I am old enough that I did learn on fly bar and am happy to have had that experience. Could make it fly as smooth as fly bar less but the wise choice was not to become distracted and look away from it. Yours may be a little sluggish but it is making torque, that's ok, just call it your low headspeed heli 😀
I learned on fly bar with no gyro! I remember those days lol it definitely brought back some memories! It definitely has the torque. The governor is not 100% set right! I’m gonna mess around with it and get the head speed back up to around 2000 RPM. Definitely needs to be sped up, servos are slow lol
I got my first Nitro Heli on Chrismas '22. I is a Thunder Tiger RAPTOR 50! Old one with Paddle. Bought it used and i needed to prep a lot. Now it seems to work and i'm only waiting for a good day for the maiden...
This just appeared on my UA-cam feed, I remember when this heli came out, now it's "old", I'm not sure how I feel about that 😔 Not flown RC in 15 years now, thanks for the nostalgia trip!
I remember when it came out as well, I had one (still do but it’s FBL now and fully updated) unfortunately helis changed so much that even a two year old model is old.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Yeah this video suggestion has got me going down a deep rabbit hole tonight, helicopters are crazy now! The first heli I flew was the Hirobo Shuttle back in around 2002 but my parents wouldn't let me buy one until I was 16 when I got a Trex 450XL, I think it was the one with the yellow blow molded canopy. CCPM was advance back then! I worked in the industry when I turned 18, when things started really advancing, working along side Mikado when they released the Logo 600 and V-Bar, in fact I was one of the first to fly the V-Bar in the UK back in the day. Ended up owning the Logo 14, 400, 500, 600, Trex 500 and my last purchase was the Avant Aurora with a YS 91 and Hatori pipe. I sold all the gear on when I left the hobby in about 2008, but still have the painted canopy for the Avant in my loft along side the Futaba gyro, I think it was a GY611? Either way, I had a great time in the hobby, maybe I'll pick it back up some day
@@Pastronomer69 that’s awesome history! I remember all of that as well. I got in the helicopters back in 97/98. I was really young and I’ve learned on a GMP cricket that my grandfather would make the parts four so I could continue to learn how to fly. Helicopters have come a very long way and FBL units servos motors all of that it’s just incredible now. Mikado is still around and doing great things. They just released a brand new radio and FBL. You should definitely get back into it! Get yourself another small Helicopter and get your fingers back! Welcome to the channel!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Wow the GMP Cricket, that's a real blast from the past. My good friend learnt to fly on one of those I think. Thankfully by the time I got my first heli things had moved on a little. The company I worked for in 2007-2009 was a major LiPo manufacturer and we were pushing new tech like crazy, along side a load of brands we worked with. It was a great time, I remember when a 400 brushed motor and NiCads were normal and within a few short years I had a 33% Krill Katana fully electric, now that's almost normal I bet. As I say it was a great time, I got to fly all over the world with my hobby. Joe Nall 2009 was such a memorable life experience for some kid from England! I remember I took my Aurora over there for the first time they had opened a heli line, just a few minutes into the first flight I had stuck it into the ground. Thankfully some kind folks let me fly their stuff for the rest of the week. That friend of mine who I just mentioned has a bunch of OMP M2's (probably our chat of it brought the suggested vids up on my youtube) and wanted to sell one... which I've just gone and bought off him. Looks like I'm back in the game! I blame you for this 😅
The most successfull Model that have ever been produced. It is still one of the best and high quality helis in my opnion. I have also the raw 580 nitro but still this T rex can not be beaten in my opinion.
It’s a great model! Personally, I like the RAW 580 nitro way more! It’s so much better flying and solid in my opinion but the Trex 600n will always hold a special place in my heart!
So a question, my dad still has the Kalt Baron 60 I first learned on, only thing I need to refurbish is the main rotor gear. You know where is best to look for those parts? I found a whole body and gear a while back, but didn't jump on it. Sad I didn't either.
Your best place is going to be looking on eBay as well as maybe the vintage helicopter group on Facebook. Unfortunately with the older models it is extremely difficult to find parts and depending on the model it can be even more difficult. I would just keep searching and looking.
man you got to get that raptor 50 up and running. I'm just getting back in to it after about 12 years my friend got me back in to it after he brought an old 400 size walkera it was all metal head as well and got it for 25 bucks, I have had to learn it all over again so i got me a tx16smk2 a blade fusion 180 smart alot has changed older heli's seemed easy to setup on controller side but the heli's are more complex and alot more parts to, But now for me is its the other way around complex radio's and simpler heli's with less parts, Took me awhile to learn how it all works watching youtube scanning forums an truck loads of reading and manage to get the fusion 180 up and flying with the default heli setup and some tweaking it is very smooth to fly I had raptor 30 v2 to learn on abit nervous with that and reget selling it, Then I move on to a blade 4003D it was alot of fun still have it and going to convert it to a flybarless head for it and see how i go. love your work mate keep it up.
Thank you! I greatly appreciate it. So personally the TX16S is probably the hardest radio to learn lol helis now are so simple! The FBL setup and heli setup is very straight forward once you get the hang of it. If you have a spektrum radio then you would be setup and flying in minutes. Mainly because there is a heli template already there where on the TX16S you have to set everything! The fusion 180 is a great model and one of my favorite Blade models. I’m working on the Raptor 50 as we speak! Videos very soon! Definitely excited to fly that one! Glad to hear you getting back into the hobby!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 the one I have is a century predictor given to me and no electronics so new to this and would be nice if there’s a setup video showing how
@@plproductions8887 that’s a old but good model in its day. Only problem with models like is parts but anything can be converted. I’m going to show two different ways to convert. One with buying a FBL head and one with modifying the FB head.
Definitely not, FlyBarLess all day for a beginner. Couple reasons but the main reason is simplicity of the head. A lot less parts, a lot less linkage is to adjust and get right. You can tune a FBL unit to your liking really slow the model down I have multiple flight modes. And they are a lot more locked in as well as rescue features and auto level.
You can look online and see the stock setting but I would start with 2 to 2 1/2 turns out from closed on the High end and probably one and a quarter turns out from closed on the low end. Start Rich and lean it down down from there.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 hello my friend got the heli running so nice now thanks to u can u tell me if I whant to put a 2cell lipo on it cause I have a electric glow ignitor on it what would be the best regulator would the align 2in1 be ok
You all guys talking about how flybar helis are vintage but i have always flown flybar helis 😂, i have my old 2010 t-rex 450 pro with flybar, and of course a Raptor 50 Titan SE with a Redline .53 engine, and the only thing that keeps me out of it flying is that eventually the muffler keeps getting loose and the screws ends somewhere in the fly field. I have tried to make a bigger hole with a longer screw and use a nut on the muffler side but stills keep getting loose. Definetly this is something that nitro helis lose against electrics hahahah. Greetings from Venezuela
Great to keep the old choppers in the air. Well done 👍🏻 love it
Yes it is! Definitely brought back a lot of memories! Thank you.
I got the same one in storage for at least 15 years 😁
You need to get it out and get it flying!
Another great Trex 600N video, good job! This the best helicopter ever, and still flying.
Thank you! More Trex 600n videos coming!
I've still got my thunder tiger raptor hanging in the garage. It's been 20 plus years for me.
Very nice, I’ve got a Thunder tiger Raptor 50 in a AS355 fuse. Will start on that project soon!
Yesss my favorite Align model!
Flybar is what i started with too. Such a different world.
Cant wait to buy one myself! 😍
A very different world! It took me a little bit to remember how to setup a Flybar Heli again! FBL is no nice! Lol
This brings back some good memories!
cool to see this old heli fly again. great job setting it back up. man that does look sluggish!
This brings back memories, thank you for this :)
You’re welcome! It bought back a lot of memories for me as well!
I am old enough that I did learn on fly bar and am happy to have had that experience. Could make it fly as smooth as fly bar less but the wise choice was not to become distracted and look away from it. Yours may be a little sluggish but it is making torque, that's ok, just call it your low headspeed heli 😀
Me too, in fact my favorite is a 9 year old KDS 450 Inonva 👌🏻
I learned on fly bar with no gyro! I remember those days lol it definitely brought back some memories! It definitely has the torque. The governor is not 100% set right! I’m gonna mess around with it and get the head speed back up to around 2000 RPM. Definitely needs to be sped up, servos are slow lol
@@westhobbiesrc8051 You may know of Dave "nightflyyer" Herbert. A true pioneer who would say "if you don't like what the gyro is doing unplug it 😁
I got my first Nitro Heli on Chrismas '22. I is a Thunder Tiger RAPTOR 50! Old one with Paddle. Bought it used and i needed to prep a lot. Now it seems to work and i'm only waiting for a good day for the maiden...
I’ve got a raptor 50 as well, very nice model. And I will be making video soon on it. It’s time for you to start it up and go fly! Lol
This just appeared on my UA-cam feed, I remember when this heli came out, now it's "old", I'm not sure how I feel about that 😔 Not flown RC in 15 years now, thanks for the nostalgia trip!
I remember when it came out as well, I had one (still do but it’s FBL now and fully updated) unfortunately helis changed so much that even a two year old model is old.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Yeah this video suggestion has got me going down a deep rabbit hole tonight, helicopters are crazy now! The first heli I flew was the Hirobo Shuttle back in around 2002 but my parents wouldn't let me buy one until I was 16 when I got a Trex 450XL, I think it was the one with the yellow blow molded canopy. CCPM was advance back then!
I worked in the industry when I turned 18, when things started really advancing, working along side Mikado when they released the Logo 600 and V-Bar, in fact I was one of the first to fly the V-Bar in the UK back in the day. Ended up owning the Logo 14, 400, 500, 600, Trex 500 and my last purchase was the Avant Aurora with a YS 91 and Hatori pipe. I sold all the gear on when I left the hobby in about 2008, but still have the painted canopy for the Avant in my loft along side the Futaba gyro, I think it was a GY611?
Either way, I had a great time in the hobby, maybe I'll pick it back up some day
@@Pastronomer69 that’s awesome history! I remember all of that as well. I got in the helicopters back in 97/98. I was really young and I’ve learned on a GMP cricket that my grandfather would make the parts four so I could continue to learn how to fly. Helicopters have come a very long way and FBL units servos motors all of that it’s just incredible now. Mikado is still around and doing great things. They just released a brand new radio and FBL. You should definitely get back into it! Get yourself another small Helicopter and get your fingers back! Welcome to the channel!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Wow the GMP Cricket, that's a real blast from the past. My good friend learnt to fly on one of those I think. Thankfully by the time I got my first heli things had moved on a little.
The company I worked for in 2007-2009 was a major LiPo manufacturer and we were pushing new tech like crazy, along side a load of brands we worked with. It was a great time, I remember when a 400 brushed motor and NiCads were normal and within a few short years I had a 33% Krill Katana fully electric, now that's almost normal I bet. As I say it was a great time, I got to fly all over the world with my hobby. Joe Nall 2009 was such a memorable life experience for some kid from England! I remember I took my Aurora over there for the first time they had opened a heli line, just a few minutes into the first flight I had stuck it into the ground. Thankfully some kind folks let me fly their stuff for the rest of the week.
That friend of mine who I just mentioned has a bunch of OMP M2's (probably our chat of it brought the suggested vids up on my youtube) and wanted to sell one... which I've just gone and bought off him. Looks like I'm back in the game! I blame you for this 😅
I have faith in you, Jeff! 😊👍
Thank you Larry!
Damn the old flybar
Yes it is! Old school!
I freaking love it
Your kind of model!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 I would fly it
You can!
Jeff, would you demonstrate autorotating in a video sometime? I think that would be pretty neat to watch!
Definitely! I plan on making a full video about auto rotation.
The most successfull Model that have ever been produced. It is still one of the best and high quality helis in my opnion. I have also the raw 580 nitro but still this T rex can not be beaten in my opinion.
It’s a great model! Personally, I like the RAW 580 nitro way more! It’s so much better flying and solid in my opinion but the Trex 600n will always hold a special place in my heart!
yeah!
Good old school model.
this heli looks more sleek and modern than the new TB70, apart from the flybar!
I like the TB70 but hate the canopy, it’s a great looking heli with out the canopy lol
@@westhobbiesrc8051 what about those white borders on the frame!!!! looks like the Tron movie from the 80,s!
Have a Trex 700e flybar heli in the garage. Been thinking about changing it to flybarless so be interesting to watch you do it first 🙂
You can definitely convert it to FBL There’s a couple different ways and I’m going to make a video on the different ways you can convert it.
Sweet
Brought back some memories!
So a question, my dad still has the Kalt Baron 60 I first learned on, only thing I need to refurbish is the main rotor gear. You know where is best to look for those parts? I found a whole body and gear a while back, but didn't jump on it. Sad I didn't either.
Your best place is going to be looking on eBay as well as maybe the vintage helicopter group on Facebook. Unfortunately with the older models it is extremely difficult to find parts and depending on the model it can be even more difficult. I would just keep searching and looking.
Cool! Governor or throttle curves?
Running the governor with Flat throttle curves.
man you got to get that raptor 50 up and running. I'm just getting back in to it after about 12 years my friend got me back in to it after he brought an old 400 size walkera it was all metal head as well and got it for 25 bucks, I have had to learn it all over again so i got me a tx16smk2 a blade fusion 180 smart alot has changed older heli's seemed easy to setup on controller side but the heli's are more complex and alot more parts to, But now for me is its the other way around complex radio's and simpler heli's with less parts, Took me awhile to learn how it all works watching youtube scanning forums an truck loads of reading and manage to get the fusion 180 up and flying with the default heli setup and some tweaking it is very smooth to fly I had raptor 30 v2 to learn on abit nervous with that and reget selling it, Then I move on to a blade 4003D it was alot of fun still have it and going to convert it to a flybarless head for it and see how i go. love your work mate keep it up.
Thank you! I greatly appreciate it. So personally the TX16S is probably the hardest radio to learn lol helis now are so simple! The FBL setup and heli setup is very straight forward once you get the hang of it. If you have a spektrum radio then you would be setup and flying in minutes. Mainly because there is a heli template already there where on the TX16S you have to set everything! The fusion 180 is a great model and one of my favorite Blade models. I’m working on the Raptor 50 as we speak! Videos very soon! Definitely excited to fly that one! Glad to hear you getting back into the hobby!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Cheers mate its good to be back.
Which exact version is this coz I need the manual and there's so many 600 nitro pro on Align's website I don't know which one to download
This is the Trex 600n pro. Pretty much all 600n pro will be the same for the most part. Few little differences but any one of the manuals would work.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Thanks bud
You know we've talked about the iKon having a flybarred setting
Yea we did! I want to try it in this Heli!
Did you ever convert this to flybarless? if so how did you do it can you make a video on the setup I have a similar helicopter I’d like to convert
I have not done it yet but! I’m about to start a video on it.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 the one I have is a century predictor given to me and no electronics so new to this and would be nice if there’s a setup video showing how
@@plproductions8887 that’s a old but good model in its day. Only problem with models like is parts but anything can be converted. I’m going to show two different ways to convert. One with buying a FBL head and one with modifying the FB head.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 no problem it’s a friend getting out of the hobby gave me it and have a good amount of parts already spare
@@plproductions8887 that’s good!
Would you recommend a flybar heli for a beginner as opposed to a flybarless?
Definitely not, FlyBarLess all day for a beginner. Couple reasons but the main reason is simplicity of the head. A lot less parts, a lot less linkage is to adjust and get right. You can tune a FBL unit to your liking really slow the model down I have multiple flight modes. And they are a lot more locked in as well as rescue features and auto level.
is that running the old 3GX gyro?
No, it’s Fly barred. No FBL unit. It’s got a Futaba GY611 tail gyro.
I still have my thunder tiger raptor 30 V2 heli just need to tune to engine to fly it don't no the carb settings osnax 32 engine in it
You can look online and see the stock setting but I would start with 2 to 2 1/2 turns out from closed on the High end and probably one and a quarter turns out from closed on the low end. Start Rich and lean it down down from there.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 thanks so much for ur help it starts up now and got it flying thanks for ur help
Thanks so so much it flys so so nice I don't think I will sell it lol
@@kevingoldbey7401 you’re welcome, definitely don’t sell it. get it flying!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 hello my friend got the heli running so nice now thanks to u can u tell me if I whant to put a 2cell lipo on it cause I have a electric glow ignitor on it what would be the best regulator would the align 2in1 be ok
Rc heli engine is very very nice like real
Love nitro and that smell and smoke! It’s great!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 that right friend
👍🙂
Thank you!
It's no bullet but it's still a fully articulated collective pitch helicopter.
That it is. Still a good model.
That old heli will outfly your capabilities...
Probably not.
Show us your best 3d.. lol
@@aerykhurley8236 let’s see your amazing 3D! I’m sure many people would love to see it! Lol
Easy bud. Wanna compare?
Post some videos!
You all guys talking about how flybar helis are vintage but i have always flown flybar helis 😂, i have my old 2010 t-rex 450 pro with flybar, and of course a Raptor 50 Titan SE with a Redline .53 engine, and the only thing that keeps me out of it flying is that eventually the muffler keeps getting loose and the screws ends somewhere in the fly field. I have tried to make a bigger hole with a longer screw and use a nut on the muffler side but stills keep getting loose. Definetly this is something that nitro helis lose against electrics hahahah. Greetings from Venezuela