The way Shadow is constantly updating and improving and how much we can do with Quest 2 already, VR Cloud gaming is certainly here to stay and will be mainstream a lot sooner than what you'd think. I've has Shadow for 2 years now and I kid you not the Devs have improved the service every month and each improvement is more mind blowing than the last.
@@skiethefolf8247 quest 2 is $299. Shadow is $11.99 a month. Quest 2 doesn't use a subscription service. Moat quest 2 games are under $20 or free And you gotta buy games no matter what route you go. But I guess you can hate if you want
It can be done with Shadow and their Mobile app - as long as you have unlimited internet you can just connect your quest to your personal wifi hotspot on your smartphone. I have played Asgard's Wrath in my garden with my phone in my pocket !
@@RobertDodge hey man you know you really really shouldn’t play your vr outside or in clear sunlight as the suns bright rays will destroy your camera sensors, and melt your screen pixels as the glass eye lenses act like a magnifying glass
Awesome, you finally mentioned it, I been playing low quality short games because I don't have a powerful pc and I think this is definitely the Future!
Mike, You continue to produce interesting and thought provoking content. More than just gameplay and reviews. Cloud VR would make VR accessible to a wider audience. We now just need more companies to compete with the quest.
Honestly facebook needs to invest in offering it as a subscription. With there mega data servers in alot of countries which could then boost quest sales even more
I've never thought about this as a service and, man, this is genius. Seriously. And, cloud for all things in the future... yup. I would put my money on that.
I've tested this out myself, being able to play pcvr staples like half life alyx and boneworks on the quest 2 totally wirelessly and without a pc is incredible!
Literally 10 minutes ago, i was thinking "Erh, Gaming PC are so expensive. I wonder if i could use a shadow with the virtual desktop". Right after, your video popped in my suggestions. Each question I had, you answered it. So, thank you.
Hey Mike, I just got Shadow access two weeks ago (3 month wait) for access to Microsoft Flight Sim, and share your view. It's not perfect but it is amazing. I signed up originally just for MSFT Flight Sim and over xmas they announced VR and after a lot of faffing around getting it working is AMAZING. It's fully playable and intensely immersive. Oculus 2 > Virtual Desktop > Shadow PC > Steam VR > Xbox Game Pass £1 for 3 months :) > MSFT Flight Sim.
I played through the entirety of Half-Life Alyx on Shadow, and having also played it through on my local PC since then I can attest to the amazing voodoo witchcraft or whatever it is that makes Shadow/Cloud gaming work - it was almost indistinguishable. It's crazy to me that regular 2D desktop gaming works via the cloud, let alone full 360º VR gaming, but somehow they've cracked it. It's not without its flaws, however; becuase you're dependent on network conditions which can vary from day to day, sometimes it can be suddenly laggy or even disconnect, and getting it started can be tricky sometimes (especially as the system times out after 15-30 mins if you take a break for lunch or something) but when it works it's brilliant. I hope shadow go from strength to strength; I know they're currently working on a native Oculus Quest client app, but it's buggy as hell at the moment and I haven't managed to get connected...but Virtual Desktop works great!
so strange, I had awful lag and was completely unplayable, and I was completely disappointed by it. Pretty sure it has to do with my setup and how far I am from the server (Canadian, using Michigan US server)
Been using shadow PC in conjunction with virtual desktop since around June last year on my quest. Absolute game changer and have never looked back since.
@@apollo8347 Shadow just provides you a PC where you can purchase your own PCVR games on. Although, of you have crossbuy games on the Oculus store, then technically those will already be owned/free on your Shadow PC.
I just got shadow and this was super helpful. Thanks. I just found out since I just got virtual desktop: You no longer need a patch for virtual desktop to play PCVR stuff. Game on!
This is what I've been asking for since the beginning of the Quest 1! I've been using GeForce NOW since its early beta and us moonlight streaming often from my own PC.
I’ve had shadow for over 2 years and can attest that wile they are still a smaller company with growing to do. It’s been a great experience for the price.
I signed up for ShadowPC immediately after watching this. It took me about 2 weeks to be granted access to Shadow. I'm on hotel wifi (15mbps) and it actually works really well with Flight Simulator 2020...I even tried VR on Quest 2 and it sucks majorly, but my hotel is 1500 miles from the datacenter and my house is 100 miles...can't wait to try it when I get home!!!
@@xaviervernon6178 Mbps and MB/s are different. I get 20mbps download but when it is mbs it is 2.5 download. One megabyte per second equals to 8 megabits per second.
OK I brought the quest 2 I haven't got my shadow app to work but this quest is awesome 👏 I'll never watch movies on my tablet, phone, or t.v. again. I'm 56 years old but this tech is awesome
Mike, I have been using Shadow for nearly 2 years now and the service is superb what is the issue is the company themselves they now have something that is bigger than they ever thought it would be. Back in Late October 2019 they teamed up with US company Equinix who are now calling more of the shots hence why the EU have gotten a little left behind. It is also where (The US) they are beta testing a VR element to shadow. I have a preorder for my Ultimate Tier Shadow which was placed on day 1 of preorders which was the 29th October 2019 and they have constantly pushed this back and we still have no confirmed dates as to when we will receive this except Spring 2021 which due to the pandemic could be anytime, They are never clear with their customers either. So by the time those who preordered their top tier it will be obsolete and not worth the cost as it was back in late 2019. But for anyone else reading this get yourself the Boost tier until things are sorted out you will be amazed at what you can do with it. *sorry this was so long but people need to know what they are getting into before they sign on the dotted line* Rob
Yeah man! I was originally so surprised how good it works! Even when I’m at my friends and they have 2.4ghz WiFi it still works with sometimes a low of 15ms of latency!
eat your heart out Ebay scalpers I'm playing Half-Life: Alyx edit: never mind it was all out of stock and I just nabbed a new graphics card and virtual desktop right after.
I was visiting home for the holidays and left my gaming PC behind, but remotely accessed it to play VR-games with my Oculus Quest that i bought from a friend of mine while i was home, 650 miles away. The experience wasn't perfect, but playing Half-Life: Alyx on a PC on the other side of the country was a surprisingly pleasant experience. Honestly, as long as your internet connection is stable and fast enough, the difference between playing miles away from your PC through virtual desktop and playing right next to it with virtual desktop is so small i probably wouldn't notice it.
You just sold me on VR. Been using Shadow for 2 years now, love their service. Knowing how well Oculus and Shadow work together has made my decision much easier. PC/VR gaming for life, forget console gaming. BTW I stream shadow to LG smart TV as well and just hook up keyboard and mouse.
Holy hell! This is a game-changer for an Apple device household. I'm not a hardcore gamer but there's a lot of PC VR games I would like to try out. THIS changes everything! I don't have to buy any additional hardware that I don't want plus take advantage of my 5G 90mbps internet service. This is perfect!
I'm so glad you covered this. This has been on my radar and it's nice to have the Virtual Reality Oasis stamp of approval. Do you think we should go ahead and play Half Life Alyx on the Shadow Boost? Or should we wait for access to the higher end cloud plans to be available? Thanks again!
@@VirtualRealityOasis indeed that is what you have to do. If I remember well you cannot even get the extra stuff from their website, you need to have boost first and then sign up for an extra plan from inside boost. But that is for boost that if you order it now you'll get it in july.
@@harf4ng Yes the pandemic has severely hampered activations if your interested get on the waiting list as once your activated you have 30 days to try it and cancelling will cost you nothing.
All I can think seeing him sit in that chair playing squadrons is "good...Good, let the hate flow through you." But I'm thrilled there's a new avenue to make VR more viable to the masses. with services like this someone can have higher end experiences for the price of the Quest 2, and a monthly subscription (though technically also the cost of internet and a router.)
I have already ordered this just waiting to be activated apparently it’s gonna be happening half way through this year but I’m sure it’s worth the wait
I've been waiting since early december and should get mine activated soon, good luck with yours! mine may be activated earlier than originally said so there is hope.
You'd still wanna get a gaming pc as of now I had all three tiers and it's definitely good to see how pcvr is prior to buying one but huge difference in quality experience when having the physical pc
I've been a Shadow user for over 2 years and been an infinite subscriber since it was announced. Knowing I can now do VR with it just makes me love the service more. time to buy a Quest 2. Great review
I did that too! I traded away my Quest the weekend after Quest 2 was announced before it lost too much value, I got a Switch out of the trade so I didn't lose much value-wise
because of this video I ordered my shadow while the people biding for it so I paid the 11.99 but with honey I paid 6 and it said it would be ready in Dec 31 this year but because the other people bid the highest won the fight for it and I am glad I did because now it is 30 dollars and it is coming this month on the 26th I am so excited to use my quest 2 thanks for the video have a bless week end!!!
@@rowannonya7203 Yes, 100%. Install Skyrim VR on your Shadow PC, an use Virtual Desktop to stream to your headset. As long as the game supports Oculus, it should work.
You can buy your games though steam though. So you own the games, but not the windows computer. Which means, you can just buy another computer later in life, or a different virtual PC, and download your games again through steam using the same steam account.
The issues with latency never goes away. I play wow for years and i know that latency needs to be as low as 20 so you wont feel it. And that latency cant be reach if you want to use internet and wifi together. Specially for VR that all your body moves, having latency even 50 ms sucks i think. but well its good to have options. maybe some people wont have enough money to buy a good pc. If the server is strong enough and the internet can keep like 30 ms, it works nicely for these people i think.
I use a Shadow in Paris from the UK. I regularly use No Man's Sky, Elite Dangerous, Project Cars 2 and Flight Simulator 2020. I run a Virgin Media Hub3 5g router. Some games need tweaking (fs2020 especially) but I am really amazed how well it runs. I can run it all through my phone!! I am looking forward to the final release of the Shadow app on the Quest.
That's true, I think they were one of the first services when it comes to cloud gaming, the fact that they're still around and evolving is a statement nowadays
@@hugh_gene i still use it and I'm not ending my subscription anytime soon. Yeah they were some of the first offering such level of freedom in a cloud pc for gaming for such a price. They had to make a name by keeping price low and I think the whole bankruptcy thing was scripted and forecasted to evolve into a new company and then double the price. Nonetheless 30€ X month is 360€ per year which for a good gaming rig, means at least 5 years of subscription worth (to have a comparable pc you need to spend in-between 1200/1500€) and they keep evolving, offering services and stuff. Plus I can run it anywhere, I don't have manteinance costs (no broken hard disks, no broken pc parts) and easy life if windows breaks and doesn't start again (just reset the whole thing and in 30 Mins you have a fully new win 10 machine). I'm so glad this exists
Man, I was preparing to spend $3,000-$4,000 for a high end gaming PC...I just signed up for Shadow. Even the high end $40/month plan is a steal compared to a $4,000 PC. Less electricity usage for me too.
Thanks for this video ! This is exactly what I need as I have no idea on how to run a pc and don’t really have the money to spend on buying one and keep updating it. Thanks a million Mike
"Is The Future Of VR In The CLOUD?" Probably if Facebook has anything to say about it, because it means it can control every part of the service and experience, and there will come some advantages and a lot of disadvantages with that.
Our nearest shadow data centre is in Paris and its not an issue No VPN is required, they do have plans to probably build a data centre in the UK at some point but unfortunately the current pandemic has slowed progress down somewhat hence why many are still waiting for access to the service.
I don’t know. For the Netherlands it’s supposed to be available in June. Don’t know how it would turn out for London but I would expect the same though.
Shadow is available in the UK without VPN. However, there is a long waiting list. I ordered my subscription in December and it won't be ready until June.
Been using shadow vr and this is a very well done review. Running on a cheap pc and using oculus it is a fantastic way to access PCVR, I play blade and sorcery with a 1000mb connection and still experience a decent amount of lag. Frame rates can go up and down depending on size of the game, but it is definitely worth the price of what being paid for. I’m using shadow boost on an annual plan and I recommend it for people who want to experience steam vr. Of course do not come with the highest expectations but rather with the optimistic mindset that u are being given the opportunity to try something out at a stupid cheap price. For people who do not have a pc I would rather recommend having one, needing a good pc again is not required. I bought a random $50 pc off OfferUp which is a HP COMPOQ 4000 PRO SMALL FROM FACTOR and I’m still able to use mods on oculus as well with it. Again highly recommend trying out shadow if available for you. Mine took 3weeks for mine to come in and hopefully it can come quicker for u if u decide to hop on the wave, if y’all have any questions it can be scary to go into shadow vr as not many people are using it. But respond to this or txt my IG if u need any help!
Have this service and it’s awesome. In Chicago they have a Shadow Ultra tier with RTX 2080 performance. I use this and it’s a big improvement over the vanilla Shadow Boost that Mike is reviewing here. I use it for MFS 2020 and Squadrons, and launch the service through my phone connected to Xbox controller (neither game supports Oculus controllers). It’s remarkable to launch and play heavy PC games without even having to turn on a PC or laptop. You need a low latency connection for this to work well. I’m at 15ms.
10000000% yes I've been saying it for years, and playing stadia only justifies what i have been saying. Cloud gaming is the Future, actaully, cloud computing is the future.
This was the first thing I imagined when I booted up virtual desktop wirelessly for the first time. Low key when I move I might just beef up my phone, have a subscription of this, bring my mouse and keyboard and use the headset for my monitor until I can afford a solid pc.
I use the service for about two years now and VR since the Quest 2 release and loving it! However once you have signed up for Shadow. Prepare for a long wait till your Shadow PC is active.
Thanks for another great video, just signed up to shadow but for your info im being given the start date as: Ordered on 20 January 2021 Available on September 30, 2021
@@kaidanalexander2840 yeah... I ordered on the 26. November 2020... and I’ll get activated at the 24. March 2021... but in some states in USA, there a waiting time of under two weeks...
Thanks for the video. Some times ago, I used a Shadow and it was awesome. Sadly I heard that they are in financial trouble at the moment, they need investers. I hope they will make it.
Pretty cool. But i have no confidence that the latency will be fixed any time soon. I'm still waiting for the seamless 1 to 1 perfect wireless experience from a PC...( that's getting quite close with VD and Wifi6.)
Love my Shadow! Been using it for well over a year and just recently with VR. One of my favorite use cases is to mange my cloud game libraries to play pancake style on an iPad Pro.
After having a dabble of VR via the cloud with Quest 2 & Shadow......mind blown! But it's not quite there yet. Much like cloud gaming doesn't quite enable you to really play fast paced shooters. It's close, maybe a few short years, but imho (I'm sat here with a 3080, 5800x, 32gb ram) after spending 3 years with shadow, I genuinely feel it's the future. I bought my own PC just to get a good feel for PCVR, and the difference is noticeable. Cloud gaming WILL take over....it's very very close. Edit: thought it worth adding that my latency to Paris server from UK often differs between 17-25ms. Better than the UA-camrs connection. I guess some are just more sensitive to that latency than others. This is not a hate on Shadow...Blade are WELL ahead of other cloud services. Absolutely brilliant service and something I highly recommend trying.
That’s a great idea but who knows if it’s gonna be in the near future ? Like you said maybe 5 or 10 years, and not everyone have great internet connection. If i wanna focus on the present, what should i do ? Buy a quest 2 or go to pcvr like index or hp reverb G2 ? Should i wait for a new headset to invest on in the near future ? Those are the questions that we should all be asking in my opinion.
Shadow is my daily driver PC. I'm currently on Boost but will be upgrading to ultra or infinite as soon as I can. Combine Shadow with Gamepass Ultimate and you have the best bang for your buck IMO. Latency will always be an issue but Shadow manages it extremely well.
This is how I play my pc exclusive vr titles. It works great. A little compression artifacts but the latency is not noticeable to me. This actually works better than streaming 2d games from any service i’ve used.
I've been using this for a while on my Quest 1, and I suggest once your Shadow gets activated, have the Virtual Desktop Streamer, Oculus, and Steam open. Open Task Manager and go to More Details, right click on Virtual Desktop Streamer and click Go to Details. Once you're in there, you want to scroll down until you see VirtualDesktopStreamer.exe and VirtualDesktopService.exe You want to right click on VirtualDesktopService.exe and hover over Priority, and switch it to Realtime. Do the same thing with VirtualDesktopStreamer.exe, they should be right next to eachother. Doing that reduced SO much lag for me and I am having a very smooth experience and am not noticing much latency or screen tearing. Make sure you have 5G internet, it works best with that. By the way it's pretty obvious, but once everything is done, you have to have a VR game on Steam or Oculus and then you go into Games, and click one of them lol.
Why use a cloud PC with extra latency and cost when you can just use the Quest 2 normally? It is quite capable. Also, the description says that the game is GTA V.
The way Shadow is constantly updating and improving and how much we can do with Quest 2 already, VR Cloud gaming is certainly here to stay and will be mainstream a lot sooner than what you'd think. I've has Shadow for 2 years now and I kid you not the Devs have improved the service every month and each improvement is more mind blowing than the last.
I have been making videos and helping ppl with pcvr, quest and shadow for 2 years now... "What if it was available right now today!?" Lol
"hey buy our $500 headset and on top of that, a subscription service to play the games, and on top of that, buy the games"
@@skiethefolf8247 quest 2 is $299. Shadow is $11.99 a month. Quest 2 doesn't use a subscription service. Moat quest 2 games are under $20 or free And you gotta buy games no matter what route you go. But I guess you can hate if you want
@@WhiteRaven___ but if you are using the PC subscription, then you would need to buy the games for the PC.
Its nice, but it's not here to stay. You can't have full body tracking and that is simply is not acceptable
Just got my quest 2 yesterday. And now you drop this knowledge. Thank you a ton
I got mine yesterday too
@@redranger8603 already addicted to echo vr
@@Dullfang2 lol
I got mine today. This is very informative
I played 2hrs of beatsaber but haven’t given echo vr a try yet as i know it can be quite nauseating and i get nauseous easily.
Another step towards the ultimate tether-less experience!
It can be done with Shadow and their Mobile app - as long as you have unlimited internet you can just connect your quest to your personal wifi hotspot on your smartphone. I have played Asgard's Wrath in my garden with my phone in my pocket !
never gear from sao
nerve*
@@RobertDodge hey man you know you really really shouldn’t play your vr outside or in clear sunlight as the suns bright rays will destroy your camera sensors, and melt your screen pixels as the glass eye lenses act like a magnifying glass
Meh I still think it's not worth getting one because it would probaly be cheaper to buy a pc
Awesome, you finally mentioned it, I been playing low quality short games because I don't have a powerful pc and I think this is definitely the Future!
Mike, You continue to produce interesting and thought provoking content. More than just gameplay and reviews. Cloud VR would make VR accessible to a wider audience. We now just need more companies to compete with the quest.
Facebook is capable of thing i think
Honestly facebook needs to invest in offering it as a subscription. With there mega data servers in alot of countries which could then boost quest sales even more
if anyone is interested in trying out cloud gaming: discount code for shadow PC cloudgaming: E2CDC5C
I have been playing vr on Shadow for 2 months, so it’s kinda cool to see that major vr UA-camrs are recommending it now.
I've never thought about this as a service and, man, this is genius. Seriously. And, cloud for all things in the future... yup. I would put my money on that.
a world where you own nothing and only pay subscriptions ..... utopia indeed
@@Kay0Bot lmao
Gaming's generic future overall is in cloud. I've lately been playing around with Stadia and Xbox GamePass Ultimate cloud gaming and I'm sold.
I've tested this out myself, being able to play pcvr staples like half life alyx and boneworks on the quest 2 totally wirelessly and without a pc is incredible!
You need Jesus Romans 10:9
Literally 10 minutes ago, i was thinking "Erh, Gaming PC are so expensive. I wonder if i could use a shadow with the virtual desktop". Right after, your video popped in my suggestions. Each question I had, you answered it. So, thank you.
I’ve been loving my quest 2 since I got it for Christmas, FNAF VR is so fun!
fun...
scary*
The game is amazing I love it
fun... and good are different words
Yeah and not for kids. FNaF is not for kids.
Hey Mike, I just got Shadow access two weeks ago (3 month wait) for access to Microsoft Flight Sim, and share your view. It's not perfect but it is amazing. I signed up originally just for MSFT Flight Sim and over xmas they announced VR and after a lot of faffing around getting it working is AMAZING. It's fully playable and intensely immersive.
Oculus 2 > Virtual Desktop > Shadow PC > Steam VR > Xbox Game Pass £1 for 3 months :) > MSFT Flight Sim.
I played through the entirety of Half-Life Alyx on Shadow, and having also played it through on my local PC since then I can attest to the amazing voodoo witchcraft or whatever it is that makes Shadow/Cloud gaming work - it was almost indistinguishable. It's crazy to me that regular 2D desktop gaming works via the cloud, let alone full 360º VR gaming, but somehow they've cracked it.
It's not without its flaws, however; becuase you're dependent on network conditions which can vary from day to day, sometimes it can be suddenly laggy or even disconnect, and getting it started can be tricky sometimes (especially as the system times out after 15-30 mins if you take a break for lunch or something) but when it works it's brilliant. I hope shadow go from strength to strength; I know they're currently working on a native Oculus Quest client app, but it's buggy as hell at the moment and I haven't managed to get connected...but Virtual Desktop works great!
Did you use Shadow Boost for Half Life or one of the higher plans?
@@venchee4906 Just Boost.
so strange, I had awful lag and was completely unplayable, and I was completely disappointed by it. Pretty sure it has to do with my setup and how far I am from the server (Canadian, using Michigan US server)
My oculus was connected straight to my pc and it was so unbearable to play. The lag was so heavy that I felt upside down 🤮
Is it encrypted
Been using shadow PC in conjunction with virtual desktop since around June last year on my quest. Absolute game changer and have never looked back since.
You need Jesus Romans 10:9
Wow, this Shadow thing is quite a Legend... we should Raid it!
Haha I see what you did there, bravo! []-)
you monster...
lol
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What type of cloud though Mike? Cirrus, Cumulus, Stratus? ;)
I've been using shadow for a year now, love them! and a few months ago i found the way to use shadow for vr and it has made vr so much better for me.
Does it come with vr games or do you have to buy them when you get shadow
@@apollo8347 Did you watch the video?
@@apollo8347 Shadow just provides you a PC where you can purchase your own PCVR games on. Although, of you have crossbuy games on the Oculus store, then technically those will already be owned/free on your Shadow PC.
I just got shadow and this was super helpful. Thanks. I just found out since I just got virtual desktop: You no longer need a patch for virtual desktop to play PCVR stuff. Game on!
I've been looking for something like this for so long, I legit screamed loud when I saw the title
Sadly 6 month wait time
that's the holy grail for me
*_wireless PCVR_*
This is what I've been asking for since the beginning of the Quest 1! I've been using GeForce NOW since its early beta and us moonlight streaming often from my own PC.
So does GeForce NOW allow you to control VR or is Shadow the only service that allows you to do this?
@@SonnyWard nah, can't use it for vr yet. Sorry, shoulda been more clearly
I’ve had shadow for over 2 years and can attest that wile they are still a smaller company with growing to do. It’s been a great experience for the price.
I'm getting my Quest 2 tonight and I can't wait!
Have fun with it! I love mine so much, I hope you love yours too!
Good luck
Try not to throw it off the roof
I just got mine an hour ago!
Coning from a psvr to this...
It’s fricking amazing
Me too! Im so excited get quest 2 me and kelsey loving this!🤩
same mine should be coming in a few hours lmao
I signed up for ShadowPC immediately after watching this. It took me about 2 weeks to be granted access to Shadow. I'm on hotel wifi (15mbps) and it actually works really well with Flight Simulator 2020...I even tried VR on Quest 2 and it sucks majorly, but my hotel is 1500 miles from the datacenter and my house is 100 miles...can't wait to try it when I get home!!!
You need Jesus Romans 10:9
Cries in 15mbps Internet.
Yea mines is 20mbps download and 1mbps and it sucks
Dude I don’t even get a mbps
@@xaviervernon6178 Mbps and MB/s are different. I get 20mbps download but when it is mbs it is 2.5 download. One megabyte per second equals to 8 megabits per second.
My upload Is almost always higher than the download
5g?
OK I brought the quest 2 I haven't got my shadow app to work but this quest is awesome 👏 I'll never watch movies on my tablet, phone, or t.v. again. I'm 56 years old but this tech is awesome
Mike, I have been using Shadow for nearly 2 years now and the service is superb what is the issue is the company themselves they now have something that is bigger than they ever thought it would be. Back in Late October 2019 they teamed up with US company Equinix who are now calling more of the shots hence why the EU have gotten a little left behind. It is also where (The US) they are beta testing a VR element to shadow. I have a preorder for my Ultimate Tier Shadow which was placed on day 1 of preorders which was the 29th October 2019 and they have constantly pushed this back and we still have no confirmed dates as to when we will receive this except Spring 2021 which due to the pandemic could be anytime, They are never clear with their customers either. So by the time those who preordered their top tier it will be obsolete and not worth the cost as it was back in late 2019. But for anyone else reading this get yourself the Boost tier until things are sorted out you will be amazed at what you can do with it. *sorry this was so long but people need to know what they are getting into before they sign on the dotted line* Rob
Oh my damn that is AWESOME man I was wondering when VR cloud gaming was going to start kicking in. Top notch mate as always 🤍
yeeeees i use this allthe time and im soooo exited that somone talks about it it's really great
Yeah man! I was originally so surprised how good it works! Even when I’m at my friends and they have 2.4ghz WiFi it still works with sometimes a low of 15ms of latency!
Bro i absolutely love you videos man. Ever since I got my quest 2 your channel has been my go to for VR content. Keep it up brotha thank you
eat your heart out Ebay scalpers I'm playing Half-Life: Alyx
edit: never mind it was all out of stock and I just nabbed a new graphics card and virtual desktop right after.
There's a bunch of quests out there. they're making them too fast and VR is too much of a niche market for them to be scalped.
Did you try Best Buy in store?
@@Dtr146 That's not even remotely true. Quest is still sold out in every store.
@@sqlevolicious not in oculus store
I was visiting home for the holidays and left my gaming PC behind, but remotely accessed it to play VR-games with my Oculus Quest that i bought from a friend of mine while i was home, 650 miles away. The experience wasn't perfect, but playing Half-Life: Alyx on a PC on the other side of the country was a surprisingly pleasant experience. Honestly, as long as your internet connection is stable and fast enough, the difference between playing miles away from your PC through virtual desktop and playing right next to it with virtual desktop is so small i probably wouldn't notice it.
The mysticle did an awesome vid on this as well!
Sounds like the best way to play MICROSOFT FLIGHT SIMULATOR. Great video Mike!
grandma approved
ok
nice
Lol
You just sold me on VR. Been using Shadow for 2 years now, love their service. Knowing how well Oculus and Shadow work together has made my decision much easier. PC/VR gaming for life, forget console gaming. BTW I stream shadow to LG smart TV as well and just hook up keyboard and mouse.
Does all levels of pc run vrchat?
He finally released this video!!!!!!!!!!!
Holy hell! This is a game-changer for an Apple device household. I'm not a hardcore gamer but there's a lot of PC VR games I would like to try out. THIS changes everything! I don't have to buy any additional hardware that I don't want plus take advantage of my 5G 90mbps internet service. This is perfect!
I'm so glad you covered this. This has been on my radar and it's nice to have the Virtual Reality Oasis stamp of approval. Do you think we should go ahead and play Half Life Alyx on the Shadow Boost? Or should we wait for access to the higher end cloud plans to be available? Thanks again!
Even shadow boost is not available. If you order a shadow now you'll get it in july. A lot of people in waiting lines...
Sign up for Boost and get on the waiting list for the Ultra plan would be what I would do []-)
@@VirtualRealityOasis indeed that is what you have to do. If I remember well you cannot even get the extra stuff from their website, you need to have boost first and then sign up for an extra plan from inside boost. But that is for boost that if you order it now you'll get it in july.
@@VirtualRealityOasis in fact I just checked. If you order boost now you'll get it end of august now.
@@harf4ng Yes the pandemic has severely hampered activations if your interested get on the waiting list as once your activated you have 30 days to try it and cancelling will cost you nothing.
All I can think seeing him sit in that chair playing squadrons is "good...Good, let the hate flow through you."
But I'm thrilled there's a new avenue to make VR more viable to the masses. with services like this someone can have higher end experiences for the price of the Quest 2, and a monthly subscription (though technically also the cost of internet and a router.)
I have already ordered this just waiting to be activated apparently it’s gonna be happening half way through this year but I’m sure it’s worth the wait
had mine since august. 100% worth the wait
I've been waiting since early december and should get mine activated soon, good luck with yours! mine may be activated earlier than originally said so there is hope.
Jesus for the past couple of months I have been searching for people who tested shadow, finally a good use for it thanks
great video! wish i knew about it before i bought my gaming pc a month ago 😂
You'd still wanna get a gaming pc as of now I had all three tiers and it's definitely good to see how pcvr is prior to buying one but huge difference in quality experience when having the physical pc
I've been a Shadow user for over 2 years and been an infinite subscriber since it was announced.
Knowing I can now do VR with it just makes me love the service more. time to buy a Quest 2.
Great review
Bro just buy a pc at that point 😭
Cries in buying quest 1 before the quest 2 was announced
Hey man, when you upgrade you got an easy Christmas hand-me-down to give to someone
@@MrRedstoneready 300 quid hand me down...best be getting me some christmas head for that lol
I did that too! I traded away my Quest the weekend after Quest 2 was announced before it lost too much value, I got a Switch out of the trade so I didn't lose much value-wise
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@@MrRedstoneready Exactly what I did. Gave my son the Quest 1 just picked up the 2
because of this video I ordered my shadow while the people biding for it so I paid the 11.99 but with honey I paid 6 and it said it would be ready in Dec 31 this year but because the other people bid the highest won the fight for it and I am glad I did because now it is 30 dollars and it is coming this month on the 26th I am so excited to use my quest 2 thanks for the video have a bless week end!!!
I’ve had an eye on Shadow a long time but you have to wait months to get it so i don’t want to wait
Yeah Shadow also needs to buy GPU's and CPU's which are not available. So that why you need to wait untill summer.
I mean you might as well buy it now and get in line, especially you should have bought it before Christmas cause that really upped the wait times.
I've been playing Elite Dangerous in VR using Shadow. It's incredible!
Would this be viable for any game, like Skyrim VR ??
@@rowannonya7203 Yes, 100%. Install Skyrim VR on your Shadow PC, an use Virtual Desktop to stream to your headset. As long as the game supports Oculus, it should work.
I just thought of this channel then I get a notification
You can buy your games though steam though. So you own the games, but not the windows computer. Which means, you can just buy another computer later in life, or a different virtual PC, and download your games again through steam using the same steam account.
Super cool, very interesting as a Mac user to be able to access this level of performance - Thank you for the vid!
The issues with latency never goes away. I play wow for years and i know that latency needs to be as low as 20 so you wont feel it. And that latency cant be reach if you want to use internet and wifi together. Specially for VR that all your body moves, having latency even 50 ms sucks i think. but well its good to have options. maybe some people wont have enough money to buy a good pc. If the server is strong enough and the internet can keep like 30 ms, it works nicely for these people i think.
I use a Shadow in Paris from the UK. I regularly use No Man's Sky, Elite Dangerous, Project Cars 2 and Flight Simulator 2020. I run a Virgin Media Hub3 5g router. Some games need tweaking (fs2020 especially) but I am really amazed how well it runs. I can run it all through my phone!! I am looking forward to the final release of the Shadow app on the Quest.
My Internet: Oh? You're approaching me?
Me: I can't use you efficienctly without getting closer
My Internet; Oh Ho! Then come as close as you like
I bought my quest 2 this morning. Can’t wait to get it.
I’ve had mine in one week now. It’s great
@@theo8981 I’ve had the oculus on Samsung Galaxy S7. And that was Really Neat
"there isn't any other service that gives you access to a full blown pc"
me: "what about paperspace?"
It could be interesting for mike to try paperspace as well and then compare/contrast it to shadow
@@redfox5109 that's what I'm hoping for
I own a Shadow and I higly recommend it to everyone. Many water has passed under the bridges of Shadow company and it's still up and running great
That's true, I think they were one of the first services when it comes to cloud gaming, the fact that they're still around and evolving is a statement nowadays
@@hugh_gene i still use it and I'm not ending my subscription anytime soon. Yeah they were some of the first offering such level of freedom in a cloud pc for gaming for such a price. They had to make a name by keeping price low and I think the whole bankruptcy thing was scripted and forecasted to evolve into a new company and then double the price. Nonetheless 30€ X month is 360€ per year which for a good gaming rig, means at least 5 years of subscription worth (to have a comparable pc you need to spend in-between 1200/1500€) and they keep evolving, offering services and stuff.
Plus I can run it anywhere, I don't have manteinance costs (no broken hard disks, no broken pc parts) and easy life if windows breaks and doesn't start again (just reset the whole thing and in 30 Mins you have a fully new win 10 machine).
I'm so glad this exists
One of my friends on vrchat has been doing this for almost a year now
Amazon AWS has workspaces which I have tested and works as well. They have Data centers all across.
This seems really cool, but I think my internet is too slow for this...
same, my internet is trash. It isn't even in mbps it's in kbps
@@zipplings1374 Really? Then this video would take long to load too. You need to set your priorities mate.
@@mink5260 It loads fast but it freezes every 1 or 2 minutes
@@mink5260 If you don't believe me I can send you a screen shot
@@zipplings1374 I believe you
Man, I was preparing to spend $3,000-$4,000 for a high end gaming PC...I just signed up for Shadow. Even the high end $40/month plan is a steal compared to a $4,000 PC. Less electricity usage for me too.
I love how youtube says this video is about GTA V
Thanks for this video ! This is exactly what I need as I have no idea on how to run a pc and don’t really have the money to spend on buying one and keep updating it. Thanks a million Mike
grandpa approved
Cool
I have used this for a year now and its awesome
"Is The Future Of VR In The CLOUD?"
Probably if Facebook has anything to say about it, because it means it can control every part of the service and experience, and there will come some advantages and a lot of disadvantages with that.
Basically you’ll pay to use the device and they can take ownership whenever and you have to agree to it
this man learend me alot about A vr and after 2 years i finally got my first vr headset
vr is the best
I waiting for shadow to be available in London. How did you managed to used here? Did you use a VPN?
Our nearest shadow data centre is in Paris and its not an issue No VPN is required, they do have plans to probably build a data centre in the UK at some point but unfortunately the current pandemic has slowed progress down somewhat hence why many are still waiting for access to the service.
I don’t know. For the Netherlands it’s supposed to be available in June. Don’t know how it would turn out for London but I would expect the same though.
Shadow is available in the UK without VPN. However, there is a long waiting list. I ordered my subscription in December and it won't be ready until June.
Been using shadow vr and this is a very well done review. Running on a cheap pc and using oculus it is a fantastic way to access PCVR, I play blade and sorcery with a 1000mb connection and still experience a decent amount of lag. Frame rates can go up and down depending on size of the game, but it is definitely worth the price of what being paid for. I’m using shadow boost on an annual plan and I recommend it for people who want to experience steam vr. Of course do not come with the highest expectations but rather with the optimistic mindset that u are being given the opportunity to try something out at a stupid cheap price. For people who do not have a pc I would rather recommend having one, needing a good pc again is not required. I bought a random $50 pc off OfferUp which is a HP COMPOQ 4000 PRO SMALL FROM FACTOR and I’m still able to use mods on oculus as well with it. Again highly recommend trying out shadow if available for you. Mine took 3weeks for mine to come in and hopefully it can come quicker for u if u decide to hop on the wave, if y’all have any questions it can be scary to go into shadow vr as not many people are using it. But respond to this or txt my IG if u need any help!
IG: matthewpartida3
who needs shadow when i can play google earth vr at the lowest resolution and graphics settings at 25 fps.
i have a gtx 460 ):
woah i never even thought about this! thats such a smart service. 100% gonna remember this
Did you remember it?
Watchin through a shadow pc rn thanks, man!
Have this service and it’s awesome. In Chicago they have a Shadow Ultra tier with RTX 2080 performance. I use this and it’s a big improvement over the vanilla Shadow Boost that Mike is reviewing here.
I use it for MFS 2020 and Squadrons, and launch the service through my phone connected to Xbox controller (neither game supports Oculus controllers). It’s remarkable to launch and play heavy PC games without even having to turn on a PC or laptop.
You need a low latency connection for this to work well. I’m at 15ms.
10000000% yes I've been saying it for years, and playing stadia only justifies what i have been saying.
Cloud gaming is the Future, actaully, cloud computing is the future.
This was the first thing I imagined when I booted up virtual desktop wirelessly for the first time. Low key when I move I might just beef up my phone, have a subscription of this, bring my mouse and keyboard and use the headset for my monitor until I can afford a solid pc.
I use the service for about two years now and VR since the Quest 2 release and loving it! However once you have signed up for Shadow. Prepare for a long wait till your Shadow PC is active.
Thank you for this, it gives people without a gaming pc a good chance at a reasonable cost experience, thank you for sharing 🙏
Thanks for another great video, just signed up to shadow but for your info im being given the start date as: Ordered on
20 January 2021
Available on
September 30, 2021
I been using this setup with shadow, and agree with you, it will only get better in the future.
I saw another vr youtuber who made a video about Shadow, and I immediately pre-ordered it. It’ll be activated my the 24. March...
so there is a wait now? Also how much are you paying? or are you getting one of the plans with a better graphics card or the base one?
@@g4mer-d3v1l5 in Europe there is... but the the Unites States, there a minimal wait time...
@@Waz0 do you live in europe?
@@kaidanalexander2840 yeah... I ordered on the 26. November 2020... and I’ll get activated at the 24. March 2021... but in some states in USA, there a waiting time of under two weeks...
I Play Population One on my shadow through VD and notice no latency at all. I really recommend for people thinking about investing in a PC
The Shadow Boost specs are pretty much my current PC, which is now at the low end of VR requirements for many new games coming out.
This has been in the works for some time I can’t wait for it to reach where I am in the us
I’ve been using shadow for a while now and it’s served me well
Thanks for the video. Some times ago, I used a Shadow and it was awesome. Sadly I heard that they are in financial trouble at the moment, they need investers. I hope they will make it.
Pretty cool. But i have no confidence that the latency will be fixed any time soon. I'm still waiting for the seamless 1 to 1 perfect wireless experience from a PC...( that's getting quite close with VD and Wifi6.)
Love my Shadow! Been using it for well over a year and just recently with VR. One of my favorite use cases is to mange my cloud game libraries to play pancake style on an iPad Pro.
I've been doing this set up for a few months now. And I'm a fan. Still plan on my own Rig one day but until then. I'll just use shadow
Road to 400k!!!! Keep up great work 👍
After having a dabble of VR via the cloud with Quest 2 & Shadow......mind blown! But it's not quite there yet.
Much like cloud gaming doesn't quite enable you to really play fast paced shooters.
It's close, maybe a few short years, but imho (I'm sat here with a 3080, 5800x, 32gb ram) after spending 3 years with shadow, I genuinely feel it's the future.
I bought my own PC just to get a good feel for PCVR, and the difference is noticeable.
Cloud gaming WILL take over....it's very very close.
Edit: thought it worth adding that my latency to Paris server from UK often differs between 17-25ms. Better than the UA-camrs connection.
I guess some are just more sensitive to that latency than others.
This is not a hate on Shadow...Blade are WELL ahead of other cloud services. Absolutely brilliant service and something I highly recommend trying.
How do we use airlink
That’s a great idea but who knows if it’s gonna be in the near future ? Like you said maybe 5 or 10 years, and not everyone have great internet connection. If i wanna focus on the present, what should i do ? Buy a quest 2 or go to pcvr like index or hp reverb G2 ? Should i wait for a new headset to invest on in the near future ? Those are the questions that we should all be asking in my opinion.
I've used shadow for almost a year and I recommend it as long as you have ethernet or good wifi
Without a doubt that is the future. Cheers Mike!
Shadow is my daily driver PC. I'm currently on Boost but will be upgrading to ultra or infinite as soon as I can. Combine Shadow with Gamepass Ultimate and you have the best bang for your buck IMO. Latency will always be an issue but Shadow manages it extremely well.
This is how I play my pc exclusive vr titles. It works great. A little compression artifacts but the latency is not noticeable to me. This actually works better than streaming 2d games from any service i’ve used.
I've been using this for a while on my Quest 1, and I suggest once your Shadow gets activated, have the Virtual Desktop Streamer, Oculus, and Steam open. Open Task Manager and go to More Details, right click on Virtual Desktop Streamer and click Go to Details. Once you're in there, you want to scroll down until you see VirtualDesktopStreamer.exe and VirtualDesktopService.exe
You want to right click on VirtualDesktopService.exe and hover over Priority, and switch it to Realtime. Do the same thing with VirtualDesktopStreamer.exe, they should be right next to eachother. Doing that reduced SO much lag for me and I am having a very smooth experience and am not noticing much latency or screen tearing. Make sure you have 5G internet, it works best with that.
By the way it's pretty obvious, but once everything is done, you have to have a VR game on Steam or Oculus and then you go into Games, and click one of them lol.
Why use a cloud PC with extra latency and cost when you can just use the Quest 2 normally? It is quite capable.
Also, the description says that the game is GTA V.
Holy Jesus how have I not been subbed to you good sir. I have been watching for such a while!
I have shadow ultra and recommend getting it but if you do have like at least 5ghz WiFi or if you have 2.5 ghz be right next to or close to the router
Why not use the shadow app on the quest itself? Seems way better than having your pc stuck in the middle, adding latency.