Unless you are a UA-camr, Streamer, or have 40hrs a week to play. PVE is significantly better. Have a buddy or two to play with, lots of fun and NO cheaters, NO loot vacuums, and NO wiping. I like Tarkov it has a great environment, cool maps, awesome guns and gear, and lots of stuff to grind and work towards. Dying to ChowMein1293 on Labs flying through the walls and losing all my gear is not fun, anyone still playing PVP is a little unhinged and must like pain.
100% agree. Completely gave up on LEARNING Tarkov, because going up against ultra chads or player scavs that would kill me just made it impossible to stay alive long enough to learn. Been playing PVE for a week or two and I have confidently learned the Ground Zero map and Customs, so it was well worth it. Still dying a lot, but learning from those mistakes.
as someone who started off with pvp, i've fully switched to pve and have been having a blast. either solo or with friends, it's very fun and i totally recommend it!
@@Bers3rk_tvTbh the ai is stupid rn 😅 Scavs shoot me from wayyyy too far and pmcs have no recoil and are just mini bosses, im not the best at the game but im good enough to know that the pmc and scav ai need a small tweek 😅
@@LuxTheFolfthey are still stupid. The scavs arnt bad once you get better armor but a guy gave me lvl 6 plates, a lvl 4 helm and a skull mask but i still constantly get arm pitted even
For me, the draw to PvE was almost entirely because of the lack of wipes. There are the added benefits of no cheaters and no queue times for solo raids, but as someone who has very limited time to play, being able to play at my own pace is wonderful.
I have thousands of hours in PVP. Kappa multiple times. Lightkeeper too. But I agree. WIPES SUX. They are commercial oriented, just for the hype and to streamers rush in 3 weeks. Funny how they wanna a wipe, and not wipe their account, so they can upload a video with 8 timmy kills on customs on week 1, after being lvl 42+ while normal people are at lvl 8.
I play duo with a friend and we now are at a point where we get quests we have never seen before. Played like 6-7 wipes but never got this far. Maybe at some point it gets stale and we want to get some PvP action again but for now it's pretty nice progressing that far with almost no setbacks.
PVE is fun and refreshing but it needs more events and even map modifiers on certain maps to spice things up. If they had a map modifier that cycled every couple hours that changed things on maps like boss spawns and the amount of loot it would make PVE waaaay more enjoyable.
5% spawn chance for the goons is complete bs. they are in 7/10 shoreline raids for me. I was running past weather station last night (mind you I was a good 200+ meters away) when they aggrod on me, and the maniacs followed me all the way to health resort where I killed Big Pipe and Knight, but the third was nowhere to be found. Never seen them follow like that, and shoreline is my main map.
I played through 2 wipes in PvP, one to learn the game and one to hopefully experience the whole game. I was probably the WORST tarkov player on the planet so needless to say I never got to level 30 on the second wipe cause I died so often and gave up alot. PvE has made the game so much more fun, I get to experience the META guns, maxed traders, maxed hideout, fighting bosses, etc. It is much much more fun for me.
Quite literally all they need to do to make it more enjoyable is reduce NPC accuracy through bushes etc. I don't like being beamed by someone who I couldn't see and who couldn't see me if it was on a pvp server
I think pve is gonna be take on by the community in a certain measure with mods in the future. nikitta don''tt like the pve mode and saaid he will not made a lot for it
My biggest con with PvE is that it feels like you're fighting the entire map. PMC vs scav battles are inconsistent, sometimes they fight and sometimes they gather together. PMC's also rarely engage each other. The maps are often dead quiet outside of your own firefights
PVE is awesome.Some things I think need work. 1. Tune down the aimbot scavs, getting insta tapped by a silent scav in a bush sucks. 2. Make a difficulty selection, such as easy, normal, hard, and hardcore. Along with different rewards for harder settings. 3. Would be nice to access Ref in pve, and have the new keys and rewards available.
fully switched to PVE.I typically only play on Friday nights and Saturdays. I may be able to hop on and knock out a quest on another day but this significantly helps people enjoy tarkov without the stress of falling behind because you don't have to keep up.
infinite AI scav spawns, PMCS are always in a group of max 5 and aimbotting through bushes sometimes even containers goons spawning every god damn raid... bosses feel like 100% spawn they see 1 pixel of you and instant game over pmcs dont loot and always have the same kits all AI gets stuck every time.. some quests are impossible to do because AI very rarely go there, example the quest "huntsman path secured perimeter" game feels like you are "hunted" by AI meaning they rush you out of nowhere sometimes scavs and pmc on woods for example, was going to loot bunker and i got rushed by 2 pmcs thats all i can think of right now..
Man, seems like we're playing two different games... I rarely get bosses to spawn (trying for the 20 shtruman kills) and Goons I avoid with the Goons tracker. The Secured perimeter I got done in two raids recently. The AI aim bot is a pain - especially the scavs for me. The PMC's are annoying but if you break LOS and don't repeak the same angle (or jus slow lean right hand peak) they won't shoot back. I honestly love the infinite scav spawns and the AI being aggressive towards me as it feels more like regular tarkov... but then again, I came from over 1000 hours in PVP. i've seen PMC's looting recently too... mostly trash but I've pulled LedX, GPU, and some good stims off of them.
Take the 3 minutes it takes and download Spt and play it. You can mod it easily as copy pasting files and have Tarkov be tweaked to your hearts desire. Or you can seeth and mald at devs who don’t care and won’t implement features you can easily mod yourself in.
Personal take: started back in Wipe .12. I was in college full time and everyone knows you have way more time (generally) to play during those years. Now I’m 5+ years in the workforce. I work 45-60 hours a week to pay bills, then have to maintain my place, chores, have a gf now which I didn’t back in college. If I have to schedule time with friends weeks or even months in advance then it’s safe to say it’s hard to find time to game anymore. PvE and no wipes let’s me play this game both a little more relaxed and at a pace where I don’t feel like I’m falling behind the sweats or at the very least the majority of folks grinding. I really feel for the folks who have kids/family they have to take care of. As a multiwipe pvp guy, I think it’s a great addition to the game. I still enjoy pvp. But with pve, I may get to see kappa again and even see lightkeeper for the first time. Plus it’s easier to convince my friends to play who are more casual and are just getting into it. The cheaters grinding out maps like labs, Reserve and Shoreline (some of my fav maps) in pvp also kinda discourage me from playing PvP regularly. But hey as we’ve all said for years: “Welcome to Tarkov”
Good tip, Hold the corners of anything you can as much as you can, They literally stop working if you fight them on a corner of a room or inside a building as they usually need to crouch before shooting you it gives you like 1s to shoot them freely each time
I just hit level 69 in pve and I realised maybe I would like some feature to reset my quest line, leaving my levels and money alone. :D but that is QoL dream. I need so much Experience to gain levels now that when I finish my questline (almost there) - I could reboot the whole thing for practise and fun.
what bugs me is its missing Ref and Marathon/linked maps. Has some of the marathon quest stuff. Marking the exits etc but not ability to use linked paths.
In Regards to Kappa. I was in the category, until I realized they hid Kappa behind Test Drive Part 2-5 now instead of just Part 1. It's absolutely terrible, but it is what it is.
Speed ran Kappa with a pal when PVE came out. Was really difficult with the shorter raid times; but, was good to get it done before the AI and quest changes
@@BobGrayTdC yeah I finished shooter born like 1 day after the patch and then did all the factory quests and then was confused to why Kappa didn’t show up. Then we found it was behind Test Drive. It’s been absolutely miserable. Made me stop playing for the last week tbh.
@@HeXiiK_TTV Test Drive in PVP isn't bad -- until Test Drive Part 3 or 4 -- the AK 12 kills on Lighthouse kinda suck; still haven't cared to do that because it wasn't required. I have a total of 3 or 4 quests remaining (all having to-do with cultists because they are miserable to hunt right now). I'm PVEmeBroGG in-game (for now). give me a shout we can run
@@BobGrayTdC My computer is so butt that I get like 25-30fps on streets so I’m just struggling on streets to get the 20 pmcs on there with the SR-2M. I got 8 so far through like 4 raids, which ain’t bad but good lord the performance man. So miserable. I play Lighthouse a lot, which is kind of psycho, but I like the map on PvE. Not looking forward to the RPD on shoreline, not gonna lie lol. Yeah I’ll hit you up once I come back to the game. Needed a break cuz I was baby raging at that change a little bit lol
Wait are you serious? I had checked my quests multiple times and test drive 2 wasnt a requirement so the wiki must have been updated only recently. I am so mad now because this is the only reason I didnt get kappa xD I wasnt bothering doing these as it wasnt required. Thank you for this comment, I know what to grind out now..
i play PVE 100% now. they update it pretty hard. Yesterday i got ambushed by 3 PMC-s that were camping in dorms Restroom, dont ask, i didnt know they can even do that
The beaming through bushes/windows you cant look through is the most annoying part about the AI, also that they start lasering you from 200m away while you are scanning an area
I got back into Tarkov because I work too much and PVE makes it a lot easier for me to get in. The biggest thing I would complain about is it’s very hard for me to tell the difference between Scavs and PMCs while playing a scav. Unless you catch them where they call out before the engagement, I’ve literally sat there looking at the guy for minutes trying to determine whether I should kill them or not then they turn around and just shoot me in the face.
Going into pve after 2 wipes where learning the game was super hampered by players who knew spawns, scavs blasting me through foliage and tiny pixels in the environment, and my lack of map knowledge: I appreciate this mode. Not needing to worry about giga PMCs and cheaters every single time I raid on my PMC is a huge value add to this game
Yeah tarkov players definition of "Relax" Differ quite significantly what relax really is I really jump in to this game once difficulty options will be available to adjust 6:49
As a casual I love PVE, only issues I have found is 1- rogues and PMC’s demolishing class 6 plates with terrible ammo (eg. 5.56x45 HP) 2- PMC’s and scavs literally hanging out together and pressing you together. Other than that it is a lot of fun to play around with and when you don’t have tons of time knowing that you have the ability to still play through the quest line without worrying about a wipe until you want to is great
I came back to Tarkov because the PVE mode and also got my friends to buy the PVE mode. Otherwise I wouldn’t have the time to experience Tarkov the way I want, because you have to keep up with everyone else. Now I can enjoy the looting, building guns and upgrade the hideout. This somehow is the neat part of Tarkov of me. The Ai can’t cheat, but will headshot you easy if you are incautious.
I played Tarkov first, and I fell completely in love, even with my 30% survival rate. But I found the only thing I liked as much was stuff like Metro, Stalker, and even Zero Sievert. PvE gives me experiences like that but with added co-op and that really scratches an itch for me. I can make Tarkov what I want and don't have to worry about meta.
Been an EFT player since 2018, but I've found so little time to play it (only up to level 35 3 years ago). With so little time to play and all those chads, tryhards, and cheaters, it's given me so much PTSD. This is a good way to experience it while having the fun and excitement the game offers (minus the bosses, especially Partisan, giving me headache when playing solo).
In the past 2 weeks I progressed further in PVE then I ever have in any wipe in PVP. Ive done things and have seen sides of tarkov I havent seen before because I can play the game in an environment that lets me play it at my pace. Not getting killed by chads and cheaters in every third raid. It still has bugs and other issues but I never had this much fun in Tarkov before.
PvE is why I eventually relented to play Tarkov. I used to be really good at shooter games, but that was 20 years ago, in the CS 1.5 era. Now, I'm pushing 40, my reflexes are shot and I don't have the time or the patience to try and keep up with the kids. PvE offered the fun of Tarkov without all the cheaters, tryhards and no-lifers that just take all the fun out of the game. Now, I get to play co-op with my friends and progress at my own pace without worrying about wipes and keeping up with the meta. Sure, the AI has it's own problems, but at least those are consistent. I understand this consistency is what turns a lot of people off from PvE, since after you get used to the AI's behavior, the enemies become quite predictable, and boring for some people. To me, it's great! I can get into raids on different maps and know exactly what to expect, there are no cheaters flying through walls, no tryhards camping in corners and no 16 year-old Mr_360nOsCoPe braining me from the other side of the map as soon as I spawn in. I know there are people who want more of a challenge than this, but when you only get a couple hours to play every day, you appreciate consistency in games like these. As for the bugs, well, there are plenty of them, but so far I haven't experienced anything really game-breaking or something that set my progress back for days or weeks, so I'm glad. I know Nikita, the main dev openly said he hates the PvE mode and wishes that everyone would just play PvP, and I understand that was and always will be the intended experience of Tarkov, but I'm never going to play that. If they take away PvE, I guess that's when I stop playing.
Only pve complaint is if you try to remove a Lazer or sight from a pmc gun every once in a while you'll get a white block in the center of your screen.
PVE has become one of the things my friends and I absolutely love. It lets us have the fun of tarkov without the stress of randomly dying to other players. The biggest issue for me is the bosses/scavs and players not always fighting especially the Goons. The Goons should be fighting the other PVE Players. Other than that and randomly being head, Jaws killed we love PVE.
I really enjoy pve. Im fairly new to the game and its just an easier way to learn the game. Tasks maps etc. The only main complaints I have is boss spawn rate and insane pmc aimbot. Some maps with bushes or hard to see sightlines are unbearable. Pmcs at range if the agro at you its almost always resulting in a death. If you peak your head just to slow peak an angle almost always death at certain locations. Thats my main complaint is not being able to learn the parts of the maps that pmcs always spawn at over fear of death. But thats just me a new player whos still trying to figure out the best post fx settings to accuratly see those aimbotting freaks.
Thats fine youre learning. If I may offer advice, never slow peek, always quick peek using Q and E so they dont have time to aggro. If anything is pushing you its best to hold a right side peek if you can, due to peakers advantage (you see enemy sooner than they see you). Aim for headshots as much as possible, but that will take time if youre not used to tarkov aim. With enough practice you will know how to fight PMCs and boss guards and various bosses. Also keep in mind which ammo youre using, if you open the ammo type, you have this armor effectivenes field where it tells you what armor lvl its good against. If your ammo is mostly flesh damage ammo with no penetration then aim for legs and arms or stomach as PMCs usually have thorax covered in armor. Also my post fx are color grading jason and only sliders I changed are brightness at 40 and saturation at 40. Give it a try if you want to, see if that works
To help what ive noticed is they seem to get more accurate the longer they have a sightline on you. Always stick to cover and dont peek the same angles if you can help it. Maneuvering is your best asset against them.
@mipi12323 that's not speakers advantage. speakers advantage is the person pushing has advantage because of the way ping works. aggressive players who swing get peakers advantage on people holding.
None of these complaints come anywhere close to how NEEDED an audio fix is. It is absolute trash, and i dont understand how they havent neglected new content for an update to just fix the shit. Its insane to me
I tried to get into Tarkov a couple years ago but simply didn’t have the time to get into it because I kept getting murdered brutally over and over again and only had time to play a raid, maybe 2 a day. PVE is exactly what people like me need to fully enjoy this game. Been playing it a few months now and have had so much fun! I was actually able to learn the maps and get tasks done with friends. I feel like the PVE mode is an awesome stepping stone for new players to learn the game so they can then move onto PVP when they are ready!
I would like to see tunable options for raids, having the Goons spawn Lighthouse every other time I run a raid is annoying when I’m trying to just get tasks done, my PvE experience was so smooth until I had to start Lighthouse tasking, then it’s 4-5 raids in a row of just dying to bs
if youre struggling to take on the goons, as soon as they agro you, try running off into a comfortable position, preferably a building, all 3 of them will chase and youll have an easier time killing them while they phase through a door trying to open it. Make sure to bring a full auto weapon and aim for head while they bug into doors. This method allows you to kill bird eye much easier than simply looking for his bush camping ass.
@@moon.1311 It’s not so much that I struggle with them, 8/10 times I get all three relatively easily, it’s the fight with the Rogues afterwards, they come running up from every angle once the Goons start eating my bullets 😭
I started tarkov about 2 weeks ago. got rekt trying to unlock ref so I started playing the pve mode in between scav runs. Once I hit lvl 15 and get far in quests I will probably go back to pvp, but I agree that pve feels like a long tutorial for pvp. I have learned a few maps, a lot of keybinds, the stash system, and generally how to build a gun. To the dummy strong AI notes. Since I as a fool decided to work on the goons as my first boss, I appreciate getting lasered because its def gonna happen in pvp. Some dudes are just that good and it has taught me to keep my head down in the crackhouse, peek corners in dorms, and listen real close in interchange
Me and my friends started with PVP, and it wasn't as much fun as PvE. Having to deal with wipes, cheaters and how much we work. It just wasn't fun. But PvE brought us back and we are having a blast. It reignited our love for tarkov
I love pve, I can expereince tarkov at my own pace and time and never have to worry about wipe. Also its easyoer than pvp in some ways. I have a hearing loss in both ears. And pve is the only way i feel on equal footing in tarkov becuase of it. I just wish boss spawn was 100 percent looool.
I dont have it yet planning on buying it but i think the pve part creates a option for roleplay different loadouts no meta guns etc and u can do more challenge runs without risking much and do fun ideas
I am still all for SPT over PVE because of the mods. If EFT opened single-player up to for modifications I would switch. Quality of life stuff like the little found in raid check having different colors for if you need it for a quest or if it's needed in the hideout. Community changes to AI for PMC movement that's almost not distinguishable from real or not and much more. I am not talking game altering or breaking mods just stuff that makes the game so much better.
I've played a few wiped of pvp, but now switched to pve because of my limited time to play. I'll finally be able to get max traders and late game quests. What i wish is better AI, the pmcs feel like rogus just in different places and dont really go where players would sometimes be
as a new(ish) player this wipe, playing pve at least, the MOST frustrating issue ive had with the game by far, is if i get hit in one of my arms theres what feels like a 50% chance that ALL of the rest of my body parts recieve a random amount of hits from the same shot. i understand it has to do with fragmentation and all that but ive been shot in my arm with one single bullet and that one bullet killed me because it "hit" me 17 times in various parts of my body. thats unfun, unfair, nonsensical, un-gamified and just outright idiotic.
Apparently if your playing in a group in pve and your teamate discards the gear off your body the AI won’t pick up your gear and u guarantee your insurance.
Huge recommendation, Use the Tasmanian tiger backpack (cheap barter), It weighs only 1.004kg for 35 slots over the 42 slots of the raid backpack that weighs 3.5kg or so, At least for heavier raids on something like streets it helps a bit, Labs might be fine since nothing is really heavy there, But just a good idea
Its so hard to want to play when you load into a reserve run to loot the marked rooms and you dont even have a mil worth of loot in 4 trips. Last room was 2 Desert Eagles, MDR and a Mutant. Sick.
Bugs that bothered me: Backend 1000 - player profile data not saved (Raid fully resets, no matter if you extract or die) Fix - You have a cursed item, go into factory with each item to see what's causing the issue. Gunsmith part 25 doesn't unlock PKM Fix - ??? Help please. Character cant do anything but walk and run with no gun Fix - Die or extract Range Finder on gun stops working Fix - Buy a new range finder Compass not working Fix - Dont get lost on woods... idk cant fix that
Great video. You hit every aspect i found the last 3 weeks playing pve. To summarise it... pve is absolutely worth it and almost perfect as it is. There are 3 things they have to improve but that is the same on pvp. 1. Audio (awfull) 2. AI (quota deaths due to op ai and horde modes) 3. Loot (put it back as it was as in january 24) Agreed 100% with you. Get it boys get it... and dont forget... no cheaters ;)
The scavs just run straight at you after you kill one. Like if you stay in a spot more than 2 minutes after you kill a scav you get overwhelmed I killed 32 scavs on customs in one hanger
Biggest problems I have in pve is that the ai is inconsistent with who they're hostile to(especially in scav raids) , ai Pmc with sp6 or spp ammo is too terrifying and getting headshotted by the first round the enemy fires is just not fun.
My buddies and I have been playing PVE for the past two months and honestly it’s been a ton of fun. It’s unfortunate that you don’t have the same amount of dynamic combat without players but I enjoy it anyway. I just wish they made PMCs more dynamic in a sense, perhaps be dressed for certain quests on certain maps and more locations that they might be looting or fighting scavs/bosses at.
My only issue with pve solo is it’s too easy or too hard at times. Like sometimes the ai is just broken and don’t shoot and others they instantly black a limb across the map through 8 bushes. Maps like interchange they’re pmcs are 100% of the time in escalators gets to the point you just learn a route to farm them safely. Etc.
My main issue with pve(apart from it being like 1-2 wipes of me not playing so I'm rusty) is the laser beam like accuracy of the PMCs after their first or so shots- also the sheer AMOUNT of pmc and especially scav spawns. Not sure if the scav amounts are also that high in pvp or not. I have gone through raids where I eventually die and I have killed over a dozen scavs. I do not remember raids like that when I played pvp. Honestly the aim of the ai pmcs seems like it is better than many actual human players-not smarter, but often better aim- and usually more of them in general.
I’ve recently just gotten into the game after the recent wipe, I’ve been juggling PVP and PVE after buying the DLC. I usually go to PVE to learn the maps and the tasks.
the things i miss is the correct balancing. solo pve raids still give me 100% goons spawnrate and prevents me from doing tasks on shoreline. and sometimes ai pmcs are a bit overtuned. and i dont like pmcs sometimes not engaging scavs other than that i like it caus i never really liked the forced wipes. keeping that in mind, i know that i somehow will get the kappa container in pve and reach the end of the line at some point... whether this may be 3 months or 3 years away from today. and the question will be: what to do then? while the pvp section gets its forced wipes every 4-6 months.
I personally, think they need to build in a variation of the AI targeting system. Not just for PvE, but also for PvP. When I first started, I had a buddy take me to Shoreline and Lighthouse, and I was getting lazerbeamed through PLENTY of foliage, that we, as players can't see through, but the AI can. The AI hasn't changed since, there could be 3 AI scavs or PMCs that are staring at me through countless bushes and trees, and they can without issue, kill me. But I can't see them, aside from muzzle flash.
7500+ hours in Tarkov; PVP and then PVE. Played PVE straight through a speed run to Kappa and I love it. I think it's a great edition to the game and community. I still enjoy PVP - I switch back and forth depending on what I want to do or just the vibe. Instead of going into offline to scout locations or test things, I'll just run PVE for a break from PVP and then jump back in to PVP. Switching back and forth is the best way to avoid burnout and toxic cheater fatigue in this game.
Truthfully, i wish that each map had an extra 50% raid time. Especially as a solo player, clearing corners and walking around the whole map due to laser beam ai, it leaves very little time to loot and enjoy my time questing. I am mainly referring to Lighthouse.
The xp glitch happened to me once when I leveled up from lvl 14 to 15. I was excited to have flea open. Come to find out it cheated me out of 9k exp and I was still a lvl 14. Far as the back end error it couldn’t have happened at a worse time. Logged in as a scav spawned w a labs acces card and 35000 rubles. Ran to check for rusted marked key and got it. Did the room and got nice keys like chek 15. Kiba inner etc. all to back end error at the sell all screen and lose everything
I played the "other" tarkov and modded it to enhance gameplay. It was fun at first but got shallow after playing like 400 hrs or something. Yes, PvP isn't fair and has it's fair share of problems but there's something I can't quite press my finger on. I guess it is the thrill or excitement about the unpredictability of the PvP side of things.
The only thing that really bothers me is that PvE doesn't have the new marathon mode. I love the idea of going from map to map I hope they add that soon.
ill say that the main issues i have in pve is some the bosses, i dont want them easier, its just crazy when youre on shoreline near village/cottage area and youre getting laser beamed by goons at weather station...when its full fog out. also tagilla every factory raid is annoying. and partizan is the bane of my existence...but i like him
Regarding the ai beaming you through bushes. I hope they just reprogram the ai to need to see a piece of you the size of your hand before recognizing you as an enemy
I used to have time to keep up with the game in the early wipes, late 2010s era of Tarkov. This update brought me back and I've been enjoying the game for the first time in years. I can enjoy discovering all of BSGs trademarked hidden changes and features at whatever pace I choose. I can rely on a lot of basic knowledge vs. being tuned into the meta to be able to achieve high level progression. PvE has major potential to become its own Tarkov experience, especially if they make it more accessible for newer players. I know people say SPT is good, but supporting BSG is what keeps the game going. That said, I hope BSG spends a lot of time working on this implementation of the mode. It's a diamond in the rough right now. But in concept, PvE is the game mode a lot of people wanted for years. It does split the playerbase but with how good the upper quartile of players have become at progression... it feels like this is a step in the right direction for the game because it will bring back a lot of people. Once I get phenomenal at PvE, I probably will reset or simply play PvP with a lot more confidence.
I enjoy my time on PvE mostly but man they gotta do something about the audio it's so horrible maxed out volume with sonar and comtac 5s can't hear people in the next room. The completely accurate no time delay grenades from AI is disgusting. And the instant beaming to the head from the AI after level 40 is crazy
The stash space bugs are obviously a big issue, BSG charges for stash space, so taking it away via error is definitely problematic. As far as the other issues, my experience has been pretty clean, I did finally get my first spawn where I was instant shot at yesterday, joined the raid with ringing in my ears but it was from a ricochet with the Boss guards fighting other AI PMCs, so not even actually shooting at me. Beyond that though, I have really been enjoying the mode, I had previously gotten Kappa in PVP and then skipped a few wipes while the net code and cheaters made the experience too frustrating. With the game hosted on my own equipment, things run much smoother and I get to enjoy the core gameplay as I prefer it, Tarkov is back on the menu for me with this game mode and I would highly recommend it to anyone looking to start out, or get back in if they had previously been frustrated.
my only issue is the goons, i seem to always have them on lighthouse still and ofc because they dont see the AI PMC's as enemies they just hunt you and start beaming you from 100m that is my main issue, other than that i play this because i can play in my own time chilling, the goons also dont seem to be roaming between maps, i seem to find them in lighthouse and in customs frequenly most raids
I play a lot of pve, only because the amount i work prevents me from slaving away at the game and puts me far behind 2 weeks into a fresh wipe. Pve not as competitive, but questing is still just as fun
The biggest problem with solo pve is hands down the goons. They spawn almost every raid often in areas where you need to do a quest. Makes progress more like hitting your head against a brick wall.
Loving PvE mode, I'm farther than I ever have been. I don't have to worry about other players that have thousands of hours on me. The only thing I have a problem with is boss spawn rate, I can't go to lighthouse without running into the goons, or any other map that has bosses.
Honestly, I have only played PVE as a family man who can only play a couple of hours with a buddie a week. I tried PvP twice this wipe and once I spawned in and died after taking one step, and another time killed by a speed hacker. The only real annoying thing I’ve experienced (aside from backend errors which happen in both game modes) is being beamed from a cluster of bushes from 200+ meters away. Aka, visual screens/blockage for ai being nonexistent. That has also been a problem since I started playing tarkov 3 years ago. All in all, I much prefer playing the game as it should be played in PvE. It is weird that ai PMCs are never really “migrating” to their extraction, or level 1 ai have BP rounds and class 6 armor.
Former pvp Chad here. Had some new friends wanting to try tarkov. So we dipped our toes into the pve mode first so I could teach them the game. As someone who never had access to it from the start. It's probably the best thing they've ever added to the game. The game is still intense enough that everyone has fun and i can teach them the maps without getting dumpstered on repeat. They've all learned a good majority of the maps outside of a few and know where to extract as well as make some money. They're all quite interested in the actual pvp servers now. IF bsg can buckle down on the cheaters. They'd have a lottt more new people wanting to branch out of pve.
400+ hours of PvP made me label this game Anxiety Simulator 2023. Since PvE, the only person to blame for dying is myself, and the game is a lot more relaxed because of it. This isn't to say it can't be spicy - my PB's thus far are killing 6 PMC's in under 2 minutes (I thought there was 5, turns out no 2 squads not one so PMC#7 clapped my ass) and I've killed 9 scavs in 61 seconds for the finale of a 42-kill Interchange extract. The Goon spawns are a bit too often, and the AI needs more kit variety and to wander a bit more, but otherwise I'm thoroughly enjoying it.
For the most part PVE has been fun. But when you get your first few quests on Shoreline it becomes unplayable. The Goons literally kill me at spawn within seconds of spawning in. Idk what their spawn rate is but im frustrated on not being able to progress at all. I doubt bsg even gives a crap lol
I have determined that if you do not want AI to take your buddy/AI gear you can just discard it all on the ground. I do this when I have several AI I have to loot and don't want scavs taking the stuff lol.
It is grate and fun but PMC AI is to laser precise 1-2 and insta kill some time 300m away and laser tracking your movement no matter where you move AI kip tracking you no matter what
My biggest issue with PvE is and always has been the PMC ai, They are just repainted Raiders.. No unique voicelines, No targeting bosses or other scavs (Although i think now they sometimes fight scavs) They all bunch up in groups?! And they dont seem to head to PMC extracts especially on reserve?
Aim wise I think the AI is in a good spot, but movement, placement (camping) and pathing, I personally hope they improve. I saw a mod in SPT that made AI actually move somewhat like a player, I do hope they integrate something like that in the game. In PVE, after a number of raids, you’ll know where the AI PMC usually goes and I do find it a bit too predictable.
i think itd be super cool if ai, had a bunch of levels of difficulty, but give the player that info in a natural way. if its a juiced up super accurate op pmc ai that has meta guns, then make him look like it so we can determine hes dangerous. give him the bigggest backpack, better gear, better accuracy, etc. but if its a pmc that will stand there and look around trying to find targets and not do much, make him look like a timmy. BUT it could go a step further and even make it harder by the pmc's switching their gear mid raid, so a juiced up looking guy has a chance to be a trash ai that found ggear. but not the other way around.
I had issues with my game freezing every 2 mins in raid on pve and PvP. I’m currently having an issue where I’m doing an animation forever and it doesn’t stop no matter what I do
I unfortunately have the XP bug and have tried everything to fix it. But unfortunately when I get out of raid I see the XP on the slider bar. Go to my stats in the stash and the XP is gone. I restart the game and have even tried going into another raid to see if it’ll update but no luck.
PMC should have better gear for us to loot them after we take them down. And PMC should not Team up with other AI characters (scavs and even guard/boss) to kill us, thats ridiculous… its like its everyone vs you. But I believe that they are improving that
I admit, I'm a bit of a shitter and I'm not very good at pvp, I don't have much time to dump into practicing pvp, maps, spawns, all that stuff. I work lime 40 hours a week and between my fiancé, work, and school I only have a few hours a night to play and it's only once every few days. It's nice not having to compete with mega sweats, it's also so much fun to just learn maps, for the longest time before pve I never touched labs or streets but now I'm learning them fairly well, my biggest issue is the goons, like all the other bosses are fine but good god it was impossible getting signal started for mechanic until they changed the goons spawns
Unless you are a UA-camr, Streamer, or have 40hrs a week to play. PVE is significantly better. Have a buddy or two to play with, lots of fun and NO cheaters, NO loot vacuums, and NO wiping. I like Tarkov it has a great environment, cool maps, awesome guns and gear, and lots of stuff to grind and work towards. Dying to ChowMein1293 on Labs flying through the walls and losing all my gear is not fun, anyone still playing PVP is a little unhinged and must like pain.
Idk man pve doesn't give me the rush like pvp does
Be a man. Play both.
100% agree. Completely gave up on LEARNING Tarkov, because going up against ultra chads or player scavs that would kill me just made it impossible to stay alive long enough to learn. Been playing PVE for a week or two and I have confidently learned the Ground Zero map and Customs, so it was well worth it. Still dying a lot, but learning from those mistakes.
Still hate how cheater can affect the flea market on pve
@@SenorScholls22 this is what I personally have arena for or other pvp games like hunt showdown where losing my gear doesnt set me back so much
as someone who started off with pvp, i've fully switched to pve and have been having a blast. either solo or with friends, it's very fun and i totally recommend it!
Same, it sometimes it get harder than PvP just having the AI PMCs and Raiders mow you down instantly. And still calling them hackers lol
@@Bers3rk_tvTbh the ai is stupid rn 😅
Scavs shoot me from wayyyy too far and pmcs have no recoil and are just mini bosses, im not the best at the game but im good enough to know that the pmc and scav ai need a small tweek 😅
@@LuxTheFolfthey are still stupid. The scavs arnt bad once you get better armor but a guy gave me lvl 6 plates, a lvl 4 helm and a skull mask but i still constantly get arm pitted even
For me, the draw to PvE was almost entirely because of the lack of wipes. There are the added benefits of no cheaters and no queue times for solo raids, but as someone who has very limited time to play, being able to play at my own pace is wonderful.
Same here, knowing that i’ll not be able to get kappa, visit the lighthouse keeper, diminished the motivation to play.
I have thousands of hours in PVP. Kappa multiple times. Lightkeeper too. But I agree. WIPES SUX. They are commercial oriented, just for the hype and to streamers rush in 3 weeks. Funny how they wanna a wipe, and not wipe their account, so they can upload a video with 8 timmy kills on customs on week 1, after being lvl 42+ while normal people are at lvl 8.
@@krisztiantakacs7535Discalmer!
LK DOESN'T WORK IN PVE YET!
His tasks don't give you any of the items it should give, it doesn't give anything 😅
I play duo with a friend and we now are at a point where we get quests we have never seen before. Played like 6-7 wipes but never got this far. Maybe at some point it gets stale and we want to get some PvP action again but for now it's pretty nice progressing that far with almost no setbacks.
PVE is fun and refreshing but it needs more events and even map modifiers on certain maps to spice things up. If they had a map modifier that cycled every couple hours that changed things on maps like boss spawns and the amount of loot it would make PVE waaaay more enjoyable.
Big on changing the Goon spawn rate. Shoreline questing on some days is almost unplayable.
Marathon mode would be pretty interesting in PVE, I know my buddy would love to spend a couple hours trekking from ground zero to shoreline
5% spawn chance for the goons is complete bs. they are in 7/10 shoreline raids for me. I was running past weather station last night (mind you I was a good 200+ meters away) when they aggrod on me, and the maniacs followed me all the way to health resort where I killed Big Pipe and Knight, but the third was nowhere to be found. Never seen them follow like that, and shoreline is my main map.
@@ConfusedGrandpathey have a 40% on all of their maps. There’s no goon map rotation like pvp tarkov
@@iceveracity8221 there is IF you are playing with friends and on BSG servers. Otherwise in Local raids yes, the spawn chance is insane
I played through 2 wipes in PvP, one to learn the game and one to hopefully experience the whole game. I was probably the WORST tarkov player on the planet so needless to say I never got to level 30 on the second wipe cause I died so often and gave up alot. PvE has made the game so much more fun, I get to experience the META guns, maxed traders, maxed hideout, fighting bosses, etc. It is much much more fun for me.
Didn’t lvndmark go to pve
Quite literally all they need to do to make it more enjoyable is reduce NPC accuracy through bushes etc. I don't like being beamed by someone who I couldn't see and who couldn't see me if it was on a pvp server
They really need to take a deep look to see how SPT plugin implement their AI...
Or just let us mod PvE as they said they would
I think pve is gonna be take on by the community in a certain measure with mods in the future. nikitta don''tt like the pve mode and saaid he will not made a lot for it
My biggest con with PvE is that it feels like you're fighting the entire map. PMC vs scav battles are inconsistent, sometimes they fight and sometimes they gather together. PMC's also rarely engage each other. The maps are often dead quiet outside of your own firefights
Wait, I thought that PMC didn't fight each other at all.
@@zyygis from what ive seen its faction based, usecs and bears will go ham on eachother. but otherwise if usec meets usec they buddies
True, I've never seen PMC's and scavs fight eachother. It also seems all the PMC's team up and sit and wait in weird spots.
Just had my first PMC squad with english speaking bears and usecs, i think they’re silently updating PVE
PVE is awesome.Some things I think need work.
1. Tune down the aimbot scavs, getting insta tapped by a silent scav in a bush sucks.
2. Make a difficulty selection, such as easy, normal, hard, and hardcore. Along with different rewards for harder settings.
3. Would be nice to access Ref in pve, and have the new keys and rewards available.
fully switched to PVE.I typically only play on Friday nights and Saturdays. I may be able to hop on and knock out a quest on another day but this significantly helps people enjoy tarkov without the stress of falling behind because you don't have to keep up.
infinite AI scav spawns, PMCS are always in a group of max 5 and aimbotting through bushes sometimes even containers
goons spawning every god damn raid...
bosses feel like 100% spawn
they see 1 pixel of you and instant game over
pmcs dont loot and always have the same kits
all AI gets stuck every time..
some quests are impossible to do because AI very rarely go there, example the quest "huntsman path secured perimeter"
game feels like you are "hunted" by AI meaning they rush you out of nowhere sometimes scavs and pmc on woods for example, was going to loot bunker and i got rushed by 2 pmcs
thats all i can think of right now..
THIS!!!
Man, seems like we're playing two different games... I rarely get bosses to spawn (trying for the 20 shtruman kills) and Goons I avoid with the Goons tracker. The Secured perimeter I got done in two raids recently. The AI aim bot is a pain - especially the scavs for me. The PMC's are annoying but if you break LOS and don't repeak the same angle (or jus slow lean right hand peak) they won't shoot back. I honestly love the infinite scav spawns and the AI being aggressive towards me as it feels more like regular tarkov... but then again, I came from over 1000 hours in PVP. i've seen PMC's looting recently too... mostly trash but I've pulled LedX, GPU, and some good stims off of them.
Some bosses feel like a 100% spawn for me the goons is one of em the one who bearly spawns is reshala
lol i got that quest done in 2 raids 93% survival rating on pve with almost 400 raids maybe its just you are bad at the game
Take the 3 minutes it takes and download Spt and play it. You can mod it easily as copy pasting files and have Tarkov be tweaked to your hearts desire. Or you can seeth and mald at devs who don’t care and won’t implement features you can easily mod yourself in.
Personal take: started back in Wipe .12. I was in college full time and everyone knows you have way more time (generally) to play during those years. Now I’m 5+ years in the workforce. I work 45-60 hours a week to pay bills, then have to maintain my place, chores, have a gf now which I didn’t back in college. If I have to schedule time with friends weeks or even months in advance then it’s safe to say it’s hard to find time to game anymore. PvE and no wipes let’s me play this game both a little more relaxed and at a pace where I don’t feel like I’m falling behind the sweats or at the very least the majority of folks grinding. I really feel for the folks who have kids/family they have to take care of.
As a multiwipe pvp guy, I think it’s a great addition to the game. I still enjoy pvp. But with pve, I may get to see kappa again and even see lightkeeper for the first time. Plus it’s easier to convince my friends to play who are more casual and are just getting into it. The cheaters grinding out maps like labs, Reserve and Shoreline (some of my fav maps) in pvp also kinda discourage me from playing PvP regularly. But hey as we’ve all said for years: “Welcome to Tarkov”
i love pve but goons dont let me do my quests. To big spawn % for goons
Just keep doing them. Took me about 15 raids to get Signal part 1 done. You will eventually not have them spawn.
Learn how to avoid them. Learn how to fight them.
We only see them once in a while 😅
I found grenades a god send in figure if goons are in. I throw one in the likely areas for them and of i hear their voice line i bounce lol
Good tip, Hold the corners of anything you can as much as you can, They literally stop working if you fight them on a corner of a room or inside a building as they usually need to crouch before shooting you it gives you like 1s to shoot them freely each time
What makes PvE interesting for me is the fact that there are no exit campers or bush campers.
I just hit level 69 in pve and I realised maybe I would like some feature to reset my quest line, leaving my levels and money alone. :D but that is QoL dream. I need so much Experience to gain levels now that when I finish my questline (almost there) - I could reboot the whole thing for practise and fun.
what bugs me is its missing Ref and Marathon/linked maps. Has some of the marathon quest stuff. Marking the exits etc but not ability to use linked paths.
In Regards to Kappa. I was in the category, until I realized they hid Kappa behind Test Drive Part 2-5 now instead of just Part 1. It's absolutely terrible, but it is what it is.
Speed ran Kappa with a pal when PVE came out. Was really difficult with the shorter raid times; but, was good to get it done before the AI and quest changes
@@BobGrayTdC yeah I finished shooter born like 1 day after the patch and then did all the factory quests and then was confused to why Kappa didn’t show up. Then we found it was behind Test Drive. It’s been absolutely miserable. Made me stop playing for the last week tbh.
@@HeXiiK_TTV Test Drive in PVP isn't bad -- until Test Drive Part 3 or 4 -- the AK 12 kills on Lighthouse kinda suck; still haven't cared to do that because it wasn't required. I have a total of 3 or 4 quests remaining (all having to-do with cultists because they are miserable to hunt right now). I'm PVEmeBroGG in-game (for now). give me a shout we can run
@@BobGrayTdC My computer is so butt that I get like 25-30fps on streets so I’m just struggling on streets to get the 20 pmcs on there with the SR-2M. I got 8 so far through like 4 raids, which ain’t bad but good lord the performance man. So miserable. I play Lighthouse a lot, which is kind of psycho, but I like the map on PvE. Not looking forward to the RPD on shoreline, not gonna lie lol. Yeah I’ll hit you up once I come back to the game. Needed a break cuz I was baby raging at that change a little bit lol
Wait are you serious? I had checked my quests multiple times and test drive 2 wasnt a requirement so the wiki must have been updated only recently. I am so mad now because this is the only reason I didnt get kappa xD I wasnt bothering doing these as it wasnt required. Thank you for this comment, I know what to grind out now..
i play PVE 100% now. they update it pretty hard.
Yesterday i got ambushed by 3 PMC-s that were camping in dorms Restroom, dont ask, i didnt know they can even do that
The beaming through bushes/windows you cant look through is the most annoying part about the AI, also that they start lasering you from 200m away while you are scanning an area
I got back into Tarkov because I work too much and PVE makes it a lot easier for me to get in. The biggest thing I would complain about is it’s very hard for me to tell the difference between Scavs and PMCs while playing a scav. Unless you catch them where they call out before the engagement, I’ve literally sat there looking at the guy for minutes trying to determine whether I should kill them or not then they turn around and just shoot me in the face.
Going into pve after 2 wipes where learning the game was super hampered by players who knew spawns, scavs blasting me through foliage and tiny pixels in the environment, and my lack of map knowledge: I appreciate this mode. Not needing to worry about giga PMCs and cheaters every single time I raid on my PMC is a huge value add to this game
Yeah tarkov players definition of "Relax" Differ quite significantly what relax really is I really jump in to this game once difficulty options will be available to adjust 6:49
As a casual I love PVE, only issues I have found is 1- rogues and PMC’s demolishing class 6 plates with terrible ammo (eg. 5.56x45 HP) 2- PMC’s and scavs literally hanging out together and pressing you together. Other than that it is a lot of fun to play around with and when you don’t have tons of time knowing that you have the ability to still play through the quest line without worrying about a wipe until you want to is great
I came back to Tarkov because the PVE mode and also got my friends to buy the PVE mode. Otherwise I wouldn’t have the time to experience Tarkov the way I want, because you have to keep up with everyone else.
Now I can enjoy the looting, building guns and upgrade the hideout. This somehow is the neat part of Tarkov of me. The Ai can’t cheat, but will headshot you easy if you are incautious.
I played Tarkov first, and I fell completely in love, even with my 30% survival rate. But I found the only thing I liked as much was stuff like Metro, Stalker, and even Zero Sievert. PvE gives me experiences like that but with added co-op and that really scratches an itch for me. I can make Tarkov what I want and don't have to worry about meta.
Been an EFT player since 2018, but I've found so little time to play it (only up to level 35 3 years ago). With so little time to play and all those chads, tryhards, and cheaters, it's given me so much PTSD. This is a good way to experience it while having the fun and excitement the game offers (minus the bosses, especially Partisan, giving me headache when playing solo).
In the past 2 weeks I progressed further in PVE then I ever have in any wipe in PVP.
Ive done things and have seen sides of tarkov I havent seen before because I can play the game in an environment that lets me play it at my pace.
Not getting killed by chads and cheaters in every third raid.
It still has bugs and other issues but I never had this much fun in Tarkov before.
PvE is why I eventually relented to play Tarkov. I used to be really good at shooter games, but that was 20 years ago, in the CS 1.5 era. Now, I'm pushing 40, my reflexes are shot and I don't have the time or the patience to try and keep up with the kids.
PvE offered the fun of Tarkov without all the cheaters, tryhards and no-lifers that just take all the fun out of the game. Now, I get to play co-op with my friends and progress at my own pace without worrying about wipes and keeping up with the meta.
Sure, the AI has it's own problems, but at least those are consistent. I understand this consistency is what turns a lot of people off from PvE, since after you get used to the AI's behavior, the enemies become quite predictable, and boring for some people. To me, it's great! I can get into raids on different maps and know exactly what to expect, there are no cheaters flying through walls, no tryhards camping in corners and no 16 year-old Mr_360nOsCoPe braining me from the other side of the map as soon as I spawn in. I know there are people who want more of a challenge than this, but when you only get a couple hours to play every day, you appreciate consistency in games like these.
As for the bugs, well, there are plenty of them, but so far I haven't experienced anything really game-breaking or something that set my progress back for days or weeks, so I'm glad. I know Nikita, the main dev openly said he hates the PvE mode and wishes that everyone would just play PvP, and I understand that was and always will be the intended experience of Tarkov, but I'm never going to play that. If they take away PvE, I guess that's when I stop playing.
Only pve complaint is if you try to remove a Lazer or sight from a pmc gun every once in a while you'll get a white block in the center of your screen.
This is a PvP issue too, my buddy and I had the same thing happen
I've got it a few times trying to move a dead pmc's bag.
That happens if you drag and drop loot. Try using the "Ctrl" + "LMB" or "L Alt" + "LMB"method instead
PVE has become one of the things my friends and I absolutely love. It lets us have the fun of tarkov without the stress of randomly dying to other players. The biggest issue for me is the bosses/scavs and players not always fighting especially the Goons. The Goons should be fighting the other PVE Players. Other than that and randomly being head, Jaws killed we love PVE.
I really enjoy pve. Im fairly new to the game and its just an easier way to learn the game. Tasks maps etc. The only main complaints I have is boss spawn rate and insane pmc aimbot. Some maps with bushes or hard to see sightlines are unbearable. Pmcs at range if the agro at you its almost always resulting in a death. If you peak your head just to slow peak an angle almost always death at certain locations. Thats my main complaint is not being able to learn the parts of the maps that pmcs always spawn at over fear of death. But thats just me a new player whos still trying to figure out the best post fx settings to accuratly see those aimbotting freaks.
I agree with everything you said I would also like abit more time in the raids as I do take quite a lot of time to figure stuff out
If you compare with spt the Pmc are dumb dumb.
Just don’t peak the same spot bro…
Thats fine youre learning. If I may offer advice, never slow peek, always quick peek using Q and E so they dont have time to aggro. If anything is pushing you its best to hold a right side peek if you can, due to peakers advantage (you see enemy sooner than they see you). Aim for headshots as much as possible, but that will take time if youre not used to tarkov aim. With enough practice you will know how to fight PMCs and boss guards and various bosses. Also keep in mind which ammo youre using, if you open the ammo type, you have this armor effectivenes field where it tells you what armor lvl its good against. If your ammo is mostly flesh damage ammo with no penetration then aim for legs and arms or stomach as PMCs usually have thorax covered in armor. Also my post fx are color grading jason and only sliders I changed are brightness at 40 and saturation at 40. Give it a try if you want to, see if that works
To help what ive noticed is they seem to get more accurate the longer they have a sightline on you. Always stick to cover and dont peek the same angles if you can help it. Maneuvering is your best asset against them.
@mipi12323 that's not speakers advantage. speakers advantage is the person pushing has advantage because of the way ping works. aggressive players who swing get peakers advantage on people holding.
None of these complaints come anywhere close to how NEEDED an audio fix is. It is absolute trash, and i dont understand how they havent neglected new content for an update to just fix the shit. Its insane to me
I tried to get into Tarkov a couple years ago but simply didn’t have the time to get into it because I kept getting murdered brutally over and over again and only had time to play a raid, maybe 2 a day. PVE is exactly what people like me need to fully enjoy this game. Been playing it a few months now and have had so much fun! I was actually able to learn the maps and get tasks done with friends. I feel like the PVE mode is an awesome stepping stone for new players to learn the game so they can then move onto PVP when they are ready!
I would like to see tunable options for raids, having the Goons spawn Lighthouse every other time I run a raid is annoying when I’m trying to just get tasks done, my PvE experience was so smooth until I had to start Lighthouse tasking, then it’s 4-5 raids in a row of just dying to bs
if youre struggling to take on the goons, as soon as they agro you, try running off into a comfortable position, preferably a building, all 3 of them will chase and youll have an easier time killing them while they phase through a door trying to open it. Make sure to bring a full auto weapon and aim for head while they bug into doors. This method allows you to kill bird eye much easier than simply looking for his bush camping ass.
@@moon.1311 It’s not so much that I struggle with them, 8/10 times I get all three relatively easily, it’s the fight with the Rogues afterwards, they come running up from every angle once the Goons start eating my bullets 😭
Once you get SPTarkov installed and proper mods put in it you realize just how bad BSGs PvE mode actually is. Hopefully they can work together one day
I started tarkov about 2 weeks ago. got rekt trying to unlock ref so I started playing the pve mode in between scav runs.
Once I hit lvl 15 and get far in quests I will probably go back to pvp, but I agree that pve feels like a long tutorial for pvp. I have learned a few maps, a lot of keybinds, the stash system, and generally how to build a gun.
To the dummy strong AI notes. Since I as a fool decided to work on the goons as my first boss, I appreciate getting lasered because its def gonna happen in pvp. Some dudes are just that good and it has taught me to keep my head down in the crackhouse, peek corners in dorms, and listen real close in interchange
Me and my friends started with PVP, and it wasn't as much fun as PvE. Having to deal with wipes, cheaters and how much we work. It just wasn't fun. But PvE brought us back and we are having a blast. It reignited our love for tarkov
I hope that the pve player base is large enough and vocal enough to be taken seriously by the devs and have some of the modes glaring issues addressed
+1.. Atm we're kinda 2nd class citizens in the game, a bit like Q&A - un[der]paid and generally ignored.
Funny you think the devs care 😅
I love pve, I can expereince tarkov at my own pace and time and never have to worry about wipe. Also its easyoer than pvp in some ways. I have a hearing loss in both ears. And pve is the only way i feel on equal footing in tarkov becuase of it. I just wish boss spawn was 100 percent looool.
I dont have it yet planning on buying it but i think the pve part creates a option for roleplay different loadouts no meta guns etc and u can do more challenge runs without risking much and do fun ideas
The average AI scav has better aim than the average human player
I am still all for SPT over PVE because of the mods. If EFT opened single-player up to for modifications I would switch. Quality of life stuff like the little found in raid check having different colors for if you need it for a quest or if it's needed in the hideout. Community changes to AI for PMC movement that's almost not distinguishable from real or not and much more. I am not talking game altering or breaking mods just stuff that makes the game so much better.
I've played a few wiped of pvp, but now switched to pve because of my limited time to play. I'll finally be able to get max traders and late game quests. What i wish is better AI, the pmcs feel like rogus just in different places and dont really go where players would sometimes be
as a new(ish) player this wipe, playing pve at least, the MOST frustrating issue ive had with the game by far, is if i get hit in one of my arms theres what feels like a 50% chance that ALL of the rest of my body parts recieve a random amount of hits from the same shot. i understand it has to do with fragmentation and all that but ive been shot in my arm with one single bullet and that one bullet killed me because it "hit" me 17 times in various parts of my body. thats unfun, unfair, nonsensical, un-gamified and just outright idiotic.
Apparently if your playing in a group in pve and your teamate discards the gear off your body the AI won’t pick up your gear and u guarantee your insurance.
Huge recommendation, Use the Tasmanian tiger backpack (cheap barter), It weighs only 1.004kg for 35 slots over the 42 slots of the raid backpack that weighs 3.5kg or so, At least for heavier raids on something like streets it helps a bit, Labs might be fine since nothing is really heavy there, But just a good idea
My only gripe with PVE mode is getting one tapped in the thorax through class 6 by warmage.
Its so hard to want to play when you load into a reserve run to loot the marked rooms and you dont even have a mil worth of loot in 4 trips. Last room was 2 Desert Eagles, MDR and a Mutant. Sick.
Bugs that bothered me:
Backend 1000 - player profile data not saved (Raid fully resets, no matter if you extract or die)
Fix - You have a cursed item, go into factory with each item to see what's causing the issue.
Gunsmith part 25 doesn't unlock PKM
Fix - ??? Help please.
Character cant do anything but walk and run with no gun
Fix - Die or extract
Range Finder on gun stops working
Fix - Buy a new range finder
Compass not working
Fix - Dont get lost on woods... idk cant fix that
Great video. You hit every aspect i found the last 3 weeks playing pve.
To summarise it... pve is absolutely worth it and almost perfect as it is. There are 3 things they have to improve but that is the same on pvp.
1. Audio (awfull)
2. AI (quota deaths due to op ai and horde modes)
3. Loot (put it back as it was as in january 24)
Agreed 100% with you. Get it boys get it... and dont forget... no cheaters ;)
The scavs just run straight at you after you kill one. Like if you stay in a spot more than 2 minutes after you kill a scav you get overwhelmed
I killed 32 scavs on customs in one hanger
Biggest problems I have in pve is that the ai is inconsistent with who they're hostile to(especially in scav raids) , ai Pmc with sp6 or spp ammo is too terrifying and getting headshotted by the first round the enemy fires is just not fun.
My buddies and I have been playing PVE for the past two months and honestly it’s been a ton of fun. It’s unfortunate that you don’t have the same amount of dynamic combat without players but I enjoy it anyway. I just wish they made PMCs more dynamic in a sense, perhaps be dressed for certain quests on certain maps and more locations that they might be looting or fighting scavs/bosses at.
My only issue with pve solo is it’s too easy or too hard at times. Like sometimes the ai is just broken and don’t shoot and others they instantly black a limb across the map through 8 bushes. Maps like interchange they’re pmcs are 100% of the time in escalators gets to the point you just learn a route to farm them safely. Etc.
My main issue with pve(apart from it being like 1-2 wipes of me not playing so I'm rusty) is the laser beam like accuracy of the PMCs after their first or so shots- also the sheer AMOUNT of pmc and especially scav spawns. Not sure if the scav amounts are also that high in pvp or not.
I have gone through raids where I eventually die and I have killed over a dozen scavs. I do not remember raids like that when I played pvp. Honestly the aim of the ai pmcs seems like it is better than many actual human players-not smarter, but often better aim- and usually more of them in general.
I’ve recently just gotten into the game after the recent wipe, I’ve been juggling PVP and PVE after buying the DLC. I usually go to PVE to learn the maps and the tasks.
the things i miss is the correct balancing. solo pve raids still give me 100% goons spawnrate and prevents me from doing tasks on shoreline. and sometimes ai pmcs are a bit overtuned. and i dont like pmcs sometimes not engaging scavs
other than that i like it caus i never really liked the forced wipes. keeping that in mind, i know that i somehow will get the kappa container in pve and reach the end of the line at some point... whether this may be 3 months or 3 years away from today. and the question will be: what to do then? while the pvp section gets its forced wipes every 4-6 months.
I personally, think they need to build in a variation of the AI targeting system. Not just for PvE, but also for PvP. When I first started, I had a buddy take me to Shoreline and Lighthouse, and I was getting lazerbeamed through PLENTY of foliage, that we, as players can't see through, but the AI can. The AI hasn't changed since, there could be 3 AI scavs or PMCs that are staring at me through countless bushes and trees, and they can without issue, kill me. But I can't see them, aside from muzzle flash.
7500+ hours in Tarkov; PVP and then PVE. Played PVE straight through a speed run to Kappa and I love it. I think it's a great edition to the game and community. I still enjoy PVP - I switch back and forth depending on what I want to do or just the vibe. Instead of going into offline to scout locations or test things, I'll just run PVE for a break from PVP and then jump back in to PVP.
Switching back and forth is the best way to avoid burnout and toxic cheater fatigue in this game.
Truthfully, i wish that each map had an extra 50% raid time. Especially as a solo player, clearing corners and walking around the whole map due to laser beam ai, it leaves very little time to loot and enjoy my time questing. I am mainly referring to Lighthouse.
The xp glitch happened to me once when I leveled up from lvl 14 to 15. I was excited to have flea open. Come to find out it cheated me out of 9k exp and I was still a lvl 14. Far as the back end error it couldn’t have happened at a worse time. Logged in as a scav spawned w a labs acces card and 35000 rubles. Ran to check for rusted marked key and got it. Did the room and got nice keys like chek 15. Kiba inner etc. all to back end error at the sell all screen and lose everything
I played the "other" tarkov and modded it to enhance gameplay. It was fun at first but got shallow after playing like 400 hrs or something. Yes, PvP isn't fair and has it's fair share of problems but there's something I can't quite press my finger on. I guess it is the thrill or excitement about the unpredictability of the PvP side of things.
The only thing that really bothers me is that PvE doesn't have the new marathon mode. I love the idea of going from map to map I hope they add that soon.
ill say that the main issues i have in pve is some the bosses, i dont want them easier, its just crazy when youre on shoreline near village/cottage area and youre getting laser beamed by goons at weather station...when its full fog out.
also tagilla every factory raid is annoying.
and partizan is the bane of my existence...but i like him
Regarding the ai beaming you through bushes. I hope they just reprogram the ai to need to see a piece of you the size of your hand before recognizing you as an enemy
I used to have time to keep up with the game in the early wipes, late 2010s era of Tarkov. This update brought me back and I've been enjoying the game for the first time in years.
I can enjoy discovering all of BSGs trademarked hidden changes and features at whatever pace I choose. I can rely on a lot of basic knowledge vs. being tuned into the meta to be able to achieve high level progression.
PvE has major potential to become its own Tarkov experience, especially if they make it more accessible for newer players. I know people say SPT is good, but supporting BSG is what keeps the game going. That said, I hope BSG spends a lot of time working on this implementation of the mode. It's a diamond in the rough right now. But in concept, PvE is the game mode a lot of people wanted for years. It does split the playerbase but with how good the upper quartile of players have become at progression... it feels like this is a step in the right direction for the game because it will bring back a lot of people. Once I get phenomenal at PvE, I probably will reset or simply play PvP with a lot more confidence.
Only thing i hate is doing a scav run and PMCs laser focusing you and ignoring everything else.
I enjoy my time on PvE mostly but man they gotta do something about the audio it's so horrible maxed out volume with sonar and comtac 5s can't hear people in the next room. The completely accurate no time delay grenades from AI is disgusting. And the instant beaming to the head from the AI after level 40 is crazy
The stash space bugs are obviously a big issue, BSG charges for stash space, so taking it away via error is definitely problematic. As far as the other issues, my experience has been pretty clean, I did finally get my first spawn where I was instant shot at yesterday, joined the raid with ringing in my ears but it was from a ricochet with the Boss guards fighting other AI PMCs, so not even actually shooting at me. Beyond that though, I have really been enjoying the mode, I had previously gotten Kappa in PVP and then skipped a few wipes while the net code and cheaters made the experience too frustrating. With the game hosted on my own equipment, things run much smoother and I get to enjoy the core gameplay as I prefer it, Tarkov is back on the menu for me with this game mode and I would highly recommend it to anyone looking to start out, or get back in if they had previously been frustrated.
my only issue is the goons, i seem to always have them on lighthouse still and ofc because they dont see the AI PMC's as enemies they just hunt you and start beaming you from 100m that is my main issue, other than that i play this because i can play in my own time chilling, the goons also dont seem to be roaming between maps, i seem to find them in lighthouse and in customs frequenly most raids
I play a lot of pve, only because the amount i work prevents me from slaving away at the game and puts me far behind 2 weeks into a fresh wipe. Pve not as competitive, but questing is still just as fun
I'm liking being able to acctually acsess end game content
Tbh it’s not so different sometimes like you can get straight deleted from either pvp or PVE cheaters or not
I thought I would never get back into tarkov but now I pretty much exclusively play pve mode alone and with buddies
They need to make the bosses more consistent. Sometimes I get drilled by a boss or sometimes they just run right up to me
Not getting rep for your scav killing ai thats killed other scavs is also bugged. Its alot harder to get the rep to over 6.
As a Blue Collar working man, I like PVE. I've played 4 wipes all to around level 40. Never had enough time, pve fixes that
The biggest problem with solo pve is hands down the goons. They spawn almost every raid often in areas where you need to do a quest. Makes progress more like hitting your head against a brick wall.
Loving PvE mode, I'm farther than I ever have been. I don't have to worry about other players that have thousands of hours on me. The only thing I have a problem with is boss spawn rate, I can't go to lighthouse without running into the goons, or any other map that has bosses.
I've stopped playing PVE, but when I did, I was most frustrated with dying to invisible scavs on streets. Did they ever fix that?
Honestly, I have only played PVE as a family man who can only play a couple of hours with a buddie a week. I tried PvP twice this wipe and once I spawned in and died after taking one step, and another time killed by a speed hacker. The only real annoying thing I’ve experienced (aside from backend errors which happen in both game modes) is being beamed from a cluster of bushes from 200+ meters away. Aka, visual screens/blockage for ai being nonexistent. That has also been a problem since I started playing tarkov 3 years ago. All in all, I much prefer playing the game as it should be played in PvE. It is weird that ai PMCs are never really “migrating” to their extraction, or level 1 ai have BP rounds and class 6 armor.
Former pvp Chad here. Had some new friends wanting to try tarkov. So we dipped our toes into the pve mode first so I could teach them the game. As someone who never had access to it from the start. It's probably the best thing they've ever added to the game. The game is still intense enough that everyone has fun and i can teach them the maps without getting dumpstered on repeat. They've all learned a good majority of the maps outside of a few and know where to extract as well as make some money. They're all quite interested in the actual pvp servers now. IF bsg can buckle down on the cheaters. They'd have a lottt more new people wanting to branch out of pve.
400+ hours of PvP made me label this game Anxiety Simulator 2023. Since PvE, the only person to blame for dying is myself, and the game is a lot more relaxed because of it. This isn't to say it can't be spicy - my PB's thus far are killing 6 PMC's in under 2 minutes (I thought there was 5, turns out no 2 squads not one so PMC#7 clapped my ass) and I've killed 9 scavs in 61 seconds for the finale of a 42-kill Interchange extract. The Goon spawns are a bit too often, and the AI needs more kit variety and to wander a bit more, but otherwise I'm thoroughly enjoying it.
For the most part PVE has been fun. But when you get your first few quests on Shoreline it becomes unplayable. The Goons literally kill me at spawn within seconds of spawning in. Idk what their spawn rate is but im frustrated on not being able to progress at all. I doubt bsg even gives a crap lol
I wonder what the statistics of player count is. Preferably pvp main vs pve mains. I know a lot of people that play both
Me and the AI PMC staring at each other in dorms for 5 minutes waiting for the other person to make a move before getting one tapped by a toz scav 💀
I haven't been able to complete a pmc raid in 8 days, but can complete scav runs on all maps. 1000- backend error
I have determined that if you do not want AI to take your buddy/AI gear you can just discard it all on the ground. I do this when I have several AI I have to loot and don't want scavs taking the stuff lol.
I started in 2021 with pvp of course and after so long it just feels refreshing not to have to worry about cheaters or rats pve is very fun to me
It is grate and fun but PMC AI is to laser precise 1-2 and insta kill some time 300m away and laser tracking your movement no matter where you move AI kip tracking you no matter what
My biggest issue with PvE is and always has been the PMC ai, They are just repainted Raiders.. No unique voicelines, No targeting bosses or other scavs (Although i think now they sometimes fight scavs) They all bunch up in groups?! And they dont seem to head to PMC extracts especially on reserve?
Make a video talking about LK and his bugs in PVE, you complete the tasks and he doesn't release crafts or trader exchanges
Aim wise I think the AI is in a good spot, but movement, placement (camping) and pathing, I personally hope they improve. I saw a mod in SPT that made AI actually move somewhat like a player, I do hope they integrate something like that in the game.
In PVE, after a number of raids, you’ll know where the AI PMC usually goes and I do find it a bit too predictable.
playing only pve and since the .3 update its like you have a cheater kill you trough bush without recoil and warning in the head every single raid...
what i mean is the boss spawn rate (like 75%) so basicly every 4th raid you can move freely without risk that you get lasered from nowhere?!?!
the bosses are just to op (ik they are bosses) but now its too much
@@mental_hazard_yt i havent played in a while or much at all but dont they laser you in pvp aswel
i think itd be super cool if ai, had a bunch of levels of difficulty, but give the player that info in a natural way. if its a juiced up super accurate op pmc ai that has meta guns, then make him look like it so we can determine hes dangerous. give him the bigggest backpack, better gear, better accuracy, etc. but if its a pmc that will stand there and look around trying to find targets and not do much, make him look like a timmy. BUT it could go a step further and even make it harder by the pmc's switching their gear mid raid, so a juiced up looking guy has a chance to be a trash ai that found ggear. but not the other way around.
I had issues with my game freezing every 2 mins in raid on pve and PvP. I’m currently having an issue where I’m doing an animation forever and it doesn’t stop no matter what I do
I noticed that key spawns are super rare. I did 20 labs run and not one keycard or key spawn.
I unfortunately have the XP bug and have tried everything to fix it. But unfortunately when I get out of raid I see the XP on the slider bar. Go to my stats in the stash and the XP is gone. I restart the game and have even tried going into another raid to see if it’ll update but no luck.
PMC should have better gear for us to loot them after we take them down. And PMC should not Team up with other AI characters (scavs and even guard/boss) to kill us, thats ridiculous… its like its everyone vs you. But I believe that they are improving that
I admit, I'm a bit of a shitter and I'm not very good at pvp, I don't have much time to dump into practicing pvp, maps, spawns, all that stuff. I work lime 40 hours a week and between my fiancé, work, and school I only have a few hours a night to play and it's only once every few days. It's nice not having to compete with mega sweats, it's also so much fun to just learn maps, for the longest time before pve I never touched labs or streets but now I'm learning them fairly well, my biggest issue is the goons, like all the other bosses are fine but good god it was impossible getting signal started for mechanic until they changed the goons spawns