2007 Scion Tc Engine Replacement

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  • Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
  • One thing that many people don't know about the Toyota 2az-fe engine is that it was known for heavy oil consumption due to faulty Piston Rings. What this means is if this is not kept in check one can risk drying out the bottom end, which is what happened here. After so much heavy use, the old engine started having rod knocks. The engine was taken out of service while it was still running so it could be saved later. After ordering a JDM replacement engine, I have the daunting task ahead of me of replacing this engine....

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  • @Brettdyt
    @Brettdyt 3 місяці тому +2

    I have a 2006 Scion tC I bought brand new with the 2AZ-FE engine before the low tension piston rings were implemented. It is the most reliable engine I have ever seen. It has 250,000 miles on it and runs great. I had to replace the valve cover gasket, and inside the engine looked brand new.

  • @Walkwiththefatherabove
    @Walkwiththefatherabove 5 місяців тому +1

    Have my 2007 scion tc automatic. And you sir have helped me replace my axel and my engine mounts. She’s at 269k and starting to have issues. I found an exact engine from jdm for 1500. If you don’t get rid of your scion I won’t get rid of mine😂! Thank you for these videos sir. You have helped me a lot!🙏

    • @TheImprovisationCenter
      @TheImprovisationCenter  5 місяців тому +1

      The JDM engine I got lasted a while but there's a couple of issues these engines have. First is the issue with oil consumption causing the bottom end to go dry and pooch the rod bearings. The other is with the head bolts sometimes somehow causing the threads in the aluminum block to strip, causing the head to move "unnaturally" and make the head gasket eat itself. That is the current issue I have with the 2nd engine. The solution for this problem ends up being the installation of thread inserts in the block to allow for the reinstall action of new bolts. There are some custom head bolts that are longer than stock to tap into the virgin threads in the compromised holes bit even those threads may not be enough to hold the bolts at the high torque required to hold the head down. The 2nd engine had an overheating issue due to a bad head gasket, bad enough to have coolant leak out between the block and head as well as blow into the coolant reservoir. Upon removing the head I found three head bolts that were hand tight due to this issue. I'm still in the process of doing this job but it's slow going due to other jobs but stay tuned for that vid since it's going to involve changing the timing chain as well as the head gasket and the thread repair. It's going to be a real mess! Even with that I'm still not wanting to dump the car as I hate giving up on something I know I can fix. I'll prob rebuild the old engine as well. It's getting really real. If you're willing to swap out the engine in one of these cars, especially the way I did it then you'll be able to handle anything this car can throw at you.

    • @tC.Kelvin
      @tC.Kelvin 4 місяці тому +1

      Had mine since august of last year and 2 months ago started making a low knocking type noise turns out this pos does consume mad oil so I put thicker oil in it and change it every 3k miles she’s running great I love this car😂

    • @TheImprovisationCenter
      @TheImprovisationCenter  4 місяці тому

      @@tC.Kelvin sounds about right lmao

  • @maik_be
    @maik_be 29 днів тому

    Great video! Nice work

  • @Brettdyt
    @Brettdyt 3 місяці тому +1

    Nice job! I watched your video where you cursed at the motor mounts. I did my car and it was a huge pain. At least if you remove the engine the motor mounts are easier, lol

    • @TheImprovisationCenter
      @TheImprovisationCenter  3 місяці тому

      Yes thus car is definitely not made for the backyard mechanic in mind...

  • @559mafiaboi
    @559mafiaboi Рік тому +2

    My plan is to keep my scion tc 2007 till it hits over 300.000 so far I hit it at 172000 and just hit 201000 in 3 and a half years and I love my scion

    • @lex1ne
      @lex1ne 11 місяців тому +2

      Nice. I have an '05 tC and have over 320,000 on it. Bought her new in 2005. I plan on keeping her till I die. Toyota didn't acknowledge the oil consumption issue until 2007 and started the recall with the oil burn test and engine replacement if needed. What sucked is that the 2005 and 2006 years also had oil burning issues but weren't included in the recall. My '05 burns oil but it's not super excessive and the engine is still running relatively good. I do my oil changes on schedule and check/top off every couple weeks. Hopefully she can make it to 400,000 before I need to drop another engine in her.

    • @559mafiaboi
      @559mafiaboi 11 місяців тому

      @@lex1ne beautiful bro yeah I go through a quart every three days or a week when I use 5/20. It burns it fast when I use 5/30 I’ll add a quert on the 5th day I do my oil changes every 3 months because I just drive it in the free way a lot

  • @Level_Up_Nation
    @Level_Up_Nation Рік тому +3

    should just stuck in a K20 or a SR20DET would made your life better with more HP, the first batch of engines for this car were all flawed the start and they replaced the ones that people complained about with a upgraded 2.5L engine. I just bought one with a locked up engine and thinking about what to do with it. Would removing the front end make this an easier task?

    • @TheImprovisationCenter
      @TheImprovisationCenter  Рік тому +2

      From what I've seen, the 2AR-FE 2.5L is pretty much a newer gen 2AZ-FE 2.4 and people have done direct swaps of the powerplants. Others have said that everything would have to be swapped, all the way down to the ECU, since many who've done it ran into issues getting things to act right. It's doable but one would have to navigate the minefield to get there. The 2.4 I swapped out apparently had the bad piston ring/oil consumption gremlin corrected on it that it doesn't burn oil like the old rig used to. The PTSD still has me checking the oil every other day just to make sure its topped off though...

    • @doitrightthefirsttime8952
      @doitrightthefirsttime8952 Рік тому

      Do you know where the engine ground wire is this engine? I’m looking for mine can’t find it anywhere. Nice video.

    • @TheImprovisationCenter
      @TheImprovisationCenter  Рік тому +1

      @@doitrightthefirsttime8952 The ground wire on mine is bolted up at the bellhousing on one of the bolts at the top.

    • @lex1ne
      @lex1ne 11 місяців тому

      While I love Nissan as well. I'd rather stick to getting a rebuilt Toyota 2.4 when it comes time for mine. The rebuild should include the redesigned pistons and rings that ended the oil burning issue with the 2.4. That was the only issue. Other than that the 2.4 Toyota is a tank of an engine and super reliable. I have over 320,000 on mine.

  • @jasonhill5287
    @jasonhill5287 Рік тому

    Well done sir!

  • @kramnull8962
    @kramnull8962 2 роки тому +1

    From what I have seen with this model engine. It would be best if buying a used engine to go ahead and check and or replace the oil filter for the timing chain tensioners. That filter is in the block behind the power steering pump.
    Been procrastinating this job for 4 months now. I think I only got 1 rod knock at the moment. I'm gonna try just replacing the crankshaft and main and rod bearings.

    • @TheImprovisationCenter
      @TheImprovisationCenter  2 роки тому

      I'd like to rebuild the old engine but I've been having a hard time finding any manuals on this engine to help walk me through any minute details I may need to know. You wouldn't happen to know of a source for a good rebuild book by chance?

    • @TheImprovisationCenter
      @TheImprovisationCenter  2 роки тому

      I'll also have to check out that oil filter you mentioned, I'd like to keep this engine going as long as possible.

    • @MrPenobe
      @MrPenobe Рік тому +1

      @@TheImprovisationCenter I'm sure there is Haines Manuals for all vehicles. Should tell you every last bolt and spec you need. Looking at one of these right now with valve train sound i'm thinking of buying, But engines are seemingly overpriced right now like everything else.

    • @TheImprovisationCenter
      @TheImprovisationCenter  Рік тому +1

      @@MrPenobe Believe me, shelling out the $2k was a hard thing to do....

    • @MrPenobe
      @MrPenobe Рік тому +1

      @@TheImprovisationCenter for sure. Easier than buying these days.

  • @mariomartinez991
    @mariomartinez991 Рік тому +2

    So is it worth keeping the car swapping the engine? If so how much more to maybe put a faster engine than the stock for more hp

    • @TheImprovisationCenter
      @TheImprovisationCenter  Рік тому

      Unless you're doing a lot of fabricating, only the 2.4 will fit, even though there's mods for it all the way up to turbos. I can imagine that all rules apply about building even this engine more beefy to handle the punishment. As for value, I feel that this car will eventually find its way into "classic" circles due to it only being made for a short span of time, plus it's one of the few 2dr modern cars out there, even with the stick shift option.

    • @lex1ne
      @lex1ne 11 місяців тому

      Most definitely worth keeping. Scion brand(Toyota) is gone now and the tC will become a modern classic. I already think it is. I'm keeping my tC till I die. The car was a super hit when it came out and included a lot of upgrades at a reasonable price. Overall value was pretty good and with Toyota quality and reliability. The car was manufactured in Japan so to me that speaks a lot for build quality and reliability. One thing I really love is the all glass panoramic sunroof/roof. Many inexpensive cars nowadays don't even have an option for sunroof and if they do it's a basic small sunroof. Not panoramic. The tC is a modern classic to be among the OG Sentra's(2 liter engines), Civic's(Si), Golf's, etc.

  • @cssplayer91
    @cssplayer91 9 місяців тому +1

    I got a 2006 scion tc and it used to consume oil but over the years I've done inductions, fuel cleaning solutions, motor flushes, switched to mobil 1 high mileage oil and oil filter, and use only high quality gas (shell, chevron, mobil) and the engine is consuming much less oil now (maybe half a quart per 1000 miles) and the engine is working like brand new again. These engines fail because customers don't do their oil changes on time and the piston bearings and oil rings get destroyed.

    • @TheImprovisationCenter
      @TheImprovisationCenter  9 місяців тому +1

      There was a recall for these engines pertaining to faulty piston rings that contributed to excessive oil consumption as well. Ours was changed out religiously with quality oil and filter but because this car saw upwards of 200 miles a day doing food delivery the window for error is very small. Such would be the case with any car that has particular quirks.

  • @ducatiboy
    @ducatiboy 8 місяців тому +1

    Would it have been easier to drop the motor out of the bottom?

    • @TheImprovisationCenter
      @TheImprovisationCenter  8 місяців тому

      It would've but I had to do it in the driveway, no access to a lift.

  • @ricgomez1
    @ricgomez1 Рік тому +2

    You work like I work, I do what I can do to make it happen and that requires a whole lot of four letter words.

  • @goatsvlogs1455
    @goatsvlogs1455 Рік тому +1

    Hey, is there a way I can get some info on where you order the engine from. I just recently got one, a 2009 model. That has a hole in the motor.

    • @TheImprovisationCenter
      @TheImprovisationCenter  Рік тому

      I did a search on ebay and found sellers that sell JDM engines, straight from Japan. These engines are pulled from cars when there's only 50k or so miles on them so they're barely broken in. There's a couple different parts that may need changing out like the throttle body or timing cover. In the worst case these parts can just be swapped from your old engine to the new one. The price I paid was around $1900, with shipping to a freight terminal. Mine came strapped on a pallet and they forked it into the back of my truck with no effort. Here's a link to one listing:
      www.ebay.com/itm/265991091861?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=VqagbSyKR-S&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=0LBjhct9Rky&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

  • @spidey3448
    @spidey3448 Рік тому +2

    I really want to see how this would be if it were swapped with a v6 Camry engine

    • @TheImprovisationCenter
      @TheImprovisationCenter  Рік тому

      Would be a bit of an undertaking with having to swap out the wiring harness. Almost easier to build the engine up for turbo...

    • @lex1ne
      @lex1ne 11 місяців тому +1

      Check out the Scionlife forum. I'm a moderator there and I believe I saw someone do a V6 swap. It's a super tight fit but can be done.

    • @spidey3448
      @spidey3448 11 місяців тому

      @@lex1ne thanks I’ll check it out

  • @merkey
    @merkey 2 місяці тому

    How is the jdm engine?

    • @TheImprovisationCenter
      @TheImprovisationCenter  2 місяці тому +1

      @merkey After about 100k miles it revealed the other flaw in these engines where heat built up behind the intake caused 3 or 4 head bolts to work themselves free and booger the threads to the point that the block will need thread inserts. I'm in the process of building the old engine but there's more to the engine than any old school setup.

  • @vikpanto
    @vikpanto Рік тому

    Hey, I have a 2005 Tc automatic, can I swap the engine of a manual transmission Tc? Is there any difference between them?

    • @TheImprovisationCenter
      @TheImprovisationCenter  Рік тому +1

      Only thing I see besides the clutch/brake pedal assembly would be the mounts. I can imagine the cv axles are different as well. I would also try to source an ECU from a manual car cuz the auto ECU might act stupid w/o feedback from the transmission.

  • @stealthcon6975
    @stealthcon6975 9 місяців тому

    🤔 how did u bolt up the torque converter

    • @TheImprovisationCenter
      @TheImprovisationCenter  9 місяців тому

      Been a while since the engine swap, either the opening for the starter or at the bottom of the bellhousing allowed for access to the flywheel.

  • @peteralvarez5573
    @peteralvarez5573 Рік тому

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      @TheImprovisationCenter  Рік тому

      I use the kinemaster app, they have all kinds of music clips for download thru thr app for all genres. I'm pretty satisfied with the app and being a mobile app allows me to edit vids in the field.

  • @jasonhill5287
    @jasonhill5287 Рік тому

    About to do one myself

  • @Terrance-l8m
    @Terrance-l8m Рік тому

    What year interchangeable

  • @CleranceElva
    @CleranceElva Рік тому

    Will a 03 Camry engine fit in a 06 tc?

    • @TheImprovisationCenter
      @TheImprovisationCenter  Рік тому +1

      If its the 2az-fe series engine then the long block should work after changing the car specific hardware around. I'm not sure when the first 2az-fe engines were used by Toyota but I do know they were in the camry cars from the same year range as the TC

    • @cobradwight1
      @cobradwight1 Рік тому +1

      It should fit but you have to change the timing cover . The tc specific ones are about 100-200 more .

    • @CleranceElva
      @CleranceElva Рік тому

      @@cobradwight1 everything went smooth, it fit. I just had to swap the timing chain cover like you said.