"It was all a hallucination" doesn't work if multiple characters went through stuff when Magne wasn't present. The principal had multiple sessions with the school counselor where she admitted everything: her kids aren't her kids, she was involved in multiple violent ends, etc.
My guess is that the show was greenlit for just one more season. So I think the writers had to come up with an ending. An there's no way that they could pull off an "actual Ragnarok" with very limited cast, low budget and resources. If you will look at it that way, then the show isn't so bad It's similar to the movies A Monster Calls or I Kill Giants.
@1Soulboy no Lost went to shit well before the ending like season 4 or 5. You could say season 7 and 8 on GOT but they still could have stuck the landing. RAGNAROK made it 2 Seasons a 4/5 episodes into season 3. I didn't love episode 5 but could have been happy with it ending there. Literally 1 episode ruined the whole thing. 1 single episode made it all a waste of time.
I really thought it was weird that in season 2 when Saxa tried to take the hammer from Magne after she had been punished for being a traitor, the hammer was so heavy that she couldn't even pick it up but in season 3, they were passing it around like a game of Hot Potatoe
Exactly. In mythology.. the hammer was supposed to be so heavy that only Thor could lift it. They totally disregarded it. But it wouldn't work for the Giants after Fyor tried to throw it. Again completely disregarded seasons 1 & 2 after
@@fuel4insanity6 thats not mythology , thats marvel, in mythology there are other people who had lifted the hammer but only thor could use its powers as his true owner
It would have been a better ending, if Saxa was telling a story to her and Magne's child. Leaving it open to if it was real or not, and if it was real their child being the reason for peace.
I'm choosing to believe that that "hallucination scene" at Magne's graduation was him imagining how Ragnarok would have played out if he did not declare peace, not that all the events didn't happen. There were too many incidents throughout that cannot be explained by "imagination". Missing tourists on the river, how did that kid get an arrow in his eye, etc.
I honestly hope the actors that worked on this show can get hired for Vikings Valhalla so they can work on a Vikings themed Netflix show with writers that actually know what they’re doing and don’t cuck they’re audience just because they hit a writer’s block.
I’m honestly irritated about the entire series it was a great show that I kept looking forward to when they released a season. Season 3 was heading in the right direction I thought I was finally going to see a cool snake battle or something but it never happens dude just threw the hammer once and that was it and to find out it was all in his head the entire 3 seasons is pathetic what a was of time.
When the show came out it had a special place in my heart, and when i saw that a 3th season was on it's way i was shocked and excited for months, and then the season finally came, now i don't know what to think no more, i am extremely disappointed and quite sad :/
@@brandongrimes4982 Yeah. If it was all in his head, then what happened to the giant dad that the mc killed??? This is just making me confused I was hoping for it to be better because it'll be the last season. I was also disappointed when they decided to make peace with the giants and no final battle.
@@Kai_Exploitsall that hype in the trailer just for it to be a Fantasy and you got me wondering too what happened to Vidar if he didnt die by Magne and the Axe???
i am so sad that they ruined the show with a 'it was all in his head' we waited for two years for the final battle and they teased us so much for this and it was hardly any action
Absolutely agree, in movies like Fight Club, when you realise Tyler isn't actually real, you see flashbacks to scenes that show you what really happened, there are clues during the movie that you see and then it all makes sense. I didn't get any clues at all it was inside Magne's head, not until the very end of the show, so you've no idea what really happened. I would rather Netflix just cancelled the show after season 2 like they usually do and leave us all wondering rather than literally killing the show off completely with such a bad ending. I don't see myself ever watching this show again, it was so good seeing him throw that hammer for the first time, or seeing how fast he can run, but all of that isn't real now so its just pointless. What about when they go hiking and he can see so much further ahead, was he just guessing? What about when he left Isolde on the mountain, the police said he was back in town in 30 minutes when it usually takes 90, did he lie or did that conversation never take place, did he even go with her? You can pick the entire show to pieces now and it has ruined the entire show for me - extreme I know, but when you've waited years for another 6 episodes and this is what you get, its a bit frustrating.
I even dislike Fight Club as there is no way a "oh so it was all a dream" ending can be pulled of in a satisfying way. It's the definition of a bad ending. At least Fight Club hat some coherence to it. Other than that, I don't understand why so many people love it so much. We've seen this exact ending so many times already. But never has it been done so badly like in Ragnarok's case. I can't put into words how much I hate this series' ending. It was the worst possible ending done in the worst possible way.
@@FilmscoreMetaler in Fight Club Tyler was the alter ego, there are lots of subtle clues, like how Tyler doesn’t pay to get on the bus, he doesn’t set off any car alarms. There are lots of others too. It makes sense with the ‘simple condo life’ theme because it’s the exact opposite. There aren’t any scenes I can think of that are pointless once you know the ending, unlike Ragnorok. This is typical of Netflix though. Look at long it’s taken for them to do Stranger Things, the cast will be in their 40’s by the time they put out another season.
@@NotTheMaestro Fair enough, maybe I need to re-watch Fight Club some day, however I'm in somewhat of a personal war with these kinds of twist endings. More often than not, everything you saw is recontextualized and retroactively becomes a waste of time. We've seen it in Identity, Machinist, Shutter Island, Vanilla Sky, Secret Window and so many others and not even once it did not feel like the shit ending it is. Stranger Things could've ended at any given season. Every time they beat some boss level monster and closed the portals. Last season they wrapped up all the lore so it would have felt right to end it here. Nope, the group steps out just to see some more out-of-the-blue portals on the horizon. It's the same plot check points happening every season and they didn't even know where to direct their "story" back in this weird season 2 they never refered to again afterwards. Only Netflix series worth continuing watching is Cobra Kai. If they mess that one up, I'll leave their service for good.
Here's a better ending for yall, the final battle is real after lokis bf gets shot in the graduation and loki goes evil and asks Magne why he didn't jump to catch it and also that the futul weren't the only giant's and ofc that the peace was fake and that the giant's were just waiting to attack magne and join loki
The first two seasons were strong and I was hooked. I was checking continuously when the 3rd season was coming… Neither the fans nor the actors deserved this ending…
The ending definitely ruins the series by just implying that everything that happened in the series was just in Magne's head. The series was just better off with Magne being the reincarnated Thor that decided to peacefully resolve the issues with the giants, and finding a way to move on afterwards. Also, Magne being arrogant due to the power of the hammer isn't too farfetched, as for most of season 1 and 2, Magne was powerless or less powerful than the giants, but by the end of season 2, he now has the power to beat them. He does try to beat them without the hammer, but when that ultimately fails and he finally realizes that with the hammer he has them finally beaten, it just makes sense for the power to go to his head. Even Thor in Norse mythology had his moments of arrogance. In many ways, Magne in season 3 embodied the best and worst qualities of Thor, while also being somewhat different. Him choosing peace with the giants at the end is proof of how he differs from Thor. My personal head canon is that everything that happened was real, and Magne had a metaphorical Ragnarok battle to move on from being the reincarnated Thor, and just go on to be Magne.
Thats what i wish had actually happened instead of the writers just saying it was all in his head, have all the events be real but the final battle scenes we see at the graduation be essentially an alternate ending, what could have happened if they didnt put down their weapons
Yeah I have the same head canon as you, for my own sanity I refuse to believe it was all fake, the entire show literally makes zero sense if that were the case
I want to tell myself that Ragnarok happened. The gods and giants died thus releasing the humans they were inhabiting to be free to live their lives as they chose to.
Agreed, the ending absolutely RUINED the show!! Not only was there no big satisfying battle to end things off, but it was all apparently *IN HIS HEAD* and not real?!
It did not all happen in his head. He had a vision of what would have happened if the war had taken place, triggered by the comics (which obviously did not really show their faces). That's all it was, just like Twilight BD part 2 with Alice. Peace was already made. I feel like I'm the only one who understood it was all just a vision simply made by him looking at the comics. The creators didn't even say it was all in his head, y'all just rolled with it. Vidor would've also came back.
@@larrie9491You're not the only one who got the finale. It was just shite. Like they didn't know how to end it. The entire season 3 felt off to me, like some other writers came and wrote it. It's not that people didn't get it, it was just a very unsatisfactory ending of a series that was good for 2 seasons.
@@thenaturalyogi5934 Yeah, if she was finally able to find the ability to love and feel things like her brother did, it would have been a good ending that they end up together. Not that dumb generic chic that they shoved down everyones throat, Season 3 starts and they're sleeping together, no relationship development whatsoever, they just show you that they are together and in love, lmao. Dumb.
Not only that, but an unforeseen pregnancy would have given enough material for at least two more seasons where it would be the two of them against everyone, because a child uniting the blood of the Gods and the Giants would have meant a threat to both groups. How did it happen? What power would that child have, and what group would he or she join?
The guy who created this show trolled us hard. "Magne liked comic books"..not once was it shown or mentioned before ep 6 of season 3. How did he not know about Thor if he read the comics!?! He had to ask about Thor from his teacher. "It was all in his head"..so did he imagine his brother getting pregnant and the mom talking with a therapist? Why would he imagine that? Is he just a weirdo? If he was crazy the entire time living in a made up fantasy world how did he manage to find an attractive girlfriend? The ending showed him throwing away comic books and with that the "giants" house changed to normal. The creator of this show pretty much said that comic books and superhero shows are for children and you need to throw childish things away. Ragnarok is 1/10 and not worth watching. It was a waste of time.
I think this bad plot twist wascreated already at season 3 development, the guy didnt have a clew at how to finish it, ot the badge to do a real war or fight scenes
@@kollen5952 Ah... the Ronald D Moore BSG song is the coordinates to Earth and Kara is an angel approach. What is it about the tail end of 3rd and 4th seasons of shows slated to end that has the creators suddenly in rush that that churn out something so sloppy? RDM at least had the writers strike to blame at the time.
This means that Magne threatens the Jutul family with a homemade hammer, making them change his school grades, pay for the coffee, let him sleep in his house, and eat all their food... Killing the father of his brother... And also this couldn't have been in his mind because when Weanchi (The old lady that gave the power) was there before Isolde died, the fact that Vidar was already killing monsters before Isolde died, only shows more plot holes... Also, why did everyone was able to move Mjolnir like a toy when in season 2 Saxa said it was "too heavy to lift" and wasn't able to steal it from Magne...
It's not just the last episode. The whole season felt off. A lot of it felt cheesy, there were a lot of inconsistencies, the characters felt like different people. S1 and 2 had a completely different vibe, they were dark, gritty, mysterious, while this literally felt like a feel-good comic book story and the villains no longer even felt threatening and ominous like they did in previous seasons. Ran and Saxa were cunning and devious, this time they felt tame and weak. Fjor had the whole evil to redemption then back to evil arc and it was fully justified, he was supposed to be ignited and out for blood, yet he felt like a weak loser this season. Herman Tommeraas who plays him is a tremendous actor and I think they massively underutilized his entire role in this season. As for the heroes - they also lost all mystery to them. When Freya was introduce she felt mysterious and full of potential, now she's just someone on the side who didn't even really play a role. She was just there. I don't think that "it was all in his head", because of the inconsistencies, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was still their intentions despite the inconsistencies, because you could find them all over the place. I also don't think it even matters, both endings regardless of if it was in his head or not are horrible.
You make a better argument than most of these people. Season 1 and Season 2 are great and a solid 8/10 show. It was atmospheric, mysterious, and had a great story with the Jutul's association with the town. Not to mention the entire Jutul family did a great job with their characters, especially Saxa and Fjor. I even feel some nostalgia watching the friendship between Magne and Isolde unfold and cause the eventual dynamics between gods and giants. A single episode shouldn't make a great TV show turn into a bad one, and most would agree that not all of season 3 was poorly written, but it was certainly the worst of the seasons, which doesn't say much.
I honestly thought that at the graduation, the arrow actually hit Jens (Baldur) and that's where Ragnarok would start. Going after the whole "One often meets his Fate on the same path he takes to avoid it" thing. It could have been perfect. There was generally still a lot of potential left in the show. Great actors, good ideas. They were on their way to have imo the best Thor portray ever (maybe after gow Thor)... Sucks that it essentially just got thrown out the windows.
I thought the arrow shot by Ran in ep 4 would hit Jens, it would make sense (even if in mythology Baldur was accidentally killed by Loki). But injuring a random kid was also kind of nonsense
@@sofiam50 I thought they tried to make that kid a new god or smth, but that was totally missed, what god was he supposed to be, what was the purpose of that arrow... I don't really get it, it seems like writers wrote the script up to that point and said screw it, too lazy to write another season.
The first season where Magnes mother scolds him for living in a fantasy world had both Magne and us questioning his sanity. The fact they went away from this back then, but still ended with everything just being in his head is just moving the story backwards to the beginning
All the adults tried to convince Magne he was delusional in s1 but then a convo with Fjor let him know that he didn't make it up. And then two seasons later it turns out Magne made it up after all...?
@@nuclearwessels2078 There were so many hints! The whole story was told in third person by a dead girl who at that point only existed in Magne's head. Isolde narrated the whole thing.
There's a difference between foreshadowing and slapping a random ending in. Imo foreshadowing has to be super consistent to the point where you can track the threads across the seasons--otherwise it's poor writing.@@Trashalchemy I guess to me, the threads weren't consistent enough throughout the show that this was all in Magne's head.
I'm almost willing to bet that the reason why the ending was this way had something to do with Netflix itself. I would assume they cut the budget too much, or even cancelled a potential 4th season.
Exactly, I feel like even if they planned for this to be the last season I think they had a different plan for the ending while filming most of the episodes and then Netflix probably cut their filming super short and so they had to scramble for an ending that wouldn’t require as much filming, like maybe they already had the battle filmed and wanted the graduation to kick it off, but then got cut short so had to use the graduation scene to intercut with the battle being in his head. With how good the previous seasons were I feel like if they had planned this ending from even the beginning of writing season 3, they could have done it so much better.
I agree, I think that the original intention was for the fight end in peace like they showed, but that another big bad was going to show up for an epic 4th season ending. Third season and it's finale were just terrible.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't just all in his head, I think it was just him playing out what could have happened if he continued going down the route he was going. They just got greedy and tried to make the bad ending a good ending so nobody complained but they just ruined it by doing that
Like many other people have said, the whole graduation/imagination scene doesn't explain how some scenes happened earlier like that kid getting shot in the eye or Magne being acknowledged that he has super strength by another person in the first season. It created a lot of plot holes. I want to believe everything else was real and only the last battle played out in his mind.
With this kind of plot twist, there should’ve been overlapping scenes of what’s in his head vs hinting at reality which is him being schizophrenic. There should’ve been hints of reality. But what we got was just… “it was all in his head”. So the end scene of them taking part in drinking and having a meal together did not make a lick of sense because we don’t even know his real relationships with those other people.. it was a bizarre get together.
I appreciate the effort video reviewers are putting into trying to take season 3’s ending seriously. I could not find enough material in it to treat it as such. It is straight up a mistake, period. Time-robbing, insulting to the viewers, insulting to the characters and the actors, undermining the meaning of everything they tried to establish beforehand so fully it makes even feeling angry about the ending feel like a waste of emotional energy. If they were going for “how can we write the worst ending in history”-congratulations, Netflix. You’re probably a finalist.
In my humble opinion,the third season of Ragnarok changed the whole root of the story. It demystified the characters and turned the fantasy /adventure genre of the series into psychological/ action kind of drama reducing the hype that had created the past seasons
Wow, I fully agree. I hated it. I was just dumbfounded when I started to watch the direction that the writers took with the story. Completely dissatisfied.
It could have been a good ending if it actually seemed like this was the plot the entire time. But it definitely seemed like they just didn't know how to end it so just all of a sudden decided it was in his head. If it played out like shutter Island where there were seeds planted along the way, clues and Easter eggs that you could go back and see how it was all a dilusion then it would have been a really good twist. But it would have been much better to just end it with a battle.
Another brilliant example is the Sixth Sense. It had all the hints throughout the movie and once you realise what’s really happening your stomach drops. People need to understand that just having a “plot twist” doesn’t automatically make it clever or innovative it just comes across as lazy and derivative.
man i binged all 3 seasons in 1 sitting and i will absolutely agree , they could have left it episode 5 and i would have recommended this show but the last episode just made this show a solid 4/10 .. what a waste of time
I would have loved if they had episode 5 and then had a dialogue showing where the gods and giants left the humans they were inhabiting. It would have made the final scene make sense.
I feel like this ending could have made sense if every scene had Magne in it. From where it showed other characters exhibiting the godlike/giantlike characteristics, it makes no sense that it was all in Magne's head. Also, what happened to Vidar? Did Magne just imagine killing him? Is Magne a murderer that was allowed to walk the streets? Same with the dog. An ending that would have made more sense would have been him envisioning Ragnarok at graduation. The characters having a hiccup as their god counterparts die showing that the gods inside them have died, but the human bodies live on. Then the characters go back to normal life with no recollection of the gods being in them. The past couple years had vague memories. They know each other and are friends with each other, but they don't know how. However, now they are free to live their normal human lives. The battle happened, but the peace truce is maintained. The whole in his head thing just does not make sense with all that happened during the show.
I guess Vidar died of a cardiac arrest. And magner just imagine the fight. But I guess the dog would have to be real because it was investigated by the police. So it jumped on him and he just imagined it attacking him.
@@kylemendoza8860a bunch of holes, if the viewer has to guess what happened to fix the bad writting then the tv show was a fail, the ending ruined the whole series!!
I pretty much watched the finale in a state of confusion once they started hinting the reveal and talking about symptoms and medication. Pretty much a "why are they doing this?" I wasn't even mad, angry or sad in the moment, just so utterly confused that I couldn't process how it was supposed to make sense. ALSO SHOW ME LIGHTNING! Did we get any Magne lightning in season 3???!!! (I don't count thunder when Magne breaks the truce.) Why did we have Wotan talk to Magne about Thor being the god of other things including weather if in the final confrontation he again, was just a hammer...
I choose to believe he's only convinced himself that it was all in his head so that he could move on with his life, especially now that he's with a human and after the vision of what could have been. I could see the show coming back years later with him needing to be reminded who he really is because of a new incoming threat; a plot similar to Men in Black II perhaps? Maybe him reading through the comics at the end was his way of finally seeing the inevitable tragedy and how it will always replay as long as there is war and not peace.
what truly tells that it was all in Magna head is that they show how the jutul house really looks like when he trash Thor books. and not only I feel I been manipulated, as I always thought I was looking a northern mythology in modern time, which was brillant, and not some schizophrenic kid's imagination. but with that, that leave door to so many things that just dont add up. what was real and what was not. did he really killed Vidar in from of his brother? did he really came with a hammer in season 3 ( now im guessing his toy hammer) and put them on their knees? did he really killed what is now. a regular dog and crack his jaw. with that, Magna is no longer the Thor we all thought he was, but a complete sociopath killer... and that make the show a complete joke.... WTH was the writers thinking. they should have leave it the ending at episode 5.....
Yeah, very disappointing. I have a question. Did Vidar really die? Killed by Magne? Since everything going on was in his head, why wasn't he charged if he killed Vidar?
Facts magna probably actually did kill Vidar in the end, but since there was going to be a season four or to confirm that any of it was actually real or not but because of Netflix wanting to cancel the show, the writers had to make an ending and say it was just only in Magnes head but there’s a lot of plot holes that say Ragnarok Is real it’s just Netflix cancel the show and so they had to write a shitty ending
They just don't care to explain that. Also, if everything was going on in his head then what about the scenes which he is not in. Are those people also hallucinating ? What a stupid ending.
It did happen! It did not all happen in his head. What you guys failed to understand in that ending is that all Magne had was a vision of what would've happened if the war did take place. The comics are literally only just based on a mythology story that no one really knows what happened in that reality and time, so they made it fiction. Everything DID happen, or else Vidar would be there. It's just like Alice from Twilight in the last film when she showed the vision of the war to show Aro what would happen if they fought. That's exactly what happened with Magne. I don't understand what's so hard to get about that. It obviously was too much for him. Think about it for a second. A comic book knows what these random people look like?
@@larrie9491I never thought of it like that? It makes everything in the Ragnarok show not that bad in fact it makes the story good this makes magna still Thor and that everything still happens thank you for this explanation I thought I would’ve never like the show again not knowing this😁
Interesting question, I imagine Netflix wanted the show to be brought to a conclusion so there would be no more talks of season 4. This puts a big fat nail in the coffin.
So he’s crazy and it’s all in his head? What about the snow plow and getting smashed at dayum near full speed with nothing broken, And it’s hard to say that he imagined that happening because Vidar goes home in disbelief that he’s still alive after being hit at that speed, and Magne isn’t around for that, so is this show supposed to make ME feel like I have schizophrenia
The ending is simply not canon, even if it was not canceled, I dare to say the writers are wrong. I believe Magne got his powers before Isolde death, if it was in his head how he could have done a 90 min trail in 30 min, he would not have met the mechanic, I dont remember seing him read the thor comics before ep 6, and if he was so passionated with norse mythology since his youth, he would’t have needed to ask his teacher about it… And how did Vidar died by the way? If this truly was the intended ending, well the writers failed with the story that came before… There was no emphasis or build up on a psychological ending (he is just dyslexic!) , before ep 6 during and during season 3, with more and more hints and incoherence from our perspective that would make the great reveal explain everything …
I am wondering - if the whole story was all in Magne's head - did he really kill Vidar? Wouldn't that mean he would be locked in an institution or prison?
It was all in his head, lol. There is no room for interpretation here, that ending was pretty clear he made it all up in his head. Such a terrible twist ending, so bad. Regret watching the series.
id like to propose a theory: everything that happened did happen. when magne proposed a truth, both the gods and giants reaped the benefits e.g. fjor getting with his secretary, saxa taking charge of the company, laurits finding love, magne reconciling with his friends etc. as for why the giants would want to keep this lifestyle, perhaps it’s because they have grown to appreciate humanity more. one example is when Ran consistently approaches the school councillor for emotional support, even though she is aware that he does not fully believe her fear of death by magnes hammer. or when Fjor desires to love a human more than he desires to kill, which was his primal instinct due to Vidar’s teachings. on top of that, they get to be alive, without fighting an impossible battle against the giants. the Gods are content with their lifestyle as well, e.g. Iman and the other guy both have jobs where they are happy , and Wotan as Odin finally sees peace and decides to leave it as it is. as for the Midgard Serpent Jormugandr ( Laurits tapeworm) perhaps it could actually have swam out of the Fjord and traversed into the deep oceans outside of Edda. after all it is well known that the ocean is still very much unknown to us, which brings the possibility that it could join the other unknown creatures that roam the oceanbed. as for the graduation scene, Magne did indeed hallucinate the war into real life, due to him reading about the comic version of the battle right before, and due to his awareness that someone was handling a bow outside the hall. however, in this universe the child didnt in fact somehow shoot the arrow directly at heimdall, and Laurits didnt go insane and wage war etc. hence nothing actually happened and the war did not spark. at the end , when Signy came to find Magne again, he faltered when he saw the love of his life. maybe it was then that he decided to put all of the powers and caution away, and to just enjoy life like any other teenager would. in conclusion: everything that happened did happen, just that both the Gods and Giants are now content and happy ( for now) and they decide to get along and live out this life with their human friends, and Ragnarok was averted( which is still something i didnt like) hence this theory can support these incidents: - Vidar did indeed kill Isolde - Ran did shoot the old lady who could transform into a raven - Magne did kill Vidar in his home, rather than Vidar dying of a heart attack - Fjor turned back from leaving with Gry due to the callings of his father through his Giant genes all the trial tests Magne did to test the extent of his abilities were real ( e.g. throwing a hammer across a football field, running sub 7 seconds in a 100m track, bending a metal bat in front of laurits, running down the mountain at an impossibly fast time etc. ) and they were not part of his hallucinations. again, this entire theory is just my way of coping with this incomprehensibly bad and anticlimactic finale of a once well written and genuinely interesting series.
I think it was a caused by Netflix and the budget. They needed to give it an end, but if you have no money for creative options like a great fight its quite hard. But the way they did it wasn´t good either. I mean the name "Ragnarok" is the greatest fight of the univerese, but we saw no hand-to-hand combat, just some One-Hit attacks. Very disappointing
Just watched it and I cannot believe this. Watching season 1 and 2 was so powerful and impactful and I was so excited going into this hoping for a great climax that had been building up. However everything went out the window nothing matter and there were no consequences on what had happened past 2 seasons. A major letdown and a shitstain that will be left on a show that had insane potential….
"ok guys we gonna have to make the fight happen ...nvm we broke lets have them drop the fight .....ah crap we need one more eps hey look we still got a lil bit of budget" *it was all a dream*
I've never had a show ending make me feel so empty and angry. The excitement, nostalgia, and inspiration I gained up until the last 2 episodes was unmatched. My heart is crushed right now. I feel emotionally fucked, I know its just a show but I was purely invested. I haven't had a show peak my interest like that ever. This writer did the viewers and actors a huge disservice. Was this the plan all along or was it rushed? This could've spanned for 5-6 seasons and made more money... How are they gonna write the most epic action/mystery show then last 2 episodes decide they wanna be someone bullshit knockoff Donnie Darko. I'm pissed lol.
I loved the end but i interpreted it differently. I didnt feel like it was all in his head. I felt like they prevented Ragnarok peacefully but Magne still hadnt let go of it all. When he finally did the Gods and Giants all became "dormant" and so he now believes it was all in his head.
I loved it and I took it as it was presented, that it was all a metaphor for his mental health struggles and greif. Absolutely prefer this ending to them repeating actual Ragnarok for some reason, I know I'm not in the majority though.
that doesn't explain many plot holes: 1. Who murdered the old couple and Fjor's assistant then? 2. Who dhit the boy in the eye with an arrow if it never happened because Magne had imagined everything? why the arrow looked ancient unlike the other arrows? 3. Did Magne threaten the Jutuls and live in their house? and if so...: what did he use since the hammer was not real? a gun or did that not happen either? 4. Why aren't the characters like Fjor Saxa and Freda emotionally enriched or developed? they were written in the third season in a very Manichean way when it would have been much more entertaining to see Saxa truly fall in love with Thor and give her life for him in the final battle and it would have been great to see Fjor being discovered by the police as a serial killer or maybe he could have gone crazy like in the movie American Psycho. 5. Why in season 2 was Saxa unable to hold the hammer because it was so heavy but in season 3 everyone could carry it? 6. What was Magne's brother doing throwing food if the worm never existed or did Magne also imagine that in his head?
Such a good show, so sad the writers said fuck it at the end and let the AI write the finish. Joking about the AI but this ending was so bad and out of left field that I can not believe anybody would take credit for it.
I was pissed at the ending.... To make it feel like magni to have all of this in his head royally pissed me off, extremely disappointed with the decision that they went with this. I waited an extra year-and-a-half to look forward to season 3 and they completely messed it up. I was looking forward to a showdown between magni and the giants. And it turns out that he was having hallucinations in his mind about the whole Town's folk... Which completely disregards the entire storyline that led up to it.
After watching season 3 I cant even watch s 1 and 2 again like I did all the time up until s 3 came out, because the ending just ruined it for me. It was genuinely my favourite show, but now when I tried to watch it back, I can pick everything about the whole story apart because it just doesnt make any sense to me that it would all be in Magnes head. That is all I can think about. And the fact that the WHOLE series is leading up to ragnarok, and is littearly what its all about, makes it even worse that it didnt happen. Im norwegian, and absolutely LOVE norse mythology. Thats why this show held a really special place in my heart, because its much more mythologically correct than any other show or movie Ive watched with this mythology is, like the marvel movies. Watching the season finale absolutely RUINED me, because for three fucking years I was waiting for ragnarok to happen. I feel like ep 6 was just a lazy way to end everything, and has completely changed my adoration for this series. The ending suggested in this video would have been so much better than the one we got. This series meant more to me than I could ever put into words, but now my mindset about Ragnarok has completely changed, and it doesnt feel the same anymore. It really makes me devastated, and is why I feel so strongly about how it all ended.
I honestly felt betrayed. Me and my brother had bought beers and popcorns to watch the final episode knowing that it's titled "Ragnarok". But after the first 20 mins of the episode I had to constantly check how much run time is left and ask ourselves " can they really show the war in 30 mins...20 mins? 10mins? Oh god I had hoped atleast last 5 mins of it will be the war. But goddamnit I had been tricked into watching a teen drama. I don't think I've ever felt this betrayed. Now when I think about the show and it's character my chest aches. I'm a sucker for mythological stories, magic and epic fantasy stuffs even if they have so many discrepancies and plot holes. But this, this was traumatising. Sorry about the rant. I agree with you. I'm not a fivehead, but I reckon even I could have written better ending than this.
2:45 I think he was carrying a regular ball peen hammer. Early in season 3 Turid says to Magne something like "You're carrying that hammer around everywhere, are you doing carpentry?" No sensible person would associate a giant mini sledge with carpentry. So my guess is that it was just a regular hammer, Like the family hammer he threw at Vidar's car in season 1. I can't remember if he ever got that hammer back though. And I also don't remember what happened to the fake Mjolnir he had the mechanic make. It really is super confusing. Like how did Magne kill Vidar and not get sent to prison. Maybe Vidar actually left on business and isn't actually dead? But Magne's self explanation was that he killed Vidar. I would love to see a supercut from the creators showing what was really happening but I know we'll never see that. And I absolutely love the cast but the people in charge seriously messed this up. I slightly had the ending spoiled for me and as I was watching I kept expecting to see Magne snap back to reality and he's been in a mental ward the whole time. And maybe all his friends were also checked in. And maybe Isolde was his nurse or w/e but she had to move away so Magne saw her die. And there were some hints to it all being in his head. In season 1 they diagnose him with paranoid schizophrenia. Turid tries to get him to take his medicine but he doesn't. Then that line they cut back to in season 2 where Laurits says "Maybe this battle is all in your head". I was really expecting to see Turid discover the god stuff and there would be a conflict where she would have to choose between Magne and Laurits and ultimately be unable to. Then Turid would be the one to bring Laurits and Magne back together. But Nothing even close to that happens.
Vidar's death? Saxa and Magne's relationship? His change of look, articulate speaking and seeing without glasses? EVERYTHING was on his head? Or just the final battle, for him to move on from Thor and be just Magne?
I don't think everything was in his head. All but final battle actually happened. Why would he even imagine things that extreme? Maybe he was not sure if everything settled down peacefully and was thus imagining what could happen further. The real battle from the beginning was between the giants and the people of Edda. As the giants accepted their wrong doings and changed themselves, things started settling and the situations calmed down. Also why on earth would giants agree to change their way of doing things if Magne wouldn't have put a battle along with others?
As a day one fan of the series I’m absolutely disappointed in how the series ended! I really can’t believe the writers did that I waited 2 years for this?!
I can’t believe they ended it this way but because of how abrupt it was, I think they definitely must have had to scramble to wrap it up when they were canceled 😭😭 because the first couple episode I feel like they were definitely going a completely different direction, I mean the title card on the episode about Saxa seducing magne mentioned how his mistress has his son and with how they make Laurits literally birth the serpent, why wouldn’t they make her actually get pregnant? I think the only way they could have pulled off this ending is if they made it so after the truce they did a spell or something so that everyone would literally forget and magne would think he hallucinated all of it, but maybe they didn’t have time to film that so they didn’t do that????????? There’s no way they planned that as the ending from even the beginning of this season because they could have done it so differently to hint at it not being real. I think they must have had their filming cut super short or something because it makes absolutely no sense. In my mind this “ending” was just a spell to ensure peace between the giants and gods, and magne had visions of what the battle would have been had they not made the truce, and maybe everyone gave up their immortality for the truce so now they all have to forget to be mortal. It just makes absolutely no sense why they would, even in the beginning of the finale episode, show so much that happens without magne there, and things magne has no knowledge of being shown on camera? because if this show was truly all in magnes head we wouldn’t have seen that because he’s supposed to be the unreliable narrator, so how could we be seeing things that didn’t “actually” happen and magne didn’t know about so how could he imagine it and also surprise him? I feel like they must have filmed even most of the 6th episode (the battle, the scene of the kid shooting the arrow, the beginning of the graduation) with a completely different ending but then got canceled and had to pivot to that being the final episode. I blame Netflix for canceling them because if they had meant for this ending from the start, or even the start of this seasons production, I just know they could have done it so much better.
Now that would be a great explanation. The spell that makes them forget would totally work. It would explain why they are together in the end and why magne imagins the final battle. We don't know what happened after they gave up their weapons. That should have been a reveal at the end.
This was Norways biggest show on Netflix, they didn’t have to scramble because they were cancelled, they had to scramble because they didn’t have enough money to make the show as good as it could’ve been. The show is called Ragnarok but they they didn’t have the budget to make the massive (or even small scale) battle it needed to have. They would have needed millions of dollars for CGI or practical effects, hundreds of extras, lots of expensive equipment, huge set pieces, specialists like pyro-technicians, lots of fights choreographers, loads of hair and makeup artists and even more costumes. Battle scenes aren’t cheap and if the show wanted to be good it needed a REALLY GOOD battle scene at least every season
When magne became power lusted it made since Thor in mythology was full of himself and seen the hammer as a person,neglected his family for the hammer too
I had a weird interpretation maybe. I thought maybe it was the schizophrenic thing. But in the moments when it’s being revealed that it was all in his head with all these cut scenes from the past, the boy Jutul (I forget his name) says how everything happens on a different plane of existence (if I recall correctly). So I thought that the gods and the giants powers and reality of that existed outside of the normal world , so they all existed in both. And the ragnarok visions were real, and it really happened. And the 9 steps he takes just kills the part of him that is Thor. And then he just returns to being normal old Magnus losing the ability to touch this other plane of existence anymore
Vidar is the weak point of the ending. A wife loses her husband to murderer, yet she is never ever calling the police? LOL. If I were doing the ending, Vidar would pop up from somewhere in the last scene, just like the paralympic champion suddendly had his hand back. :-)
I just can't get over the fact that I waited 2 years for such a lazy and disappointing ending. The third season was okay until the ending came to ruin the whole show. Ragnarok deserved better.
It's like you said: It feels like the screenwriters didn't know how to not let Magne die, as he should being Thor, so they escaped to the weakest solution there is: Ah, it was all only in his head.
all the fuckups that i can remember from the show after re watching it when season 3 came out (sorry for bad english i know there are a lot of mistakes but im not going to fix it so just ignore): magna is dysletstic but at the party in episode 5 or 6 he writres a text message perfectly, in sesason 2 after magna and saxa slept she couldnt pick up the hammer but in this season everyone played with it like a toy, fior murddered 3 inoccent people and thw writers just forgo about it, the time skips in the show never made sense and so is the age gaps between the brothers, they never told us wich god the guy that lost he arm became until episode 5 of season 3, the old guy in the wheelchair and hes freind just left the mental instatuion they were staying at for some reason and we were never told why and now they are a part of highschoolers friend group?? and thats just what i noticed whith out trying to point out the flaws and just trying to enjoy a good show until they ruined it in the last season.
Most if not all comments suggest they didn’t like the ending . However I loved it . Everyone did not see that coming which makes it great. Loved the scent where his fantasy merged with everyone else’s reality (the arrow shot). He was suffering with trauma over a death and imagined everything according to what he believed in his head . People here are having a tough time understanding this . Great entertainment.
There is one way they could rescue this, if they were to do a season 4 and start it out following the Giants, and show that they had somehow done something to effect the memories of the Gods and the people of the town to make Magne think he was just imagining the whole thing.
One of the basic things is his eye sight. How can he suddenly not need glasses? And all the things that happened when he wasn't around? What if it did happen? And the graduation was his fevered dream as he was dying. I'm gonna think of it that way. I'm sad at the ending.
I don’t know. For me the key was to not take it too seriously . There were many flaws in seasons 1 and 2 that having this finale where maybe everything was in his head was not a bad ending.
they did the same thing twice. last season we had to wait for magne to get his shit together. and then we had to do that again this season. season three was truly a letdown.
I truly think the ending was showing us not that everything was in his head but rather that Ragnarök didn't happen the way that it was written. Magne's character isn't Thor, as much as us or the hammer would want him to be, which is what I thought the major message of the season was. There is no way it was all in his head, it wouldn't explain his grades, the tourists, etc. I think the ending was him letting go of Thor's story, his history and responsibilities (and maybe also the labels put upon him by his parents and teachers) etc. After he throws away the comics he really starts to live as Magne, not as Thor. Thor's story is over, but that is not the case for Magne. I feel like the ending is a lot more complex and personal than what a satisfying fight could have given us.
The biggest problem with that issue is that the Jutul's we're all chummy in the end with them despite being at each other's throats for so long. And everything got to be too good to be true in the end.
@@1owaisahmad1 From a jutul perspective it makes sense if you have to chose between death or submission. Rest of story 100% wached with his mental issues
I actually loved the end. I was in shock but I felt it was really good and made sense with how goofy some of it was. It makes sense why no one else in town really knew about any of this going on.
Here's my take on the ending: Everything that happened in the show was real, and not just some imagination. Ragnarok came, but this time the Gods and the Giants chose peace. Magne, the other Gods and the Giants did feel their spiritual counterparts fight, seeing themselves dying in these visions. Thor did in fact die, along with everyone else, but the human representatives didn't thanks to the truce. During the graduation ceremony Thor left the body of Magne, leaving him to his own future. The same for everyone else. The comics were just a nod, that Magne was always meant to be a vessel for Thor.
Just finished watching Ragnarok and I'm baffled and disappointed. The show starts with a woman touching Magne's forehead, making his eyes spark with lightning-hinting at this epic, mythological world. Then they spend two seasons building it all up, only for us to find out it's all just in his imagination? It makes that initial scene and the whole story nonsensical. It's a complete betrayal to the fans who invested in this 'realistic fantasy.' Honestly, it's like if Harry Potter ended saying it was all a dream. Absolutely frustrating and disappointing. For my own peace of mind, I'm treating the fifth episode as the real ending and erasing this final twist from my memory.
I wouldn't be surprised if they had planned to continue the show past season 3, but Netflix wanted this to be the final season and thus they were forced to end it so weird and abruptly. It really did not feel like this was the ending that the previous seasons were building up to.
I started saying "No.... no no no no..." when I realized what was happening towards the end of the last episode. Actually couldn't believe I was watching an "it was all a dream LOL" ending. Kind of like watching a car crash unfold in real time with no power to do anything about it.
When watching the finale I didn't think it was in his mind and he was some psycho but my thoughts was Magne was thinking what could have happened if they didnt lay down they're weapons and this is what could have happened if they continued fighting which what we were shown on ep 6. Overall season 3 definitely started a avalanche of terrible writing
I was really disappointed with the ending. I was hoping for everyone to slowly turning into Gods they saw themselves as in the previous seasons. I felt like they could have done a few more seasons to explain some of the other characters in norse mythology. It really did feel like they to wrap this up and were like fuck it this will do. It really takes me out of the show now
I thought the ending was supposed to reveal what could have happened if they hadn't reached a truce. Presenting that this was all in Magne's head definitely doesn't work especially since we saw the story unfold from different points of view.
I have so much question!! What happened to that tapeworm? what happened to others gods? Why showing them separately? How did giant father died? This feels like a child has written the ending!!!
its like in the third season, all the fun and excitment was taken out, the writers changed from passionate about what they are writing for to conservative old people who think fantasy is a waste of time, and i mean its a show about thor, one of the most violent gods oat, and we got no violence in the end, one of the best shows became one of the worst so quickly. also how can u have a show about norse mythology, and especially RAGNORAK and have it ending with a and everyone lived happy ever after is bullshit and a horrible ending
I think it would have been a brilliant ending, if they had really eluded to him living in a fantasy world. They only had that one point where he visited a psychiatrist and got meds, but that was understandable, since no one would believe him to be Thor. The writers just wanted to write an easy ending. The same poo as GoT season 8.
if i ever have enough free time, i might fanedit season 3. by writing new english subtitles, one can entirely change the dialogue, story, and character motivations. such a project would involve rearranging scenes and removing chunks of video that don't fit the story. (i'd need at least a year or two to work on it as a hobby and still take care of real-world responsibilities.) wouldn't even think of fanediting this if season 3 had delivered the awesome sauce the first two seasons seemed to be cooking.
What did you think of the ending of Ragnarok season 3? Comment your thoughts below!
I hate when shows ultimately feel like they are betraying the audience. Building something up for a long time, only to handover a letdown. 😐😔
"It was all a hallucination" doesn't work if multiple characters went through stuff when Magne wasn't present. The principal had multiple sessions with the school counselor where she admitted everything: her kids aren't her kids, she was involved in multiple violent ends, etc.
So from wat I got out of it when I finished it. They were watching Sixth Sense and said hey let's hit them with a M. Knight Shyamalan ending.
My guess is that the show was greenlit for just one more season. So I think the writers had to come up with an ending. An there's no way that they could pull off an "actual Ragnarok" with very limited cast, low budget and resources. If you will look at it that way, then the show isn't so bad
It's similar to the movies A Monster Calls or I Kill Giants.
Magne killed his brother 😢
Holy hell this show started so good and ended so bad, glad to see others agree
Yeah it seems like a lot of opinions share the dissatisfied ending!
That ending really sucked
Sick
@@BrainPilot lol the ending!!!! The whole season 3 was absolute dog 💩
not jsut the ending though the whole season felt like it was pulling in 2 different directions with almost every character.
Game of Thrones: Worst ending ever for a TV Show.
RAGNAROK: HOLD MY BEER!!!
More like- Ragnarok: Hold My Mead.
More like RAGNAROK: Hold my Hammer
Or hold my tapeworm
Yea right you haven't seen lost then hold my tankard 😂
@1Soulboy no Lost went to shit well before the ending like season 4 or 5. You could say season 7 and 8 on GOT but they still could have stuck the landing. RAGNAROK made it 2 Seasons a 4/5 episodes into season 3. I didn't love episode 5 but could have been happy with it ending there. Literally 1 episode ruined the whole thing. 1 single episode made it all a waste of time.
I really thought it was weird that in season 2 when Saxa tried to take the hammer from Magne after she had been punished for being a traitor, the hammer was so heavy that she couldn't even pick it up but in season 3, they were passing it around like a game of Hot Potatoe
I didn’t catch that you’re right, damn
Exactly. In mythology.. the hammer was supposed to be so heavy that only Thor could lift it. They totally disregarded it. But it wouldn't work for the Giants after Fyor tried to throw it. Again completely disregarded seasons 1 & 2 after
@@fuel4insanity6 thats not mythology , thats marvel, in mythology there are other people who had lifted the hammer but only thor could use its powers as his true owner
Right?! They really messed it up...
@@GamingWithRicky97 he's right
It would have been a better ending, if Saxa was telling a story to her and Magne's child. Leaving it open to if it was real or not, and if it was real their child being the reason for peace.
thats a really good conclusion
That would've been amazing
Yeah that would have been very good!
YOU should have been the writer! ❤
saxa cant have children
I'm choosing to believe that that "hallucination scene" at Magne's graduation was him imagining how Ragnarok would have played out if he did not declare peace, not that all the events didn't happen. There were too many incidents throughout that cannot be explained by "imagination". Missing tourists on the river, how did that kid get an arrow in his eye, etc.
You just saved the ending for me. Thank you.
This was a good idea for most people until the creator confirmed that EVERYTHING was in his head.
@@adianjohnson3220you have a source for that? Couldn't find anything confirming the imagination version.
What about the jutuls house changing structure at the end when magna threw away his comic books?
Yeah that's exactly what I took from the ending.
Horrible ending, the actors were so damn good and deserved better.
Yeah they did and we did!
I honestly hope the actors that worked on this show can get hired for Vikings Valhalla so they can work on a Vikings themed Netflix show with writers that actually know what they’re doing and don’t cuck they’re audience just because they hit a writer’s block.
For a guy like me who's been watching this show for almost 2 years now, I feel like this show had great potential but was ruined by a lousy ending
It’s always a shame when the ending is what let’s it down!
The show was going alright but that ending ruined everything!
The whole season 3 was lousy. Very dissatisfied. The writing just took a turn for the worse.
I’m honestly irritated about the entire series it was a great show that I kept looking forward to when they released a season. Season 3 was heading in the right direction I thought I was finally going to see a cool snake battle or something but it never happens dude just threw the hammer once and that was it and to find out it was all in his head the entire 3 seasons is pathetic what a was of time.
When the show came out it had a special place in my heart, and when i saw that a 3th season was on it's way i was shocked and excited for months, and then the season finally came, now i don't know what to think no more, i am extremely disappointed and quite sad :/
Yeah it’s such a shame! It went in such a different direction!
SAME I was just Hella shocked this was all in his head due to the trauma of isolde dying.
@@brandongrimes4982 Yeah. If it was all in his head, then what happened to the giant dad that the mc killed??? This is just making me confused I was hoping for it to be better because it'll be the last season. I was also disappointed when they decided to make peace with the giants and no final battle.
@@Kai_Exploitsall that hype in the trailer just for it to be a Fantasy and you got me wondering too what happened to Vidar if he didnt die by Magne and the Axe???
Me too bro like wtf?? Waited so long than got a M Night Shamalamadingdong type ending.. so disappointed..
i am so sad that they ruined the show with a 'it was all in his head' we waited for two years for the final battle and they teased us so much for this and it was hardly any action
Yeah! If the snippets were a full out battle that was ‘real’ then it would have been so good!
Even the snippets were awful. It looked like something a student made. Unbelievable for a Netflix production
@@timn3864 100% convinced they ran out of budget and had to cut out all the expensive stuff till the point they ruined the show for it.
Only the final battle was in his head, all the other was real
@@brianginex4834nope, it was explained that he just imagined himself as thor
Absolutely agree, in movies like Fight Club, when you realise Tyler isn't actually real, you see flashbacks to scenes that show you what really happened, there are clues during the movie that you see and then it all makes sense. I didn't get any clues at all it was inside Magne's head, not until the very end of the show, so you've no idea what really happened. I would rather Netflix just cancelled the show after season 2 like they usually do and leave us all wondering rather than literally killing the show off completely with such a bad ending. I don't see myself ever watching this show again, it was so good seeing him throw that hammer for the first time, or seeing how fast he can run, but all of that isn't real now so its just pointless.
What about when they go hiking and he can see so much further ahead, was he just guessing?
What about when he left Isolde on the mountain, the police said he was back in town in 30 minutes when it usually takes 90, did he lie or did that conversation never take place, did he even go with her? You can pick the entire show to pieces now and it has ruined the entire show for me - extreme I know, but when you've waited years for another 6 episodes and this is what you get, its a bit frustrating.
Your post really nailed it. The example you gave of fight club was dead on.
You gave a perfect example of apart of what destroyed the dhow for us
I even dislike Fight Club as there is no way a "oh so it was all a dream" ending can be pulled of in a satisfying way. It's the definition of a bad ending. At least Fight Club hat some coherence to it. Other than that, I don't understand why so many people love it so much. We've seen this exact ending so many times already. But never has it been done so badly like in Ragnarok's case. I can't put into words how much I hate this series' ending. It was the worst possible ending done in the worst possible way.
@@FilmscoreMetaler in Fight Club Tyler was the alter ego, there are lots of subtle clues, like how Tyler doesn’t pay to get on the bus, he doesn’t set off any car alarms. There are lots of others too.
It makes sense with the ‘simple condo life’ theme because it’s the exact opposite.
There aren’t any scenes I can think of that are pointless once you know the ending, unlike Ragnorok.
This is typical of Netflix though. Look at long it’s taken for them to do Stranger Things, the cast will be in their 40’s by the time they put out another season.
@@NotTheMaestro Fair enough, maybe I need to re-watch Fight Club some day, however I'm in somewhat of a personal war with these kinds of twist endings. More often than not, everything you saw is recontextualized and retroactively becomes a waste of time. We've seen it in Identity, Machinist, Shutter Island, Vanilla Sky, Secret Window and so many others and not even once it did not feel like the shit ending it is.
Stranger Things could've ended at any given season. Every time they beat some boss level monster and closed the portals. Last season they wrapped up all the lore so it would have felt right to end it here. Nope, the group steps out just to see some more out-of-the-blue portals on the horizon. It's the same plot check points happening every season and they didn't even know where to direct their "story" back in this weird season 2 they never refered to again afterwards. Only Netflix series worth continuing watching is Cobra Kai. If they mess that one up, I'll leave their service for good.
They had everything
The characters
Set up
Everything
They literally messed it all up
FACTS
i’m still so sad
I can guarantee that not a single fan of season 1 and 2 could have guessed the show would end like it did, it's such a bummer
Yeah it was very unpredictable!
@@BrainPilot most of the time an unpredictable story makes it a great one but somehow they messed that up
didnt they had an episode where he was taken to the psych ward in season 1 or 2?
not really, the police just came over and gave him the school therapist. @@saixz6931
Here's a better ending for yall, the final battle is real after lokis bf gets shot in the graduation and loki goes evil and asks Magne why he didn't jump to catch it and also that the futul weren't the only giant's and ofc that the peace was fake and that the giant's were just waiting to attack magne and join loki
This season ending is why i have trust issues...
The first two seasons were strong and I was hooked. I was checking continuously when the 3rd season was coming…
Neither the fans nor the actors deserved this ending…
The ending definitely ruins the series by just implying that everything that happened in the series was just in Magne's head. The series was just better off with Magne being the reincarnated Thor that decided to peacefully resolve the issues with the giants, and finding a way to move on afterwards. Also, Magne being arrogant due to the power of the hammer isn't too farfetched, as for most of season 1 and 2, Magne was powerless or less powerful than the giants, but by the end of season 2, he now has the power to beat them. He does try to beat them without the hammer, but when that ultimately fails and he finally realizes that with the hammer he has them finally beaten, it just makes sense for the power to go to his head. Even Thor in Norse mythology had his moments of arrogance. In many ways, Magne in season 3 embodied the best and worst qualities of Thor, while also being somewhat different. Him choosing peace with the giants at the end is proof of how he differs from Thor. My personal head canon is that everything that happened was real, and Magne had a metaphorical Ragnarok battle to move on from being the reincarnated Thor, and just go on to be Magne.
Thats what i wish had actually happened instead of the writers just saying it was all in his head, have all the events be real but the final battle scenes we see at the graduation be essentially an alternate ending, what could have happened if they didnt put down their weapons
Yeah I have the same head canon as you, for my own sanity I refuse to believe it was all fake, the entire show literally makes zero sense if that were the case
It felt very political and intentional. The message: It was time for Magne to grow up, stop living in a fantasy and get a job at Juul Industries.
Thank you for wording my thoughts with such precision. Hope you have a great day
I want to tell myself that Ragnarok happened. The gods and giants died thus releasing the humans they were inhabiting to be free to live their lives as they chose to.
Agreed, the ending absolutely RUINED the show!! Not only was there no big satisfying battle to end things off, but it was all apparently *IN HIS HEAD* and not real?!
The show is called ragnorok. Yet it never took place…. Like. Bruh
@@diamondmaster2627I hope the continue it they still can
It did not all happen in his head. He had a vision of what would have happened if the war had taken place, triggered by the comics (which obviously did not really show their faces). That's all it was, just like Twilight BD part 2 with Alice. Peace was already made. I feel like I'm the only one who understood it was all just a vision simply made by him looking at the comics. The creators didn't even say it was all in his head, y'all just rolled with it. Vidor would've also came back.
@@larrie9491You're not the only one who got the finale. It was just shite. Like they didn't know how to end it. The entire season 3 felt off to me, like some other writers came and wrote it. It's not that people didn't get it, it was just a very unsatisfactory ending of a series that was good for 2 seasons.
@@jmzbondm ma'am or sir, if people did get it, then the comments would not be saying the same thing, including this one.
I really wanted to see magne and saxa as a couple they had amazing chemistry
They really did it's kind of pathetic how they didn't proceed with that
Right, it almost seems like they were setting it up that way. Third season was just not good.
Yes Saxa and Magne would have been a good ending 😂
@@thenaturalyogi5934 Yeah, if she was finally able to find the ability to love and feel things like her brother did, it would have been a good ending that they end up together. Not that dumb generic chic that they shoved down everyones throat, Season 3 starts and they're sleeping together, no relationship development whatsoever, they just show you that they are together and in love, lmao. Dumb.
Not only that, but an unforeseen pregnancy would have given enough material for at least two more seasons where it would be the two of them against everyone, because a child uniting the blood of the Gods and the Giants would have meant a threat to both groups. How did it happen? What power would that child have, and what group would he or she join?
The guy who created this show trolled us hard.
"Magne liked comic books"..not once was it shown or mentioned before ep 6 of season 3.
How did he not know about Thor if he read the comics!?! He had to ask about Thor from his teacher.
"It was all in his head"..so did he imagine his brother getting pregnant and the mom talking with a therapist? Why would he imagine that? Is he just a weirdo?
If he was crazy the entire time living in a made up fantasy world how did he manage to find an attractive girlfriend?
The ending showed him throwing away comic books and with that the "giants" house changed to normal. The creator of this show pretty much said that comic books and superhero shows are for children and you need to throw childish things away.
Ragnarok is 1/10 and not worth watching. It was a waste of time.
I think this bad plot twist wascreated already at season 3 development, the guy didnt have a clew at how to finish it, ot the badge to do a real war or fight scenes
@@kollen5952 Ah... the Ronald D Moore BSG song is the coordinates to Earth and Kara is an angel approach. What is it about the tail end of 3rd and 4th seasons of shows slated to end that has the creators suddenly in rush that that churn out something so sloppy? RDM at least had the writers strike to blame at the time.
I want an explanation of the creator about how schizophrenic heal Magne sight and made him faster and stronger XD
@@Mr1995Fabio heha this show makes no sense anymore. It's unwatchable.
So did Magne just straight up murder Vidar? How did Tyr lose his hand? He became Thor before Isolde died.....
This means that Magne threatens the Jutul family with a homemade hammer, making them change his school grades, pay for the coffee, let him sleep in his house, and eat all their food...
Killing the father of his brother...
And also this couldn't have been in his mind because when Weanchi (The old lady that gave the power) was there before Isolde died, the fact that Vidar was already killing monsters before Isolde died, only shows more plot holes...
Also, why did everyone was able to move Mjolnir like a toy when in season 2 Saxa said it was "too heavy to lift" and wasn't able to steal it from Magne...
It’s like they hired someone off the street to write the last season and they knew nothing about the show lol
It's not just the last episode. The whole season felt off. A lot of it felt cheesy, there were a lot of inconsistencies, the characters felt like different people. S1 and 2 had a completely different vibe, they were dark, gritty, mysterious, while this literally felt like a feel-good comic book story and the villains no longer even felt threatening and ominous like they did in previous seasons. Ran and Saxa were cunning and devious, this time they felt tame and weak. Fjor had the whole evil to redemption then back to evil arc and it was fully justified, he was supposed to be ignited and out for blood, yet he felt like a weak loser this season. Herman Tommeraas who plays him is a tremendous actor and I think they massively underutilized his entire role in this season. As for the heroes - they also lost all mystery to them. When Freya was introduce she felt mysterious and full of potential, now she's just someone on the side who didn't even really play a role. She was just there.
I don't think that "it was all in his head", because of the inconsistencies, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was still their intentions despite the inconsistencies, because you could find them all over the place. I also don't think it even matters, both endings regardless of if it was in his head or not are horrible.
Thank you, the finale was just the cap to a really bad season that just forgot what had happened the prior 2 seasons.
It must have been just in his head... because when he trows away his thor comics at the end, the Jutuls house changes structure to normal
@@MartiNReacTs Good point out, I had missed that.
You make a better argument than most of these people. Season 1 and Season 2 are great and a solid 8/10 show. It was atmospheric, mysterious, and had a great story with the Jutul's association with the town. Not to mention the entire Jutul family did a great job with their characters, especially Saxa and Fjor. I even feel some nostalgia watching the friendship between Magne and Isolde unfold and cause the eventual dynamics between gods and giants. A single episode shouldn't make a great TV show turn into a bad one, and most would agree that not all of season 3 was poorly written, but it was certainly the worst of the seasons, which doesn't say much.
I honestly thought that at the graduation, the arrow actually hit Jens (Baldur) and that's where Ragnarok would start. Going after the whole "One often meets his Fate on the same path he takes to avoid it" thing. It could have been perfect. There was generally still a lot of potential left in the show. Great actors, good ideas. They were on their way to have imo the best Thor portray ever (maybe after gow Thor)... Sucks that it essentially just got thrown out the windows.
Yeees it would have been so cool if it rlly had started at the graduation
I thought the arrow shot by Ran in ep 4 would hit Jens, it would make sense (even if in mythology Baldur was accidentally killed by Loki). But injuring a random kid was also kind of nonsense
@@sofiam50 I thought they tried to make that kid a new god or smth, but that was totally missed, what god was he supposed to be, what was the purpose of that arrow... I don't really get it, it seems like writers wrote the script up to that point and said screw it, too lazy to write another season.
@@milandragacevache was the god that killed baldur in the myth. They had the same name.
@@oliverrasmusson2362 What name? Loki?
I also don't get why Fjor killed his new accountant, Marianne.
Tell me you wanted to ruin a show without telling me you wanted to….Ragnarok says challenge accepted!!!
Those first two seasons were incredible.
They were!
The first season where Magnes mother scolds him for living in a fantasy world had both Magne and us questioning his sanity. The fact they went away from this back then, but still ended with everything just being in his head is just moving the story backwards to the beginning
All the adults tried to convince Magne he was delusional in s1 but then a convo with Fjor let him know that he didn't make it up. And then two seasons later it turns out Magne made it up after all...?
lol so foreshadowing is bad now?
@@Trashalchemy It's not foreshadowing if they completely abandon the idea and then go back to that route without any hints or payoff.
@@nuclearwessels2078 There were so many hints! The whole story was told in third person by a dead girl who at that point only existed in Magne's head. Isolde narrated the whole thing.
There's a difference between foreshadowing and slapping a random ending in. Imo foreshadowing has to be super consistent to the point where you can track the threads across the seasons--otherwise it's poor writing.@@Trashalchemy I guess to me, the threads weren't consistent enough throughout the show that this was all in Magne's head.
I'm almost willing to bet that the reason why the ending was this way had something to do with Netflix itself. I would assume they cut the budget too much, or even cancelled a potential 4th season.
It was planned as a 3-seasom show
Exactly, I feel like even if they planned for this to be the last season I think they had a different plan for the ending while filming most of the episodes and then Netflix probably cut their filming super short and so they had to scramble for an ending that wouldn’t require as much filming, like maybe they already had the battle filmed and wanted the graduation to kick it off, but then got cut short so had to use the graduation scene to intercut with the battle being in his head. With how good the previous seasons were I feel like if they had planned this ending from even the beginning of writing season 3, they could have done it so much better.
I agree, I think that the original intention was for the fight end in peace like they showed, but that another big bad was going to show up for an epic 4th season ending. Third season and it's finale were just terrible.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't just all in his head, I think it was just him playing out what could have happened if he continued going down the route he was going. They just got greedy and tried to make the bad ending a good ending so nobody complained but they just ruined it by doing that
but how do you explain the Jutul house changing after Magne threw his comics away?
Exactly New age bullshit - lets avoid violence... like did yal forget you were writing a series about Thor?????
Like many other people have said, the whole graduation/imagination scene doesn't explain how some scenes happened earlier like that kid getting shot in the eye or Magne being acknowledged that he has super strength by another person in the first season. It created a lot of plot holes. I want to believe everything else was real and only the last battle played out in his mind.
With this kind of plot twist, there should’ve been overlapping scenes of what’s in his head vs hinting at reality which is him being schizophrenic. There should’ve been hints of reality. But what we got was just… “it was all in his head”. So the end scene of them taking part in drinking and having a meal together did not make a lick of sense because we don’t even know his real relationships with those other people.. it was a bizarre get together.
I appreciate the effort video reviewers are putting into trying to take season 3’s ending seriously. I could not find enough material in it to treat it as such. It is straight up a mistake, period. Time-robbing, insulting to the viewers, insulting to the characters and the actors, undermining the meaning of everything they tried to establish beforehand so fully it makes even feeling angry about the ending feel like a waste of emotional energy.
If they were going for “how can we write the worst ending in history”-congratulations, Netflix. You’re probably a finalist.
Can't believe they did that. It was such a cop out. Absolutely horrible
Yeah it's such a shame
Just finished season three and I am so pissed. I feel incomplete. I'm soooooo upset. I feel like I've wasted 3 years of my life
In my humble opinion,the third season of Ragnarok changed the whole root of the story. It demystified the characters and turned the fantasy /adventure genre of the series into psychological/ action kind of drama reducing the hype that had created the past seasons
Wow, I fully agree. I hated it. I was just dumbfounded when I started to watch the direction that the writers took with the story. Completely dissatisfied.
@@robmen1402 I totally agree with you.
It could have been a good ending if it actually seemed like this was the plot the entire time. But it definitely seemed like they just didn't know how to end it so just all of a sudden decided it was in his head.
If it played out like shutter Island where there were seeds planted along the way, clues and Easter eggs that you could go back and see how it was all a dilusion then it would have been a really good twist. But it would have been much better to just end it with a battle.
Another brilliant example is the Sixth Sense. It had all the hints throughout the movie and once you realise what’s really happening your stomach drops. People need to understand that just having a “plot twist” doesn’t automatically make it clever or innovative it just comes across as lazy and derivative.
man i binged all 3 seasons in 1 sitting and i will absolutely agree , they could have left it episode 5 and i would have recommended this show but the last episode just made this show a solid 4/10 .. what a waste of time
I would have loved if they had episode 5 and then had a dialogue showing where the gods and giants left the humans they were inhabiting. It would have made the final scene make sense.
I feel like this ending could have made sense if every scene had Magne in it. From where it showed other characters exhibiting the godlike/giantlike characteristics, it makes no sense that it was all in Magne's head. Also, what happened to Vidar? Did Magne just imagine killing him? Is Magne a murderer that was allowed to walk the streets? Same with the dog. An ending that would have made more sense would have been him envisioning Ragnarok at graduation. The characters having a hiccup as their god counterparts die showing that the gods inside them have died, but the human bodies live on. Then the characters go back to normal life with no recollection of the gods being in them. The past couple years had vague memories. They know each other and are friends with each other, but they don't know how. However, now they are free to live their normal human lives. The battle happened, but the peace truce is maintained. The whole in his head thing just does not make sense with all that happened during the show.
I guess Vidar died of a cardiac arrest. And magner just imagine the fight. But I guess the dog would have to be real because it was investigated by the police. So it jumped on him and he just imagined it attacking him.
@@kylemendoza8860a bunch of holes, if the viewer has to guess what happened to fix the bad writting then the tv show was a fail, the ending ruined the whole series!!
I pretty much watched the finale in a state of confusion once they started hinting the reveal and talking about symptoms and medication. Pretty much a "why are they doing this?" I wasn't even mad, angry or sad in the moment, just so utterly confused that I couldn't process how it was supposed to make sense.
ALSO SHOW ME LIGHTNING! Did we get any Magne lightning in season 3???!!! (I don't count thunder when Magne breaks the truce.)
Why did we have Wotan talk to Magne about Thor being the god of other things including weather if in the final confrontation he again, was just a hammer...
Ragnarok is another example of netflix ruining its good shows
I waited 3 years for Ragnarok and all I got was regurgated Fight club and Shutter island
I choose to believe he's only convinced himself that it was all in his head so that he could move on with his life, especially now that he's with a human and after the vision of what could have been. I could see the show coming back years later with him needing to be reminded who he really is because of a new incoming threat; a plot similar to Men in Black II perhaps? Maybe him reading through the comics at the end was his way of finally seeing the inevitable tragedy and how it will always replay as long as there is war and not peace.
This!!!!
what truly tells that it was all in Magna head is that they show how the jutul house really looks like when he trash Thor books. and not only I feel I been manipulated, as I always thought I was looking a northern mythology in modern time, which was brillant, and not some schizophrenic kid's imagination. but with that, that leave door to so many things that just dont add up. what was real and what was not. did he really killed Vidar in from of his brother? did he really came with a hammer in season 3 ( now im guessing his toy hammer) and put them on their knees? did he really killed what is now. a regular dog and crack his jaw.
with that, Magna is no longer the Thor we all thought he was, but a complete sociopath killer... and that make the show a complete joke.... WTH was the writers thinking. they should have leave it the ending at episode 5.....
right?? it was all so great up until episode 5 i'm gonna pretend season 3 only had 5 episodes
His name is Magne with e in the end not a.
Yeah, very disappointing. I have a question. Did Vidar really die? Killed by Magne? Since everything going on was in his head, why wasn't he charged if he killed Vidar?
Facts magna probably actually did kill Vidar in the end, but since there was going to be a season four or to confirm that any of it was actually real or not but because of Netflix wanting to cancel the show, the writers had to make an ending and say it was just only in Magnes head but there’s a lot of plot holes that say Ragnarok Is real it’s just Netflix cancel the show and so they had to write a shitty ending
They just don't care to explain that. Also, if everything was going on in his head then what about the scenes which he is not in. Are those people also hallucinating ? What a stupid ending.
It did happen! It did not all happen in his head. What you guys failed to understand in that ending is that all Magne had was a vision of what would've happened if the war did take place. The comics are literally only just based on a mythology story that no one really knows what happened in that reality and time, so they made it fiction. Everything DID happen, or else Vidar would be there. It's just like Alice from Twilight in the last film when she showed the vision of the war to show Aro what would happen if they fought. That's exactly what happened with Magne. I don't understand what's so hard to get about that. It obviously was too much for him. Think about it for a second. A comic book knows what these random people look like?
@@larrie9491I never thought of it like that? It makes everything in the Ragnarok show not that bad in fact it makes the story good this makes magna still Thor and that everything still happens thank you for this explanation I thought I would’ve never like the show again not knowing this😁
@@Flymanningaddo6187 yep🤗
There is one question I have, is this the fault of Netflix canceling the show or is this actually how the writers wanted to end the show?
Interesting question, I imagine Netflix wanted the show to be brought to a conclusion so there would be no more talks of season 4. This puts a big fat nail in the coffin.
Adam Price said in an interview that it had been planned as a 3-season show from the start
@@sfinn85 link to interview?
It's how the writers did it for once netflix isn't at fault lol
I wonder if they cut the final season short so they had to go a different route.
So he’s crazy and it’s all in his head? What about the snow plow and getting smashed at dayum near full speed with nothing broken,
And it’s hard to say that he imagined that happening because Vidar goes home in disbelief that he’s still alive after being hit at that speed, and Magne isn’t around for that, so is this show supposed to make ME feel like I have schizophrenia
I wish we could have an alternative ending
They kinda gave you that by actually showing the Ragnarok battle and Thor getting stung by the midgard serpent.
The ending is simply not canon, even if it was not canceled, I dare to say the writers are wrong.
I believe Magne got his powers before Isolde death, if it was in his head how he could have done a 90 min trail in 30 min, he would not have met the mechanic, I dont remember seing him read the thor comics before ep 6, and if he was so passionated with norse mythology since his youth, he would’t have needed to ask his teacher about it… And how did Vidar died by the way?
If this truly was the intended ending, well the writers failed with the story that came before… There was no emphasis or build up on a psychological ending (he is just dyslexic!) , before ep 6 during and during season 3, with more and more hints and incoherence from our perspective that would make the great reveal explain everything …
I am wondering - if the whole story was all in Magne's head - did he really kill Vidar? Wouldn't that mean he would be locked in an institution or prison?
I thought the same... so many loose ends, It feels like that ending was a sudden change of mind.
It was all in his head, lol. There is no room for interpretation here, that ending was pretty clear he made it all up in his head. Such a terrible twist ending, so bad. Regret watching the series.
id like to propose a theory:
everything that happened did happen. when magne proposed a truth, both the gods and giants reaped the benefits e.g. fjor getting with his secretary, saxa taking charge of the company, laurits finding love, magne reconciling with his friends etc.
as for why the giants would want to keep this lifestyle, perhaps it’s because they have grown to appreciate humanity more. one example is when Ran consistently approaches the school councillor for emotional support, even though she is aware that he does not fully believe her fear of death by magnes hammer. or when Fjor desires to love a human more than he desires to kill, which was his primal instinct due to Vidar’s teachings. on top of that, they get to be alive, without fighting an impossible battle against the giants.
the Gods are content with their lifestyle as well, e.g. Iman and the other guy both have jobs where they are happy , and Wotan as Odin finally sees peace and decides to leave it as it is.
as for the Midgard Serpent Jormugandr ( Laurits tapeworm) perhaps it could actually have swam out of the Fjord and traversed into the deep oceans outside of Edda. after all it is well known that the ocean is still very much unknown to us, which brings the possibility that it could join the other unknown creatures that roam the oceanbed.
as for the graduation scene, Magne did indeed hallucinate the war into real life, due to him reading about the comic version of the battle right before, and due to his awareness that someone was handling a bow outside the hall.
however, in this universe the child didnt in fact somehow shoot the arrow directly at heimdall, and Laurits didnt go insane and wage war etc. hence nothing actually happened and the war did not spark.
at the end , when Signy came to find Magne again, he faltered when he saw the love of his life. maybe it was then that he decided to put all of the powers and caution away, and to just enjoy life like any other teenager would.
in conclusion: everything that happened did happen, just that both the Gods and Giants are now content and happy ( for now) and they decide to get along and live out this life with their human friends, and Ragnarok was averted( which is still something i didnt like)
hence this theory can support these incidents:
- Vidar did indeed kill Isolde
- Ran did shoot the old lady who could transform into a raven
- Magne did kill Vidar in his home, rather than Vidar dying of a heart attack
- Fjor turned back from leaving with Gry due to the callings of his father through his Giant genes
all the trial tests Magne did to test the extent of his abilities were real ( e.g. throwing a hammer across a football field, running sub 7 seconds in a 100m track, bending a metal bat in front of laurits, running down the mountain at an impossibly fast time etc. ) and they were not part of his hallucinations.
again, this entire theory is just my way of coping with this incomprehensibly bad and anticlimactic finale of a once well written and genuinely interesting series.
I think it was a caused by Netflix and the budget. They needed to give it an end, but if you have no money for creative options like a great fight its quite hard. But the way they did it wasn´t good either. I mean the name "Ragnarok" is the greatest fight of the univerese, but we saw no hand-to-hand combat, just some One-Hit attacks. Very disappointing
Literally not one time did mojnir get used properly and produced lightning 😭 he only throws it 😦
5 and 1/2 episodes were good then this happened. Felt like someone sabotaged the ending for some reason.
Yeah the final 30 transformed it didn’t it
Just watched it and I cannot believe this. Watching season 1 and 2 was so powerful and impactful and I was so excited going into this hoping for a great climax that had been building up. However everything went out the window nothing matter and there were no consequences on what had happened past 2 seasons. A major letdown and a shitstain that will be left on a show that had insane potential….
"ok guys we gonna have to make the fight happen ...nvm we broke lets have them drop the fight .....ah crap we need one more eps hey look we still got a lil bit of budget" *it was all a dream*
I've never had a show ending make me feel so empty and angry. The excitement, nostalgia, and inspiration I gained up until the last 2 episodes was unmatched. My heart is crushed right now. I feel emotionally fucked, I know its just a show but I was purely invested. I haven't had a show peak my interest like that ever. This writer did the viewers and actors a huge disservice. Was this the plan all along or was it rushed? This could've spanned for 5-6 seasons and made more money... How are they gonna write the most epic action/mystery show then last 2 episodes decide they wanna be someone bullshit knockoff Donnie Darko. I'm pissed lol.
Not only was the ending bad, it ruined the whole show
The moment it was shown like oh it’s all in the comics and his head just was a sucker punch to every diehard fan of the series
Tq guys. Just started the season 3. You guys have saved my bit of portion of my life. 😅.
I loved the end but i interpreted it differently. I didnt feel like it was all in his head. I felt like they prevented Ragnarok peacefully but Magne still hadnt let go of it all. When he finally did the Gods and Giants all became "dormant" and so he now believes it was all in his head.
I loved it and I took it as it was presented, that it was all a metaphor for his mental health struggles and greif. Absolutely prefer this ending to them repeating actual Ragnarok for some reason, I know I'm not in the majority though.
Grief*
that doesn't explain many plot holes:
1. Who murdered the old couple and Fjor's assistant then?
2. Who dhit the boy in the eye with an arrow if it never happened because Magne had imagined everything? why the arrow looked ancient unlike the other arrows?
3. Did Magne threaten the Jutuls and live in their house? and if so...: what did he use since the hammer was not real? a gun or did that not happen either?
4. Why aren't the characters like Fjor Saxa and Freda emotionally enriched or developed? they were written in the third season in a very Manichean way when it would have been much more entertaining to see Saxa truly fall in love with Thor and give her life for him in the final battle and it would have been great to see Fjor being discovered by the police as a serial killer or maybe he could have gone crazy like in the movie American Psycho.
5. Why in season 2 was Saxa unable to hold the hammer because it was so heavy but in season 3 everyone could carry it?
6. What was Magne's brother doing throwing food if the worm never existed or did Magne also imagine that in his head?
Its endings like this that makes a show loose rewatchability. No reason to binge this series now.
You can. Just don’t watch the last episode. The show ended for me on episode 5
Such a good show, so sad the writers said fuck it at the end and let the AI write the finish. Joking about the AI but this ending was so bad and out of left field that I can not believe anybody would take credit for it.
as an adhd man this was a waste of my sleepless nights
I was pissed at the ending.... To make it feel like magni to have all of this in his head royally pissed me off, extremely disappointed with the decision that they went with this. I waited an extra year-and-a-half to look forward to season 3 and they completely messed it up. I was looking forward to a showdown between magni and the giants. And it turns out that he was having hallucinations in his mind about the whole Town's folk... Which completely disregards the entire storyline that led up to it.
That ending disappointed me so much. I was like wtf. Now there isn’t going to be a season 4 for sure. That ending was so not it.
Yeah, it's gutting that it ended the way that it did!
After watching season 3 I cant even watch s 1 and 2 again like I did all the time up until s 3 came out, because the ending just ruined it for me. It was genuinely my favourite show, but now when I tried to watch it back, I can pick everything about the whole story apart because it just doesnt make any sense to me that it would all be in Magnes head. That is all I can think about. And the fact that the WHOLE series is leading up to ragnarok, and is littearly what its all about, makes it even worse that it didnt happen. Im norwegian, and absolutely LOVE norse mythology. Thats why this show held a really special place in my heart, because its much more mythologically correct than any other show or movie Ive watched with this mythology is, like the marvel movies.
Watching the season finale absolutely RUINED me, because for three fucking years I was waiting for ragnarok to happen. I feel like ep 6 was just a lazy way to end everything, and has completely changed my adoration for this series. The ending suggested in this video would have been so much better than the one we got.
This series meant more to me than I could ever put into words, but now my mindset about Ragnarok has completely changed, and it doesnt feel the same anymore. It really makes me devastated, and is why I feel so strongly about how it all ended.
Same bro. I watched season one probably 10 times, season 2 was kind of a let down but this was horrible
I honestly felt betrayed. Me and my brother had bought beers and popcorns to watch the final episode knowing that it's titled "Ragnarok". But after the first 20 mins of the episode I had to constantly check how much run time is left and ask ourselves " can they really show the war in 30 mins...20 mins? 10mins? Oh god I had hoped atleast last 5 mins of it will be the war. But goddamnit I had been tricked into watching a teen drama.
I don't think I've ever felt this betrayed.
Now when I think about the show and it's character my chest aches. I'm a sucker for mythological stories, magic and epic fantasy stuffs even if they have so many discrepancies and plot holes. But this, this was traumatising. Sorry about the rant.
I agree with you. I'm not a fivehead, but I reckon even I could have written better ending than this.
2:45 I think he was carrying a regular ball peen hammer.
Early in season 3 Turid says to Magne something like "You're carrying that hammer around everywhere, are you doing carpentry?"
No sensible person would associate a giant mini sledge with carpentry. So my guess is that it was just a regular hammer, Like the family hammer he threw at Vidar's car in season 1. I can't remember if he ever got that hammer back though. And I also don't remember what happened to the fake Mjolnir he had the mechanic make.
It really is super confusing. Like how did Magne kill Vidar and not get sent to prison. Maybe Vidar actually left on business and isn't actually dead? But Magne's self explanation was that he killed Vidar.
I would love to see a supercut from the creators showing what was really happening but I know we'll never see that. And I absolutely love the cast but the people in charge seriously messed this up.
I slightly had the ending spoiled for me and as I was watching I kept expecting to see Magne snap back to reality and he's been in a mental ward the whole time. And maybe all his friends were also checked in. And maybe Isolde was his nurse or w/e but she had to move away so Magne saw her die.
And there were some hints to it all being in his head. In season 1 they diagnose him with paranoid schizophrenia. Turid tries to get him to take his medicine but he doesn't.
Then that line they cut back to in season 2 where Laurits says "Maybe this battle is all in your head".
I was really expecting to see Turid discover the god stuff and there would be a conflict where she would have to choose between Magne and Laurits and ultimately be unable to. Then Turid would be the one to bring Laurits and Magne back together. But Nothing even close to that happens.
I like to think that the ending of the show was episode five and think of episode six as kind of a what, if episode
That’s one way to definitely look at it!
Vidar's death? Saxa and Magne's relationship? His change of look, articulate speaking and seeing without glasses? EVERYTHING was on his head?
Or just the final battle, for him to move on from Thor and be just Magne?
Did he kill Jutul’s dad???? Like did he do a murder?
I don't think everything was in his head. All but final battle actually happened. Why would he even imagine things that extreme? Maybe he was not sure if everything settled down peacefully and was thus imagining what could happen further. The real battle from the beginning was between the giants and the people of Edda. As the giants accepted their wrong doings and changed themselves, things started settling and the situations calmed down.
Also why on earth would giants agree to change their way of doing things if Magne wouldn't have put a battle along with others?
As a day one fan of the series I’m absolutely disappointed in how the series ended! I really can’t believe the writers did that I waited 2 years for this?!
I can’t believe they ended it this way but because of how abrupt it was, I think they definitely must have had to scramble to wrap it up when they were canceled 😭😭 because the first couple episode I feel like they were definitely going a completely different direction, I mean the title card on the episode about Saxa seducing magne mentioned how his mistress has his son and with how they make Laurits literally birth the serpent, why wouldn’t they make her actually get pregnant? I think the only way they could have pulled off this ending is if they made it so after the truce they did a spell or something so that everyone would literally forget and magne would think he hallucinated all of it, but maybe they didn’t have time to film that so they didn’t do that????????? There’s no way they planned that as the ending from even the beginning of this season because they could have done it so differently to hint at it not being real. I think they must have had their filming cut super short or something because it makes absolutely no sense. In my mind this “ending” was just a spell to ensure peace between the giants and gods, and magne had visions of what the battle would have been had they not made the truce, and maybe everyone gave up their immortality for the truce so now they all have to forget to be mortal. It just makes absolutely no sense why they would, even in the beginning of the finale episode, show so much that happens without magne there, and things magne has no knowledge of being shown on camera? because if this show was truly all in magnes head we wouldn’t have seen that because he’s supposed to be the unreliable narrator, so how could we be seeing things that didn’t “actually” happen and magne didn’t know about so how could he imagine it and also surprise him? I feel like they must have filmed even most of the 6th episode (the battle, the scene of the kid shooting the arrow, the beginning of the graduation) with a completely different ending but then got canceled and had to pivot to that being the final episode. I blame Netflix for canceling them because if they had meant for this ending from the start, or even the start of this seasons production, I just know they could have done it so much better.
Now that would be a great explanation. The spell that makes them forget would totally work. It would explain why they are together in the end and why magne imagins the final battle. We don't know what happened after they gave up their weapons. That should have been a reveal at the end.
This was Norways biggest show on Netflix, they didn’t have to scramble because they were cancelled, they had to scramble because they didn’t have enough money to make the show as good as it could’ve been.
The show is called Ragnarok but they they didn’t have the budget to make the massive (or even small scale) battle it needed to have. They would have needed millions of dollars for CGI or practical effects, hundreds of extras, lots of expensive equipment, huge set pieces, specialists like pyro-technicians, lots of fights choreographers, loads of hair and makeup artists and even more costumes. Battle scenes aren’t cheap and if the show wanted to be good it needed a REALLY GOOD battle scene at least every season
When magne became power lusted it made since Thor in mythology was full of himself and seen the hammer as a person,neglected his family for the hammer too
I had a weird interpretation maybe. I thought maybe it was the schizophrenic thing. But in the moments when it’s being revealed that it was all in his head with all these cut scenes from the past, the boy Jutul (I forget his name) says how everything happens on a different plane of existence (if I recall correctly). So I thought that the gods and the giants powers and reality of that existed outside of the normal world , so they all existed in both. And the ragnarok visions were real, and it really happened. And the 9 steps he takes just kills the part of him that is Thor. And then he just returns to being normal old Magnus losing the ability to touch this other plane of existence anymore
Vidar is the weak point of the ending. A wife loses her husband to murderer, yet she is never ever calling the police? LOL. If I were doing the ending, Vidar would pop up from somewhere in the last scene, just like the paralympic champion suddendly had his hand back. :-)
That's what I'm going with in my head. The gods and giants died, and the humans are just regular humans now.
@@mmiYTBAnd Isolde was there celebrating too.
I just can't get over the fact that I waited 2 years for such a lazy and disappointing ending. The third season was okay until the ending came to ruin the whole show. Ragnarok deserved better.
i agree i felt veeeeery dissapointed
Yeah it’s such a shame!
It's like you said: It feels like the screenwriters didn't know how to not let Magne die, as he should being Thor, so they escaped to the weakest solution there is: Ah, it was all only in his head.
Only the final battle happened in his head. The rest happened in the actual world
I feel the entire show happened inside of his head
all the fuckups that i can remember from the show after re watching it when season 3 came out (sorry for bad english i know there are a lot of mistakes but im not going to fix it so just ignore): magna is dysletstic but at the party in episode 5 or 6 he writres a text message perfectly, in sesason 2 after magna and saxa slept she couldnt pick up the hammer but in this season everyone played with it like a toy, fior murddered 3 inoccent people and thw writers just forgo about it, the time skips in the show never made sense and so is the age gaps between the brothers, they never told us wich god the guy that lost he arm became until episode 5 of season 3, the old guy in the wheelchair and hes freind just left the mental instatuion they were staying at for some reason and we were never told why and now they are a part of highschoolers friend group?? and thats just what i noticed whith out trying to point out the flaws and just trying to enjoy a good show until they ruined it in the last season.
Most if not all comments suggest they didn’t like the ending . However I loved it . Everyone did not see that coming which makes it great. Loved the scent where his fantasy merged with everyone else’s reality (the arrow shot). He was suffering with trauma over a death and imagined everything according to what he believed in his head . People here are having a tough time understanding this .
Great entertainment.
There is one way they could rescue this, if they were to do a season 4 and start it out following the Giants, and show that they had somehow done something to effect the memories of the Gods and the people of the town to make Magne think he was just imagining the whole thing.
One of the basic things is his eye sight. How can he suddenly not need glasses? And all the things that happened when he wasn't around? What if it did happen? And the graduation was his fevered dream as he was dying. I'm gonna think of it that way. I'm sad at the ending.
I don’t know. For me the key was to not take it too seriously . There were many flaws in seasons 1 and 2 that having this finale where maybe everything was in his head was not a bad ending.
Agreed, actually quite well thought out. Everyone looking for that final showdown but this twist made it bitter sweet.
they did the same thing twice. last season we had to wait for magne to get his shit together. and then we had to do that again this season. season three was truly a letdown.
I truly think the ending was showing us not that everything was in his head but rather that Ragnarök didn't happen the way that it was written. Magne's character isn't Thor, as much as us or the hammer would want him to be, which is what I thought the major message of the season was. There is no way it was all in his head, it wouldn't explain his grades, the tourists, etc. I think the ending was him letting go of Thor's story, his history and responsibilities (and maybe also the labels put upon him by his parents and teachers) etc. After he throws away the comics he really starts to live as Magne, not as Thor. Thor's story is over, but that is not the case for Magne. I feel like the ending is a lot more complex and personal than what a satisfying fight could have given us.
The biggest problem with that issue is that the Jutul's we're all chummy in the end with them despite being at each other's throats for so long. And everything got to be too good to be true in the end.
@@1owaisahmad1 From a jutul perspective it makes sense if you have to chose between death or submission. Rest of story 100% wached with his mental issues
Been questioning my own reality since this happened
I actually loved the end. I was in shock but I felt it was really good and made sense with how goofy some of it was. It makes sense why no one else in town really knew about any of this going on.
Here's my take on the ending:
Everything that happened in the show was real, and not just some imagination. Ragnarok came, but this time the Gods and the Giants chose peace. Magne, the other Gods and the Giants did feel their spiritual counterparts fight, seeing themselves dying in these visions. Thor did in fact die, along with everyone else, but the human representatives didn't thanks to the truce. During the graduation ceremony Thor left the body of Magne, leaving him to his own future. The same for everyone else. The comics were just a nod, that Magne was always meant to be a vessel for Thor.
If you have a show called Ragnarok, figure out your ragnarok before anything else. Just a shame.
Just finished watching Ragnarok and I'm baffled and disappointed. The show starts with a woman touching Magne's forehead, making his eyes spark with lightning-hinting at this epic, mythological world. Then they spend two seasons building it all up, only for us to find out it's all just in his imagination? It makes that initial scene and the whole story nonsensical. It's a complete betrayal to the fans who invested in this 'realistic fantasy.' Honestly, it's like if Harry Potter ended saying it was all a dream. Absolutely frustrating and disappointing. For my own peace of mind, I'm treating the fifth episode as the real ending and erasing this final twist from my memory.
I wouldn't be surprised if they had planned to continue the show past season 3, but Netflix wanted this to be the final season and thus they were forced to end it so weird and abruptly.
It really did not feel like this was the ending that the previous seasons were building up to.
It was planned as a 3-season show from the start
@@sfinn85 Yeah, I'm pretty sure I read that as well a while back as well , I had hoped I was wrong though.
I started saying "No.... no no no no..." when I realized what was happening towards the end of the last episode. Actually couldn't believe I was watching an "it was all a dream LOL" ending. Kind of like watching a car crash unfold in real time with no power to do anything about it.
Yeah it's such a shame. I thought the ending would be a lot better than that!
I'm no English native speaker, so I rarely use the word. But the ending had me flabbergasted.
Perfect word to sum up the episode!
When watching the finale I didn't think it was in his mind and he was some psycho but my thoughts was Magne was thinking what could have happened if they didnt lay down they're weapons and this is what could have happened if they continued fighting which what we were shown on ep 6. Overall season 3 definitely started a avalanche of terrible writing
I was really disappointed with the ending. I was hoping for everyone to slowly turning into Gods they saw themselves as in the previous seasons. I felt like they could have done a few more seasons to explain some of the other characters in norse mythology. It really did feel like they to wrap this up and were like fuck it this will do. It really takes me out of the show now
I thought the ending was supposed to reveal what could have happened if they hadn't reached a truce. Presenting that this was all in Magne's head definitely doesn't work especially since we saw the story unfold from different points of view.
I have so much question!!
What happened to that tapeworm? what happened to others gods? Why showing them separately? How did giant father died? This feels like a child has written the ending!!!
its like in the third season, all the fun and excitment was taken out, the writers changed from passionate about what they are writing for to conservative old people who think fantasy is a waste of time, and i mean its a show about thor, one of the most violent gods oat, and we got no violence in the end, one of the best shows became one of the worst so quickly.
also how can u have a show about norse mythology, and especially RAGNORAK and have it ending with a and everyone lived happy ever after is bullshit and a horrible ending
I just wanted magn and saxa to be together 😊
I think it would have been a brilliant ending, if they had really eluded to him living in a fantasy world. They only had that one point where he visited a psychiatrist and got meds, but that was understandable, since no one would believe him to be Thor. The writers just wanted to write an easy ending. The same poo as GoT season 8.
if i ever have enough free time, i might fanedit season 3. by writing new english subtitles, one can entirely change the dialogue, story, and character motivations. such a project would involve rearranging scenes and removing chunks of video that don't fit the story. (i'd need at least a year or two to work on it as a hobby and still take care of real-world responsibilities.)
wouldn't even think of fanediting this if season 3 had delivered the awesome sauce the first two seasons seemed to be cooking.
It was the worst ending i've ever seen in a show