16 minutes in two sentences: load in - if loot rooms aren't good, alt f4 and load back into raid, repeating until desired loot. Doesn't work on streets. 16 minutes of unedited footage for that.
It's single-player offline exploits. You are losing nothing by not using them, and the person exploiting them is gaining nothing. In fact, they are losing time, the most important commodity.
I 100% called it in your last video's comments . You were going to show everyone how to exploit the room after complaining about the loot being bad in the rooms . The only thing as bad as loot boxes for gaming is youtubers
People complaining as if it literally isn't just PVE, who cares, if you want to do it, do it, if not, don't! It's literally just that simple, no need to complain about bug abusing when it doesn't affect anyone from someone else using this.
im pretty sure thats why they made pve, so you can play the game you want to and not have to ever worry about cheaters or campers that are real people.
Btw Alt F4 Works also after dying but you have to do it very quick after the kill shoot - it’s very useful when you doing quest like “The quide” where you loose your progress when dying. But like I said - you have to press it very quickly - so you have to be mentally prepared for this ;)
For the amount of time it takes to do this and how infrequently the keycards spawn (I ran a full 10/10 dorms marked key normally and only got 1 keycard) you could just spam Streets or Ground Zero runs for bolts/ES lamps/GPU's, I consistently average 2-3m per raid this way.
So while I agree with the fact that people shouldn’t do this because it’s pointless there is also a group of players that don’t want to just farm the same map over and over for loot. The most fun way to play is to just learn the better loot areas on each map and just run around those while doing quests but people are going to bug abuse till it gets patched
Yeah frankly this is cool for like grabbing stuff you cant buy easily like spears or m60s or keycards or whatever but i cannot imagine many people that are making the choice to play pve over pvp are going to be willing to waste the time it takes to load in, run, secure and loot just a single marked room, over and over until they get good loot, or alt f4 if they dont. Its an interesting little exploit for sure and would be tight for getting info on loot tables and probabilities and profit per openning and stuff really easily compared to other options.
The only downside being time wasted, honestly you make more money in the same amount of time hunting bosses like the goons or tagilla cause keys just arent worth buying ☹️
Let’s be honest, was there EVER a economy? You had AI PMCS running level 5 armor with the AI of surface raiders on reserve. Not to mention how easy it is to get from place to place.
I couldn’t imagine alt f4 unless I got some weird glitch or stuck. It’s so easy to make money on just customs runs without marked key. Easy 2-4mil in a couple hrs without a marked key.
Şuan Al zayıflaması ile pve harika bir oyun oldu...Tam doğru şekilde...pmcler bazen saldırıyor bazen kaçıyor...Tam doğru ve iyi bir şekilde...Burdan hep eleştiri yaptım...Şuan BSG ye teşekkür ediyorum..😁
For a second, I thought I was gonna see him load it back up and still be in marked but have different loot spawns. That would be super broken , wonder how long until they fix the key not losing uses tho...
Did this on accident once when my cursor was showing in the center of my screen. I alt+f4’d and was back in the lobby with my kit and was super confused lol
This has been in for the longest time haha, I have used this a couple of times when the game bugged out which would almost get me killed at times (hands busy for instance)
Ironic that your UA-cam handle is "Nutshell" but your videos are anything BUT that. 16min video to explain a < 1min topic. Rather distasteful and disingenuous to try to farm your viewers like that and basically waste our time. Maybe next time just tell us up front and then leave the "here's what it looks like when you do this" until after the explanation for people who want to support your channel and watch the full video. you'll upset a lot less people and likely even gain a lot more viewers/subscribers because the content is decent, but the way you make the videos and drag out all the information is a pretty underhanded way of forcing people to watch a > 10 min video to farm ad revenue.
I would like to know, at what point does the match save the data? If I were to die in game, is there a point where I could press alt f4 before returning to menu that wouldn't save the death?
at raid end. At any point before you extract if you disconnect in any way that entire raid basically never happened. People are thinking "oh cool exploit" but this also means if you lose power or internet mid raid you lose all the progress from the raid. Had this happen with a bag full of quest items a couple times, i was so gutted. Would be cool to see them fix this one in some fashion
When you first join a raid Info is sent to BSG. After you leave Info is sent to BSG because the servers are expecting info back. BSG knows if you're doing this I dont care how accidental you're trying to make the alt F4 sound there is risk involved and its not worth my account. Its so easy to make cash on PVE anyway its only the marked and cards that have net losses.
That good but the downside is that its can be a huge waste of time since you can open dorms 20 times in a row without even extracting more than 500k per opening If you want rlly bad a colored keycard, just run labs and check their spawns You prob wont get more lucky but at least you dont waste the progression made in raid
now they're gonna make it so if my game crashes i lose all my shit, which is the main reason i play PvE in the first place, because 3 people are gonna waste their time resetting their bait keys. thanks man.
its pretty cool that you can do this if you want but unfortunately the spawns nowadays are so bad that, doing this dozens and dozens of times, you waste alot of time, and considering keycards are cheaper than they ever were, its hard to make profit too, but thanks for the vid :D
This is a simple bug to fix, they just havent solved it. Ideally your client would "check in" with the live servers when you load a raid, and "check out" when leaving a raid. If the checkout never occurs then on profile load delete gear etc and trigger insurance.
The server goes down you lose loot. There is unexpected packet loss you lose loot. The game crashes you lose loot. Also this would most likely create a cheat to extract instantly, anywhere.
It's quite a complex problem as I believe that to make the raid work they would have to save data locally as to the game state periodically and then update the server at the same time which causes issues itself with regards to disconnecting from the server or if it fails to sync at the time it tries to or that it could impact your FPS or performance at the time it tries to sync. It's an issue in many games that are single player that rely on servers once said game is complete
@@Mr.Samoloth what server? you're playing pve local. there is no server. if the game crashes your shit is gone if you play pvp too. yeah. fucking deal with it. hope bsg just goes about it like "game closed? raid lost - also insurance --> GONE. "
You can do this with the no boss or PMC AI so it’s only scavs too. You make way more going to going to lighthouse and doing this there is soooo many ammo spawns
I wouldn't call this a bug because as far as I can tell this is intended behaviour and can only happen in very specific situations. When you're playing with other players or solo on Streets, its hosted on a server and this doesn't work. When the game is hosted on a server, of course the loot in your possession, the uses of your keys, etc. all gets logged automatically because your computer is constantly in contact with the server to play the game. When solo PVE instances are hosted locally, the server doesn't need to know what is happening locally until the end of the raid. That's why quickly tapping alt+f4 after dying doesn't work because there's something in the code that tells the server you died and ends the raid instance. The biggest problem with this exploit is that I don't know if there is a viable solution to it. There may be ways that BSG could flag certain criteria to ping the server to update the character's inventory, but that could create problems like alt+f4 or legitimate crashes sometimes letting you keep whatever you looted in that raid before it crashed. It could also take up more server capacity to do so, and they made the locally hosted raids specifically to save servers for things that actually need to be online. Especially now that they've opened up PVE for sale to everyone as an add-on, that extra server capacity will be important to BSG. They may also be able to make any crashed client count as a death or MIA, but there could be technical challenges to that since a crashed raid doesn't technically end and I've experienced PVP and otherwise online raids where the server crashes and when I get back to the menu I still had everything I had when the raid started, and nothing I had looted (which I think suggests this is intended behaviour). They've also made it pretty clear that they don't really care about PVE so they may not care if people use exploits in PVE. This has been a known issue since they launched the locally hosted PVE raids, and there's also still No-AI exploits as well which seems to be linked to the Offline Co-op infrastructure they used to make the locally hosted PVE raids possible. This honestly may also be part of the reason for the loot nerf, to make people who are willing to waste their time accomplishing nothing in most raids just to get some of the best loot in a few. If it takes 10-15 minutes to load into the raid, run to the best loot spots, alt+f4 and re-launch the game then repeat, making loot pools worse so you only find stuff worth keeping every 5+ raids means there are actually faster legitimate ways to make money in the game. And if that's the case, the impact on the in-game economy would be minimal and BSG could justify not spending the dev time to fix it. All things considered, I don't think this is as game-breaking as it appears but for anyone who does actually use the exploit, I just have one request. Sell the spoils to the vendors, don't put it on the flea. That way it doesn't affect any other player's experience and becomes essentially harmless.
@@uzytkownik1709 dostum yapay zekayı artık kapatmayı düşünmeyi bırak oyunda pmcler artık daha kolay.. patronlar dahi kolay sen scavlere karşı oynuyormuş gibi korkmadan devam et... artık oyun daha zevkli.. sadece oyna 👍😎
@@NutshellExperience alr thanks, ive been trying to get content creators or ppl with names to talk about this because ive got no response from bsg for days
10:58 How are your PMCs so docile?? If I walked passed that room like you did, they would have onetapped me... My PMCs are always super reactive and aimbotty :s
@@daveyjoseph6058 I don't understand. If I don't spot them first AND onetap them in the process... I'm dead. Every single time. They will either onetap my head if Im not wearing a proper faceshield, or 3burst me in my waist, even though I'm wearing class 4 armor...
Very unfortunate that this is a thing I was wondering why marked keys were so overpriced I will not be doing this but thanks for explaining hopefully they patch out this exploit
you know what would suck if your game crashed and you'll lost all your gear and progress because people are calling this the most broken thing ever, I guess they could fix it by still removing a charge from the key at the same time it is pve people no one gives a crap about the number of rubles you have in your stash, you know what they should fix a filter option for stacked items purchase in the flea market so those troll people don't sell 200 eggs people who only want five
Damn, don't post such stuff😢. This feature greatly helped me when my game would ACTUALLY break and i could keep my nvg. While this stuff is a bit broken, this is really needed
Well, it is how it is. People ruining their own game or they having fun with it, I dont care. Yeah, sure, there is the flea market. But the flea market is already questionable in PVE with its current form (at some point the majority has everything for hideout etc) and it gets even more questionable if mods are actually coming with 1.0. You could either leave it as it is (and you use it or not) or rebuild it to a simulated one. But if mods actually coming this will be most likely topped by modders.
@@PK88. Well, if you take the idea of flea market from PVP... it doesnt work in PVE since PVE isnt meant to wipe (and should not wipe since its a advertised feature in the product. Everybody saw what happend with the Unheard release and changing the meaning of features in EOD edition). At some point the majority has most of the stuff and only certain items like Moonshine for example will be traded. Everything else will most likely have some weird prices. Only a small amount of players is either completely new or its players who wiped their profile. Nikita also announced mods with 1.0. Lets assume its basically everything possible... new traders could get modded into the game with everything on them, new weapons or any other items. That will create chaos on a live flea market with real players. At this point the flea market in its current form (I didnt said "remove the sh***y flea market!!11!1") will be heavy questionable. Thats why I said examples. Either dont change it at all and leave it as it is. Or replacing it with simulated flea market with a bit better balanced economy. Or either a option to completely disable it (some want to play without flea I think). I also have the idea that, if BSGs adds several profiles/saves (Pestily already asked Nikita about that in a interview if I remember correctly), that the current profile one could get switched over to "casual chilling (I dont know a good name for the mode haha)" where you have mods enabled and you have NO interactions at all with players. So you can do whatever you want. Then you could create a second profile and choose gamemode, either "casual chilling" again or "PVP like but PVE" which has wipes though. But you have flea market interactions with real players and the idea of flea market works, because it wipes. That obviously requires that "bugs" like the one showed in the video, gets fixed so economy doesn't take a hit. If we talking about gamemode selection they could actually also add something like "Hardcore" where you don't have mods enabled, no flea market in anyway at all and no stuff and secure container. Thats just a side idea off topic.
Artık botlar daha kolay ...Onu düşünmeyi bırak.. Sadece oyna...pve artık daha zevkli... Sadece oyna kendine güven..Bir pmc vurursan diğerleri üşüşmüyorlar artık...sadece oyna dostum 😎
Wow really broken waste of time which you could spend on actualy getting money (if you need them in a mode where money is not an issue at all) or getting some quests done, or just doing something useful with your life
Everyone complaining about time, I mean he needs to make a video for his channel to grow. 10 sec video wouldn't be that fun to watch and would do nothing for his channel
Why can’t people just play the game the way it’s meant to be played it’s so much more enjoyable than going to the same room on the same map 25+ times in a day just to watch a number go up
its really not that hard to get money the normal way in pve..and what to do with 170mil in pve at the end of the day. really not worth spamming marked rooms
I opened VO yesterday and got 2 Spears, the FDE M60 with a spectre on it, a regular M60, an injector case, a deagle and an AS-Val (the Val might have been a different opening, but I'm pretty sure it was in this same one). In one opening.
got it, play the game normally and rage quit when it sucks. well done. too much work for the gamble. too much video playtime for the first line of my text.
As a PvE shitter who can barely hack it on PvP servers.... this is lame as hell if you need to do this on to make money on PvE. No flame, but theres so many easy ways to make a shit load of roubles that aren't exploitative like this.
don’t do it, brothers and sisters, you’ll ruin the fun of Tarkov for yourselves. It’s just like abusing open to lan when you die in hardcore minecraft. remember the Dwarven wisdom - "losing is fun"
Bro I'd be ESPing in PVE if I REALLY wanted to. I want to, but not bad enough to DL Spt or actual cheats lol. Everyone plays differently. I used to only run factory and hide until the last 5 minutes to get scavs to spawn with FORT and Kiver helmet (those were the best armor in 2017 lol) just to not even take it out in raid. If someone really wants to play legit, they're not gonna do this anyway, like you say.
this is prob best way to scam for streamer items for kappa. can do it with flares too. Best way to make money is to just speed run factory with a couch bag. If you want to really maximize it use a pistol instead of primary slot gun. kill 3-9 PMCs grab decent armors and guns nades and meds and peace out. F1s sell for 9-10k a piece so bringing 5-10 out per raid and filling up a grenade case for a big bulk sale every dozen or so raids nets a decent extra profit. Fix up guns and armors save any good lvl 6 plates and ammo for later use and just vendor stuff to therapist, mech, ragman. Levels repair skills quick. I get around 750k per run depending on pmc spawns and killa spawn. I do about 7-10 mins per raid so really isnt hard to farm up 4-5 mill in an hour. plus every time I hope out I restart any hideout crafts. I kinda stumbled into this farming tags for quest Trophies and realized its pretty profitable
Yeah I tried this already and you end up wasting way more time resetting the game, when you could easily get as much money or more in the same time. Marked keys are expensive due to this as well, and keycards are frankly not nearly as worth it now that they are 10/10 as their price plummeted.
Wait till the people complaining realize there's no one to get an advantage on by doing this. Worst case scenario, you can brag and impress your friends with your money lol
Difference is this doesn’t hurt anyone’s gaming experience only the user. Cheaters in pvp screw everyone else that’s playing too. Even worse if you happen to be in the way of something they want Actually nowadays people just vacuum loot from spawn and don’t have to make a move
16 minutes in two sentences: load in - if loot rooms aren't good, alt f4 and load back into raid, repeating until desired loot. Doesn't work on streets.
16 minutes of unedited footage for that.
Hopefully this comment gets pinned on top
good looks g
Yeah, I can't with this guy. You think with a name like Nutshell he would sum things up but there is always so much yapping. It's just clickbait.
I normally like this guy's videos, but if that's the sum of it then yeah kind of crazy that it's 16 minutes.
THANK YOU!
16 min to say there's a bug when running local to Alt F4 and cheat good loot spawns. This and the recent patch are lame for PvE.
It's single-player offline exploits. You are losing nothing by not using them, and the person exploiting them is gaining nothing. In fact, they are losing time, the most important commodity.
Blame Bsg for their amateurishness
@@fwdcnorac8574 I'm losing time by watching a 16 minute video that couldve been less than a minute lmao
@@koioio yeah nutshell videos are clickbaits and ad times
yeah, seems that way eh?
This was worth doing before they killed colored keycard value
I 100% called it in your last video's comments . You were going to show everyone how to exploit the room after complaining about the loot being bad in the rooms .
The only thing as bad as loot boxes for gaming is youtubers
this is starting to be a valid assumption
People complaining as if it literally isn't just PVE, who cares, if you want to do it, do it, if not, don't! It's literally just that simple, no need to complain about bug abusing when it doesn't affect anyone from someone else using this.
It’s ruining the economy. He’s already fucked up the economy with his insider flea market shit from discord. It’s scummy.
Flea market says otherwise but I couldn’t care less
@@Gorlami90 Oh no the one single key MIGHT change in value because of a bug? This being a thing really isn't a big deal
im pretty sure thats why they made pve, so you can play the game you want to and not have to ever worry about cheaters or campers that are real people.
Doğru..Neden burda birilerine zararlı bir şeymiş gibi konuşuyorlar anlamıyorum...bırakın benim yerel oyunumdan sizene?
Btw Alt F4 Works also after dying but you have to do it very quick after the kill shoot - it’s very useful when you doing quest like “The quide” where you loose your progress when dying. But like I said - you have to press it very quickly - so you have to be mentally prepared for this ;)
You can alt f4 when you die. You just need to do it before the screen goes black
For the amount of time it takes to do this and how infrequently the keycards spawn (I ran a full 10/10 dorms marked key normally and only got 1 keycard) you could just spam Streets or Ground Zero runs for bolts/ES lamps/GPU's, I consistently average 2-3m per raid this way.
So while I agree with the fact that people shouldn’t do this because it’s pointless there is also a group of players that don’t want to just farm the same map over and over for loot. The most fun way to play is to just learn the better loot areas on each map and just run around those while doing quests but people are going to bug abuse till it gets patched
Yeah frankly this is cool for like grabbing stuff you cant buy easily like spears or m60s or keycards or whatever but i cannot imagine many people that are making the choice to play pve over pvp are going to be willing to waste the time it takes to load in, run, secure and loot just a single marked room, over and over until they get good loot, or alt f4 if they dont. Its an interesting little exploit for sure and would be tight for getting info on loot tables and probabilities and profit per openning and stuff really easily compared to other options.
Exactly my point, the time to do this is just not worth it for me.
more like an emergency button if you get to a key room really quickly and it has the absolute dogshit loot in it
@gordonramsayfanatic yeah like if I open 314 off rip and it's ass I might do this for sure you right
The only downside being time wasted, honestly you make more money in the same amount of time hunting bosses like the goons or tagilla cause keys just arent worth buying ☹️
They may not be worth, BUT people will still continue to buy them soooo….
Pve economy is already fucked. This won’t matter lol
Let’s be honest, was there EVER a economy? You had AI PMCS running level 5 armor with the AI of surface raiders on reserve. Not to mention how easy it is to get from place to place.
@@shibe6808how that compares to selling keycards, Ledx, military power filters?
I sold 5 filters, I got 20 millions. No armour ever cost this much.
@@alexzero3736 A week ago I could sell salt for 800k, now it's at 20k
@@alexzero3736just sounds like they need to buff loot
@@DeadKaspar thats just the market setting the value dude. nothing new. every item does it.
I couldn’t imagine alt f4 unless I got some weird glitch or stuck. It’s so easy to make money on just customs runs without marked key. Easy 2-4mil in a couple hrs without a marked key.
Couple hours is crazy more like 2 raids at most
i might just use this if i keep getting the weather station spawn on shoreline. screw you birdeye lol
Şuan Al zayıflaması ile pve harika bir oyun oldu...Tam doğru şekilde...pmcler bazen saldırıyor bazen kaçıyor...Tam doğru ve iyi bir şekilde...Burdan hep eleştiri yaptım...Şuan BSG ye teşekkür ediyorum..😁
For a second, I thought I was gonna see him load it back up and still be in marked but have different loot spawns. That would be super broken , wonder how long until they fix the key not losing uses tho...
Did this on accident once when my cursor was showing in the center of my screen. I alt+f4’d and was back in the lobby with my kit and was super confused lol
This has been in for the longest time haha, I have used this a couple of times when the game bugged out which would almost get me killed at times (hands busy for instance)
Ironic that your UA-cam handle is "Nutshell" but your videos are anything BUT that. 16min video to explain a < 1min topic. Rather distasteful and disingenuous to try to farm your viewers like that and basically waste our time. Maybe next time just tell us up front and then leave the "here's what it looks like when you do this" until after the explanation for people who want to support your channel and watch the full video. you'll upset a lot less people and likely even gain a lot more viewers/subscribers because the content is decent, but the way you make the videos and drag out all the information is a pretty underhanded way of forcing people to watch a > 10 min video to farm ad revenue.
Make sure you hit up all the jackets around 12 in both buildings got form marked key couple times from it
Alt f4 as you die used to work though, is this fixed?
I would like to know, at what point does the match save the data? If I were to die in game, is there a point where I could press alt f4 before returning to menu that wouldn't save the death?
at raid end. At any point before you extract if you disconnect in any way that entire raid basically never happened. People are thinking "oh cool exploit" but this also means if you lose power or internet mid raid you lose all the progress from the raid. Had this happen with a bag full of quest items a couple times, i was so gutted. Would be cool to see them fix this one in some fashion
When you first join a raid Info is sent to BSG. After you leave Info is sent to BSG because the servers are expecting info back. BSG knows if you're doing this I dont care how accidental you're trying to make the alt F4 sound there is risk involved and its not worth my account. Its so easy to make cash on PVE anyway its only the marked and cards that have net losses.
That good but the downside is that its can be a huge waste of time since you can open dorms 20 times in a row without even extracting more than 500k per opening
If you want rlly bad a colored keycard, just run labs and check their spawns
You prob wont get more lucky but at least you dont waste the progression made in raid
is loot in pve much better than in pvp ? i just hopped on the game after a break of half a year and found 2 ledx so i am just wondering
does this still work as of 09/21/24????
i checked this, it in fact does still work
now they're gonna make it so if my game crashes i lose all my shit, which is the main reason i play PvE in the first place, because 3 people are gonna waste their time resetting their bait keys. thanks man.
u can do the alt+f4 if u get killed aslong as u press it before it gets complett black ur save
its pretty cool that you can do this if you want but unfortunately the spawns nowadays are so bad that, doing this dozens and dozens of times, you waste alot of time, and considering keycards are cheaper than they ever were, its hard to make profit too, but thanks for the vid :D
Does this only work on single player pve or coop also?
The word you are searching for at 3:06 is "exploid". Also this vid could have been 1min and also it would had all the usefull info...
Can you not just put loot in your gamma and leave? Then get the loot and save the key use also?
It’s for nothing else, but finding key cards .
This is a simple bug to fix, they just havent solved it. Ideally your client would "check in" with the live servers when you load a raid, and "check out" when leaving a raid. If the checkout never occurs then on profile load delete gear etc and trigger insurance.
The server goes down you lose loot. There is unexpected packet loss you lose loot. The game crashes you lose loot. Also this would most likely create a cheat to extract instantly, anywhere.
It's quite a complex problem as I believe that to make the raid work they would have to save data locally as to the game state periodically and then update the server at the same time which causes issues itself with regards to disconnecting from the server or if it fails to sync at the time it tries to or that it could impact your FPS or performance at the time it tries to sync. It's an issue in many games that are single player that rely on servers once said game is complete
@@Mr.Samoloth what server? you're playing pve local. there is no server. if the game crashes your shit is gone if you play pvp too. yeah. fucking deal with it.
hope bsg just goes about it like "game closed? raid lost - also insurance --> GONE. "
FINALLY a PVE channel
Has this been fixed? i cant seem to get it to work
You can do this with the no boss or PMC AI so it’s only scavs too. You make way more going to going to lighthouse and doing this there is soooo many ammo spawns
Do you? I think the no AI bug is patched unless there is the new way to turn AI off.
@@uzytkownik1709 yeah same, the classic way, from pmc to scav then back etc. doesnt work post patch anymore :D
Damn bro. Wait until I get off work before you post these damn videos so I can at least do it a couple of times.
hahaha I feel you bro
This is a known bug that has been there since they added pve
did you get off yet homie?
this has been known since like april
I wouldn't call this a bug because as far as I can tell this is intended behaviour and can only happen in very specific situations. When you're playing with other players or solo on Streets, its hosted on a server and this doesn't work.
When the game is hosted on a server, of course the loot in your possession, the uses of your keys, etc. all gets logged automatically because your computer is constantly in contact with the server to play the game. When solo PVE instances are hosted locally, the server doesn't need to know what is happening locally until the end of the raid. That's why quickly tapping alt+f4 after dying doesn't work because there's something in the code that tells the server you died and ends the raid instance.
The biggest problem with this exploit is that I don't know if there is a viable solution to it. There may be ways that BSG could flag certain criteria to ping the server to update the character's inventory, but that could create problems like alt+f4 or legitimate crashes sometimes letting you keep whatever you looted in that raid before it crashed. It could also take up more server capacity to do so, and they made the locally hosted raids specifically to save servers for things that actually need to be online. Especially now that they've opened up PVE for sale to everyone as an add-on, that extra server capacity will be important to BSG.
They may also be able to make any crashed client count as a death or MIA, but there could be technical challenges to that since a crashed raid doesn't technically end and I've experienced PVP and otherwise online raids where the server crashes and when I get back to the menu I still had everything I had when the raid started, and nothing I had looted (which I think suggests this is intended behaviour).
They've also made it pretty clear that they don't really care about PVE so they may not care if people use exploits in PVE. This has been a known issue since they launched the locally hosted PVE raids, and there's also still No-AI exploits as well which seems to be linked to the Offline Co-op infrastructure they used to make the locally hosted PVE raids possible.
This honestly may also be part of the reason for the loot nerf, to make people who are willing to waste their time accomplishing nothing in most raids just to get some of the best loot in a few. If it takes 10-15 minutes to load into the raid, run to the best loot spots, alt+f4 and re-launch the game then repeat, making loot pools worse so you only find stuff worth keeping every 5+ raids means there are actually faster legitimate ways to make money in the game. And if that's the case, the impact on the in-game economy would be minimal and BSG could justify not spending the dev time to fix it.
All things considered, I don't think this is as game-breaking as it appears but for anyone who does actually use the exploit, I just have one request. Sell the spoils to the vendors, don't put it on the flea. That way it doesn't affect any other player's experience and becomes essentially harmless.
Are there new no AI exploits? How to turn AI off this patch?
@@uzytkownik1709 dostum yapay zekayı artık kapatmayı düşünmeyi bırak oyunda pmcler artık daha kolay.. patronlar dahi kolay sen scavlere karşı oynuyormuş gibi korkmadan devam et... artık oyun daha zevkli.. sadece oyna 👍😎
can you talk about the not being able to get kappa in pve after 0.15 bug
Yeah I'll do a known issues video covering the topics, If you have any more bugs etc let me know!
@@NutshellExperience alr thanks, ive been trying to get content creators or ppl with names to talk about this because ive got no response from bsg for days
you can actually alt f4 when you die, you have to be fast tho
Still no fixes for local fps?
clickbait...
10:58 How are your PMCs so docile?? If I walked passed that room like you did, they would have onetapped me... My PMCs are always super reactive and aimbotty :s
mine are between scavs and raiders. about as accurate as raiders, but not nearly as aggressive or quick to react
@@daveyjoseph6058 I don't understand. If I don't spot them first AND onetap them in the process... I'm dead. Every single time. They will either onetap my head if Im not wearing a proper faceshield, or 3burst me in my waist, even though I'm wearing class 4 armor...
Cool video, and bug, But I'd rather just run a couple raids instead of resetting 😁🙏
I thought one of the ways of getting negative pmc karma was forced disconects/ closing the game
Does this work if you do it seconds after dieing to “deny” a death?
Nah he claims in the video it doesn’t, but I haven’t tested it.
Nope
The moment you drop dead in raid the game and server resync
If you manage to pull it off before you die then yes
@@ivanvukadin3194 I was just about to ask if you did it if you KNEW you were about to die. Thanks for the answer
Very unfortunate that this is a thing I was wondering why marked keys were so overpriced I will not be doing this but thanks for explaining hopefully they patch out this exploit
I wonder if you can do this as you are dying ?
you know what would suck if your game crashed and you'll lost all your gear and progress because people are calling this the most broken thing ever, I guess they could fix it by still removing a charge from the key at the same time it is pve people no one gives a crap about the number of rubles you have in your stash,
you know what they should fix a filter option for stacked items purchase in the flea market so those troll people don't sell 200 eggs people who only want five
you lose 5-15 mins when restart raid, it`s lose of skills and any other profit.
That's why I don't bother, I find it more fun playing normally but I'm sure some people will find it useful
Damn, don't post such stuff😢. This feature greatly helped me when my game would ACTUALLY break and i could keep my nvg. While this stuff is a bit broken, this is really needed
after runinng labs atleast 100 plus times in the past month i finally found a Green keycard on the Manager Desk...................
Well, it is how it is. People ruining their own game or they having fun with it, I dont care. Yeah, sure, there is the flea market. But the flea market is already questionable in PVE with its current form (at some point the majority has everything for hideout etc) and it gets even more questionable if mods are actually coming with 1.0. You could either leave it as it is (and you use it or not) or rebuild it to a simulated one. But if mods actually coming this will be most likely topped by modders.
Why would it be questionable for PvE?
@@PK88. Well, if you take the idea of flea market from PVP... it doesnt work in PVE since PVE isnt meant to wipe (and should not wipe since its a advertised feature in the product. Everybody saw what happend with the Unheard release and changing the meaning of features in EOD edition). At some point the majority has most of the stuff and only certain items like Moonshine for example will be traded. Everything else will most likely have some weird prices. Only a small amount of players is either completely new or its players who wiped their profile.
Nikita also announced mods with 1.0. Lets assume its basically everything possible... new traders could get modded into the game with everything on them, new weapons or any other items. That will create chaos on a live flea market with real players. At this point the flea market in its current form (I didnt said "remove the sh***y flea market!!11!1") will be heavy questionable. Thats why I said examples. Either dont change it at all and leave it as it is. Or replacing it with simulated flea market with a bit better balanced economy. Or either a option to completely disable it (some want to play without flea I think). I also have the idea that, if BSGs adds several profiles/saves (Pestily already asked Nikita about that in a interview if I remember correctly), that the current profile one could get switched over to "casual chilling (I dont know a good name for the mode haha)" where you have mods enabled and you have NO interactions at all with players. So you can do whatever you want. Then you could create a second profile and choose gamemode, either "casual chilling" again or "PVP like but PVE" which has wipes though. But you have flea market interactions with real players and the idea of flea market works, because it wipes. That obviously requires that "bugs" like the one showed in the video, gets fixed so economy doesn't take a hit. If we talking about gamemode selection they could actually also add something like "Hardcore" where you don't have mods enabled, no flea market in anyway at all and no stuff and secure container. Thats just a side idea off topic.
He finally got a different flashlight for the mobile users!! 😂 Finally I won't be bothered by the light being cut in half by the players hands
Perfectly balanced one would say
loot in 314 will never be as valuable as the key's worth in pve, which ranges around 12 Mil for used ones
This has been around for quite a while
But what is the point of getting money if you dont play agains other people and it does not wipe? Whats the challenge supposed to be?
Everything else? There is more to the game than PVP. Kind of a smooth brain take.
Good stuff brother
Is there a method for the no boss bug yet for .15?
Artık botlar daha kolay ...Onu düşünmeyi bırak.. Sadece oyna...pve artık daha zevkli... Sadece oyna kendine güven..Bir pmc vurursan diğerleri üşüşmüyorlar artık...sadece oyna dostum 😎
Alt+f4 frame perfectly upon death counters the entire raid aswell use this info as you wish
Wow really broken waste of time which you could spend on actualy getting money (if you need them in a mode where money is not an issue at all) or getting some quests done, or just doing something useful with your life
Everyone complaining about time, I mean he needs to make a video for his channel to grow. 10 sec video wouldn't be that fun to watch and would do nothing for his channel
Or you know, you could just play the geam?
Bulletin: This just in, save-scumming single player games has been around since before most of us were born.
Do you know if this still works if so bouta spend all my cash on a good key to do this lmao
I did 2 uses of a marked key before patch and got shit all
You don't have to include a bunch of narrated raid footage just to tell us you can alt+f4 to reset your profile to before the raid started.
Why can’t people just play the game the way it’s meant to be played it’s so much more enjoyable than going to the same room on the same map 25+ times in a day just to watch a number go up
its really not that hard to get money the normal way in pve..and what to do with 170mil in pve at the end of the day. really not worth spamming marked rooms
Marked is like 19m yesterday for me 😅
Reserve marked room key. 10 successful opens and extracts. I got 1 spear and some g28s. Everything else was trash.
I opened VO yesterday and got 2 Spears, the FDE M60 with a spectre on it, a regular M60, an injector case, a deagle and an AS-Val (the Val might have been a different opening, but I'm pretty sure it was in this same one). In one opening.
This is why boss' spawn what feels like 100% of the time 😢
Önemli değil... Artık bende patron öldürebiliyorum... Artık daha kolaylar..Korkma sadece oyna...Oyun artık mükemmel.. sadece oyna kendine güven..😎
got it, play the game normally and rage quit when it sucks.
well done. too much work for the gamble. too much video playtime for the first line of my text.
still working?
As a PvE shitter who can barely hack it on PvP servers.... this is lame as hell if you need to do this on to make money on PvE. No flame, but theres so many easy ways to make a shit load of roubles that aren't exploitative like this.
don’t do it, brothers and sisters, you’ll ruin the fun of Tarkov for yourselves. It’s just like abusing open to lan when you die in hardcore minecraft.
remember the Dwarven wisdom - "losing is fun"
Bro I'd be ESPing in PVE if I REALLY wanted to. I want to, but not bad enough to DL Spt or actual cheats lol. Everyone plays differently. I used to only run factory and hide until the last 5 minutes to get scavs to spawn with FORT and Kiver helmet (those were the best armor in 2017 lol) just to not even take it out in raid. If someone really wants to play legit, they're not gonna do this anyway, like you say.
never thought i'd see a fellow DF enjoyer play Tarkov!
This is 0 IQ stupidity. It ruins the fun of finding good stuff and most importantly wastes your time when money and gear are infinite.
Money and gear are not infinite. What's your IQ?
@@laplacesdemon01 bro in pve it is. You genuinely have to be a horrible player to not do well in pve lol
@@anthonyr6227 you have ten thousand hours stop talking to me and get back in raid
Bro is trying everything in his power to force bsg to fix the non needed fixes, while leaving the obvious ones aside
doesnt work anymore!
people been doing this for months.
this is prob best way to scam for streamer items for kappa. can do it with flares too.
Best way to make money is to just speed run factory with a couch bag. If you want to really maximize it use a pistol instead of primary slot gun. kill 3-9 PMCs grab decent armors and guns nades and meds and peace out. F1s sell for 9-10k a piece so bringing 5-10 out per raid and filling up a grenade case for a big bulk sale every dozen or so raids nets a decent extra profit. Fix up guns and armors save any good lvl 6 plates and ammo for later use and just vendor stuff to therapist, mech, ragman. Levels repair skills quick. I get around 750k per run depending on pmc spawns and killa spawn. I do about 7-10 mins per raid so really isnt hard to farm up 4-5 mill in an hour. plus every time I hope out I restart any hideout crafts.
I kinda stumbled into this farming tags for quest Trophies and realized its pretty profitable
Can confirm, this does not work on pvp guys!
How to turn "Alt F4" into a 16 minute video.
TLDR: Alt F4 if you're loot isn't there.
Yeah I tried this already and you end up wasting way more time resetting the game, when you could easily get as much money or more in the same time. Marked keys are expensive due to this as well, and keycards are frankly not nearly as worth it now that they are 10/10 as their price plummeted.
It's fine for the bosses
Wait till the people complaining realize there's no one to get an advantage on by doing this. Worst case scenario, you can brag and impress your friends with your money lol
Pretty sure they fixed this
we all already knew this
I mean if that’s how you want to spend your time, but it just doesn’t seem time efficient.
actually what i know from the people on my discord. they pulled about 20-30 keycards in a 3-4hr span. especially before the wipe that was hella cash.
Can you just send personal emails to everyone instead next time... you know now this will be patched also lol
16 min????? thats normaly a 2min viedeo
TALK TALK TALK TALK TALK INFO TALK TALKTALKTALKTALK
So it’s like the bo3 gobble gum glitch 😂
Please don’t give justification to stupid key prices
Yeah, it’s not as big of a bug as one might think.
It takes a lot of time to just enter the rate again. All that time was lost.
Yah broken... 20 mins of your life wasted to save on 1 use of a key
You bought PVE to avoid the cheaters. Now you guys are becoming the cheaters. Smh
😂😂
Difference is this doesn’t hurt anyone’s gaming experience only the user. Cheaters in pvp screw everyone else that’s playing too. Even worse if you happen to be in the way of something they want
Actually nowadays people just vacuum loot from spawn and don’t have to make a move
Mate this bug is since pve mode started and everyone knows that so why you making new video about this?
how do u think i became a billionair...