First time startup and break in of the rebuilt engine.
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2013
- Saturn DOHC 4 cylinder. Priming and starting the engine after a rebuild. The following work was performed.
-Removed entire powertrain through bottom of car
• Removing an engine thr...
-Cleaned carbon from pistons
• Dissolving carbon buil...
-New piston rings
• Drilling oil drain hol...
-Drilled oil drain holes in pistons
-New Bearings
-New Crank seal
-New Rear Main seal
-New Oil pump kit
-New Thermostat o-ring
-New water pump
-New Headgasket
-New Professionally rebuilt head
• DIY Head and head gask...
-New timing kit
• Step-by-Step DIY timin...
-Cleaned & painted valve cover
• Spray painting a valve...
-Cleaned & painted intake manifold & new gasket
• Spray painting the int...
-Cleaned & painted exhaust manifold & new gasket
• Spray painting exhaust...
-Cleaned throttle body & new gasket
• Sticking gas pedal fix...
-Cleaned EGR & new gasket
-Cleaned PCV valve
-Cleaned & painted oil pan
• Saving a rusted oil pan
-Installed oil pan with black RTV
• How to install an oil ...
-Cleaned fuel injectors
• Improvised fuel inject...
-New fuel pressure regulator
-New fuel filter - Навчання та стиль
Those old Saturns were awesome they ran forever..
I have a 98 SW2 with 312000, finally lost a head gasket, and cracked the head. Have motor at machine shop now, polishing the crank and re-ring job only, not even much of a ridge at top of the cylinder. 3000 mile oil changes really work!! Great series of videos, they've been very helpful. Long Live Saturn!!
Although I can appreciate the efforts of those who are trying to do something like a rebuild, I have to say that forums are not the place to get information. What you have on forums is a bunch of unexperienced want to be mechanics who read a book about procedures and think they can give advice now. I've heard the term "drive it like you stole it" a lot of times, but it's incorrect and could have some disastrous long-term effects.
The proper procedure for breaking in a freshly rebuilt motor is generally.
1) crank the engine over without the spark plugs and the coils disabled and without the valve cover so you can see the oil filling the top in of your engine.
2) replace the spark plugs and the cover, enable the coil, then fire it up and let it idle for at least 15 minutes without accelerating it.
3) slowly Idol it to about 2000 RPMs and hold it there for approximately 15 minutes, then let it go back to idle again.
4) go on a drive cycle so the computer resets itself for IM readiness on an OBD 2. ( Don't go passed 50 miles an hour)
5) keep track of your mileage because you will need to change the oil at about 50 miles after first startup.
6) continue break in procedure after oil change, still not exceeding 50 miles an hour for the next 450 miles, then change oil again.
7) after second oil change you can now drive it normally and change the oil in about 1500 miles
8) after third and final oil change the break-in period is done and you can follow your owner's manual for routine maintenance of the vehicle.
Dear, Professional.
Glad you're here to straighten us out. Mechanics aren't banned from using internet forums. BTW....you forgot to include disable/unplug fuel injectors during the oil priming.
Cordially,
Wannabe Mechanic
@@kevindavis2764 No I didn't Forget, any Mechanic would know not to connect them in the first place. Why would you connect any fuel to an engines for a Prime only to disconnect it again?? Bahahahahahaaaaa!!!
@@ricgomez1 Exactly my question. You made a list of steps and didn't include it. I call that forgetting...or omitting. Also, in step 1 you typed "without the spark plugs and the coils disabled". Don't you mean "WITH the spark plugs and the coils disabled"?
Any "DIYers" reading and following your poorly written instructions would have met with disastrous results.
Where is your video of you rebuilding an engine
I bought a 110k 95 SL base has the sohc for $900. I see why people like these cars so much. So easy to work on and great on gas. Unbeatable car. That reverse slam problem may be an issue with the valve body. The solenoids weren't the only thing it had problems with the whole valve body itself leaked or had issues that's why they would go through them a lot. Thankfully they're very easy to replace. If I ever got another one I would definitely want to manual with the twin cam.
Dude! Bright orange powder coated valve cover on a Barney (the dinosaur) purple-colored Saturn wagon? Bro, that shit is straight up fucking BRAVE AS HELL!
I luv you, you luv me! We're a happy family!
LOOOOOL
Omg that’s so funny at 2:48 I couldn’t help but notice that Remington box. I currently have and empty Remington box under my truck to catch oil drips during my rebuild.
That engine looks better than new, Nice job.
Leaks they just seam to come with with engine swaps/rebuilds.
I owned one of those for 6 yrs, I woke up at night to hate it! Spent all my days off at the garage! EVERYTHING broke on that turd and they never fixed the oil consumptin issue.
That being said, you did a nice job... too nice for the car perhaps, but I bet you had fun doing it and learned. So just for that, I say it was worth it. Well done!
Good way of priming the oil system!
I have a 97 sc2. These videos are sure to help with my build. Hope mine goes as well as yours.
If you pour in the oil through the top carefully before putting valve cover on you won't have to do all that, just turn the key. Also, drive in stop and go traffic and vary RPM's. Start at a limit of 3,000, and work your way up and after your 500 mile oil change you can drive it like you stole it.
By the way, I built an oil priming rig for these modern engines with and old oil pump and pickup, a 5 gallon home depot bucket, and some AN fittings and hose. Works like a charm.
what a beast. that orange cover just puts the cherry ontop this beautiful piece of machinery
Hurray! It's been a long time, great to see her up and running again. Gratz!
man I really like your work, you got yourself a new subscriber.
This is helpful, I have a 96 sc2 and im putting a motor in it this summer thanks for all the tips!
Good job brother! Pretty Engine!!
Thank you ninja for helping me out that's all I need to do to start it up ...
First saturn wagon I've seen... seriously didn't even know they made one. Your old transmission probably had a bad reverse accumulator, that'll cause that slamming into gear... not softening the clutches.
I've owned 2. 94 SW1 & 00 SW2. I still drive the SW2. 283,000 miles. Just had the engine & clutch replaced.
All these people asking why rebuild it?
Look and see how many miles its got on it. Its reliable cheap transportation and he willl likely get another 100,000 or 200,000 more out the car, provided no corrosion issues.
The S-series is seprate from the cars saturn produced after 2000. They do not have the dreaded cvt that died in peoples cars. Also are a lot more reliable.
Your videos are very well done. Congratulations
Because Saturn S series last forever if you take care of them.
i accept that my saturn is an absolute piece of balls, but it's MY piece of balls and it taught me how to drive stick so im keeping it and swapping a dual cam in her lol. i love the damn thing
some day, SOME day far off into this millennia, people will respect the little plastic tupperware cars that everyone threw away.
The Saturn Life did u made it ?? i got an 2002 sc1 sohc thinking about swaping it for a dohc just like you
2000 saturn sl 1.9 dohc saturn life boi fuck the hate in Saturn's they just mad because our saturns eat civics for breakfast.
@@MaineBackcountryAddicts neither civics, nor saturns are cool. xD
Good job!
I knew I recognized your voice....love your ammo and gun channel btw!
I used to use a similar way of first getting rid of all the old oil in an engine, then pre-lubing it before I started it. Now I have to pay other people to do it and they never do it as well as I did.
Nice video
good job..
You are ready for a hot rod build.. watched some of your video's nice job.. thanks..
Our saturns are amazing darlings!
hahahaha "drive it like you stole it"
how do i get to pcm? do i have to take out dash? Great build by the way
Glad you blurred that license plate, 'cause I was a gonna track down & steal that bad boy.
Not!
Any chance of a update video to show how the rebuild is holding up?
I think drive it like you stole is old skool now. What they recommend is to drive at varying speeds, don't floor it and don't cruise at a constant speed for long. I don't know what other drivers on the road may think but I can guess.
Sweet. Hows the oil consumption with the drainback holes?
Can you tell me where the oil pump is located and do i need to pull the motor to replace it
Hey man, I was wondering how the bottom end of the engine is holding up with those aggressive cams and the professionally rebuilt cylinder head? How many miles have you put on it? I have an 02 SC2, its needing a new head gasket and when I pulled the head it looks like I might be needing a new one. So I was wondering how the rest of the engine would hold up if I was to put a performance head on it.
Where is the oil pump located. And do i need to pull the motor to replace it on this car
Doing this tomorrow, after spending 3 years rebuild my first gen sedan, hopefully it goes smooth
how did it go?
You rebuilt the entire engine so I was pretty confident that it would fire. An engine only wants to do 1 things and that is simply run.
Very easy to short something out so don’t always be so confident
I'm curious about your oil consumption and any leakage problems also. I'm currently rebuilding an 02 twin cam motor for my wife's 96 sl2.
About 1 year ago, I replaced all the gaskets in a 100k single cam motor for my 02 sl and after only 20k miles, had some bad oil leakage where the head, front cover, and top cover meet. I think it was because I didn't seal and install the front and top covers at the same time. There was a few days between.
It sounds like the bottom end knocks on start up. How many times did you prime it with the starter turning it over and how long was each duration?
so what parts did you buy to rebuild their engine
Noce job👍
How is it running now, shifting included sense this video was made
I had the same car. My uncle gave it to me before he passed away. I traded it for a new riding lawn mower.
Yes! I knew it was the same guy who made the ammo channel! lol
I think the rebuild of the engine is more expensive then the car is worth.
Nexit Next.. It's a lot cheaper to buy a "short/long block" than it is to rebuild, but it is a lot of fun to build an engine tho..
Nexit Next, here in my country the engine rebuilding is a little cheaper cause most of us here use Japan models specially Toyota cause if live here and you have Toyota, the parts are easier to find and the vehicle is a bit more reliable...
Nexit Next especially shitty plastic Saturn
@@yournightmare9999 So shitty that, 17yrs later (last original one built) you still see them and they run fine. Or, need easy fixes.
Also, many cars went to mostly plastic panels etc. sooooo.... yea. Good try.
@@amak1131 Saturn not produce cars anymore because nobody wants plastic crap especially in winter -F
How is the vehicle holding up ?
did you use break in fluid
Your engine sounds nice ,purring like a kitten
Hello I started my new engine without putting oil into the cylinders Is that gonna cause any problem to my engine or Piston rings thanks
your supposed to get the rpms up when the engine cranks mate, dont let it idle. The rings proabably havent sealed and expect future problems with your engine.
All the Saturn S series are great cars but after owning two SL models it was nice to get a sport SC 2 model recently the engine has a bit more pep to it.
Great job! Im so tight on funds right now I want to rebuild but I'll wait till she blows 201k on the original only minor oil burning
Is Jed Clampett one of your neighbors?
sweet your from maine. same boss im in south Portland. my buddy has one of these and be beats the piss out of it
I really liked this video. It is very informative and your narration is easy to follow.
Those little engines are decent engines but I have to say the station wagon I had SW1 I think if all 2 passengers were in the back and 2 up front the engine didn't really like to pull that much weight around and you could forget going up a hill.
GM made the only station wagon that worked it's best with only one person in it. lol
evilcowboy that's because it had the weak engine (and let me guess - automatic transmission too?) if it were a manual with the DOHC engine it would be fine
@@1FAST91SONOMA Yeah, on top of his being single cam, it is a wagon that is heavier. Even the SC1's, 2's, were a little heavier. The lightest Saturn cars were the SL1 and SL2 model cars. I got a donor 5 speed for mine to swap into my 1995 DOHC SL2. I know this video is old, and I prey that I don't get hit or rear ended cause I'm going .20 over forged rods, and port and polished head, 14-15 PSI turbo, aftermarket ECM, the whole 9 yards...lol
Oh no, no no no. Drive it like you stole it AFTER the 500mi break-in and oil change and a head retourque.... proper race engine building right there
Drive it like you stole it DURING the first 500 miles (if you don't want to visit evil engine builders in your future and lose all your money).
surprised the thing made it that far! i hope i really hope it is good for you i wanted to keep the saturn our family had but i was too afraid of the cvt it had... oh well it was a nice car but too bad, that station wagon style that one has is really neat i would like to have one like that some day
Sexy for sure, I personally love the combination of Barney purple exterior and coast guard orange on the valve cover. I definitely attracts the ladies.
lol
By the way, the cvt model you had is nothing like the s series in this video.
Don't be surprised if they burn oil up the wazoo until the rings seat and the valves gum up. Usually around 10qts or so after first run
the idle seemed to be adjusted up to 1200 rpm... to me as a mechanic, the idle should only be at least 900 to 1000... idling it a little higher on a newly rebuild engine could stress the parts and damage quickly during break in...
i just rebuilt one of these and there i sstill smoke from tailpipe after 10 mins of running, is this normal residual burn off or is there a bigger problem?
+ltethan649 go to autozone an get a new pcv valve there only like $4 an and will cause the car to smoke like mad if stuck an if that don't clear it up that sucks but well it was only 4 bucks
Are the Twin Cam engines better than the efi/ohc ones?
Bruh yes. More power and more reliable.
mi comtario es por ke mi carro le hecho agua al radiador y no se calienta cuando salgo lejos
my Saturn has the transmission kick when.its in reverse problem too. is it because there isn't enough oil going Into the torque converter or is it a bad trans?
Bad transmission
Michael Hunt don’t know if you still have the car but when a Saturn s series gets the reverse slam issue, it’s just a loose nut on one of the gears. It can be easily fixed by removing the side transmission cover and simply tightening the nut.
Fixing it up and painting it but no aftermarket air filter
+Tyler Burnett You don't know that. Could be stock size aftermarket.
Good job man i bought my first stick a 1995 saturn sl and its great. This was bout 2 months ago. The interior was wrecked i restored it. Bout to make an exhaust for it. Did a bunch of stuff under the hood but its ok i love working on cars. Put new spark plugs. Wires. Tpc. Iac. Cleaned throttle body. Valve cover gasket. Intake gasket. Radiator fan motor and relay. Temp sensor. Coolant flush. Oil change. Painted valve cover. New battery. Top motor mount. Etc i might put a stage two clutch in her and new pistons racing kind so i can turbo it. What do u think.
Still got to put new a.c compressor. Alternator and pully.
If you want to turbo it you'll probably want new rods and pistons. Pistons will go pretty far in their own but I'd do both.
Awesome vid! Is the car still on the road?
Meanwhile if you LOOK AT THE CAR MANUAL it will TELL YOU the breaking in procedure. They ALL DO. And what it says is to NOT TOW and NOT DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT and also to keep varying your rpm level. So the BEST move is your average start stop traffic in light traffic in an area with traffic lights, round abouts and mergers NOT flogging the hell out of it. How have YOU NOT seen this in the standard car manuals that are left in the glovebox?
#saturngang #wagongang
I had a 1995 Saturn SL2 with the 1.9 twin Cam I got 318000 miles out of that car before I sold it and the only reason it blew up after I sold it was because my Uncle let it run out of oil
good job next time do it ford focus
so you forgot to put the transmission cooler line back on or tighten it up :-)
You need to put a timing belt of else you will kill that battery or mess something on the pump
What a bitchin ass car! Keep It up
3:43 no drive belt??
+Nicholas Ruiz probably has one without ac like i do
Anton Davis but the alternator
most likely there are two belt sizes you can get for this engine, a shorter one for cars that didnt have Ac, and a larger one for models that do. If the Ac doesnt work or leaks, no need to spend extra $ on the bigger belt to drive the compressor.
I would not suggest turning the engine over with no plugs in it. It gives the opportunity for fod to be introduced into the combustion chamber. It might have worked out just fine for you this time. But I still would not suggest it. That's just me. It's your car and do as u like. I would have added about a half quart of marvel to the oil.
Do you know of anyone or any company that sells rebuilt 1.9 DOHC motors?
You might wanna check on ebay, they have a lot of nice motors on there that have anywhere 40xxx miles to 60xxx on them that's if you got an import. Like my toyota paseo you have a lot of swap options like a 1.3 turbo 4efte which a lot of people go that way. But again just depend on what you have
you can also find low mileage engines in a junk yard if you dont mind work. But most of the time if you want it new and clean just go to a parts store they can order one for you.
Reverse slam... You mean treating the car like shit and not coming to a complete stop before shifting into reverse slam. :P stick shift is love stick shift is life.
Why?!?
it's fucking saabkyle!
one question ? Who the hell rebuilds an engine on a Saturn and why? Saturns are disposable like dental floss.
Y10Q I agree. Find a used one on craigslist. Only advantage I see here is having a project to work on and learn a lot.
But you must respect the four bolt. #Saturn4Lyfe
the dent proof saturns are sleepers there super light
And saturn ion redlines are so easy to make fast. Supercharged sleepers that no one suspects, I love them. 2700 lbs of racecar
Hahaha! I was going to say the exact same thing but you beat me to it! Who the fuck rebuilds a Saturn? I guess it would be fine if it was a learning experience, who cares if it doesn't run again right? Lol, I also noticed the "Coast Guard Orange" powder coated valve cover and intake manifold, probably cost more to do that than the engine is worth in running condition.
Mines looks just like this, same start sound, similar idol as this only mines sounds better.
But why go threw all this for a Saturn?
Everyone knows that slow drive low rpm is a bad brake in procedure as the parts will not set in properly trust me after building few v8 i know what works. A good brake in is mid rpms you should somewhere up to 4000 rpm so you do city driving as it will put more stress and get those parts to seat in right. I say spirit driving in normal way no red lining just mild spirit driving. Every engine i rebuild is over 100k with 95% compression
Ive done basic repairs but a mentor is desired vs mechanics/guys telling me to let them fix my stuff. :(
Fckin saturns are logs of shit with wheel strapped on.
That being said, that engine sounded VERY nice! I probably would bet that it runs better now than it did brand new!
im on saturnfans.com too, i had to name my car satrina, now she is deader than a broke bolt in the valve cover that some idiot decided to getout with easy out and ended having to get a bigger titainium bolt due to ythe easy out tap broke.
All that work just to go put a low cost STP filter. bad investment
2L8 iwon 500 mile filter for break in... No need for some fancy filter for that short time
That is the dedication to one shifty car.
Drive like you stole on a newly built engine is how you end up breaking it again. If you get an official copy of the owners manual im pretty sure it would say keep the engine under a certain speed as well as below a certain rpm, and do not jack rabbit start from stop.
TheOne CalledJake Except for the last bit, that's out-dated information. Drive it normally - at a variety of speeds - kinda like you stole it.
It has an exhaust leak.....
+David Nesbitt I hope it does, since there's no exhaust system on it.
maybe just sounds sexy? he didn't say what he did to the engine, maybe he beefed it up a bit
Such an ugly car lol great job with the motor rebuild though
Saturn fan boy hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!
What a piece of shit why would you rebuild that???
+PhelixJMech i would rebuild mine because it's my first car, because the car has been through hell and back with me, because the car has seen my best days and my worst nights. shit like that.
just because its a piece of junk doesnt mean somebody doesnt love it.
and after that rebuild, it's not really junk anymore is it?
no offence meant, but that is one ugly ass car!
Frosty Fox they sure are. I have a 96 SL2 that I bought because I hate it. It's so ugly I can't make it look good. So slow I can't make it fast (well... That's not actually true. I could LS swap it. Been done before. I don't want to though) so it's perfect for someone like me who loves to build and tinker. My daily driver doesn't get messed with. My project cars and trucks can be down for all the time they need and I can still get to work. That's the whole point of these cars
why do not use your time in something productive??
restoring an engine is productive -_-
Oh yeah??,them what is the point broken again without any justification??
Juan Manuel engines don't just break without any reason they break because they could've been mistreating the engine.
Who the fuck rebuilds a Saturn engine? Saturns are like disposable cameras, you throw it away and buy a new one for 500$