AEW: Fight Forever Broke My Heart... | Review

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  • @3619jon
    @3619jon Рік тому +135

    I felt so old when he said he loved wrestling as a kid growing up and watching "king booker vs rey" My childhood was Bret vs Piper 😂

    • @TheRobD4200
      @TheRobD4200 Рік тому +7

      Attitude Era kid here lol

    • @3619jon
      @3619jon Рік тому +11

      @@TheRobD4200 I was 20 during the attitude era, I recently watched when HHH ruined Stephanie and Tests wedding. Brilliant! Lol

    • @t.styles2k202
      @t.styles2k202 Рік тому +1

      Exactly because I was 16 during that time 😂😅

    • @MR.__G
      @MR.__G Рік тому

      @@3619jonthat was hhh’s break out year 1999. He would then go on to have an amazing feud with the rock in 2000.

    • @Jimraze
      @Jimraze Рік тому +2

      Bret Vs piper is incredible!!!

  • @adriajones4044
    @adriajones4044 Рік тому +139

    game has no business being over $40 to be honest

    • @Boogiechiha977
      @Boogiechiha977 Рік тому +6

      Facts considering they still have to be patched bugs etc ridiculous bro lol some of exceptions like god of war horizon forbidden west ghost of Tsushima Spider-Man but fuck the rest of the games blahh

    • @QuayLoveSoCal
      @QuayLoveSoCal Рік тому +2

      @@Boogiechiha977true lol idek why I wasted 60 when I should’ve waited for the games you named

    • @Boogiechiha977
      @Boogiechiha977 Рік тому

      @@QuayLoveSoCal lol those games I just couldn’t wait for

    • @HCIbn
      @HCIbn Рік тому +1

      I pirate this game.

    • @QuayLoveSoCal
      @QuayLoveSoCal Рік тому

      @@HCIbn what does that mean

  • @DarkArterialGore
    @DarkArterialGore Рік тому +55

    7:09 Aleister Black's tattoo decal pop-in loading time was brutal.

  • @Sun-Eater616
    @Sun-Eater616 Рік тому +66

    I find with 2k23 that there is just so much content. I can do career, my own universe, the faction mode, and the GM mode. As well as just exhibition and online matches. Not to mention the CAW community online. I would need all that and possibly more to justify getting Fight forever at full price.
    It's alright people saying "Its supposed to be like No mercy" but that was decades ago. We've moved on since then!

    • @incognitofool6516
      @incognitofool6516 Рік тому +21

      THANKYOU! Yukes and THQ peaked back in the 360 era. We need to move forward. Everyone keeps talking about a 30 year old fight system like that is enough to carry this game

    • @JM1993951
      @JM1993951 Рік тому +6

      @@incognitofool6516what’s sad to me is that they were really onto something with 2k19. They were so close to perfecting simulation, then they split and now THQ and 2k are only capable of mediocre wrestling games. WWE games haven’t been the same since THQ left and if Fight Forever is what they’re bringing to the table I don’t think I’ll be buying a wrestling game for a while.

    • @Cameronjaunte
      @Cameronjaunte Рік тому +7

      2k23 is with full price and u can make aew if u need it

    • @Curlyheart
      @Curlyheart Рік тому

      I've just stuck with WWF Warzone, Attitude, WrestleMania 2000, and No Mercy.

    • @MPHswayze
      @MPHswayze Рік тому

      "We've moved on since then!" Not smarks, they are in exactly the same place as they were 25 years ago 😂

  • @kamikage9420
    @kamikage9420 Рік тому +39

    In Australia it's $100 for the base version and $130 for the "elite", feels bad for games to keep coming out at this price and be underwhelming at best.

    • @Jayden20933
      @Jayden20933 Рік тому +2

      @@vehtty_an why is their creation suite way worse than svr 06. Their old game. It’s the equivalent of wwe battle grounds rn the blood and weapons were cool for like 2 matches but highly disappointing. Never seen a worse creation suite. Their roster isn’t good enough for that

    • @Jayden20933
      @Jayden20933 Рік тому +1

      @@vehtty_ yukes as a smaller budget yes but that’s irrelevant when they’ve made amazing wrestling games in the past. Compare any of their old gems to this and it’s sorry

  • @c-red4637
    @c-red4637 Рік тому +21

    no entrances really killed it for me, and I'm a fan of max caster but now it just will look odd for him to be in the game later on. for those that don't know him, he's a wrestler that comes out and drops a rap freestyle before heading in the ring, but with this game basically having no entrances outside of 5 seconds of you walking to the ramp, it would literally be impossible to add casters entrance into the game. all he can basically say with the given time frame is "yo, listen!" and thats pretty much it lol.

  • @megaslice23
    @megaslice23 Рік тому +51

    No one can tell me this game was finished. Look at 4:16, the lifeless backgrounds in some of the cutscenes, whatever the heck happened at 7:10, etc. I have no idea why they decided they needed to rush this title out. Also, if they wanted the " arcadey" experience (especially with deathmatches etc), the Fire Pro engine would've been better for this game.

    • @danielrangelvids
      @danielrangelvids Рік тому +6

      What do you mean, that cutscene is totally legit! I always hold my phone like its a basketball

    • @darksideon
      @darksideon Рік тому +5

      They rushed it because Tony wasn't going to give them anymore money for it. Everything in this game looks unfinished, and you can tell that one more year of development would've made it a very good entry into the wrestling genre.

    • @Willowposting
      @Willowposting Рік тому +18

      The thing is it was hardly rushed. It got delayed several times.
      They've had 3 years and THIS is what they gave us.
      People say this is something different from 2K at least, and that's fine. But 2K completely destroys it in terms of career mode, customization, and match types, and 22 was developed in less time with an almost completely new engine.
      This does not feel like a $60-70 game. It feels like a $30 indie title.

    • @THADTOOBAD
      @THADTOOBAD Рік тому +1

      ​@@Willowpostingwell said dawg

    • @BB-ed4om
      @BB-ed4om Рік тому +1

      They didn’t rush. At all. They worked on this for 3 years hitting delay after delay and sinking millions of dollars into it. If they delayed it any longer half the roster would be wrong. It’s already 2 years out of date. Imagine they fixed the issues and released it next year, it would be beyond embarrassing.

  • @OmegaZeero
    @OmegaZeero Рік тому +187

    The only truly honest review I've seen of this. Most others are just glossing over everything you covered 👏

    • @Boogiechiha977
      @Boogiechiha977 Рік тому +7

      Lol facts

    • @PhillyLFC
      @PhillyLFC Рік тому +6

      No they’re not at all, the people you’re talking about know that it will get better with updates. This guy gave an honest review but I think some fans expected way too much for a newer gam. It’s not perfect by any means no game is.

    • @grammysworld5449
      @grammysworld5449 Рік тому +35

      ​@@PhillyLFChere's the excuses

    • @JayB-XS
      @JayB-XS Рік тому +36

      @@PhillyLFC Expect too much? This isn't a charity case bro - they're asking people to pay for this product. In terms of next generation gaming, this isn't up to 'industry standard' - as stated by the reviewer. So unless people are on a crusade to support AEW, or have an emotional attachment to the company, most casual gamers are not interested in hearing the excuses.

    • @devancedaboss3498
      @devancedaboss3498 Рік тому +13

      ​@@JayB-XSthank you I'm A casual fan. I want to know these things before spending my money.

  • @mat.b.
    @mat.b. Рік тому +21

    surprised you say that you can bleed from the face for getting hit in the leg - this wasnt an issue in No Mercy, you only bled there from chair shots to the face or from extreme damage....to the face. Sounds like something for a future patch fix.

    • @DubberRucks
      @DubberRucks Рік тому +1

      That's an interesting idea; hitting someone so hard in the leg their face feels it! 😂

    • @Willowposting
      @Willowposting Рік тому +3

      2K23 still has a bug where if you hit someone and bust them open, they won't start bleeding but you will.
      They claim to have fixed it but haven't. I honestly don't mind much tho because it isn't game breaking and just makes me laugh lol

  • @jackhughes7637
    @jackhughes7637 Рік тому +3

    How can you adore the attitude era growing up, but also go and see King Booker vs Rey Mysterio when you were a young kid?

  • @BigBoyTraks
    @BigBoyTraks Рік тому +21

    People forget, AKI wasn't apart of this. They are the ones who made the game engine for No Mercy, WM2000, WCW Revenge. You can tell THQ tried to mimic their work with Aki from years ago.

    • @SeelkadoomandJokic00
      @SeelkadoomandJokic00 Рік тому +4

      The director of No Mercy & other AKI games was a part of this so yeah they had a member of AKI involved in this

    • @Doop3r
      @Doop3r Рік тому +1

      And it works amazingly

  • @UncomfortableShoes
    @UncomfortableShoes Рік тому +12

    Road to Elite is exactly like watching AEW. Shit just happens, doesn’t make much sense and then it’s just over. This game nailed it. I like the game, I enjoy the gameplay but most of everything else is just dumb.

  • @RationalGaze.BingChillin
    @RationalGaze.BingChillin Рік тому +10

    The fact that you win the championship in career mode and then never see it again is ridiculous in 2023. In No mercy at least the belt was on your shoulder for 3 seconds for your entrance lol no mercy is still better than this game. The comparisons need to end. Also... in no mercy career mode some of the best matches for the story were ones where you were handicap match vs 2 people. This game doesn’t even have handicap match type lol

  • @gameave
    @gameave Рік тому +68

    I have it. The gameplay is good. But they definitely need to add more match types. They need to allow you to morph create a wrestler faces and bodies and also import logos. And also edit in-game wrestler attire colors, not just add a t-shirt like they currently have it. And ability to edit in-game wrestler’s movesets.

    • @RationalGaze.BingChillin
      @RationalGaze.BingChillin Рік тому +31

      Yep... still pissed that I paid 71 bucks to preorder for FTR and Matt only to load the game and they only have 4 tag teams... and I have to manually put FTR and Hardy’s together. 3 year wait for a half assed product? Big yikes. They should be ashamed. But it is a microcosm of AEW’s history as a company and of the extremely poor leadership of Tony Kahn

    • @LostInTransition7
      @LostInTransition7 Рік тому +6

      Right. Game is great. But I noticed the lack of match types and creative content. I hope they can add more to it

    • @TobeyStarburst
      @TobeyStarburst Рік тому +6

      ​@@RationalGaze.BingChillinTony Khan had nothing to do with the game

    • @MR.__G
      @MR.__G Рік тому

      Basically you just want things that were on ps2 games lol.. that’s crazy how all of that is missing in 2023. The audacity to charge 70 bucks

    • @MR.__G
      @MR.__G Рік тому

      @@LostInTransition7smackdown on ps1 has more match types 😅

  • @jayDee92133
    @jayDee92133 Рік тому +18

    I been saying this game was gonna range from bad to mid.

    • @DubberRucks
      @DubberRucks Рік тому +6

      Looks like you're right, chief. Although I'd go on the mid side for now as it looks like it's 2 decades too late 😂

    • @BrickFighter13
      @BrickFighter13 Рік тому +1

      They didn’t try anything new, it’s literally just WWF No Mercy remastered.

  • @TurntUpTurtles
    @TurntUpTurtles Рік тому +20

    AEW fans have been hyping this up for so long as the "all i care about is the gameplay bro" just to hear it is mid is kinda funny. I lean WWE but I really want AEW to succeed.

    • @lordhorg999
      @lordhorg999 Рік тому +2

      Well ive heard other reviewers love it so instead of being a follower play the game yourself and make you own opinion the hype was that it plays like old school jukes games not just cus it was aew.

    • @youngcity4241
      @youngcity4241 Рік тому

      Play the game yourself in my opinion it’s not to slow like 2k and not to fast like arcade great gameplay so far

    • @incognitofool6516
      @incognitofool6516 Рік тому +9

      ​@@lordhorg999"A follower", like you calling someone a "fanboy" on other comments because they disagree with you? He doesnt have to play it for himself. We have eyes. There is hundreds of hours of gameplay footage online. It looks like a 360 game. And plays like a n64 game. We good over here playin 2k

  • @BigmanDogs
    @BigmanDogs Рік тому +68

    I have been waiting for the opinion of someone I can trust. Many AEW fans are trying to wish this game into being good. Ignore my profile pic, I'm an AEW fan too lol.

    • @jay5286
      @jay5286 Рік тому +4

      Lol no your not

    • @adriajones4044
      @adriajones4044 Рік тому

      lol Savage

    • @thadevilzadvocate
      @thadevilzadvocate Рік тому +6

      I’m trusting my own opinion not that of another person. No offense to the creator of this channel. I liked no mercy so I’m going to give this a shot.

    • @BigmanDogs
      @BigmanDogs Рік тому

      @@jay5286 I have literally seen every single episode of Rampage and dynamite

    • @BigmanDogs
      @BigmanDogs Рік тому +3

      @@thadevilzadvocate Why is the metacritic score 63? All reviews averaged out.

  • @aaron3053
    @aaron3053 Рік тому +35

    Honestly I’m a big fan of the arcadey feel I think the gameplay is extremely fun, but the biggest question mark is def the price point I just can’t justify the full price

    • @CurtisPutnam
      @CurtisPutnam Рік тому +6

      the gameplay is pretty solid but i feel like ive already seen everything in just a few hours of playing. this game should be getting regular updates so it might eventually be worth that price but not at the moment.

    • @trevordaigneault4159
      @trevordaigneault4159 Рік тому +3

      Why do people keep saying this when they’ve already stated that they won’t release a new game every year and they will be adding things in future updates… this is a base game at a high price because they don’t have WWE money. Support them and stop 2k from having a monopoly.

    • @punchdrunkpunkfgc
      @punchdrunkpunkfgc Рік тому +12

      ​@trevordaigneault4159 nah. If you're charging $60 at launch, I expect a $60 quality game at launch. Also there's zero chance that updated content isn't paid dlc, which further invalidates that argument.

    • @Danarchy3
      @Danarchy3 Рік тому

      @@CurtisPutnamyou’ve seen everything in a few hours…? You could say this about ANY fighting game. MK, Street Fighter, literally ANY fighting game, play a few matches and you’ve seen everything. The point isn’t to see everything, it’s solid enjoyable gameplay.

    • @Highly3666
      @Highly3666 Рік тому +4

      ​@@trevordaigneault4159you're ridiculous

  • @reedgamingsr
    @reedgamingsr Рік тому +3

    This game feels like an indi game from a fan. It's totally ridiculous how they could publish this game in this state and it's for 60$...

  • @EastyyBlogspot
    @EastyyBlogspot Рік тому +31

    I mentioned that WWE games to me felt like it was years behind of what i would expect by now, and AEW game looks even further behind then that.

    • @99FinLander66
      @99FinLander66 Рік тому +10

      its 2 decades behind :D

    • @DubberRucks
      @DubberRucks Рік тому +1

      ​@@99FinLander66 Thank you! The hype I heard about this made me think people had forgotten games have moved on since No Mercy era

    • @jbbrolic
      @jbbrolic Рік тому

      It looks horrible. Id rather play the old Smackdown games (similar graphic level but far better art direction, great gameplay.)

  • @merk2364
    @merk2364 Рік тому +7

    Kind of sad that we keep having these games that get delayed several times only to come out and be kind of mid.

    • @ZeroShaneBob
      @ZeroShaneBob Рік тому

      This game was never "delayed". They never announced a release date until it was ready (In their mind) to release.

    • @youngcity4241
      @youngcity4241 Рік тому +2

      @@ZeroShaneBobthere’s no way this game was finished lol

    • @Jayden20933
      @Jayden20933 Рік тому +1

      @@youngcity4241I refuse to believe it’s even half way done..

  • @darksavior1187
    @darksavior1187 Рік тому +31

    I certainly didn't go into it expecting it to have all the creation and content of like 2k23, a game that has been iterated and built upon for more than a decade. However, I did hope it would have more than what is there currently. More of just about everything content wise. I feel like the base systems and mechanics are solid (except button mashing for pin and submission breaks, that needs alternatives imo). But it really very much needs more content in just about every area.

    • @juliotorres3147
      @juliotorres3147 Рік тому +1

      Built upon for 3 years. They changed engines for 20

    • @1KQ_
      @1KQ_ Рік тому +1

      THQ have been creating games for a good 20+ years lil bro

  • @tonythepokemonguy751
    @tonythepokemonguy751 Рік тому +14

    “The classics had more meat to them” that line honestly describes the game

  • @TurntUpTurtles
    @TurntUpTurtles Рік тому +7

    If you're a wrestling fan, playing WWE 2K23 isn't a bad idea. It's a great game and is super complete with an amazing creation modes.

    • @DubberRucks
      @DubberRucks Рік тому +1

      I'm glad to hear it. I can only afford 2k19 atm so that'll have to do for my fix

    • @blaze6477
      @blaze6477 Рік тому

      I wouldn't say its super complete. 2k23 wasn't the upgrade I was expecting after 2k23 honestly. There are still issues from last year and new annoying problems too like the instant recovery being broken. And obviously the missing match types that have not come back.
      I was dissapointed by Fight forever too but not for the same reasons as the majority. People forget that this is Yukes fist wrestling game project in years and had to build something from the ground up. I don't think they should've announced as early as they did and released it later.

    • @HCIbn
      @HCIbn Рік тому

      @@blaze6477 🤣🤣🤣
      You need to play WWE 2K19 then 2K20 follow by 2K23 and that’s your upgrade.
      Try harder troll!

  • @e-TheWatchman
    @e-TheWatchman Рік тому +40

    I probably will wait when this is on sale; the perception you said about charcter progression seemed similar to UFC 2-3; honestly a indepth chemistry and character built mechanic for create a character would be nice to see in the future and for further development in story mode... here for Sting.

    • @josephpayne2253
      @josephpayne2253 Рік тому +1

      Yup low price like 20 dollars 🤣

    • @e-TheWatchman
      @e-TheWatchman Рік тому

      @@josephpayne2253 I’ll wait for additional content to contemplate a justifiable price point

  • @Denny-Berge
    @Denny-Berge Рік тому +12

    To be fair with the crowd, if you see the side of the arena the hard camera is on.... no one is in the crowd at their shows. So, it's kinda accurate. hahaha

  • @mikecee5676
    @mikecee5676 Рік тому +12

    Good review. As someone who grew up during the NES era playing the worst WWF games and eventually getting those N64 classics I can appreciate this review. Wrestlemania 2000 and No Mercy were extremely polished for their time and enjoyable (even though frustrating at times).
    Modern wrestling games are lacking is so many areas. Can’t even go backstage anymore and into different rooms like we used to. The AKI grappling and striking system is a breath of familiar air - but unfortunately it won’t save this AEW game. From the games announcement all they focused on was “pick up and play” functionality - which is great. But I need a good career mode across numerous title storylines and characters.
    Thanks for the honest review, I haven’t watched wrestling since high school, 2002. I wanted to get into AEW (have never watched it) through this game. Might have to wait for a bit more polish? Hope they can salvage it and recreate career mode somehow, but I think that’s only wishful thinking.

    • @HuwhyteMan
      @HuwhyteMan Рік тому

      WrestleMania 2000 and No Mercy are in my humble Caucasian opinion still 2 of the best wrestling games ever made. I like them so much I still play them to this day via emulation along with FirePro on PS2 also using an emulator. I haven't really followed wrestling in over a decade but I still enjoy playing wrestling games from time to time. I was looking forward to Fight Forever since hearing about it on account of who was making it given their history of making great wrestling games. Thankfully I kept my expectations realistic and didn't pre order so I could wait until everyone was able to get their hands on it in order to make an informed decision. It's certainly not the worst wrestling game ever but it's also far from the best. I'm gonna be optimistic and say this is a decent starting point for them going forward. If they're smart they'll listen to player feedback and criticism so if/when they make the next one they can deliver a superior product.

    • @DirtyFozzy
      @DirtyFozzy Рік тому

      I suggest watching AEW then playing the game. Gives you a better reason to use the new guys and the product is great! Just sold over 65k tickets at Wembley stadium without a match announced.

    • @JM1993951
      @JM1993951 Рік тому +1

      THQ and 2k need to get off this “pick up and play” nonsense. The people buying these games are wrestling fans. We want familiar controls, but if we can’t get those we’re gonna learn how to play. This happens in all genres but I feel like wrestling fans get it the worst. We’re just expected to buy mediocre games while the developers cater to people who aren’t going to buy their game anyway.
      “Hey, loyal fans. We dumbed everything down and took time away from adding features to try to lure in some Mortal Kombat fans. 60 bucks, please”

    • @leviskata
      @leviskata Рік тому

      Here Comes The Pain is literally better than all of these games

  • @DubberRucks
    @DubberRucks Рік тому +23

    This looks so mid. Thank you for your honesty dude as a lot of people were hyping this so hard when they heard Yukes were onboard.

  • @GrimmHollywood
    @GrimmHollywood Рік тому +21

    I commend your schedule management. Two UA-cam channels and ALL THIS WRESTLING to watch?! I am two AEW episodes behind regularly.

    • @Tampafan33
      @Tampafan33 Рік тому +2

      You know what's crazy?? I keep up weekly with wwe raw,smackdown,nxt. Aew dynamite and rampage. New Japan pro wrestling and tna wrestling. There's times where it feels like a chore honestly

    • @GrimmHollywood
      @GrimmHollywood Рік тому

      @@Tampafan33 Maaan, that's absolutely wild. It's a lot of wrestling. I had to unsub from ROH because it was just too much. When they announced Collision I was happy and filled with anxiety 😭

    • @retrorebound8887
      @retrorebound8887  Рік тому +2

      I appreciate the schedule love, but to be transparent: AEW is literally the only television I watch outside of anime which I only do in bursts. I also don't watch Rampage because I think it's so clearly tacked on. I always watch Dynamite on Wednesday nights after Defining Duke! Collision has been easy since I take weekends off.

    • @GrimmHollywood
      @GrimmHollywood Рік тому

      @@retrorebound8887 Rampage is easily condensed down to 15-20 minutes of wrestling as their commercial breaks are insanely long. A lotta other people skip Rampage too I hear. But definitely inspiring to see the amount of good quality content you put out there, yet still balance "Matty" time in there. Appreciated! 👊

  • @DaBigCheeso
    @DaBigCheeso Рік тому +10

    I bought this on Xbox as opposed to my usual Steam, cause I'm a bit worried about the PC port, and I'm also happy I had Rewards points to turn in to save a couple bucks. Everything I've seen in the previews and hearing in the reviews today says this should have been a $39 digital game. Guess I'll find out tomorrow my personal thoughts on it, but as long as it's fun, that's the most important thing

    • @HCIbn
      @HCIbn Рік тому

      It runs better on pc 1440p @120fps Even a RTX 4080 can run this game over 500fps.

  • @DayLateGamerWill
    @DayLateGamerWill Рік тому +7

    I'm an Attitude era fan, stopped watching around 2003, been starting to look at AEW so I am exactly who you described in "getting back into wrestling with AEW" - been looking at this game for a while, so I am keenly interested in this review

    • @javierdelgado3915
      @javierdelgado3915 Рік тому

      Damn, i started watching in 2004 as a wee lad, and im about to be 30

    • @kirkcinnamon8467
      @kirkcinnamon8467 Рік тому +4

      Get ready to be disappointed. Attitude is 1000000 % better than AEW garbage

    • @HCIbn
      @HCIbn Рік тому +1

      @@kirkcinnamon8467 Facts!
      Only AEW marks would disagree.

  • @fizzyfuzz5878
    @fizzyfuzz5878 Рік тому +50

    Aew definitely isn't close to the attitude era in regards to storytelling

    • @kazman_6899
      @kazman_6899 Рік тому

      Russo

    • @deademcee
      @deademcee Рік тому

      @@kazman_6899haha yess

    • @KnucklesWTD
      @KnucklesWTD Рік тому +7

      It’s not even better than the ruthless aggression era. Arguably not even better that the PG era and the New Generation era’s.

    • @lordhorg999
      @lordhorg999 Рік тому +13

      Yall are such wwe fanboys aew rules i watch both tribalism sucks

    • @deademcee
      @deademcee Рік тому +10

      @@lordhorg999 lmao im sure most of us watch both. And talk shit on both. At least i do. Defending aew so blindly shows where your tribe lies lol

  • @soulsnack8971
    @soulsnack8971 Рік тому +8

    2:23 “Look Gary, there I am!”
    Also, you can see me struggling to get out of the ring with Jeff Hardy lmfao. This game was so bad.

  • @Mr.Parker4392
    @Mr.Parker4392 Рік тому +2

    3:43 If you actually paid $60 for this PS2 game. I hope you do enjoy it cause your a true AEW fan. But this cartoonish art style ain’t it for me fam.

  • @LemoncookieTV
    @LemoncookieTV Рік тому +6

    I love WWF No Mercy more than anything but this game is really rough

    • @jbbrolic
      @jbbrolic Рік тому +1

      Considering the graphics in Fight Forever id rather just keep playing the old Smackdown games, No Mercy, WrestleMania arcade (16bit.)

  • @BallinLikeMike23
    @BallinLikeMike23 Рік тому +2

    What are your favorite retro wrestling games?

  • @mat.b.
    @mat.b. Рік тому +17

    I hate when people excuse the graphics issues as "oh its arcade" or "oh its no mercy style". No. No Mercy and that generation were GOOD for their time, it's not an excuse to say thats why today things look off. And hell, a lot of characters in this game look great, so how does that wash with the ones who look bad? Some characters just look bad, its not some grand plan to do it. Fix em.

    • @KokoTheGorilla69
      @KokoTheGorilla69 Рік тому +10

      Exactly! People call No Mercy an “arcade wrestling game” when at the time it was considered a realistic depiction of what we saw in tv. No dumb mini games, no throwing exploding propane tanks at opponents, etc. This games animations and the way the wrestlers interact looks so sloppy

    • @tge206
      @tge206 Рік тому +2

      I hate when people think graphics make a game good.

    • @KokoTheGorilla69
      @KokoTheGorilla69 Рік тому +2

      @@tge206 I hate when bald guys grow ridiculous beards to compensate

    • @ManAlsume
      @ManAlsume Рік тому

      True. They’re doing constant updates and if they listen to fans on what they want, it will make it much better

    • @MR.__G
      @MR.__G Рік тому

      @@tge206it surely helps makes the game better. It is possible to have good gameplay & good graphics lol

  • @robrob9250
    @robrob9250 Рік тому +45

    Thanks for the review dude, most of what I’ve seen recently has looked positive but as soon as I heard the career mode was so short I realised it would disappoint me. Was literally waiting till today to make a decision on whether to pre-order it or wait till a reduction in price (or a better sequel), and you just saved me fifty pound. Like you I’m a big AEW fan so this is very disappointing after all the wait, but if nothing else it looks like a good foundation for further games, where hopefully they address the issues players have with this one. I’m very disappointed but also very grateful it didn’t cost me fifty quid to feel like this, like with WWE 2k19. Great video though man

    • @retrorebound8887
      @retrorebound8887  Рік тому +7

      Thanks! Yeah, if you're like me and wanted a great career mode, it's just not there at all. The wrestling is solid enough, but an easy wait for a sale especially cause now we have that leak for Stadium Stampede coming to the game so I imagine come holiday 2023 it will be worthwhile at a cheaper price.

    • @beaverdc7
      @beaverdc7 Рік тому +5

      One of the weekly challenges is “Complete road to elite 3x” wtf?! I shouldn’t be able to compete it once in a week.

    • @AztecUnshaven
      @AztecUnshaven Рік тому +3

      ​@@beaverdc7yes you should. It's deliberately meant to have multiple branching playthroughs. That's by design.

    • @beaverdc7
      @beaverdc7 Рік тому +1

      @@AztecUnshaven thanks. I haven’t started that mode yet. As long as it’s not repetitive

    • @thirtythirty9054
      @thirtythirty9054 Рік тому

      Yeah, sad!

  • @Jmerithew87
    @Jmerithew87 Рік тому +9

    Uh oh, that title isn’t promising haha. I was nervous about this one though.

  • @burgerrandi8299
    @burgerrandi8299 Рік тому +8

    Huge wresting fan and AEW guy but man I’m not dropping 60 on this I’m definitely getting it in the future it’s one of those games I get on a random stop at GameStop haha

    • @DubberRucks
      @DubberRucks Рік тому

      Yeah wait for the price drop. This looks more like a fan-made game than a full-fledged time sink

    • @thirtythirty9054
      @thirtythirty9054 Рік тому

      Wait for 20 Bucks or even 15 Bucks. Then it is worth it! It will drop very fast in this current State 😉

    • @georgeh4171
      @georgeh4171 Рік тому

      Just use an emulator and play No Mercy with an AEW mod on it. Much more content and free!

  • @WGPhil-uw5cs
    @WGPhil-uw5cs Рік тому +5

    I wish they focused on actual gameplay and caw mode instead of minigames.

  • @kanseidorifto5367
    @kanseidorifto5367 Рік тому +15

    Truly replicates the AEW experience tbh. Thinks highly of itself, panders to smarks yet exists without any actual depth or complexity and has been done better before

  • @Wrestling_Regime
    @Wrestling_Regime Рік тому +29

    I did not know you were a AEW viewer Matty! Learn new things everyday.
    Truth be told, I did not expect much from this game,

    • @Bricefriha
      @Bricefriha Рік тому +3

      Same, since there was the story between THQ and Kenny Omega last year, I ended up managing my expectations

    • @retrorebound8887
      @retrorebound8887  Рік тому +1

      Oooooh yea. It's the only television I watch outside of anime LOL

  • @ari-dynamicarchive
    @ari-dynamicarchive Рік тому +1

    This game feels like a microwaveable burrito that you pull out too early and realize that only some parts of it are warm, but the rest are still cold.

  • @DetroitsReaper
    @DetroitsReaper Рік тому +1

    Have you played that retromania game

  • @Solid_Cueva
    @Solid_Cueva Рік тому +24

    The empty arenas were done on purpose to replicate empty sections from the real show.

  • @brandonmorgan8975
    @brandonmorgan8975 Рік тому +2

    Glad someone gave a honest review not just "it's great"

  • @tstevens626
    @tstevens626 Рік тому +2

    "NO real storyline guiding the career mode."
    Sounds like AEW to me 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @JoshRazauskas
    @JoshRazauskas Рік тому

    How do you change the difficulty setting? I can’t find it anywhere it’s probably right under my nose and I’m blind but I don’t know where to go. lol. I will say this for the gameplay I have cerebral palsy and this is the first wrestling game I’ve actually been able to physically play in a long time so they definitely went for more of an old school control scheme and managed to pull that off.

    • @Ozzie314
      @Ozzie314 Рік тому

      In settings

    • @JoshRazauskas
      @JoshRazauskas Рік тому

      @@Ozzie314 Thank you yeah but where are they in the menu? I don’t see it on the scroll that’s what I was talking about.

  • @iwatchDVDsonXbox360
    @iwatchDVDsonXbox360 Рік тому +5

    Let's be real here, new Rumble Roses is what we need.

    • @paluxyl.8682
      @paluxyl.8682 Рік тому +3

      Agree , I really want a modern Rumble Roses game with 100 girls and many new match types like a royal rumble.
      An universemode would be awesome , also with a good character creator. ^^

    • @georgeh4171
      @georgeh4171 Рік тому +1

      Based!

    • @ActarusProcyon696
      @ActarusProcyon696 Рік тому +1

      Yep,still got my original copy i bought on day 1 with my 360. Played this game to death but never managed to unlock any achievements for it.👍

  • @youngcity4241
    @youngcity4241 Рік тому +2

    After playing this game for a while they really sold us this game at full price is crazy the game feels unfinished and lacks balancing like the old Aki games needs updates FAST or this game will be done by end of summer…….

  • @nroman387
    @nroman387 Рік тому +6

    If this game was $40 i would think about getting it but $60 no way hopefully it comes to playstation plus

  • @JM1993951
    @JM1993951 Рік тому +1

    No one went into this expecting great graphics. We all saw the models coming out and we were cool with that. That’s a strawman argument to dismiss genuine criticism. The problem is the lack of content for the price they’re asking.
    I like that you said there are better places to spend your time. $60 for this game is insane, but ultimately to most people with a job…$60 isn’t a huge deal. It’s the time. As a kid you have no money and all the time in the world. As you get older you understand that time is your real currency. I just dropped $200 on some NECA figures I found at Target. The money isn’t the main issue. If they want me to spend my TIME, I’m gonna need something to invest in and exhibition doesn’t cut it. My 2k19 Universe is still going strong (5 in-game years/3 real-life years) and I’m still heavily invested in that. I’m booking that shit whenever I have a few minutes of downtime.
    Thanks for the honest review. It’s not “hating” or “shilling for WWE”. It’s just not shilling for AEW. There is potential here but 90% of it is untapped.

  • @lanagievski1540
    @lanagievski1540 Рік тому +5

    Ooft. This looks rough.

  • @MegaMan-bs3oy
    @MegaMan-bs3oy Рік тому +2

    What really scares me is there are people who are eating this 60 bare bs game up. If this was EA or Activision we would be calling for a boycott. THIS GAME has nothing and is boring after you do everything to do. To say its better then 2k with its match types alone is insane. People are beaten and beg for more this day in age.

  • @Animedogfingamer
    @Animedogfingamer Рік тому +9

    This was obvious from released footage but some fans were trying to force it to be the best game ever even calling it better than Here Comes the Pain and No Mercy.
    I get wanting to have an alternative to 2K but this game is a barebones live service game, it’s never going to be as good as it COULD be until all its content gets in the game. Don’t know why people would even joke about thinking of it as a 8-10/10 so early on

  • @polux178
    @polux178 Рік тому

    i want to know, do the wrestlers have their own stats? strenghts, speed etc.. stamina? and do they have damage to the body? legs? head? and all that

  • @ThatReallyPaleGuy
    @ThatReallyPaleGuy Рік тому +25

    I love aew, I love wrestling games. I knew this game wasnt going to be shit when they started showing models and the minigames. The lack of unique match types, and how little they spoke about the career mode made me immediately suspicious. If you buy this, and like it, more power to you. I however will be waiting for fight forever 2 and hope they make the game compelling and worth 70 bucks. Thanks matty.

    • @417Graphix
      @417Graphix Рік тому +1

      The game is going to be routinely updated like Dead Cells; adding new content, wrestlers, etc. I doubt they will be creating another game within the next few years. But things could change

    • @ThatReallyPaleGuy
      @ThatReallyPaleGuy Рік тому +10

      @417Graphix if in a year they have done quite a few quality of life improvements id def check it out, on sale. Otherwise i can wait. Lol

    • @417Graphix
      @417Graphix Рік тому

      @@ThatReallyPaleGuy yeah I feel this game will be getting a decent first patch

    • @kdog1000Again
      @kdog1000Again Рік тому

      Pretty sure its 60 across all consoles tho.

    • @ThatReallyPaleGuy
      @ThatReallyPaleGuy Рік тому +3

      @@kdog1000Again im not paying more than 30 tbh.

  • @tylerwatts3347
    @tylerwatts3347 Рік тому +1

    Hey matty would you ever fo a retrospective of the WWE smackdown games?

  • @Blackdragon79
    @Blackdragon79 Рік тому +3

    This shit looks like a mobile game ported to the PS3

  • @theboxingboy7422
    @theboxingboy7422 Рік тому +2

    for the money they spent and the time they put into it you'd expect to be alot better quality and it fans have to pay $60 dollars they expect a really good quality aswell especially how hyped up it's been. But not having the full roster missing matches, commentary,entrances and short gameplay modes its not the best. This review was an honest one about the game

  • @qKale
    @qKale Рік тому +9

    Yea I plan on waiting for around 20$. With a lack of GM mode or universe type mode there's very little replay value to me. I don't have many friends to play wrestling games with so it's just not even close to being worth 60$ for me. Way too over priced

    • @XavierGage
      @XavierGage Рік тому +2

      Lack???? There isn't one at all and there isn't gonna be one.

  • @TobeyStarburst
    @TobeyStarburst Рік тому

    How do u unlock all the mini games to play?

  • @jakeight
    @jakeight Рік тому +4

    This game could really benefit from GamePass, I'd be down to give it a go

  • @RobAdieComedy
    @RobAdieComedy Рік тому +2

    I hate the illusion of choice. I was doing a run as Gillberg, intentionally losing. Mjf comes up and asks me to join the Inner Circle. My guy, I'm 0-40! Why am I being put in this storyline? If anything, a QT Marshall with the Nightmare Factory Storyline might make more sense.

  • @beaverdc7
    @beaverdc7 Рік тому +5

    The only thing I cared about was the gameplay…and they’ve failed me. It’s a fun game in its own way but in a $25 way. This game is lacking so much that they claim will come soon but they’ve been talking about this for years and it feels like a beta.

  • @christaylor2428
    @christaylor2428 Рік тому +1

    We at least need community creations for wrestlers and arenas.

  • @StreetScience92
    @StreetScience92 Рік тому +5

    The storylines are very AEW Dynamite 😂😂
    No follow ups, super random and non-sensical 😂😂

  • @BrandonAliyas
    @BrandonAliyas Рік тому +1

    You forgot to mention that after you win the tag titles and turn on your partner, it’s never even mentioned again! Like you’re not still champions! Doesn’t even start a feud!

  • @matthewweiss8579
    @matthewweiss8579 Рік тому +4

    Lol there is nobody in the arenas in real life for AEW

    • @DubberRucks
      @DubberRucks Рік тому +2

      A game so bad apparently the NPCs didn't want to show up for it either.

  • @jdayasmr
    @jdayasmr Рік тому +1

    I enjoy AEW but I do not understand people who used to enjoy wrestling but go to only AEW? WWE, at the moment, is far superior.

  • @albertville310
    @albertville310 Рік тому +8

    Completely empty arenas? So this game IS realistic.😅😅😅 thanks for the review. Guess I'm skipping it.

    • @DubberRucks
      @DubberRucks Рік тому +1

      Is there a joke there about a game being so bad even the NPCs don't wanna show up in the audience? I know it's to replicate the show but still lol

    • @lockdown2341
      @lockdown2341 Рік тому

      Except AEW rings aren't empty so..
      Yeah.

    • @albertville310
      @albertville310 Рік тому

      @@lockdown2341 Holy crap. Is this an actual response? "I mean" "so yeah" are the battle cry of petulant 6 year old kids. Dude go learn some grown up English. I mean....Yeah go learn.

  • @russellcampbell3500
    @russellcampbell3500 Рік тому +2

    Thank god finally a review that echoes the way i see the game also. Most honest reviews ir tjis waste of 76 bucks i ever spent on a game. This should be 35 bucks at most. It would be fun but i m so pissed about the price i cant even enjoy it now. So depressing i wanted this to be great.

  • @Epsilonsama
    @Epsilonsama Рік тому +4

    As soon as I saw the first clips of this game I knew it was gonna be crap.

    • @DubberRucks
      @DubberRucks Рік тому

      Yep. It looks like I fell into a time-warp and came out 20 years ago 😂😂

  • @harddeal6097
    @harddeal6097 Рік тому

    With 2 previous game console generation and they choose this?

  • @McGomezAddams
    @McGomezAddams Рік тому +4

    Can't wait to get this on sale for the Wii

  • @canadabest1005
    @canadabest1005 Рік тому +1

    My biggest problem with the game is match modes . Even something as simple as Steel cage is missing.

  • @ThePhoenix24
    @ThePhoenix24 Рік тому +9

    The game definitely reminds me a lot of Fire Pro especially with the barbed wire gameplay where it's cool to see the blood and explosion but it's not very fun after the second playthings when you realize half the fun of wrestling games is bouncing off the rope and springboard and rebound moves.

  • @pjm91788
    @pjm91788 Рік тому +9

    With the taunts and movesets along with the entrances i'm eager to see how the mods turn out on PC. Definitely waiting to see the progression of the game content. Hopefully it gets better, only time will tell.

    • @EbikeAdventuresSD
      @EbikeAdventuresSD Рік тому +12

      They shouldn’t need to do that but no surprise with twinkle toes vision for this game just like his wrestling sucks

    • @BigmanDogs
      @BigmanDogs Рік тому +4

      It was reported that the developers have gone out of their way to make mods next to impossible.

    • @CtheDead209-zt8tj
      @CtheDead209-zt8tj Рік тому +1

      Won't be mods thq nordic blocked them it's been known for months ...

    • @pjm91788
      @pjm91788 Рік тому

      @@CtheDead209-zt8tj i don't keep up with that stuff. Good to know though thanks 👍

  • @kcjc
    @kcjc Рік тому +3

    I was a little hesitant going in but it’s still a bummer that it’s a bit lacking, at least there’s a decent enough foundation. I’m a big fan of the promotion, I keep up with others but AEW is the only one I consistently watch, so I’ll definitely get it after a price drop comes.

    • @jasonbowen4923
      @jasonbowen4923 Рік тому +1

      It will come soon. On the console stores due to lack of sales there will be a price drop next month on this game.

  • @bushmasterscorner
    @bushmasterscorner Рік тому

    are they gonna start adding minor details as the time goes on?
    like the apron cover doesn't even move when the wrestler grabs a weapon from underneath
    even smackdown HCTP does it, and the game is 20 years old

  • @JAYREKLESS
    @JAYREKLESS Рік тому +4

    I'm not a huge AEW fan at all, but I was looking forward to this game as No Mercy was a staple for me growing up

    • @cclizarkb
      @cclizarkb Рік тому +2

      It’s not like that at all

    • @Jack91790
      @Jack91790 Рік тому

      The gameplay is there, but No Mercy's storymode and extras and match types were so much better.

    • @cclizarkb
      @cclizarkb Рік тому +1

      @@Jack91790 the gameplay isn’t even in the same realm. No Mercy each character had about 10x the moves and the collision detection was on point. Literally the only similarity game play wise is that the spirit bar and using left and right bumpers.

    • @blaze6477
      @blaze6477 Рік тому

      ​@cclizarkb it's really annoying how a wrestler slightly touches a set table, the table falls down. So frustrating.

    • @MR.__G
      @MR.__G Рік тому

      @@blaze6477or seeing the weapons go transparent when they’re dropped… or how slow the refs count & then you see the wrestler still pinning after the 3 count lol… us gamers love little details. On those are 3 things they fumbled

  • @nathanaguiar7264
    @nathanaguiar7264 Рік тому +1

    this looks like a ps2 game, more half the roster is missing, road to elite is like 2 hours at most, and the there's better character customization in WWE Day of Reckoning. If your not a hardcore AEW fan and you're really curious, just pirate it.

  • @Dubbel12
    @Dubbel12 Рік тому +3

    I think it really depends what kind of player you are how you are gonna enjoy this game. If you like to just do exhibition matches with your favorite wrestlers then youre gonna have a ball. I personally like to create things and do career modes. So its not really for me.

    • @collinsal1433
      @collinsal1433 Рік тому

      Exactly this. I’m more of an exhibition, tight match guy so creation and story mode doesn’t really bother me.

    • @Dubbel12
      @Dubbel12 Рік тому

      @@collinsal1433 gameplay looks well polished Ill give them that 👌

  • @WompaStompaCyn
    @WompaStompaCyn Рік тому +1

    Mox just hanging out at the Liberty Bell and musing about freedom is... something.

  • @KyleS.1987
    @KyleS.1987 Рік тому +11

    Would've been nice to have a real competitor to the 2K games, but the 2K games are actually good. It's not a Madden situation where the only game in town sucks. The 2K wrestling games, to their credit, bounced back strong after the disaster that was 2K20. I'm disappointed Fight Forever didn't turn out so hot, but all the same I'm happy to carry on playing 2K23. It's a really fun, fully-featured wrestling game with a solid career mode.

    • @youngcity4241
      @youngcity4241 Рік тому +1

      2k23 is really boring in my opinion

    • @deademcee
      @deademcee Рік тому +5

      2k23 so solid. Its hard to compare them directly. But yea its like night and day 😅

    • @gammasmash1924
      @gammasmash1924 Рік тому +4

      Same. I'm just fine with 2k23. I was looking forward to an updated version of No Mercy though. I have some fond memories of playing that game. I swore I read somewhere that career mode would have branching storylines based on wins and losses just like they had in No Mercy. I guess not. Yeah, this is disappointing. Back to 2k23. This dude just saved me 60 bucks.

    • @Razorsedge86
      @Razorsedge86 Рік тому

      @@deademceehow is it solid? It’s had so many bugs and issues. Many that won’t be fixed because they’re already working on 2k24. But you guys will continue to support mediocrity.
      This gameplay is more fun than 2k games in my opinion and it has half the options.

    • @tge206
      @tge206 Рік тому

      2K is mid😂

  • @johnniestinson
    @johnniestinson Рік тому

    Does this game have tag team entrances?

    • @elijahloveell8809
      @elijahloveell8809 Рік тому

      Yes but they’re not full entrances. All entrances in this game are very short

  • @ApexNYC
    @ApexNYC Рік тому +4

    GREAT HONEST UNBIASED REVIEW👌

  • @LaryCaverga94
    @LaryCaverga94 Рік тому +2

    How tf they gonna have Matt Hardy locked behind a preorder bonus when Jeff is in the game, and came after lmfao

  • @germanburgos8844
    @germanburgos8844 Рік тому +4

    My heart is broken when you said you don’t watch the wwe 😢

    • @retrorebound8887
      @retrorebound8887  Рік тому +4

      I watch clips on UA-cam to keep up with the Bloodline, Cody Rhodes, and Dominik/Rey Mysterio, but I otherwise don't really care for their roster/stories.

  • @5150scottie5150
    @5150scottie5150 Рік тому

    Thanks for the honesty
    People comparing this to No Mercy & Here comes the pain... just stop please stop

  • @FernandoGarcia-rl6gj
    @FernandoGarcia-rl6gj Рік тому +3

    I love AEW but yeah from the jump I already knew I was going to buy it when it was on sale lol worth 20$-30$

  • @NapoleonicWarrior
    @NapoleonicWarrior Рік тому

    I got the AEW fight forever elite edition for the Switch and cannot launch the game. I thought we had 1 day early launch. Anyone has this issue?

  • @lunchbox_thegamer8694
    @lunchbox_thegamer8694 Рік тому +8

    It's not bad. It's a starter title. Hopefully they improve stuff in the future.

  • @MK_gamer2-0
    @MK_gamer2-0 Рік тому +2

    Had a bad feeling about this game lol, game will get better with time, but first impression was important.
    Let's see how long the devs support the game if nobody plays it in a few months time.

    • @georgeh4171
      @georgeh4171 Рік тому +2

      This! It won’t have sold enough to get the continuous updates it needs.

  • @sameoldsameold9239
    @sameoldsameold9239 Рік тому +13

    Looks like a solid foundation, hope it's expanded/followed up on.

  • @captainxhulio2929
    @captainxhulio2929 Рік тому

    This game is a knock-off of a knock-off. Basically, the essence of AEW itself. Even the N64 wrestling games America got was a knock-off of VPW and VPW2. Superior games with more options, a larger roster, actual specific grunts, and a grand presentation. No Mercy was flawed even more than its predecessor, WrestleMania 2000, with fewer options in attires, moves, and customization in wrestlers and PPVs. Not to mention, all CAWs are assigned to do their turnbuckle special as a priority (an awful oversight). The takedown specials do the NORMAL move instead of the ground special like they did in previous games. Etc. The nostalgia for this game is truly fantasy as VPW2 had so much more and was so much more.

  • @KeroValentine
    @KeroValentine Рік тому +3

    This game definitely does not deserve full price with how lacking it is in almost all aspects. The gameplay has potential but even that shows problems once you go beyond the surface level. Perfectly worded review here Matty!

    • @thirtythirty9054
      @thirtythirty9054 Рік тому +2

      It is unpolished. That's it. Like usal nowdays. Sad! Another broken Dream. Really Sad. Maybe with the Time it get better. Very much Bugs and Glitches. And somestimes the AI is totally broken.

  • @alexdamflion4820
    @alexdamflion4820 Рік тому +2

    I haven't followed this promotion closely in months I planned on getting the game though. But "God Damn pal" that cAw MoDe looks horrendous. Pass for now

  • @CyberHardcore-z7g
    @CyberHardcore-z7g Рік тому +13

    I knew this was gonna be overhyped. Everything about it seemed quite barren and underwhelming from the marketing. So many features we took for granted in the WWE 2K games that were missing in this game