Exway Flex with Cloudwheels 120mm - Good idea or no?
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- Опубліковано 26 бер 2020
- I tried out the 120mm Cloudwheels on the Exway Flex with some preconceptions and was surprised by the results.
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UPDATE March 31: Exway are making bigger pulleys for improved torque with Cloudwheels! The pulleys in this video are 34T. The new ones will be 44T. You can choose which size to use with your big wheels (smaller for more range, bigger for more torque).
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If you don't have time to watch me flip-flop on how I feel about these wheels for 20 minutes, you can skip to [15:29] for my summary. Hope you're all well and helping to flatten that curve!
Right back at ya. Stay safe
Daniel Kwan too many commercials c’mon man make up your mind!
I actually enjoyed seeing you flip-flop and weigh the pros and cons.
Hey Daniel, long time subscriber also living in Shanghai, where do you usually skate around? And would you recommend the backfire mini for Shanghai streets?
Awesome review, on all types of roads🥰, testing in real condition, gg Daniel!
For some reason the editing and overall execution in this video just felt top-notch, and I really enjoyed it.Thank you!
Stephen Welch very solid 🤙
What’s funny is how indecisive he was at the end. Which is why we like his videos, because of the honesty, experience, and good video quality
4:41 The guy in the background wants a selfie with you but was too shy to ask. :D
I wasn't sure what to expect with this video, but...it's not that bad.
Oh yeah, the detailed video I've been waiting for!
Was thinking of this set up also! Now that iWonder have announced 105mm I think this would be my ideal set up. Stay safe mate. Thanks for the content 🙃
The most hilarious and moronic thing to happen in esk8 recently: ua-cam.com/play/PL4E4pf20o-iOlhQrJNT-VgHByn6UZcoyV.html
Hi Daniel I really love the vibe of your videos, the color grading you use couldn’t be more on point, I’m impress you are getting it from an Osmo Action. Just a super quick question (yes/no works), may I use these wheels with a Flex -Hub?.
Btw I used your code to preorder my new Flex, really appreciated about that.
All the Best
"Not that bad" - Daniel Kwan. When you said "in the end", I half expected an "it doesn't even matter" pun. Good vid mate. 👌
Subliminal message at 9:33, "Wash your hands". Haha nice. And great video! I really want a flex with cloud wheels. Are the newer pullies with more teath for more torque out? And where can i find them for sale??
I just purchased Exway flex with your discount code. +105mm cloud wheels. Wish me luck. I hope I didn't make mistake choosing Flex over Zealot or Verreal RS.
just made the same decision... how's the flex holding up ??
Dan the man ! I was worried about you bro, nice to see your still alive and carving.
Good video mate, and good that you’re back in action. 👍🏼
Do cloud wheels also work on an x1 pro? And if so, do you have an affiliate link to purchase them thru u? (Edit: I see the affiliate link in videos description. Do you have a video with them on a x1 pro riot? Clearance issues?
I’ve heard you get wheelbite unless you add extra modifications
@@skyehansen9684 word. Thanks skye
bridge4 depending on your weight you may have wheel bite.
I’ve never tried Cloudwheels on the X1 Pro because I’m pretty sure they’ll get wheel bite. 96mm on the X1 already bites if you make a sharp turn so pretty sure 120mm isn’t feasible unless you just ride straight.
Good video. I can not believe you rolled the board down the stairs like that 😂
▶️ was thinking about getting 97mm wheels
▶️ good to see that new Merch
▶️shred lights looking good.
It was just a few steps. What was I gonna do, bend down to pick it up? 😆
Daniel Kwan 😂😂🤙no that would be “disgusting”
Whats the highest speed you got with the cloud wheels and how'd it feel?
@@DanielKwan THATS DISGUSTIIING :D
We need Daniel to make a review video of the Exway Flex with 105mm Cloudwheels!
Hey man! Welcome back! We've been waiting for this!
Cool, this review helps me finalize the decision to get the Flex. Thanks D!
Perhaps, to compensate for the lack of braking/acceleration you could switch to bigger wheel pulleys (if they even fit)? It would then definitively eat up a lot more of range, but it would have the same performance.
Those ABEC core pulleys should be easily findable, so switching to a bigger one shouldn't be that hard to find.
Then you might also need to change the belt.
But overall, nice content!
I've done this for a boosted board with 3d printable pulleys, if i can get my hands on a set of exway pulleys i can probably model a set up for that. It definitely helps with the torque, but you do need larger belts and a bit of extra work on fitment.
They just told me they'll make bigger pulleys :) Current ones are 34T. New ones will be 44T.
@@DanielKwan awesome haha, this makes the flex waaay more appealing to me!
Hey Daniel, did you have to remove the grip tape to install the shred lights on the Flex?
I noticed that the grip tape is covering the bolts, which is why I asked.
Thanks!
Another option might be the torque boards 110mm 74a wheels if you’re not really on any dirt roads plus they have a cool icy blue look.
17:50 those people are at the longest traffic light ever. I'm about to put 120mm cloud wheels in my wowgo 3x. So this video is very relevant to me, almost spookily so. Classic DKWAN
Nice idea on washers 👌 I am also using bigger washers between the pulley bearing and wheel bearing (inner side) to avoid contact between bearings and helps to less resistance 👍
Good eye! Not sure how many people caught that. Wasn't my idea actually, they came with the board.
Daniel Kwan yap love to dismantle my boards and looking to ease solutions to minor issues. Making also vids of our rides you can check my YT channel
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BTW great reviews and love to watch them👍
I was second guessing putting 97mm ABEC 11’s but not anymore. Thanks for your input!
I preordered the flex a couple weeks ago and seriously can’t wait until it’s released! I live on a fairly large campus which thankfully has (mostly) paved streets and sidewalks, however due to the virus I’m stuck at home in an urban city with fairly large cracks and not so smooth roads - What wheels would you guys recommend I get? Should I stay stock? Cloud wheels? I’ve used my Regular longboard with Kegels quite a bit and haven’t had toooo many issues (though the comfort isn’t 100%)
xDrago479x you could do cloud wheels or get some large wheels like ABEC 11 they have some 97mm and lather wheels
In your case I would stay stock first and see how that goes. If you can use Kegels on your longboard then you can use the stock 85mm wheels on the Flex.
Welcome back Daniel good to see you healthy and safe😎🤙👌👍👍☝️👈💥
Always fun to watch passive cultural differences between countries. Things that go on behind the recording. I notice folks in China have no issue actively stopping and staring at what you're doing. Heck, even taking pictures of you when you were still and talking. Not something we'd see that often in the US. If so, the first thought would be the person might be a bit off. Thanks for the outline of your experience.
I missed this originally. What is your opinion on how those cloudwheels handle wet conditions like if you hit a wet area on concrete or asphalt, especially in a somewhat sharp turn?
THank you for this video. Your reviews have been extremely informative and insightful. I ordered a new Flex Riot, Cloudwheel combo, spare accessory kit (and bash guards and washers) because of your reviews!
@Rect Gamer shopping is taking forever 😢 but I hear its the same for almost all other manufacturers
Glad you’re back!
I have the same predicament with the ruff stuff wheels; great for riding over poorly paved ground but when it comes to full-on carving action, it is reduced due to elevated deck! Hence why I haven't purchased UK 'Foamies' equivalent..yet. Anyways, I've heard cloud wheels get better with age/use (soften up), so your next ride might feel even better! As always, great video Mr Kwan.
Daniel I finally ordered my first electric skateboard and it is exway flex. Will u test flex with the new 105 mm cloudwheel mb this will be the best solution.
Yeah, I think Daniel makes the best tech product reviews I've ever seen but don't understand why he hasn't done a review of the Exway Flex with the 105mm Cloudwheels!
At the beginning, the voltage is near top end so the regen is gonna be low. When you're at 50%, the brakes are gonna be stronger than when it's 95%.
It might be because I'm considering getting an exway flex with cloudwheels. But I've watched this video 4 times now.
Did you get it
You make the best tech product review videos I've ever seen! Why haven't you done a review of the Exway Flex with the 105mm Cloudwheels?!
Exway all terrain?
Great video thanks was hoping these wheels would fit that means my abec 11s should fit too. Now just have to wait for the preorders to come in. Thanks again
Might want to double check with others that Abec11 wheels do in fact fit Exway's "star-hole" pulleys. They should but I've never tried.
I preorder the Flex and after watching this video, I'm interested in buying the cloud wheels, what else do I need to install these wheels? Never owned an electric skate board so please give detailed response. Thanks in advance.
There’s the star pulley that you have to order off of exway sight for about 25 dollars and with shipping mine came to 37 US dollars.
Ikram Syed you need to order additional pulleys. First you need to make sure you want to put these on your board. You may want another wheel type. Ride the board stock see what you like or dislike. Then decide what you want to change and upgrade.
On Exway's site, get the Riot Wheel Pulley from the Accessories section. You need the "star hole pulley" for the Flex Riot. Those pulleys also fit many other wheels.
Cheers guys, thank you very much
with your video you convinced me, I ordered all today, skate and wheels now I just wait for you to arrive, greetings from Italy
Hey @Daniel Kwan, I was set @ X1 Riot but since I saw your review on the Flex I'm torn between the 2 models. Especially the price point difference is only $100. Please help me decide which will be a better investment for me. This will be my 1st eskate and planning for leisure/city cruisin. I'm 5'6 and 185 lbs. Thank you so much. - Ray
epicgamur the flex
I also ordered the X1 Pro Riot but then found out about the Flex and cancelled my order to order the Flex instead! Haven’t gotten it in yet but I’d also go for the Flex for the comfiness of the flex board and the extra range!
Been watching your videos for quite some time now and enjoying every bits of info about the exway. I have a question tho. Is the Exway X1 Pro Riot be compatible with that wheels? Or will it get any wheel bites? Already a subscriber btw.
They'll bite on the X1 Pro. I've seen a pic of them mounted on an X1 Pro but doesn't look like the board would be able to turn.
Daniel Kwan 120mm is not good. I see. Thanks!
Why don't you mount the back lights like the fronts? I got lights on my boosted mini underneath the deck... they tuck in very well... I just feel like them mounted on top is like a unnecessary obstacle that's totally avoidable. It doesn't bother you with them mounted on top?
What do you do with all the boards you don’t ride
Give or sell to others in Shanghai.
For the average consumer, keep in mind: switching from a 34T to a 44T pulley will affect your top speed, you will not be able to get up to those 30mph anymore, you will top out at around 24-26mph , but you will have an increase in torque and acceleration
FINALLY !! SOMETHING DANIEL : )
so i i ordered an exway board and i live in the united states, would my order still be processed and i would recieve the board? or are things on hold for the foreseeable future? i need an esk8 in my life i would love to kno if i ordered would i have a esk8 shipped on its way to me, or has the covid 19 crisis shut down exway?? thanks for the information, keep it up with the awesome videos with well presented informative material... its hard to do that without sounding boring, u got it down pat!
-p3t3r
p.s. basically im just asking if i bought a board online today, would it be shipped out or are things shut down where exway headquarters is? or maybe its fully automated i have no idea so i wanted to ask you because you seem very well versed in all things exway!
thanks again and god bless, hope you and those close to you are safe and healthy in these times of uncertainty!
-p3t3r
Check their Instagram or Reddit. They list what stock they have in the us warehouse and maybe the one you ordered was in stock
Hands off the exway products (!): The goods were delivered with a defective battery, the board abruptly stops running and can no longer be braked (this is life-threatening).
Currently I argue with the support in endless chats. I would have no claim to intact replacement, since I have driven the board. This is NOT the case, as the battery after the first charge showed the above defects.
Save yourself time and nerves, go to another manufacturer.
Kind Regards
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Hi Great Video....Just have a few questions
What video equipment do you use? Your camera never goes out of focus
I'm a complete beginner to the eskateboarding and escooter world thus have a very basic question....I bought the Exway X1 Pro and some shred lights. Tried to install the lights but it seems I will need to take off the grip tape in order to screw on the lights....is that the only way? I ideally don't want to risk spoiling the grip tape
Hassan Naqvi the grip tape on the Exway boards can be pulled up and placed back down. The cushion grip tape is very think. Just peel it up and when you are done smack it back down. It will stick. Just pull it up enough to reach the bolts.
I list my video equipment in the description. For this one it was really simple, just DJI Osmo Action and a mic.
As for that foam grip tape, just use a hair dryer to loosen the glue (may take a couple minutes or more) and lift the grip tape slowly. Try not to stretch it. Use a blade to cut the glue if it's not moving. It's a very slow process if you want to avoid deforming the grip tape. To put the light mounts on top, poke holes in the grip tape so that the screws can go through.
Hey there Daniel, first off, great videos! You've definitely improved my knowledge of ESK8 boards! I had a question for you or your viewers... I have the Exway Flex and I watched this video awhile back and saw that you mentioned using the "Ride" app with the Exway board. I have not been able to connect the Ride app as it seems to only connect to my Boosted board. Did you do something special to get the Exway to connect to the ride app?
hello, i buy cloudwheels 120d, but belt is to loose.. so u unscrew that 4 screws and tried move motor, but it cant.. how i can adjust belt tention?
Love the contradiction at the end... why not consider getting the 105 sized wheel to have it in between?
The 105 version hadn’t come out when this video was made
Hi Dan, Was wondering how you connected the shred lights to the rear of the flex thank you.
What mounts did you use for the the shred lights on the rear?
The mad 105s seem very promising but im hoping they go up to 120mm.
Can't find info about length of the board. Anyone ?
Pretty sure it's 37"
So how do you compare the ride feel to the ownboard Bamboo GT? Would you prefer to have the double kingpins with these bigger wheels, or the Trist? Between the Flex and Bamboo gt, which has better acceleration and braking?
I prefer these Cloudwheels on the Ownboard BGT more than the Exway. I would not prefer double kingpin with these bigger wheels; in fact I don't think big wheels on double kingpin is a good idea even though it's popular. With Cloudwheels the Ownboard has better acceleration. Brakes I'm not sure - similar I guess.
Thanks for the info Daniel. Sounds like the Flex "can" run these big wheels, but if that's your intention for buying the board you'd be better off getting a board designed to run them instead - aka the flex is better with smaller wheels. Thanks for making these videos. It's always a joy to see you have a new one posted. Also your editing skills continue to impress - love what you're doing :)
Please tell me how you keep your glasses free from fog, I need this nowadays lol
Heat them up. Cold glass fogs easily.
Antifog but there's many kinds.
Ownboard AT over this, or no?!? Or would you consider that an apples to oranges comparison? TIA
How to restore factory settings exway flex.After I upgraded the skateboarding system. FOC controller electric skateboard, the rear wheel will make the sound of boiling water. is this normal? How to solve it? There was no such sound before upgrading the system. Want to restore factory settings.My board is EXWAY FLEX
Quick question: buy Cloud Wheels 105 or 120?
105
I’ve noticed with my cloud wheels sometimes you get more range
What board and compared to what wheels?
Daniel Kwan DIY with a 12s4P I had 100mm urethane AT wheels and then I put the CLOUD WHEELS on it and get more range and more speed 😁🤷♂️
Will the hub be a lot slower compared with the new pulleys they are offering in the future? But, it would end up having lower range correct?
I got the hub because it was quieter and on par comparison with the riot for performance. Did I make the wrong choice?
It looks pretty badass with the wheels and lights
What do you think of this SYL-08 Electric Skateboard? Debating whether to buy it or not.
In 4:41 you say that you had to remove the belt covers. I'm thinking about buying the cloud wheels for the WowGo 3X. The discovery version of the wheels fits perfectly to the 3X's pulleys, but I'm worried that riding without belt covers can be somewhat dangerous because of possibility of some little stones or so could get under the belt. What's your take on that? Would you ever consider it a problem?
You are so high up tho. Time for a drop down board for those biggies. You can have multiple boards man, love your videos.
I highly recommend everybody getting those cloud wheels
Kyle Harvey I’m pretty sure I’m just a little too fat for cloud wheels. I need all the torque I can get 😂
Kyle Harvey they are not for everybody.
Kyle Harvey why so?
I saw that they are making 105mm cloud wheels. That sounds like a good solution. Better torque and braking than 120mm.
Exway will also be releasing bigger pulleys (44T vs 34T). Both sizes will be available for purchase.
Can you also make a video to test the cloud wheels over little puddles since some of my friends told me that the cloud wheels may be more unstable than the original wheels on wet road. Thank you!
but u r a girl though
Are you finding yourself using the flex over the x1 riot? Do you recommend the flex over the x1 riot especially with pricing being so close now?
Brallan Saucedo I think he said the Flex is his favorite board. The flex seems more versatile.
I would generally suggest Flex over X1 Pro. X1 Pro is more of a niche board.
Great videos! Been watching everything you have put up as I’m researching which board to buy.
Exway is selling 120mm and 105mm Cloudwheel kits. Which one would you suggest for city streets?
105
@@DanielKwan Thanks for your videos! Very helpful! I just bought a Exway Flex Riot after I watched your reviews. Now I want to get 105D version of cloud wheels. Some review says you need to adjust the tension of the belt to install 105D cloud wheel if I choose 36T? Any experience on that? Thanks!
I like the 80's music beat :)
Hey man you have video on the X1 pro with backfire wheels, they seem to fit but u'll get wheelbite as u mentioned. Would it be possible to put those backfire wheels on the flex hub motors?
Joris Kootstra I think so but not 100% sure. Don’t have the G3 with me these days.
Nice music, nice review, how are the wheels after breaking in
Really nice informative video, thank you so much! May i know what camera did you used to shoot your rides on the street? 360 cam or action camera (gopro)? Stay safe
I'm watching, guide me! Old man coming back to the skateboard!!
That ad countdown clock... haha
Hi Daniel, I like this video! look forward to watching the next video you were talking about. uh, for the range, is it 20kms or 20 miles? it is said to be 20 miles on the official website.
If you ride like a beginner you might get 20 miles. See my other Exway Flex video for how Exway calculated 20 miles.
@@DanielKwan Just watched it and pre-ordered a flex riot, haha
To change the wheels, do you need the riot kit? Because the hub motors are in the wheels right?
just fyi, the exway app records data, including range and total distance. I have the exway x1 pro, looking at getting either the riot kit or the flex just for the cloud wheels :D Thanks for the vid. I'll have to meditate on this decision some more.
Hey Daniel,
I got the X1 Riot + Cloudwheels and when I try to install the wheels, they don't go into the pulley fully so it left fewer space for me to screw back in the cap screw (I can only get half in, even without the tiny space ring) I tried hammering the wheel into the pulley more but it really doesn't work....have you come across that problem and how would you suggest to fix it? (or half the cap screw in is enough already?)
Much appreciate you help!
Best,
Casper
I can't decide between the Ownboard W2 or the Flex :/ I wish the Flex held up to their claimed 20 mile range. Funny how the Ownboard claims around 15 or so but people are going way past that. Are the components used in the flex much higher quality? It certainly looks better than the W2 but it's such a damn hard decision.
The conclusion is there is no conclusion. lol
I like your videos, bro. Pretty nice quality and great points brought. Keep in this way. Cheers.
I recently changed my boosted V2 into 120D. Breaking is scary slow now! Do u know if Cloud wheel offer bigger pulley to help with that?
Is it possible to change the gear ratio so it works better with the bigger wheels
Hi Daniel I have questions when u install the shred light in the back did you use longer screw to install on the top. When I try to install my shred light doesn’t reach to tighten the screw
I didn’t but I have a preproduction board so my screws might be longer.
Awesome videos DK. What's the biggest wheels the Exway flex could take? The paths / roads around here (UK) suck. If the Exway flex is as good as you claim I might bite the bullet. Just thinking AT wheels might help me. Thanks in advance.
The biggest I’ve tried is these 120mm Cloudwheels.
How did you get the shred lights on? Did you lift the grip tape then make holes for the screws?
Bigger wheels makes the e-board look much cooler in my opinion.
ok thank you very much i have just seen the wowgo 3 x longboard from the data similar to the xway pro riot. The price is also quite similar. You have already tested both what would you miss more wowgo 3x or xwax pro (riot).
Is this the best option if you just want a smooth ride?
what wheels do you think will be better for this board?
Depends what you want to do
What kind of electric skateboard u recommend that has a mix of flexy & a stiff board
Hey are you in Taiwan? China?
This video was in Shanghai
Now exway released their own cloudwheels, is the wheel option for the bigger sizes already available in the app too or do you know when they will add it? I don’t see it in the app but it could be because I don’t have a board connected yet, waiting for shipping. Also considering getting the Exway 120mm cloud wheels hence my question.
exway messaged me a few weeks ago and they are still implementing the wheel options for cloud wheels. i did so much research last night and this morning and purchased the 105mm. their new core version is definitely improved. there is a stress test done to their new version and im happy about that
Hopefully you come to NYC to ride with us one day. You'd do well out here.
Can we get a quick video or something about cloud wheels with X1 pro riot. I just got my cloud wheels and they don’t fit my X1 pro riot
What brand are the cloud wheels? On amazon there is iwonder, motion, slick revolution, and a few others. I have a evolve carbon GTR 32T street set up and I was wondering if the cloud wheels will slap right on regardless of brand or would I have to change my pulley and use different belt covers. Any help would be appreciated thanks everyone
9:33, cant ride in the street? What country is this?
was it difficult to put the wheels on? could u put up a video of how u put it on? AWESOME videos as always
It's easy. You'd be able to figure it out. Or watch that part of this video in slow motion.