The Origin of the Magic Art (Pliny the Elder - c. 77 AD)

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  • @TheModernHermeticist
    @TheModernHermeticist  Рік тому +29

    Please like, share, and leave a comment to be a sweet-smelling incense unto the algogods. Make Pliny roll in his grave.

    • @guidedmeditation2396
      @guidedmeditation2396 Рік тому +2

      True magic is actually no less than universal knowledge that is older than anything recorded in human history. Billions or trillions of years old. Teaching methods and periods of documented activities come and go but the true origin is not even on this planet. Still its interesting to learn about periods in more recent history.

    • @Bildgesmythe
      @Bildgesmythe Рік тому +5

      Thanks again for your perfect voice and great art illustrate the video.

    • @Shadoweknows76
      @Shadoweknows76 Рік тому +1

      Here's your sweet comment. I am a child of God. I am nephilum Daughter of god. Nothing about my all seeing knowledge has been fun a memory from 4m old isn't cool. Accidentally hurting people physically and training your babies to not Accidentally kill during play. We are many and it's about to get erased and fixed. Depending on the person on judgment day. You should be seeking y
      Our creator instead of teaching this 😢

    • @morlin101
      @morlin101 2 місяці тому

      Surely u mean the Alchemical stars and not gogogods

  • @TheModernHermeticist
    @TheModernHermeticist  Рік тому +15

    If you're wondering about "Hermippus, who wrote about the whole craft very carefully, compiled abstracts for and commentaries on the two million verses written by Zoroaster", see FGH 1026 F57 (courtesy of Daniel Ogden).

  • @Monica23881
    @Monica23881 Рік тому +12

    We could use some legislation banning human sacrifice in these times as well.

    • @Cholatemilk1
      @Cholatemilk1 Рік тому +3

      I agree with the sentiment but I believe most countries murder laws include this

  • @GlynWilliams-wz7ol
    @GlynWilliams-wz7ol Рік тому +7

    Just would like to say. Thanks for your amazing work. Love and peace. Glyn

  • @sieben.5141
    @sieben.5141 Рік тому +3

    “That these doctrines should have been received by any portion of mankind, and transmitted to us by the aid of memory, is to me surprising beyond anything I can conceive”.
    Beyond anything you were able to conceive, indeed.

  • @TheWisestOwl
    @TheWisestOwl Рік тому +11

    Nice video, great editing as always.

  • @markdpricemusic1574
    @markdpricemusic1574 Рік тому +17

    Once again, many thanks for all your work. Very much appreciated!

  • @sonofsothis58
    @sonofsothis58 Рік тому +10

    Thank you for reading this classic, I enjoyed it.

  • @appidydafoo
    @appidydafoo Рік тому +7

    One of my favorite books. Great reading. Thank you.

  • @tedhand6237
    @tedhand6237 Рік тому +4

    So stoked you keep cranking these audiobooks out. This is the content I am here to see.

  • @david-jr5fn
    @david-jr5fn Рік тому +26

    The Zoroastrians homeland however was Airyana Vaeja, a place in the far north and so this is the ultimate origin of magic. The Celts themselves say that the knowledge of the druids comes from the Northern islands of the Earth

    • @arturhashmi6281
      @arturhashmi6281 Рік тому +3

      It is mythical place, Celts believed that they came from the west, for example. Zoroaster did not live 6 thousands years before Plato, Gilgamesh was not king 20 thousands years ago, You should not take myths literally

    • @FramingEden
      @FramingEden Рік тому +3

      Without a pure cause whether it be for concealing or revealing, yes, without a pure cause everything will be for nought, it would be better to not try than try with half measure, but how can one try with full measure? Is it for passion? Is it for feeling? Is it for pride? Greed? To satiate the unending thirst for knowledge... no... see a full measure of effort can be offered by those of a broken heart and contrite spirit, the praises can be heard at the moment of victory, the sound of a child's needs through tears and howling, yes, we all posess 'magic' some men have Conquered the world, namely Jesus, Jesus Teaches Us The Greatest Teaching, Lose Your Life And Gain It, Covet Your Lige And Lose It... it is the hand which presseth the olive which gets the oil... understand everything you do not want is everything that will cause you to grow... see? It is only through suffering, climbing to the Pinnacle of that which I despise, that I see the scale of the mountain I must remove, it is only from a very high place I see the web tug and pull at destiny... you want the truth? You cannot handle the Truth, unless you become broken first, destroy all that you know so that a pure temple may be lifted from the ash...

    • @david-jr5fn
      @david-jr5fn Рік тому +1

      @@arturhashmi6281 The Celts don't all have the same origin so it's impossible to say they came from north, south, east or west unless we talk about specific Celts. Gilgamesh reigned around 2700 BCE, which is approximately 4,700 years ago.

    • @arturhashmi6281
      @arturhashmi6281 Рік тому

      @@david-jr5fn Celts as any indo-european ethnic group came to Europe from Asia thats what I meant, but british Celts believed that they came from the west, You are right about historical Gilgamesh, If he was real, but some of the sumerian kings from their own chronicles ruled ~ 40k years bc, which is just impossible, thats what I meant again

    • @mickeysquintz9650
      @mickeysquintz9650 Рік тому +3

      HYPERBOREANS

  • @Marjorie-yt7pb
    @Marjorie-yt7pb Рік тому +9

    Making my day . Wonderful artworks and reading 😇

  • @mrwondering2594
    @mrwondering2594 Рік тому +12

    Your the best thanks for all you do
    I wonder if perhaps you can do a few videos of shamanism/ancestral magic surely all the arts stemmed from it

  • @graceanderson6532
    @graceanderson6532 Рік тому +7

    Thanks for your work man! Much appreciated 💙

  • @Bildgesmythe
    @Bildgesmythe Рік тому +4

    Always great to see a new upload!

  • @garrinking
    @garrinking Рік тому +2

    I mean, I was glad to see David brought in this year, both these guys are underrated even Chris as a mega pro deserves that rec!

  • @ChrisLively
    @ChrisLively Рік тому +4

    Greetings from Chattanooga, TN. I love the topic and the art presented here is such that I could look at it forever. There's more going on than just art I feel. Thanks for your time and for sharing your knowledge and wisdom.

  • @rxno6921
    @rxno6921 Рік тому +1

    So happy I’ve found this channel. Thank you 🙏

  • @SobekLOTFC
    @SobekLOTFC Рік тому +3

    This was awesome, Dan- keep up the excellent work 👏

  • @phillipbernhardt-house6907
    @phillipbernhardt-house6907 Рік тому +3

    Lots of interest here...from the discussion of the Druids (which, I think, really needs to be taken into account when discussing the later Insular Celtic "druids" as if they're more sacerdotal rather than sorcerous!) to the mention of the cynocephalus plant, which I am now wondering if it made it into my discussion of Dogheads or not...I remember coming across the reference, but I might not have included it since it was talking about a plant rather than a monstrous race, though I'll have to check, as this is something that I know I agonized over whether or not to include even in a footnote. (Strange how such things that seem so big in the moment of research and writing can be so easily forgotten a decade and more onwards...!?!)
    Looking forward to speaking further soon! Thanks for your continued excellent work!

  • @macavelli8905
    @macavelli8905 Рік тому +4

    Interesting presentation very good video

  • @Jude107c
    @Jude107c Рік тому +1

    You have a wonderful fireside voice! Please, add no music to your future readings! Listening to your readings makes me feel like I’m in a dark and cosy library chamber in a manor lit only by a fire place!

  • @jasminenwhitaker9717
    @jasminenwhitaker9717 Рік тому +2

    Good morning everyone blessings 🙌 🙏 ✨️ ❤

  • @leoalvarado6466
    @leoalvarado6466 Рік тому +2

    I find some of the dates wrong? Zoroastrianism was in 1768 B.C.E. or so ! 😮

    • @lunam7249
      @lunam7249 Рік тому

      persians in 1768 BC...zoroaster i believe was alive around 900a.d. or 1100 years ago

  • @marcinswoboda7993
    @marcinswoboda7993 Місяць тому

    I am suprised and not surprised at all when Pliny mentiones that people separated from each other are similar in magick, Original interface with reality.

  • @johnnewton8017
    @johnnewton8017 Рік тому +4

    “Et in Arcadia ego”

  • @wojo6567
    @wojo6567 Рік тому +4

    I like the video and will be watching many more of your content. My friends like the magic trick where I disappear for some reason. One of these sentences is true and one is false ...you decide.

  • @isacvlad
    @isacvlad Рік тому +7

    🙏

  • @FreedomandRights4US
    @FreedomandRights4US Рік тому +7

  • @1ntrcnnctr608
    @1ntrcnnctr608 Рік тому +3

    magnificent

  • @robertpaulcorless7048
    @robertpaulcorless7048 Рік тому +4

    Ta Dan x

  • @otilium7503
    @otilium7503 Рік тому +2

    Thank you

  • @NateSpinney
    @NateSpinney Рік тому +1

    Even the disciples through lots to determine who would be the new disciple bus win such an art, as drawing lots which is a part of the magical arts is conducted in accordance with God and Soli guard then it is not an abomination to his eyes, but pleasing to his will and those who can see understand this most occult truth of the occult

  • @Cholatemilk1
    @Cholatemilk1 Рік тому +2

    Heck ya dan

  • @mickeysquintz9650
    @mickeysquintz9650 Рік тому +1

    I have two translators translating Liber Vaccae to English as I write this. First time in the public sector. Let me know if you want to talk shop.

    • @JohnnyPork82
      @JohnnyPork82 Рік тому

      didn't mind unveiled already do that

  • @ewadsworth
    @ewadsworth Рік тому +4

    💎

  • @markgamble7699
    @markgamble7699 Рік тому +3

    Biggest magic lies within the kjv bible, for those who read it spiritually… 22 Hebrew Alphabet in Psalms 119… Then again, all religions have the same magic just different names…

    • @lunam7249
      @lunam7249 Рік тому +1

      correct!!❤❤ the bible is just 1 big magic book, with "yeh-zues" as its greatest magi...

  • @morlin101
    @morlin101 2 місяці тому

    I'm most certain of certain that I am zoroaster in my last universe or the first University I lived in

  • @dangerouswitch1066
    @dangerouswitch1066 Рік тому +1

    Pliny the elder, glad we have what little ww do.

  • @NateSpinney
    @NateSpinney Рік тому

    The only reason that Simon, the sorcerer displeased God so much was that his sorcery was not conducted in accordance with God in Sol, Egret God, or even the healing arts, and magics of the apostles, or it could be called nothing other than magic was not an abomination in the eyes were God, because it was done in accordance with God, and solely of God

  • @johnnewton8017
    @johnnewton8017 Рік тому +3

    Is that Nero’s birth chart!?

  • @timnizle1
    @timnizle1 Рік тому +5

    Well I guess that xplains it, gods never listen ...it's my damnable freckles!!
    🤣👌🙏

  • @retribution999
    @retribution999 Рік тому

    What about Pico and his natural magic?

    • @TheModernHermeticist
      @TheModernHermeticist  Рік тому

      What about it?

    • @retribution999
      @retribution999 Рік тому

      @@TheModernHermeticist I'm surprised there was no mention of natural magic as describe by him in Oration on dignity on man.

    • @TheModernHermeticist
      @TheModernHermeticist  Рік тому

      Check this out for the Magical and Orphic Conclusions ua-cam.com/video/Q0V45dp7R04/v-deo.html

    • @TheModernHermeticist
      @TheModernHermeticist  Рік тому

      (I see from the comments you've already checked it out!)

  • @merlinidlehands3302
    @merlinidlehands3302 Рік тому +1

    Bibbty Boptty BOO

  • @deonewilliams2924
    @deonewilliams2924 4 місяці тому

    Maybe originated with the Tuatha De’ Danann.

  • @rundbaum
    @rundbaum 3 місяці тому

    what a genius! . . .

  • @johndee3301
    @johndee3301 Рік тому +1

    "Magic doesn't work because Nero quit practicing. Nero, being insanely greedy, wouldn't have quit if it works, therefore it doesn't work." Not very solid logic from my man Pliny the Elder.

    • @lunam7249
      @lunam7249 Рік тому

      and how do you explain "steve jobs"?

    • @johndee3301
      @johndee3301 Рік тому

      @@lunam7249 Steve Jobs? wtf. Jobs was no magician! He was a narcissistic moron who couldn't even connect with his own children. He was just a corporate avatar. Jobs died miserable, shaking with cancer, and regretting his entire life. He was a peasant, lots of money in the bank, but he died a very poor man. Cool sweaters though!

  • @sonsofthewestredwhiteblue5317

    Who else clicked on this because they thought the dude Barney Gumball got into a bar fight and flogged Wade Boggs over also catalysed the conventional application of magic….
    “Lord Palmerston”!

  • @adildaruwalla.messengerofa2337
    @adildaruwalla.messengerofa2337 5 місяців тому

    PLEASE CHANGE TITLE FROM MAGIC TO MIRACLE.

  • @WitchyWitchOf420
    @WitchyWitchOf420 Рік тому

    Train.....in Rome
    ?

  • @Writhe_n_Shine
    @Writhe_n_Shine Рік тому +1

    Got to love the haters!

  • @alreadybanned-pe6se
    @alreadybanned-pe6se Рік тому

    Jesus is King

  • @suesmith9665
    @suesmith9665 Рік тому

    Witery

  • @metafisicacibernetica
    @metafisicacibernetica Рік тому +5

    🙏

  • @fionamcgauley7027
    @fionamcgauley7027 24 дні тому +1

    Thank you