Samsung just made everything else OBSOLETE
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
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Samsung Display invited us to see their new OLED TV's that use a radically different technology than LG's WOLED displays: quantum dots inkjet printed directly onto an all-blue emissive layer. Find out why we can't wait to see these panels come to premium TVs and ultrawide gaming monitors in 2022.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 - Intro
1:01 - The issues with LCD/OLEDs
2:16 - More than brightness
3:22 - The science of colour
4:30 - Colour testing vs WOLED
7:44 - Burn-in fears and other applications
9:10 - Conclusion
10:30 - Outro - Наука та технологія
Linus: "Look at this colors!!!!"
Me using a regular old LCD display:"Ah yes this colors are indeed very color-y"
To be fair, they look very good on my Dell UP3017.
I’m on my iPhone XR loving my sub 1080p screen!
Me using a TN Panel: What colours?
on point tv preview experience lol
2006 lcd here, hd ready as well :d
Sounds like it'll be a nice thing to buy in like 5 years when prices aren't in the stratosphere.
I thought the same about OLEDs when I first saw one haha well.. now we are here.
To be fair Im still a student so its not my fault =)
@@jasssedine fair enough
@@jasssedine lol
@@jasssedine wym your fault?
that will line up nicely with the point in time better GPUs are affordable again...
I love seeing this kind of stuff in the store because its so easy to tell when its next to something inferior. Then I see the price and remember I am inferior.
@yo yo You could think of a Plasma tv as a OLED but more. To some, it may look better than a OLED. But a plasma costs more, has more weight and has more burn-in. As I said, OLED but more (I know that I could have used better wording, but I needed to use the word more to emphasise the “OLED but more”)
@yo yo similar to how CRTs are actually way better than modern LCD monitors. Better colors, way higher refresh rates.
@yo yo I didn't say better than OLEDs, I said better than LCDs. And that's true, because CRTs have true blacks like OLEDs as both use emissive displays (switch off pixels not used). And pretty much all CRTs had excellent full-gamut color range. Yes, they were absolutely better (in colors) than LCDs when LCD's were new, and they're probably still better than most screens today.
which one is the most power efficient and outlast them all? i'm using my 50 inch LED tv since 2013, sure it's not the best of the best, but i think i will use this until it dies or it becomes less bright.
Nice to see obsolete WOLED displays are still out of my budget. Fantastic!
OLED makes you say, "Oh." When you see the price tag.
WOLED makes you say, "Woah." When you see the price tag.
New top of the line products should bring down prices for the others on the market, no?
@Malek: Just be patient and work towards your goals, my friend. Took me to last year to be in the tech-position I wanted to be in in 2012. Back then it was my dream as a student to get a Plasma TV and a new Piano. Last year I got my C9 OLED and new Piano. Patience. You'll get there. I promise.
@@Wistbacka good general life advice!
@@JK-gm6kk
they do, just years and years later. so if you are patient enough, one day you will have this WOLED tv.
most people aren't patient though, and will likely make their purchase on something like this when they have enough money and then complain that they suddenly can't pay their rent or for food or whatever lol.
"Samsung just made everything else OBSOLETE!" brought to you by Samsung.
At least the contense of the video is not that much over the top...
No different to all the videos saying how amazing Apple are
@@MT-eb2dx he’s talked about on WAN show that the team makes sensationalist titles and thumbnails but tries their best to make the videos honest and accurate.
@@ryanfeller5765 Thats alright normally. But when the sponsor of the video is the same as the product of the video its clearly crossing a line.
Exactly🤦🏽♂️
I love looking at the comparisons and saying ''This really does look better'', on my LCD.
I keep looking at the one on the left and going, "I see more detail on that one. How is this better?"
@@grandetaco4416 My thoughts exactly as well. All the ones on the right (The QD) seemed blown out and muddled. Especially the scene with the lake/river (the one after the mountain scene) and cloud reflection on the water. Much more detail in the left image where the right there is almost no detail at all in the reflection. As for the mountain scene, the trees just below the mountain look like a very poor photoshop job instead of looking natural.
My screens are fine for now as it stands... I can imagine them to look better
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@@bootxlegg Why TF did you link one of your own videos of no relevance?
@@roxaslight7503 well of course they look like that on a display that can't capture the color detail...
The whole "too dim in sunlight" issue with OLED never mattered to me, because if I'm watching TV in the middle of the day with the curtains open, I should probably re-examine my life choices.
Yeah, watching tv in the middle of the day should be done with the curtains closed, obviously
@@F4T4LFUS1ON if so, it would be better to buy a projector then...
I think in a few years QD-OLED going to look really good on tablets and laptops designed to be used under direct sunlight.
@@quandovoceleroscomentarios1668 I stopped paying attention to projectors years ago, have they stopped sucking yet?
for anyone making jokes like "this looks great on my non-hdr lcd", you can absolutely tell the quality of displays by watching filmed footage on your display. Cameras are very picky, they make things like backlight bleed and bad contrast look AWFUL when filmed, and these artifacts are completely viewable on consumer grade LCD's. this especially works well for side by side comparisons, at 3:21 it's very obvious the LG's reds aren't as red. Yeah, you're not getting HDR red on the monitor you're looking at in your room, but you can still see the difference between the two TV's in the video. at 3:48 it's extremely obvious the ambers on the left are duller.
Man this TV is so technically impressive that fixing it probably gonna cost more then buying a new one
Knowing it is coming from Samsung their QC and RMA will be shitty.
it's actually a simpler technology stack, though I think the difference is negligible when it comes to repair.
Bold of you to assume you can
even fix anything
Last tv i fixed had the main board shorted to ground for some reason.. I caption taped the shizznits out of it and it worked, 1$ fix of 1000$ tv.
Previous one I replaced a blown cap on the PSU..
On a different topic, I wish someone will come up with a fix for LG OLEDs that have been dinged up and rendered unusable.
Me judging high res fancy displays on my fridge's TFT:
"interesting"
Damn you must be loaded with money. I am watching the display comparison on a black and white kindle which i found in a dumbster.
@@2failepic at least your device is pocketable, I’m using a CRT I found on the side of the road.
@@2failepic The strobing from refreshing the whole e-ink screen all the time must be really tiring. Mad respect!
@@2failepic I don't actually have a smart fridge, I aint that rich.
"All its gotta do is keep my funkken beer cold"
@@FlameOnTheBeat just got a A52s 5G, it ain't bad but I've seen better
For a sponsored video this felt natural and not forced one bit, and it's so great that you make it SO clear it's sponsored. Great to see the detail of the tech and the reasoning behind it 👍
8:51 I'm really curious for the performance during motion. During this shot I can see that the UFO has no visible trace. With 175 Hz one can assume that the picture would look good even without BFI. But there are still some games which are locked at 60 Hz. I hope that the monitor will have some BFI feature for this to allow motion clarity on those games as well.
Ill have to see if Linus is hiring to be able afford this TV.
Wait what
@@andrive they're just saying that it's probably gonna be super expensive
@@BrainScramblies I heard their pay is kinda average, (except for their new blank-cheque engineers they're hiring).
And if you are hired, you would probably have to wait your turn for an Intel Extreme Tech Upgrade before you get a new TV
Don't worry friend I'm sure it will be at an affordable 10,000 dollars..
I hit this so fast I thought it was an SSD video.
Same
Same lol
It is lol, it's a Sam Sung Display video
I processed this so slow I thought I was an hdd
not
2:58 I'm just amazed that we're generating images that we don't have display tech good enough yet to actually see properly. Incredible.
It was even more drastic when color TV signals started to be broadcast while almost everyone was still stuck with black & white TVs...
It amazes me how every new TV/Monitor innovation is advertised as "It looks so life like" like I really know what it looks like in real life or that my TV that "Looked life like" didn't really look life like like this new TV does.
When will peaple learn that 10bit hdr is not realistic 12bit will be the final because thats what photograghers use to shoot there photos they can also us
Congrats on the Samsung sponsorship, that's such a massive sponsor to even have. Really show's you how influential you've become.
Yeah that makes for some serious advertisement income. Especially from Samsung! How about some 'full disclosure' huh ;)
@Bry Zeer Pewdiepie has 100 mil and is shunned and ignored by most big companies. What's your point?
Samsung “retail demo” mode is always like this though. They make sure RBG is popping with maximum brightness. We need to see some color calibrations then a side by side comparison.
Yeah but that also goes to LG / Sony they use a lot of the "smooth" animation thing in retail demo mode and all the stuff. Only Panasonic and Philips doesnt touch a lot of things in their retail mode
@@Tacotrucktodd Who ?
@@Tacotrucktodd Probably Philips
My thoughts exactly
LG tv looks so blue
definitely not calibrated
so not from the same starting line
trying to make it look worse, lol
It's great and all, but as long as it makes current OLED and top spec TVs drop their price, that would be the biggest effect for most people.
Yup, we need new all the new TVs so we can afford all the current top of the line TVs. Competition and innovation is always good for the consumer. I don’t really care about any 8K TV. Just want a solid OLED TV
@@henrylam92 the first QD OLED TV will be the 4k Sony A95K. Even the OEMs seem to know that nobody cares about 8k
I like this line of thinking. Capitalism at its finest.
Also, I don't trust Samsung with color calibration, their panels are way too saturated. I'm watching this video trough an OLED and the "normal" side of the screen looked way better more natural.
Especially in the first picture, the one with the poppy field. The Samsung side was so saturated that it lost all the definition in the upper portion of the screen, you could no longer make out the individual flowers.
I know that in person it will look different, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
@@Willy-tt6ez that's not capitalism, that's how any market works, no matter if capitalist or not.
Capitalism is when few people have a lot of money (the capital) at their disposal, and with that capital they can run a business with no democratic oversight, they can completely disregard what their workers have to say about how to run the very own enterprise where they work.
If politics worked like that you would call a society set up in this way a dictatorship.
I like that how since forever the intro is still the same. :) pls never change it
samsung just combined testing and marketing into 1 video
I used to work on OLEDS on the chemical side. I'm truly curious how this tech will impact pricing as the biggest bonus I see is panel yield. The problem with RGB OLEDs is that the materials (specifically the emissive) layer from any one color can kill the others, so if your red and green printing passes went great but your blue print pass was a bit off you will end up with a bunch of dead pixels or sections. As this panel is only printing blue on the OLED layer, sealing it, and then using quantum dots outside the conductive space, the accuracy of the print does not need to be as tight and the printing tech itself can be massively simplified which in theory could conservatively put the yield of these panels >85%.
This yield issue was huge in the industry with one large manufacturer struggling to hit 25% yield on finished panels around the 55" size on a good day. So if their yields are increasing the way I think they are that is a whole lot less dead panels that have to be rolled into the cost of one good panel.
Note: A bit of what I have stated above is over-simplified, some printing technologies use multiple passes for the emissive layers where as ink-jet can do it in one shot. None of these are easy as the droplet size is stupidly small and impacted greatly by static charge, and trying to maintain an even charge across a large panel is mind bendingly hard as you are doing it in a purged and dry environment because O2 and moisture kills these compounds fast. Then comes drying all this printed mess, if your pressure and temp controls are not absolutely tight you can still get enough splatter from one pixel well over to the next to ruin a panel.
So these will essentially become super cheap. The next gen monitors are finally here huh...
25% Yield? On a good day!?!? I work in medical
device manufacturing and this boggles my mind. Our yields are 90+% unless we have an equipment failure.
Wow, what a great insight into how complicated it can be to make the panels - thank you!
Are there actually any TV-sized true RGB OLED screens? LG uses white pxels and color filters on their TVs, is there anyone else making thier own panels?
tnx alex
What image settings were used on LG when this test was done? Difficult to trust a review, especially a sponsored one, when no baselines are given.
Finally! I'm glad the producers started pushing forward again, after getting stuck on the HDR feature for the last 3-4 years.
They will be very expensive, but these are basically the last monitor I would ever need. OLED, high refresh rate + GSync, and a reasonable size.
Who needs more then 64kb of ram! 4.7gb DVD! Or a 17" crt. Or a 7200rpm hdd. 10mbps Lan. Lol.
I love seeing the progress in display qualities! Although, I sincerely hope that Samsung's Smart TV software has gotten better. I had a few too many times it froze or would even remove apps from the start menu.
Linus: Samsung made a display that obsoletes everything else
Also linus: it's 15% to 25% better and costs a kidney more than current displays.
Better is still better. Especially considering that OLED tech already is about 25% off from being "perfect." It IS expensive, and the tech is providing a numerically "small" improvement. But small improvements on paper can appear larger in reality. That side by side with the current OLED was drastically better looking to the eye, even though measurements may indicate a "not huge" difference.
@@stephenpatterson8056 tbh I'm not the kind of person that cares that much about the "improvement" they do on displays, I'm unable to differenciate between close color ranges without sticking my eye to it so don't really care about color "accuracy". I still use old CRT TV for some stuff, is way cheaper an have all funtionality I need, until they improve the price of newer TVs I'm not upgrading
@Rev I don't think anybody said 50% better. But WRGB OLED panels, such as those manufactured and used by LG, have plenty of room to improve. Black level isn't everything. Which is the main area where those TVs excel. But since most AV enthusiasts are holdovers from the Plasma days (myself included) that's all they look at. But OLEDs lack of peak brightness, lack of FULL screen brightness due to ABL, and still somewhat poor near black handling are all strikes against the technology. And, that's not to say LCD is perfect either. Just to say that OLED ain't near the godlike perfect tech people like to proclaim it to be.
@@stephenpatterson8056 OLED is the only real upgrade for TVs in decades. But it is stupidly expensive and costs 1000$+ which will never make it mainstream. Making it even more expensive just hurts it more. That is why I'm against OLED Tech improvements, it's making it more expensive not the other way.
@@pavankeshavl856 LCD tech has improved massively over the years. I sold TVs from 2007 to 2013. If I could go back in time to myself back then, me back then would never believe me now if I told him how improved LCD tech would be. So yeah, I'm a previous highly anti LCD person now praising the tech's advancement.
Would be interesting to see a video on the topic of eye strain, HDR, and brightness and how these technologies have changed the guidelines compared to something like the old LCD or cathode ray TVs.
yeah dont sit too close to the tv
No phones itself have diminished the average adult eye lifespan.
Radium sunscreen. Protects and refreshes.
@George xander Blue Light obviously is bad for your skin bro smh my head
I have an HDR 1000 display and it can give you a hell of a headache from eye strain if too much white is displayed.
Hope to see on Galaxy devices~ Imagine seeing 12-bit Rec.2100 Colour Gamut on a 65" screen all day while a 6.5" iPhone is still stuck with 10-bit even if it's an emissive display.
I love the fact they are improving their tech within the viewing aspect, have they improved their wifi chips as most I've come across only connect at 2.4ghz and cause a battle when trying to pair with a router.
This has me very excited. However, as enthusiastic as I am about accurate colors, there's no way I'm in for one until HDTest confirms its accuracy and early adopters get all the random acts of disappointment out of the way.
Especially considering how Samsung's history has been with the quality of their monitors.
Yep was going to mention HDTVTest. This video seems like an ad.
I too will wait for them, that being said the fact that Sony, which has won the best TV award for 2021 from them has decided to utilize this technology means that tech holds a real promise.
@@theblackswordsman9951 In part it is. At the start of the video it's stated that samsung sponsored the video
HDTV Test has hyping fake WOLED colors for years.. Every Plasma Owner will tell you that WOLED does not look that good..
As someone who has worked in a TV store before I'm a little disappointed when you showed the side by side WOLED vs QDOLED and didn't show or mention the picture settings.. like others have mentioned, the dramatic differences can be pretty easily simulated with currently available TV's with just a "vivid" or "dynamic" setting change. The technology looks really cool and looks like it really should be an improvement but I always like to make sure its apples to apples when comparing TVs.
Samsung did sponsor Linus after all haha can NEVER trust a video like this.
WTF were you expecting??
This isn't HDTVTest. 😂😂
ngl it feels like the G1 is on a cool colour temp.
Not entirely the case here.. your settings don’t really matter when each display has its limitations and peaking those limitations is where the current OLEDs can’t complete next to the QD sets.
Have you ever tried comparing the original Samsung S9 OLED back from 2012/2013 to any of the 2021 OLEDs !
Those still show better and brighter colours than anything on the consumer market today.
Even without HDR or 4K !
So all the side by side comparisons r actually exactly what you should expect from the newer Samsung sets..
As LG panels simply can’t do certain things.. which has always been an inherent weakness of their approach to OLEDs.
Samsung always had a more superior approach and you still can’t beat their first OLED back from 2013 to anything in the market.
The side by side comparisons actually look very similar to what you’d see between the Samsung S9 form 2013 vs a LG G1.
The S9 didn’t have any ABL..
The S9 was extremely vibrant.. greyscale was near perfect.
But was poorly received by consumers because it was marginally expensive to the LGs at the time.
i mean it doesn't really matter since we can't actually see what they look like unless we're seeing it in person.
Since it takes less to power the leds, does the TPD of the TV go down appreciably? Not the most important stat on a TV/monitor, but less energy usage is always nice as an add-on.
That's a valid concern, especially considering how power much 8K TVs consume. With energy prices always on the rise, this stat is becoming more and more important.
@@leonro I thought of it later, but when these displays make their ways to mobile devices they MIGHT extend battery life. the display's always been the biggest energy hog on my phones.
@@TGAPOO I doubt we'll see this in mobile devices soon, considering that both LG's and Samsung's TV OLED panels haven't been made small enough for laptops or phones. The OLED screens that are used on phones and laptops all come from Samsung and are made differently. Of course, it'd be nice to be wrong, as that's just my expectation.
@@TGAPOO
that's true, but it also has to do with what resolution your screen is using, all these 4k and 8k screens are unnecessary for a 5X3 inch screen size, i will stick with my 720p resolution phone any day, another thing that sucks with newer phones is the built in battery you can't replace unless you are an expert and know what your doing. the newer phones aren't meant to last that long anyway which is why so many people need to replace their phone with a new one within 2 years of getting it, it's sad to see so many people drop a grand on a device that will only last them a few years at best.
but that's our current culture, always wasting money on shit they don't need or can really afford.
@@user-tp5yb4hr4w Bit rant-y there my dude. I agree with you mostly, but I've got bad eyes and use whatever I can get for free with the plan I want to use, and use it til it dies. I still want my phone to go longer between charges. Though I'd certainly love an easily replaceable battery.
Do the "instantaneous response times" include turning on from an off state? My Pixel 3a has an OLED of some type, but it takes a noticeable amount of time to go from off/complete black to anything else, which results in black splotches during scrolling.
I remember taking a class in visual density, back in the film days, it was titled " how white is white" . It did venture into apparent white and balanced white ( scientifically) measured. It was in conjunction with a class in color reproduction.
Color is so very subjective and is influenced by environment. I have done color correction for so many years that tinted glasses don't work for me when they have a color bias.
This was the first time someone explained RGB and color spaces in a way that it actually clicked.
Best product video in a while! Regarding the technical bits... to the point, we'll explained, deep enough without going too deep. Keep'em coming! 👍👍👍
Sounds like interesting tech for sure. I'll still wait for objective reviews once it launches, though. Always good to see new technology introduced so that we can look forward to it once it's refined enough for prices to drop.
What do you mean objective reviews you think Linus is trying to trick you into wasting all your money.
@@cablefeed3738 Of course not. But this *is* a sponsored video, so there are things he's not allowed to say. I do not doubt that what is said in this video is true, but by nature of being sponsored content, he cannot point out flaws in the product.
@@nunyabeeswax3012 He can and often does he refuses to take sponsorships where hes not allowed to say what he wants to about the product.
@@cablefeed3738 Given his less-than-objective coverage of anything noctua-related, I'm inclined to disagree. I doubt he's lying about anything in this video, but a company wouldn't sponsor a video if it didn't suit their interests.
@@nunyabeeswax3012 They would if they knew they had a good product.
title: "Samsung just made everything else OBSOLETE"
description: "Thanks to Samsung for sponsoring today's video!"
I don't know about what level of objetivity I can expect here.
Yeah. I agree, Total waste of time. Review of a technology made by someone wearing a beanie indoors. Heating is off or what? ;)
Then what level of objectivity *were* you expecting? Panel tech has always been about user visual perception, which is very subjective by nature.
Still not as bad as the MKBHD Sponsored Best Buy video.
@@tw3413 This is a product reveal rather than a review.
"sponsor of this video makes everything not sponsoring this video obsolete!"
Happy to see those thing coming to life. Made My master thesis on Quantum dot at that time with the aim to obtain super efficient multi band solar panels.
But already after few years we have seen that their mayor potential was in display and biomarkers sectors.
Lovely advert. Looks good, although the clip of the moose (and some others), the QD OLED looked surreal, rather than better, to my eyes.
Interestingly, Sony just announced their new range of TVs using Samsung's QD-OLED panels. I'd definitely want to see how Sony is implementing their BRAVIA tech onto these panels.
Bravia is more of a brand than any specific technology. Their current displays use OLED panels produced by LG and are notorious for being the same picture quality as LG but with a considerable mark up for the brand recognition of Sony.
It’s a shame really because Sony was responsible for producing the first ever LED backlit panel and OLED panel. I imagine they must have massively cut their R&D budget since almost all major innovations in display technology have come from LG and Samsung in the last 10 years. The next cycle seems to be the same with Sony’s decision to purchase QD OLED panels designed and manufactured by Samsung.
@@circuitwarden same panel, totally different motion engine which is what bravia is
@@circuitwarden Own processor, sound system, OS, build in general...
Best chance for Dolby Vision with this panel tech since Samsung don't support it.🤦♂️
@@circuitwarden What are you talking about? Sony has by far the best image processing pipeline and despite featuring same panel, their final products tend to be more color accurate than LG's.
Image processing is a very BIG part of modern displays.
i'm curious how this compares to the sony a90j which has a giant heatsink on the back to push brightness past lg specifications
Then wait for the A95K reviews. Sony is now using Samsung QD-OLED display for their flagship tv.
Those tvs are a bit of a hit or miss, the QN900A from Samsung gets pretty hot with just generic use, to the point my relatively small living room gets quite warm after an hour or so, never thought I'd be removing a night robe because of my tv but the A90j could be even worse¿ Who knows at this point technology demands are so extreme only extreme solutions and extreme price tags are viable
@@fewik8567 What are you talking about? The QN900A isn't an OLED. The Sony A90J is, meaning it would turn off some of the pixels for when they are displaying black, so less heat. The A90J is considered by many to be the best OLED TV for picture quality
Don't ask Linus, they'll rip one apart and fit water cooling.
@@fewik8567 a90j doesn’t get anywhere near as hot as the Samsung qn900a, that tv is literally part radiator
What is the movie on the tv in the beginning I can't remember what it's called?
Why are there links for buying a Sony a90J OLED TV in the description??
this is the first time i've felt skeptical watching a LTT video. knowing that this is sponsored by samsung, and hearing the sales pitches about how good these TVs are, and the straight up attacks on LG's panels and their quality... I'm just not sure if i trust this. I hope i'm not alone.
quite a conflict of interest thingy dilemma going on here.
had the same feeling throughout the video
Yeah no I don’t trust it either. Linus has been sorta dropping the ball recently I feel. Losing touch, almost.
@@RDR911 He has always done this. He and Jay will review whatever product as long as a company throws money at them. Can't fault them for it, I guess. Some of the only honest channels are probably hardwareunboxed and gamersnexus these days.
They've produced lots of sponsored videos over the years and I trust him. He made it very clear that sponsors pay him to talk about their key points. They can't pay him to talk positively about a product he doesn't like. And I've rarely seen this level of enthusiasm out of Linus. This is 100% genuine excitement.
He's also made it very clear that this was a Samsung curated experience and should be taken with a grain of salt until independent reviews are coming.
@@FFVIII yeah. A while ago he was praising a Vizio soundbar, and Vizio soundbars are notorious for being built cheap and having tons of issues. I stopped trusting his reviews after that.
I love that when a company is confident in a product, they first send it to Linus because they know its not bullshit lol
ads haha
It shows they are confident it won't break when he drops it you mean 🤣
@@lorduggae hahaha so true 😂
Its a sponsored video , Linus is always a good boy in sponsored videos , thats kinda the point of Samsung paying him lol
Eh it’s not like Linus is an all knowing guy. There’s more than just one mistake in his Headphone videos
Off topic ik, but can someone tell me the name of the game at 8:34? I've seen it before but the name escapes me and I wanna google it so I know when it comes out.
Great video when are the QD Oleds be available
the advancement in display tech over the last few years has been absolutely nuts to see
I don’t really have a gauge on how much it’s advanced honestly. All of my displays are pretty old (5 years+). Waiting a couple years to finally upgrade so I I’ll be in for a treat I guess
Too bad the software they shove inside the TVs sucks ass :l I just want a big monitor ngl.
excepting monitors, yes.
On the monitor side we've been stuck for a while, with the exception of expensive miniLED which have blooming and slow response times. I hope this QD is the end and we finally get everything at once... I guess except price, but for this I'm willing to pay, just don't tell Samsung.
yes and no. beside OLED, nothing much happened. especially for monitors. the last decade was boring a.f. this is the first real innovation for a long time.
Samsung sponsored videos are the job interview equivalent of “My main flaws are that I care too much and I work too much!”
Had to stop watching after two minutes. Too much QVC vibe or advertorial.
Always the next tv is going to be perfect after you’ve committed to the last years amazing technology.
Humm, I wonder if this Backwards break down of colors could be applied into 3D DCC Content creation workflows and rendering? Almost seems like if you COULD crack the combo to make it all work, it would therefor DRASTICLY cut down on GPU\CPU draw calls. With texture coloring across each face already under the calculated frame by frame category. A hyper-boost to get to target color sphere such as this would be awesome.
This side by side comparison is so impressive it’s making my non hdr display look good. Impressive.
Not gonna lie this is hdr oled sucks for hdr anyway for rec709 if you put these display in rec709 they will look the same even if one is very bright but who cares I dont care for brightnes since I play in a very dark room
That purple water at 04:14 though... no thanks
Looks very promising. At the same time I’m skeptical about the claims about durability.
My guess is that using only blue LEDs will progressively eat at your initial brightness. It’s smart though, since most people won’t really notice their screens losing brightness over time.
I have a 10 years old plasma and to me i didn't notice any lost in brightness, but in reality it should be a lot diimer it's just that i don't notice it XD
Burn in concerns as a computer display, but if this is real and burn is not much of an issue, I would be sold!
One of the problems with current OLED displays is that there's a difference in how quickly each colour OLED will wear out.
At least with this one, since they're all blue OLEDs, the wear will be more consistent.
@@Mibok I had a plasma until about a year a go and I'm positive that my 1080p plasma could compete with the majority of 4k TVs today.
@@Nighterlev Do you know why they didn't continue with plasma?
Game at 8:35 is PLAN 8, in development Game by Pearl Abyss.
Is not yet released and expecting a beta in 2022 December.
so you’re telling me yellow is gonna be the best color on here? Oh god i can only imagine how good DUNE would look
$8k for a 55" Samsung QD-Oled is supreme premium I'd have to say. That's ridiculous.
8k hahaha not going to even think about it.
Yeah that's ridiculous. I'm more than fine with my Q8fn. I'll wait a few years before I upgrade.
Im definitely going to wait for the prices to go down lol
I would like to know the calibration settings of the lg TV in contrast to the Samsung. It's cool that Samsung finally jumped on the oled train to the future but I am entirely too skeptical on this comparison.
Yep you can't trust a comparison like that at all. Samsung most likely set the LG TV's color temperature way too high (because it looks extremely blue in many shots) and lowered the saturation to make the colors pop on their own TV. Also almost the entire video sounds like Samsung just handed Linus a script to read, or at least a big list of stuff he needs to talk about. This is why I don't like sponsored videos. You can't trust anything that's being said or shown.
Agreed - I own a C1 and the colors POP on my OLED. It looks nothing like what was depicted here
Samsung has been on the OLED train. They are largest manufacturer of OLED screen for mobile devices. Yet curiously enough, they aren't using this "revolutionary" new technology for their existing OLED screens. Seems kinda strange if you ask me.
@@nerdstrangler4804 That does seem suspicious but thats probably because it is just recently developed and not yet brought into small factor. And yes, I was aware that they are in the mobile screen Oled game but I was referring to the big screens.
@@Kepe My sentiments as well. I did utilise the dislike button on this video to express my distain and I hope more people do. That is how he will know that content like this hurts his credibility in the future. As someone else mentioned on a reply, my C1 2021 model is incredible. This reminds me of when Acura put their new TLX type S next to an Audi S4 in their unveiling on a quarter mile drag race. The TLX was faster than the S4 on that short of a drag, but when reviewers did a 1 mile drag race, it was revealed that the S4 was actually significantly faster than the TLX.
Does anyone know if these new QD-OLEDs also have the screen burn-in problem?
Funny Thing - Watching that Video on a 16" M1 Macbook Pro i could see a difference between both Display, on an old Surface Tablet i could not.
I trust Linus’ integrity to not deliberately mislead us, but I’ll reserve judgement for once these products are on the market and we get multiple independent reviews.
If these displays suck, it would permanently damage Samsung’s relation with LMG and it would be a significant problem for them in the future. I am expecting these prototypes to be better than anything currently on the consumer market as Linus said, but that isn’t surprising.
If anything, the competition is ALWAYS good for us consumers, because it would force LG to adapt and improve, even if these are just marginally better.
I have seen some other sites being super impressed by these too, but yes definitely better to wait for full in-depth reviews.
all I can tell you is that this "review" seems reaaaaally biased to me. He made it very clear it was sponsored by Samsung (and I can't even imagine how much they paid him to make an ad like that) and he usually is very picky and always presents things he didn't like or didn't go very well with the stuff he normally reviews. This time it really felt just like advertising, only saying how cool and awesome this new display is.
@@valberm he did say it has its flaws, and Samsung wouldn't answer some of their questions. My understanding is that they usually have to use some of the marketing terms phrases & buzzwords provided by the manufacturer, but they're still allowed to make their own opinion.
And yes this video is sponsored, but I don't believe all the early impressiond by other sites & journalists are.
@@valberm also by his own admission this isn't the full review. So reserve any judgement you have for that review.
linus has endorsed previous Samsung products like the G9 and Neo G9 but barely even talked about the huge problems those panels have. So yeah even reputable tech youtubers are supposed to be taken with a grain of salt nowadays
I'd question the calibration of the LG G1 test display Samsung is comparing it with.
This feels like a huge paid promo for Samsung.
It is sponsored by Samsung after all.
So what we watched was Linus telling us about his perspective after testing. I'll bet they tested the LG too. They're too big to be bought and you can see that in this vid. He can afford this tech and has a massive following of trusting individuals so this was smart advertising by Samsung.
Yeah, the LG OLED in general has pretty bad pre-calibration picture quality. But it's the factory default so that's totally LG's fault
You are correct, if you comparing something best samsung has to offer to any other, it should be obvious other side should be chosen in same range as well with similar configuration, comparison was one sided.
I dont like hdr it looks wrong anyway needs calibration and wait for a proper tv that can do over 10000nits for true hdr and none of the tone mapping you dont need it for displays that can go beyond 4000nits hdr right now is very complicated I wont use it it looks very unatural too me and my darkroom setting looks natural but hey not everyone wants a realistic colour display I may buy the 42inch oled and calibrate rec709 and enjoy it darkroom last for over 10 years at 100nits brightnes
I just want a display that will look great for 10 years calibrated
Sure ile love a true rgb tv but with oled it looks better in darkroom anyway I hate reflections3
do they have a 38-43" 120hz with freesync support TV? i've only been looking for one for 10 years...found a few monitors in that size within the last couple of years...but they aren't practically affordable...it's odd a 43" of said thing is 1100 bucks but i can get a 55" with same capability for like 900 bucks...750 on sale...
So are you going to review the new qd oled alienware?
I realize its your camera settings you recorded in, but the qd-oled looks like it constantly blows/crushes out color losing tons of detail and looking way too saturated
it's their silly LUTs
Samsung always blows out their colors
Was thinking the same I liked the left a whole lot more
We need our own eyes on these
It’s not just their camera.
"Better in every way"
.. except of the price ofc.
yeah why would the price be the same when it cost more to make? not defending these corporation's but its dumb to pretend like the newest technology is affordable
pretty hard to convey this over a video, ill have to see it in person
I always wonder about display settings with these side by side comparisons
We know samsung flew out linus and the crew because samsung knew he wouldn't have a chance in dropping it. In all seriousness I hope this tech will make it to their mobile line, it would be a big marketing move for range topper galaxy devices
Nah Samsung Display sells to all kinds of manufacturers. More money to be made selling your display technology to competitors, effectively getting a % of their revenue.
Samsung is full of crap.
@@deeppurplefan so are you
To me it seems to be more a damage control move, since Sony just today has announced this very same panel and it seems that it will be available before than the Samsung one.
Note that Samsung Display isn't directly the part of Samsung that makes the phones. Clearly, they could put them in their own devices first, but Samsung generally is more of an OEM than a direct company.
Thanks for breaking down concepts like colour space and pixel layout so effectively! Its not easy to walk the line between being too technical/too dumbed down.
What would happen to the peak brightness if deterenium is used on blue oled?
Man I am so happy with my LG C1 65” it will take years for something to convince me to change my mind. The TV is perfect for my dark room setup, I wouldn’t want more brightness even if it was knocking at my door lol. It’s good that Samsung is trying though 👍🏼
well to be honest, this QD OLED looks more like over saturating everything. and that is in a bad way. maybe it's because of the youtube video compression
Please don't judge TV image quality through a camera displayed on a different device with a different color profile. 😅
Samsung TV’s are naturally oversaturated as heck. Sony will be getting QD-OLED though and they are naturally far more color accurate.
Watching the video of QD-OLED on IPS display the contrast is not good either j/k
Too many variables.
Most new tvs have a calibrated picture mode that's much closer to true colors.
@@DeepteshLovesTECH Well the TV on the left has a much better image IMO, QD OLED looked ultra saturated and blurry.
This video feels INCREDIBLY “sponsored by Samsung”, which was clearly stated to your credit. Even so, I found a lot of the statements made to be very dubious given my experience with Samsungs.
I’m expecting these OLEDs to be brighter (good) and with the immense oversaturation that Samsung is known for (eh). I’d love to be proven wrong, but I guess only time will tell.
setting anecdotes aside, it really depends product to product - Samsung has their share of poop releases but some pc monitors and a tv I'd gotten over past decades have performed & held up well - I'm excited for QD-OLED in general regardless of brand
I have no doubt the new Samsung TVs look amazing but he made it seem like the current popular OLEDs like the LG C1 look like shit. I have a C1 and it looks mindblowing especially with Dolby Vision/HDR content. What I also like about the C1 is that I don't have any eye strain from it. The picture can be pretty bright with HDR in a pitch black room and I could watch all night and my eyes would be fine. I wonder how that is with the new Samsung TVs. Having a very bright picture might look impressive at first but if you watch it for hours your eyes might start to hurt.
@@scarface11991 this is not about how bad or good your old tv is clam down a,d enjoy your Dolby whatever the video is about a new tech and sometimes new tech is better and you have to accepte that.
@@hamzacrouzou6325 like I said I have no doubt the new Samsung TVs look better and more impressive but he made it seem that everything else looks bad when in reality it's not even close to looking bad.
@@scarface11991 Linus comes back to earth in the conclusion section, the first sections made me cringe. But it's sponsored content so he has to make his Samsung corporate overlords happy on this video.
Learning about quantum dots was a treat
this definitely feels like something that i hope continues to improve, though by the time this qdot get low enough in price for me to get it(i am currently using a 100-200 dollar TV screen as a monitor), there would probably be a new advanced version coming out.
Bro, you are a GOD at DMC. Keep it up
@@OhitsPiggy i think you may have the wrong person
Biggest takeaway for me is hope that the price of regular OLED TV's go down thanks to this new tech.
Same, will probably be on the market for a 65" at the end of the year, and I really hope WOLED is going down, at least a bit.
OLEDs don't typically even last 2 years without burn in, it's a waste of money
@@drunkhusband6257 spoken like someone who has never owned a oled. I’ve put over 6000 hours in my lg cx oled with 0 issues and have never babied it once. I use it for gaming and watching movies
It should be ever cheaper one day as it's basically simplified OLED (emits just one color) mixed with Quantum dots Samsung already sells even in cheap TVs. But now it's a new tech.
@@drunkhusband6257 Rubbish 😂✌️
This felt a lot like a 20 minute ad than your typical LTT video showing off new tech from a fair standpoint.
That's pretty much what LTT is now.
Samsung told Linus don’t forget to put the watch on too.
*this is literally QLED but behind an OLED, quantum dot and blue light has been shown as the way forward stop gap technology before microLED comes out*
This looks really really good. A shame it’ll be super expensive (relatively, for me). If only the monitors were less expensive (which I still don’t understand why they’re so damm expensive).
Hopefully prices will drop over the next year or three. Maybe they'll be like how IPS kinda became the norm for high end gaming monitors.
Hopefully prices eventually go down as they make more of these panels.
@@Neoxon619 Yeah we'll get there eventually and we have some solid technologies getting cheaper now as well
LG's 42" OLED will likely be around $1K USD. Less in a year or two when they clear inventory for new models. Cut back on other expenses, save up, sell your old monitor and that's very obtainable.
Two simple reasons. R&D costs and the fact this is a new TV & Monitor they have designed. That means parts are expensive and that cost is passed on to us. In a few years, the price will come down as parts become cheaper and they improve on the building process.
To me this whole new "bright" didn't seem at all natural and it actually felt like everything turned purple instead of lighter.
To be fair, you're inevitably watching it through a screen with worse colour representation. It's like those marketing bits that try to show the difference between refresh rates on a still image, you can't compare it without equal or better hardware.
@@mattieb98 that is what I was thinking to get an accurate opinion you probably need to see it face to face imo
That's your own display pal 😂. You would need to see it in person to fully understand the spectrum that it shows.
The brightness has been compressed to something that can be displayed in this UA-cam video. It's not the same as the dynamic range your eyes would be seeing it in person. But you can clearly tell the color representation is much truer in this new display.
@@petrolhead0387 no it fucking isn't, this is just some random samsung sponsored video with insane saturation, it looks fucking purple can't even see the individual roses in the right display, samsung shit as always
when does it come out
i wanna get one
I love the clickbait title immediately toned down by the "sponsored by samsung" announcement
I appreciate that Linus acknowledges this was a curated set of tests and that Samsung sponsored them, makes the whole thing feel more honest
Required by law
required by law and either way that makes the entire video pointless and biased. It's literally a 20 min ad.
@@user-hh5pj5jv8p Eh. Most of us have enough trust in Linus and the team to not lie to us. Sure, you have to take this with a pinch of salt, but that goes for everything and at least they make it clear here.
@@banaana1234 here's the issue tho, you guys don't know Linus personally. All UA-camrs put a persona and to think you know them based on watching their videos is naive. You guys don't know if he'd truly do that.
@@user-hh5pj5jv8p We don't, but I've watched these videos long enough to reasonably believe that he and the team didn't make an exception from the usual form of trustworthiness. Ill gladly accept that that they are trying to trick us if that gets proven, and if they got proven to be shady even once, I'd put a lot less trust in them. But, LMG has pretty much always been open and honest, and all the claims in the video seem plausible so I don't really have a reason to not believe them.
This looks amazing! However, given Samsung’s history with tech/appliances not getting technical support, I’m hesitant.
As long as they push the tech ahead, it will be fine.
Other companies will adopt the tech and it will become standard.
My problem is Samsung's decision to force ads on their paying customers. You put down thousands of dollars for a TV, and still get ads in the TV menu. Insanity.
Samsung ads in the system OS too...
Samsung sell this panels to other companies too. Sony's new flagship TVs announced today also use the same QD OLED panels made by Samsung but with their own processors, software and exclusive features
samsung tends to distribute their tech to competitors so possibly won't take that long for you to just buy an apple tv with it instead or something
Me watching the high quality monitor with my low quality monitor: "Wow it does look really good"
hey when did linus tech tips get bought by the new tomshardware? change the light bulbs in your room back to monofilament, the yellow light from those bulbs will have the same effect on the monitor screens of current gen Led and Oled and Va and Tn panels by using warm lighting to achieve the same affect.
Worked on the inkjet printing technology involved in QD-OLED. So glad that this product has finally come to fruition!
Care to elaborate?
@@zaki-fd2fd No. I'm under NDA.
congrats!
I still gonna wait for reviews in an uncontrolled environment but it looks promising
That’s all you can do man. Thankfully we have return policies! As annoying as it would be.
Forget reviews, nowadays just try it and return it if it doesn't live up to your expectation. The ultimate reviewer is yourself with your own eyes.
I should add, reviews are still mega appreciated. Since I only need to try 1-3 TVs/monitors instead. A guided search is better than with no information.
@@QuantumConundrum Absolutely. I bought the Sony A80J thinking that it would be the TV for me. Then when it reached my living room I was unimpressed with the picture quality. So I returned it for an LG C1 (which was cheaper) and haven't looked back since.
Will these only have 2 x HDMI 2.1 (having VRR and ALLM) ports?
Maybe its just how its recorded but it looks blown out to me. I have a new low cost OLED from LG and its plenty bright even with the window curtains open.
When properly calibrated I doubt you'll see much difference in the color unless you hike up the brightness. For reliable comparison, hdtvtest is the only credible source.
True.
but it's sponsored by samsung?
Problem is prices so expensive for years after release
How long before there will be a QD Oled ultrawide samsung G9 neo game screen????!!!!
I have always been interested in Samsungs QD-OLED technology since they first started researching into it. However, as I do a deeper dive into some of the more elusive questions (i.e How do the layers of the pixel direct the blue light within itself to the correct QD printed color? Quantum Confinement. What is quantum confinement? The spatial confinement of electron-hole pairs (excitons) in one or more dimensions within a material...), I really start to marvel at the complexity of a television that will be obsolete in relatively a blink of the eye.
Yeah, when Linus mentioned "quantum dots" I felt a little dizzy. That kind of thing was a theory when I was in university, and now they're in consumer electronics.
Quantum dots take the place of the colour filters that exist in WOLEDs. Each pixel in the QD-OLED would have 3 sub-pixels of Red (QD-Red), Green (QD-green), and Blue (no QD, just pass through). So imagine printing a giant array of dots on a clear substrate that would be Red, Green, Blank. QD is really just a colour filter (sort of)
I remember being impressed when I read that CRT worked by bending a ray of electrons. A signal controlled by "electromagnets" and precisely scanning the screen. Then CLUSTERING THREE of those electron rays and aiming with even more precision to a screen mask with three color filters, so small that I couldn't differentiate each component at 1 meter distance. That might be the thing that made me fell in love with electronics. It's magic, black magic... quantum magic.
@@BlacklistBill but why put filters in a w-oled, if the sub pixels are already generating the proper colours - weird.
As a local dumbass, i dont understand anything, but you sound cool!
sus 0:16
I love the fact, that a trusted scandinavian A/V expert links this video to best explain what QD-OLED is ..
I mist say first couple of comparison images, the qd-ooed were blown out in the details. Like the field of tulips, the left image shift much better details, right was almost blown out completely