As cool as the extra features are on this device, I think the Carby is the best of the GC HDMI adapters. Half the price, can connect to a Panasonic Q, and has a chrome-plated input that is snug but doesn't make you feel like you're gonna break anything. Very high quality and I really enjoy it.
I purchased my OSSC last week and I’ve been using it for my Sega Genesis for a week now. The first time when I saw the OSSC’s picture quality, my heart stopped, I cried of joy the first time I saw that beautiful Sega logo looking fresh. I have to admit, that is the most beautiful picture I have ever seen from my Sega Genesis, a huge step up from composite cables if you ask me, so I immediately fell in love with it. I can finally play my childhood Genesis games in high definition, and I highly recommend to keep the picture in 4:3 for the best results. I love my OSSC so much, have zero complaints. However, the only complaint I have with it is at least in my opinion, I wasn’t too happy with the exterior of the OSSC, so I styled it with my emoji sparkling hearts and bow tie stickers and now she looks beautiful and stylish. Here’s a picture of my OSSC, tell me if she looks gorgeous. ua-cam.com/video/8ExvTYbNKL8/v-deo.html
The purpose of the Wii component port is also to run the GCHD through a scaler like the XRGB or OSSC , which should clean up and upscale the image even better, and also solve any 240p/480i compatibility issues with the display. The end result is quite nice.
Is that confirmed on 240p? That's the reason I want to buy the MkII. I would like to force 240p with Swiss for the Game Boy Interface and run the wii component cable to my Framemeister for upscaling. That is what I was hoping Adam would touch on in this video. It would be a far cheaper solution than the original GC component cables.
I need these guys to produce one with a built in line doubler for the Dreamcast! Tap into the RGB SCART line for color when 480p is not supported. This is a great option for GC owners!
Another big benefit of supporting Wii component or SCART cables is that you can hook it up to an OSSC and line double the 480p content which I've heard looks amazing.
The Panasonic GameCube seems to have stereo audio out on the back; I wonder if that could function in conjunction with the Mk. 1 (without the analog plug).
Out of curiosity, have you heard of the mod Swiss? You can run it via an action replay disc and an sd card to memory slot adapter. You can use it to force 480p on games that didn’t have an inbuilt option to.
Adam Koralik ok cool. I would recommend it, but I live in a PAL region so it’s more of a necessity for me in order to get 480p out. Also, got my mcable the other day. Great video btw.
I bought the Monster brand Nintendo Gamecube _S-video_ cable back when it was only $20 … the component cable back when it was only double digits (*$98 USD* shipped from Japan, but still) … I did get the GCVideo plug'n'play, but it's the same version MetalJesusRocks had that caused his console to short circuit, so I'm too scared to use it … I like this mark-II seeing as it actually uses the analog port instead of using it as a dummy plug
There is one other feature that you didn't mention. Apparently, the GCHD II restores RGB SCART compatibility to NTSC consoles and S-video compatibility to PAL consoles. If your using a NTSC GameCube, you can plug in a Wii SCART cable and it will convert the digital signal to RGB. Or so I've read. I assume if you are using a PAL console it will just passthrough the native RGB signal.
What bothers me most about this is that after visiting their site, I've noticed they still haven't reduced the price on the original model... That makes no sense to me, you'd think they'd want to clear out stock and give people a reason not only to buy the original, but give them a difference between the two that's notable. Unless you really wanted to play it with the Q, I can't imagine why someone would pay for the original model when there's 3 options for the MKII. Regardless, great video as usual Adam. :D Just kinda bummed Castlemania didn't think about that. Supply and demand, it's how people like @Soulcommander and myself would want to become interested. New tech comes out, the old tech goes down in price, and the cycle continues. XP
Did you hear about the Wii Dual mod? It is made by the guy who made the GCHD MKII and makes Wii and GameCube games look as good as the GameCube with the GCHD. With modifications, you can make a Wii that plays Wii games, GameCube games, DVDs, ISOs, other emulators, and without the sensor bar if you don’t want to use it.
Well, RetroRGB did a whole thing on it comparing it to the GCVideo. Needless to say, it is fucking awesome. And I know you hate the Wii, but when you mod it with HDMI, it becomes just a little closer to the Wii we all wish Nintendo gave us.
I got the GCHD a month before the GCHD II was announced. I don't feel burned by it at all, but I'll probably upgrade to Mark II later. By the way, CastleMania Games is spelled wrong in the description.
Adam you know I love you bro I stuck it out until I got to the 14 minute Mark when you mentioned it was $150. I really need this but at that price point I can't do it. In reality I really thought we were looking at around 30 or 40 bucks at the most. Not your fault not blaming you just disappointed. Wish my review Channel had thousands of viewers maybe I would be a candidate to review one of these. LOL. Keep up the good work. By the way I still watched the whole video. I wonder if component cables are still around? I never did get any and as you said you could only get them online at the time.
Man, yall are too used to crappy "convenience" HDMI products! $150 is too much?!?! HAA! I paid $200 for my internal GCVideo HDMI mod. $200 for my internal Original 2001 XBOX HDMI mod (it's direct digital video out from the OG XBOX's video encoder. It's not an internal component to HDMI box), and $330 for my Dreamcast HDMI mod (DCHDMI). You get what you pay for and if you penny pinch you're gonna pay later. Ask Pound to make another crappy GameCube HDMI cable with cheap converters if you only want to pay $30 or $40.
@@DarylWiseJr well to each their own some of us would rather spend their money on something newer when getting into that amount. It's not about getting by cheap, it's about what it's worth to you. It sounds to me like all you're doing here is boasting about your mods. LOL. 30 or 40 bucks would be a fair price and I know darn well the components used do not cost that much. I have had Chinese marketers contact me on other devices the more you buy the cheaper they are. If you want to blame somebody for the cost blame the Chinese because they are reaping a harvest off of America. Last of all we'll all be laughing at you when your GameCube or Xbox blows a capacitor and is rendered useless. Nothing lasts forever buddy.
Interesting thought, with a modified GameCube could you theoretically mod the firmware to add settings for the HDMI out? 🤔 Edit: Would also be cool if this thing supported nearest neighbor 1080 scaling.
You can also use Swiss to force games into 480p. I have a PAL GC and use Swiss to force games into 480p when using the Carby. It doesn’t work on all games, but has a high success rate. This is probably more applicable to PAL users since PAL software has the 480p code stripped out.
Ngl the carby adapter is like half the price and uses the same video upscale technology, with a few less features. I’m very tempted to get that instead.
Does the line doubling make game compilations that convert 240p to 480i such as Sonic Mega Collection look somewhat acceptable? On the Wii even with 480p enabled, interlaced lines are still visible.
Watched Adam's videos for a long time. Original hardware, pickups and ad on's are cool to look at. As far as gamecube goes for me the ultimate way is dolphin on PC. Esp if you are lucky enough to have a good rig. Playing Twin Snakes at 4K 60 is really incredible and you can still use the OG GC controller. I cant wait for the day OG xbox gets proper emulation, same for PS3 and the 360. Console collecting really is a lifestyle and for me it is beyond what i would be willing to invest, by the time you buy the console, implement the mods, buy the right upscalers/hd output converts etc you could have bought several high end PC's that baring one or two games perform so much better. Hell BOTW emulation on PC is something special and, with that point i'd love to see Adam do something along these lines esp as he has a huge game collection so emulation comparisons alongside the OG hardware because eventually one day will come when OG hardware is so scare, or so expensive that the only way to play will be emulation. peace x
Though to be clear...you could still use it via HDMI probably with the something like the SNES Pound cable. But the quality wouldn't even be half of this because you wouldn't have access to the high resolution modes.
Adam I love this device, granted I still have the first model but it works amazingly & your review back then made me buy one since I love the GameCube. My ONLY gripe with it is the need for a IR remote, I got super lucky & I mean super lucky that we had an old toshiba TV with an extra remote around & when I say every remote in the house didn't work except that one... I mean it lol but overall I've had mine for quite some time & I love it. Some say keep a CRT & I simply can't, I have a nice flat-screen & I want to play my games on them
I got mine just a few weeks ago while trying to rapidly grow my GameCube collection and its amazing. I would never spend $250 on a component cable, and since my 4K TV handles component poorly anyways, this is the best quality video I think I could ever get for the Cube.
Dalton2K5 component cables have actually dropped in price. They now go for $215-20 on the low end. Still not great, but I hope the price keeps dropping.
Well, to be honest, there is no difference between this and the official component cables from Nintendo, video quality wise. My Life in Gaming looked at this already, and it just is a much better solution to use HDMI than use Component either way.
Hey, Adam I know I've previously asked you this question but my memory's terrible. 😂 Did you use the Hauppauge HD PVR 2 in order to obtain the footage of the GCHD Mk-II in action for this video?
Is there a point in using a Mcable vs another HDMI cable meant for high speeds (4k@60hz). If you are using the GCHD Mark II in conjunction with the Mclassic?
The question is what type of tv did you test the gchd on that was having the flickering? Just asking because I’m looking for a hdtv for my retro set-up so I don’t run into that problem
Are there any plans to make a Wii version of one of these? I lay all my GameCube games on the Wii, but would like an HDMI option other than those crappy component to HDMI converters
How did you record the Mcable footage? I have a Carby v2 and a gaming edition Mcable, but my Elgato HD wont record it properly. The picture keeps turning on and off.
So he kind of touched on this in the video, but I want to give a more detailed explanation of one of the possible uses the GCHD Mk-II has over the original. This device is marked very heavily towards competitive Super Smash Bros. Melee players. EON Gaming even partnered with the best Melee player in the world to advertise it. The reason this device is so good for competitive Melee, is because Melee players are very picky. When it comes to input lag, CRTs have the lowest of any display ever, and most Melee players refuse to use anything but CRTs because of this. Using an HDMI cable with the GCHD allows you to connect a GameCube to a high quality gaming monitor, which actually only introduces about 2ms more delay than a CRT. Yes, 2ms is practically unnoticeable, but the fact that the GCHD is very expensive prevents most players from caring enough to use it over a CRT. So the added features now kind of re-purpose the GCHD in the competitive Melee scene. Instead of using the HDMI port to send the signal to a monitor, it's plugged into a capture card to record the highest quality of gameplay possible when live streaming, while the Wii component port allows for higher video quality for the competitors while still letting them play on a CRT for the least amount of input lag possible. And yes people still play Melee competitively despite Nintendo having released 3 more games in the franchise, but that's a whole different discussion.
I'll be getting this soon! My Eon that I bought last year is giving me trouble. It's plugged in all the way, with the click and light on, but no picture!
Dude, 480i and 480p are both the same resolution. There's not that much of a difference. Just like both 1080i and 1080p being the same resolution. So why does interlace and progressive scan matter?
That's objectively wrong. Interlaced images have half the image at a time and constantly swap, producing a jaggy line effect. Progressive scan is a full image at all times, hence cleaner image.
Yeah I was always questioning the price especially now because after all the editions the mark 2 added it's still 150$ so the mark 1 was intentionally overpriced just for the sake of that's a shady move if that's the case
So like I just bought the GCHD Mark II... and like, yeah I am glad I did get it... but I still think it was a bit overpriced. The Carby seems to be more reasonably priced alternative... but Component worked better with the setup I had already. I thought Insurrection Industries was working on GameCube component cables, but I guess that fizzled...
What would be your recommended setup for this product, GCHD MkII through mCable directly to tv, or GCHD through wii component through framemeister or ossc. My tv experienced flickering with the gekko box for my dc when connected directly to tv, but signal was fine when passed through framemeister first.
@@AdamKoralik thanks for the Quick Response. I'll go grab the mCable. Just a little background, the upscaler I have is an adze Atlona HD500 that I use in conjunction with the Hanzo box for my Dreamcast. So, it was just a piece of Hardware laying around and it figured it would help. However, like I mentioned, I'll go grab that mCable and try that. Thanks again.
"You can RGT 85 this by sawing it off." LMAO. If it works, then it works for the Panasonic Gamecube. I would have tried it. It seems like the GCHD II with the M cable is the way to go. It looks way better than the composite cables. I'm surprised that a company like Nintendo just gave up on their older retro consoles by not offering HD support for their own retro consoles in this newer age of TV technology. Nintendo just gave up on an entire division of their business that they could have added to their own business model in which Nintendo should be reaping the rewards and they are just letting these 3rd party corporations enhance their own retro consoles by coming out with their own product lines. I see that as being bad for Nintendo because all they want to concentrate on is their current mainstream console, (The Switch) and it's games only. I believe that is a horrible business decision and Nintendo is being lazy. However Nintendo is not alone. Sega, Sony, and even Xbox are all in the same boat as Nintendo when it comes to enhancing their older retro consoles to play on newer HD TV's. Why let a 3rd party company come in to do their work and clean up their mess when they can add to their bottom line? Who is at the helm of these companies? Nintendo needed retro support for their older consoles a long time ago, we can see that they did not have a successful plan compared to what could have been. It's not like all these older Nintendo consoles and games are hitting the dumpsters en masse, quite the contrary. Noting that Nintendo could have supported the NES, SNES, N64, and Gamecube consoles sooner with HDMI cables and name brand wireless controllers with respect to the Wavebird, they easily passed up on $350,000,000 or more on potential worldwide sales to improve on what they already had established in the market. They already have established contracts with major retailers, what's a little bit more shelve space when they have the kiosks at the big box stores. A 3rd party company should try to make a HD cable for the Gamecube consoles that only have the "Analog AV Out" port on the back of those consoles. Nintendo is not going to do it.
Then the Carby HDMI adapter by Insurrection Industries is the one for you. Costs half as much at $75 and delivers equally good image quality (it uses the same firmware), but only connects to the digital AV port and doesn't have any of the fancy bells and whistles of the GCHD Mk-II. The Carby does come with its own remote control though.
Yeah it might just be that my 55” is too big. Thanks for the reply. Which do you prefer, the mclassic or mcable? Trying to decide which one to get. Seems like mclassic is the better option I just want the most crisp and clean video on my GameCube.
Hardware limitation, without that port there's no way to access it. It's like wanting your Sega Genesis to support WiFi natively, it just doesn't have the parts.
You gotta try resident evil 2/3 on gamecube line doubled from 480i to 480p with the gc hd mk 2 and the mclassic! I'm hoping the swiss loader makes it even better! Blew me away.
The MCable will create around 50-100 microseconds of lag. This is undetectable to a human, but its certainly not faster than a standard hdmi cable which is only limited by the speed of electrons flowing through its wires.
@@AdamKoralik They say in the video not to read into because of the margin for error. Which is the PWM backlight that can cause inconsistent readings with the leo Bodnar. The MCable is not faster than a straight through HDMI cable. Period. No matter who says it.
I think this comment comes from the Digital Foundry video where the tests suggested the MCable resulted in less lag compared to a standard HDMI cable, but that didn’t seem to make sense to Tom (I think it was) in the video. The standard HDMI cable he compared it to may have been of poor quality; I too wouldn’t expect the MCable to actually be faster (considering it has to process the image then upscale it), but most accounts I’ve read suggest it’s very good at what it does (for a price).
I have a 4:3 HD crt samsung tru flat set that has an hdmi but the input puts the image in 16:9.. I can change it to 4:3 but it shrinks the entire image to a smaller square in the screen and not filling up the entire screen. If this device natively outputs 4:3 I want to try it. Edit: oh it also supports component this shouldn't be a problem then
I gotta be honest Adam with the GCHD II adapter the progressive scan compatible games look and sound really good. Comparable to the component cables and optical output I normally have for the Cube (I managed somehow to pick up the component cables randomly at a Target in Bourbonnais IL back in the day - not online) but the non progressive scan games look like shit. I just booted up a whole bunch of games with the adapter and Killer 7 is awful. Would much rather have the component cables for that. Oh well I guess you can't have it all. :D Still, it's a neat gizmo if you want to switch cables around now and then. Love your channel! Hee ho.
Awesome video as ever Adam 😁 if and when funds and time permits I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the Carby - touted as a much more affordable and just as capable HMDI GameCube made by Insurrection Industries.
best picture dolphin emulator. if you want to be cheap and use official hardware wii with component is the best cheap option. i personally use dolphin.
@@AdamKoralik fair enough you're right but if you don't want to spend $150 do one of the 2. I prefer dolphin though the community is great if something's not working right you have a lot of people to help you and you can make games look amazing
Yeah. I may have just have to troubleshoot alot, itll take me a while. I joined your discord, maybe i can find some one on there. Thanks for the reply. 😀
It's price that puts me off, good device but expensive. I use my UK gamecube though RGB Scart and it looks great and I'm happy with it so I'll stick to that for now. Interesting though.
A solid product? No way. I just watched the breakdown on the Retro Roundtable Ep 32, where Bob from RetroRGB, Voultar, Rene, and HD Retrovision talked about it. Cheaper plastic, ENIG contacts, board design is improper, digital port connector is some crappy mushy nylon, they botched the multiout connector, and many more things. They DO NOT recommend it at all, not for $150 no way.
I grew up playing the GameCube in RF on my tiny CRT that I kept in the corner of my childhood bedroom. Now that I am older, I fixed my childhood GameCube, and got the EON GCHD MK II (I wanted output for my 4K TV and Component CRT). I am one MCable away from ultimate GameCube setup for picture quality. One day I will have the ultimate GameCube setup. GameCube forever!
Be patient on the mCable. They are releasing the “mClassic” this year which is a dongle type adapter which will upscale to 4K. Reportedly pricing will be $80-$100. It will also have a passthrough to turn that off.
Nero Raul Downside is the mCable stretches the image to 16:9 but most TVs can correct this. I mentioned to them about this issue and they said they’re in the tinkering stage (mClassic) so it still may be possible to maintain 4:3 so those who capture gameplay can have the correct aspect ratio. We’ll have to wait and see if they add the functionality or not. I’ve been using the mCable on an original Xbox with the Pound Link adapter and the difference is night and day. I couldn’t believe how much better it is.
That Panasonic GameCube looks like a very expansive mini oven.
As cool as the extra features are on this device, I think the Carby is the best of the GC HDMI adapters. Half the price, can connect to a Panasonic Q, and has a chrome-plated input that is snug but doesn't make you feel like you're gonna break anything. Very high quality and I really enjoy it.
The component cable was sold at Game Stop as well. That's where I bought mine new back in the day.
Great review of this, about what I expected. I've got the original model as well as a HDMy Cube, both about the same thing and both work quite well.
I purchased my OSSC last week and I’ve been using it for my Sega Genesis for a week now. The first time when I saw the OSSC’s picture quality, my heart stopped, I cried of joy the first time I saw that beautiful Sega logo looking fresh. I have to admit, that is the most beautiful picture I have ever seen from my Sega Genesis, a huge step up from composite cables if you ask me, so I immediately fell in love with it. I can finally play my childhood Genesis games in high definition, and I highly recommend to keep the picture in 4:3 for the best results. I love my OSSC so much, have zero complaints. However, the only complaint I have with it is at least in my opinion, I wasn’t too happy with the exterior of the OSSC, so I styled it with my emoji sparkling hearts and bow tie stickers and now she looks beautiful and stylish. Here’s a picture of my OSSC, tell me if she looks gorgeous.
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Nice to see a new version of this! Great review!
The purpose of the Wii component port is also to run the GCHD through a scaler like the XRGB or OSSC , which should clean up and upscale the image even better, and also solve any 240p/480i compatibility issues with the display.
The end result is quite nice.
Is that confirmed on 240p? That's the reason I want to buy the MkII. I would like to force 240p with Swiss for the Game Boy Interface and run the wii component cable to my Framemeister for upscaling. That is what I was hoping Adam would touch on in this video. It would be a far cheaper solution than the original GC component cables.
I need these guys to produce one with a built in line doubler for the Dreamcast! Tap into the RGB SCART line for color when 480p is not supported. This is a great option for GC owners!
Another big benefit of supporting Wii component or SCART cables is that you can hook it up to an OSSC and line double the 480p content which I've heard looks amazing.
Conponent/scart is useful with the ossc to 2x 480p
I live in germany so it isnt for me but I still watch it because Your videos are very interesting
HDMI in the house big Adam style
Just use the carby insurrection hdmi for panasonic GameCube Q
It’s also half the price too, which is a bonus :)
dylan craven agreed
It's superior? Audio as well?
The Panasonic GameCube seems to have stereo audio out on the back; I wonder if that could function in conjunction with the Mk. 1 (without the analog plug).
The carby will fit perfectly on the Panasonic cube, and I wonder if the audio in the digital out is worse than av audio
Out of curiosity, have you heard of the mod Swiss? You can run it via an action replay disc and an sd card to memory slot adapter. You can use it to force 480p on games that didn’t have an inbuilt option to.
Heard of, yes, used, no.
Adam Koralik ok cool. I would recommend it, but I live in a PAL region so it’s more of a necessity for me in order to get 480p out. Also, got my mcable the other day. Great video btw.
I bought the Monster brand Nintendo Gamecube _S-video_ cable back when it was only $20 … the component cable back when it was only double digits (*$98 USD* shipped from Japan, but still) … I did get the GCVideo plug'n'play, but it's the same version MetalJesusRocks had that caused his console to short circuit, so I'm too scared to use it … I like this mark-II seeing as it actually uses the analog port instead of using it as a dummy plug
Wow that composite to GCHD MCable difference is crazy... I've never used anything other than composite since like 2002.
There is one other feature that you didn't mention. Apparently, the GCHD II restores RGB SCART compatibility to NTSC consoles and S-video compatibility to PAL consoles. If your using a NTSC GameCube, you can plug in a Wii SCART cable and it will convert the digital signal to RGB. Or so I've read. I assume if you are using a PAL console it will just passthrough the native RGB signal.
Huh, that I did not know.
What bothers me most about this is that after visiting their site, I've noticed they still haven't reduced the price on the original model... That makes no sense to me, you'd think they'd want to clear out stock and give people a reason not only to buy the original, but give them a difference between the two that's notable. Unless you really wanted to play it with the Q, I can't imagine why someone would pay for the original model when there's 3 options for the MKII.
Regardless, great video as usual Adam. :D Just kinda bummed Castlemania didn't think about that. Supply and demand, it's how people like @Soulcommander and myself would want to become interested. New tech comes out, the old tech goes down in price, and the cycle continues. XP
Did you hear about the Wii Dual mod? It is made by the guy who made the GCHD MKII and makes Wii and GameCube games look as good as the GameCube with the GCHD. With modifications, you can make a Wii that plays Wii games, GameCube games, DVDs, ISOs, other emulators, and without the sensor bar if you don’t want to use it.
Can't say I did.
Well, RetroRGB did a whole thing on it comparing it to the GCVideo. Needless to say, it is fucking awesome. And I know you hate the Wii, but when you mod it with HDMI, it becomes just a little closer to the Wii we all wish Nintendo gave us.
I got the GCHD a month before the GCHD II was announced. I don't feel burned by it at all, but I'll probably upgrade to Mark II later. By the way, CastleMania Games is spelled wrong in the description.
Good catch, fixed. Thanks!
Adam you know I love you bro I stuck it out until I got to the 14 minute Mark when you mentioned it was $150. I really need this but at that price point I can't do it. In reality I really thought we were looking at around 30 or 40 bucks at the most. Not your fault not blaming you just disappointed. Wish my review Channel had thousands of viewers maybe I would be a candidate to review one of these. LOL. Keep up the good work. By the way I still watched the whole video. I wonder if component cables are still around? I never did get any and as you said you could only get them online at the time.
The Carby is cheaper. Pricey, but cheaper. It's only $75 and it works just as well.
Yah the Carby is cheeper ~ I want a Carby thingo
Man, yall are too used to crappy "convenience" HDMI products! $150 is too much?!?! HAA! I paid $200 for my internal GCVideo HDMI mod. $200 for my internal Original 2001 XBOX HDMI mod (it's direct digital video out from the OG XBOX's video encoder. It's not an internal component to HDMI box), and $330 for my Dreamcast HDMI mod (DCHDMI). You get what you pay for and if you penny pinch you're gonna pay later. Ask Pound to make another crappy GameCube HDMI cable with cheap converters if you only want to pay $30 or $40.
Weird flex but ok~
@@DarylWiseJr well to each their own some of us would rather spend their money on something newer when getting into that amount. It's not about getting by cheap, it's about what it's worth to you. It sounds to me like all you're doing here is boasting about your mods. LOL. 30 or 40 bucks would be a fair price and I know darn well the components used do not cost that much. I have had Chinese marketers contact me on other devices the more you buy the cheaper they are. If you want to blame somebody for the cost blame the Chinese because they are reaping a harvest off of America. Last of all we'll all be laughing at you when your GameCube or Xbox blows a capacitor and is rendered useless. Nothing lasts forever buddy.
Interesting thought, with a modified GameCube could you theoretically mod the firmware to add settings for the HDMI out? 🤔
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Would also be cool if this thing supported nearest neighbor 1080 scaling.
I'm pretty sure the quantum Nuka cola is just the blue Jones soda, which is really good
Man, you cut boxes like a pro with this box opener you have there...😉
Adam, bae! Good video!
You can also use Swiss to force games into 480p. I have a PAL GC and use Swiss to force games into 480p when using the Carby. It doesn’t work on all games, but has a high success rate. This is probably more applicable to PAL users since PAL software has the 480p code stripped out.
Ngl the carby adapter is like half the price and uses the same video upscale technology, with a few less features. I’m very tempted to get that instead.
Do what fits your needs.
You sold me on the Mcable. Thanks.
Yes way totally Adam koralic I have to say it's totally worth it to play game cube in high definition
Does the line doubling make game compilations that convert 240p to 480i such as Sonic Mega Collection look somewhat acceptable? On the Wii even with 480p enabled, interlaced lines are still visible.
Good question, I didn't try that, so I'm not sure.
Watched Adam's videos for a long time. Original hardware, pickups and ad on's are cool to look at. As far as gamecube goes for me the ultimate way is dolphin on PC. Esp if you are lucky enough to have a good rig. Playing Twin Snakes at 4K 60 is really incredible and you can still use the OG GC controller. I cant wait for the day OG xbox gets proper emulation, same for PS3 and the 360. Console collecting really is a lifestyle and for me it is beyond what i would be willing to invest, by the time you buy the console, implement the mods, buy the right upscalers/hd output converts etc you could have bought several high end PC's that baring one or two games perform so much better. Hell BOTW emulation on PC is something special and, with that point i'd love to see Adam do something along these lines esp as he has a huge game collection so emulation comparisons alongside the OG hardware because eventually one day will come when OG hardware is so scare, or so expensive that the only way to play will be emulation.
peace x
Hopefully EON will make an adapter for the later model GameCubes.
Not really possible. :/
@@AdamKoralik Why's that?
Without the component port there's just no way to access the necessary hardware. It simply doesn't exist in those models.
Though to be clear...you could still use it via HDMI probably with the something like the SNES Pound cable. But the quality wouldn't even be half of this because you wouldn't have access to the high resolution modes.
@@AdamKoralik Interesting.
now you have 2 you can chop off the analogue port and use it on the Q.
I have the GCHD mk ii, mclassic and gc loader.
Adam I love this device, granted I still have the first model but it works amazingly & your review back then made me buy one since I love the GameCube. My ONLY gripe with it is the need for a IR remote, I got super lucky & I mean super lucky that we had an old toshiba TV with an extra remote around & when I say every remote in the house didn't work except that one... I mean it lol but overall I've had mine for quite some time & I love it. Some say keep a CRT & I simply can't, I have a nice flat-screen & I want to play my games on them
I got mine just a few weeks ago while trying to rapidly grow my GameCube collection and its amazing. I would never spend $250 on a component cable, and since my 4K TV handles component poorly anyways, this is the best quality video I think I could ever get for the Cube.
Dalton2K5 component cables have actually dropped in price. They now go for $215-20 on the low end. Still not great, but I hope the price keeps dropping.
Well, to be honest, there is no difference between this and the official component cables from Nintendo, video quality wise. My Life in Gaming looked at this already, and it just is a much better solution to use HDMI than use Component either way.
Dreamcast HDMI mod review when?
When I have one.
@@AdamKoralik Fair enough
Hey, Adam I know I've previously asked you this question but my memory's terrible. 😂
Did you use the Hauppauge HD PVR 2 in order to obtain the footage of the GCHD Mk-II in action for this video?
Uh, I think I did, yeah.
That's right, didn't you say Machinima was 1 of the 4 channels you worked on?
Yep.
@@AdamKoralik Also RIP screwattack
Huh, Adam worked for Machinima before, The More You Know.
Is there a point in using a Mcable vs another HDMI cable meant for high speeds (4k@60hz). If you are using the GCHD Mark II in conjunction with the Mclassic?
If you're already using the mClassic, then you don't really need the mCable.
The question is what type of tv did you test the gchd on that was having the flickering? Just asking because I’m looking for a hdtv for my retro set-up so I don’t run into that problem
A Sony EDTV.
Adam Koralik thank you Adam love your videos man been watching you since 2012 keep it goin!!!
Are there any plans to make a Wii version of one of these? I lay all my GameCube games on the Wii, but would like an HDMI option other than those crappy component to HDMI converters
Probably not since the Wii U exists.
I need help whith this question plz!! I have a panasoniq q came cube , can I still do the same trick of the eon gc mark 1
I was going to get this, but settled with the CARBY since it was cheaper.
How did you record the Mcable footage? I have a Carby v2 and a gaming edition Mcable, but my Elgato HD wont record it properly. The picture keeps turning on and off.
Hauppauge HD PVR 2.
Adam Koralik Alright thanks for the reply! The elgato just doesn’t work with mcable I guess. Might have to pick up that capture device.
Curious, what game are you trying?
Adam Koralik Metroid Prime 2, Im booting it in progressive mode and everything. But the picture just flickers on and off on my monitor.
Was the TV experiencing the “jumpiness” a CRT?
No, EDTV.
Official japanese component cable + Framemeister + mcable gaming edition... the result is fucking amazing :-)
I'd love to get one but my Gamecube doesn't have the digital out port.
:/
Ill stick to my RGB scart cable - its a lot of tech but that price is taking the pi$$ !
I was just a bout to comment about Shawn, yo said "RGT85 it" hahaha
So he kind of touched on this in the video, but I want to give a more detailed explanation of one of the possible uses the GCHD Mk-II has over the original. This device is marked very heavily towards competitive Super Smash Bros. Melee players. EON Gaming even partnered with the best Melee player in the world to advertise it. The reason this device is so good for competitive Melee, is because Melee players are very picky. When it comes to input lag, CRTs have the lowest of any display ever, and most Melee players refuse to use anything but CRTs because of this. Using an HDMI cable with the GCHD allows you to connect a GameCube to a high quality gaming monitor, which actually only introduces about 2ms more delay than a CRT. Yes, 2ms is practically unnoticeable, but the fact that the GCHD is very expensive prevents most players from caring enough to use it over a CRT. So the added features now kind of re-purpose the GCHD in the competitive Melee scene. Instead of using the HDMI port to send the signal to a monitor, it's plugged into a capture card to record the highest quality of gameplay possible when live streaming, while the Wii component port allows for higher video quality for the competitors while still letting them play on a CRT for the least amount of input lag possible. And yes people still play Melee competitively despite Nintendo having released 3 more games in the franchise, but that's a whole different discussion.
I'll be getting this soon! My Eon that I bought last year is giving me trouble. It's plugged in all the way, with the click and light on, but no picture!
Odd.
Dude, 480i and 480p are both the same resolution. There's not that much of a difference. Just like both 1080i and 1080p being the same resolution. So why does interlace and progressive scan matter?
That's objectively wrong. Interlaced images have half the image at a time and constantly swap, producing a jaggy line effect. Progressive scan is a full image at all times, hence cleaner image.
RGT 85 it. LOL man that made me laugh harder than the time RGT tried to put together the labo robot set.
150$..........that is insane for the best quality on the Gamecube.
Kitsune Metal Reloaded get the carby instead. It’s only $75.
Yeah I was always questioning the price especially now because after all the editions the mark 2 added it's still 150$ so the mark 1 was intentionally overpriced just for the sake of that's a shady move if that's the case
So like I just bought the GCHD Mark II... and like, yeah I am glad I did get it... but I still think it was a bit overpriced. The Carby seems to be more reasonably priced alternative... but Component worked better with the setup I had already. I thought Insurrection Industries was working on GameCube component cables, but I guess that fizzled...
GCHD II vs Carby?
What would be your recommended setup for this product, GCHD MkII through mCable directly to tv, or GCHD through wii component through framemeister or ossc. My tv experienced flickering with the gekko box for my dc when connected directly to tv, but signal was fine when passed through framemeister first.
Personally, I'd go from it to an HDMI switch and HDMI switch with MCable out to the TV.
I love my Mark II! I was wondering if there would be any benefit of using an upscaler between the Mark II and my HDTV?
Depends on what you're talking about specifically, but in essence that's what the MCable was doing.
@@AdamKoralik thanks for the Quick Response. I'll go grab the mCable. Just a little background, the upscaler I have is an adze Atlona HD500 that I use in conjunction with the Hanzo box for my Dreamcast. So, it was just a piece of Hardware laying around and it figured it would help. However, like I mentioned, I'll go grab that mCable and try that. Thanks again.
Hey Adam, if the dreamcast gears are being too loud. What do you suggest greasing up the gears with?
Maybe? I've never done that personally.
@@AdamKoralik gotcha. Just thought I'd ask. Thanks for the quick reply
"You can RGT 85 this by sawing it off." LMAO. If it works, then it works for the Panasonic Gamecube. I would have tried it. It seems like the GCHD II with the M cable is the way to go. It looks way better than the composite cables.
I'm surprised that a company like Nintendo just gave up on their older retro consoles by not offering HD support for their own retro consoles in this newer age of TV technology. Nintendo just gave up on an entire division of their business that they could have added to their own business model in which Nintendo should be reaping the rewards and they are just letting these 3rd party corporations enhance their own retro consoles by coming out with their own product lines. I see that as being bad for Nintendo because all they want to concentrate on is their current mainstream console, (The Switch) and it's games only. I believe that is a horrible business decision and Nintendo is being lazy. However Nintendo is not alone. Sega, Sony, and even Xbox are all in the same boat as Nintendo when it comes to enhancing their older retro consoles to play on newer HD TV's. Why let a 3rd party company come in to do their work and clean up their mess when they can add to their bottom line? Who is at the helm of these companies? Nintendo needed retro support for their older consoles a long time ago, we can see that they did not have a successful plan compared to what could have been. It's not like all these older Nintendo consoles and games are hitting the dumpsters en masse, quite the contrary.
Noting that Nintendo could have supported the NES, SNES, N64, and Gamecube consoles sooner with HDMI cables and name brand wireless controllers with respect to the Wavebird, they easily passed up on $350,000,000 or more on potential worldwide sales to improve on what they already had established in the market. They already have established contracts with major retailers, what's a little bit more shelve space when they have the kiosks at the big box stores.
A 3rd party company should try to make a HD cable for the Gamecube consoles that only have the "Analog AV Out" port on the back of those consoles. Nintendo is not going to do it.
I do believe there are third party component cables for the analog av port. Dunno how well they work tho.
Great video as always, just wish this was a tad cheaper.
Then the Carby HDMI adapter by Insurrection Industries is the one for you. Costs half as much at $75 and delivers equally good image quality (it uses the same firmware), but only connects to the digital AV port and doesn't have any of the fancy bells and whistles of the GCHD Mk-II. The Carby does come with its own remote control though.
cool video tech talk adam did the gchd2 hdmi adaper for the nintendo gamecube did it work good and do you still have it
My video is still blurry with the gchd mk ii😑
Do you have the progressive scan modes enabled?
Yeah it might just be that my 55” is too big. Thanks for the reply. Which do you prefer, the mclassic or mcable? Trying to decide which one to get. Seems like mclassic is the better option I just want the most crisp and clean video on my GameCube.
I love your videos but they always seem to be slightly blurry/ out of focus
Is there anything I can do with my DOL-101 GameCube to get a HD picture or is it just a piece of junk now? Where is an HD adapter for that model?
The version with only one port?
@@AdamKoralik Yep. Why can't they get some HD action?
@CastleMania Games I did buy a DOL-001 and a CARBY but I still have my DOL-101 just sitting there gathering dust. It makes me sad.
Hardware limitation, without that port there's no way to access it.
It's like wanting your Sega Genesis to support WiFi natively, it just doesn't have the parts.
@@AdamKoralik Oh well. I'll just have to suffer with my other GameCube and my CARBY. Thanks for the information.
Makes the image a bit prettier-it’s $150
Badabing-badaboom saved you 15 minutes
I have joined your Discord but it's saying that I don't have permission to send a message to you or anybody on there
You'd have to ask the admins, I'm like the Queen of England in there. Figurehead, no real power.
@@AdamKoralik ok ty
You gotta try resident evil 2/3 on gamecube line doubled from 480i to 480p with the gc hd mk 2 and the mclassic! I'm hoping the swiss loader makes it even better!
Blew me away.
I'm still shocked no one has been able to recreate those special video cables for gamecube
Well, essentially this does that.
The MCable will create around 50-100 microseconds of lag. This is undetectable to a human, but its certainly not faster than a standard hdmi cable which is only limited by the speed of electrons flowing through its wires.
Digital Foundry showed that not being the case.
@@AdamKoralik They say in the video not to read into because of the margin for error. Which is the PWM backlight that can cause inconsistent readings with the leo Bodnar. The MCable is not faster than a straight through HDMI cable. Period. No matter who says it.
I think this comment comes from the Digital Foundry video where the tests suggested the MCable resulted in less lag compared to a standard HDMI cable, but that didn’t seem to make sense to Tom (I think it was) in the video. The standard HDMI cable he compared it to may have been of poor quality; I too wouldn’t expect the MCable to actually be faster (considering it has to process the image then upscale it), but most accounts I’ve read suggest it’s very good at what it does (for a price).
I have a 4:3 HD crt samsung tru flat set that has an hdmi but the input puts the image in 16:9.. I can change it to 4:3 but it shrinks the entire image to a smaller square in the screen and not filling up the entire screen. If this device natively outputs 4:3 I want to try it.
Edit: oh it also supports component this shouldn't be a problem then
Hi there, I've got one of those Samsung's as well, awesome CRT
I gotta be honest Adam with the GCHD II adapter the progressive scan compatible games look and sound really good. Comparable to the component cables and optical output I normally have for the Cube (I managed somehow to pick up the component cables randomly at a Target in Bourbonnais IL back in the day - not online) but the non progressive scan games look like shit. I just booted up a whole bunch of games with the adapter and Killer 7 is awful. Would much rather have the component cables for that. Oh well I guess you can't have it all. :D Still, it's a neat gizmo if you want to switch cables around now and then. Love your channel! Hee ho.
(Just want to amend my earlier statement in that my TV is pretty old - about 5 years ha).
A Adam just to let you know Resident Evil 2 remake is out i had the Deluxe edition digital version only
Yep, I know. Great game!
Awesome video as ever Adam 😁 if and when funds and time permits I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the Carby - touted as a much more affordable and just as capable HMDI GameCube made by Insurrection Industries.
best picture dolphin emulator. if you want to be cheap and use official hardware wii with component is the best cheap option. i personally use dolphin.
Cheap being the qualifier, but if it's worth doing it's worth doing right.
@@AdamKoralik fair enough you're right but if you don't want to spend $150 do one of the 2. I prefer dolphin though the community is great if something's not working right you have a lot of people to help you and you can make games look amazing
@@AdamKoralik p.s. love your content man your always fun to listen too. Have been watching your stuff for years
AlpacaCheese what controller do you use for dolphin?
Is there a service or someone I can call to help me hookup 10 systems to my 1 TV ?
Just asking.
Probably? Not sure, I just did it myself.
Yeah. I may have just have to troubleshoot alot, itll take me a while. I joined your discord, maybe i can find some one on there. Thanks for the reply. 😀
Maybe check out my life in gaming? They have a few videos on game room set ups. Also look into hdmi switchers
Ty Burton Thanks i will. I do have a few channel switchers. 1-4 & 1-8.
Adam do you know where I can send a couple of systems repaired
Any info would be great
I still don’t understand why PAL GameCubes doesn’t support 480p while the Dreamcast supports it flawlessly
Nintendo's decision.
7:06 RGT 85 this :)
I'm lucky I got the component cables.
I wish it wasn’t so expensive.
Get a Carby for $75
Barah been boom! Scott the Woz
It's price that puts me off, good device but expensive.
I use my UK gamecube though RGB Scart and it looks great and I'm happy with it so I'll stick to that for now.
Interesting though.
I envy American Gamecube players.. We PAL players had a good run.
Whats with the video quality, seems out of focus
I have a shitty camera.
@@AdamKoralik was not trying to be rude, just haven't noticed it before, so thought maybe focus was out.
Oh I didn't think you were being rude. You're not wrong, I know it sucks. I'm just explaining why. The camera is ass.
A solid product? No way. I just watched the breakdown on the Retro Roundtable Ep 32, where Bob from RetroRGB, Voultar, Rene, and HD Retrovision talked about it. Cheaper plastic, ENIG contacts, board design is improper, digital port connector is some crappy mushy nylon, they botched the multiout connector, and many more things. They DO NOT recommend it at all, not for $150 no way.
Mmkay.
i noticed that ur video quality is kinds 480pish
Yep, shitty camera.
RIP Machinima? What happened?
They don't exist any more.
When are the Chinese going to make a
Can you talk about why call of duty flopped
Hmm, does the Nuka Cola Quantum glow in the dark?...
Ha, doubt it.
Mmmm disc cord!
I grew up playing the GameCube in RF on my tiny CRT that I kept in the corner of my childhood bedroom. Now that I am older, I fixed my childhood GameCube, and got the EON GCHD MK II (I wanted output for my 4K TV and Component CRT). I am one MCable away from ultimate GameCube setup for picture quality. One day I will have the ultimate GameCube setup.
GameCube forever!
Be patient on the mCable. They are releasing the “mClassic” this year which is a dongle type adapter which will upscale to 4K. Reportedly pricing will be $80-$100. It will also have a passthrough to turn that off.
Link please!
Found it now. Yeah, that looks way more appealing than the mCable, so I think I’ll wait for that.
Now all I need is surround sound through TOSLink.
Nero Raul Downside is the mCable stretches the image to 16:9 but most TVs can correct this. I mentioned to them about this issue and they said they’re in the tinkering stage (mClassic) so it still may be possible to maintain 4:3 so those who capture gameplay can have the correct aspect ratio. We’ll have to wait and see if they add the functionality or not. I’ve been using the mCable on an original Xbox with the Pound Link adapter and the difference is night and day. I couldn’t believe how much better it is.
"The M Cable actually has less latency than a normal HDMI cable"
Pardon me?
Check Digital Foundry's test of it. They proved it actually runs faster.
haha you can always see by the messed up hair the "before" & "after" testing state - ALWAYS!
Hi
Lol - Bethesda. Consumable drink. Ha.