Not sure what you say about LK. The Gogos are charging the same as WS in terms of ladies and drinks. Pothole is the only place keeping it real. Treetown irrespective of the rumours will struggle. Buckaow has always been a cheap Charlie area. Cheap booze, hotels and women. Treetown is trying to buck that trend and will fail in the main with the exception of a couple of popular sports bars etc Flights will remain high imo but the bigger issue is the baht falling. The quality of women has generally fallen dramatically. More expensive for less quality but bigger attitude. The cheap eats are less but you can still get cheap farang food at places like Cheap Charlie’s. The 40 baht Thai food is now 50/60. I see more farangs outside 7/11 now than ever before with a bottle of beer and some cheap 7/11 shite. Sign of the times I guess with more huge 7/11 opening a few yards from another one. Jomtien and Pratumnak is a winner at the mo. Busy and good vibe.
i know here we go again,but back in the day a lot of the BGs i see on different blogs now would only get a job in the bars as cleaners,some right mares around now days,do me iam a old fat fart whos days of getting the bar queen are long gone LOL
Keef .....Spot On you are .... I overall (as an expat living in Jomtien for the last 4 years) see in general an increase approx. 20% to 30% for food, hotels, beers etc. the bar fines/girls even more (and, yeah overall, they are less attentive /attractive) ....world inflation has hit everywhere for sure.... the alcohol buying at 7/11 & Family Mart and hangout and drink has increased big in the last year for sure .....And lets face it , the vast majority of Farang(s)/Foreigners /Tourist that actually spend the money in the Beer Bars, Go Go's & Gentlemens clubs are the Europeans/Scandinavians, the Aussies, the Americans and the Canadian's .... In General, Walking Street/Beach Road, Many India people there ....but they are not in the Bars/Go Go's/Clubs spending $$$ ..... Same with the Russians in Jomtien (at 7/11 not in the bars) ...Soi Buakhao/Pothole area is still the best place to be for the money ! Thailand is still a good place to be !!!
I’ve mentioned the exchange rates being the biggest issue many times on this channel and Trevor never talks about it. Just says its will be white over in pattaya before going back to 50baht to the pound.
I stayed at LK Residence on Diana. I took my breakfast at Kung's every morning (fantastic sausages). Lunch was at Da's or Kiss. Dinner at Lee's on Diana or various delicious spots in Tree Town. I'm not a food snob, but everything was delicious and I had no bad meals. I came to Thailand to eat Thai food. 😋
I'm coming from the US to Thailand in March for several weeks. The flight was the most I've ever paid coming out to Thailand, but the way I look at it, I can afford it and life is too short. :) Although the dollar is not as strong against the baht as it was, you can still have a great time. I can go out almost every night, have drinks, get a nice buzz, sometimes have some female company and still have money to spare. It's all about being smart with your money and paying attention to what you do. I look forward to coming back.
I concur. I flew from Fargo to Bangkok and now in Manila. I spent a small fortune on tickets. No regrets. Life for me is the memories. I'm going back to the rig in a few days to work my ass off so I can return. Cheers!
@@dontamba4919 Yes. Unfortunately. I work on an oil rig in the western part. I used to work offshore Thailand. Economics. I have to do what a man does.
Heading to Pattaya in November and staying at Jomtien Beach for a month. So looking forward to it and cant wait. Cheers for all the tips and tricks to get us through.
I was thinking of finally losing my Pattaya virginity this year and travelling out in November/December, but many of the vlogs I’m watching are giving a more negative vibe to the scene now. Prices across the board for travel, entertainment and aerobics seem to have risen considerably. Will keep an eye on things as would love to visit. Great vlog as always buddy 👍
@@Buzzinpattaya even with the negative vibes I'm still very tempted mate. One thing that I have noticed is you can get very good prices on accommodation. If I do I'm thinking late November. Hope that's a good time to visit.
Just left yesterday. First time back since two weeks before Covid. Stayed on LK Metro. Spent most of my time there and on Pothole. I wasn’t at all put off by the prices and while the numbers may be less, the women were on whole not disappointing. Now, that being said, I don’t do gogos. Not my thing. That’s why I was sad to see Kilkenny closing for another gogo. I was never a big fan of WS and that continues, especially now that half the shops are Cannabis. I was also happy to see Bamboo reopened…I like to shake it every now and then and am not adverse to the age group of the ladies. I had a great time and didn’t break the bank. It will all come down to each one’s expectations and experience though.
Well over 20 years ago now, an already long-termer said to me "never invest in Thailand more than you can afford to lose", and in all my years, I've seen that proven true many more times than false. My experience since September is the prices for accomodation are very reasonable, but everything else has gone up. The prices haven't gone up by a large amount for the best part (e.g. ฿10-20 per dish in cafes), but the problem is the exchange rate stinks, so real world makes it significantly more expensive here... fast food costs more than the UK, and even a fairly simple meal in a half decent restaurant is going to cost you £15-20. The only true bargin right now is Bolt! With all due respect, Trev, you're out of touch with things like the exchange rate and how much the "minor" price increases are really impacting the cost of visiting over living here, and saying "the prices are cheap/good/pretty much the same" is quite misleading. I don't go out partying or pay bar girls, and I've easily rattled through £6k in the last 4-5 months travelling around the country, almost exclusively on subsistence! Those additional ฿10/฿20/฿50s soon add up!
Canadian dude here. Spending a month in Pattaya right now, I’m married to a Thai 10 years and have been coming to Thailand each year for 20 years. This place has changed ten fold! attitudes have changed to the point I know longer recognize the place. I’m out and won’t be back.
@@Buzzinpattaya Let’s hope it all turns around Trev, thanks for your great videos mate you do a great job keeping us all honesty informed. Canadian dude.
2012-2015 I rented an apartment and spent all my free time in pattaya over 30 trips and had a great time. Did another 4 trips in 2019 and decided I was going to rent an apartment in 2020 and live it up for a couple more years but didn't happen obviously. Tbh looks like pattayas best days are well and truly behind us and even tho I'm married up now I still get a sincere feeling of sorrow. It was a great place
Spot on about the gents clubs, never went into them until my last trip in April on your bar crawls.I still think Pattaya is far cheaper then Australia. As for the girls I've always found around 2000 LT and that's been since my first time visiting in 2009. I just play hardball and walk away if they try to mug me off you'll be surprised how much you can call the girls bluff if you stand your ground.
Hi mates hope you are well and thank you very much for your comment I'm glad you enjoyed the barcels it was great meeting you and thanks for sharing your experience with us
One thing also to remember is the exchange rate mate. Baht appears so strong at the moment. A difference of at least 300 baht on a single US $ 100 note. It can make a change to a daily budget. All the very best Trev 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
Oh how Pattaya has changed coming from an old timer .I remember Pattaya when it was a sleepy village when South Pattaya was all there was .Had a Mikes department store ,and Foodland on Pattaya central road . The go go bars were packed with no 1s and 2s and only a few guys in a a time .They were all over you like flies it was like being in an all you can eat buffet by yourself . The main Tourists were from Uk,Norway,Sweden ,Germany ,USA Australia.No internet,no video calling .You came here and had a great time .i remember one night I got so pissed I collapsed passed out in South Pattaya.Two Thai guys carried me to my hotel and the staff helped me up to my room .i woke up the next morning with 5000 baht which I had when I went out .i often wonder if that could happen today. There was no Russian ,Indian Arab,Chinese tourists none that I saw anyway.The prices remained consistent for years in years out .sure the Thai girls even back then were up to there old tricks with a few blokes sending money and then hoping both didn’t decide to holiday at the same time .Only a few bars in Jomtien ,oh the good old days but times do change for the better or the worse .i will cherish my good times and happiness smiles and I still will keep coming out for a holiday as long as I can afford it with airfares now 3x the price it was prior Covid .Hope everything settles down price wise and gets back to normal.😊
Thank you for your calling my friend and yes I have not been here as long as you I guess only 10 years but I remember the good times as well certainly when I first came here but as you said now is all changed and not necessarily for the better
Truly incisive video as always, absolutely loved it. In Pattaya you live by the saying, "it is what it is". There are many places where you can find cheap, our condo 50 metres Soi Buakhao, 5,500 baht a month. Best haircut I've found pattaya 80 baht. Love Pattaya but you have to learn how to live there
The moral of this story is any bloke that is sending money to thai women needs to stop, they would be doing everone a favour and there money would be much better spent if they saved it and spent it when they get back to pattaya.
Nothing to do with the place trevor it's the danger now of with recession in uk and other country's coming the first thing is to stop travel holidays. At present some are stupid just paying airlines silly money for fares not just to thailand but all country's due to the greed of airlines making up their losses for 2 yrs of covid. Stop this madness and refuse to buy high airline prices . Let them fly empty seats soon the penny will drop
Thai air asia is offering one way flights Sydney-Bangkok from $340. Budget airline, but the prices will help keep a lid on the few full service airlines.
I’m coming over on Saturday, I booked flight direct with Thai airways London Bangkok £748 return booked six months ago. Staying at Brighton Grand Hotel Pattaya a five star hotel double room £650 for two weeks without food. My favourite restaurant ie Ruen Thai opposite royal garden.
Hi Trev' my last visit to walking street in November was quite a shock: much quieter and sanitised. I wouldn't pay the silly prices when 'Metro and tree town have the vibe and the activity. Thanks as always for a balanced view! Keep smiling mate.
I have been to Pattaya 4 times in the past 12 months, stayed for an average of 4 weeks each time. On my latest trip I noticed bill padding is getting a real problem. Yes I check my bin regularly. This has even happened at places I frequently attend and know many of the staff very well, on one occasion an 700 baht was added after buying 1 more drink, so I checked bin and was short changed another 100 baht. Has anyone else noticed this?
If you go to a travel agency that specializes in Southeast Asia They normally buy a block of seats,maybe like 100. If you book close to flight day if they have unsold seats, they normally discount them. Better to get some money than none. However the return flight is often adjustable. So shop around.
As Trev mentioned, Hotels haven't changed in price much, but if your on a budget and want to stay near all the action of LK metro, Soi Buakhao area then here are to venues I have stayed at. Opey de place on Soi Lengkee plus they have a pool, Charlie Place on Soi Diana right next to the subway, well they are interconnected as also a massage parlour where you can take the girls up to your room for some fun.
I think Trevor the time I spent with you and your bar doing crawls with strangers , some new friends I still communicate with in the UK. Will keep me in memories for life 😂😂😂, brilliant job mate , so pleased to have experienced your hospitality
Since I moved here back in 96 the demographics have changed a lot. Russian families, Indians and Chinese en-masse. An awful lot of that group do not frequent the bars as much as single Westerners. I think that is the new Pattaya and don't think it will come back. To me 2000-2010 was the glory days and sadly missed.
Favourite place to eat in Pattaya, Pattaya Beer Garden, great food, variety, great sea view and of the city, great value for money, never ever had a stomach problem eating there. 😛
The fact that accommodation and food prices have stayed low and stable over the years is a godsend with other prices going up, I think if accommodation prices started to go high Pattaya would certainly struggle Airfare..on skyscanner you can definitely get prices between £600/700 which isn’t that bad Ladies..on various vlogs I’ve seen there still seems to be lots of attractive ladies about, beer bars have always been hit and miss in my opinion Walking st..returning and experienced guys that I have met rarely go down there and would never pay the BF/ST prices anyway, lots more value on 6/poon and massage places
Just got back Manchester after a month in Thailand, Koh Chang and Bangkok, spent a fortune on hotels LK Empress ,Woodlands, Tim Intermate etc, had nice food at Fra next to walking St , and Sands Cafe at Wongamat beach. Also the Sky Gallery Cosy beach. Had some fun on Pot hole Gents clubs at top end.
With regards Soi6,7, Buakhao, Metro area, the one factor I don't enjoy is the open air without any airconditioning running. After walking around, I am drenched in sweat and just drains the energy from me. I much prefer going gogo hopping looking for the flavor of the week!
If we book flights 3 months advance we can get around 700 usd from NYC, 900 from Lax and if you ready to separate flight bit more cheaper even.. But average 1000 USD all over the year from main hub
A lot of new beer bars on Soi 7 were going well on my recent visit and were a lot of fun, have been to Pattaya many times and gave up on walking street years ago. You are right about the gents clubs I recently found out about them and loved my time spent in them. My fear for Pattaya and the world is how the situation in Ukraine is going to end up!
Personally, I'm visiting pattaya in April and I'll spend some time there , but I'm going travel more, from what seen on video's north and south Thailand looks amazing. I'll be in pattaya for a month. Was there in October and had a great time. Food is still cheap beer gone up a little. Girls prices are higher. Thailand is still a great destination. Flights in late April are between £700/800 on skyscanner. Roll on April. Cheers Trev
Very good information Trevor. I just checked flight prices. Round-trip from Northeastern USA to Bangkok (economy) $1604USD [£1333BPS] to $2644USD [£2197BPS].
Flight prices are varying all the time. Personally I found a direct 11h return trip to Ho Chi Minh in March (Bamboo airways) for a £520. The same flight is now fluctuating between £760 - £900 a month after I booked it (tracked it so keep getting email notifications regarding price changes) It's a random one!!
Regarding a condo building at tree town this came to my mind: When the last bar has been shut down, the last agogo closed, the last bar complex demolished, only then will we realise that one cannot attract tourists with condos and malls"
The thing that I hold on to is that every major city in the world has this type of industry somewhere in some size or other the fact that here is extremely visible I understand maybe it's something they want to get rid of and I understand that but nevertheless I think it will still be here
My friend is out there at the moment and he has said pretty much what Trev is saying…. Food and drink are about the same, as well as the hotels. Girls are charging more and the bar fines are higher too. Example, a bar we use to go to their bar fine was 300 now it’s 750. The girls are asking a lot more, not everywhere, but in most places. He said the agogo girls are charging between 3500 to 5000. He said that’s where you will find the 9s and 10s. Beautiful girls. You might think they will struggle with those price, but apparently the Koreans and Japanese are paying those prices. Flights from the U.K. are expensive at the moment. If anyone knows where I can get a deal I would appreciate it. Take care guys
White mate thank you very much for sharing your friends experience and yes unfortunately when you go to the high-end a Go-Go's the Japanese and Koreans are happily paying far far more than what we would
Ultimately, pattaya is at the beginning of a change from a budget holiday destination for single men, to a more expensive holiday destination for families. Just look at the new condos and 5 star hotels springing up on every spare piece of land. We are about 12-24 months away from LK metro charging same prices as walking street. As for walking street, we are a few years off 250b beers, 400b ladydrinks, and 5000b barfines.
Why worry Walking Street will charge Bkk rates, central pattaya will charge WS rates and Jomtien will become the new central pattaya. Or maybe some other city or town will. When there is an overwhelming demand at a certain price level, supply ultimately will flow that way. Keynesian Economics.
@@sayanbanerjee2232 I'm not worried. I live in Thailand and only occasionally visit Pattaya. But, if it becomes as expensive as BKK then I will stop visiting. Thai beer is terrible, and I don't think it's good vfm at close to 200b for a small bottle. Ladydrinks, 250b for a tiny shot of lolly water and 5 mins of a girls time, no thanks! Still plenty of fun to be had, but the bars are quickly become more like European stripclubs than fun, hands-on experiences.
Trev... another great video... I just wanted to mention that when I arrive in Pattaya, I'm gonna be hittin' it hard... very hard... the menu reads: "prolonged debauch"...
Been commin pattaya for 8years same girl (engaged now) I go home she go home but when we go to a bar service is not to good because we're a couple still love the place and will always have 2 or 3 months a year there
Great blog Trev. Need to cover drink prices. For example..... Pint draft Chang in LK is 75 baht - less than 2 quid. Bottle 50 baht - one twenty. Chose carefully and stay away from the expensive joints. Billy...Jenni bar.
I went twice a year for 15 years couldn't believe the price of flights when I had a nose the other day, saying that if I'd wanted to go I'd have paid just had its day for me, time for me to move on Take care
I was there just this last weekend. What you need to expect is sky high bar fine prices. I was quoted 1300 baht in LK Metro in a open front bar! Absolutely bonkers. On the other hand BFs in TT, Pothole etc were generally between 300-500 baht. I did experience some waiting in restaurants because of lack of staff, with many advertising for staff. Prices in hotels and restaurants still represent great value for your money. My favourite restaurant is Narnia seafood on 3rd road opposite the driving range.
I’m booked on Thailand and it will always be great for me. Not a cheap Charlie but I won’t bother with WS without a wingman because it’s a good place to get fleeced if you are going solo. Lots of talent throughout the city and new girls arrive every day. Complainers are just good at complaining and I steer clear of them. No time for it. Just time for good times.
When was the last time you were in Pattaya? Not true about talent coming everyday! Lots of girls have moved on, lots went to phuket and many back in home provinces hooking simps on OF and ThaiFriendly.
I have just came back ,my first visit in 4 years,as I did see many changes in the city I still had a good time and I will be back later in the year. Lk metro and soi pothole was my favourite again as for flights it was expensive the most I have paid but I still got a deal compared to other prices I saw £603 plus £85 from my flight from Scotland to London. One disappointed was the windmill aggo but we can't have it all.
Fair play for calling out the simps causing problems. I paid £1066 for the return flight which is up from the £850 average I was seeing a month previous. If I see you out and about I'll buy you a drink mate, love your vids
What is the catch 22 because they send the money the girls don't come they come on holiday and said it's not enough girls and they wonder why thanks for sharing about the flight prices and yes I look forward to meeting you my friend
On our way home after 2 weeks in pattaya/jomtein visited tree town walking street and i have to say that walking street was exactally how i remembered it the heat the smells the people it wast wjat i would call crazy busy but it seemed to pick up every day .. we did see a few bars that were empty at certain times others that were busy but this is the normal people find a bar they like and they stay there buzzin bar was packed but the bar next door wasnt so we went in there for a drink or two ... we have enjoyed the city and are coming back next year but wont be staying in jomtein this time .... we paid for 2 weeks in jomtein with flights £2168 for 2 people ...
You say flight prices are a problem, but i got a flight to Thailand in November for £550, one way with Oman, with a 2 hour transfer and 30kg baggage allowance. You'll find it's to do with the person preferences having a direct flight and only flying with a certain air line, so they limit their choices.
I was just about to book my flight for April just a day before The Thai government change the entry rules so thought I’d wait to see what happens before i book it but then they changed rules again a few days later and at that time the price for the flight was £800 and even that’s isn’t the cheapest but now it’s gone up to nearly £1300 that’s for a direct flight from Heathrow to Bangkok. I’ve been waiting to see if the price goes down a bit but it’s getting more more expensive nearly every day and to be honest I do love Thailand and I’ve been coming to Thailand for nearly 15 years but I’m not paying £1300 for a flight no way. I just feel like I can’t warrant that much money for a single flight. Im lucky cos I can afford it but I’m sure there’s loads of other people that don’t even earn £1300 a month. I’m still hoping the price will go down so let’s wait-and-see
Hi mate.... same problem, direct flights all around £1.2k from London. So I bit the bullet and booked a one-stop flight £489...... but that's one way!! Leaving on Sunday.... 👍🙂
New bars seem to be opening up daily, in Jomtien’s Rompho market, and I cannot understand why! Also in this area is my favorite restaurant, which is tremendous value for money, that’s if you can get a table these days, but by far the best place I’ve been too out here for quality food, Oregano restaurant, Rompho bar area. Next door is Bootleggars bar, which has the best quality pool tables out here too. At the top end of Rompho, is the Barbeque restaurant, which is packed every evening too, which indicates its value for money too. 😁😁 🙏🏻🙏🏻 Treetown has never been my scene, LK Metro is nothing like it used to be either, but Pattaya is what it is. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Been going to Thailand for 25 years but won't be back any time soon too expensive now and it seems the girls weight has gone up at the same rate as inflation
W.HI TREV, WAS UN PATTAYA NOV/DEC, WENT IN GEORDIE BAR 2 ON SOI BUAKOU, HAD TO PAY FOR POOL AND 90 BAHT A BEER. HAD 1 BEER AND LEFT, NO ONE IN BAR AND A FEW GIRLS.
Walking street is completely threw the roof on price! I went 2 nights on a recent trip and couldn't beleive the cost of a a few hours there , for a first timer going there id recommend go and check it out but for a fantastic night out I would recommend start in tree town and then you have soi pothole and lk metro within a short walk beside you and you can have a fantastic night for a fraction of a night in Walking street will cost ( just my opinion)
I paid £915 for a flight from Manchester to BKK on the 23 Feb by Emirates who were the cheapest for short stop overs and the very best airline in my view by using the great Airbus A380,s. Also I checked similar flights for November that were offered for £650.
I’m coming to Thailand in 6 weeks and I brought my flight last year with Qatar Airways through Skyscanner for £637 and that is the lowest price I’ve seen for the flights I wanted. Think prices will stay high because not just the price of fuel but some airlines were giving 10% extra of the cost of your airplane ticket if you cancelled during covid and asked for a voucher to use on another date, so the airlines have to try and get that money back too.
The price of flights will remain a major issue. Pre Covid I was paying £600 direct from London to Bangkok, now I am expected to pay £1000 plus, that will deter a lot of tourists especially the 14 day tourist.
@@Jimmyredcab yeah, would be my advice too pal. But there not being deterred. Maybe a backlash once the covid pent up have got it out the system. Unless it’s putins doing a stealth invasion
Flights will stay expensive from UK & Europe while there is no overflying Russia and when the oil price drops. Routes are longer and more fuel needed. Also while there is more demand over supply, the price is high. I suspect things will improve when the likes of BA return and other carriers offer daily flights.
The biggest complaint I heard from men is Agogo LT is now capped at 5 hours. Some leave after 3 hours. More expensive LT and shorter time- time shrinkflation + higher prices 🤣
Places I'd use, Korandos for pizza, Kiss Food for a mixture of all sorts, the market off Soi Buakhao for Thai/Viet style dishes, Cheap Charlies for English and Thai. There are many decent Indian restaurants for a curry. The bbq lady on the corner of LK/Diana or the chicken kebab guy on Soi Diana opp Area 51 for a late night top up. The choices seem endless.
Booked for 5 nights in Thailand as stop over to Bali and Gili Islands, arriving 25th May. Really good deal in premium economy on Austrian and Swiss. Will be staying in Pattaya, looking for a relaxing stay, gay, sun, nice food, exploring the area a bit.
20:00 Regarding building a new condo at tree town; If this happens it will most certainly add to the road congestion in that area which is really not desirable.
the problem that the small bars have - is that there are just so many of them nad they area ll the same. which one do you choose? probably the best model is the corner bar under Nikom court- cnr of soi buakhao and soi Dianna, get your long neck beer out of the fridge, pay the cashier 70b, and sit down. easy no bar tab and well priced.
I use skyscanner to get a selection of flights, then use Expedia to book with a particular airline, or go directly to the airline. My next trip is with China Air, booked through Expedia. My price was the same in August last year. Still, $300 higher than in 2017. I can't complain.
I visited during January/February 2023. The visit before that was before covid. The general athmosphere def had changed A LOT. It was not nearly as busy as it was before covid and also service in restaurants/bars was very different than before (and I mean this in a negative way). I kept wondering that what on earth is the matter, and came to the conclusion that the staff is simply inexperienced. Everybody lost their jobs during lockdown and many workers moved on. Currently they have loads of new people who just haven’t learned the job yet. And it SHOWS. Also people generally seemed a lot more gloomy than before, but then again, that’s only natural after all this horrible mess. Maybe it will stabilize in a year or two. EDIT: I also found some places almost completely deserted. And I mean places that used to be busy before. Lots of businesses closed. So the effects of covid are definitely visible.
As of 5 March 2023 the prices have increased a lot , hotels up by 40% + One month ago was much less expensive. Either it is time to go out of tourists traps up north to small towns or try different countries like Vietnam, Cambodia etc.
In my opinion not that it counts for anything, I can only talk from personal experience. As a frequent visitor I see price increases. Now if I have a budget of £2k for cheeky trip and the flights are costing double, taxi from airport and some hotels 25% more , even ice coffee is 25% more so my 2k is still 2k but pre Covid my 2k was split 50/50 1k travel, food etc. and 1k for booze n entertainment, now my 2k is 70/30 . Meaning the bars get less of my holiday spends . Some of you might say well bring more money, but as I already said I’m a frequent visitor and not one of them guys who visit once every 18 months save all that time and have a proper blow out. Fair play if that’s you but I personally prefer a piece of pie every 3 months than the whole pie once a year and sit back in England sad for 18 months
I’m probably just a few years away from retirement, and I’ve been thinking about maybe retiring here. But I think I will do a couple vacation trips first, just to check it out and see how I like it. So, as a first timer going there, what’s the most important thing I should know about this place?
Trev it's Feb - cheapest flights for a reason, low season? Every girl on my line have said it's dead atm. Was banging over the Crhistmas period but I recon come April it'll work out
Feb is not low season mate, normally banging here (excuse the pun) high season is always Dec - April as it's Europe's winter time. I would say the girls are right, it is quiet but then when most are charging at least a 50% increase on prices before they have to ask themselves why mate
Thanks Trevor very interesting. Surely competition should keep prices low. In other words, you would think that each bar,business etc, would be trying to encourage punters in with slightly lower prices. Perhaps if the Dark Side bars offered lower prices then that’s where most people would go and put pressure in the rest. Thanks again, it’s good to put things in perspective.
As a westerner I agree with your opinion, but Thailand does not always operate by the rules of supply and demand. I don't know why, it is just the way it is.
Regarding the prices of "entertainment" lf it keeps spiralling it will kill the golden goose, girls more expensive,flights more expensive,baht 40 to £ all adds up to a more expensive experience.l will be here this week,so l will compare it to my recent trip in September 2022
Flights from the States kinda all over the place. I paid about 1k usd in June, 1k in August, 1k in October, had to skip Jan due to flight prices. Flight for tonight was just under 900usd and $819 for May. So coming down. This was the first time I couldn't get a decent price in January. Compare with about $740 pre Covid from SFO.
He speaks a hardened visitor as you're coming out every other month fair play to you my friend that's fantastic and I'm glad the price is coming down now
just a few things, the hotel i reserved for my upcoming trip dropped the price twice so the hotel prices are fairly decent to good at the moment and i understand it will be in low season but whatevs...lk metro has been and continues to be a great place for a night out with soi buakhao and tree town following...the thing is a lot of places are open now with few customers and that definitely plays a part
I believe the Pattaya red light area will go down same route as the old seaman's quarters in Hamburg(Reeperbahn) and Antwerp. What was once a lively area full of bars, girls and happy sailors are now all gone and remaining are some tattooed women behind windows and some sex shops for sake of tourist attraction, the rest are cafe's, restaurants and pubs for the young and party going crowd. It will take some time, but I am sure it will happen also for Pattaya, it has has similar roots.
Pattaya has always limped along, it has had great years, average years and bad years but it always limps along during the bad ones. Even without the girls it is still a good night out. As Trevor said the food on offer here is amazing, fantastic hotels and the weather is great, loads of sports bars to watch the footie etc. As for the prices it is the same where ever you go these days, they have all gone up and Thailand is no different.
I was there in November for 2 weeks and had a great time. The Wuhan virus killed the hotel I used for the last 20 years, so now at the Areca in a few weeks when I return my favorite restaurants are the robin hood, sea zone and the beer garden. LK metro is the spot. I was a regular at Sapphire but they're now pushing 5 lady drinks before you can bar fine a girl. Fukk dat. Overall though I found the prices almost he same as before. Tree town? Wasn't impressed. I didn't see any over a 5 tops.
I honestly don't think prices have changed a lot for hotels,food and drink but flights definitely have and by sounds of it bargirls too and standards are way down than pre COVID but the main problem specially for us Brits is the pound is so weak across the world nowhere outside of UK is a cheap holiday anymore sadly
nighttime meals- cnr 3rd road and soi pothole, 70-100b and good solid Thai food- laminex tables, aluminum chairs, under cover but open. . breakfast- hard-to-beat cheap charlies.
So trev..i been coming to pattaya years..your telling me its over for the normal punter...you will need at least 150 to 200 pounds a day for a 2 week good time.for sure
What I'm saying is that when you talk about being a normal punter I guess what you causes normal determines the amount of money you need but what I am saying is if you go into places like walking Street for example then yes you're going to need some money
I’ve seen single tickets as low as £300 to BKK if you can travel on given availability date with two stops and self check in ETA up to 50hrs. But you’ll defiantly need a few massages to recover from that
Not sure what you say about LK. The Gogos are charging the same as WS in terms of ladies and drinks. Pothole is the only place keeping it real.
Treetown irrespective of the rumours will struggle. Buckaow has always been a cheap Charlie area. Cheap booze, hotels and women. Treetown is trying to buck that trend and will fail in the main with the exception of a couple of popular sports bars etc
Flights will remain high imo but the bigger issue is the baht falling.
The quality of women has generally fallen dramatically. More expensive for less quality but bigger attitude.
The cheap eats are less but you can still get cheap farang food at places like Cheap Charlie’s. The 40 baht Thai food is now 50/60. I see more farangs outside 7/11 now than ever before with a bottle of beer and some cheap 7/11 shite. Sign of the times I guess with more huge 7/11 opening a few yards from another one.
Jomtien and Pratumnak is a winner at the mo. Busy and good vibe.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
i know here we go again,but back in the day a lot of the BGs i see on different blogs now would only get a job in the bars as cleaners,some right mares around now days,do me iam a old fat fart whos days of getting the bar queen are long gone LOL
Exactly what I have seen from other videos especially LK and the state of the girls .
Keef .....Spot On you are .... I overall (as an expat living in Jomtien for the last 4 years) see in general an increase approx. 20% to 30% for food, hotels, beers etc. the bar fines/girls even more (and, yeah overall, they are less attentive /attractive) ....world inflation has hit everywhere for sure.... the alcohol buying at 7/11 & Family Mart and hangout and drink has increased big in the last year for sure .....And lets face it , the vast majority of Farang(s)/Foreigners /Tourist that actually spend the money in the Beer Bars, Go Go's & Gentlemens clubs are the Europeans/Scandinavians, the Aussies, the Americans and the Canadian's .... In General, Walking Street/Beach Road, Many India people there ....but they are not in the Bars/Go Go's/Clubs spending $$$ ..... Same with the Russians in Jomtien (at 7/11 not in the bars) ...Soi Buakhao/Pothole area is still the best place to be for the money ! Thailand is still a good place to be !!!
I’ve mentioned the exchange rates being the biggest issue many times on this channel and Trevor never talks about it. Just says its will be white over in pattaya before going back to 50baht to the pound.
I stayed at LK Residence on Diana. I took my breakfast at Kung's every morning (fantastic sausages). Lunch was at Da's or Kiss. Dinner at Lee's on Diana or various delicious spots in Tree Town. I'm not a food snob, but everything was delicious and I had no bad meals. I came to Thailand to eat Thai food. 😋
Sounds great!
I'm coming from the US to Thailand in March for several weeks. The flight was the most I've ever paid coming out to Thailand, but the way I look at it, I can afford it and life is too short. :) Although the dollar is not as strong against the baht as it was, you can still have a great time. I can go out almost every night, have drinks, get a nice buzz, sometimes have some female company and still have money to spare. It's all about being smart with your money and paying attention to what you do. I look forward to coming back.
Nice one mate have a great time
I concur. I flew from Fargo to Bangkok and now in Manila. I spent a small fortune on tickets. No regrets. Life for me is the memories. I'm going back to the rig in a few days to work my ass off so I can return. Cheers!
@@dontamba4919 Yes. Unfortunately. I work on an oil rig in the western part. I used to work offshore Thailand. Economics. I have to do what a man does.
@@kevinhope561 hope you are having a great time.
Which airline do you fly from the USA please?
I always liked Pattaya Beer Garden. A big menu, decent prices, great food, low keyed, comfortable, music at the right level, great service.
nice one mate
Heading to Pattaya in November and staying at Jomtien Beach for a month. So looking forward to it and cant wait. Cheers for all the tips and tricks to get us through.
Have a great time
I was thinking of finally losing my Pattaya virginity this year and travelling out in November/December, but many of the vlogs I’m watching are giving a more negative vibe to the scene now. Prices across the board for travel, entertainment and aerobics seem to have risen considerably. Will keep an eye on things as would love to visit. Great vlog as always buddy 👍
Do it mate
@@Buzzinpattaya even with the negative vibes I'm still very tempted mate. One thing that I have noticed is you can get very good prices on accommodation. If I do I'm thinking late November. Hope that's a good time to visit.
Do it ! You will never forget Pattaya ! Do your research and stay streetwise and it is the best fun ever !
Just left yesterday. First time back since two weeks before Covid. Stayed on LK Metro. Spent most of my time there and on Pothole. I wasn’t at all put off by the prices and while the numbers may be less, the women were on whole not disappointing. Now, that being said, I don’t do gogos. Not my thing. That’s why I was sad to see Kilkenny closing for another gogo. I was never a big fan of WS and that continues, especially now that half the shops are Cannabis. I was also happy to see Bamboo reopened…I like to shake it every now and then and am not adverse to the age group of the ladies. I had a great time and didn’t break the bank. It will all come down to each one’s expectations and experience though.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate much appreciated
Well over 20 years ago now, an already long-termer said to me "never invest in Thailand more than you can afford to lose", and in all my years, I've seen that proven true many more times than false.
My experience since September is the prices for accomodation are very reasonable, but everything else has gone up. The prices haven't gone up by a large amount for the best part (e.g. ฿10-20 per dish in cafes), but the problem is the exchange rate stinks, so real world makes it significantly more expensive here... fast food costs more than the UK, and even a fairly simple meal in a half decent restaurant is going to cost you £15-20. The only true bargin right now is Bolt!
With all due respect, Trev, you're out of touch with things like the exchange rate and how much the "minor" price increases are really impacting the cost of visiting over living here, and saying "the prices are cheap/good/pretty much the same" is quite misleading. I don't go out partying or pay bar girls, and I've easily rattled through £6k in the last 4-5 months travelling around the country, almost exclusively on subsistence! Those additional ฿10/฿20/฿50s soon add up!
Spot on there mate
Canadian dude here. Spending a month in Pattaya right now, I’m married to a Thai 10 years and have been coming to Thailand each year for 20 years. This place has changed ten fold! attitudes have changed to the point I know longer recognize the place. I’m out and won’t be back.
Wow am sorry for that mate
@@Buzzinpattaya Let’s hope it all turns around Trev, thanks for your great videos mate you do a great job keeping us all honesty informed. Canadian dude.
2012-2015 I rented an apartment and spent all my free time in pattaya over 30 trips and had a great time. Did another 4 trips in 2019 and decided I was going to rent an apartment in 2020 and live it up for a couple more years but didn't happen obviously. Tbh looks like pattayas best days are well and truly behind us and even tho I'm married up now I still get a sincere feeling of sorrow. It was a great place
Nice one mate
If you don't expect much, you won't be disappointed. Pattaya as it used to be, is history.
Indeed
Spot on about the gents clubs, never went into them until my last trip in April on your bar crawls.I still think Pattaya is far cheaper then Australia.
As for the girls I've always found around 2000 LT and that's been since my first time visiting in 2009.
I just play hardball and walk away if they try to mug me off you'll be surprised how much you can call the girls bluff if you stand your ground.
Hi mates hope you are well and thank you very much for your comment I'm glad you enjoyed the barcels it was great meeting you and thanks for sharing your experience with us
One thing also to remember is the exchange rate mate. Baht appears so strong at the moment. A difference of at least 300 baht on a single US
$ 100 note. It can make a change to a daily budget. All the very best Trev 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
Fair one mate thank you
Oh how Pattaya has changed coming from an old timer .I remember Pattaya when it was a sleepy village when South Pattaya was all there was .Had a Mikes department store ,and Foodland on Pattaya central road . The go go bars were packed with no 1s and 2s and only a few guys in a a time .They were all over you like flies it was like being in an all you can eat buffet by yourself .
The main Tourists were from Uk,Norway,Sweden ,Germany ,USA Australia.No internet,no video calling .You came here and had a great time .i remember one night I got so pissed I collapsed passed out in South Pattaya.Two Thai guys carried me to my hotel and the staff helped me up to my room .i woke up the next morning with 5000 baht which I had when I went out .i often wonder if that could happen today. There was no Russian ,Indian Arab,Chinese tourists none that I saw anyway.The prices remained consistent for years in years out .sure the Thai girls even back then were up to there old tricks with a few blokes sending money and then hoping both didn’t decide to holiday at the same time .Only a few bars in Jomtien ,oh the good old days but times do change for the better or the worse .i will cherish my good times and happiness smiles and I still will keep coming out for a holiday as long as I can afford it with airfares now 3x the price it was prior Covid .Hope everything settles down price wise and gets back to normal.😊
Thank you for your calling my friend and yes I have not been here as long as you I guess only 10 years but I remember the good times as well certainly when I first came here but as you said now is all changed and not necessarily for the better
I visit Thailand since 1995... it was like you said, the good old days! Times do change anywhere on Earth....
Truly incisive video as always, absolutely loved it. In Pattaya you live by the saying, "it is what it is". There are many places where you can find cheap, our condo 50 metres Soi Buakhao, 5,500 baht a month. Best haircut I've found pattaya 80 baht. Love Pattaya but you have to learn how to live
there
Glad you enjoyed it!
The moral of this story is any bloke that is sending money to thai women needs to stop, they would be doing everone a favour and there money would be much better spent if they saved it and spent it when they get back to pattaya.
That would break up marriages and relationships....harsh to say it but some of these guys could never get a woman in their hometowns.
Gotcha mate
Spot on rexnex if only those sending money had a brain 🧠
Nothing to do with the place trevor it's the danger now of with recession in uk and other country's coming the first thing is to stop travel holidays. At present some are stupid just paying airlines silly money for fares not just to thailand but all country's due to the greed of airlines making up their losses for 2 yrs of covid. Stop this madness and refuse to buy high airline prices . Let them fly empty seats soon the penny will drop
@Eugene Booth maybe better you get your sexual preferences sorted first or ladyboys may touch your heart best. Lol 😆
Thai air asia is offering one way flights Sydney-Bangkok from $340. Budget airline, but the prices will help keep a lid on the few full service airlines.
nice one mate thanks for the heads up
I’m coming over on Saturday, I booked flight direct with Thai airways London Bangkok £748 return booked six months ago. Staying at Brighton Grand Hotel Pattaya a five star hotel double room £650 for two weeks without food. My favourite restaurant ie Ruen Thai opposite royal garden.
I'm running about the same costs, coming over from Vancouver, Canada. I think these are acceptable.
Have a safe flight across my friend and have a great time
Hi Trev' my last visit to walking street in November was quite a shock: much quieter and sanitised. I wouldn't pay the silly prices when 'Metro and tree town have the vibe and the activity. Thanks as always for a balanced view! Keep smiling mate.
Fair one mate thank you for sharing your experience with us
I have been to Pattaya 4 times in the past 12 months, stayed for an average of 4 weeks each time. On my latest trip I noticed bill padding is getting a real problem. Yes I check my bin regularly. This has even happened at places I frequently attend and know many of the staff very well, on one occasion an 700 baht was added after buying 1 more drink, so I checked bin and was short changed another 100 baht.
Has anyone else noticed this?
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate, thank you!
If you go to a travel agency that specializes in Southeast Asia They normally buy a block of seats,maybe like 100. If you book close to flight day if they have unsold seats, they normally discount them. Better to get some money than none. However the return flight is often adjustable.
So shop around.
Gotcha mate thanks for sharing
As Trev mentioned, Hotels haven't changed in price much, but if your on a budget and want to stay near all the action of LK metro, Soi Buakhao area then here are to venues I have stayed at.
Opey de place on Soi Lengkee plus they have a pool, Charlie Place on Soi Diana right next to the subway, well they are interconnected as also a massage parlour where you can take the girls up to your room for some fun.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate much appreciated
I think Trevor the time I spent with you and your bar doing crawls with strangers , some new friends I still communicate with in the UK. Will keep me in memories for life 😂😂😂, brilliant job mate , so pleased to have experienced your hospitality
Thank you so much mate am really glad you had a great time
@@Buzzinpattaya hey Trev what day is the crawl?I'm back in a few weeks for more shenanigans.
Some of my friends came back from Thailand to Australia and found the prices a little high but also smaller planes, So less of the larger ones flying.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks Trev, appreciate all the videos and information👍👏🏻
My pleasure!
Since I moved here back in 96 the demographics have changed a lot. Russian families, Indians and Chinese en-masse. An awful lot of that group do not frequent the bars as much as single Westerners. I think that is the new Pattaya and don't think it will come back. To me 2000-2010 was the glory days and sadly missed.
Yeah I agree much has changed as you said
@@Buzzinpattaya Having said that, I always enjoy myself even if sat on my own - beats sitting alone in a pub in Blighty 😎
The 50+ Western demographic is certainly dying out, literally.
Favourite place to eat in Pattaya, Pattaya Beer Garden, great food, variety, great sea view and of the city, great value for money, never ever had a stomach problem eating there. 😛
Nice one mate
The fact that accommodation and food prices have stayed low and stable over the years is a godsend with other prices going up, I think if accommodation prices started to go high Pattaya would certainly struggle
Airfare..on skyscanner you can definitely get prices between £600/700 which isn’t that bad
Ladies..on various vlogs I’ve seen there still seems to be lots of attractive ladies about, beer bars have always been hit and miss in my opinion
Walking st..returning and experienced guys that I have met rarely go down there and would never pay the BF/ST prices anyway, lots more value on 6/poon and massage places
Yeah agree
Just got back Manchester after a month in Thailand, Koh Chang and Bangkok, spent a fortune on hotels LK Empress ,Woodlands, Tim Intermate etc, had nice food at Fra next to walking St , and Sands Cafe at Wongamat beach. Also the Sky Gallery Cosy beach. Had some fun on Pot hole Gents clubs at top end.
I'm glad you had a great time and thank you very much for sharing your experience
With regards Soi6,7, Buakhao, Metro area, the one factor I don't enjoy is the open air without any airconditioning running. After walking around, I am drenched in sweat and just drains the energy from me. I much prefer going gogo hopping looking for the flavor of the week!
Fair one that mate
If we book flights 3 months advance we can get around 700 usd from NYC, 900 from Lax and if you ready to separate flight bit more cheaper even.. But average 1000 USD all over the year from main hub
Thank you for sharing
A lot of new beer bars on Soi 7 were going well on my recent visit and were a lot of fun, have been to Pattaya many times and gave up on walking street years ago. You are right about the gents clubs I recently found out about them and loved my time spent in them. My fear for Pattaya and the world is how the situation in Ukraine is going to end up!
Gents clubs are good fun as you said
Personally, I'm visiting pattaya in April and I'll spend some time there , but I'm going travel more, from what seen on video's north and south Thailand looks amazing. I'll be in pattaya for a month. Was there in October and had a great time. Food is still cheap beer gone up a little. Girls prices are higher. Thailand is still a great destination. Flights in late April are between £700/800 on skyscanner. Roll on April. Cheers Trev
Nice one
The only place I go around walking street is the Bamboo Bar! Love that place and so happy it opened again!
I know iconic place have a great time
Very good information Trevor. I just checked flight prices. Round-trip from Northeastern USA to Bangkok (economy) $1604USD [£1333BPS] to $2644USD [£2197BPS].
wow!!!!!
Flight prices are varying all the time. Personally I found a direct 11h return trip to Ho Chi Minh in March (Bamboo airways) for a £520. The same flight is now fluctuating between £760 - £900 a month after I booked it (tracked it so keep getting email notifications regarding price changes)
It's a random one!!
Thank you for sharing your experience with us and I hope the flight prices stabilized
Happy Monday and I hope Trev's bitten back has recovered from yesterday's live 😃
haha hi mate, yeah that was no expected lol
Does Dr Olivier supply rabies shots?
Gonna be there in 4 days, young man. Can't fkn wait. Got done on my flight.
Nice one mate, safe travels
Paid 1300 Oz from Sydney to Bangkok but booked 3 months ago with Qantas and arrive this sat for 40 days and can't wait 🍻🍻
Have a safe journey across and a fantastic trip
Regarding a condo building at tree town this came to my mind:
When the last bar has been shut down,
the last agogo closed,
the last bar complex demolished,
only then will we realise that one cannot attract tourists with condos and malls"
The thing that I hold on to is that every major city in the world has this type of industry somewhere in some size or other the fact that here is extremely visible I understand maybe it's something they want to get rid of and I understand that but nevertheless I think it will still be here
Thanks for another great video, I come to Pattaya next week for a relaxing holiday,hope to see you 👍
Have a safe journey and I hope to meet you too
My friend is out there at the moment and he has said pretty much what Trev is saying…. Food and drink are about the same, as well as the hotels. Girls are charging more and the bar fines are higher too. Example, a bar we use to go to their bar fine was 300 now it’s 750. The girls are asking a lot more, not everywhere, but in most places. He said the agogo girls are charging between 3500 to 5000. He said that’s where you will find the 9s and 10s. Beautiful girls. You might think they will struggle with those price, but apparently the Koreans and Japanese are paying those prices.
Flights from the U.K. are expensive at the moment. If anyone knows where I can get a deal I would appreciate it. Take care guys
White mate thank you very much for sharing your friends experience and yes unfortunately when you go to the high-end a Go-Go's the Japanese and Koreans are happily paying far far more than what we would
Ultimately, pattaya is at the beginning of a change from a budget holiday destination for single men, to a more expensive holiday destination for families. Just look at the new condos and 5 star hotels springing up on every spare piece of land. We are about 12-24 months away from LK metro charging same prices as walking street. As for walking street, we are a few years off 250b beers, 400b ladydrinks, and 5000b barfines.
😪😪😪
100% changes happening and quickly
The LK Gogos are already charging the same and the prices you quote are already there in some places
Why worry Walking Street will charge Bkk rates, central pattaya will charge WS rates and Jomtien will become the new central pattaya. Or maybe some other city or town will. When there is an overwhelming demand at a certain price level, supply ultimately will flow that way. Keynesian Economics.
@@sayanbanerjee2232 I'm not worried. I live in Thailand and only occasionally visit Pattaya. But, if it becomes as expensive as BKK then I will stop visiting. Thai beer is terrible, and I don't think it's good vfm at close to 200b for a small bottle. Ladydrinks, 250b for a tiny shot of lolly water and 5 mins of a girls time, no thanks! Still plenty of fun to be had, but the bars are quickly become more like European stripclubs than fun, hands-on experiences.
Trev... another great video... I just wanted to mention that when I arrive in Pattaya, I'm gonna be hittin' it hard... very hard... the menu reads: "prolonged debauch"...
lol, have fun and stay safe
Been commin pattaya for 8years same girl (engaged now) I go home she go home but when we go to a bar service is not to good because we're a couple still love the place and will always have 2 or 3 months a year there
Thanks for sharing your experience mates and yes you have a very valid point
Great blog Trev. Need to cover drink prices. For example..... Pint draft Chang in LK is 75 baht - less than 2 quid. Bottle 50 baht - one twenty. Chose carefully and stay away from the expensive joints. Billy...Jenni bar.
Thank you very much for sharing my friend
I went twice a year for 15 years couldn't believe the price of flights when I had a nose the other day, saying that if I'd wanted to go I'd have paid just had its day for me, time for me to move on
Take care
Yeah it's not good
I was there just this last weekend.
What you need to expect is sky high bar fine prices.
I was quoted 1300 baht in LK Metro in a open front bar!
Absolutely bonkers.
On the other hand BFs in TT, Pothole etc were generally between 300-500 baht.
I did experience some waiting in restaurants because of lack of staff, with many advertising for staff.
Prices in hotels and restaurants still represent great value for your money.
My favourite restaurant is Narnia seafood on 3rd road opposite the driving range.
Thanks for sharing mate much appreciated
I’m booked on Thailand and it will always be great for me. Not a cheap Charlie but I won’t bother with WS without a wingman because it’s a good place to get fleeced if you are going solo. Lots of talent throughout the city and new girls arrive every day. Complainers are just good at complaining and I steer clear of them. No time for it. Just time for good times.
Yeah fair comment mate
When was the last time you were in Pattaya? Not true about talent coming everyday! Lots of girls have moved on, lots went to phuket and many back in home provinces hooking simps on OF and ThaiFriendly.
@@chawpthai8061 100% correct bud.probably his first time talks utter garbage
Pepper & Salt. A hidden gem in the darkside. Absolutely amazing
Totally agree mate very good food
I have just came back ,my first visit in 4 years,as I did see many changes in the city I still had a good time and I will be back later in the year.
Lk metro and soi pothole was my favourite again as for flights it was expensive the most I have paid but I still got a deal compared to other prices I saw £603 plus £85 from my flight from Scotland to London.
One disappointed was the windmill aggo but we can't have it all.
I hope you had a good time
What was wrong at windmill mate
@@djtinytenerife I just thought it was not as it was ,it could just be me on the night maybe I have been spoiled by kink aggo.
@@dontamba4919 twice in 1 night lol
@@andrewmilligan3764 I’ve never thought windmill had the best looking girls but seen things in there you wouldn’t wanna show your mom.
Fair play for calling out the simps causing problems. I paid £1066 for the return flight which is up from the £850 average I was seeing a month previous. If I see you out and about I'll buy you a drink mate, love your vids
What is the catch 22 because they send the money the girls don't come they come on holiday and said it's not enough girls and they wonder why thanks for sharing about the flight prices and yes I look forward to meeting you my friend
Can you do an episode on Soi 6? I would appreciate it, love your channel!
See what I can sort mate, thank you so much
Awesome, also I will be there I April, would love to buy you a beer!
In my experience, Soi 6 hasn't seen the price increases that you are seeing everywhere else.
On our way home after 2 weeks in pattaya/jomtein visited tree town walking street and i have to say that walking street was exactally how i remembered it the heat the smells the people it wast wjat i would call crazy busy but it seemed to pick up every day .. we did see a few bars that were empty at certain times others that were busy but this is the normal people find a bar they like and they stay there buzzin bar was packed but the bar next door wasnt so we went in there for a drink or two ... we have enjoyed the city and are coming back next year but wont be staying in jomtein this time .... we paid for 2 weeks in jomtein with flights £2168 for 2 people ...
Nice one mate
Hi Trev Robin Hood ten out of ten !!!
Cheers mate
You say flight prices are a problem, but i got a flight to Thailand in November for £550, one way with Oman, with a 2 hour transfer and 30kg baggage allowance. You'll find it's to do with the person preferences having a direct flight and only flying with a certain air line, so they limit their choices.
Fair play mate
I was just about to book my flight for April just a day before The Thai government change the entry rules so thought I’d wait to see what happens before i book it but then they changed rules again a few days later and at that time the price for the flight was £800 and even that’s isn’t the cheapest but now it’s gone up to nearly £1300 that’s for a direct flight from Heathrow to Bangkok. I’ve been waiting to see if the price goes down a bit but it’s getting more more expensive nearly every day and to be honest I do love Thailand and I’ve been coming to Thailand for nearly 15 years but I’m not paying £1300 for a flight no way. I just feel like I can’t warrant that much money for a single flight. Im lucky cos I can afford it but I’m sure there’s loads of other people that don’t even earn £1300 a month. I’m still hoping the price will go down so let’s wait-and-see
Climate thank you for sharing your experience and yes I totally agree the price of flights right now is off the radar
Hi mate.... same problem, direct flights all around £1.2k from London. So I bit the bullet and booked a one-stop flight £489...... but that's one way!! Leaving on Sunday.... 👍🙂
@@davids736 One way,how will you get back?
@@routmaster38 By boat
New bars seem to be opening up daily, in Jomtien’s Rompho market, and I cannot understand why! Also in this area is my favorite restaurant, which is tremendous value for money, that’s if you can get a table these days, but by far the best place I’ve been too out here for quality food, Oregano restaurant, Rompho bar area. Next door is Bootleggars bar, which has the best quality pool tables out here too. At the top end of Rompho, is the Barbeque restaurant, which is packed every evening too, which indicates its value for money too. 😁😁 🙏🏻🙏🏻 Treetown has never been my scene, LK Metro is nothing like it used to be either, but Pattaya is what it is. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Was around there the other day and it seemed very quiet
Been going to Thailand for 25 years but won't be back any time soon too expensive now and it seems the girls weight has gone up at the same rate as inflation
I never realized inflation was so high LOL
Thanks for your advice. I’m out there in 3 weeks
Nice one mate
W.HI TREV, WAS UN PATTAYA NOV/DEC, WENT IN GEORDIE BAR 2 ON SOI BUAKOU, HAD TO PAY FOR POOL AND 90 BAHT A BEER. HAD 1 BEER AND LEFT, NO ONE IN BAR AND A FEW GIRLS.
Yeah I took 7 guys in and they said pay for pool some drank up and left
May's Pattaya is amazing. Best thai food ive had ever. Not cheap at all but extremely high quality
Thanks for the tips
Walking street is completely threw the roof on price! I went 2 nights on a recent trip and couldn't beleive the cost of a a few hours there , for a first timer going there id recommend go and check it out but for a fantastic night out I would recommend start in tree town and then you have soi pothole and lk metro within a short walk beside you and you can have a fantastic night for a fraction of a night in Walking street will cost ( just my opinion)
Many people say the same as you mate, you are not alone
I paid £915 for a flight from Manchester to BKK on the 23 Feb by Emirates who were the cheapest for short stop overs and the very best airline in my view by using the great Airbus A380,s. Also I checked similar flights for November that were offered for £650.
Thanks for sharing mate, hope you have a great holiday
Less crowds is better when visiting but not good for the economy.😊
Yeah fair one
I’m coming to Thailand in 6 weeks and I brought my flight last year with Qatar Airways through Skyscanner for £637 and that is the lowest price I’ve seen for the flights I wanted. Think prices will stay high because not just the price of fuel but some airlines were giving 10% extra of the cost of your airplane ticket if you cancelled during covid and asked for a voucher to use on another date, so the airlines have to try and get that money back too.
Nice one mate have a great time
The price of flights will remain a major issue. Pre Covid I was paying £600 direct from London to Bangkok, now I am expected to pay £1000 plus, that will deter a lot of tourists especially the 14 day tourist.
I have heard some people say they've managed to get a deal but they were booking far in advance
Deter ??, mate you’d be shocked if you went phuket today
@@russzippo9640 I won’t be going to Phuket today, or any other day.
@@Jimmyredcab yeah, would be my advice too pal. But there not being deterred. Maybe a backlash once the covid pent up have got it out the system. Unless it’s putins doing a stealth invasion
@@russzippo9640 "Little Moscow"........
Flights will stay expensive from UK & Europe while there is no overflying Russia and when the oil price drops. Routes are longer and more fuel needed.
Also while there is more demand over supply, the price is high. I suspect things will improve when the likes of BA return and other carriers offer daily flights.
Got your mate thank you for sharing
The biggest complaint I heard from men is Agogo LT is now capped at 5 hours. Some leave after 3 hours. More expensive LT and shorter time- time shrinkflation + higher prices 🤣
Wow not heard that but am sure it's out there
Places I'd use, Korandos for pizza, Kiss Food for a mixture of all sorts, the market off Soi Buakhao for Thai/Viet style dishes, Cheap Charlies for English and Thai. There are many decent Indian restaurants for a curry. The bbq lady on the corner of LK/Diana or the chicken kebab guy on Soi Diana opp Area 51 for a late night top up. The choices seem endless.
Great suggestions thank you
I like to eat at Casa Pascal when I want to treat myself. Beefeater for steaks is very nice too.
Hopefully going to interview Pascal soon
Booked for 5 nights in Thailand as stop over to Bali and Gili Islands, arriving 25th May.
Really good deal in premium economy on Austrian and Swiss.
Will be staying in Pattaya, looking for a relaxing stay, gay, sun, nice food, exploring the area a bit.
Have a fantastic time it sounds like you've got a great adventure ahead of you
20:00 Regarding building a new condo at tree town; If this happens it will most certainly add to the road congestion in that area which is really not desirable.
Very good point
the problem that the small bars have - is that there are just so many of them nad they area ll the same.
which one do you choose?
probably the best model is the corner bar under Nikom court- cnr of soi buakhao and soi Dianna,
get your long neck beer out of the fridge, pay the cashier 70b, and sit down.
easy no bar tab and well priced.
Yeah fair point mate
I'll be there for 2 weeks in April. Doesn't matter how busy it is, as long as there's 14 different girls for me I'm good to go. 😜
hahaha nice one
Your in for a shock!
I use skyscanner to get a selection of flights, then use Expedia to book with a particular airline, or go directly to the airline. My next trip is with China Air, booked through Expedia. My price was the same in August last year. Still, $300 higher than in 2017. I can't complain.
Thank you for the advice
I'm coming out again at the beginning of march ! Had a great time in November! Is it easy to book a room on the day ? Are there a few vacancies ?
Easy
I would book ahead just to be safe
Good informative vlogg mate 👍
Thank you
I visited during January/February 2023. The visit before that was before covid. The general athmosphere def had changed A LOT. It was not nearly as busy as it was before covid and also service in restaurants/bars was very different than before (and I mean this in a negative way). I kept wondering that what on earth is the matter, and came to the conclusion that the staff is simply inexperienced. Everybody lost their jobs during lockdown and many workers moved on. Currently they have loads of new people who just haven’t learned the job yet. And it SHOWS. Also people generally seemed a lot more gloomy than before, but then again, that’s only natural after all this horrible mess. Maybe it will stabilize in a year or two.
EDIT: I also found some places almost completely deserted. And I mean places that used to be busy before. Lots of businesses closed. So the effects of covid are definitely visible.
Thank you for sharing your experience I enjoyed reading that and yes you are correct there is a lot of inexperience here right now
As of 5 March 2023 the prices have increased a lot , hotels up by 40% + One month ago was much less expensive.
Either it is time to go out of tourists traps up north to small towns or try different countries like Vietnam, Cambodia etc.
gotcha mate
In my opinion not that it counts for anything, I can only talk from personal experience. As a frequent visitor I see price increases. Now if I have a budget of £2k for cheeky trip and the flights are costing double, taxi from airport and some hotels 25% more , even ice coffee is 25% more so my 2k is still 2k but pre Covid my 2k was split 50/50 1k travel, food etc. and 1k for booze n entertainment, now my 2k is 70/30 . Meaning the bars get less of my holiday spends . Some of you might say well bring more money, but as I already said I’m a frequent visitor and not one of them guys who visit once every 18 months save all that time and have a proper blow out. Fair play if that’s you but I personally prefer a piece of pie every 3 months than the whole pie once a year and sit back in England sad for 18 months
Price increases have a lot to answer for
If you book 6 months ahead the flights are reasonable priced. From Australia the prices are only about 10% more than 2019 prices atm
Cheers mate
After Songkran it will be a hard grind for bars.
I agree
I’m probably just a few years away from retirement, and I’ve been thinking about maybe retiring here. But I think I will do a couple vacation trips first, just to check it out and see how I like it. So, as a first timer going there, what’s the most important thing I should know about this place?
Defo check it out first mate, most important is to take each day by day and trust only yourself
@@Buzzinpattaya so, when you go around to do stuff, do you just pay for everything in cash?
Trev it's Feb - cheapest flights for a reason, low season? Every girl on my line have said it's dead atm. Was banging over the Crhistmas period but I recon come April it'll work out
Feb is not low season mate, normally banging here (excuse the pun) high season is always Dec - April as it's Europe's winter time. I would say the girls are right, it is quiet but then when most are charging at least a 50% increase on prices before they have to ask themselves why mate
@@Buzzinpattaya Presumed it would be hence the cheap flights, but then I guess it makes it more appealing. It's alrigtht mate... pun taken ;)
Thanks Trevor very interesting. Surely competition should keep prices low. In other words, you would think that each bar,business etc, would be trying to encourage punters in with slightly lower prices. Perhaps if the Dark Side bars offered lower prices then that’s where most people would go and put pressure in the rest. Thanks again, it’s good to put things in perspective.
mate that makes sense, enough said lol
As a westerner I agree with your opinion, but Thailand does not always operate by the rules of supply and demand. I don't know why, it is just the way it is.
Regarding the prices of "entertainment" lf it keeps spiralling it will kill the golden goose, girls more expensive,flights more expensive,baht 40 to £ all adds up to a more expensive experience.l will be here this week,so l will compare it to my recent trip in September 2022
Well said
Flights from the States kinda all over the place. I paid about 1k usd in June, 1k in August, 1k in October, had to skip Jan due to flight prices. Flight for tonight was just under 900usd and $819 for May. So coming down. This was the first time I couldn't get a decent price in January. Compare with about $740 pre Covid from SFO.
Another problem is 17 inch seats because for 14 to 16 hours it’s torturous.
He speaks a hardened visitor as you're coming out every other month fair play to you my friend that's fantastic and I'm glad the price is coming down now
just a few things, the hotel i reserved for my upcoming trip dropped the price twice so the hotel prices are fairly decent to good at the moment and i understand it will be in low season but whatevs...lk metro has been and continues to be a great place for a night out with soi buakhao and tree town following...the thing is a lot of places are open now with few customers and that definitely plays a part
Thanks for sharing!
I believe the Pattaya red light area will go down same route as the old seaman's quarters in Hamburg(Reeperbahn) and Antwerp. What was once a lively area full of bars, girls and happy sailors are now all gone and remaining are some tattooed women behind windows and some sex shops for sake of tourist attraction, the rest are cafe's, restaurants and pubs for the young and party going crowd. It will take some time, but I am sure it will happen also for Pattaya, it has has similar roots.
Oh the fun days of Hamburg, remembers those well
@@Buzzinpattaya you were in the Navy?
Pattaya has always limped along, it has had great years, average years and bad years but it always limps along during the bad ones. Even without the girls it is still a good night out. As Trevor said the food on offer here is amazing, fantastic hotels and the weather is great, loads of sports bars to watch the footie etc. As for the prices it is the same where ever you go these days, they have all gone up and Thailand is no different.
It will always be here I just don't know what condition
I was there in November for 2 weeks and had a great time. The Wuhan virus killed the hotel I used for the last 20 years, so now at the Areca in a few weeks when I return my favorite restaurants are the robin hood, sea zone and the beer garden. LK metro is the spot. I was a regular at Sapphire but they're now pushing 5 lady drinks before you can bar fine a girl. Fukk dat. Overall though I found the prices almost he same as before. Tree town? Wasn't impressed. I didn't see any over a 5 tops.
Glad you had a good time mate, thanks for sharing
I'm flying direct from Heathrow to Bangkok, return, this is £246 more than in 2019 (£840). All I can say is go direct to the airline.
Thanks for sharing
I was in windmill last week it was 90b a beer. Kink also cheap
90B is decent, Kink is 145B
@@Buzzinpattaya good for what you get though!
glad to have had the experience of being here in pattaya in the early 90's...bamboo bars
I can imagine mate
I honestly don't think prices have changed a lot for hotels,food and drink but flights definitely have and by sounds of it bargirls too and standards are way down than pre COVID but the main problem specially for us Brits is the pound is so weak across the world nowhere outside of UK is a cheap holiday anymore sadly
Thanks mate much appreciated
nighttime meals- cnr 3rd road and soi pothole, 70-100b and good solid Thai food- laminex tables, aluminum chairs, under cover but open.
. breakfast- hard-to-beat cheap charlies.
Thanks for the tips!
So trev..i been coming to pattaya years..your telling me its over for the normal punter...you will need at least 150 to 200 pounds a day for a 2 week good time.for sure
What I'm saying is that when you talk about being a normal punter I guess what you causes normal determines the amount of money you need but what I am saying is if you go into places like walking Street for example then yes you're going to need some money
I’ve seen single tickets as low as £300 to BKK if you can travel on given availability date with two stops and self check in ETA up to 50hrs. But you’ll defiantly need a few massages to recover from that
That is a crazy traveling time no matter what money is
Hope it’s good I land Thursday
Safe travels mate