We Tried Racing Cyclocross | Are MTBers Better Than Roadies?
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- Опубліковано 2 гру 2022
- Rich Payne and @gmbntech presenter Anna Cipullo are most comfortable when fully padded up, riding big enduro bikes and going fast downhill so what on earth are they doing wearing lycra, road helmets and riding CX bikes!? Join the pair as they both attempt to finish a local Cyclocross race in the middle of winter! What could possibly go wrong!?
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Would be fun to set up a course yourself and have a private CX race with as many GCN and GMBN hosts and maybe some guests as you can get. Would be entertaining as CX is probably the biggest equalizer between the two channels. I reckon that would be a fun video.
Anna's enthusiasm and excitement were fun to watch, she was so eager to get on that course!
Agreed! I'd love to see more videos of Anna riding!
Can you tell Anna is a cyclocross fan? 😂 Anna put in a good shift to come 2nd! Strong effort! 🤘
I think cyclocross is a perfect example of why more of us should be multi discipline riders.
For sure! Cyclo-cross is the perfect sport for mountain bikers and roadies to come together!
@@gmbn not to mention the fitness benefit. I think the cadence work and the need for bursts of intense anaerobic strength combine the aspects that both disciplines require
true to that! but i do some little gravel, not cx. but hey, as long as im pedalling, good to go! 🤘
@@gmbn Yes! Pull hard.
Rich looked like he was just cruising, Anna looked like she was in full attack mode from start to finish. Top effort Anna.
Cruising on the outside dying on the inside 😅
Didn't look like he wanted to be there at all. Anna saved this video big time!
Anna worked hard for that podium! Rich and Anna smashed it! 🤘
To me it does not look like that. They are both are putting an effort in and it is quite visible from the body language.
@@davelloyd8454 well, he got a puncture but it looks like he did his best and went full effort at the actual race.
Even i would rather do XC or gravel than CX, i'd also rather just do road biking than CX. i don't want to be lifting and carrying my bike while biking even if it is lightweight. Different strokes for different folks.
I reckon a redemption race may have to be on the cards, CX is a weird beast, I get it and at the same time I don’t. Cheers for all the love peeps, for the stats loving people out there here’s some of my race stats for ya:
Total time - 1hr 9mins
Avg hr - 171
Max hr - 184
Normalised pwr - 390 watts
Calories burnt - 1577
😅
That looks about the "pleasure" of CX. Close to 90-100 HR for nearly an hour. Where else do you get that quality of effort for an hour, with the constant risk of falling/sliding off.
i feel like you might have had this if not for the mechanical. Definitely needs a do-over
Dude, 390NP is no fucking joke… rich bro, let’s see u on a TT bike…
Did you start to enjoy having to hunt for grip by the end, or still just wishing you had a xc? Love your haircut btw
Related to your power, how much do you weight? 390W NP is a superb effort! Also congrats to not being lapped given it was your first race and you've partly done it on flat tire! What was your final result?
I've done a few CX races and found as an MTBer I'd be as fast as anyone through the tricky bits, but as soon as the course opened up or went up hill the roadies would just blast off due to their superior fitness.
Typical roadies! 🤦 At least us mountain bikers can look cool blasting through all the gnarly parts of a course. 😎
Plus the MTBers are bunny hopping the short barriers while the roadies have to get off and run the section
Since the appearance of MTBs, most of us have thought "but I bet an MTB would be faster in a CX race", then we went and tried it, and for most of us, on almost all courses, it simply isn't, whether it is just picking up so much more mud, or not being able to cut through to some grip with those overwide tyres, or just losing out in gearing and windage on the faster stretches.
And there is also the impassable sections in many courses - like stairs and step-climbs. Much easier (and lighter) to carry a proper 'cross bike uphill than most light XC bikes. It really is horses for courses - a CX bike can't really do an MTB course efficiently. I often ride trails on a 'cross bike, even with bigger tires, and you just have to be so careful choosing your line.
I ride light singletrack here on my CX bike with 700c/42mm tires or sometimes 650b/2.1" tires, but still have to be careful about picking my lines even then. That said it is fun, it makes trails that would be boring on a MTB if you have some skill more fun.
How about using a gravel bike with 2.1 inch MTB tires? Lighter and faster gearing than an XC MTB, more tire than a cyclocross bike.
@@sepg5084 It would depend on the "kind" of gravel bike and the actual course and race. It is all a tradeoff when it comes to CX. Some of the twisty technical stuff, a long / slack gravel bike that would be great for bombing down a hill on would not be as good at handling as a more road bike like gravel bike / CX bike, as you would potentially "understeer" into the barrier/ropes if you tried to hold as much speed as someone might on a CX bike. Sometimes there are really off camber areas with turns that on a CX bike you could still pedal through but on a more road bike like gravel bike with a better ability to handle that twisty stuff, you could clip a pedal and wreck if you tried to do that, because the main difference between those more road bike like gravel bikes and a CX bike tends to be a lower BB. Also, although you could ride fat tires at local fun races, you couldn't in competitive ones that actually follow the tire width rules.
Funny timing for this video as I just finished my first cx race 30 minutes ago 🤣
I have a friend who's a roadie and, naturally, we taunt each other about our chosen disciplines. However, we both agree that CX is insane. Fun to watch, but no desire to participate. Loved the vid. Your pain is our entertainment gain.
Hey Jason! That's so true! CX is the perfect cycling discipline for roadies and mountain bikers to enjoy together. Thanks for the support!
A local cyclocross race in the mid 80s was what got me into MTB. There was a race with these newfangled bikes with „fat“ tires and straight bars and they were able to ride up every climb where the CXers had to push. I was sold immediately.
Would like to see Rich ride the same course again on a XC hardtail and his XC full sus for lap time comparisons. He did not look like he was enjoying himself much…
@@StopTheRot now we know that... He doesn't (yet)
@@davelloyd8454 watch this space 😂😂😂
It's all about set up, run some tubular cx tyres and drop the pressures like the pro's and the bike is much faster.
Thanks for the suggestion! We'll have to make this happen! 😂😉
I loved how excited Anna was at the start and she blasted through the field like it was nothing at all. It was kind of like a Jack Russell wanting to go to a dog park to play kind of excited! What a legend! Rich bringing the pain with a puncture again. He just loves punishment.
Great video.
Congrats to both, and kudos to Anna for the podium 😃
Glad you enjoyed this one! It was cool to try something a bit out of the ordinary! Rich and Anna did a great job! 👊
I’ve seen more enthusiasm for my kids eating broccoli than Rich in this video 😂
This is my favourite Ana video. She showed some real personality, especially the low key wanting to crush everyone part. I feel that. I want to see Ana do more racing.
Good effort Anna was really upbeat for the event and done really well... rich on the other hand didn't look happy from start to finish 🤣😂. But I'd be the same on a gravel bike 🙂
The great thing about local CX races is that you can do it on an XC bike too (preferably on a hardtail though). If the CX course has alot of climbs that require dismounting and shouldering the bike then a skinsuit is better than bibs and a top.
I love CX racing - although not done many races. As an mrber your advantage is on the more technical courses, but the roadies will smash you on the flat grassy bits.
The big problem is with mechanicals - a puncture can ruin your whole day. That and it really trashes your bike!
You could see on the climbs. One rider in practice was spinning out and Rich just blew past him. Then they had a group walking up the mud and Rich chooses a different line with more grip to get past them.
They knew that line choice would give them an advantage while admitting that the roadies would fly by them on the straights.
Great vid. Appreciated watching your XC skills on CX bikes and comparing your techniques.
This was fantastic. You definitely need another go at it with proper tire pressure, Richard.
Anna killed it. Good on her! Both of you rode like beasts.
I just ended my cross season in the northeast US with an extremely muddy race this past Saturday. I already miss it.
Definitely bring more of this content! 😃
How about Anna and Rich taking Si around the Three Peaks race next year. Si may say he wouldn't want to do it. But I recon he would if there's a race to be had with GMBN.
I race CX in the winter to keep motivated when the weather turns. Nothing like feeling as though your heart is going to explode (almost 40, and my average heart rate for a CX race is 190, max heart rate is 203 during the races) and your longs burning. Each course is its own thing, some catering more to roadies, some towards mtb. All in good fun!
Also good to see Rich does a proper mount without the stutter step!
Well done, dear Anna!
Lots'a love, cheers, & Mabuhay, from tropical Philippines! #RideOn #KeepBiking
Really good video guys and a superb effort from both of you. Both excellent riders and presenters.
Great film 🎥 really enjoyed watching this 😀 Anna is a machine 💪
Cheers, Richard! For sure! Anna smashed it! 💯🤘
3:18 can I have Anna’s ‘neeooownnnn’ as a ringtone pls? 😂
I just loved Anna's enthusiasm! It really made the episode. Well done.
You both have good energy thanks 👍👍
I saw the world championships there a couple of times in the 90s & even rode the XC course on my cycloX bike (because I had broken my MTB frame on a jump!), including the infamous Pipeline Descent, which I slithered down with locked wheels.
Anyway, that was a great video, Anna's enthusiasm was contagious & made me want to ride CX again. I quickly came to my senses though. Well done Anna. 👏
Stoked to see you two in CX! Anna has mad skills, and hey, the holeshot sprint got her on the podium so kudos! 👊🎉
You and Anna are having a lot of fun on this one
Good effort 👌 Congrats on the Podium, Anna 👍
Can we get Hank and Rich together to do a CX and an XC race
It’s all riding. You need legs, eyes and balance that is all. We have more in common than what divides us.
Well done,Anna! Bad luck for Rich. You both should give it another go!!!
That was a great video, I'm going to watch it again.
That was truly fun to watch. Would like to try some Cross one day
We're stoked you enjoyed this one, Richard! It's well worth a try if you get the chance!
What a fun video to watch!!
Anna did AMAZING!!!
Rich was making it look easy until his tire blew...would have loved to seen his placement had his tire held!!
Anna cannot wait..........Rich cannot hide his reluctance!
CX is the most difficult off-road racing. Short course, body red-lined at max rpm constantly, questionable bike configurations, cold weather - it is a sufferfest. But, some people love that. I'd rather be on a heavy full suspension bike doing wheelies on my favorite trail, than race CX (I'm one and done with my CX career) !!!!
Great stuff guys,Anna well done on your podium,that looked like hard muddy work.
Great video you two! Awesome efforts 👏 way to go!
Glad you enjoyed this one, Sue! Thanks for watching!
Memories of my time spent in uk are linked to the excitement of racing in the central region cx! Liked and missing it! First race was really tough and unique for a mtbiker!
I’ve raced some cx races in the AM on a cross bike then again in the PM on a fat bike. Not a proper xc bike for sure, but was still faster on the cx rig. Depends a lot on the course but generally the time savings on the technical bits will be lost and then some on the flat bits or when forced to carry. Looked like a brutal course! Proper conditions, good work!
good on you for having a go, I never really enjoyed it but it was a good & different winter training when I was a ready, as Richard says would rather swap the letters round nowadays
Cross is my one true love of bike racing. Raced cross for 20 years. My skills were honed mountain biking so mtb'ers definately have the advantage in cross.
Every roadie and mtb cyclist should give CX a try. Different skills, good fun, and maybe a little humbling.
Great video! You both have good dirt riding skills but I feel that was slightly mitigated by running clinchers. A good tubular tire running in the low to mid 20's (1.7 bar) would have really helped in those conditions.
This would make a great GMBN VS GCN challenge or why not add GTN, there's running and if muddy enough swimming as well
More CX please! That was awesome
Give us more CX content 🔥🔥🔥
I would love to see you do this again, but with the GCN team too. Race on.
The slipping and slidding in cyclocross is part of the fun, dude..
I enjoyed that race guys and Anna well done you smashed it, girl 🎉👍🏾
I appreciate when the presenter looks after his ankles.
Great effort to both of you and congrats to Anna. Next invite Alex and Manon to an XC race
Agree! Only fair for the GCN folks to show the other side of the coin
Would indeed be interesting to see how an XC bike would fare on the same course under similar conditions - same two riders, of course! Richard Sachs, one of the pioneers in making high end custom steel road and CX bicycles (now mostly retired) raced CX, and had his own team for quite a while. Enjoyed watching this.
Helped Southern enduro build some trails for march, whilst this was going on at Newnham Park on sunday.
Yes please, more CX and Anna and Rich
Defo looking forward to more torture :) would be v. interesting to see an unofficial comparison of the same course on the XC bike.
Fun episode … More races please 😊
More to come! 🤘
Great video! Loved the race. Thanks for putting the part where I got stuck on the log and rich went past. “See ya” 😂😂
Yes another race! You guys are pretty fit, so go for another for FUN!
I’m enjoying watching cross ! I may try it. More please!!
This video is as close as I'll ever get to riding/racing CX 😜. It was fun to watch though, and great job getting on the podium Anna!
Love Anna's enthusiasm!
Simon? Where are you? More videos like this. Thanks.
Anna looks like she’s done this before! It’s a lot of fun everyone should try it. It’s a very accessible form of racing. In the USA too, you can turn up on a mountain bike, that’s ok for lower categories.
So the organizers of the championship in Munich got it wrong and instead of doing XC, they did CX.
looked like good fun... I did a quick search and in Toronto, CA there seems to be nothing. Time to move to Holland or the UK I suppose.
Should do the next xc at Newnham park. my kids enjoyed seeing both of you from gmbn.
Great video 😃 I've never done this 😳😳maybe someday 😬 Anna is the best ❤
CX over XC, ya gotta be tough, great video
Rich had a look on his face as he just couldn't be arsed 😴 🤣🤣🤣
anna is great and positive... would love to see more cx and xc.
I'd love to see the GMBN team an XC bike go round one of the famous pro CX courses in Belgium. I suspect, especially after a few laps, there'll be parts that are quicker to run than ride. e.g. deep sand up hill or steep steps. At that point the ligher bigger frame on he CX bike would be easier to carry and run with.
Congrats Anna! Well done! Bum luck Rich, but I think with a bike you’re more familiar with you’d have rocked the race too! All in all, very enjoyable episode.
Love Cyclocross! Mix of many skills.
Yeeoo Cx is awesome stoked for your awesome podium Anna.
Love the happy bouncy energy you came with too 🙂🤟
Love your bike washing skills Rich
Am I the only one who wants to see someone bunny hop those board things in a race? 😂
If you watch the pro cyclocross races on GCN / Eurosport you’d see that many riders do bunny hop them
@@MattSwain1 ok thanks for the info
Well done Anna 👋👋👋, great video everyone! I think you should do a GCN Vs GMBN Cyclo-cross race! Anna Vs Manon and Blake/Rich VS Si Richardson and Alex Paton.
Great effort Anna and Rich 👊
Gutted for Rich getting a flat tyre 🙁
Looked like you weren't enjoying it very much Rich was that because of how hard it actually was ? Looked like you were getting on with it pretty well but that's probably just you making it look easy 👊🤘
Same race on your XC bikes next time to see the time differences
Well done Anna and you did exactly what you said on the 1st lap 🤣
Great stuff #GMBN 👍
Thanks for the support, Ross! It was a shame Rich got a puncture, but both of them did so well! 🙌
I think you will find The narrow cross tires cut the mud better then fatter tires. Also WW1 bike messengers was a large push and to keep the roadies adrenal rush up. One of my races, they moved the cows and horses out the day before and wet course.. No open mouth breathers that day.
Guys !! You need to come to Newnham for a bikejor race ! Newnham Bark !!!!!
That was cool to see that. I have been wanting to get a bike for that and try my hand at it. I live in Florida and seen people have to cross small canles with alligators lol.
Nice video, congrats Anna to have a podium. BTW, 12:30 - Rich put bike with Sram Force AXS battery installed in the water. Owner would not be happy :)
I road ride my Canyon Inflite, with different wheels and tires of course. Works great.
CX & XCO are the best 👌
muddy fun well done Anna .tough luck with that puncture Rich
i'd like to see rich try the course on an XC bike and see whether he's really any faster or whether it's just his imagination and he'd still be slower than the competition
In that mud I'd wager the XC bike would be quite a bit slower.
06:47 - LOL until i discovered GCN, GMBN etc. I was so confused about bike disciplines. I knew there was both XC and CX and to me that fact alone just.... kept my mind blown everytime i tried thinking about biking disciplines. Now I understand them properly.
Wait until you find out about fixed wheel grasstrack racing most weekends through the summer at Highland Games across Scotland (and a few races in England...). Handicapped racing means the fastest start last and have the furthest to ride giving a better chance for the slower of us. Oh and of course, no brakes and mud bumps and rain to contend with at times.....
That was fun and a nice change.
if you guys have the onboard full course onboard footage would be interesting
last CX race i went to, the guy having the most fun was on a bit of cult classic, an on-one gimp single speed rigid. My bike was (conveniently) out of commission, but my friend did win her class by virtue of being the only competitor. I say next time take a stripped down XC bike.
It would be cool to see them review the Vittoria Terreno Dry & Mezcal the 33mm CX version & then compare to the 2.1 or 2.25 XC versions.
Love it, need to get the GCN guys to the same event!
My first cross race is this Saturday dont even know which cat to sign up for 😅. Gunna ride my fully rigid xc bike.
Absolutely love vids like these🔥😂😂😂🔥
Anna's clearly a natural CXer. Got the dismount and remount down and flowed through the corners effortlessly. Well done to her and keep at it. Highly impressed.
Rich is class. Exactly how it is.
CX could be like XC if they used natural or proper trails for a course instead of police tape in a wet field . . .
Any chance GMBN can cover cycling commutes on mountain bikes? In eastern Idaho we are in the season where drop bikes disappear to Zwift. ☹️
So weird when youre first doing rides on a 10speed style bike from a MTB perspective, you get a weird posture aggressiveness since you dont wash out or lose grip the same so you feel really fast until it happens the first time. (or you blow a tyre and state "this wouldnt happen on my MTB", which it definitely does) lmao. Great segment!