Excellent video thanks for taking the time. I’m torn between the armor craft vs sending it into the armory. While the video explains well the travel I’m wondering the feel between the two and your preference. Thanks in advance
I noticed you didn’t mention the brand of the mushy trigger. Is the mush trigger the hybrid or hybrid competition from one of the big name competitors?
Will this new Armory Craft trigger work the Legion trigger geometry? Keres told me that their trigger would increase the trigger pull with the Legion due to the Legion’s new geometry. Thanks
Your 320 "snap" and reset sound waaay more crisp and defined vs my M18. My feels spongy and you can "hear" it. It's very different compared to yours. When it breaks, it's dull - not crisp and glass-like. You got lucky. Any tips??
Kind of a random question, can you install this trigger with the return spring attached? I've seen you do this with your apex but it doesn't work with the stock trigger, you have to install the shoe first then connect the spring.
Jason Anziano Yes you can. The only trigger I have had a problem doing it that way with is the new gray guns hybrid trigger. That one you have to install the trigger first and do the spring last. Every other trigger available so far I have been able to install the spring first and do the trigger last. Much easier method.
hey where can i get the tungsten guide rod for the p320 x5 full size ? I have on in my glock and love it but cant find it for the p320 im trying to build a legion already have my grip module and slide
Absolitely. It’s recommended not to use the pretravel screw for EDC by the manufacturer. I don’t EDC a 320 but definitely do for HD. Im liberal with the pretravel screw in those 320s.
You make a point of stating that this trigger should not be used in an every day home defense gun or concealed carry gun. But, with the amount of adjustment that can be done can it not be adjusted to be safe for a home defense gun or concealed carry gun. I really like the look and adjustability. Thoughts?
For me definitely the AC trigger. This trigger was what hooked me on AC products. It’s also the reason I’ve invested and became a distributor for them. Their products not only are a huge improvement but quality is also second to none. The AC trigger combines what all the others do in one part. Because if the design geometry an additional trigger bar is not necessary. If you are interested in this trigger or other AC products and helpful tools please check out my website. Sigguy.Com
I have used them together before but it is unnecessary. The geometry the Apex has designed the trigger bar with Armory Craft has done with the trigger. It is not recommended to mix and match different companies parts. The Armory Craft trigger will do everything that that Apex bar is doing and more.
Factory slide that I had lightening cuts, cobra cut “xcompact” laster engraved and X5 rear adjustable sight custom fitted to. Odins workshop did all the cuts and The Sig Armorer fitted the rear sight. Good eye bud.
I just put an apex on mine. I'll upload vid if you want. Only dropped pull weight about 1 to 1.5 lbs on average. Wasnt to pleased. But the take up and break was way better than factory
@@BrianJohnson-tz6xl every gun has growing pains. The 320 is past that. The grip modules for the 250 are identical to the 320. Any that fit the 320 will fit the 250.
Would you recommend armory craft adjustable trigger over keres adjustable trigger for any reason? I just ordered the keres trigger a couple days ago (hasn’t arrived yet) but I don’t cut corners with my firearms. If armory craft has advantages, that’s what I want. Thank you sir.
Mark Anderson The Armory Craft trigger is made from hardened steel. The Keres is from aluminum. I have posted pictures of mine several times on my Facebook. The Keres trigger did not hold up very well. The geometry is different with the Armory Craft also. It further reduce his trigger pull weight.
You mentioned the beautiful X-Compact is not your CCW weapon. Would you recommend keeping the stock trigger on an X-Compact, or opting for the Armory Craft ... or something else? Thanks and I gotta tell you I get a ton of help from your channel.
EGlideKid I have no problems using an aftermarket trigger in my EDC. My comment was more based on the face that if I was carrying this the trigger adjustment wouldn’t be so extreme.
@@SigGuy That's what I hoped you meant ... just wanted to make sure. Thanks for the reply. I am guessing that where the X-Compact is concerned, you prefer the Armory Craft trigger to others, as it reduces the trigger pull and is made from steel?
Colabro From SC on the xcompact with the Armory Craft trigger I have a green Dawson front didn’t and a custom fitted X5 rear adjustable sight on the rear.
Not sure if there’s a newer Keres trigger but the one I had was made out of a soft metal. Wore it out in less than 2k rounds. Also it didn’t reduce pull weight like the AC does. Again I’m not sure if they’ve had revisions
The pull weight will be the same. The AC trigger will allow you to make adjustments to the pre and over travel. Doing this will also shorten the reset. Big improvement IMO.
12MRJERSEY I don’t have a M18. I do have a authentic M17 surplus. The 18 is just the compact version. There are different variants of each. The USGI M17 and M18 are different from the commemorative and civilian. The USGI use a similar pre tensioned barrel/slide set up as the X5 as well as other differences. All other variants are basically the same 320
Thanks for the sneak peek of the new AC trigger! Would you say that the AC trigger and the Sig Armorer's Competition level action job would be the ultimate combination for an X5 Legion? (i.e. least creep, best reset, sub 4# weight)
DVC Performance I ran the Keres in the X5 with the SA comp job. It was my favorite combination. The Keres wore out and got sloppy. I haven’t tried the AC trigger in the X5 yet. Just using in factory FCUs so accurate data can be gathered.
Thanks again. I'll still plan to get the Sig Armorer's competition level action job - but being that the Keres wears out quickly, I guess it comes down to whether it's worth investing in the AC trigger with the SA comp action job, or just sticking with the OE Legion trigger with the SA comp action job. In particular, I'm looking for a short but strong reset, well-defined wall and minimal creep... and all things equal, lighter is better From what you know of the AC trigger so far, any further thoughts on whether it would be a better platform than stock to pair with the SA comp action job?
@@SigGuy sweet, I love the legion x5 just absolutely hate the reset. I guess I'm spoiled by the SRT for sigs hammer guns. going to buy one of these tonight, really hope I can get a shorter reset.
I just got a legion x5 and want to do more trigger work on it. Is the AC320 the way to go and what about adding Sig Armorer competition action job to that. What is the added benefit of both or is one better to do now and add the other later.thanks
I just got a legion x5 and want to do more trigger work on it. Is the AC320 the way to go and what about adding Sig Armorer competition action job to that. What is the added benefit of both or is one better to do now and add the other later.thanks
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Sig Guy, Found your channel by mistake but I'm so glad I'm here. Excellent content especially since I just bought a X5 Legion. A++
MegaDunamis777 Thank you very much sir! I really appreciate the compliment.
Excellent enlightening presentation 👏🏼
Excellent video thanks for taking the time. I’m torn between the armor craft vs sending it into the armory. While the video explains well the travel I’m wondering the feel between the two and your preference. Thanks in advance
Hey Bro, wow another AMAZING looking p320! that i want! thanks for sharing
lonny wells haha. Thank you sir. That was a fun project gun. Appreciate the compliment.
A tip : you can watch series on Flixzone. I've been using them for watching lots of of movies recently.
@Malcolm Raphael definitely, I have been watching on flixzone for months myself :D
Awesome content. Between the apex and the armory craft one you showed last which would you prefer for home defense and range use?
Thts a clean ass sig man!! Tht cerakote is awesome.
I noticed you didn’t mention the brand of the mushy trigger. Is the mush trigger the hybrid or hybrid competition from one of the big name competitors?
I didn’t see that you have compare to the Keres Dynamics adjustable trigger?? can you compare both in the X5
Will this new Armory Craft trigger work the Legion trigger geometry? Keres told me that their trigger would increase the trigger pull with the Legion due to the Legion’s new geometry. Thanks
Just ordered this trigger. Can't wait to get rid of all the slop on my factory X5 Legion.
You will love it!!!
@@SigGuy You were right!
@@oscarcortez87 how many pounds is the trigger weight? I have a standard p320 FCU but a 5” X5 slide
@Blackhawk556 Never measured it but definitely worth the investment. Got rid of the gat all together. Went M&P performance center.
Your 320 "snap" and reset sound waaay more crisp and defined vs my M18. My feels spongy and you can "hear" it. It's very different compared to yours. When it breaks, it's dull - not crisp and glass-like. You got lucky. Any tips??
Where do you get the camo graphics done?
great review thank you.
Love your channel. I am wondering who did your cammo coating and stippling
David Jakab here’s all the info n that xCompact. Thank you for the compliment
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Kind of a random question, can you install this trigger with the return spring attached? I've seen you do this with your apex but it doesn't work with the stock trigger, you have to install the shoe first then connect the spring.
Jason Anziano Yes you can. The only trigger I have had a problem doing it that way with is the new gray guns hybrid trigger. That one you have to install the trigger first and do the spring last. Every other trigger available so far I have been able to install the spring first and do the trigger last. Much easier method.
@@SigGuy Love it! seems like it makes cleaning those tough spots much easier
excellent thank you
hey where can i get the tungsten guide rod for the p320 x5 full size ? I have on in my glock and love it but cant find it for the p320 im trying to build a legion already have my grip module and slide
I got mine from Springer Precision.
Curious - what "sig armorer" were you referring to? Thanks
The choice of champions. 😊
www.thesigarmorer.com
Great vid! So given the AC trigger can be adjusted, would you consider using it on your edc or home defense gun?
Absolitely. It’s recommended not to use the pretravel screw for EDC by the manufacturer. I don’t EDC a 320 but definitely do for HD. Im liberal with the pretravel screw in those 320s.
@@SigGuydoes the manufacturer provide insights into ‘why’ they don’t recommend using the pre travel screw for EDC/HD?
What fiber optic sights are you running on your P320?
Dawson’s.
You make a point of stating that this trigger should not be used in an every day home defense gun or concealed carry gun. But, with the amount of adjustment that can be done can it not be adjusted to be safe for a home defense gun or concealed carry gun. I really like the look and adjustability. Thoughts?
I’m curious about this too for an EDC P320.
Would you recommend the Armory Craft trigger over the Apex or Grayguns trigger for a P320?
For me definitely the AC trigger. This trigger was what hooked me on AC products. It’s also the reason I’ve invested and became a distributor for them. Their products not only are a huge improvement but quality is also second to none. The AC trigger combines what all the others do in one part. Because if the design geometry an additional trigger bar is not necessary. If you are interested in this trigger or other AC products and helpful tools please check out my website. Sigguy.Com
@@SigGuy Thanks will do & Thanks for sharing your videos!
Do you know if the armory craft trigger is compatible with the apex trigger bar kit ?
I have used them together before but it is unnecessary. The geometry the Apex has designed the trigger bar with Armory Craft has done with the trigger. It is not recommended to mix and match different companies parts. The Armory Craft trigger will do everything that that Apex bar is doing and more.
@@SigGuy Great ! Thanks for your quick reply. I love your videos and I really appreciate all you do for the p320 community.
What kind of slide is that... it say x compact but have the legion rear sight
Factory slide that I had lightening cuts, cobra cut “xcompact” laster engraved and X5 rear adjustable sight custom fitted to. Odins workshop did all the cuts and The Sig Armorer fitted the rear sight. Good eye bud.
Which is better for a competion gun? Apex complete kit or Armory Craft?
I just put an apex on mine. I'll upload vid if you want. Only dropped pull weight about 1 to 1.5 lbs on average. Wasnt to pleased. But the take up and break was way better than factory
I think a takedown lever with a push pedal would be nice
Of topic , I have a sig p250 what are my accessories options ?? Just bought the pistol , just trying to see what's available on the p250 platform.
I have 4 P250s. Basically taking up safe space. Not much support as far as upgrades go. Curious.... why did you choose a 250 over a 320?
Love hammer fire guns, plus they have had problems with the p320 , what grip modules can I use ??
@@BrianJohnson-tz6xl every gun has growing pains. The 320 is past that. The grip modules for the 250 are identical to the 320. Any that fit the 320 will fit the 250.
Would this be a good to pair with a Apex trigger system?
all but trigger shoe(bushing,-20 trigger bar spring, and -50 sear springs
Would you recommend armory craft adjustable trigger over keres adjustable trigger for any reason? I just ordered the keres trigger a couple days ago (hasn’t arrived yet) but I don’t cut corners with my firearms. If armory craft has advantages, that’s what I want. Thank you sir.
Mark Anderson The Armory Craft trigger is made from hardened steel. The Keres is from aluminum. I have posted pictures of mine several times on my Facebook. The Keres trigger did not hold up very well. The geometry is different with the Armory Craft also. It further reduce his trigger pull weight.
Sig Sauer Guy thanks for the input. I’ll be picking up the armory craft once it’s available in February.
What mag release is on the compact?
That was a prototype
Nice 320 collection
Chris Grignon thank you sir. Picked up a M17 surplus today. 😘
Hey what do you think would be a good option for a p320x compact (that I will be using for home defense and occasional carry) ?
Home defense amd occasional carry says 226 all day to me.
You mentioned the beautiful X-Compact is not your CCW weapon. Would you recommend keeping the stock trigger on an X-Compact, or opting for the Armory Craft ... or something else?
Thanks and I gotta tell you I get a ton of help from your channel.
EGlideKid I have no problems using an aftermarket trigger in my EDC. My comment was more based on the face that if I was carrying this the trigger adjustment wouldn’t be so extreme.
@@SigGuy That's what I hoped you meant ... just wanted to make sure. Thanks for the reply. I am guessing that where the X-Compact is concerned, you prefer the Armory Craft trigger to others, as it reduces the trigger pull and is made from steel?
EGlideKid AND it’s dual adjustable. Yes.
Each and everyone of my pistols has an Armory Craft trigger in it. Once you try one running a stock trigger is not going to happen. 😊
@@SigGuy would you use the armory craft trigger in conjunction with an apex trigger bar and springs?
What sights are you using?
Colabro From SC on the xcompact with the Armory Craft trigger I have a green Dawson front didn’t and a custom fitted X5 rear adjustable sight on the rear.
whats the difference between this and the Keres trigger??
Not sure if there’s a newer Keres trigger but the one I had was made out of a soft metal. Wore it out in less than 2k rounds. Also it didn’t reduce pull weight like the AC does. Again I’m not sure if they’ve had revisions
compare this trigger to the x5 legion it's going to be a big improvement??????
The pull weight will be the same. The AC trigger will allow you to make adjustments to the pre and over travel. Doing this will also shorten the reset. Big improvement IMO.
Trigger at 3:52?
adjustable magazine release??? where is that from?
Armory Craft. Not available yet sir.
@@SigGuy would like you to compare it to the Keres magazine release... pretty please. I have short fingers and have to regrip to hit mag release
@@SigGuy can you do a video comparing aftermarket magazine releases for the P320? Was looking at the Keres but this looks very interesting....
UPDATE: AC dual adjustable P320 trigger will be available feb 1st. They are cut and getting nitride as we speak.
Armory Craft trigger. Pre-travel adjustment does work. Overtravel screw does not work (P320 XCarry)
Please clarify “does not work”
Cool yo quiero uno
Who did your cerakote
That one was by 313 tactical.
Can you please review the P320 M18?
12MRJERSEY I don’t have a M18. I do have a authentic M17 surplus. The 18 is just the compact version. There are different variants of each. The USGI M17 and M18 are different from the commemorative and civilian. The USGI use a similar pre tensioned barrel/slide set up as the X5 as well as other differences. All other variants are basically the same 320
Thanks for the sneak peek of the new AC trigger! Would you say that the AC trigger and the Sig Armorer's Competition level action job would be the ultimate combination for an X5 Legion? (i.e. least creep, best reset, sub 4# weight)
DVC Performance I ran the Keres in the X5 with the SA comp job. It was my favorite combination. The Keres wore out and got sloppy. I haven’t tried the AC trigger in the X5 yet. Just using in factory FCUs so accurate data can be gathered.
Thanks again. I'll still plan to get the Sig Armorer's competition level action job - but being that the Keres wears out quickly, I guess it comes down to whether it's worth investing in the AC trigger with the SA comp action job, or just sticking with the OE Legion trigger with the SA comp action job. In particular, I'm looking for a short but strong reset, well-defined wall and minimal creep... and all things equal, lighter is better
From what you know of the AC trigger so far, any further thoughts on whether it would be a better platform than stock to pair with the SA comp action job?
will this work in an x5 legion?
JRF yes sir. I’ve actually been using it on my X5L for a couple months.
@@SigGuy sweet, I love the legion x5 just absolutely hate the reset. I guess I'm spoiled by the SRT for sigs hammer guns. going to buy one of these tonight, really hope I can get a shorter reset.
JRF I hear ya! My 226 trigger is ridiculously short, light and crisp. You will be very pleased with the AC 320 trigger.
I just got a legion x5 and want to do more trigger work on it. Is the AC320 the way to go and what about adding Sig Armorer competition action job to that. What is the added benefit of both or is one better to do now and add the other later.thanks
I just got a legion x5 and want to do more trigger work on it. Is the AC320 the way to go and what about adding Sig Armorer competition action job to that. What is the added benefit of both or is one better to do now and add the other later.thanks
Have you ever looked into glocks?
J.di Eason negative.
Lol, I’m just kidding man. Great vid!
Speaking softly coupled with the mumbling makes it extremely difficult to follow
This is an older video. Lighting, camera and audio has been greatly improved since the making of this video. Thank you for the feedback sir. I appreciate it.