Good vid. Helped me install my GG trigger without any issues. I'm very pleased with the result. Finally an acceptable trigger on what is supposed to be a competition gun (mine's the X5 Legion).
Artisan Custom woodcraft I’m not sure which you are referring to but this video is a little bit old. Currently I’m running Armory Craft dual adjustable triggers in all my Sigs.
Outstanding install video - Don't have a Sig yet, doing research. I have watched a lot of install videos for various systems and this one is a 10+. No BS, just a concise well presented video. Going to keep a link to it. I will say the install is more complex than installing an Apex forward set into an M&P - that I have done. I fail to understand how anyone could give this video a thumbs down. Some people?
Thank you for the compliment sir. Although pretty involved it is pretty straight forward. Once you’ve done it a couple times it’s relatively easy. One of the reasons I make these videos is to encourage people to try it themselves. If it was something that was going to be a shit show I wouldn’t make these videos encouraging people to do it. There’s really nothing you can break so as long as you have patience it’s completely doable. You’ve got this! 🤙🏼
Just got the Wilson Combat grip module and now I just ordered the Grey Guns competition trigger kit. So when it comes in I'll be using your video. Thanks SSG
Quick question. What would you suggest for guide rod and recoil spring for compact/carry? I have the factory right now, but I want to try to reduce the muzzle flip. Thanks
Fwiw, in reassembly with the competition Trigger kit I had to put the trigger bar spring in the trigger bar, follow other steps and insert the trigger bar in the sear bar... then insert the trigger bar spring 'other end'...…. as there simply wasn't enough room/travel in the trigger shoe lob mold and pivot point for the trigger bar to lay flat, the trigger shoe to fit entirely. The standard Trigger shoe that came with the X5 has a lot more space/play travel between the 'lob' and pivot pin.I'm just glad I didn't ruin the trigger bar spring twisting it about-waiting until later to insert the not trigger bar end of the spring.Thanks for the video.
YO,you got a new SUB Bro! love my p320 and more than thnat i love working on them!!! trying to get in to AGIrite now but may go with a cheaper course like ashmore or something! you do a great job! Thanks Bro!
@@SigGuy No problem! I appreciate the knowledge! i want a p320 like your camo one! but my wife about nutted me when even a grip module showed up in the mail last week!....LOL..... WWEEEHHHWWW she looks at me like im a big kid ordering toys!!.....LOL.... Maybe i am!!
Can't wait for my Grayguns P320 X Compact Sniper Gray frame to ship out tomorrow, they should really give you discounts on the product they sell if you don't get 1 already.
Thank you very much for the compliment sir. This video is old however and I do not use or promote any Gray Guns products anymore. Good luck with your purchase. Their laser etcher Adam does excellent work.
@@MikeKraemer87 my suggestion for ANY SIG is an Armory Craft trigger. They simply can’t be beat in functionality and looks. Being ably to adjust to individual needs is awesome.
Bryan DuChane that block is pretty sweet. Because all my modules are cerakoted removal of fcu and TD lever are a pain sometimes not anymore. Best thing..... no worries about scratches!!
So, your favorite X5 with the Apex trigger, what parts did you change, just installing the Apex trigger and trigger bar or was there more to it? And what did you get for a pull weight with the Apex trigger? Thank you
Question: Have you tried the Competition Kit with the standard trigger reinstalled? That is, Keep all the rest of the modifications of the competition kit while reinstalling the original trigger. I was just curious. I have found that I am not the biggest fan of the flat face and was looking at the original trigger wondering if there would be anything unsafe about using it now that the rest of the kit has been installed. Thoughts?
Hi Sig Gut!. you are doing a great job. Could you tell me if it makes sense to install apex bar kit or grayguns trigger kit to sig sauer x five legion? will there be a noticeable difference?
Dont know if anyone gives a damn but if you guys are stoned like me atm you can watch all of the latest series on instaflixxer. Have been binge watching with my gf for the last weeks xD
Thanks for this great video. Made life a lot easier putting the new trigger in, but my kit didn't have the stop tube and I'm wondering if the changed the kits a bit?
mimics the spongy-mush stock trigger, a difference you wont notice when shooting in competition. Now, the Sig Armorer trigger does make a noticeable difference.
Man killer video and we appreciate it. But ya left out the best part. What was the second trigger you showed. That looks much more like what I want. I have the grey and I HATE the creep in it. Thanks for any info!!!
Thank you very much for the compliment. This is an old video. There wasn’t many choices back then. Now there are tons. They trigger is the Keres. Was my favorite until it wore out. Made of an aluminum alloy. Armory Craft has a steel trigger. Dual adjustable. Reduced pull weight also like the legion trigger. Best of all worlds. It’s currently my favorite and is in all my 320s. They are also available on sigguy.com if you are interested in trying one. Thank you for your support.
Excellent video. On the trigger you do like with the shorter take up and break, does it eliminate the striker safety? I imagine it does if the pretravel is reduced significantly. Is that a sig armorers trigger?
This is probably my least favorite trigger. The trigger pull length is very long in comparison to all the others. This video was also made prior to Armory Craft dual adjustable trigger even being produced. The Armory Craft trigger is my favorite and is in almost every one of my SIG Sauer pistols.
@@SigGuy so the armory trigger is even better! I currently have the apex forward set flat trigger and it’s a huge disappointment. I have their trigger on my M&p and it’s awesome. On the p320 it’s giving me 5.5-5.9# trigger! What a huge let down I emailed apex hopefully they have a solution
@@Blackhawk556. I 1 million percent agree. This video was made before AC even had a 320 trigger though. Now ALL my SIGs have AC triggers. They do not disappoint!
@@SigGuy what kind of trigger pull weight can I expect with the AC trigger and stock intervals?? Does the AC trigger not reduce pull weight? Or does it only reduce pre travel, over travel, creep and stuff like that?
Just installed the Greyguns comp trigger on my X-Five. The trigger itself rattled a bit and it’s pretty noisy with that over stop tube. The trigger pull is lighter and breaks very nicely. The reset is about the same to me but the pull is much improved. Took about 15 mins.
What trigger is in the fde version that has a really short take up? That looks to be what I want. I heard good things about the gray guns kit but doesn’t seem to be enough improvement from factory to fork out that money.
Do hope you see this. Just purchased my first Sig. What was the trigger on the tan sig in the end of the video? Also, do you have a fb page? Thanks these are great videos.
Hello sir. The trigger in the tan pistol is the kit from Alex. Also this video is old. There is a new trigger that is better than all of these. It’s made by Armory Craft. I believe I have a couple videos about it on this channel. I will post a link to my website if you’re interested in purchasing one. Also my business Facebook page is Sig Guy. My personal page is Eric Shunn. Thank you sir. sigguy.com/collections/armory-craft-products/products/armory-craft-p320-dual-adjustable-flat-trigger
I don’t use Gray Guns products anymore. Armory Craft triggers are superior in every way. To answer your question though it’s my understanding that Gray Guns doesn’t recommend mixing and matching their kits with any other manufacturers products.
What trigger set up do you have in the second pistol you showed, the one with very little take up and short reset. That's what i am looking for. Thank you
Bill J that is a combination of the Sig Armorer competition level action job and the Keres pro adjustable trigger. There is a new trigger out there will do this better Armory Craft dual adjustable trigger. It also lowers pull weight by 30%.
Sig Guy do you still recommend that action job in addition to the Armory Craft Dual Adjustable trigger or will said trigger achieve shorter take up and reset? I’m looking for the most crisp trigger I can find for my x five.
Mike Kostecki at 13:00 I am installing the over travel stop tube. The Gray Guns kit comes with the tube but not a spring. The spring is not included in the Gray Guns kit. Unnecessary.
Mike Kostecki the apex over travel stop tube is narrower than the GG tube. The apex spring just keeps it from flopping from side to side on the pin. Because the GG tube is the whole width of the pin no spring is needed.
May I kindly ask what trigger kit you have in that other gun with the very short trigger pull, and very short reset? That is the one I want to try. Thank you very much!
This video is very old and most of the triggers available now weren't even available back then. The trigger you are referencing is the Keres trigger. Armory Craft makes a trigger now which is the one I use an would recommend If you want a trigger like you are referencing.
@@SigGuy Thank you. Wish I had known that before I bought 3 Grayguns trigger kits. If they don't work out, I will immediately get myself thr Armory Craft trigger kit. Thanks again. Very much appreciated. Your videos are simply stellar.
So my grey guns trigger does not interface with the trigger bar the way yours did. this makes it impossible to use the trigger bar spring/trigger bar rotation re-install technique that you used in your video. Any ideas or suggestions on how to not absolutely destroy the trigger bar reset spring when re-assembling, with the trigger bar and trigger connected? or is there a trigger bar that is a better option for the newer grey guns adjustable trigger?
SSG - would you take the GG kit over Apex? I’ve seen a few of your videos and was ready to get the Apex kit. Also see on the forums that the comp GG kit can provide an adjustable setting for trigger pull. Would you ever use that for range/carry?
I don’t like GG products. First choice currently would be AC trigger then Apex kit. This video was made before AC trigger was developed. The adjustment for the GG trigger is for the over travel only. Other than that the trigger is similar to stock. The ac trigger has adjustment for pretravel, overtrevel and also reduces pull weight by 30%.
Thanks SSG - another question based on what I saw today: are you familiar with Keres Dynamics trigger for pre- and post-travel? This looks like something that could only be used in competition. I’m all for limiting travel, but I’m not too sure I’d like to have something with adjustments that tight. Your opinion is appreciated!
bob holloway I used the Keres for quite some time. It’s made from a softer aluminum though. Didn’t hold up very well. AC has the same adjustability, is made from solid steel AND reduces pull weight. Keres doesn’t reduce pull weight.
MrMcGibblets I get my grip module work done by 313 Tactical. If you’re getting an X5 you’re gonna wanna keep the original barrel in that. There is a far superior barrel. I got my threaded barrels from Faxon.
Does anyone know if you can use this trigger kit and still utilize the OEM Skeletonized trigger shoe? I have a spectre comp and want to keep the look of the factory gold trigger.
This video is extremely old and there are far better options now available. My favorite combination is the AC dual adjustable trigger used with The Sig Armorer C.O.R.E. kit. Amazing.
It seems Gray Guns changed this kit and the new trigger design won't install as easily as shown in this vid which is of the older model. Curious if anyone knows the trick to install the spring after seating the trigger. I ended up bending the competition spring and had to instead use the intermediate one.
@@nolatone it’s not that incredible. This kit by the Sig Armorer blows the GG kit out of the water. Combine it with the AC dual adjustable trigger and you can’t get any better www.sigguy.com/product-page/the-sig-armorer-p320-competition-level-action-job-kit
The competition level action job from the Sig Armorer? That’s a sweet feeling trigger. Armory Craft is coming out with a dual adjustable trigger. THAT one is pretty sick also.
Keres. I would recommend Armory Craft instead. Made of steel instead of soft aluminum and it reduces pull weight by 30% In non legion 320s. I have them on my website here.... sigguy.com/shop-%2F-products/ols/products/sig-sauer-p320-dual-adjustable-flat-trigger
Yes sir. All P320 FCUs are the same. I would recommend the Armory Craft Trigger over this one though. This video is a little bit old and the AC trigger wasn’t even made at the time of this video.
This video is old and other options have come available since. My favorite setup in use now in all my 320s is The Sig Armorer competition level action job AND the Armory Craft dual adjustable trigger. Amazing. As far as just a drop in option Armory Craft hands-down. I have their triggers in every single one of my Sig pistols now.
That was the Keres trigger. Didn’t last very long. Made from a softer material. Aluminum or something. This was pre Armory Craft. I recommend AC For the same trigger type pull plus it reused pull weight on non legion 320s. I sell several different triggers on my website. Sigguy.Com
Benjamin Lineberry At that time I preferred the SIG Armorers competition level action job with the Keres Pro adjustable trigger. Armory Craft is coming out with their trigger here shortly which is dual adjustable and made of solid steel. With their skeletonize signature look. It should be right at the top!
Great video - thank you! I'm looking for a trigger upgrade for the X5 legion, and the GG system is disappointing in terms of creep and reset reduction. (I suspect reset strength also isn't any better than stock.) You mentioned the Sig Armorer's Comp Level action job with Keres Pro adjustable trigger was what's in the tan gun... that looked MUCH better. Is that still what you'd recommend, or better to wait for the Armory Craft dual adjustable system?
DVC Performance haha. You pay attention sir. Wait until tomorrow or the next day. MAYBE an announcement is gonna be made. 😉 You are correct. GG blows. Not even gonna sugar coat it. The new hybrid system is just as bad. The big new improvement on there is the added in over travel stop screw. With their original kit there was almost no over travel to begin with. So the trigger pre-travel is crazy long, creep his long and reset his long. Not my favorite. It is a light trigger but like I said wait until tomorrow or the next day. I spend the last 2 days getting data on something new. You’re gonna love it.
That was a Keres trigger. Now AC makes a much better dual adjustable trigger that also reduces trigger pull weight. Available on sigguy.com of you are interested.
Nah this video isnt it. Ive been trying to install this trigger for 3 hours. My trigger only will fit into the FCU a specific way and how youve set the trigger bar behind the sear the angle wont fit at alllllll. Ill wait until im finished for the edit smfgdh
There are some older trigger designs that require you to install the trigger and trigger bar together FIRST. Put the trigger bar into proper position at the sear end. THEN attach the trigger bar spring.
Excellent video!!!
I could actually see what you were doing, and I appreciate the little tips & tricks you shared.
Thank you for posting this🇺🇸
skwerldeath Thanks for the great compliment. Im glad it was useful for you! Really appreciate great feedback. Makes it all worth it.
Thank you. You broke down a fairly complex trigger upgrade to smaller easily executable steps. Awesome video and quality of production.
Good vid. Helped me install my GG trigger without any issues. I'm very pleased with the result. Finally an acceptable trigger on what is supposed to be a competition gun (mine's the X5 Legion).
I've done one of these but this video is, by far, the BEST that I have seen!
Thank you very much for the compliment sir.
Thank you very much sir. I appreciate the compliment.
Excellent video, thank you for taking the time to be so detailed.
Scsu74 thank you for the compliment. I really appreciate it.
The best gray sig trigger upgrade video yet. Very thorough!! Thanks
Thank you sir!
@@SigGuy who makes the trigger on you other Sig ? I really like it!
Artisan Custom woodcraft I’m not sure which you are referring to but this video is a little bit old. Currently I’m running Armory Craft dual adjustable triggers in all my Sigs.
Outstanding install video - Don't have a Sig yet, doing research. I have watched a lot of install videos for various systems and this one is a 10+. No BS, just a concise well presented video. Going to keep a link to it. I will say the install is more complex than installing an Apex forward set into an M&P - that I have done. I fail to understand how anyone could give this video a thumbs down. Some people?
Thank you for the compliment sir. Although pretty involved it is pretty straight forward. Once you’ve done it a couple times it’s relatively easy. One of the reasons I make these videos is to encourage people to try it themselves. If it was something that was going to be a shit show I wouldn’t make these videos encouraging people to do it. There’s really nothing you can break so as long as you have patience it’s completely doable. You’ve got this! 🤙🏼
very nice job on the video -made installing this kit in my 320x compact real easy. thx
Just got the Wilson Combat grip module and now I just ordered the Grey Guns competition trigger kit. So when it comes in I'll be using your video. Thanks SSG
You’ve got this!! 🤙🏼
@@SigGuy I got it installed. Very easy to do but mine had the extra spring at the safety block. Man this trigger is absolutely smooth and light!
Quick question. What would you suggest for guide rod and recoil spring for compact/carry? I have the factory right now, but I want to try to reduce the muzzle flip. Thanks
Allen Richards All mine are full size so I’m not sure about the compact. Check out DPM. They might have what you’re looking for.
I agree with your taste, the spongy trigger is a big No Likey! The Sig Armorer's comp job is what I went with and couldn't be happier.
Fwiw, in reassembly with the competition Trigger kit I had to put the trigger bar spring in the trigger bar, follow other steps and insert the trigger bar in the sear bar... then insert the trigger bar spring 'other end'...…. as there simply wasn't enough room/travel in the trigger shoe lob mold and pivot point for the trigger bar to lay flat, the trigger shoe to fit entirely. The standard Trigger shoe that came with the X5 has a lot more space/play travel between the 'lob' and pivot pin.I'm just glad I didn't ruin the trigger bar spring twisting it about-waiting until later to insert the not trigger bar end of the spring.Thanks for the video.
Fantastic video by the way... Thank You for sharing..! 👍🍻🇺🇸
great job! You helped me with this video...Thank
you
YO,you got a new SUB Bro! love my p320 and more than thnat i love working on them!!! trying to get in to AGIrite now but may go with a cheaper course like ashmore or something! you do a great job! Thanks Bro!
lonny wells appreciate the compliment sir. Thank you!
@@SigGuy No problem! I appreciate the knowledge! i want a p320 like your camo one! but my wife about nutted me when even a grip module showed up in the mail last week!....LOL..... WWEEEHHHWWW
she looks at me like im a big kid ordering toys!!.....LOL.... Maybe i am!!
Like a pro! Big help.... thanks
Awesome Video! Great job!!!
Thanks for the information!
Great detail. Thank you.
Such a great video wow. Appreciate the stock vs gg trigger stats
Can't wait for my Grayguns P320 X Compact Sniper Gray frame to ship out tomorrow, they should really give you discounts on the product they sell if you don't get 1 already.
Thank you very much for the compliment sir. This video is old however and I do not use or promote any Gray Guns products anymore. Good luck with your purchase. Their laser etcher Adam does excellent work.
@@SigGuy What trigger would you suggest now days for an m18?
@@MikeKraemer87 my suggestion for ANY SIG is an Armory Craft trigger. They simply can’t be beat in functionality and looks. Being ably to adjust to individual needs is awesome.
Just used this video to do the install of the GG Comp kit. Thank you.
Holy crap what a difference from the shitty stock trigger on my X5.
What trigger setup did you have in your last gun on the Video is that achievable with the p320 Max
Love the armors block. Wish it was available for more pistols.
Bryan DuChane that block is pretty sweet. Because all my modules are cerakoted removal of fcu and TD lever are a pain sometimes not anymore. Best thing..... no worries about scratches!!
Bryan DuChane I got mine from 313 tactical.
Where can I buy a block like that I'm a little disabled but like to do things on my own!
Adan Saenz www.thesigarmorer.com/product/p320-access-tool/
@@SigGuy just ordered one... thanks
You showed your other gun with shorter trigger pull and reset which I would prefer. What trigger kit was in your other gun?
Was there an answer to this?
Also have the same question@@betorodriguez9725
Keres
Thanks. was very helpful !
nice job on video , thanks for this!!
Thank you!!!!
So, your favorite X5 with the Apex trigger, what parts did you change, just installing the Apex trigger and trigger bar or was there more to it? And what did you get for a pull weight with the Apex trigger? Thank you
hammercrg I believe my favorite at the time of these videos was The Sig Armorer competition level action job with the Keres Pro adjustable trigger.
Do you have an updated video for the new style GG trigger? Thanks for all your helpful videos.
Question: Have you tried the Competition Kit with the standard trigger reinstalled? That is, Keep all the rest of the modifications of the competition kit while reinstalling the original trigger. I was just curious. I have found that I am not the biggest fan of the flat face and was looking at the original trigger wondering if there would be anything unsafe about using it now that the rest of the kit has been installed. Thoughts?
I like that sig block tool. Would this kit be similar to the Wilson Combat action tune?
Hi Sig Gut!. you are doing a great job. Could you tell me if it makes sense to install apex bar kit or grayguns trigger kit to sig sauer x five legion? will there be a noticeable difference?
hi! whats that seconf trigger on your X5? looks like something i wanna get
so good, thank you
Dont know if anyone gives a damn but if you guys are stoned like me atm you can watch all of the latest series on instaflixxer. Have been binge watching with my gf for the last weeks xD
@Boston Killian definitely, have been using instaflixxer for months myself :)
@Boston Killian Yup, have been using instaflixxer for since november myself =)
Thanks for this great video. Made life a lot easier putting the new trigger in, but my kit didn't have the stop tube and I'm wondering if the changed the kits a bit?
I'm not sure. I don't use the Gray Guns kits anymore. I would recommend contacting them and asking if one is supposed to be in the kit you received.
@@SigGuy what do you use now? Something better?
@@Aphabet21 I use the Armory Craft dual adjustable triggers in all my SIG pistols. 1,000,000% better.
mimics the spongy-mush stock trigger, a difference you wont notice when shooting in competition. Now, the Sig Armorer trigger does make a noticeable difference.
What trigger is in the other pistol that u said u prefer? Great video btw made install super easy
Man killer video and we appreciate it. But ya left out the best part. What was the second trigger you showed. That looks much more like what I want. I have the grey and I HATE the creep in it. Thanks for any info!!!
Thank you very much for the compliment. This is an old video. There wasn’t many choices back then. Now there are tons. They trigger is the Keres. Was my favorite until it wore out. Made of an aluminum alloy. Armory Craft has a steel trigger. Dual adjustable. Reduced pull weight also like the legion trigger. Best of all worlds. It’s currently my favorite and is in all my 320s. They are also available on sigguy.com if you are interested in trying one. Thank you for your support.
So put back in stock trigger and eliminate creep , with performance kit ... ? Just did same thing with gg trigger ... just wondering ?
Excellent video. On the trigger you do like with the shorter take up and break, does it eliminate the striker safety? I imagine it does if the pretravel is reduced significantly. Is that a sig armorers trigger?
This is probably my least favorite trigger. The trigger pull length is very long in comparison to all the others. This video was also made prior to Armory Craft dual adjustable trigger even being produced. The Armory Craft trigger is my favorite and is in almost every one of my SIG Sauer pistols.
@@SigGuy so the armory trigger is even better! I currently have the apex forward set flat trigger and it’s a huge disappointment. I have their trigger on my M&p and it’s awesome. On the p320 it’s giving me 5.5-5.9# trigger! What a huge let down
I emailed apex hopefully they have a solution
@@Blackhawk556. I 1 million percent agree. This video was made before AC even had a 320 trigger though. Now ALL my SIGs have AC triggers. They do not disappoint!
@@SigGuy what kind of trigger pull weight can I expect with the AC trigger and stock intervals?? Does the AC trigger not reduce pull weight? Or does it only reduce pre travel, over travel, creep and stuff like that?
Just installed the Greyguns comp trigger on my X-Five. The trigger itself rattled a bit and it’s pretty noisy with that over stop tube. The trigger pull is lighter and breaks very nicely. The reset is about the same to me but the pull is much improved. Took about 15 mins.
Great video! Can you please tell me if that trigger system will fit the p320 xcompact? Thanks!
Howard Johnson all triggers will fit the xcompact as the FCUs are the same in all P320s
What trigger is in the fde version that has a really short take up? That looks to be what I want. I heard good things about the gray guns kit but doesn’t seem to be enough improvement from factory to fork out that money.
Do hope you see this. Just purchased my first Sig. What was the trigger on the tan sig in the end of the video? Also, do you have a fb page? Thanks these are great videos.
Hello sir. The trigger in the tan pistol is the kit from Alex. Also this video is old. There is a new trigger that is better than all of these. It’s made by Armory Craft. I believe I have a couple videos about it on this channel. I will post a link to my website if you’re interested in purchasing one. Also my business Facebook page is Sig Guy. My personal page is Eric Shunn. Thank you sir. sigguy.com/collections/armory-craft-products/products/armory-craft-p320-dual-adjustable-flat-trigger
What kind of sights are you using to co-witness with the Leupold Deltapoint? Thank you.
Ozzy G that’s a Romeo1 and I use Dawson sights.
Do you know if the gray guns trigger kit work with the thumb safety that's on the m17/m18 models?
Not sure. I don’t use their products. It’s best to ask them directly. Thank you.
Would you say this is an upgrade over the sig custom shop FCU? And is it compatible?
Do you need to use the GrayGuns trigger shoe or can you keep and use the Sig trigger shoe..? Cheers
I don’t use Gray Guns products anymore. Armory Craft triggers are superior in every way. To answer your question though it’s my understanding that Gray Guns doesn’t recommend mixing and matching their kits with any other manufacturers products.
What trigger set up do you have in the second pistol you showed, the one with very little take up and short reset. That's what i am looking for. Thank you
Bill J that is a combination of the Sig Armorer competition level action job and the Keres pro adjustable trigger. There is a new trigger out there will do this better Armory Craft dual adjustable trigger. It also lowers pull weight by 30%.
@@SigGuy Thank you!
Sig Guy do you still recommend that action job in addition to the Armory Craft Dual Adjustable trigger or will said trigger achieve shorter take up and reset? I’m looking for the most crisp trigger I can find for my x five.
@@SigGuy thanks for the great vid !
What was the trigger on the black/fde gun you showed at the end?
Great video. In a different video, you showed installing a small spring with the over travel tube. It was missing in this video. Just wondering why?
Mike Kostecki at 13:00 I am installing the over travel stop tube. The Gray Guns kit comes with the tube but not a spring. The spring is not included in the Gray Guns kit. Unnecessary.
Ok but why then isn't it needed here but needed in the other video? @@SigGuy
Mike Kostecki the apex over travel stop tube is narrower than the GG tube. The apex spring just keeps it from flopping from side to side on the pin. Because the GG tube is the whole width of the pin no spring is needed.
Thanks for the clarification. Really like the clarity and step by step in your videos. I try to watch as many as I can. @@SigGuy
The GG kit doesn’t use the same parts as Apex. Different designs to achieve the same principles.
May I kindly ask what trigger kit you have in that other gun with the very short trigger pull, and very short reset? That is the one I want to try. Thank you very much!
This video is very old and most of the triggers available now weren't even available back then. The trigger you are referencing is the Keres trigger. Armory Craft makes a trigger now which is the one I use an would recommend If you want a trigger like you are referencing.
@@SigGuy Thank you. Wish I had known that before I bought 3 Grayguns trigger kits. If they don't work out, I will immediately get myself thr Armory Craft trigger kit. Thanks again. Very much appreciated.
Your videos are simply stellar.
May I ask what's the trigger in the end of the vid? I'm looking for a trigger with short travel.
Hey, is possible to install grayguns adjustable flat trigger? Im asking because this trigger have different design
Is that a full size frame on an Xcarry frame? Great set up.
Yes sir. Full size slide with xcarry grip module. Thank you.
So my grey guns trigger does not interface with the trigger bar the way yours did. this makes it impossible to use the trigger bar spring/trigger bar rotation re-install technique that you used in your video. Any ideas or suggestions on how to not absolutely destroy the trigger bar reset spring when re-assembling, with the trigger bar and trigger connected? or is there a trigger bar that is a better option for the newer grey guns adjustable trigger?
put it in place place without the spring and install spring after its lines up
SSG - would you take the GG kit over Apex? I’ve seen a few of your videos and was ready to get the Apex kit. Also see on the forums that the comp GG kit can provide an adjustable setting for trigger pull. Would you ever use that for range/carry?
I don’t like GG products. First choice currently would be AC trigger then Apex kit. This video was made before AC trigger was developed. The adjustment for the GG trigger is for the over travel only. Other than that the trigger is similar to stock. The ac trigger has adjustment for pretravel, overtrevel and also reduces pull weight by 30%.
Thanks SSG - another question based on what I saw today: are you familiar with Keres Dynamics trigger for pre- and post-travel? This looks like something that could only be used in competition. I’m all for limiting travel, but I’m not too sure I’d like to have something with adjustments that tight. Your opinion is appreciated!
bob holloway I used the Keres for quite some time. It’s made from a softer aluminum though. Didn’t hold up very well. AC has the same adjustability, is made from solid steel AND reduces pull weight. Keres doesn’t reduce pull weight.
Hopefully last question - I can’t find anything called “AC”. Who’s the manufacturer? Thanks!
OK - I think I got it - Armory Craft.
Where did you get the threaded barrel and the stipling done? I’m bout to pick up an x 5 and am looking for options
MrMcGibblets I get my grip module work done by 313 Tactical. If you’re getting an X5 you’re gonna wanna keep the original barrel in that. There is a far superior barrel. I got my threaded barrels from Faxon.
Sig Sauer Guy thank you!!
Does anyone know if you can use this trigger kit and still utilize the OEM Skeletonized trigger shoe? I have a spectre comp and want to keep the look of the factory gold trigger.
What was the trigger that he said was his favorite?
love the pistol grip..... how can i persuit one???
gilly g I get all my grip work through 313 tactical.
What's the difference between the intermediate kit vs the competition springs?
What trigger kit was in the fde pistol at the end of this video
What’s the trigger that you have on the other gun with the short reset and take up
what trigger was the one at the end of the video that you liked better then the Gray Gun?
This video is extremely old and there are far better options now available. My favorite combination is the AC dual adjustable trigger used with The Sig Armorer C.O.R.E. kit. Amazing.
It seems Gray Guns changed this kit and the new trigger design won't install as easily as shown in this vid which is of the older model.
Curious if anyone knows the trick to install the spring after seating the trigger. I ended up bending the competition spring and had to instead use the intermediate one.
Does this kit work with the M17 with the thumb safety?
Hey man is that a black or grey grip module? Thanks
What is the trigger that you prefer, didn't get the name if you mentioned it?
Have you installed one of these kits lately? Do they no longer include the over travel stop tube? I’m doing mine now and it does not include it.
I stopped using GG products a looooong time ago. Many better options available.
@@SigGuy this competition trigger is pretty incredible. What would you recommend instead of it currently (in terms of springs, etc.)?
@@nolatone it’s not that incredible. This kit by the Sig Armorer blows the GG kit out of the water. Combine it with the AC dual adjustable trigger and you can’t get any better
www.sigguy.com/product-page/the-sig-armorer-p320-competition-level-action-job-kit
@@SigGuy I’ll have to check that out.
What is the trigger at 21:20 that you refer to as being your favorite?
My trigger looks different than the one in the video. There is no way to line it up with the trigger bar while the spring is installed.
who did the stippling on your tan "favorite" p320...... impressive
That one was done by 313 tactical. That was done long ago and it’s still among the best stippling that I’ve seen and felt.
@@SigGuy I agree
hey, whats that other trigger ? the one u like more.
The competition level action job from the Sig Armorer? That’s a sweet feeling trigger. Armory Craft is coming out with a dual adjustable trigger. THAT one is pretty sick also.
Can the Keres Pro Adjust Trigger be used with the GrayGuns Competition Trigger System?
JayB059 no. The GG has a really long trigger pull. Neckar if that if you get rid of the take up and over travel the gun won’t fire and reset.
@@SigGuy OK, thanks for the info! Love your videos!
I would like to know what trigger that is in the tan/brown 320?
Apex.
Who did your stippling job?
That is a laser etched grip module most companies are offering them now. Armory Craft’s are my favorite.
kind of grease are u using? make much difference?
Big difference. I use tetra grease. www.sigguy.com/product-page/tetra-gun-grease-1-oz-tube
Does this work on a axg pro?
So what did you find that works better (I'm at that point now, 3 yrs later)
Best option going is the Sig armorer core kit with the ac dual adjustable trigger. Hard to bet IMO
@@SigGuy Thanks
Awesome stippling! Who did it?
I believe grayguns aswell.
What trigger as the 21:19 trigger?
Keres. I would recommend Armory Craft instead. Made of steel instead of soft aluminum and it reduces pull weight by 30% In non legion 320s. I have them on my website here....
sigguy.com/shop-%2F-products/ols/products/sig-sauer-p320-dual-adjustable-flat-trigger
What is that other trigger on the other gun?
Will this trigger fit my P320 Sig X Compact?
Yes sir. All P320 FCUs are the same. I would recommend the Armory Craft Trigger over this one though. This video is a little bit old and the AC trigger wasn’t even made at the time of this video.
Sig Sauer Guy, thanks, appreciate the reply!
Hi, how are you! I would like to change the sight to my M18 could you make a video of how to change and align them I want to learn 😁😁😁😁😁
All SIG sights are removed and installed the same way. Have you seen the review video I did on the Wheeler Sight Pusher?
What is the trigger in the other Sig that you preferred??
This video is old and other options have come available since. My favorite setup in use now in all my 320s is The Sig Armorer competition level action job AND the Armory Craft dual adjustable trigger. Amazing. As far as just a drop in option Armory Craft hands-down. I have their triggers in every single one of my Sig pistols now.
@@SigGuy In your opinion are they best suited for carry or range?
What’s installed in the FDE sig ??
That was the Keres trigger. Didn’t last very long. Made from a softer material. Aluminum or something. This was pre Armory Craft. I recommend AC For the same trigger type pull plus it reused pull weight on non legion 320s. I sell several different triggers on my website. Sigguy.Com
Who made the trigger in the tan gun you said you prefer more?
Benjamin Lineberry At that time I preferred the SIG Armorers competition level action job with the Keres Pro adjustable trigger. Armory Craft is coming out with their trigger here shortly which is dual adjustable and made of solid steel. With their skeletonize signature look. It should be right at the top!
Is there a drop in kit that can replicate that shorter travel creep /reset trigger?
Stanley Suarez there will be soon. Armory Craft is coming out with their dual adjustable trigger.
Great video - thank you! I'm looking for a trigger upgrade for the X5 legion, and the GG system is disappointing in terms of creep and reset reduction. (I suspect reset strength also isn't any better than stock.)
You mentioned the Sig Armorer's Comp Level action job with Keres Pro adjustable trigger was what's in the tan gun... that looked MUCH better. Is that still what you'd recommend, or better to wait for the Armory Craft dual adjustable system?
DVC Performance haha. You pay attention sir. Wait until tomorrow or the next day. MAYBE an announcement is gonna be made. 😉 You are correct. GG blows. Not even gonna sugar coat it. The new hybrid system is just as bad. The big new improvement on there is the added in over travel stop screw. With their original kit there was almost no over travel to begin with. So the trigger pre-travel is crazy long, creep his long and reset his long. Not my favorite. It is a light trigger but like I said wait until tomorrow or the next day. I spend the last 2 days getting data on something new. You’re gonna love it.
Does gray guns install these if i didn't want to do it?
I’m sure they would. You would need to ask them.
Does it work on the Cali M18?
Yes
What trigger is on the gold P320?
That was a Keres trigger. Now AC makes a much better dual adjustable trigger that also reduces trigger pull weight. Available on sigguy.com of you are interested.
Is there somewhere that I can send my P320 to for the upgrade?
Paul Rampon which upgrade are you referring to? The voluntary upgrade or just the trigger upgrade?
The trigger upgrade. I believe my 320 has the upgrade. Is there a way of visually checking for that? Thank you for the prompt response.
Do you have the website for the kit
Google.com
Little bit slower pace would be better
Not for the new hybrid Gray Guns trigger spring needs to go n last, otherwise everything else GTG
Id take the Apex over this , for me anyway
Everyday and twice on Sunday. 👍🏼
Why can no one figure out how to fix the atrocious creep of these p320 triggers…
Nah this video isnt it. Ive been trying to install this trigger for 3 hours. My trigger only will fit into the FCU a specific way and how youve set the trigger bar behind the sear the angle wont fit at alllllll. Ill wait until im finished for the edit smfgdh
There are some older trigger designs that require you to install the trigger and trigger bar together FIRST. Put the trigger bar into proper position at the sear end. THEN attach the trigger bar spring.
this is impossible
What is impossible?
What trigger setup did you have in your last gun on the Video is that achievable with the p320 Max