Check out the RC helicopter here: bit.ly/3v1Q8fl Learn more about Camp AMA here: www.amaflightschool.org/campama A nice slice of humble pit was delivered during this video when Nate had a brutal rc helicopter crash with the Blade 230 S Smart RTF rc heli. He was progressing so well with his rolls out of safe, and then out of no where he hit the ground. He was so bummed, but its part of the hobby. Progress was made and we cannot wait to see him behind the sticks of another RC heli soon. Disclosure: This description box contains affiliate links. Check out the Blade 230 S RTF heli here (as seen in video): bit.ly/3v1Q8fl Check out the Blade 230 S BNF here: bit.ly/3sqYECv Learn more about Camp AMA here: www.amaflightschool.org/campama The products in this video are rated for ages 14+. Support TheRcSaylors Patreon & Stickers | www.patreon.com/TheRcSaylors Merch | www.thercsaylorsyt.com/shirts Mail | 1140 Carter Ave, P.O. Box 361, Ashland, Kentucky 41101 Social Media TheRcSaylors Shorts | bit.ly/3rN37xp Facebook | facebook.com/thercsaylors Instagram | instagram.com/thercsaylors Twitter | twitter.com/thercsaylors Vlog and Live Channel | ua-cam.com/users/TheSaylorsYTchannel SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR PATREON FAMILY!! Doug Dahlheimer, Eddy Sinclair, Gary Zion, Haar Bear, Jake Barnes, Jamey Crowl, Jason day, Jeff Buys, Jesper Larsen, john love, john salt, Jose Valentin, Kent Barnes, Matt Reetz, Michael Schouten, Raymond Hausele, RC HOOLIGANS, Richard Higginson, Ron Erickson, Ryan Alexander, Terry Kellogg, Bill Conradi, Brian Buckstiegel, Brian wehrley, charles foster, Chris Hamlett, Chuck R, and David Chenzoff #rcplane #rcairplane #rc
Hey @TheRcSaylors have you guys ever launched model rockets ? That could be pretty cool to watch..and they are really cheap for a beginner kit. I was just wondering lol
Try living outside of North America. Spare parts for HH products are NOT availible anywhere. And you can NOT order from HH, they do not ship anywhere outside of NA. The German HH branch does NOT ship outside of EU. HH can in reality f off.
@@TheRcSaylors you lost orientation. You went into safe or self level? Safe AKA rescue should of made the heli go positive pitch and give you time to think and not need to touch the collective.
You should have SAFE and also the “Oh Crap” recovery button. It’s setup like the original Apprentice, it’s usually the button on the top left side of the transmitter. Hitting the button should self-level the aircraft and apply a bit of elevation.
I have had the blade 130s 230s and recently put blade 330s in airwolf fuselage.. Wish i could put a pic in this message.. But Nate!!! the blade 150s power and size and it can maneuver better than the rest with safe select.. Give it a shot! I think you will love it!
I have been learning to fly RC helicopters over the last two years. The Blade 230S is a great little helicopter to learn all of the orientations. Learning to fly RC helicopters is all about getting a lot of stick time in different orientations. It looks like you are having fun and I hope you keep at it. It is so rewarding each time you master a new orientation or maneuver! Thanks for sharing your videos and keep them coming!
Nate do you have real flight? That is what really helped me make the jump out of safe. I’m only barely 8 months in and I never fly in safe now. Someone told me to get out of safe asap. And I listened and I’m grateful.
@@rayduffield749 is that your motto? Lol because I could swear it was someone on this channel that said it to me. And it stuck. I had already done most of my training the expensive way. Lol. But once I bought real flight and spent a little time flying helis in sim it was an instant transition. I was still using safe as a bail out in the beginning. But the sim really helped me hone in on the skills. I’m not perfect or some crazy 3d pilot. But I can fly any pattern and all over without needing safe and some light aerobatics. I understand everyone is different. Some may be as good as me in half the time it took me or some may take double the amount of time as me. But the sim is a great tool and it works. I also used it to learn how to fly inverted on rc planes. I did it so many times in the sim when I got to the field it was a natural thing and didn’t think about it I just did it. Since I had done it so many times in the sim. With the same transmitter of course which helps.
Tis the way of RC Heli's. This is why, whenever I need to practice something, I power through the crashing phase with an XK K110. Well, at least you have something etched in your mind that will move you to check the battery a little sooner in the future. That's a good thing.
WHAT goes up MUST come down! Sorry it was your turn Nate!! It LOOKS a little bit like a FISH now!! GREAT job Saylors...it was FUN while it lasted!! 💟👍😘
I literally just bought the Fusion 360! Its an Awesome Heli as is this! With Heli's though Nate, you gotta get back on the horse! If my Parky brain can do it, so can you :)
Dude such a bummer, but you are getting better, we'll see you flying her again real soon. Thanks for sharing. Hi to you too Abby, great camera work...you're a pro videographer
Great advice. Always try things outside of your comfort zone. You shouldnt expect expert results. Even the pros have an off day! Always a pleasure! Keep'm Come'n you 2!💪
I'm commiserating with you. I bent the tail boom on mine, along with breaking the swash linkage and the tail rotor. I have the parts, but still haven't put it all back together yet.
You do everything you can to avoid a crash but the truth is, crashes happen..that's how we learn and progress. Besides, making repairs can be another FUN part of the hobby! I wish they had more 'build to fly' or 'build to run' kits available!
You are braver than me. I gave up on helicopters a long time ago, lol. I am glad the FPV quads came along. Keep it up though, I want to see a full routine in a few weeks ;-)
Good job guys! Flying helis is a different ball game in rc. There are people that hate on helis just because they can't fly them or are too scared to try to learn. Keep up the good work
Love the heli content. One thing that helped me with my heli flying is practice on a simulator. It doesn't give you the same 'feel' as a real heli, but can help with practicing moves, etc.
All good Nate. You're not flying if you're not crashing at some point. Nice video. Fix and repeat. My 120s is in a few pieces now waiting for parts. Lol.
All good Nate . I’ve crashed 💥🚁 my 230s several times. You can probably bend the tail boom back to almost normal or just grab a new gear and tail boom for less than $25 . Can’t wait to see the redemption flight . Keep flying.
Two small tips from someone in exactly that position a couple of years ago.. 1. A decent sim will save you a lot of money…I didn’t use one I went the hard route too…but if you don’t put the hours in on the sim you gotta accept the crashes when you step out of your comfort zone…and they will be frequent. 2. I’ve mentioned it on another video but if you can find yourself some long grass to fly over (I mean knee high or above) you’ll also save yourself a lot of money.. RC helis are the ultimate challenge in RC…In terms of co-ordination they are one of the hardest things you can do full-stop. Great job on the loops tho…takes a lot of people a long time to get as far as that !! 👍😊
I’ve broken the tail boom twice on my 230S. I solved that problem by making my own tail boom from an aluminum arrow I purchased for $5. It’s much stronger than the stock one.
I just nosed mine into the ground too. I was inverted and went to rotate out of it and well I pulled the stick back and not forward. Lol. I’ll post the vid and tag you in it on TikTok. It happens. Just stay out of safe and you’ll get there man.
Nate keep ya head up, Helis are very hard and a huge learning curve. Crashes will happen but you was doing great and sometimes crashing is part of our learning. Hopefully a fairly easy fix up and cost and get it back in the air. Take your time and grasp the basics so you get comfortable with the copter then let her rip bud. You got this.
Hey this is a really great video! It's so nice to see somebody real out there that enjoys his Hobby. This hobby is oh so addicting, that's the exact same thing I'm doing I'm progressing with this blade I really enjoy it oh, and I'm going to learn to fly it like a pro. You guys are doing great keep up the good work I love your show
That is a great helicopter. It doesn’t look to bad. I have disintegrated mine a few times and rebuilt them. I have the original one and this newer model. Always an adrenaline rush.
Nate , replace or at least check your feather shaft . They always bend when you have a blade strike even if you didn't brake your main blades. Main shaft is probably bent as well as gears stripped. ⚙️ time to do a full rebuild. Just a note. The bigger they are the easier they are to fly. Just cost more to repair. A 500 or 600 will seem insane but it will fly soooo smooth and solid. Good luck.
When I wrecked my "Revolution" helicopter in 1981, I took my bent tail boom to the local music shop. They have a tool for fixing children's bent horns, and he got it nice and straight. Flew it much longer.
For all you guys that want helicopter contact, my channel is 99% helicopters and minimum two videos a week. Now Nate, I highly highly highly recommend you learn the boring orientation, practice your nose and hover left and right over tailing over once you can do that perfectly and I mean perfectly practice forward flight back-and-forth circuits left and right. It takes months to master a helicopter just to fly upright normal. It is boring and it takes a while but it makes you 100 times better pilot. Helicopters are the hardest part of this hobby and not for everyone but more rewarding. Now I highly recommend that you check and replace the main shaft and feathering shaft on that 230, I will guarantee you one if not both are bent.
I agree with checking the main and feathering shaft. If either one is bent the chopper will definitely "sound funny" and you will also notice odd flight characteristics almost right away. Also you may be able to straighten the tail boom. Both my 230s (gen 1 and gen 2) have tail booms that were bent at one point in time. All in all the 230 is a solid and easy to fly bird. Best of luck and enjoy.
@@Adamhc75 A bent feathering shaft and or mainshaft will create vibrations which will cause the “odd flight characteristics” and funny sound. You can always check a feathering shaft on the bench just by inserting a 1.5 mm driver into one end and turning. You will see right away with the other blade grip bouncing up and down as you rotate the shaft. Yeah you can bend the boom back. They are super soft booms. I did a full MicroHeli 230 three blade build on mine and ditch the stock 636 and put a Brain 2 with blue tooth as well as MicroHeli servos and blade 300x motor. Only thing that’s stock 230 is ESC And tail motor. I’ve got quite a few videos of it on my channel.
Im not a great heli pilot either. I feel like they get taken over by skynet sometimes and there is nothing you can do to keep them from crashing. Fun video as always you two. If I ever have 1/10th of the impact you guys have on the hobby I will die a happy man!
Tried them myself. Just a bit of a handful. Started with an American Mantis Nitro. Really old school.. Thank you anyway, but I will stick to fixed wing. Have a Great Day, ooops. Back to the repair shop.
I reckon SAFE had gone out of calibration during the earlier part of the flight whilst you were in unstabilised mode. In SAFE, mine starts to drift until I run out of cyclic movement to correct it whereupon it drifts away out of control and crashes. It seems to be a common problem which is not recognised by everyone, who assume it is their fault. I think this is what happened to you.
The more I read, the more it seems other people are having the issue. Mine had a pretty bad crash yesterday, second day of ownership. I’ve contacted horizon, I believe the crash was due to a defect in which the calibration gets extremely off kilter when you switch in to stability mode from another mode. Hoping they acknowledge it, as it seems the issue has been going on for years.
Turning it side on for the camera was a bad idea, orientation is always one of the most tricky parts to heli flying until you are really good. I can fly an rc helicopter about without crashing, but still have not attempted a roll or flip on my IC couple (old Raptor 50 and a T-Rex 600 FBL), although I have done them on electric (sometimes you get away with it, but it doesn't look that bad at all, nice). Love your vids! I haven't tried on the IC ones because they are big and scary, lol and bigger flies better but crashes harder 🙂 Also I don't think you got it to full safe mode, maybe the setting below that and also maybe battery, hard to tell. Good stuff, rebuild and try again!
Nate, parts and rebuild are easy. There is a dude "Gods Country Archery" has an awesome set-up video for the 230S Smart. I used his video for all the mechanical stuff. Also, the RTF is ok for this bird, but get Dx6e or better for the forward programming and custom stuff. But you already knew this...lol.
Also, after rebuild and mechanical setup (also do the calibration reset for the gyro), practice hovering in Agility mode. Reason might seem backwards, but if you have it mechanically perfect, it will hover damn near perfect. Then do the trims flights in stability. Seems backwards, but it solved 92% of my problems with the 230s Smart.
Been there via , pushing ones limits . About as ancient as a 2wd Stampede but just as trusty & fun to play with . Enough power to get one out of trouble and , Hello ground moments are fixed with inexpensive parts avail in days not weeks away .
You should probably try to use Rescue instead of flipping it back to SAFE mode. My very first attempt at flying inverted was on the first version of this heli and it saved my heli and made me come back for more. I have really good memories of this heli and always think I should buy another one just so if I go to a demo at a school or for the boy scouts or something to just show what a small, affordable, complete first time helicopter looks like.
I have the 230SV2, just not the smart version like your new one. I'm pretty sure your crash wasn't a battery failure, I'm guessing when you flipped back to "Safe" you actually put the switch in the middle position and not all the way down to full safe. The middle position if for stunts, but, at a lower head speed and slightly more docile. I've made bigger mistakes while losing orientation, and at lower altitudes, but, safe took over and saved my 230s just fine every time. You had plenty of altitude and battery for the save, also, that particular maneuver was not very aggressive, it was well within safe-modes ability. I could see by how the heli slide out of the sky that it wasn't in safe mode. Anyway, as always, excellent video, y'all give such good information in such a nice way. I just made a move up to the Blade Fusion 360 Smart, the maiden flights will be later today. I'll still be flying the 230s, it's an amazing helicopter. Oh, did you make it to the Joe Nall Fly-in ?
Man I know jack about helis but I wonder if that main gear didnt fail while you were doing the flip,the way it came down didnt look like a battery failure?
Same vibe UA-camr: i got a bit of water in my eye Same youtuber: i nearly blinded my self Personal I think the community has become tired of the exaggerated reactions that come from a non event.
@@TheRcSaylors lol,one of the first things I learned.when they go down under power, it will strip main gears,and usually causes the blades to strike the boom.check your main shaft and blade grip spindle also.
Nate and Abby I just got off the phone with Bob and horizon hobby real nice gentleman and got the glider that you had flown a while back wish I would have got it done it more expensive now looking forward to flying recliner see how long I can stay in the air
Dang hate it ran out of battery and caused the crash. Its not to awfully bad though. Probably just a gear and tail boom. You could probably bend it back pretty straight if ya ya really wanted to. Looked like it flew petty stable. Cool vid guy's. 🔥👍
my question to you is why do you think it did not level itself with safe engaged?… From what I could tell you had already engaged safe stabilization for leveling well before it crashed… You can see the helicopter was close to being level and then did a left bank and that it should not have done in safe… So what do you think happened ?… PS your videos are cool and one last thing I do not believe this was a battery issue. So why did not stabilize in safe mode…?
I was wondering the same thing, it looks like it may have thought it was level but in reality it was banking hard left and slightly backwards. Maybe it wasn't calibrated on level ground?
when are you guys gonna get the OMP M1? I have been flying mine for a while now and I still highly recommend it. Or maybe get the M2 even, it's literally just a bigger copy of the M1, the M2 V2 that is, not the original.
Yes anything that flies does have an expiration day. And you guys are so cool. Better every time. Hang on. The intro for this video looks like a bent carrot commercial
Nate . Try and practice auto rotation at altitude ..getting that down pact will help you in situations like that ...although the more altitude you have the better off it will work for you .. that was a split second crash ..not much u can do . ..but if you do fly a heli. Take her up a good bit and cut the throttle you should still have some control but your main goal is to keep the main rotor spinning as fast as you can ...and at the last second give full collective to give your self an air cushion to basically land on..it won't always be pretty ..but you will save your heli over 90 percent of the time
You can't autorotate a Blade 230S as I don't believe it has a one-way bearing. Also, a 450 sized Heli is pretty much the smallest Heli you can effectively autorotate ... 700's are the easiest, but I doubt even an expert Heli pilot could auto that 230S
In theory you can auto-rotate any heli. But I agree with Tom, the smallest they are the harder to auto-rotate. I once saw a video of a pro pilot (Bobby Watts) auto-rotate a Goblin Fireball/Mini-Comet that has a direct drive (no one-way). But it was difficult even for him, even though he was able to do it.
that definitely did not look like a battery issue. First off so much for safe technology . Simply lost orientation and wasted a valuable second or even two thinking safe mode might help. Should have just stayed on the sticks you may have gotten out of it. Anyway as usual great video I hope you fix it and see you back in the air
Yeah, my worst fear about this thing is breaking the weak frame (which is way too easy to do ) I can’t stand doing repairs now I’ll be darned if I’m going to try to reframe the thing. Why couldn’t they have used a carbon fibre frame like they did in the 150? As I’ve said, I much prefer the 150. I just noticed that this Heli has now been discontinued on Horizon‘s website. Can’t say I’m surprised. I always thought it was way over hyped and priced. Guess the “smart” gimmick didn’t result in the sales they’d hoped for. More money for nothing . The cost of the batteries alone was a turn off. I used the old batteries with a JST connector but I also did end up buying a couple smart batteries.
thats what makes helis so addictive for me the desire to make a flight look good and its fun to''''you will make it and the 230 is easy to fix ,i know they ;look bad after a crash ...but i learned before any type of safe and fix and fix lol ,,the bl2 will get you where you want to be ..the 230 is good to learn to fly but not to do tricks the bl2 is a better 3d trainer
Your battery didn't die... When you switch back to safe , all the trims are WAYY off. You CAN NOT switch between modes while mid maneuver. Regardless of what spectrum/eflight says. Also the save (bind) button RTF no work like the Chinese ones. I have this exact heli and it's updated and a bought the tool to update the controller and esc/receiver thing. And no matter what you switch mid manuve be prepared to fight trim and try to switch out and back when it's slightly more level OR if trim to far out and it's doing what it did to you. JUST HIT THE KILL then collective. If the motor can slow enough before hitting the ground the damage will be minimal ( the finger things on the rotor head ) Fun ( positive ) fact. They will still fly with a bent tail AND will fly well in wind In Safe mode, It's impressive Also the smaller ones are better. The really small older one is Amazing. But buy a backup control board, and like 2 tail booms :-) :-)
I can tell from your rolls and flips you are not giving it negative pitch. That is why you are losing altitude. When you time your roll or pitch with the the collective change to negative, your goal is to be axial meaning you should be very close to the same height during execution like the heli is flipping or rolling on an imaginary axial. Thinks of the difference between a barrel roll and axial roll.
@@TheRcSaylors ahaa! That would help! Looking forward to the re-fly once it’s fixed. Ironically I tuned in because I wanted to see the panic recovery in action!
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A nice slice of humble pit was delivered during this video when Nate had a brutal rc helicopter crash with the Blade 230 S Smart RTF rc heli. He was progressing so well with his rolls out of safe, and then out of no where he hit the ground. He was so bummed, but its part of the hobby. Progress was made and we cannot wait to see him behind the sticks of another RC heli soon.
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Hey @TheRcSaylors have you guys ever launched model rockets ? That could be pretty cool to watch..and they are really cheap for a beginner kit. I was just wondering lol
Try living outside of North America. Spare parts for HH products are NOT availible anywhere. And you can NOT order from HH, they do not ship anywhere outside of NA. The German HH branch does NOT ship outside of EU.
HH can in reality f off.
You were so cool and calm during and after the crash. I applaud you and Abby. A true learning video. I love this channel.
I got this heli and it's great!
I love the size and the 3 modes, SAFE, Intermediate & Expert.
The "Oh Crap" button comes in handy while learning too!
I thought it was going to save me. Threw it in SAFE but I don’t think I throttled up enough 🤷♂️ What do you think happened on my crash?
@@TheRcSaylors you lost orientation. You went into safe or self level? Safe AKA rescue should of made the heli go positive pitch and give you time to think and not need to touch the collective.
You should have SAFE and also the “Oh Crap” recovery button. It’s setup like the original Apprentice, it’s usually the button on the top left side of the transmitter. Hitting the button should self-level the aircraft and apply a bit of elevation.
I have had the blade 130s 230s and recently put blade 330s in airwolf fuselage.. Wish i could put a pic in this message.. But Nate!!! the blade 150s power and size and it can maneuver better than the rest with safe select.. Give it a shot! I think you will love it!
I like my 150s a lot better than my 230s
I have been learning to fly RC helicopters over the last two years. The Blade 230S is a great little helicopter to learn all of the orientations. Learning to fly RC helicopters is all about getting a lot of stick time in different orientations. It looks like you are having fun and I hope you keep at it. It is so rewarding each time you master a new orientation or maneuver! Thanks for sharing your videos and keep them coming!
Nice to hear. People are still into flying RC heli's. Keep on.
Nate do you have real flight? That is what really helped me make the jump out of safe. I’m only barely 8 months in and I never fly in safe now. Someone told me to get out of safe asap. And I listened and I’m grateful.
Yes definitely get out of safe as fast as you can cuz that will hurt you.
@@rayduffield749 is that your motto? Lol because I could swear it was someone on this channel that said it to me. And it stuck. I had already done most of my training the expensive way. Lol. But once I bought real flight and spent a little time flying helis in sim it was an instant transition. I was still using safe as a bail out in the beginning. But the sim really helped me hone in on the skills. I’m not perfect or some crazy 3d pilot. But I can fly any pattern and all over without needing safe and some light aerobatics. I understand everyone is different. Some may be as good as me in half the time it took me or some may take double the amount of time as me. But the sim is a great tool and it works. I also used it to learn how to fly inverted on rc planes. I did it so many times in the sim when I got to the field it was a natural thing and didn’t think about it I just did it. Since I had done it so many times in the sim. With the same transmitter of course which helps.
Tis the way of RC Heli's. This is why, whenever I need to practice something, I power through the crashing phase with an XK K110.
Well, at least you have something etched in your mind that will move you to check the battery a little sooner in the future. That's a good thing.
WHAT goes up MUST come down! Sorry it was your turn Nate!! It LOOKS a little bit like a FISH now!! GREAT job Saylors...it was FUN while it lasted!! 💟👍😘
I literally just bought the Fusion 360! Its an Awesome Heli as is this! With Heli's though Nate, you gotta get back on the horse! If my Parky brain can do it, so can you :)
Woot! You got first! 💯 And yeah I’m planning on getting right back on. Won’t let this crash stop me! 👍😁😎⚓️
Dude such a bummer, but you are getting better, we'll see you flying her again real soon.
Thanks for sharing.
Hi to you too Abby, great camera work...you're a pro videographer
Thank you so much Sean!! 👍😁😎⚓️
Great advice. Always try things outside of your comfort zone. You shouldnt expect expert results. Even the pros have an off day! Always a pleasure! Keep'm Come'n you 2!💪
I'm commiserating with you. I bent the tail boom on mine, along with breaking the swash linkage and the tail rotor. I have the parts, but still haven't put it all back together yet.
You do everything you can to avoid a crash but the truth is, crashes happen..that's how we learn and progress. Besides, making repairs can be another FUN part of the hobby! I wish they had more 'build to fly' or 'build to run' kits available!
If your NOT crashing then your NOT Flying.
Well done 👍👍👍
Thank you! 👍😁😎⚓️
You are braver than me. I gave up on helicopters a long time ago, lol. I am glad the FPV quads came along. Keep it up though, I want to see a full routine in a few weeks ;-)
Oh sheesh, lol!! 😂😂😂 How about a full flight without a crash!?! 👍⚓️
@@TheRcSaylors lol
You're not bad Nate! I think you just got into that side slip orientation and if I crash, that's how I crash too. Good job!
You need to get the OMP Hobby M2
We have actually heard there is an OMP killer on the lose and plan on picking one up! 👍😎⚓️
Keep at it Nate, you were doing great! Definitely good practice to keep the rotor head up when you're approaching low batt
Good job guys! Flying helis is a different ball game in rc. There are people that hate on helis just because they can't fly them or are too scared to try to learn. Keep up the good work
I applause how you mention God and are thankful for Him. Amen to that! "In all things God works for the good of those who Love Him" Romans 8:28
I applause too
That's the main reason I keep watching.
Huge KUDOS for getting out in front of UA-cam and out of your comfort zone. Nicely done!
Thank you very much! 👍😁😎⚓️
Abby and Nate y'all rock! Love the channel and content! I'm here for the algorithm! Peace
Small tip in 3-D mode go negative pitch when upside down keep you from Dropping altitude
Cool side rolls! Keep pushing your comfort zone, Nate.
Thanks P B!! Gotta repair this and keep on going! 👍😁😎⚓️
Love the heli content. One thing that helped me with my heli flying is practice on a simulator. It doesn't give you the same 'feel' as a real heli, but can help with practicing moves, etc.
All good Nate. You're not flying if you're not crashing at some point. Nice video. Fix and repeat. My 120s is in a few pieces now waiting for parts. Lol.
All good Nate . I’ve crashed 💥🚁 my 230s several times. You can probably bend the tail boom back to almost normal or just grab a new gear and tail boom for less than $25 . Can’t wait to see the redemption flight . Keep flying.
Two small tips from someone in exactly that position a couple of years ago.. 1. A decent sim will save you a lot of money…I didn’t use one I went the hard route too…but if you don’t put the hours in on the sim you gotta accept the crashes when you step out of your comfort zone…and they will be frequent. 2. I’ve mentioned it on another video but if you can find yourself some long grass to fly over (I mean knee high or above) you’ll also save yourself a lot of money.. RC helis are the ultimate challenge in RC…In terms of co-ordination they are one of the hardest things you can do full-stop. Great job on the loops tho…takes a lot of people a long time to get as far as that !! 👍😊
Amazingggggg the rc choppers today.I started out with the Heliboy and then the Kaven Jet Ranger.
Thank you for being open about life and good choices in life, not only in RC but the important stuff to. 👍
No problem, and Thank You!! 👍😁😎⚓️
I’ve broken the tail boom twice on my 230S. I solved that problem by making my own tail boom from an aluminum arrow I purchased for $5. It’s much stronger than the stock one.
Oh that’s an insanely awesome idea!! Thanks for that 💯👍😎😁⚓️
Nice flying! I put a microheli carbon fiber tail rotor on my 230s and the tail holds so much better and fly’s more stable overall, happy flying 🚁😊
thats an awesome copter 😀 mate thats unlucky with crash bro👌😀😀
I just nosed mine into the ground too. I was inverted and went to rotate out of it and well I pulled the stick back and not forward. Lol. I’ll post the vid and tag you in it on TikTok. It happens. Just stay out of safe and you’ll get there man.
Love you guys keep up the great positive vibes and awsome videos.
It happens bro! I fly helicopters and I’ve broken many! Love that you’re trying! 👍🏻
This is great every time I watch it! I'm learning to fly 230s myself...You guys are awesome!
Nate keep ya head up, Helis are very hard and a huge learning curve. Crashes will happen but you was doing great and sometimes crashing is part of our learning. Hopefully a fairly easy fix up and cost and get it back in the air. Take your time and grasp the basics so you get comfortable with the copter then let her rip bud. You got this.
Hey this is a really great video! It's so nice to see somebody real out there that enjoys his Hobby. This hobby is oh so addicting, that's the exact same thing I'm doing I'm progressing with this blade I really enjoy it oh, and I'm going to learn to fly it like a pro. You guys are doing great keep up the good work I love your show
Thank you very much Michael! Happy Flying my friend 👍😁😎👍
Same happened to mine... I just bent it back and it worked ever since
My tail boom looked the same . put in a vice and straightened it out . flies fine .
I still have mine so that’s actually good to know! 👍💯😎⚓️
It has the tiniest little chopper sound to it ....it's almost like Stuart Littles personal chopper lol
Keep it up! Real life is not as easy as hitting the reset button in RCFS. Practice makes perfect.
Omg hey guys I’m one of your biggest fans 😃
That is a great helicopter. It doesn’t look to bad. I have disintegrated mine a few times and rebuilt them. I have the original one and this newer model. Always an adrenaline rush.
That thumbnail is hilarious!!!
Helicopters are awesome 👏
Good job
Thanks David! 👍😁😎⚓️
I flown my Blade 230S 4 times and I've ordered replacement parts FOUR TIMES! "Oh Learning, how fun and expensive you can be!" 🤑👍
Okay, you’ve definitely made me feel a lot better 😉👍😁😎⚓️
Nate , replace or at least check your feather shaft . They always bend when you have a blade strike even if you didn't brake your main blades. Main shaft is probably bent as well as gears stripped. ⚙️ time to do a full rebuild. Just a note. The bigger they are the easier they are to fly. Just cost more to repair. A 500 or 600 will seem insane but it will fly soooo smooth and solid. Good luck.
When I wrecked my "Revolution" helicopter in 1981, I took my bent tail boom to the local music shop. They have a tool for fixing children's bent horns, and he got it nice and straight. Flew it much longer.
Bummer! I've bent plenty of those aluminum tail booms. Easily replaceable though. No worries.
Get on the sim and practice with the Helicopters and 3D flight. Changing the D/R expo, and throttle curve on sim is very important.
Its all good Nate because stuff happens !
For all you guys that want helicopter contact, my channel is 99% helicopters and minimum two videos a week.
Now Nate, I highly highly highly recommend you learn the boring orientation, practice your nose and hover left and right over tailing over once you can do that perfectly and I mean perfectly practice forward flight back-and-forth circuits left and right. It takes months to master a helicopter just to fly upright normal. It is boring and it takes a while but it makes you 100 times better pilot. Helicopters are the hardest part of this hobby and not for everyone but more rewarding. Now I highly recommend that you check and replace the main shaft and feathering shaft on that 230, I will guarantee you one if not both are bent.
I agree with checking the main and feathering shaft. If either one is bent the chopper will definitely "sound funny" and you will also notice odd flight characteristics almost right away. Also you may be able to straighten the tail boom. Both my 230s (gen 1 and gen 2) have tail booms that were bent at one point in time. All in all the 230 is a solid and easy to fly bird. Best of luck and enjoy.
@@Adamhc75 A bent feathering shaft and or mainshaft will create vibrations which will cause the “odd flight characteristics” and funny sound. You can always check a feathering shaft on the bench just by inserting a 1.5 mm driver into one end and turning. You will see right away with the other blade grip bouncing up and down as you rotate the shaft. Yeah you can bend the boom back. They are super soft booms. I did a full MicroHeli 230 three blade build on mine and ditch the stock 636 and put a Brain 2 with blue tooth as well as MicroHeli servos and blade 300x motor. Only thing that’s stock 230 is ESC And tail motor. I’ve got quite a few videos of it on my channel.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 just say it’s not a 230 anymore 😂😂
@@Twx97 it’s still a “230” I’m running 230mm blades!, 😂
I don't think that really is the best beginner helicopter. 🚁💥🔥
You did well flying! Good thing it crashed over grass.
Im not a great heli pilot either. I feel like they get taken over by skynet sometimes and there is nothing you can do to keep them from crashing. Fun video as always you two. If I ever have 1/10th of the impact you guys have on the hobby I will die a happy man!
Good for you for wanting to push yourself. Keep trying, and don't ignore those battery warnings!
Thanks! 👍😁⚓️
Good evening great video nice review cool helicopter
Tried them myself. Just a bit of a handful. Started with an American Mantis Nitro. Really old school.. Thank you anyway, but I will stick to fixed wing. Have a Great Day, ooops. Back to the repair shop.
Nice, all part of the fun and sounds like your wife is having just as much fun 😀
I reckon SAFE had gone out of calibration during the earlier part of the flight whilst you were in unstabilised mode.
In SAFE, mine starts to drift until I run out of cyclic movement to correct it whereupon it drifts away out of control and crashes. It seems to be a common problem which is not recognised by everyone, who assume it is their fault. I think this is what happened to you.
The more I read, the more it seems other people are having the issue. Mine had a pretty bad crash yesterday, second day of ownership. I’ve contacted horizon, I believe the crash was due to a defect in which the calibration gets extremely off kilter when you switch in to stability mode from another mode. Hoping they acknowledge it, as it seems the issue has been going on for years.
What camera are you using?
Turning it side on for the camera was a bad idea, orientation is always one of the most tricky parts to heli flying until you are really good. I can fly an rc helicopter about without crashing, but still have not attempted a roll or flip on my IC couple (old Raptor 50 and a T-Rex 600 FBL), although I have done them on electric (sometimes you get away with it, but it doesn't look that bad at all, nice). Love your vids! I haven't tried on the IC ones because they are big and scary, lol and bigger flies better but crashes harder 🙂 Also I don't think you got it to full safe mode, maybe the setting below that and also maybe battery, hard to tell. Good stuff, rebuild and try again!
Nate, parts and rebuild are easy. There is a dude "Gods Country Archery" has an awesome set-up video for the 230S Smart. I used his video for all the mechanical stuff. Also, the RTF is ok for this bird, but get Dx6e or better for the forward programming and custom stuff. But you already knew this...lol.
Also, after rebuild and mechanical setup (also do the calibration reset for the gyro), practice hovering in Agility mode. Reason might seem backwards, but if you have it mechanically perfect, it will hover damn near perfect. Then do the trims flights in stability. Seems backwards, but it solved 92% of my problems with the 230s Smart.
Which one is the GPS version you mentioned?
FW 200
Well done for flying heily u did a fine job very tidy tricks 😎😎👍👍hope there was not much damage to it 🤞🤞🤞👍👍
Been there via , pushing ones limits . About as ancient as a 2wd Stampede but just as trusty & fun to play with . Enough power to get one out of trouble and , Hello ground moments are fixed with inexpensive parts avail in days not weeks away .
If you bind it to an nx you can switch on safe for stunt 1 so there's not such a big power drop.
I still have the Blade 230s v2, 150s, 130s and still to afraid to fly any of them.
the 230sV2 is extremely stable and docile in safe mode, very well mannered, even on a windy day. Take 'er up some calm evening and have some fun.
You should probably try to use Rescue instead of flipping it back to SAFE mode. My very first attempt at flying inverted was on the first version of this heli and it saved my heli and made me come back for more. I have really good memories of this heli and always think I should buy another one just so if I go to a demo at a school or for the boy scouts or something to just show what a small, affordable, complete first time helicopter looks like.
I have the 230SV2, just not the smart version like your new one. I'm pretty sure your crash wasn't a battery failure, I'm guessing when you flipped back to "Safe" you actually put the switch in the middle position and not all the way down to full safe. The middle position if for stunts, but, at a lower head speed and slightly more docile. I've made bigger mistakes while losing orientation, and at lower altitudes, but, safe took over and saved my 230s just fine every time. You had plenty of altitude and battery for the save, also, that particular maneuver was not very aggressive, it was well within safe-modes ability. I could see by how the heli slide out of the sky that it wasn't in safe mode. Anyway, as always, excellent video, y'all give such good information in such a nice way. I just made a move up to the Blade Fusion 360 Smart, the maiden flights will be later today. I'll still be flying the 230s, it's an amazing helicopter. Oh, did you make it to the Joe Nall Fly-in ?
Man I know jack about helis but I wonder if that main gear didnt fail while you were doing the flip,the way it came down didnt look like a battery failure?
Same vibe
UA-camr: i got a bit of water in my eye
Same youtuber: i nearly blinded my self
Personal I think the community has become tired of the exaggerated reactions that come from a non event.
With helis,if you know it's going down for sure,always hit your throttle hold! It will save on parts,trust me!
Such good advice. Wish my muscle memory would have been quick enough to do that!!
@@TheRcSaylors lol,one of the first things I learned.when they go down under power, it will strip main gears,and usually causes the blades to strike the boom.check your main shaft and blade grip spindle also.
For real I bought an fpv drone wacked off the vtx the first day. These things need pratice.
Sorry to hear that Travis!
Heli's are crazy hard.... I have tired , Ill master planes first then try heli's again lol
Nate and Abby I just got off the phone with Bob and horizon hobby real nice gentleman and got the glider that you had flown a while back wish I would have got it done it more expensive now looking forward to flying recliner see how long I can stay in the air
Yeah, the aftermath looks very familiar. Hey, thank you for praising the Lord despite the mishap--great testimony!
Dang hate it ran out of battery and caused the crash. Its not to awfully bad though. Probably just a gear and tail boom. You could probably bend it back pretty straight if ya ya really wanted to. Looked like it flew petty stable.
Cool vid guy's. 🔥👍
You guys should check out the Dji robomaster s1 great fun
my question to you is why do you think it did not level itself with safe engaged?… From what I could tell you had already engaged safe stabilization for leveling well before it crashed… You can see the helicopter was close to being level and then did a left bank and that it should not have done in safe… So what do you think happened ?… PS your videos are cool and one last thing I do not believe this was a battery issue. So why did not stabilize in safe mode…?
I was wondering the same thing, it looks like it may have thought it was level but in reality it was banking hard left and slightly backwards. Maybe it wasn't calibrated on level ground?
Well that hurt. Spare parts are good.
😢 She should fly again!! 👍😎⚓️
when are you guys gonna get the OMP M1? I have been flying mine for a while now and I still highly recommend it. Or maybe get the M2 even, it's literally just a bigger copy of the M1, the M2 V2 that is, not the original.
We have heard there is an OMP killer on the lose! Nearly bought one until this news came out.
@@TheRcSaylors what in tarnation does that mean?
Just before crash you were in "nose-in" orientation. Do you have nose-in skills?
Yes anything that flies does have an expiration day. And you guys are so cool. Better every time.
Hang on. The intro for this video looks like a bent carrot commercial
Nate . Try and practice auto rotation at altitude ..getting that down pact will help you in situations like that ...although the more altitude you have the better off it will work for you .. that was a split second crash ..not much u can do . ..but if you do fly a heli. Take her up a good bit and cut the throttle you should still have some control but your main goal is to keep the main rotor spinning as fast as you can ...and at the last second give full collective to give your self an air cushion to basically land on..it won't always be pretty ..but you will save your heli over 90 percent of the time
You can't autorotate a Blade 230S as I don't believe it has a one-way bearing. Also, a 450 sized Heli is pretty much the smallest Heli you can effectively autorotate ... 700's are the easiest, but I doubt even an expert Heli pilot could auto that 230S
In theory you can auto-rotate any heli. But I agree with Tom, the smallest they are the harder to auto-rotate. I once saw a video of a pro pilot (Bobby Watts) auto-rotate a Goblin Fireball/Mini-Comet that has a direct drive (no one-way). But it was difficult even for him, even though he was able to do it.
that definitely did not look like a battery issue. First off so much for safe technology . Simply lost orientation and wasted a valuable second or even two thinking safe mode might help. Should have just stayed on the sticks you may have gotten out of it. Anyway as usual great video I hope you fix it and see you back in the air
I just blasted mine into the ground yesterday. On the search of parts to rebuild. It ended up cracking the frame in half. 🙄
Yeah, my worst fear about this thing is breaking the weak frame (which is way too easy to do ) I can’t stand doing repairs now I’ll be darned if I’m going to try to reframe the thing. Why couldn’t they have used a carbon fibre frame like they did in the 150? As I’ve said, I much prefer the 150. I just noticed that this Heli has now been discontinued on Horizon‘s website. Can’t say I’m surprised. I always thought it was way over hyped and priced. Guess the “smart” gimmick didn’t result in the sales they’d hoped for. More money for nothing . The cost of the batteries alone was a turn off. I used the old batteries with a JST connector but I also did end up buying a couple smart batteries.
thats what makes helis so addictive for me the desire to make a flight look good and its fun to''''you will make it and the 230 is easy to fix ,i know they ;look bad after a crash ...but i learned before any type of safe and fix and fix lol ,,the bl2 will get you where you want to be ..the 230 is good to learn to fly but not to do tricks the bl2 is a better 3d trainer
Your battery didn't die... When you switch back to safe , all the trims are WAYY off. You CAN NOT switch between modes while mid maneuver. Regardless of what spectrum/eflight says. Also the save (bind) button RTF no work like the Chinese ones. I have this exact heli and it's updated and a bought the tool to update the controller and esc/receiver thing. And no matter what you switch mid manuve be prepared to fight trim and try to switch out and back when it's slightly more level OR if trim to far out and it's doing what it did to you. JUST HIT THE KILL then collective. If the motor can slow enough before hitting the ground the damage will be minimal ( the finger things on the rotor head )
Fun ( positive ) fact. They will still fly with a bent tail AND will fly well in wind In Safe mode, It's impressive
Also the smaller ones are better. The really small older one is Amazing. But buy a backup control board, and like 2 tail booms :-) :-)
Sounds good
Bend it back and send it!
I find helicopters fun because they are hard. I've trashed a couple. Keep practicing and you'll be able to move up to a 700 size in no time.
I converted this 230s fuselage to fly it exclusively FPV in my channel. I never learned how to fly line of sight.
That's pretty dope. Just saw
everytime he says "I hope I don't crash" boom lol just kidding.
I'm a helicopter guy ....I wish the was a RAH 66 COMANCHE KIT I COULD BUY
I can tell from your rolls and flips you are not giving it negative pitch. That is why you are losing altitude. When you time your roll or pitch with the the collective change to negative, your goal is to be axial meaning you should be very close to the same height during execution like the heli is flipping or rolling on an imaginary axial. Thinks of the difference between a barrel roll and axial roll.
What I don’t get is that, if you flipped SAFE back in, why did it continue to dive into the ground? 🤔
I hit SAFE but didn’t throttle up enough. 😢😢😢
@@TheRcSaylors ahaa! That would help! Looking forward to the re-fly once it’s fixed. Ironically I tuned in because I wanted to see the panic recovery in action!
A tree strike bent mine. A T-6 aluminum boom and struts fixed mine.