to learn. If my friends are 1 star and we get wiped by 6 star players in every game then they’re more likely to give up because they’d be making no progress on any of their hunters or gaining any experience.
It's important to remember that the smallest populations of players in the game range from 4-6 star, not 1-3. So you wouldn't be finding six star players every game. But yes I agree it could be a disaster for new player integration.
Personally... I wish they would add the supply cache into the regular game when there's no event, being able to get the restoration and the master clue is really nice. The game just doesn't feel as good without it being there.
as a player of about 2600 hours going from console to pc over the span of like 6 years now i feel like my personal fav event was the inferno, introducing the fire map into the rotation made it so exciting and the introduction of rotjaw was great and was probably the last time i felt hunt was at its peak, not saying that the rebrand of hunt didnt have a good influx of new players and rising player count but i feel with the new map and rebrand its been problem after problem and with the introduction of new weapons and constant changes to perks and weapons there so many ways to play the game but for some reason theres this part of me that use to liked the simplicity before all the huge changes to perks, guns, play styles, bosses, and map changes. as of right now the current event does interest me but i just havent had the drive to play like i did before. ive been leaning more into dividing my time between csgo and valorant and other shooters but hunt lately hasnt been on top of my to play list. (also they should really add instinctback, that was one of my fav perks OAT when it released sniffing out rats XD )
Lol I feel you there. I have been playing very little hunt the last few weeks. Some bounty clashes here and there to work on weapon challenges but that's about it. Also the inferno was great! Only thing I ever disliked about it was the terror it reaped on my performance in game lol
1:19:46 bomb lance was my farvorite weapon as well and it was nerfed on harvest of ghosts event, reload time increased by half a second, wich does not make sense when in the same time they added bomb launcher wich have insane reload speed especially if you run with waxed frags
Great video! I agree with most of the points that were made.
High mmr players have a deeper understanding of the mechanics the game has and how they affect each other in play. It's truly a shame that Crytek doesn't utilise it. So many problems could be rectified or wouldn't have been introduced at all if Crytek consuted with their partners that have sunk in thousands of hours.
Thank you kindly!
This is actually a hilarious concept. Couldnt help but click on it.
Hope you enjoyed!
As a new player coming in cause of Gamepass this was pretty informative. I would love more weather differences.
I definitely will buy the starter addition cause I’m hooked!
The sound and the gameplay and the setting for the game is unique and i love it.
Happy to see the bayou pulled in another one. I hope you continue having a good time!
ANIME SKINS IN HUNT YEAAA
Great video again Horse!
I really liked the conversation about the tools and bladmancer trait. As a 4 star hunter I see a lot of people with bows absolutely wrecking people in clash and hunt with that trait and it really doesn’t seem fair that if you get hit anywhere but the head it’s still an instant kill when it comes to bows and bolts when they use the trait.
I’ve always believed that unless you get headshot by someone you should get a chance to at least take cover and have a rebuttal shot at the person or at least a chance to try and heal yourself and get back in the fight.
I also have an issue with how good some tools are at killing people and burning them and it kinda ruins the idea of it bringing a tool in the tool slot. They should be used to silently take out grunts, take down doors, or help with boss fights but when it comes to fighting hunters a gun or a bow that uses a normal arrow or bolt should be better against hunters than the special arrows which again should only be used to create holes or cut off ways of escape for hunters not outright kill them.
For bows I would like to see the amount of special arrows and bolts you can bring along cut by almost half and have the special arrows be fully a utility tool not a weapon.
Would also like to see more of the wild targets and have a new boss introduced at some point because after 5 years we definitely deserve a new one lol. Absolutely loved what they had to say and can’t wait to see the next video!
@@rayn8056 thank you for the level of detail you've put in this comment, and your kind words Rayn! Happy to see you comment again!
Murder circus trailer shows lit up cool fortune teller machine...but in game its bland and has no lights when i put my points in and rolled my fortune and was bummed when no lights shined....its the little things man
I think it still stands out a little bit just because of the nature of it but yeah it doesn't have any crazy animations I get what you're saying
@HuntersLodgeOfficial not even animation simply lights lol it's so dead but in the trailer it's all lit up lol
Something I’d like to see is every so often having the MMR reset (maybe the 1st every month) and increase the amount of MMR upward and downward mobility?
4200 hours ps5 player. this event brought me back. I love this shit so much
As a 3 star who solos a lot, there were 2 five stars in my game today. 😭
Those poor souls
If Luigi is the green shirt with mustache guy!!! He’s my favorite skin 1:34:00
Please tell me they mentioned flash bomb? I know it was OP but crytek just killed it completely
@@BaselFPS yep the flash bomb being completely ruined is mentioned during the balance discussion
Yeah I actually brought it up dont worry fam.
It's amazing I didn't realize they nerfed it so badly lol talk about just having an option but not really lol
@Hextin Hunger we come bois Hunt is dying
Martini needs to be as atrong as Sparks
My man coming out swinging with this opinion
My issue with Hunt is that I've been in the 6 star swear lobbies for so long that I dont have a frame of reference for the rest of the game. The last time I was in a 4 star or lower lobby was probably back in 2020. The game is so different now, I have no idea how it feels in the mid to low mmr ranges. All I know is that 6 star lobbies kill my soul. 😂😭 Still love the game tho
Most MMR issues can be fixed by massively increasing the weight of a low MMR on the team vs a high MMR on the team. As it is now, it feels like the low MMR players in the team have zero effect on the team rating.
As someone who is in the top 5% on Console, but certainly not the top 1%, I can guarantee that getting rid of MMR would ruin the game for probably 80% of all players. There's not many of us, but there's enough that we'd probably show up in every fourth game or so as solos or duos, and that one six star in your game would demolish the lobby every single time. MMR has to remain in place to preserve the lower MMR players' gaming experience.
2:09:00 For MMR you are arguing with plaing with friends, Isn't it working like that now??? I play alot with random trios, and usualy MMR is the same with all random teammates and other teams whe I check in team details after match. Im 5/6 stars, and I play alot with my 2 friends lately, 1 friend Is been playing like me since the beggining of early acces and he is 5 stars, but we have a friend that is fresh and she have 2 stars MMR, and always after match when I check Team detalis, all teams have similar situations, sometimes (1 6star with 2 3stars), sometimes (1 6star 1 5star and 1 2star in team) etc. so as I see it I think its matching teams of friends with mixed MMR, It seems if you have random MMR in team it taking the median of all 3 players or 2 in duos and it makes a team MMR, then matches other teams with same or similar team MMR. I've seen such situations alot lately, if you want to check it just match with some friends with diffrent MMRs and check in team details. I think this one part could be skipped if guys know that, Im a bit supprised that they didnt know that it works like that. 2:09:12 thats not true, at least now. Also I've noticed that solos are in lower MMR matches, at least in trios I've seen many 6star solos in 4star MMR matches.
I always thought hex breaker was based off of the DC comic character Johna Hex
Nah it's clearly Hugh Jackman in van Helsing
Next time make sure you do some background checking on your guests cause if you did youd know that the last person you as a content creator want to be associated with is someone like Hextin
Lol spill the beans
Hextin does have some really stupid shit on his profile, but I think he's just someone who likes trolling and getting a rise out of people. I'm not saying it excuses it, but he contributes well to this discussion and he was respectful to us.
Never understood why we cant sell weapons we pick up from hunters. It would help with ppl with low money they can sell an expensive weapon and have a moment of accomplishment and make money. The amount of times ive picked up an expensive weapon i wish i could sell cause i dont use it is just astonishing
It's mostly because the economy was never designed around selling contraband. They would need to reorganize the structure of how much everything is sold for. It would be a net negative imo.
@HuntersLodgeOfficial I myself never ran outta money but apparently yall say yall know a few that struggle and this wouldn't break the game imo
I hope Crytek watches this video and takes the feedback from dedicated players like these guys seriously. Also regarding the whole blademancer trait: The QoL from the trait is bad for the game because it detracts from the ammo economy as well as the other items/traits of the game; it would be certainly be nice to see Blade Seer maintain its value because right now it is totally useless, and it makes the toolbox consumable far less valuable since you do not need to refill your throwing weapon tools. Simply put, Blademancer shouldn't let you retrieve bladed ammo from range constantly. It should be a Burn Trait that you can purchase with trait points that allows you do the retrieval when you hold down LMB in Darksight, with the pullout damage, one time. It allows players to be strategic about when is the most opportune to use the trait, puts a handle on how often you see it happening in-match while still maintaining its power & fun factor. This change worked well for Necromancer and I believe it should be the same for Blademancer.
The hunt burnout is real, and I think a lot of people confuse Hunt Burnout with the game being worse in some way.
burn is an easy solve too.
Old burn speed without a fire source on the player, new burn speed with one.
Then flares and fuses and dragons breath are fine, but lamps and firebombs are twice as good.
Burnout is a real issue. I find i enjoy hunt a lot more myself when I take breaks from it to enjoy other games, then come back.
Bro I would love to be in one these discussions i have a lot of hours and insights i could share
Idk yall i cant wait to see yall in Hunger
Just to add to the balancing discussion, my main issue with crytek buffing and nerfing with a sledge hammer, and often going over the top with a change is that they then take so long to correct something they have over done. Making big changes in its self isn't an issue if they are quick to correct them when they clearly went too far. When Surefoot was broken during previous the event the fact that David said "ah... we won't sort it till after the event, its fine.." is such a lackidasical attitude.
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The current burn speed and instaburn is absolute aids and needs a hard nerf to All flares (burn speed, the amount, the quantity that you can bring, the price) as they made bringing a Molotov obsolete. On top of that there needs to be a total readjustment of burn speeds.
Here is an example: Let's take the lanterns as a baseline at 1 for how long they burn and how much damage they do.
Flares and Flare gun should be set to 0.75 and be able to only momentarily set you on fire, and afterward only char you if they are in direct contact with the body. On top of that the flare guns burn duration should be half of the regular ones(possibly longer tbd)
as a bit of a balance adjustment, the flare gun could have a bigger initial burn but lower dps on the flip side regular flares last longer than a lantern but with way less damage(and only when in contact)
Now to the firebombs. The regular and the liquid one should be set at 1.25 and hellfire could be at 1.5
The amount of flares should go down to 3 and the flare gun to 1/1 both get + 1 with frontiersman
On top of that we could also get an additional choke bomb to somewhat compensate for the duration nerf they got (even with the additional one it will still be less than before) (2x 2min vs 3x 1min)
And at last for the least, the price - It should double for both
Thank you for coming to my TED talk
Rotjaw almost doesnt even exist and she was so fun to fight now its like oh guess thats just forgotten content for the most part lmao. Ursa is too easy to kill i was super bummed out when i solo killed her with ease. I mean the circus is the event right make it difficult.
I still like hunt. I have 1800 hours in the game and i just dont care for the game as much. I haven’t booted the game up for a couple weeks and i still really don’t have the hunt “itch”. I liked the game when it was less spammy, and less explosive spammy. I couldn’t care less about post malone, or circus stuff, but they are getting away from the gun play that hooked me to the game initially, even if it was slower paced, and campy at times. They had to even add a trait to speed up the single firing weapons to keep them a bit more relevant.
On the topic of the tutorial being bad. One thing i have seen consistently that new players do is waste ammo on AI and barely have any by the time they get into a fight cause the tutorial doesnt emphasize well enough that meleeing the AI is better than shooting them for maintaining ammo and a lower profile.
If a person can't figure that out by the 3rd game they should just leave....I think we are experiencing a lot of brain dead players and it's ruining gaming
@@caviestcaveman8691 By that same logic one can say that its pretty brain dead of crytek when they knew off the bat that their first tutorial sucked, and even when they did a rework, they still missed a crap ton of obvious things that their first tutorial failed at communicating for years. Its a two way street.
Need me a bloodborne hunter skin
And that's on GOD
Ralph Barbosa is a 6* 🤯
You're cooking
The MMR thing is broken, it should be balanced more with KDA. Im 1.2kd and im still the Mothertrucker who has to Skate up hill. No wonder i keep away from CQB and only snipe people cause i know 2KD and up just shoot better. And thats the reason i dont play Bounty Clash too, fuckin pointless to go and just die, theres no bodyshots only headshot or one time arrows.
I did do an experiment tho, i died 50 times to get from 6 to 4 so id be locked in weekends in Bounty Clash. Was more fun i tell you that and even got KDA loss back 😏
For the first time this event sadly i have not participated, feels to unbalanced and it gets tiring. Im a Veteran something 5000k hours and still think its a Unique game.
I think going off kd would be a good try
I get I am really bad at the game. Head shot after head shot.. I don't understand why anybody likes this game. Give me a god damn helmet. Everyone is too damn good. I can jump from the tower and still they land a head shot.
I love the game for the world we play in. Plus, once you've put in the time and start getting better results, every headshot YOU get feels all the more sweet. That's why I still play hunt. I understand why you're having a hard time though, I lost constantly myself lol
Well, here is the kicker.. I been playing since 2019
Why did they just delete the lore of the game...we are living in a digital age we arent on disc so wtf someone please explain why they would take out fun lore that many of my friends enjoyed....oh and removed trails so new players cant test their abilities...why remove that....all these changes for no reason and its just the writing on the wall
Hello
playing since feb 2018 and over 7.7k hours here stuck at p100 for 4y now :(
there is 2 problems i see in 6 stars atm 1- solo modifier not working as soon you hit 6 stars you play versus the 6 stars and 2- the game reward passive players // campers near extraction watching netflix (sometime i think im in an empty lobby but there is still 6-8 ppl alive doing nothing when i spectate after dying)
This event reward ppl not going for boss and bounty as well when you can get 4-5k $$$ just from bodies,cash register and fortune teller and no one can see you on the map and camp extraction you are going!
whityyy making a video about how crytek can make the game experience better in 6 stars
:D
Just wipe a bounty clash and pretty much get 9/9 event points i guess thats difficult
You shouldn't have to have a tutorial to teach someone how to wallbang especially with fmj ammo..not hard to put 2 and 2 together...thats more of a dumbing down of humans in general ppl just arent thinking when they play games nowadays lmaooooo
There are many games that won't allow you to wall bang 90% of the time. It isn't a stretch to assume that someone new to hunt would have no idea you can bang most walls.
@HuntersLodgeOfficial I guessssss but still not hard to put 2 and 2 together lol
@HuntersLodgeOfficial I love bangin walls baby
@@HuntersLodgeOfficial they really do need to work on better tutorial and shooting range but the fact that they haven't and it's been this long is a worrying sign that it feels like they are giving up especially when not many players came and stayed with this circus event...
Most games don't have stuff like that and it couldn't hurt. I think this entire mindset has a severe lack of sympathy.