@@SilverSentinel_ we are not talking about how to clear it you d*mbass we are talking about how this isnt comfy as a test room since we dont have training domain abyss isnt endgame content, abyss is our CURRENT test domain clear / fullstar isnt a thing anymore, everyone can do it easily Mihoyo had to learn how Wuwa made his ToA (abyss) able to bypass certain rooms so that we could do tests in any room without having to complete the annoying room beforehand.
@@SilverSentinel_ we are not talking about how to clear it you d*mbass we are talking about how this isnt comfy as a test room since we dont have training domain abyss isnt endgame content, abyss is our CURRENT test domain clear / fullstar isnt a thing anymore, everyone can do it easily Hoyo have to learn how Wuwa made his ToA (abyss) able to bypass certain rooms so that we could do tests in any room without having to complete the annoying room beforehand.
I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Furina. I try to play Xingqiu. My Furina deals more damage. I try to play Yelan. My Furina deals more damage. I try to play Ayato. My Furina deals more damage. I want to play Wriothesley. His best team has Furina. I want to play Xiao, Wanderer - they both want Furina. She grabs me by the throat. I fish for her. I cook for her. I give her the Fleuve Sandre. She isn't satisfied. I pull Key of Kaj-Nisut. "I don't need this much HP" She tells me. "Give me more field time." She grabs Grabs my credit card and forces me to pull for her c6. "You just need to funnel me more. I can deal more damage with Signature." I can't pull for Splendor, I don't have enough primogems. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs Mademoiselle Crabaletta. She says "Let the world come live" There is no hint of sadness in her eyes. Nothing but pure aoe hydro application. What a cruel world.
Yeah, the worst part is mostly 12-1 first chamber. I brought a team without anemo or pyro the first time and the cryo dude’s weird blizzard attack killed me by surprise the second time. Other than that, standard .0 abyss
Well, the first team is an actually cool team to play furina in. Kinich isn't, he just wants the burning dps to be played in burning. Not that hard to understand, ngl
This abyss really is easy because I upgraded my Kinich to 80 and manage to 9-star it fairly quick, then remembered that I forgot to upgrade his talents. This abyss buff is insane on him tho.
I get 27s on 12-3 with mualani even though her talent is yet level up, the blessings just to much bro, like 80% dmg bonus on na and skill????, are you fucking kiding me !!!
I think I like Burgeon Kinich more (Nahida, Xingqiu, Thoma, Kinich). I didn't like the Furina, Bennet, Xiangling team much, because Kinich moves so much he constantly leaves Bennet's circle and/or Xiangling's pyronado range. And on top of that you are supremely vulnerable without a shield and Furina eating away at your health.
Bro you're playing a team with only xingchiu as your defensive option, or a burgeon team without an good em burgeon trigger (thoma can not be builded for burgeon dmg and protection at the same time). For the teams with furina is why Baizhu exist.
@@cleod7439No, xingqiu and thoma together actually work well enough. I’ve tried teams with EM thoma and xingqiu as the only defensive options on the team and I had zero problems clearing on multiple occasions.
@@endieloe8972 its very rare, and we’re talking about xingiu AND thoma on the same team. Having the dmg reduction + micro healing from xingqiu and EM thoma’s small shields are well enough to sustain.
By muting "dialogue volume" since enemies voicelines are in "SFX volume" for some reason.(probably because there's only hilichurls and slimes early on in development so they just considers their grunts and noises part of the sfx and did the same with every other enemies since)
Zajef has listed Navia in top 6-7 DPS in Genshin and yet he doesnt have her on his account. What most shocking to me is that he is the last person I'd see having Emilie on their account and yet he has her. Edit: relax guys!! I meant it as a joke and funny fact. I obviously know why he has Emilie and not Navia. Peace ✌️
Zajef doesn't pull on characters solely base on their power level, but also how many new team options that they open up. Navia basically doesn't open up any new team archetype for Zajef, but Emilie does.
@@alirehman4858 Emilie is more versatile (and is the subdps with the most dmg in the game right now). Also rmember than you can only use one onfielder, but can use 3 subdps, so subdps always will have more value.
just prepare for the power spike, they are making the new character doing ridiculous damage even with no reaction. However one thing I wish for hoyo do in the future is they buff the old character like awaken or something they did in honkai impact 3rd.
Well at keqing mains investment, hyperbloom is only worse than neuvillette and arlechino best teams. So there's no need for "too low investment". For example raiden hyperbloom with Baizhu is better than raiden C2 best teams.
@@cleod7439Yeah hyperboom is so strong it make any DPS that's bit Neuvi or Arleccino irrelevant. Al haitham is an hyperboom driver so I guess he does have that for him.
While I will never complain about more Furina because she’s my favorite I was slightly disappointed to see how much better my Kinich was with her over Emilie. I hit for 250K first shot in the overworld compared to just 160K with Emilie. I’d say Emilie’s personal damage makes up die it but Furina be hitting crazy vapes too so.
Emilie does not buff him nor enable him in any way, she is just more raw dmg on the team, while Furina's dmg boost does buff him by a lot and makes his personal dmg bigger. That's the difference you're seeing, Emilie isnt really needed on his teams unless you just want more dmg offield overall.
@@danielguerrero6057Emilee is really only seen so much use because you basically need burning for several new teams, and their isn’t really an off field Dendro that doesn’t also require being swapped in every time a wave is killed like Nahida.
@@nfrance999why would you need more dendro app when emilie is an off-field dendro herself. You’d want off field pyro which we have 3. Just slap deepwood on any other team member
@@nfrance999Why would you need more dendro application when Emilie herself is one and off field too? If you need dendro shred just use deepwood on literally anyone else in that team like thoma dehya and xiangling
@@gaet1893 Sorry, I did a bad job of explaining that this wasn't specifically about the Kinichi team, just that Emilee will see a lot more usage when their are characters that need burning applied/off field pyro, at least until Mauvika (hopefully) brings a new source of usable off field pyro application. Mualani for example really likes a team like Dehya/XL/Emilee(I use Nahida because I don't have Emilee but the point stands). In this team, the double pyro res doesn't do much for Mualani, but a future team might be something like Mualani/Mauvika/Xilonen/Furina potentially, assuming Mauvika follows the trends of past archons and 100% up time, you might not need dendro to keep pyro app up for a team such as that.
The thing is Dehya can't keep up with Furina's hydro app to keep burning aura on the enemy, nor her pyro coordinated attack hit fast enough to trigger burgeon. Ideally you would want to trigger Kinich A4 passive every 0.8s and Dehya struggles to do that
@@domi8499 Yeah you're right that due to Kinich A4 and the pyro that dehya provides in some scenarios it's a bit tight doint 4E, but normally I am able to and in this situation the defensive utility and the 30% dendro res make a huge diff. Although, Dehya's res interruption saved me of lose a lot of E's against aggresive enemies.
Just realized wouldn't raiden burst for nahida double hydro hyperbloom be a really good hyperbloom trigger? Has the highest bloom trigger rate and nahida applies 1.5 dendro anyway so shouldn't have aura compatability issues. Even then, it will end up as electrocharged which is still good for making blooms yeah? U dont need to actively build ER on her, just her ascension + ER substats from the 3 EM pieces would be enough
Is worse than basic attack with nahida. raiden ult animation is too long to be worth only for hyperbloom triggers, and Nahida do more personal dmg on field that what raiden can give with 3 or 4 more hyperblooms per field time. You can do it, but its just worse.
It's always pretty easy for the first half of each region's patches tbh. The real annoying stuff usually comes later nearing the end when they've become familiar on which lineups counters whatever meta teams the playerbase comes up with throughout the year
I have a couple of questions about Dehya. How do you build her for this team? HP/HP/HP? What artifact set is best for her? What's her best weapon? I'd appreciate any advice on how to build her.
the reason you use sac is to bypass deyha cd so she can line up right in kinich dmg rotation she gives off-field pyro application for burning interrupt resistance/dmg reduction and with bennett you get his healing so you are damn near unkillable also do not in this team you never ult on deyha AT ALL
@@TybossMaster Oh thats why she has Sac Greatsword. That was a very complete answer, thanks. One last question, do I need others substats beside HP on her artifacts?
1 offield pyro youd want two pyro for resonance (+atk), noblesse holder, usually bennet or you can have tankfei flex slot: offfield hydro for burgeon variant, zhongli for shred and deepwood, baizhu if you want more heals, anything really idk
i heard this spiral is easy, but I still cant 3 star 11-3. what do i do wrong? do I have to level up all my team artefact to 20? my artefact level average at 16-18, with good main stat and vary in substats. Or i just need better mechanics? all my weapons above lv 80, lv 80+ character, and lv 7+ talents my team : 1. wanderer, bennette c5, kazuha, zhongli 2. gaming c5, furina, charlotte c1, linette c6
Honestly I think I'd use Wanderer in the second half. Use him, Faruzan, Bennett and Zhongli. The enemy moves too fast but Wanderer may be able to attack her more easily than Gaming Don't use Gaming in the first half since the second wave has pyro resistant enemies. You can use Furina to vaporize off them, though, and you can also add in another hydro unit like Xingqiu, Yelan or Neuvillette. So: Furina + another hydro if you have one built but someone like Fischl or Yae should also work, keep Charlotte for healing, add in Kazuha. Also, I'd recommend leveling up at least your main carries' artifacts to level 20. It's guaranteed extra stats, unlike substats that depend on RNG. Supports usually don't need fully leveled artifacts as much unless they give buffs based on their stats or if you need more healing/shielding. It's also recommended to crown or lv 9 your carry's main source of damage. I do that with strong sub DPSes too. Oh and leveling up weapons to 90 is often pretty important if the character's damage is significant. Hope this helps
omg im blooming do please level 20 your artifact please use kazuha as a proper support please use an actual rotation if youre not just playing hyperbloom
I mean he just want to test out Kinich so it doesn’t really matter for the other team so he might as well use an easy to play team that can clear content really fast
Dehya procs deepwood easier for Kinich and Emilie since XL needs burst to consistently proc it, she provides really nice sustain (Not 100% uptime without sac tho which sucks), XL and Dehya don’t have THAT high of a damage difference too since XL isn’t getting buffed at all by Vape, Emblem, or VV. Dehya also doesn’t have disgustingly terrible energy needs in this team since she never bursts.
bcs after her burst ends an skill "turret" spawn with level 2 already. That's the optimal way of playing her actually, if you can burst every rotation then you should only use her burst
even as someone who only pulled for exploration his skill randomly autotargets anything in the range of an ICBM missile sucks ass sometimes if you just want to bungee off him you need to hold and aim upwards like a maniac, but during philogliston swap its just scuffed, you just made an enemy not only that, you cant change target during skill, so if you targeted the wrong guy its just over. his aim during skill hold is also scuffed, and you dont get to choose the next enemy if it swaps after your target died, so its double joever. if you swap off thinking its over you're just taking the L so its triple joever
Nah my Kinich burgeon team feels good and no circle impact. I can hit over 250K in abyss with Furina C1, Thoma EM build and Baizhu on Thrilling Tales. My Kinich is C0R1. My highest hit was 371060 😊
It's not burning is viable, it's more about hitting hitting burning enemies to get damage for Kinich and Emilie. Burning is still sitting at the bottom as a reaction damage. The 80% dmg bonus buff on na and skill in abyss blessing is also carring a lot of natlan dps teams.
@@viva862 makes sense thanks! I have C2 Nahida and I realize that the dendro res shred only applies to Quicken. 😂 I thought that I'm shredding dendro with Nahida when I'm just allowing burning to crit. Btw, if I have her at c2, do you think she's viable (for crit burns) instead of say Xiangling or Furina? *I also have C2 Kinich btw, so maybe that'll render Nahida even less optimal
@@hijodelsoldeoriente Nahida can provide as much or even better dendro app than Emilie, and her high EM (while not needed at all) can still provide high tics of burning which isnt a lot but it's still dmg for the team.
hardly. he's more like yoimiya if anything if you think about it. you just press skill, do a bunch of the small ranged NAs and then do a big last hit/bang 3-4 times and repeat, with both having a burst that you can just ignore entirely if you want to (or, have to). only real difference between them is the damage, the type of damage (element and skill damage vs NA damage), ease of use, and most important of all: kinich can *actually hit enemies that are going faster than 1mm/s*
Why is Pyroslinger a problem? I generally don't let Fatui infuse and if they do, they setup burning automatically for Kinich. So I do not see the issue.
they set up burning but they’ll have a massive reduction. the only issue I see is that you’re gonna need to slot in hydro. its also difficult to stop fatui from infusing because kinich’s teams or kinich himslf doesnt stagger them to oblivion so you have to prepare to break the shields. pyroslinger’s shield isn’t a good thing in general even for kinich’s burning.
Glad I pulled Mualani instead of Kinich. Kinich's exploration ability is more useful, but Mualani is so much more satisfying in combat. Not to mention she asks me if I need a surfboard, has a victory pose, a cute dance and a luffy animation. Truly the archon of serotonin
Her rotations are very inconsistent depending on how many enemies there are, not to mention all of her abilities can randomly miss + her teams are absolutely putrid. Dunno man I would have to say she is one of the less satisfying and clunky characters as of late
just use xingqui vs the pyro fatui sniper?. If you dislike furina that much and like xingqui that much i dont see a problem xd Currently using kinich with xingqui toma and bennet, Fuck it. full single target. it's not that bad
@@CodeTetsu set gives 40% cr, kinich ascends crit damage. considering this he doesn't have a good crit (he has roughly 140 CV, which is considered very below average)if you consider he doesn't even have er or atk% to cope with the low cv...(Average cv is 160+ and 180- 200 is good, anything above that is amazing/great)Yeah it's pretty bad. My reverie kinich deals an insane amount of damage compared to this video, the build is really good. For example I have 85-175 which is like a Better crit than him while the set is giving me 0 crit... Meaning we have similar stats but I'm getting 50% damage from the set+ 18% ATK . Plus I have 40% ATK from stats which is really good.
@@CodeTetsufor Kinich specifically he should be able to hit at least 80% crit rate easily since you don’t have to build a lot anyway with his BIS set. And because of that you should be able to build well over 200 crit damage with his ascension stat, circlet and decent to good rolls on rest of artifacts.
@@utaita8214 That cv is from pure artifacts alone right? That means even if you had 30 cv an artifact that’s only 150 so not even good. That’s outrageous. No wonder I can’t clear anything. The build requirements are crazy.
kinich without emile is not playable Period unless Maviuka release and she does Pyro application well enough to proc burning/burgeon if you're using furina/bennet, bc xiangling doesnt really work that well since her pyronado doesnt hit the enemy while kinich is spining on his E
Lol, the Emilie bait is so funny. She doesnt enable him in any way, she is just more raw dmg to the team, the end. Nahida can provide just as much if not better dendro app, while Dehya, Xianling and Thoma provide enough pyro aura for burning. Mi Kinich is hitting for 250k to 300k just fine, no Emilie needed.
@@moonmaap nope you're wrong~her pyro nado doesnt always hit the enemy when KINICH is doing his E and swinging around but if emile is in the team she can apply dendro application OFF field when theres already pyro on field like bennnet burst, no emile means kinich's best team might be Kinich furina XL bennet but like i said XL's PyroNado doesnt always hit..
@@danielguerrero6057 Nahida does apply dendro off field but emile can do that while buffing kinich and nahida doesnt thats why KINICH EMILE DEYHA BENNET is a thing, and if you dont have EMILE you most likely need Furina for her buff.. zajef's abyss test run already shows you KINICH XL Furina Bennet doesnt work pretty well despite it does work, Clearly can see XL's Burst doesnt hit the enemy sometime when kinich's E spining while XL's Burst off field also spining it doesnt hit..
...because he may have not slept well, or he's been up for hours, or maybe, just MAYBE, because no one can be forever happy with a perpetual smile on their faces after doing something for longer than 2 fricking months! if you don't like that he's living his damn life then the door's to the right, sir.
@@1Albedo Have you even watched his other videos? He looks so uninterested in the game. Bro for real needs to drop the game and move on. It brings him no happiness except cash 💰 Other CCs somehow manage to be happier.
People get suprised by a 200k kinich hit while my C0R1 kinich with dogshit reverie set does around 400k first hit and 330k rest of hits... He just obliterate everything and idk how people still say that al-haitham is better 😂 ik that this abyss blessing buffs kinich dmg a lot but the dmg would still be insane without it and by far more dmg overall than al-haitham
You got bait very hard by current Abyss buff. In normal situation without current stupid abyss buff, his personal damage (with burn) are a bit lower than Al-Haitham (with quicken), while his best team deal around the same damage as Al-haitham quickbloom best team. The problem is, (almost) no one have Emilie for Kinich while everyone have Nahida for Al-Haitham...
I have Alhaitham and I don’t really use him for his damage lol I mostly use him as a cope on field solo dendro in a Hyperbloom team (with a f ton of er) and he work fine there without needing much investment To me Al haitham can be play in more team and is a good choice for 2nd 5 stars dendro character when you want a good dendro applier when Nahida is busy helping another team While Kinich is more of a not that versatile carry (and being tied to Bennett doesn’t help much)
Those 12-1/1 fatui were the worst part of this abyss, easily. Those guys just restrict your team options so hard.
You can swirl the pyro from the pyro fatui into the cryo one, so you can go hydro + anemo instead of pyro. Still a bit annoying, but it works.
@@SilverSentinel_if you think this is annoying try using burning to melt the fat dude
@@SilverSentinel_ we are not talking about how to clear it you d*mbass
we are talking about how this isnt comfy as a test room since we dont have training domain
abyss isnt endgame content, abyss is our CURRENT test domain
clear / fullstar isnt a thing anymore, everyone can do it easily
Mihoyo had to learn how Wuwa made his ToA (abyss) able to bypass certain rooms so that we could do tests in any room without having to complete the annoying room beforehand.
lol people who don’t own kazuha are really playing a different game huh
@@SilverSentinel_ we are not talking about how to clear it you d*mbass
we are talking about how this isnt comfy as a test room since we dont have training domain
abyss isnt endgame content, abyss is our CURRENT test domain
clear / fullstar isnt a thing anymore, everyone can do it easily
Hoyo have to learn how Wuwa made his ToA (abyss) able to bypass certain rooms so that we could do tests in any room without having to complete the annoying room beforehand.
1 year of furina "im tired of using furina for everyteam"
Bennett, Xiangling, and Xingqui "👀 glad he didnt say us"
This abyss blessing is such a bait for the new characters
Always has been
Since the beginning
yeah and it buff too
They did this before but this time its on another level
@@lucifermorningstar8387 Yeah but this time the buff is nuts it's like having a secret inconditional stronger furina in the pocket.
I am more tired of playing Xiangling, just release the pyro archon already
Bruh, Xiangling impact for 4 years
shes not even that good in the team, just use dehya
@@dtg9k355she is good there, dehya's zone are crippled if enemies/kinich move out of the zone. Not to mention the downtime of dehya's skill
@@dtg9k355 cope
@@Galarielsacrificial great sword exist (and you're not playing agains super mobile enemies with kinich anyways)
I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Furina. I try to play Xingqiu. My Furina deals more damage. I try to play Yelan. My Furina deals more damage. I try to play Ayato. My Furina deals more damage. I want to play Wriothesley. His best team has Furina. I want to play Xiao, Wanderer - they both want Furina. She grabs me by the throat. I fish for her. I cook for her. I give her the Fleuve Sandre. She isn't satisfied. I pull Key of Kaj-Nisut. "I don't need this much HP" She tells me. "Give me more field time." She grabs Grabs my credit card and forces me to pull for her c6. "You just need to funnel me more. I can deal more damage with Signature." I can't pull for Splendor, I don't have enough primogems. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs Mademoiselle Crabaletta. She says "Let the world come live" There is no hint of sadness in her eyes. Nothing but pure aoe hydro application. What a cruel world.
I know this is a copypasta but furina doesn't have AoE hydro application.
@@ardaoguzhan8181 mademoiselle crabaletta tho
@@ardaoguzhan8181H-have you played Furina?
@@ardaoguzhan8181also let the world come alive is ult voice line, not skill, and "sadness in his eyes"
This pasta needs rework
@@what-you-want-of-me-yt We can't rework it, it's always Xiangling
I love the french singing without the proper music in the background so it just feels like he's having TheVoices
Venti is unironically quite good in this abyss. Lol.
we love to see it, sadly I still dont have him
Except the last chamber which tbf, u can just brute force.
This abyss has very random enemies. And easy overall.
1st side is a bit AoE and 2nd side is ST, which works well with both Mualani and Kinich.
Yeah, the worst part is mostly 12-1 first chamber. I brought a team without anemo or pyro the first time and the cryo dude’s weird blizzard attack killed me by surprise the second time. Other than that, standard .0 abyss
MFW Zajef is looking for Dehya in the four stars and can't find her lol
0:15 MEEEEEE!!! THE SECOND IS STARTED TRYING HIM OUT THIS GUY REALLY GOT ON MY NERVES 😭
He was ranting about first half needing Hydro, meanwhile the 2 next enemies are dendro resistant. Kinich is obviously for 2nd half.
I believe his main frustration is with wanting to test Kinich in non single target scenarios, of which 12-1-1 is the only chamber.
“I’m tired of furinaaaa”
*put her on the first half
0:15
I think he meant having her on every team
He meant not using her with the new unit as well
Guys, I know what he meant…
Well, the first team is an actually cool team to play furina in. Kinich isn't, he just wants the burning dps to be played in burning. Not that hard to understand, ngl
"kinich in abyss" likely place for a playable character to be
This abyss really is easy because I upgraded my Kinich to 80 and manage to 9-star it fairly quick, then remembered that I forgot to upgrade his talents. This abyss buff is insane on him tho.
I get 27s on 12-3 with mualani even though her talent is yet level up, the blessings just to much bro, like 80% dmg bonus on na and skill????, are you fucking kiding me !!!
Wanderer was like 60cdmg and 60dmg bonus on his first abyss.
They do this to simulate proper artifacts.
Me running kinich without set, at level 70, running a emilie team with Emilie on deepwood, dehya and bennet.
This abyss is too easy xd
OH MY GOD IM BURNINGGG
zyox in hell
I think I like Burgeon Kinich more (Nahida, Xingqiu, Thoma, Kinich). I didn't like the Furina, Bennet, Xiangling team much, because Kinich moves so much he constantly leaves Bennet's circle and/or Xiangling's pyronado range. And on top of that you are supremely vulnerable without a shield and Furina eating away at your health.
Same! I went for this combo and enjoyed this much more than just dendro and pyro.
Bro you're playing a team with only xingchiu as your defensive option, or a burgeon team without an good em burgeon trigger (thoma can not be builded for burgeon dmg and protection at the same time).
For the teams with furina is why Baizhu exist.
@@cleod7439No, xingqiu and thoma together actually work well enough. I’ve tried teams with EM thoma and xingqiu as the only defensive options on the team and I had zero problems clearing on multiple occasions.
but the burgeon damage itself sometimes break through your thoma shield lol, especially if you don't play perfectly and take a few hits beforehand
@@endieloe8972 its very rare, and we’re talking about xingiu AND thoma on the same team. Having the dmg reduction + micro healing from xingqiu and EM thoma’s small shields are well enough to sustain.
I hope mobile players who pulled for Kinich have a screen protector. They gon need it 💀
Too late, already cracked
?
As a mobile player, that's not true
it's xiao mobile players all over again
Nah hes not bad on mobile ngl
is it just me or is zajef losing a noticeable amount of weight. good on him
Zachef did the yumkaswirl
Man knich looks so silly, I might pull him on his rerun.
That trying to get into Bennet circle...yeah idk
He’s honestly so fun
chat how did zajeff mute character combat dialogue but not the enemies voicelines
By muting "dialogue volume" since enemies voicelines are in "SFX volume" for some reason.(probably because there's only hilichurls and slimes early on in development so they just considers their grunts and noises part of the sfx and did the same with every other enemies since)
I love how he feels, I just hate playing him with Bennet or Xiangling. Thoma Burgeon felt ok but deepwood bennet doesn't feel that good
No way you were looking for dehya among 4 star characters 😂😂😂
i love his charge attack
xiangling is bad with kinich ive found, and he NEEDS dmg reduction and resistance to interuption, deyha fits the spot perfectly.
they put this guy in abyss not against kinich but for mualani
xq dad been playing with his son rival more than his own son.
that twink xq never been the same since fountain release.
Zajef has listed Navia in top 6-7 DPS in Genshin and yet he doesnt have her on his account. What most shocking to me is that he is the last person I'd see having Emilie on their account and yet he has her.
Edit: relax guys!! I meant it as a joke and funny fact. I obviously know why he has Emilie and not Navia. Peace ✌️
Zajef doesn't pull on characters solely base on their power level, but also how many new team options that they open up. Navia basically doesn't open up any new team archetype for Zajef, but Emilie does.
@@alirehman4858 Emilie is more versatile (and is the subdps with the most dmg in the game right now).
Also rmember than you can only use one onfielder, but can use 3 subdps, so subdps always will have more value.
Sad day for an f2p player who lost his 50 on purpose but still doesn’t have enough for kinich raiden banner
just prepare for the power spike, they are making the new character doing ridiculous damage even with no reaction. However one thing I wish for hoyo do in the future is they buff the old character like awaken or something they did in honkai impact 3rd.
How low investment do you need to be for hyperbloom to get your fastest clears. That sentence was wild to me.
In single target, it's still my fastest clearing teams tbh, although it might also because I don't have cons and limited 5s weapons.
low to the point that you put atk% sands and fav sword on alhaitham
Well at keqing mains investment, hyperbloom is only worse than neuvillette and arlechino best teams.
So there's no need for "too low investment".
For example raiden hyperbloom with Baizhu is better than raiden C2 best teams.
@@cleod7439Yeah hyperboom is so strong it make any DPS that's bit Neuvi or Arleccino irrelevant.
Al haitham is an hyperboom driver so I guess he does have that for him.
I finally might be able complete abyss with kinich
While I will never complain about more Furina because she’s my favorite I was slightly disappointed to see how much better my Kinich was with her over Emilie. I hit for 250K first shot in the overworld compared to just 160K with Emilie. I’d say Emilie’s personal damage makes up die it but Furina be hitting crazy vapes too so.
Emilie does not buff him nor enable him in any way, she is just more raw dmg on the team, while Furina's dmg boost does buff him by a lot and makes his personal dmg bigger.
That's the difference you're seeing, Emilie isnt really needed on his teams unless you just want more dmg offield overall.
@@danielguerrero6057Emilee is really only seen so much use because you basically need burning for several new teams, and their isn’t really an off field Dendro that doesn’t also require being swapped in every time a wave is killed like Nahida.
@@nfrance999why would you need more dendro app when emilie is an off-field dendro herself. You’d want off field pyro which we have 3. Just slap deepwood on any other team member
@@nfrance999Why would you need more dendro application when Emilie herself is one and off field too? If you need dendro shred just use deepwood on literally anyone else in that team like thoma dehya and xiangling
@@gaet1893 Sorry, I did a bad job of explaining that this wasn't specifically about the Kinichi team, just that Emilee will see a lot more usage when their are characters that need burning applied/off field pyro, at least until Mauvika (hopefully) brings a new source of usable off field pyro application.
Mualani for example really likes a team like Dehya/XL/Emilee(I use Nahida because I don't have Emilee but the point stands). In this team, the double pyro res doesn't do much for Mualani, but a future team might be something like Mualani/Mauvika/Xilonen/Furina potentially, assuming Mauvika follows the trends of past archons and 100% up time, you might not need dendro to keep pyro app up for a team such as that.
Was saving for Xilonen but blew it all on Saske and having a blast! Meh no team really needs her
I don't have Emilie nor Furina so for now I'm using him in burgeon with Nahida, Thoma and Yelan, pretty fun comp
That's yelan vape, no burgeon.
Banger music
I prefer Furina/Dehya/Bennett than Xianling, Dehya def utility and deepwood set is >>>>
The thing is Dehya can't keep up with Furina's hydro app to keep burning aura on the enemy, nor her pyro coordinated attack hit fast enough to trigger burgeon. Ideally you would want to trigger Kinich A4 passive every 0.8s and Dehya struggles to do that
Deepwood on Dehya is genius, thanks for the tip!
@@domi8499 Yeah you're right that due to Kinich A4 and the pyro that dehya provides in some scenarios it's a bit tight doint 4E, but normally I am able to and in this situation the defensive utility and the 30% dendro res make a huge diff. Although, Dehya's res interruption saved me of lose a lot of E's against aggresive enemies.
I agree Dehya is more comfy but Dehya will never get him 4 E’s per rotation, pyro application is too slow
@@jeffmetal98 but when you play with furina, wouldn't you be getting burgeon here and there?
nice music
W music btw
He was coping bad in this one
Murl Course
Was this recorded in 2013?!
I lost the 50/50 for him to Keqing :( I find him really fun as well.
Might as well save for Xilonen to make my Neuvi stronger
Lilian Forest
Furina is forever
Actually a Venti abyss for once iykyk
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I lost to Freedom Sworn on Mualani's weapon banner. Is it any good on Kazuha?
Just realized wouldn't raiden burst for nahida double hydro hyperbloom be a really good hyperbloom trigger? Has the highest bloom trigger rate and nahida applies 1.5 dendro anyway so shouldn't have aura compatability issues. Even then, it will end up as electrocharged which is still good for making blooms yeah? U dont need to actively build ER on her, just her ascension + ER substats from the 3 EM pieces would be enough
Is worse than basic attack with nahida.
raiden ult animation is too long to be worth only for hyperbloom triggers, and Nahida do more personal dmg on field that what raiden can give with 3 or 4 more hyperblooms per field time.
You can do it, but its just worse.
It's weird having a pretty easy Abyss this time... Those 2 Fatui are the worst part for sure, tho...
It's always pretty easy for the first half of each region's patches tbh. The real annoying stuff usually comes later nearing the end when they've become familiar on which lineups counters whatever meta teams the playerbase comes up with throughout the year
does kinich proc xq rainswords
Yes
yes, he procs everything like that
(except Beidou's burst. it's Raiden situation all over again)
@@k5nz15cause he is doing basic attacks, but not basic attacks dmg.
Beidou needs basics attacks dmg to proc.
@@cleod7439 yep, technically he does E skill dmg
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He should have been named "Gaming" xD
I have a couple of questions about Dehya. How do you build her for this team? HP/HP/HP? What artifact set is best for her? What's her best weapon? I'd appreciate any advice on how to build her.
her best weapon in this team is sac greatsword yes you build full hp and the set you use on her is deepwood so emile can use her best dmg set
the reason you use sac is to bypass deyha cd so she can line up right in kinich dmg rotation she gives off-field pyro application for burning interrupt resistance/dmg reduction and with bennett you get his healing so you are damn near unkillable also do not in this team you never ult on deyha AT ALL
@@TybossMaster Oh thats why she has Sac Greatsword. That was a very complete answer, thanks. One last question, do I need others substats beside HP on her artifacts?
If you have dehya C2 you can skip sac, but her weapons is whatever anyway
@msalgado some em is decent but not something to go out of the way to get
What teammates do you run with Kinish that aren’t Emilie because I don’t have her.
1 offield pyro
youd want two pyro for resonance (+atk), noblesse holder, usually bennet or you can have tankfei
flex slot: offfield hydro for burgeon variant, zhongli for shred and deepwood, baizhu if you want more heals, anything really idk
just wanna say neuvi-furi is possibly the MOST synergistic team in genshin and i hate it. i dont have neuvi T.T
i heard this spiral is easy, but I still cant 3 star 11-3. what do i do wrong? do I have to level up all my team artefact to 20? my artefact level average at 16-18, with good main stat and vary in substats. Or i just need better mechanics?
all my weapons above lv 80, lv 80+ character, and lv 7+ talents
my team :
1. wanderer, bennette c5, kazuha, zhongli
2. gaming c5, furina, charlotte c1, linette c6
Honestly I think I'd use Wanderer in the second half. Use him, Faruzan, Bennett and Zhongli. The enemy moves too fast but Wanderer may be able to attack her more easily than Gaming
Don't use Gaming in the first half since the second wave has pyro resistant enemies. You can use Furina to vaporize off them, though, and you can also add in another hydro unit like Xingqiu, Yelan or Neuvillette. So: Furina + another hydro if you have one built but someone like Fischl or Yae should also work, keep Charlotte for healing, add in Kazuha.
Also, I'd recommend leveling up at least your main carries' artifacts to level 20. It's guaranteed extra stats, unlike substats that depend on RNG. Supports usually don't need fully leveled artifacts as much unless they give buffs based on their stats or if you need more healing/shielding.
It's also recommended to crown or lv 9 your carry's main source of damage. I do that with strong sub DPSes too. Oh and leveling up weapons to 90 is often pretty important if the character's damage is significant. Hope this helps
omg im blooming
do please level 20 your artifact
please use kazuha as a proper support
please use an actual rotation if youre not just playing hyperbloom
How much ER does that XL have omg
Due to buff my mualani hit 400k per bite
14:53 Idk why he plays teams he hates.
I mean he just want to test out Kinich so it doesn’t really matter for the other team so he might as well use an easy to play team that can clear content really fast
Being optimal is a bitch
Coz he test stuff.
He doesn't hate it, he likes it, is just that's unfair that that team he is playing do more dmg than a C2 raiden hypercarry mid max team, for example.
Anyone wanna explain why Dehya > XL on the first set of teams (I honestly don't know her kit at all and am curious, not trying to 'I know better')?
Dehya procs deepwood easier for Kinich and Emilie since XL needs burst to consistently proc it, she provides really nice sustain (Not 100% uptime without sac tho which sucks), XL and Dehya don’t have THAT high of a damage difference too since XL isn’t getting buffed at all by Vape, Emblem, or VV. Dehya also doesn’t have disgustingly terrible energy needs in this team since she never bursts.
@@yanuwwuu Awesome, thanks! What about Thoma? Is there a big difference there between him and Deyha? Appreciate your time and guidance.
@@setcamper Thoma is another good option, but he needs ER for his burst
Why his bennet very low hp, DPS bennet?
Rare 200K hit from Zajef with his 100 CD artifacts?!??!!?!?
Massive 80% skill dmg buff from the abyss blessing.
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what is this mario maker trap music
why zajef doesn't use emilie's skill when she has burst?? could someone please explain me?
bcs after her burst ends an skill "turret" spawn with level 2 already. That's the optimal way of playing her actually, if you can burst every rotation then you should only use her burst
@@viva862 if you skill during burst it bypasses the lvl1 downgrade. its literally free damage and particles
How can you test him properly, because in the Test chamber is annoying to do all the Parkour stuff again
if u find it annoying during test then it should be a red flag to you to not pull.
@@1NabbinatoRno, his trial is just ass
even as someone who only pulled for exploration his skill randomly autotargets anything in the range of an ICBM missile sucks ass sometimes
if you just want to bungee off him you need to hold and aim upwards like a maniac, but during philogliston swap its just scuffed, you just made an enemy
not only that, you cant change target during skill, so if you targeted the wrong guy its just over. his aim during skill hold is also scuffed, and you dont get to choose the next enemy if it swaps after your target died, so its double joever. if you swap off thinking its over you're just taking the L so its triple joever
Lol, zaef in 12.3.1 - etalon of skill issue
that neuvillete is C1 or C0?
c0
this abyss was so easy lmao
>Wanted to try my new Emile Ganyu team
>Going well, the first three guys died fast(
>Pyro gunner appears
I dont know if I care enough to be a tryhard
Dw zajeff iv been tired of bennet and xiangling since like 1.2
Try nilou furina baizhu kinich its so good
finally
How are his non-bennett teams?
really bad
hyperbloom is the only decent one
Nah my Kinich burgeon team feels good and no circle impact. I can hit over 250K in abyss with Furina C1, Thoma EM build and Baizhu on Thrilling Tales. My Kinich is C0R1. My highest hit was 371060 😊
you mean his neuvillete teams
Did they reduced the Abyss difficulty for burning to be viable?
It's not burning is viable, it's more about hitting hitting burning enemies to get damage for Kinich and Emilie. Burning is still sitting at the bottom as a reaction damage. The 80% dmg bonus buff on na and skill in abyss blessing is also carring a lot of natlan dps teams.
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kinich on mobile feels awful ngl
skill issue, I use him on mobile and it's great
Nah he's fine. Just animation locked on his NAs but apart from that, once you get the hang of the logic of how he spins, it's blatantly easy.
I just saw a post on reddit of someone using him with Wanderer on mobile, they weren't complaining.
Yeah I agree, I mainly play on iPad and I tried him multiple times on his trial but still felt not good nor smooth to play.
Mobile players as soon as a character has a different gameplay than the usual characters:
11:44 why did the Maguu Kenki health stopped decreasing for a little while there?
It's switching to his 2nd phase
thats when he is going into his 2nd phase and he cant take dmg in that time
@@Bravo6 thank you!
@@BrightMehr thanks!
Why don't I see Nahida on Kinich and Emilie teams? Is there a more optimal team say Kinich, Emilie, Bennett, Furina (or Xiangling) instead of Nahida?
you don't really care about her dendro app, you don't care about em and Nahida isn't proccing spreads so her damage is very low
@@viva862 makes sense thanks! I have C2 Nahida and I realize that the dendro res shred only applies to Quicken. 😂
I thought that I'm shredding dendro with Nahida when I'm just allowing burning to crit.
Btw, if I have her at c2, do you think she's viable (for crit burns) instead of say Xiangling or Furina?
*I also have C2 Kinich btw, so maybe that'll render Nahida even less optimal
@@hijodelsoldeoriente Nahida can provide as much or even better dendro app than Emilie, and her high EM (while not needed at all) can still provide high tics of burning which isnt a lot but it's still dmg for the team.
@@danielguerrero6057 why would you need a better dendro app for burning team ?
@@danielguerrero6057why would you need high dendro application in burning team ?
Balls
bro is a dendro albedo
????
hardly. he's more like yoimiya if anything if you think about it. you just press skill, do a bunch of the small ranged NAs and then do a big last hit/bang 3-4 times and repeat, with both having a burst that you can just ignore entirely if you want to (or, have to).
only real difference between them is the damage, the type of damage (element and skill damage vs NA damage), ease of use, and most important of all: kinich can *actually hit enemies that are going faster than 1mm/s*
I know who to watch for trash artifact clears of a character
Why is Pyroslinger a problem? I generally don't let Fatui infuse and if they do, they setup burning automatically for Kinich. So I do not see the issue.
they set up burning but they’ll have a massive reduction. the only issue I see is that you’re gonna need to slot in hydro. its also difficult to stop fatui from infusing because kinich’s teams or kinich himslf doesnt stagger them to oblivion so you have to prepare to break the shields.
pyroslinger’s shield isn’t a good thing in general even for kinich’s burning.
For me this was the easiest floor 12 I’ve ever done. Mualani and hu Tao dominate this round with the skill buffs
Glad I pulled Mualani instead of Kinich. Kinich's exploration ability is more useful, but Mualani is so much more satisfying in combat. Not to mention she asks me if I need a surfboard, has a victory pose, a cute dance and a luffy animation. Truly the archon of serotonin
Her rotations are very inconsistent depending on how many enemies there are, not to mention all of her abilities can randomly miss + her teams are absolutely putrid. Dunno man I would have to say she is one of the less satisfying and clunky characters as of late
both of them suck
i still pulled both
just use xingqui vs the pyro fatui sniper?. If you dislike furina that much and like xingqui that much i dont see a problem xd
Currently using kinich with xingqui toma and bennet, Fuck it. full single target. it's not that bad
downvoted for using neuvilette
Me when abyss giving me 80% dmg buff:
Kinich damage looks like absolute trash.
You shouldn't look at this video for damage, I'm dealing 150k + more damage W the same set up reverie set. his kinich build is really trash
@@utaita8214200 crit damage and 70 crit rate is bad? Since when? The heck happened to the game?
@@CodeTetsu set gives 40% cr, kinich ascends crit damage. considering this he doesn't have a good crit (he has roughly 140 CV, which is considered very below average)if you consider he doesn't even have er or atk% to cope with the low cv...(Average cv is 160+ and 180- 200 is good, anything above that is amazing/great)Yeah it's pretty bad. My reverie kinich deals an insane amount of damage compared to this video, the build is really good.
For example I have 85-175 which is like a Better crit than him while the set is giving me 0 crit... Meaning we have similar stats but I'm getting 50% damage from the set+ 18% ATK . Plus I have 40% ATK from stats which is really good.
@@CodeTetsufor Kinich specifically he should be able to hit at least 80% crit rate easily since you don’t have to build a lot anyway with his BIS set. And because of that you should be able to build well over 200 crit damage with his ascension stat, circlet and decent to good rolls on rest of artifacts.
@@utaita8214 That cv is from pure artifacts alone right? That means even if you had 30 cv an artifact that’s only 150 so not even good. That’s outrageous. No wonder I can’t clear anything. The build requirements are crazy.
kinich without emile is not playable Period unless Maviuka release and she does Pyro application well enough to proc burning/burgeon if you're using furina/bennet, bc xiangling doesnt really work that well since her pyronado doesnt hit the enemy while kinich is spining on his E
womp womp, pyronado still hitting fine
Lol, the Emilie bait is so funny.
She doesnt enable him in any way, she is just more raw dmg to the team, the end.
Nahida can provide just as much if not better dendro app, while Dehya, Xianling and Thoma provide enough pyro aura for burning.
Mi Kinich is hitting for 250k to 300k just fine, no Emilie needed.
actual skill issue.
just build thoma or dehya if you don't want to bother with xl.
triple pyro also works if you need er that badly btw
@@moonmaap nope you're wrong~her pyro nado doesnt always hit the enemy when KINICH is doing his E and swinging around but if emile is in the team she can apply dendro application OFF field when theres already pyro on field like bennnet burst, no emile means kinich's best team might be Kinich furina XL bennet but like i said XL's PyroNado doesnt always hit..
@@danielguerrero6057 Nahida does apply dendro off field but emile can do that while buffing kinich and nahida doesnt thats why KINICH EMILE DEYHA BENNET is a thing, and if you dont have EMILE you most likely need Furina for her buff.. zajef's abyss test run already shows you KINICH XL Furina Bennet doesnt work pretty well despite it does work, Clearly can see XL's Burst doesnt hit the enemy sometime when kinich's E spining while XL's Burst off field also spining it doesnt hit..
Why does he always look so depressed and angry.
Just drop the game, holy. But of course he won’t, cause it pays the bills.
...because he may have not slept well, or he's been up for hours, or maybe, just MAYBE, because no one can be forever happy with a perpetual smile on their faces after doing something for longer than 2 fricking months! if you don't like that he's living his damn life then the door's to the right, sir.
@@1Albedo Have you even watched his other videos? He looks so uninterested in the game.
Bro for real needs to drop the game and move on. It brings him no happiness except cash 💰
Other CCs somehow manage to be happier.
@@baguette_connoisseur zajef off genshin is just gonna play more league and you think this is hell to him
People get suprised by a 200k kinich hit while my C0R1 kinich with dogshit reverie set does around 400k first hit and 330k rest of hits... He just obliterate everything and idk how people still say that al-haitham is better 😂 ik that this abyss blessing buffs kinich dmg a lot but the dmg would still be insane without it and by far more dmg overall than al-haitham
You're the type to think eula is stronger than hutao because eula does 300k per burst 😂
You got bait very hard by current Abyss buff.
In normal situation without current stupid abyss buff, his personal damage (with burn) are a bit lower than Al-Haitham (with quicken), while his best team deal around the same damage as Al-haitham quickbloom best team.
The problem is, (almost) no one have Emilie for Kinich while everyone have Nahida for Al-Haitham...
@@saadplays8214 bruh not at all
I have Alhaitham and I don’t really use him for his damage lol
I mostly use him as a cope on field solo dendro in a Hyperbloom team (with a f ton of er) and he work fine there without needing much investment
To me Al haitham can be play in more team and is a good choice for 2nd 5 stars dendro character when you want a good dendro applier when Nahida is busy helping another team
While Kinich is more of a not that versatile carry (and being tied to Bennett doesn’t help much)
Yeah why people hate eula too she did 400k on 1 hit, and arle just 80k per hit, smh (sarcasm)