Lots of people commenting negatively on the internet about fan being placed in the basement, but lets set some things straight. Actually Canada says the basement is the best location to prevent damage to the fan. I live in Fishers Indiana, and the city allows installation of the fan in the basement. If you think about it, if you don't allow the Fan to be located in the basement, then you should not allow gas furnaces or gas water heaters to be located in the basement. As Canada says regarding radon fan installation, "properly installed fans and pipes will not leak radon into the building and are usually installed in the basement". I will soon be installing my Radon Fan in the basement, no doubt about it.
It doesn't matter what canada says if you are in the USA and vice versa. It has to be to code. All these poor suckers getting "taught" will fail a house inspection and held liable if they ever wanna sell their house....
Per our city building department we can place the fan in the basement, and same for other cities around us. Therefore no problem passing inspection when selling a house in Fishers Indiana or Carmel Indiana as an example.
Also many homes in our area with professionally installed systems don’t have their exhaust pipes much above the first floor if even that (no where near the roof line, etc.). Theses homes sell just fine because it meets our city building department code.
@@wd8dsb @wd8dsb doesn't matter tbh. If you are presenting information in a diy setting you should inform people that what you are doing needs to be checked against local code as this does not meet code in the vast majority of the USA. Also I just looked up carmel's building code and unless the city office says otherwise thier website link takes you to the state code which requires 10 inches above a roof line as well. Anyways it doesn't really matter what the city says is good. Radon is a dense gas that enters your building through the soil. Seems rather stupid to discharge it at ground level and let it pool back down into windowells, soil and back into your basement. As far as the pump being inside that is just a dumb code requirement. But not venting it above the roofline is just kinda stupid imo.
@@jsf11fra Hi John, Yes, the Carmel Building/Engineering department as well as the Fishers Building/Engineering department said they do not regulate radon mitigation systems and radon mitigation systems can be installed however the homeowner desires and they have no problem with the fan being installed in the basement (I obtained this information from them on the phone). Actually when all was said and done I did install my fan in my attic because I did not want added noise in my basement, but I made sure I insulated the entire pipe in the attic both below and above the fan to keep the discharge air as warm as possible during the winter to prevent icing (also during the summer the motor should run cooler because the discharge is not getting heated by the surrounding attic environment with the insulation in place). My system has been in service for a year and no fan problems and the motor is still silent from inside the house. You mention about window wells, but not sure that is any worse then discharging the radon above your house on a calm day and letting the radon gas drop down where it can then enter open windows on levels of the house which are occupied more than the basement. Also in many window wells there are drains that eventually make their way back to your sump pit which is sealed in a radon mitigation system. My DIY install worked out great and my commercial radon tests return results below detectable levels. It was nice that my house already was piped with a passive system and I just needed to install the fan, seal the basement floor perimeter as well as some cracks in the floor. I also had to seal the lid on my sump pump pit and my existing lid made that easy as I installed stainless anchors in my floor, installed window foam sealing material on the bottom edge of the sump pump lid, and used stainless bolts to secure the lid to the floor. I also installed a cap designed for radon discharge pipes on the end of my discharge pipe that's on my roof and it prevents rain from directly entering the pipe and it also prevents animals from entering the pipe. Have a wonderful 2021, and thanks for the discussion.
Are you concerned with the vent getting blocked by snow in winter? Also, how would you rate the noise of this unit (both from inside the living space in the house, and out in the yard)?
Hi, it is venting air from the house and it is moving a lot of air constantly. No bugs no snow. The motor is very quiet. I'm sure if you call the company they can give you more detail on the decibels. We have more home improvement tips on our weekly podcast castbox.fm/u/6389499.
Hi, increasing air movement helps reduce radon levels, but for a consistent reduction you would want some type of fan designed for radon that moves enough air all day. Check out more home improvement tips in our e-books www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B2KW1FQ9?notRedirectToSDP=1&.
How is the radon getting pulled from a sealed septic lift pump. That does not look like a sump pit that would be connected to drain tile, It is a sealed pit!?
What building code is everyone talking about? The only thing I can see in the national code pertains to mitigation systems installed in new building construction. What retrofit rules mandate adherence to EPA federal "guidelines"? I just saw my (Illinois) neighbor's building inspector flag his Tjernlund-based thru-the-wall solution, but there doesn't appear to be any teeth to the EPA guidelines for DIY mitigators. Thanks in advance.
Hi, I couldn't find the decibels on their website. This is at a friend's home and they say the sound isn't loud enough to bother them in the living space above it.
@@FIXITHomeImprovementChannel not loud enough to bother suggests they CAN hear it though. Can they? I would think more traditional radon fans installed outdoor wouldn't be heard at all from the inside. Is that a correct assumption?
Nothing wrong with install procedure and good video. However, the fan must be located outside the conditioned space and vent above the roofline. Doubt this product would pass code and would be a finding in a home inspection causing headaches later
John Powell that was my understanding as well, fan has to be outside the living space. I live in IL same as this install.. Can't imagine this would pass inspection or actually be safe... Has something changed or is this fan different in any way?
Lots of people commenting negatively on the internet about fan being placed in the basement, but lets set some things straight. Actually Canada says the basement is the best location to prevent damage to the fan. I live in Fishers Indiana, and the city allows installation of the fan in the basement (as does our neighboring city Carmel Indiana). If you think about it, if you don't allow the Fan to be located in the basement, then you should not allow gas furnaces or gas water heaters to be located in the basement. As Canada says regarding radon fan installation, "properly installed fans and pipes will not leak radon into the building and are usually installed in the basement". I will soon be installing my Radon Fan in the basement, no doubt about it. I'm really glad I don't live in parts of the US that deem the recommendations of the EPA as Gospel (which is what the NRSB has done) regarding not allowing the Fan to be placed below living spaces.
Fan has to be outside and vent hast to extend above the roof line and at least two feet from any windows. This definitely "works for now" but will fail any inspection and have to be redone if house is to be sold.
Depends on what your city building code is. I live in Fishers Indiana and fans are allowed to be installed in the basement and exhaust does not need to be above the roof line, etc. it all depends on where you live.
FYI, this manufacturer changed the pre-installed flanges to be 4" diameter, not 3" anymore. Everyone was using 4" PVC anyway, so they must have increased the size.
Hi, this is in Illinois. The long term radon level was over 7 and the short term before we installed the system was over 9. 2 days after installing the system the radon level was at 1.45. We will be stopping back in a week or so to see how its doing. So far it's pretty impressive.
Hi, I've installed a few different types of basement and crawlspace ventilation systems in homes of family, friends and my home. In all the homes the radon level was reduced to a safe level. I took some training from Tjernlund and they said that any radon vented out gets diluted with outside air, so it's not a problem. We used Air Advice and AirThings monitors to check the levels before and after. A couple of our friends picked up air monitors to keep track and so far the systems are keeping radon at a safe level. From my experience these systems make a big difference in the radon level and a homeowner can install it themselves.
Lots of people commenting negatively on the internet about fan being placed in the basement, but lets set some things straight. Actually Canada says the basement is the best location to prevent damage to the fan. I live in Fishers Indiana, and the city allows installation of the fan in the basement. If you think about it, if you don't allow the Fan to be located in the basement, then you should not allow gas furnaces or gas water heaters to be located in the basement. As Canada says regarding radon fan installation, "properly installed fans and pipes will not leak radon into the building and are usually installed in the basement". I will soon be installing my Radon Fan in the basement, no doubt about it.
It doesn't matter what canada says if you are in the USA and vice versa. It has to be to code. All these poor suckers getting "taught" will fail a house inspection and held liable if they ever wanna sell their house....
Per our city building department we can place the fan in the basement, and same for other cities around us. Therefore no problem passing inspection when selling a house in Fishers Indiana or Carmel Indiana as an example.
Also many homes in our area with professionally installed systems don’t have their exhaust pipes much above the first floor if even that (no where near the roof line, etc.). Theses homes sell just fine because it meets our city building department code.
@@wd8dsb @wd8dsb doesn't matter tbh. If you are presenting information in a diy setting you should inform people that what you are doing needs to be checked against local code as this does not meet code in the vast majority of the USA.
Also I just looked up carmel's building code and unless the city office says otherwise thier website link takes you to the state code which requires 10 inches above a roof line as well.
Anyways it doesn't really matter what the city says is good. Radon is a dense gas that enters your building through the soil. Seems rather stupid to discharge it at ground level and let it pool back down into windowells, soil and back into your basement. As far as the pump being inside that is just a dumb code requirement. But not venting it above the roofline is just kinda stupid imo.
@@jsf11fra Hi John, Yes, the Carmel Building/Engineering department as well as the Fishers Building/Engineering department said they do not regulate radon mitigation systems and radon mitigation systems can be installed however the homeowner desires and they have no problem with the fan being installed in the basement (I obtained this information from them on the phone). Actually when all was said and done I did install my fan in my attic because I did not want added noise in my basement, but I made sure I insulated the entire pipe in the attic both below and above the fan to keep the discharge air as warm as possible during the winter to prevent icing (also during the summer the motor should run cooler because the discharge is not getting heated by the surrounding attic environment with the insulation in place). My system has been in service for a year and no fan problems and the motor is still silent from inside the house. You mention about window wells, but not sure that is any worse then discharging the radon above your house on a calm day and letting the radon gas drop down where it can then enter open windows on levels of the house which are occupied more than the basement. Also in many window wells there are drains that eventually make their way back to your sump pit which is sealed in a radon mitigation system. My DIY install worked out great and my commercial radon tests return results below detectable levels. It was nice that my house already was piped with a passive system and I just needed to install the fan, seal the basement floor perimeter as well as some cracks in the floor. I also had to seal the lid on my sump pump pit and my existing lid made that easy as I installed stainless anchors in my floor, installed window foam sealing material on the bottom edge of the sump pump lid, and used stainless bolts to secure the lid to the floor. I also installed a cap designed for radon discharge pipes on the end of my discharge pipe that's on my roof and it prevents rain from directly entering the pipe and it also prevents animals from entering the pipe. Have a wonderful 2021, and thanks for the discussion.
Can this fan be installed with the floor joist running perpendicular? shoulder to shoulder ?
Are you concerned with the vent getting blocked by snow in winter? Also, how would you rate the noise of this unit (both from inside the living space in the house, and out in the yard)?
Hi, it is venting air from the house and it is moving a lot of air constantly. No bugs no snow. The motor is very quiet. I'm sure if you call the company they can give you more detail on the decibels.
We have more home improvement tips on our weekly podcast castbox.fm/u/6389499.
@@FIXITHomeImprovementChannel , thanks!
could i use a window fan and still get the job done?
Hi, increasing air movement helps reduce radon levels, but for a consistent reduction you would want some type of fan designed for radon that moves enough air all day.
Check out more home improvement tips in our e-books www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B2KW1FQ9?notRedirectToSDP=1&.
@@FIXITHomeImprovementChannel that makes sense….. thanks for the reply
How is the radon getting pulled from a sealed septic lift pump. That does not look like a sump pit that would be connected to drain tile, It is a sealed pit!?
Hi, here is a good article.
www.lchh.org/radon/sump-pumps-and-radon
What building code is everyone talking about? The only thing I can see in the national code pertains to mitigation systems installed in new building construction. What retrofit rules mandate adherence to EPA federal "guidelines"? I just saw my (Illinois) neighbor's building inspector flag his Tjernlund-based thru-the-wall solution, but there doesn't appear to be any teeth to the EPA guidelines for DIY mitigators. Thanks in advance.
Do you have any idea how loud the fan ended up being? was it noticeably loud?
Hi, I couldn't find the decibels on their website. This is at a friend's home and they say the sound isn't loud enough to bother them in the living space above it.
@@FIXITHomeImprovementChannel Thanks!!
@@FIXITHomeImprovementChannel not loud enough to bother suggests they CAN hear it though. Can they? I would think more traditional radon fans installed outdoor wouldn't be heard at all from the inside. Is that a correct assumption?
I just heard that a radon fun can not be install in a basement or crawl space, it can be install in a attic.
Here is some information www.tjernlund.com/radonvac.htm
Nothing wrong with install procedure and good video. However, the fan must be located outside the conditioned space and vent above the roofline. Doubt this product would pass code and would be a finding in a home inspection causing headaches later
John Powell that was my understanding as well, fan has to be outside the living space. I live in IL same as this install.. Can't imagine this would pass inspection or actually be safe... Has something changed or is this fan different in any way?
Lots of people commenting negatively on the internet about fan being placed in the basement, but lets set some things straight. Actually Canada says the basement is the best location to prevent damage to the fan. I live in Fishers Indiana, and the city allows installation of the fan in the basement (as does our neighboring city Carmel Indiana). If you think about it, if you don't allow the Fan to be located in the basement, then you should not allow gas furnaces or gas water heaters to be located in the basement. As Canada says regarding radon fan installation, "properly installed fans and pipes will not leak radon into the building and are usually installed in the basement". I will soon be installing my Radon Fan in the basement, no doubt about it. I'm really glad I don't live in parts of the US that deem the recommendations of the EPA as Gospel (which is what the NRSB has done) regarding not allowing the Fan to be placed below living spaces.
Fan has to be outside and vent hast to extend above the roof line and at least two feet from any windows. This definitely "works for now" but will fail any inspection and have to be redone if house is to be sold.
Depends on what your city building code is. I live in Fishers Indiana and fans are allowed to be installed in the basement and exhaust does not need to be above the roof line, etc. it all depends on where you live.
@Jeff Conard if it’s in the basement and there’s a leak at the fan it’s pumping right into the living space. In the attic it’s a different situation
FYI, this manufacturer changed the pre-installed flanges to be 4" diameter, not 3" anymore. Everyone was using 4" PVC anyway, so they must have increased the size.
What state is this?
Hi, this is in Illinois. The long term radon level was over 7 and the short term before we installed the system was over 9. 2 days after installing the system the radon level was at 1.45. We will be stopping back in a week or so to see how its doing. So far it's pretty impressive.
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Can you spell the name of the manufacturer please?
Tjernlund Radon Fan
Don't you need to put a pipe to direct the radon gas up over the roof?
Hi, I've installed a few different types of basement and crawlspace ventilation systems in homes of family, friends and my home. In all the homes the radon level was reduced to a safe level. I took some training from Tjernlund and they said that any radon vented out gets diluted with outside air, so it's not a problem. We used Air Advice and AirThings monitors to check the levels before and after. A couple of our friends picked up air monitors to keep track and so far the systems are keeping radon at a safe level.
From my experience these systems make a big difference in the radon level and a homeowner can install it themselves.