It's not hell in the traditional sense, but the torture of the last human in I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream would absolutely classify as hellish to me
I would say it is sufficiently equivalent to be brought up here. What happens is undoubtedly hellish, and AM definitely fits the role of a devil-figure in the situation (doing a great job of it too).
An inescapable, brutal maze, food only when a brutal god determines you can have it, warping and twisting the very atoms of your being into distorted mirrors of what you once were? Then to top it off, once your friends find freedom in death, the enraged god turns you into a monster incapable of the same escape just so it can brutalize you for eternity? Sounds like hell to me
It's where Bluetooth comes from. Harald Bluetooth was a king of denmark who similarly tattooed his teeth blue, thus why the Bluetooth symbol on your phone is a rune. It's named after him. This sounds like absolute bull but I promise it's not.
@@TheTrueGOATS TIL! Thanks for letting me know! I think I have some kind of false memory of reading that they were in fact braces & it was done on purpose to make the Valkyrie seem timeless, maybe I dreamed that lol
i think one problem with depicting haven is that we can't imagine what would be eternal peace and comfort, but we sure can imagine eternal pain and suffering, that is more understandable for us.
The eternal part is the real problem. People tend to view it as simply, "a very long time." When that is completely inaccurate. They can't understand the scale, nobody can. The mind simply isn't able to handle extreme scales, let alone infinite ones.
@bestaround3323 Exactly, i can understand both i think pretty well, maybe more the eternal peace part, but the 'eternal' bit is completely unfathomable to a mortal like me
Also, people don't realize that boredom would be a non-issue in heaven by definition. People refuse to accept that kind of passivity as ideal, despite the fact that it would be. They get all uppity about free will, which is an illusion anyways so there's no problem except that the idea of a perfect existence makes most people uncomfortable and they feel the need to justify that.
@--CHARLIE-- Well, that just gets into the problem of evil discussion. Evil supposedly exists due to free will. If free will is so important that it merits the existence evil, then how can a heaven without it be better? If heaven exists, why have earthly existence at all? It is either illogical and/or cruel. Especially as if said heaven is infinite, as what is the point of a finite life of suffering, then? Wouldn't the logical thing be to end this life as quickly as possible? The issue isn't just a perfect existence. It is an eternal one. Such an existence would be quite similar to oblivion. Unable to truly change or give any kind of meaning in an endless existence. Each moment worth as little as the last, and as much as the next. Is there any point to such a sorry state?
@@bestaround3323There's a thought experiment I really like. "You have a 99% chance of going to heaven, but if you're unfortunate, you go to hell. Your alternative option is to simply not exist" And this is followed by "The option you choose everytime is to simply not exist. Because if you just so happen to be extremely unlucky 1%, you face the absolute worst faith existence can and will ever come up with, a faith that is quite literally impossible to even try and comprehend" The implications of "eternal torture" is so unfathomably cruel, it literally outweighs one's desire for eternal peace just to avoid it.
Might sound boring, but I still think Dante actually did one of the best jobs portraying hell. Not only are the punishments incredibly creative and specific (and of course; cruel) but there’s also a beauty and humanity to it. What I like most about Inferno (although that might just be what I took from it) is the feeling that hell, in its entire structure, is inherently personal. I stepped away from it feeling like this was Dante’s hell only and every single other person would find their own version of hell based on their personal morals. I really enjoyed that.
@@imacg5 that’s exactly what I’m saying. I think it’s fairly palpable when reading the divine comedy. Like, he literally picked his real life enemies to meet in hell while they’re being cruelly punished for eternity.
@@alicelily550honestly, the idea that other people are in your personal Hell is very interesting. Regardless of if they're being tortured or not, they are invading your space. That for me is Hell, go find your own Hell
It's a crazy unique aesthetic, sure, but we don't really know much at all about it. It's cool how the Hell Devil sends people to it. I'm sure Fujimoto will write something interesting about it if he ever brings the story there.
I will never forget how a friend of mine, when trying to explain concepts of Christian hell, described it as an absence of light. No raging fires, no demons poking at you with tridents, but an absence of all feeling, sensation, hope... pure emptiness. And this is also somehow what I dream of when I have a fever. It is so simple, yet so effective. On the other hand I think the best depiction of heaven would be a personal one - ex. a character that had a troubled life gets a moment of peace and everything they wished for, but also the possibility to simply end existance as a whole when they have had their fill
Personally, the idea of any kind of eternal life is a version of hell to me. Existing forever, not only with no end in sight, but one where even the concept of an end is meaningless. There is no relief, no break, and nothing can make the suffering of perpetual existence cease. No matter what it is filled with, infinity is hell. Oblivion is the only way to salvation.
@@bestaround3323That's only if you consider the human mind to work the exact same in whatever place is one going into. I always assumed that in religions the afterlives are different forms of being, they may be similar but we may be "adapted" to be in eternity in a way that it isn't boring (assuming an eternal, pleasant afterlife of course, who knows, some actual hell would indeed be made boring to add to the bad) Just for information I'm not religious, not currently.
@Kastelt But at that point, are we even shattered simulacrums of humans anymore? If the fundamentals of who we are get removed and replaced, is it even us on the other side? Can any shred of a person even survive such a brutal metamorphosis? This, of course, is a verbose way of asking if such drastic change would leave anything left, even resembling the person they once were.
@@bestaround3323 I don't think removing the capacity to experience boredom is that much of a drastic change. Still, even if the change is drastic, sometimes afterlives aren't about keeping identities, for example reincarnations, positive or negative, in Buddhism, while they're not eternal they can last extremely long times, and you don't keep your identity because well, everything is impermanent, including it (no-self, hopefully getting the concept right). So I guess it doesn't ultimately matter (sometimes) if we "lose who we are", now I get that's scary since personally I'm attached to who I am, but still, I guess it's not about me as I am right now after all, if that makes sense. Though I guess I kind of went off topic in that last thing, since after all it's about eternity (my point was just was that's not really about keeping us as we are right now or when we die, so losing ourselves even if scary it's to be expected, again assuming actually removing the capacity for boredom or similar ends up a drastic change or if there's more than that). I hope this comment makes sense because as you've probably already seen I'm not good at explaining what I mean.
One of my favorite genres of video is when a significant chunk of the video veers into an interesting tangent that doesn't necessarily have to do with the original premise.
I love that the line "when hell freezes over" is common parlance for "it will never happen" but in the divine comedy, the lowest level of hell is a frozen wasteland, and the great Satan himself is half trapped in ice
Dante is a genius in way not only "diss track" all his relatives, politicians, preachers and teachers but also introduce a part of hell for journalists when didnt exists yet (circle 8 bolgia 2, but i considered bolgia 9 or 10)
@@Bwall89 I think he was heavily influenced by the Greco-Roman underworld, which itself was divided up into different regions and had different punishments assigned to their respective inhabitants.
Two of my favorite depictions of hell/the afterlife that i can think of would have to be how The Book of Life shows the duality of those places as well as the place 'beyond' what could be considered hell in being forgotten about by those who are still alive. I also always find humor in seeing heaven and hell in Good Omens and how similar they are in their people and work environment, just with two different masks on. Awesome video!
The first time I thought about my own personal hell, I was like five and my mom was taking forever looking at shoes/clothing in the store and I thought it'd be just endless waiting that literally never ends. Not sure I'd say it's stayed my idea of what a personal hell would be, but it's a very distinct memory.
I love Ultrakill's depiction of, not just Hell, but an adaptation of Dante's Inferno and the nine layers. Limbo being this plastic paradise of TV screen walls playing rolling hills and speakers playing bird chirping noises. Greed being a desert so hot it melted flesh, and those who were sentenced there were doomed to carry giant boulders across them. Wrath being an unrelenting storm on an infinite ocean where the Titanic resides. While Heresy sounds like the firey metal-band-music-video Hell usually looks like, Violence is the complete opposite-- a stark white castle of ash, where every violent act is reflected in the stark red that stains it. And this is all in the game where you throw and shoot coins out of the sky as an attack and parry everything including a giant's fists.
My two favourite depictions of "Hell" come from two SCP files: SCP 7179 - _A tropical island with fruits that give you amazing highs, populated by three people who embody your personal sexual preferences. These "people" have no agency, and do whatever you tell them. All injuries are healed, the sun never moves in the sky, and all attempts to leave the island fail. You remain there for eternity. The story follows how someone spends their first 10^100 years on this island. I have never encountered a work or fiction that better encompasses the horrors of living forever than this one._ SCP 7034 - _A high-rise road jammed with traffic and choked with smog, where you move only a few inches every few hours. If you eventually get past this traffic, you find that this raised highway just keeps going and going, with seemingly nothing beneath it. As cars break down or run out of gas, and as people run out of food and water, the stealing and killing starts. Only the most ruthless will make it to the end of this road... where they'll find Hell waiting for them. This story is a masterpiece of existential/psychological horror._ Both are very short, and SUPER worth a read! I intentionally left most of the details out!
To this I'd like to add SCP-2718 - "What Happens After", where an O5 is resurrected and recounts remaining conscious after death and experiencing the rot and decay of his body even as it's pulled apart into its constituent atoms and disintegrated.
I really like SCP 7034 because it reminds me of that one Dr. Who episode where they travel to some planet in the future and it's all just a giant ring of people in flying car traffic.
The Valkyrie doesn't have braces, btw. Skulls from the viking era reveal some warriors made cuts they would sometimes feel with stuff in their teeth. That's what she has
Okay Boomer, the DMV has been fine now that they’re properly funded again after people who fled to the suburbs in fear of diversity moved back to the cities. As well as a lot of things being able to be done online.
Boredom is a devious one. We've gotten so good at mitigating it because of how much we dislike it. We want it to never happen. We can't even go to the bathroom with our thoughts alone anymore.
I really like Doctor Who's depiction of kinda-hell in Heaven Sent. Both extremely tragic, inescapable and perfectly tailored to break the Doctor without physical pain for the most part. Also it's probably one of the best episode in a TV series period
@maxenswlfr1877 I just walked in on my grandparents watching it lol. And don't worry, I was exaggerating; by 'thoroughly traumatised', I just mean it really stuck with me (and scared me out of watching the show for a fair few years) No kids were actually harmed! :)
I think one of the most unique depictions of Hell I have ever seen is the one from the first The Darkness video game, because it is one of the few that I can think of where no one actually enjoys being there. The damned souls are locked in an eternal WW1 battle where they cannot die, but can still be torn apart, so they are all cobbled together from random bits of other people. If you end up at the bottom of one of the pits or get your limbs blown off and are left stranded in No Mans Land, then you're just stuck there forever in a cycle of eternally dying and reanimating over and over again. The demons are permanently left in a state of eternal suffering and misery. Pestilence is tied to a post and is constantly writhing in agony, Famine has no mouth, but has an abundance of food placed right in front of it, War is a quadriplegic left abandoned in the control room of a railway gun and Death is trapped in a dark prison for all eternity. And at the centre of that prison is the Darkness itself, isolated from everything and hooked up to a horrific machine that tears and impales it for eternity which it created for itself after going insane from living countless lifetimes alone with nothing but the worst of humanity to keep it company. There is no content mastermind enjoying the scheming and plans and making the entire place work. There are no cackling demons laughing sadistically as they inflict divine punishment upon the sinners. There are no angels sitting smugly on the side lines with offers of redemption and freedom if you perform a specific task. It is a place of perfect misery, where the suffering is completely self-inflicted and can never stop because everyone involved in it is just too far gone to even realise it's a choice anymore.
Hell in Ultrakill is also really unique, it's basically a huge superorganism that plays with the residents of hell, i.e forcing V1 (the main character of the game) into fights by locking it in rooms
i think my favorite depiction of Hell is literary. In the Discworld book F̶a̶u̶s̶t̶ Eric, Hell starts out as a classic Fire-and-Brimstone Hell, but everyone is going through the motions because nobody has nerve endings anymore - on account of being souls instead of bodies - so it's not the worst thing on the Disc. The King of Discworld Hell - a sort of David Brent type - discovers Corporate Culture - and decides to use it to make Hell a better more pleasant place. In the process he transforms Hell from meaningless torture to something genuinely existentially unpleasant and awful.
I think my personal hell would be like that one time I ate too many eggs before I realized I was severely intolerant to eggs and then was forced to go to a high school auditorium dance party, but in a much smaller room
My favorite rendition of hell has to be in Fujimoto's Chainsaw Man. Hell is a set of doors that houses the domains of different fears. It's a sanctuary that contains all of humanity's worst threats, fed by humanity's darkest imagination. Almost animal-like in the way territory is controlled by the more instinctual, more primordial fears.
For me, the scariest thing about a place like hell is not the place itself; it's that it's eternal. The idea of eternity is agonizing, terrifying and exhausting for me. It doesn't matter if it's good or bad; if it's eternal, it will be my nightmare. PD: " Hahahaa 69 likes"
This is one of the reasons why I hope there's no heaven. I've considered how long I'd be willing to live for and that could be tens of thousands of years, but I'd still want there to be an end, I think.
Being aware forever, whether in hell or in heaven feels like it would be torture to me. People who are welcome to the idea either don't understand just how long eternity actually is, or they simply haven't thought it through.
@@stm7810 That would be one of the few ways it could possibly work. Have your memory removed every so often so you can continue living. Of course how much of you would truly be left is always the question.
I'm not a religious person but I like to think of heaven as being a place where all the stuff on earth doesn't really matter. If you get there before your loved ones well, its just a short wait. No biggie, you're glad they're down there living their life. In the example he gave where you accidentally crash and kill someone else they'd probably say something like "well, accidents happen but you didn't mean it." and you'd both just naturally understand it and accept it. If you got to heaven and your spouse had started dating another person it'd be like "im really glad they got to find someone who touches their heart in a new way" We always think of everything as concrete and final. that theres only 1 way to look at it. we're too stuck in our head to really understand anyone else and id like to imagine in heaven you can just cut through all that bullshit
As a Christian, this is a surprisingly good take on the topic, this is basically what the Bible implies. In summary, everything after this life infinitely outweighs anything that you may experience during it, like a fetus out of a womb or a seed reborn into a tree. That's why, for example, suffering for Christ is worth it, because nothing you could ever suffer here could possibly compare to the glory of what comes right after. So, yeah, I'm really glad you think like this man. I hope you live a beautiful life and, after that, I hope to see you there :D God bless ya and Jesus loves ya :)
From an Islamic perspective people in heaven aren't the same in this world when you enter heaven your heart and mind will be perfectly pure lacking the concept of spite and hatred you will live eternally in heaven any good thing you experience will become better the more you try it you can't mentally or physically get bored from the pleasures of heaven May Allah guide us all to the truth to the right path
I had a dream that I died and went to Heaven, and like maybe I wasn't _quite_ dead yet, because there was a cosmic escalator running back to the mortal plane, slash my body if I wanted, or had any unfinished business. And there were tons of things I could do, or probably _should_ have done, but I was finally at peace... and none of that felt like my responsibility anymore. Needless to say, waking up was depressing...
While Hakita's 'Ultrakill' is directly inspired by Dantes inferno it makes some large creative changes making it feel more industrial in nature. A depiction of hell that leans directly into science fiction and asks you to think not only if robots have a soul and can be damned but does hell itself have a soul too? A world where reality itself feels like a malfunctioning machine that is slowly sputtering out.
I feel like the Mannequins are the most twisted concepts from the game and is a great example of what unending suffering that this rendition of Hell provides
Hell in ultrakill is incredibly terrifying. A living creature made by god wich is horrific enough to make him regret. Something made for the sole purpose of causing pain wich has escaped even it's own creator
ULTRAKILL'S Hell is probably one of my favorite video game settings tbh. It's this sort of visceral, alive thing that eats sinners and recycles them in a sadistic ouroboros. And then you can go fishing sometimes
Ultrakill definitely has my favorite depiction of Limbo at least, where it's a series of claustrophobic rooms and corridors that poorly depict heaven. On the walls there's screens showing green fields as far as the eye can see, forever out of reach. The sound of birds chirping played through cheap speakers behind plastic trees. Chapel rooms with stained glass windows that will never have sunlight shine through them. It's an eternal mockery for the unfaithful
The depiction of Hell in Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey really stuck with me. I also love Little Nicky for subverting it by making two of the characters really happy to end up there because they're metalheads and they just love the aesthetic.
in season six of supernatural there is a scene of crowley’s implementation of hell being a perpetual yellow tinged queue, which goes along nicely with the adventure time depiction, and it’s one of my fave depictions of hell in spn alone
We are performing No Exit at my college, we're doing the Paul Bowles adaptation. I'm stage manager for the show, and I've been having a blast with this show. Honestly, I have to agree and say this is my favorite depiction of Hell.
Hell is worse if they give you a trillion years of heaven first before blinking you straight into the torture. Also the worst hell is an endless void of nothingness, bonus points if they don’t give you a body (even less experiential input). I’ve experienced this in my dreams and it is truly terrifying. If that feels like a cop out, body horror is pretty awful, like if they take your face away so you can’t see hear or breathe, or turn you into a monster, or taking your body away entirely. Even worse if they do stuff to your mind as well, like make you deathly afraid of your own reflection, or make you enjoy doing truly horrible things and then changing you back and let you feel horrible about what you did, changing what you’re afraid of and what you enjoy, or making you blame yourself for things you’re not responsible for, changing your memories, your personality, identity into something it’s not. Etc etc etc. I think about this too much.
My favourite depiction of hell is a literary reference. The hell as depicted in The Third Policeman by Irish writer Flann O'Brien is absurd and extremely unnerving...
I'll always stand by the Library of Babel as my favorite depiction of hell. Being forced to play what is essentially a game of chance to earn the right of redemption is terrifying to me.
@@aleanddragonITA it's just library of babel. Essentially it's just a seeded random letter generator for all possible configurations of characters that can fit on a 3200 char page.
My favorite isn't explicitly a depiction of Hell, but I think has the same effect. It's in the podcast Welcome to Night Vale's 89th episode. Night Vale is being invaded. The protagonist finds a woman he knows, but she is still and silent. He asks what happened to her. She answers. She was made strange. There is a cavern. The floor is covered in mud. She walks through the mud because certainly there must be something else. You walk through the darkness, through the mud, but there is never anything else. For years you walk through the mud. Sometimes you might feel that someone is near, that you can hear them moving through the mud, searching like you are for anything else, but your hands never touch and you cannot speak. You are alone. Sometimes the mud is over you head. Sometimes is a barely there dampness under your feet. And as you walk you are hollowed out. And as you are hollowed something replaces you. And as something replaces you, you are filled with it's desire for absolute nothing. The protagonist asks her when she escaped the mud to come back to Night Vale. She tells him that she is still in the mud. Her body is here. She is still in the mud. Tears are streaming down her face. She is still in the mud. The protagonist runs. It gives me chills. Every. Single. Time.
omg yes !!! that was truly horrifying! that two part episode had my favorite depiction of the devil too. that innocent looking beagle puppy that then stands up on two feet, panting loud and heavy and upsetting human. asking “WHO’S A GOOD BOY?” compelling you to answer and be forever lost in doing so it sounds goofy but the way cecil voiced that damn dog… gives me chills
It has some scenes right out of paintings, snd how it’s described in parts of Dante’s Inferno. The movie has a lot of things, that I just don’t care for, but I’ve always enjoyed it anyway. The cinematography is excellent, and quite beautiful.
I think what *Heaven Can Wait* is exploring is what it means for Joe to be Joe. Is his body what makes him Joe? No, he still has his saxophone and desire to win the superbowl. But then at the end he wins the superbowl and loses his saxophone. So who is he now? Probably not Joe, because his traits are all gone. But he is however, happy. He succeeded, so its time for a new life. Heaven can wait.
My favorite depiction of Hell is in Jean-Paul Sartre play No Exit. We are doing the Paul Bowles adaptation at my college and I am the Stage Manager for the show. I am having a blast working on this show with my friends and our amazing Director. This has cemented it as my favorite depiction of Hell.
This seems like a film channel, but the meticulously crafted hell from ultrakill and how it feels almost like a continuation of Dantes inferno after the death of humanity is a fascinating depiction.
For me, my personal hell would likely be either watching suffering and being unable to do anything about it, or causing suffering and being unable to stop it
Many people have already mentioned it, but Ultrakill's rendition of the place of eternal torment is probably my favorite, and not just due to the novelty of being a sapient version of the place. From all of the red text we see thoughout the game, it can be inferred that Hell is simultaneously hilarious and sophisticated, saying stuff like "WE'RE GONNA NEED A BIGGER BOOM" and "YOU'RE THE STAR OF THE SHOW NOW, BABY", while V1 is killing for blood, but will also sprout amazing theatrics with it's memetic "YOU WERE LIKE ANTENNAS TO HEAVEN" speech. Hell is brimming with personality in Ultrakill, maybe more than any character in the game.
I'll have to watch this video in full later, but Hell is always around us, it's pure pleasure until we get tired of it, and move on, then a new Hell comes in the form of the same, but different. A constant lesson. There is no physical place, just a lesson in what no longer is necessary for us and something for us to learn from. It was listening to an in-depth analysis of Donta Inferno that made me realize this, and the two other works Purgatorio and Paradiso.
I was honestly surprised "What Dreams May Come" wasn't on this list. The book is more interesting because the afterlife in it is more fleshed out, but the movie does some really neat things with it visually. Definitely my favorite depiction of heaven, and one of my favorite depictions of hell.
i absolutely love ULTRAKILL's twist on the nine circles of hell presented in the divine comedy. the level design alone bursts with creativity but finding that almost every one of them has unique lore attached to it and more characters from TDC really made it into one of my favourite depictions
One of my favorite depictions of hell is in Over the Garden Wall, which takes place in a mysterious forest called the Unknown. The Unknown is a metaphor for Dante's depiction of Hell, and although this is a kid's show with nobody outright confirming to us as an audience that they're dead, it's an entertaining watch! I highly recommend it.
IVE BEEN ON A JURASSIC PARK KICK AND PHIL IS LITERALLY MY GD HERO RIGHT NOW AND SO IF THE SOPRANOS WASNT GONNA MAKE ME PUT THIS OFF, MAD GOD E A S I L Y WAS
I appreciate that so much! I think I kinda had a fire lit under my butt on Discord when I did the Zlatan video, a bunch of people on that crazy Blinx MLS chat roasted my editing so I’ve worked pretty hard to improve since then
5:44 Talk To Me had me curled up in the theatre seat, hands up at my face (bc that facial gore holy shit), and mouthing “no no no” over and over for almost all of the third act. I think I cried on and off for the last half as well. A great movie, and incredibly intense.
watched it late in the am, had my girlfriend drive me home after. had to smoke a joint to calm myself down after seeing such a horrifically inescapable reality unfold in front of me
reminds me of the beginning scene (iirc) of pan's labyrinth. I've never watched the movie because of it, it haunts my dreams and i hadn't even seen the monster yet.
My favorite depiction of hell is in Hellboy: In Hell. There's something about the German and English architecture, Dante like structure, and how the locations are to service what the plot wants you to feel. Truly a great experience, but you'll need to read what occurs before to truly appreciate it.
I love this video's structure and comprehensive dives into the filmmakers' respective visions. It sounds like something you'd see play out before an Oscar is awarded for something like Production Design.
24:00 technically "heaven can wait" was relatively recently remade back in 2001 in the movie "down to earth" featuring Chris rock... It's just as confusing
a personal favorite depiction of hell is afton's hell in the recent fnaf fan film Family Comes First. it's like you see so much yet so little at the same time and i love that about it
THANK YOU for speaking about Mad God!!! this has become one of my favorite all time films, but my (or anyone's) first time seeing it was fucking shocking, not to mentioned I was baked as heck. In the middle of the film when the clock stopped and started ticking back and forth, indicating a time loop followed by a torture scene that, in my state, also felt like it was going on forever, it was vicarious to the point of me becoming nauseous and having to stop the movie, which NEVER happens, and to my surprise, was again only halfway through the film. Phil Tippet's genius and unmatched attention to detail, environment and character design, and symbology deserves to be studied and lauded for years to come. This movie is disturbing and enigmatic and imaginative to no end and tragically under appreciated.
Not sure if it's my favorite, but the most disturbing depiction I can think of is from "Event Horizon." Fantastic movie btw. Apparently, they shot a ton of footage for the "hell scene" that was so graphic, it hit the cutting room floor. There's some videos and articles about just that scene. It's worth looking into.
One of the most creative afterlife renditions I've encountered is from LEXX Season 3. In it, Heaven and Hell are two planets orbiting each other, with an air cordon uniting their atmospheres. The heaven planet is entirely covered by water, with various floating cities themed around hobbies dotting its surfaces, while the hell planet is covered entirely by desert, its cities being themed around sins. The heaven planet has no central government structure, whereas the hell one is in a constant civil war, the two factions led by eternally-resurrecting figures called Prince and Duke. It's great.
The novella "A Short Stay in Hell" by Steven Peck has always been the depiction that stuck with me the most-- the protagonist gets sent to what is essentially the library of babylon.
18:46 i I thought the same but then you think about Heimdall called "Golden teeth", the horse of Odin with "runes in his teeth" and the skeletons with filled teeth they found. THEY ARE NOT BRACES they are teeth with marks or tattoos bro
One of my absolute favorite depictions of Hell - Baskin. It’s a Turkish horror film where this group of cops respond to a call late at night, but unbeknownst to them they end up descending into the depths of hell. It’s tied heavily to Turkish mythology, and I cannot recommend it enough
I have a big obsessions about deptiction of hell in movies, and you somehow mentioned NO movie that I watched. Errementari, As Above So Below, The House That Jack Built, V/H/S/99, Hellraiser ... It's horror oriented, but I really love how some choose to not show too much, while other go full on and show the gate of hells or even demons going about their lives.
I am a writer, painter, and like to draw. To me, Hell is here. This is Hell. In other words, this is a Hell. One of many such Hells. The scariest part about this Hell, are the influences my creations have over others. They show up in their fantasies, and they can no longer tell the difference between fantasy and reality, truth and fiction. Under such circumstances, you have no idea what scary thing is going to happen next. So, you obsess about visiting Iceland, because Iceland makes you feel more secure. But that is not the scariest depiction of Hell either. The scariest depiction of Hell was visualized by Albert Pike - he almost wrote, as if he considered Heaven and Hell to be the same place - the same experience. Hell and Heaven are like a coin. Its you who flip it by deciding how you live your life. So basically, Harvey Dent´s view of life is wrong. The scariest person in Hell is the writer who likes his job as a writer. Thanks for your video!! Best wishes to you all the way from Iceland!!
The fact you mention the mason Albert Pike, the coin, and the notion of this re-ality being one of the, hm, "layers" of hell... Perhaps you would take something from the presentations on this channel: "Chiron Last Backup". Sort by Oldest, and go from there (dont start with any of the black screen videos)... Though, perhaps the one, " A Divine Comedy ", would be most suitable to view firstly...
Fun fact: the Good Place was directly based on the play No Exit by Jean Paul-Satre. The setting is different and the characters are verrryyy different but the premise is exactly the same. There are no instruments of torture. Hell is other people.
What is hell for me? Void, no sensation, just a pitch black space devoid of anything, except your conscious mind, no body, no vision, no hearing, smelling, tasting nor touching, complete sensory isolation. For eternity. This is hell. Our minds are biologically made to seek out company, to have external stimuli, if you take that away the only thing left is Insanity and agony.
How about your mind being forced into the background with no control as you watch through your eyes as your body carries out the most immoral and disgusting things on the people you love, for eternity? (i really didn't even want to type that nor imagine this.) That's sounds worse to me and i have seen that in anything before.
After watching the scene at 07:00 , I paused the video, watched the movie, then came back. Such a good movie. Thanks for giving it a highlight section! The ending is pretty good too
Adventure Time mentioned !! Idk why but I remember this one episode where they go to take back a dead plant from Death, and the episode contains the best fart joke I have ever heard in my life, along with Finn having a music battle at the end to get the plant back, absolute peak of art ! Also, Vinland Saga's depiction of Valhalla needs to be mentioned, one of the most powerful scenes I have ever seen in anime, gives a very different interpretation of Valhalla as more of a hell than a heaven, if you haven't watched the anime already, highly recommend it. On a very different note, I feel Doom(both 2016 and Eternal) kinda need a cursory mention , they are probably the most metal depictions of hell ever put in media A very small scene in the Castlevania anime where there is a flying shot through an entirely empty hell that ends in a church with Dracula and Lisa embracing each other in a broken church Man I really can't remember a few other things , and its bothering me 😭 Have been loving your videos, keep up the good work brother :)
Watching the Mad God portion and hearing you talk about it (as well as the last portion of the Heaven Can Wait part, where he no longer recognizes his saxophone) inspired me to consider a version of hell, so I figured I'd just share it here: I imagine being destroyed into pieces of myself (or as you said, put through a wood chipper and ground into mulch) and then reformed along with pieces of others who are going through the same process, every time losing more and more sense of my own identity and becoming a conglomerate of existence without persona or goals. No longer recognizing myself or anything I had formed a liking to or an attachment to and feeling distance from all I once deemed familiar and comforting. Losing my own will and desires to a group of damned strangers whom I only share this torment with.
i don’t think i’ve ever been or ever will be more thankful to watch anything u spoiled than the good place. DAMN that reveal really is THE perfect moment
Mad God feels like the film equivalent to a Bosch painting; and frankly, the fact there are no mentions of Bosch paintings here is a missed opportunity if you ask me.
Bruh, ultrakill would have been such a great addition to this video, that hell is a GLORIOUS reimagination of the divine comedy's one. However, since the gamenot done yet, I don't blame you for not putting it
great video as always, pancake! i love that you mentioned talk to me’s depiction of hell, because it freaked me tf out, too! 😭 as a quick note, though, the twilight zone’s creator’s last name is serling, not sterling.
I feel like Adventure Time's versions of the afterlife deserves its own video. The amount of nuance it has is amazing, having so many dead worlds and even more technically due to the person's perspective creating their own unique version of the deadworlds
Preacher gave me a rare visceral, long-lasting reaction from a piece of media. It sure has its depressing moments but it's not because I believed in its depiction, but the opposite. It gave me that final push into atheism where I truly believed it's just a cessation of existence after.
The game ULTRAKILL has my favorite depiction of Hell. It is an omni-malevolent entity without justification. So cruel even God could find no justification for its creation, nor unmake His mistake. So evil, He ended Himself out of guilt for making it.
There are a number of different takes on Hell that range from interesting to downright nightmarish, or sometimes even both. For me, the first depiction that I remember being really frightened of (or possibly traumatized by) was probably the “Night on Bald Mountain” segment from Disney’s “Fantasia”. The whole segment is not only atmospheric as… well, Hell, but its sense of scale and dread is downright sickening. The way the grotesque demons and deceased souls dance and contort while writhing around like they’re suffering from seizures, combined with Chernobog’s leering demonic face emerging from the trippy flames and curling smoke, as well as the jumpscares with the nude harpies. The whole scene is like a horrible fever dream, with a pinch of cosmic horror thrown into the mix. As far as more interesting takes on Hell are concerned, I think the one seen in both “Hazbin Hotel” and “Helluva Boss” is unique, depicting an afterlife that isn’t too dissimilar to our own mortal world but with a darker fantastical twist. It reminds me a lot of C.S. Lewis’ novel “The Great Divorce”, where Hell is less of a fire and brimstone wasteland and more of a class-divided dystopia (think like Los Angeles meets Detroit) where the deceased souls residing there either continue to indulge in their sinful behavior or do nothing but wallow in their own self-inflected misery for their foreseeable existence. Salvation exists in both of these variations of Hell, offering the souls trapped there a chance to enter Heaven, but the occupants are too weighed down by their own pride, insecurities, or shortcomings to attempt that chance.
Idk, hazbin realization of hell is boring. Is just California with magic and class system, that not work at all because of awful writing, but the concept of the hell, as society, for me, is pretty interesting. I just don't like how is realized by Vivziepop.
@@dogma_baal I would beg to disagree. Quite honestly, it’s probably one of the most colorful depictions of Hell I’ve seen in a while now, with its varied character designs, aesthetic environments, and also drawing upon obscure spiritual lore. It feels like a living and breathing world, despite its status as the final destination. When it comes to boring depictions of Hell, for me, it’s usually the standard cartoonish fire and brimstone depictions. The one in “South Park” comes particularly to mind - your standard fire and lava pit with generic gremlin imps wielding pitchforks and human souls chained to walls. It’s not all that interesting, with most of the demons lacking distinct personalities and the locations all blending into each other. The only memorable parts in these depictions is when something completely out-of-place appears - like a normal suburban home or when Christmas is celebrated there.
@@geoffreyrichards6079 tbh, I don't feel that way. Dispite aesthetics, there no substance. 4 showed rings of hell, 3 of them is same but with different tint. Spiritual lore is very weak and characters from that lore: 1) Changed beyond recognition, in a bad way (and I'm not saying about the design here.) 2) Bland 3) or just don't make any sense And i will repeat. We are talking about "Hell, as society", hell in South Park/Smiling friends and other comedy shows that don't take place in hell, hell in there just for funny and they try to make hell as understandable as possible. With fire and brimstone. So comparison is just meaningless. I said that is boring because Hazbin/Helluva does nothing with the concept. It's just California with magic. And nothing more. No biological differences, no different morals (If it was close to human, but no at the same time, it would be interesting), no history (besides of origin of hell), no culture (besides pop culture of humans), no clash of cultures as a result (and that could at least partially make it more interesting). That's why i think it's boring. Vivzie just do bear minimum to call it hell.
@@dogma_baal I’d argue that the series is only getting there. “Hazbin Hotel” is the one that will be shedding light on the larger conflict and the history of its realm, while “Helluva Boss” is apparently shedding more light on Hell itself and its connections to Earth - stuff that “Hazbin” apparently won’t be able to include in its planned narrative. Also, no… there are plenty of differences between the real world and Hell of the Hellaverse. On the surface level, it may seem to mirror our own, but there are videos up on UA-cam that do shed light on how their world differs and how their society functions. For example, the amount of contracted souls is how the Overloards like Alistor are able to climb to higher ranks in Hell’s society. Likewise, there is the place known as Wonderland, where the evil of Hell vortexes in a concentrated area and makes various monstrous wildlife manifest. There’s also talk of how Pentagram City might actually be a containment zone for the Sinners, keeping them trapped within the barrier to prevent them from spreading to the other rings among other things. I know Hell in those shows is only there for jokes and such, but even then, I still feel having shows set in that particular take would get boring really quickly.
@@geoffreyrichards6079 One problem, both shows give to the viewer only the surface level. Sorry for bad language, but, why the fuck i should watching videos on UA-cam just to understand what happened in that world? If only this all context appears in the shows, maybe, i change my opinion, but it's not. Same thing with "Sinners can respawn", It's not shown and it's not talked about(It talked about "Sinners can die trough angel weapon", but reaction to other weapons is not shown and respawn too). How i should know about that? And if i knew, it's only makes worse for the show. Helluva, as i said , also has that problem. It shows only surface level, no deeper than "Who is the ruler of the ring, what type of demons habitat that ring and what the color of tint on this ring". No details. Important lore only in videos and tweets. And again, it would be interesting, if it's been showed, and lack of context wouldn't exist and, maybe, it will be really interesting depiction of hell, but, sorry for tautology, it's not realized in any form, other than videos of other people and tweets of the author.
No joke the one in Sam and Max being an Office where it’s always 4:59 and the coffee is always cold will be my favorite for how funny it is as a concept
It's not hell in the traditional sense, but the torture of the last human in I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream would absolutely classify as hellish to me
I would say it is sufficiently equivalent to be brought up here. What happens is undoubtedly hellish, and AM definitely fits the role of a devil-figure in the situation (doing a great job of it too).
The absolute worst fate I've ever seen in a piece of media since... well, hell. You know, from the popular book you may have heard of; The Bible.
thankfully thats not a possible future
@@yvonetubla7682 yep
An inescapable, brutal maze, food only when a brutal god determines you can have it, warping and twisting the very atoms of your being into distorted mirrors of what you once were? Then to top it off, once your friends find freedom in death, the enraged god turns you into a monster incapable of the same escape just so it can brutalize you for eternity? Sounds like hell to me
Also apparently that valkyrie doesn't have braces, it's meant to be grooves carved into her teeth which is something vikings used to do
It's where Bluetooth comes from. Harald Bluetooth was a king of denmark who similarly tattooed his teeth blue, thus why the Bluetooth symbol on your phone is a rune. It's named after him.
This sounds like absolute bull but I promise it's not.
@@jesseharrold1812 can confirm, the inventor of Bluetooth named it that because King Harald united Scandinavia and Bluetooth unites devices
I recommend watching the Welsh Viking's video about these teeth markings
@@TheTrueGOATS TIL! Thanks for letting me know! I think I have some kind of false memory of reading that they were in fact braces & it was done on purpose to make the Valkyrie seem timeless, maybe I dreamed that lol
@@jesseharrold1812 That is excellent trivia
i think one problem with depicting haven is that we can't imagine what would be eternal peace and comfort, but we sure can imagine eternal pain and suffering, that is more understandable for us.
The eternal part is the real problem. People tend to view it as simply, "a very long time." When that is completely inaccurate. They can't understand the scale, nobody can. The mind simply isn't able to handle extreme scales, let alone infinite ones.
@bestaround3323 Exactly, i can understand both i think pretty well, maybe more the eternal peace part, but the 'eternal' bit is completely unfathomable to a mortal like me
Also, people don't realize that boredom would be a non-issue in heaven by definition. People refuse to accept that kind of passivity as ideal, despite the fact that it would be. They get all uppity about free will, which is an illusion anyways so there's no problem except that the idea of a perfect existence makes most people uncomfortable and they feel the need to justify that.
@--CHARLIE-- Well, that just gets into the problem of evil discussion. Evil supposedly exists due to free will. If free will is so important that it merits the existence evil, then how can a heaven without it be better?
If heaven exists, why have earthly existence at all? It is either illogical and/or cruel. Especially as if said heaven is infinite, as what is the point of a finite life of suffering, then? Wouldn't the logical thing be to end this life as quickly as possible?
The issue isn't just a perfect existence. It is an eternal one. Such an existence would be quite similar to oblivion. Unable to truly change or give any kind of meaning in an endless existence. Each moment worth as little as the last, and as much as the next.
Is there any point to such a sorry state?
@@bestaround3323There's a thought experiment I really like.
"You have a 99% chance of going to heaven, but if you're unfortunate, you go to hell. Your alternative option is to simply not exist"
And this is followed by
"The option you choose everytime is to simply not exist. Because if you just so happen to be extremely unlucky 1%, you face the absolute worst faith existence can and will ever come up with, a faith that is quite literally impossible to even try and comprehend"
The implications of "eternal torture" is so unfathomably cruel, it literally outweighs one's desire for eternal peace just to avoid it.
Might sound boring, but I still think Dante actually did one of the best jobs portraying hell. Not only are the punishments incredibly creative and specific (and of course; cruel) but there’s also a beauty and humanity to it. What I like most about Inferno (although that might just be what I took from it) is the feeling that hell, in its entire structure, is inherently personal. I stepped away from it feeling like this was Dante’s hell only and every single other person would find their own version of hell based on their personal morals. I really enjoyed that.
This makes me think. In some way, your interpretation could imply that Dante was building his personal Hell to put people in it.
@@imacg5 that’s exactly what I’m saying. I think it’s fairly palpable when reading the divine comedy. Like, he literally picked his real life enemies to meet in hell while they’re being cruelly punished for eternity.
@@alicelily550 I think he was the best. Honestly, only reason I wouldn’t include him in this list is because it’s kinda cheating
Agreed! So agreed
@@alicelily550honestly, the idea that other people are in your personal Hell is very interesting. Regardless of if they're being tortured or not, they are invading your space. That for me is Hell, go find your own Hell
forever in awe that you make spoiler warning lists in to something so so stylish
What's the name of the song used for the spoiler warning?
@@scratched_inkit’s a cover of Lay Down in the Tall Grass by Timber Timbre. I’m not sure who performed the cover though
They feek like commercials on Turner Classic Movies, in the best way
@@scratched_ink Lay Down in the Tall Grass by Bev Lee Harling
@@jaylamarie5671 Sweet, thank you! I tried looking up the original and realized it was a cover lol
The hell depicted in chainsaw man is also a crazy unique take
Hell in Chainsaw Man is legit cosmic horror, and I love it
Bro, spoilers
@@HowToEatChihuahua how the fuck is it a spoiler to say that the manga about devils has a depiction of hell in it
@@HowToEatChihuahuaspoilers: beam and most of denjis friends live and have a great life after escaping
It's a crazy unique aesthetic, sure, but we don't really know much at all about it. It's cool how the Hell Devil sends people to it. I'm sure Fujimoto will write something interesting about it if he ever brings the story there.
I will never forget how a friend of mine, when trying to explain concepts of Christian hell, described it as an absence of light.
No raging fires, no demons poking at you with tridents, but an absence of all feeling, sensation, hope... pure emptiness. And this is also somehow what I dream of when I have a fever.
It is so simple, yet so effective.
On the other hand I think the best depiction of heaven would be a personal one - ex. a character that had a troubled life gets a moment of peace and everything they wished for, but also the possibility to simply end existance as a whole when they have had their fill
That’s just being dead. The exact same experience we had before we were born. And that’s exactly what happens. Nothing.
Personally, the idea of any kind of eternal life is a version of hell to me. Existing forever, not only with no end in sight, but one where even the concept of an end is meaningless. There is no relief, no break, and nothing can make the suffering of perpetual existence cease. No matter what it is filled with, infinity is hell. Oblivion is the only way to salvation.
@@bestaround3323That's only if you consider the human mind to work the exact same in whatever place is one going into. I always assumed that in religions the afterlives are different forms of being, they may be similar but we may be "adapted" to be in eternity in a way that it isn't boring (assuming an eternal, pleasant afterlife of course, who knows, some actual hell would indeed be made boring to add to the bad)
Just for information I'm not religious, not currently.
@Kastelt But at that point, are we even shattered simulacrums of humans anymore? If the fundamentals of who we are get removed and replaced, is it even us on the other side? Can any shred of a person even survive such a brutal metamorphosis?
This, of course, is a verbose way of asking if such drastic change would leave anything left, even resembling the person they once were.
@@bestaround3323 I don't think removing the capacity to experience boredom is that much of a drastic change.
Still, even if the change is drastic, sometimes afterlives aren't about keeping identities, for example reincarnations, positive or negative, in Buddhism, while they're not eternal they can last extremely long times, and you don't keep your identity because well, everything is impermanent, including it (no-self, hopefully getting the concept right). So I guess it doesn't ultimately matter (sometimes) if we "lose who we are", now I get that's scary since personally I'm attached to who I am, but still, I guess it's not about me as I am right now after all, if that makes sense.
Though I guess I kind of went off topic in that last thing, since after all it's about eternity (my point was just was that's not really about keeping us as we are right now or when we die, so losing ourselves even if scary it's to be expected, again assuming actually removing the capacity for boredom or similar ends up a drastic change or if there's more than that).
I hope this comment makes sense because as you've probably already seen I'm not good at explaining what I mean.
1:14 France
Come on it aint that bad
@@cynquadil148 THERE'S ONE OF THE FROGS, GET 'EM!
@@cassierbutler6073 never tasted frog legs. But I found a place that serves them, so maybe this week end 😗 snails are disgusting tho
@@cynquadil148 Honestly, they taste like chicken. Not bad with cayenne based sauces. Better fried than baked
Paris is not the entirety of France.
One of my favorite genres of video is when a significant chunk of the video veers into an interesting tangent that doesn't necessarily have to do with the original premise.
I personally think Dante was cooking when he was writing inferno’s version of Hell. it truly shows how twisted one’s mind can be
I love that the line "when hell freezes over" is common parlance for "it will never happen" but in the divine comedy, the lowest level of hell is a frozen wasteland, and the great Satan himself is half trapped in ice
Dante is a genius in way not only "diss track" all his relatives, politicians, preachers and teachers but also introduce a part of hell for journalists when didnt exists yet (circle 8 bolgia 2, but i considered bolgia 9 or 10)
@aspiringjoker2883 it's a bit of a coincidence, in italian is not common parlance
@@Bwall89 I think he was heavily influenced by the Greco-Roman underworld, which itself was divided up into different regions and had different punishments assigned to their respective inhabitants.
@@Bwall89 yeah, but having Dante’s hell would be cheating, since it’s obviously the best one by far
Two of my favorite depictions of hell/the afterlife that i can think of would have to be how The Book of Life shows the duality of those places as well as the place 'beyond' what could be considered hell in being forgotten about by those who are still alive. I also always find humor in seeing heaven and hell in Good Omens and how similar they are in their people and work environment, just with two different masks on. Awesome video!
Your pfp is my favorite :D
The first time I thought about my own personal hell, I was like five and my mom was taking forever looking at shoes/clothing in the store and I thought it'd be just endless waiting that literally never ends. Not sure I'd say it's stayed my idea of what a personal hell would be, but it's a very distinct memory.
You're stuck in line at the register while you're mom goes to get the one thing she forgot. Everyone is annoyed at you for holding up the line.
@@nuggetsaltshaker9520But nobody says anything and there's eyes everywhere giving you annoyed looks
I love Ultrakill's depiction of, not just Hell, but an adaptation of Dante's Inferno and the nine layers. Limbo being this plastic paradise of TV screen walls playing rolling hills and speakers playing bird chirping noises. Greed being a desert so hot it melted flesh, and those who were sentenced there were doomed to carry giant boulders across them. Wrath being an unrelenting storm on an infinite ocean where the Titanic resides. While Heresy sounds like the firey metal-band-music-video Hell usually looks like, Violence is the complete opposite-- a stark white castle of ash, where every violent act is reflected in the stark red that stains it.
And this is all in the game where you throw and shoot coins out of the sky as an attack and parry everything including a giant's fists.
Wraths ocean isn't water it's dammed souls. You can see them grabbing and stuff.
@@TheCosmicUpriseDamned souls underwater.
also, greed is a desert of superheated gold dust.
Ultrakill mentioned 🗣️🗣️ +FISTFULL OF DOLLAR
I don't even like Ultrakill that much but it's depiction of Hell is cool af
My two favourite depictions of "Hell" come from two SCP files:
SCP 7179 - _A tropical island with fruits that give you amazing highs, populated by three people who embody your personal sexual preferences. These "people" have no agency, and do whatever you tell them. All injuries are healed, the sun never moves in the sky, and all attempts to leave the island fail. You remain there for eternity. The story follows how someone spends their first 10^100 years on this island. I have never encountered a work or fiction that better encompasses the horrors of living forever than this one._
SCP 7034 - _A high-rise road jammed with traffic and choked with smog, where you move only a few inches every few hours. If you eventually get past this traffic, you find that this raised highway just keeps going and going, with seemingly nothing beneath it. As cars break down or run out of gas, and as people run out of food and water, the stealing and killing starts. Only the most ruthless will make it to the end of this road... where they'll find Hell waiting for them. This story is a masterpiece of existential/psychological horror._
Both are very short, and SUPER worth a read! I intentionally left most of the details out!
To this I'd like to add SCP-2718 - "What Happens After", where an O5 is resurrected and recounts remaining conscious after death and experiencing the rot and decay of his body even as it's pulled apart into its constituent atoms and disintegrated.
I would add my favorite SCP as well, SCP-1733.
Definitely examining this later
these were both great reads :)) thanks!
I really like SCP 7034 because it reminds me of that one Dr. Who episode where they travel to some planet in the future and it's all just a giant ring of people in flying car traffic.
The Valkyrie doesn't have braces, btw.
Skulls from the viking era reveal some warriors made cuts they would sometimes feel with stuff in their teeth. That's what she has
and the norse myth mentions teeth at least 2 times
The DMV.
Good point!
I may know vaguely what you mean.
Okay Boomer, the DMV has been fine now that they’re properly funded again after people who fled to the suburbs in fear of diversity moved back to the cities. As well as a lot of things being able to be done online.
every americans hell
"Erm, you weren't supposed to write on this part, please take another form and re-join the line when you're done"
Boredom is a devious one. We've gotten so good at mitigating it because of how much we dislike it. We want it to never happen. We can't even go to the bathroom with our thoughts alone anymore.
I really like Doctor Who's depiction of kinda-hell in Heaven Sent. Both extremely tragic, inescapable and perfectly tailored to break the Doctor without physical pain for the most part. Also it's probably one of the best episode in a TV series period
Yeah, the lake full of skulls thoroughly traumatised 6 year old me, so it definitely did its job in that regard
@@Dergeytruto I'm horrified that you described 2015 as when you were 6. How did this happen?
@maxenswlfr1877 I just walked in on my grandparents watching it lol. And don't worry, I was exaggerating; by 'thoroughly traumatised', I just mean it really stuck with me (and scared me out of watching the show for a fair few years) No kids were actually harmed! :)
@@Dergeytruto No no, I'm horrified that you could've been 6 years old when this came out. Wasn't that five years ago or something?
@@TheMinecraftMan757 It was nine years ago, so a while.
I think one of the most unique depictions of Hell I have ever seen is the one from the first The Darkness video game, because it is one of the few that I can think of where no one actually enjoys being there.
The damned souls are locked in an eternal WW1 battle where they cannot die, but can still be torn apart, so they are all cobbled together from random bits of other people. If you end up at the bottom of one of the pits or get your limbs blown off and are left stranded in No Mans Land, then you're just stuck there forever in a cycle of eternally dying and reanimating over and over again.
The demons are permanently left in a state of eternal suffering and misery. Pestilence is tied to a post and is constantly writhing in agony, Famine has no mouth, but has an abundance of food placed right in front of it, War is a quadriplegic left abandoned in the control room of a railway gun and Death is trapped in a dark prison for all eternity.
And at the centre of that prison is the Darkness itself, isolated from everything and hooked up to a horrific machine that tears and impales it for eternity which it created for itself after going insane from living countless lifetimes alone with nothing but the worst of humanity to keep it company.
There is no content mastermind enjoying the scheming and plans and making the entire place work.
There are no cackling demons laughing sadistically as they inflict divine punishment upon the sinners.
There are no angels sitting smugly on the side lines with offers of redemption and freedom if you perform a specific task.
It is a place of perfect misery, where the suffering is completely self-inflicted and can never stop because everyone involved in it is just too far gone to even realise it's a choice anymore.
Hell in Ultrakill is also really unique, it's basically a huge superorganism that plays with the residents of hell, i.e forcing V1 (the main character of the game) into fights by locking it in rooms
i think my favorite depiction of Hell is literary. In the Discworld book F̶a̶u̶s̶t̶ Eric, Hell starts out as a classic Fire-and-Brimstone Hell, but everyone is going through the motions because nobody has nerve endings anymore - on account of being souls instead of bodies - so it's not the worst thing on the Disc. The King of Discworld Hell - a sort of David Brent type - discovers Corporate Culture - and decides to use it to make Hell a better more pleasant place. In the process he transforms Hell from meaningless torture to something genuinely existentially unpleasant and awful.
I think my personal hell would be like that one time I ate too many eggs before I realized I was severely intolerant to eggs and then was forced to go to a high school auditorium dance party, but in a much smaller room
My favorite rendition of hell has to be in Fujimoto's Chainsaw Man. Hell is a set of doors that houses the domains of different fears.
It's a sanctuary that contains all of humanity's worst threats, fed by humanity's darkest imagination. Almost animal-like in the way territory is controlled by the more instinctual, more primordial fears.
I like that the doors are a reference to dorohedoro
Damn you summed it up perfectly, like 1:1 on what makes it so terrifying
For me, the scariest thing about a place like hell is not the place itself; it's that it's eternal. The idea of eternity is agonizing, terrifying and exhausting for me. It doesn't matter if it's good or bad; if it's eternal, it will be my nightmare.
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This is one of the reasons why I hope there's no heaven. I've considered how long I'd be willing to live for and that could be tens of thousands of years, but I'd still want there to be an end, I think.
Being aware forever, whether in hell or in heaven feels like it would be torture to me. People who are welcome to the idea either don't understand just how long eternity actually is, or they simply haven't thought it through.
@@Seffyzero or have different frameworks than you, some actually do want to be in a memoryless bliss state.
@@stm7810 That would be one of the few ways it could possibly work. Have your memory removed every so often so you can continue living. Of course how much of you would truly be left is always the question.
@@TheInsomniaddict not much, also I don't see it as viable or realistic, thermodynamics is against infinity.
I'm not a religious person but I like to think of heaven as being a place where all the stuff on earth doesn't really matter. If you get there before your loved ones well, its just a short wait. No biggie, you're glad they're down there living their life. In the example he gave where you accidentally crash and kill someone else they'd probably say something like "well, accidents happen but you didn't mean it." and you'd both just naturally understand it and accept it.
If you got to heaven and your spouse had started dating another person it'd be like "im really glad they got to find someone who touches their heart in a new way"
We always think of everything as concrete and final. that theres only 1 way to look at it. we're too stuck in our head to really understand anyone else and id like to imagine in heaven you can just cut through all that bullshit
As a Christian, this is a surprisingly good take on the topic, this is basically what the Bible implies. In summary, everything after this life infinitely outweighs anything that you may experience during it, like a fetus out of a womb or a seed reborn into a tree. That's why, for example, suffering for Christ is worth it, because nothing you could ever suffer here could possibly compare to the glory of what comes right after.
So, yeah, I'm really glad you think like this man. I hope you live a beautiful life and, after that, I hope to see you there :D God bless ya and Jesus loves ya :)
From an Islamic perspective people in heaven aren't the same in this world when you enter heaven your heart and mind will be perfectly pure lacking the concept of spite and hatred you will live eternally in heaven any good thing you experience will become better the more you try it you can't mentally or physically get bored from the pleasures of heaven
May Allah guide us all to the truth to the right path
I had a dream that I died and went to Heaven, and like maybe I wasn't _quite_ dead yet, because there was a cosmic escalator running back to the mortal plane, slash my body if I wanted, or had any unfinished business. And there were tons of things I could do, or probably _should_ have done, but I was finally at peace... and none of that felt like my responsibility anymore. Needless to say, waking up was depressing...
@Wendy_O._Koopa God bless ya and Jesus loves ya man, I pray that you find peace in this life
While Hakita's 'Ultrakill' is directly inspired by Dantes inferno it makes some large creative changes making it feel more industrial in nature. A depiction of hell that leans directly into science fiction and asks you to think not only if robots have a soul and can be damned but does hell itself have a soul too? A world where reality itself feels like a malfunctioning machine that is slowly sputtering out.
I feel like the Mannequins are the most twisted concepts from the game and is a great example of what unending suffering that this rendition of Hell provides
Hell in ultrakill is incredibly terrifying. A living creature made by god wich is horrific enough to make him regret. Something made for the sole purpose of causing pain wich has escaped even it's own creator
ULTRAKILL'S Hell is probably one of my favorite video game settings tbh. It's this sort of visceral, alive thing that eats sinners and recycles them in a sadistic ouroboros. And then you can go fishing sometimes
Ultrakill definitely has my favorite depiction of Limbo at least, where it's a series of claustrophobic rooms and corridors that poorly depict heaven. On the walls there's screens showing green fields as far as the eye can see, forever out of reach. The sound of birds chirping played through cheap speakers behind plastic trees. Chapel rooms with stained glass windows that will never have sunlight shine through them. It's an eternal mockery for the unfaithful
The depiction of Hell in Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey really stuck with me.
I also love Little Nicky for subverting it by making two of the characters really happy to end up there because they're metalheads and they just love the aesthetic.
in season six of supernatural there is a scene of crowley’s implementation of hell being a perpetual yellow tinged queue, which goes along nicely with the adventure time depiction, and it’s one of my fave depictions of hell in spn alone
1:40 My personal hell is already depicted in Sartre's Work "No Exit", beeing forever waiting in a room with like really annoying, aggressive people.
We are performing No Exit at my college, we're doing the Paul Bowles adaptation. I'm stage manager for the show, and I've been having a blast with this show. Honestly, I have to agree and say this is my favorite depiction of Hell.
and not having 1 moment of peace, always awake, always being judged... yeah same hell to me
Hell is worse if they give you a trillion years of heaven first before blinking you straight into the torture.
Also the worst hell is an endless void of nothingness, bonus points if they don’t give you a body (even less experiential input). I’ve experienced this in my dreams and it is truly terrifying.
If that feels like a cop out, body horror is pretty awful, like if they take your face away so you can’t see hear or breathe, or turn you into a monster, or taking your body away entirely. Even worse if they do stuff to your mind as well, like make you deathly afraid of your own reflection, or make you enjoy doing truly horrible things and then changing you back and let you feel horrible about what you did, changing what you’re afraid of and what you enjoy, or making you blame yourself for things you’re not responsible for, changing your memories, your personality, identity into something it’s not. Etc etc etc.
I think about this too much.
I want it to be an endless void of nothingness that way better then anything else
My favourite depiction of hell is a literary reference. The hell as depicted in The Third Policeman by Irish writer Flann O'Brien is absurd and extremely unnerving...
What’s it say?
Well don’t just leave us hanging!
thats *such* a good fkn book
@@tzelaltsolak462 you kinda have to read it to get it..
@@bobloblaw418 but i dont wanna!
I'll always stand by the Library of Babel as my favorite depiction of hell. Being forced to play what is essentially a game of chance to earn the right of redemption is terrifying to me.
you know there is a real website that models the library, also has images of your death and future, just got to get through everything else
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What's the website name?
@@aleanddragonITA it's just library of babel. Essentially it's just a seeded random letter generator for all possible configurations of characters that can fit on a 3200 char page.
My favorite isn't explicitly a depiction of Hell, but I think has the same effect. It's in the podcast Welcome to Night Vale's 89th episode.
Night Vale is being invaded. The protagonist finds a woman he knows, but she is still and silent. He asks what happened to her.
She answers.
She was made strange. There is a cavern. The floor is covered in mud. She walks through the mud because certainly there must be something else. You walk through the darkness, through the mud, but there is never anything else. For years you walk through the mud. Sometimes you might feel that someone is near, that you can hear them moving through the mud, searching like you are for anything else, but your hands never touch and you cannot speak. You are alone. Sometimes the mud is over you head. Sometimes is a barely there dampness under your feet. And as you walk you are hollowed out. And as you are hollowed something replaces you. And as something replaces you, you are filled with it's desire for absolute nothing.
The protagonist asks her when she escaped the mud to come back to Night Vale.
She tells him that she is still in the mud. Her body is here. She is still in the mud. Tears are streaming down her face. She is still in the mud.
The protagonist runs.
It gives me chills. Every. Single. Time.
Sounds like depression and trauma
Holy shit a Night Vale comment this is so good. This episode has sat with me ever since I first listened to it
I'm still in the mud, Cecil. I am still in the mud I'm still in the mud I'm stillin the mud I'mstillin the mud stillinthemud
omg yes !!! that was truly horrifying! that two part episode had my favorite depiction of the devil too. that innocent looking beagle puppy that then stands up on two feet, panting loud and heavy and upsetting human. asking “WHO’S A GOOD BOY?” compelling you to answer and be forever lost in doing so
it sounds goofy but the way cecil voiced that damn dog… gives me chills
I haven't seen it since I was a little kid, but hell in "what dreams may come" starring Robin Williams always stuck with me.
It has some scenes right out of paintings, snd how it’s described in parts of Dante’s Inferno.
The movie has a lot of things, that I just don’t care for, but I’ve always enjoyed it anyway.
The cinematography is excellent, and quite beautiful.
I think what *Heaven Can Wait* is exploring is what it means for Joe to be Joe. Is his body what makes him Joe? No, he still has his saxophone and desire to win the superbowl. But then at the end he wins the superbowl and loses his saxophone. So who is he now? Probably not Joe, because his traits are all gone. But he is however, happy. He succeeded, so its time for a new life. Heaven can wait.
joe of theseus
My favorite depiction of Hell is in Jean-Paul Sartre play No Exit. We are doing the Paul Bowles adaptation at my college and I am the Stage Manager for the show. I am having a blast working on this show with my friends and our amazing Director. This has cemented it as my favorite depiction of Hell.
This seems like a film channel, but the meticulously crafted hell from ultrakill and how it feels almost like a continuation of Dantes inferno after the death of humanity is a fascinating depiction.
The torture from each layer is amazing thought out and creative. I also love the fact that even Hell itself is suffering, from boredom.
For me, my personal hell would likely be either watching suffering and being unable to do anything about it, or causing suffering and being unable to stop it
Many people have already mentioned it, but Ultrakill's rendition of the place of eternal torment is probably my favorite, and not just due to the novelty of being a sapient version of the place.
From all of the red text we see thoughout the game, it can be inferred that Hell is simultaneously hilarious and sophisticated, saying stuff like "WE'RE GONNA NEED A BIGGER BOOM" and "YOU'RE THE STAR OF THE SHOW NOW, BABY", while V1 is killing for blood, but will also sprout amazing theatrics with it's memetic "YOU WERE LIKE ANTENNAS TO HEAVEN" speech. Hell is brimming with personality in Ultrakill, maybe more than any character in the game.
I'll have to watch this video in full later, but Hell is always around us, it's pure pleasure until we get tired of it, and move on, then a new Hell comes in the form of the same, but different. A constant lesson. There is no physical place, just a lesson in what no longer is necessary for us and something for us to learn from. It was listening to an in-depth analysis of Donta Inferno that made me realize this, and the two other works Purgatorio and Paradiso.
I was honestly surprised "What Dreams May Come" wasn't on this list. The book is more interesting because the afterlife in it is more fleshed out, but the movie does some really neat things with it visually. Definitely my favorite depiction of heaven, and one of my favorite depictions of hell.
i absolutely love ULTRAKILL's twist on the nine circles of hell presented in the divine comedy. the level design alone bursts with creativity but finding that almost every one of them has unique lore attached to it and more characters from TDC really made it into one of my favourite depictions
One of my favorite depictions of hell is in Over the Garden Wall, which takes place in a mysterious forest called the Unknown. The Unknown is a metaphor for Dante's depiction of Hell, and although this is a kid's show with nobody outright confirming to us as an audience that they're dead, it's an entertaining watch! I highly recommend it.
4:03 this is going to be good
IVE BEEN ON A JURASSIC PARK KICK AND PHIL IS LITERALLY MY GD HERO RIGHT NOW AND SO IF THE SOPRANOS WASNT GONNA MAKE ME PUT THIS OFF, MAD GOD E A S I L Y WAS
2:43 hey it’s me :^) Great video as always, keep up the great work!
Bravo Pancake
You spoil us with your content
Great as always man, I remember when you announced the channel switch up, never thought the vids would be this high quality
I appreciate that so much! I think I kinda had a fire lit under my butt on Discord when I did the Zlatan video, a bunch of people on that crazy Blinx MLS chat roasted my editing so I’ve worked pretty hard to improve since then
As soon as I saw this video, I wanted to mention "that episode of Twilight Zone" and you came out the gate with that banger
5:44 Talk To Me had me curled up in the theatre seat, hands up at my face (bc that facial gore holy shit), and mouthing “no no no” over and over for almost all of the third act. I think I cried on and off for the last half as well. A great movie, and incredibly intense.
watched it late in the am, had my girlfriend drive me home after. had to smoke a joint to calm myself down after seeing such a horrifically inescapable reality unfold in front of me
reminds me of the beginning scene (iirc) of pan's labyrinth. I've never watched the movie because of it, it haunts my dreams and i hadn't even seen the monster yet.
My personal hell: an acid swap filled with various biting insects while the disembodied voice of mariah carey sings from all directions.
So Christmas in Austrailia? LOL
My favorite depiction of hell is in Hellboy: In Hell. There's something about the German and English architecture, Dante like structure, and how the locations are to service what the plot wants you to feel. Truly a great experience, but you'll need to read what occurs before to truly appreciate it.
I love this video's structure and comprehensive dives into the filmmakers' respective visions. It sounds like something you'd see play out before an Oscar is awarded for something like Production Design.
Vinland saga’s Valhalla is what I felt is a great depiction of a hell like place. It terrified me in the show and the manga.
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24:00 technically "heaven can wait" was relatively recently remade back in 2001 in the movie "down to earth" featuring Chris rock... It's just as confusing
a personal favorite depiction of hell is afton's hell in the recent fnaf fan film Family Comes First. it's like you see so much yet so little at the same time and i love that about it
THANK YOU for speaking about Mad God!!! this has become one of my favorite all time films, but my (or anyone's) first time seeing it was fucking shocking, not to mentioned I was baked as heck. In the middle of the film when the clock stopped and started ticking back and forth, indicating a time loop followed by a torture scene that, in my state, also felt like it was going on forever, it was vicarious to the point of me becoming nauseous and having to stop the movie, which NEVER happens, and to my surprise, was again only halfway through the film. Phil Tippet's genius and unmatched attention to detail, environment and character design, and symbology deserves to be studied and lauded for years to come. This movie is disturbing and enigmatic and imaginative to no end and tragically under appreciated.
Not sure if it's my favorite, but the most disturbing depiction I can think of is from "Event Horizon." Fantastic movie btw. Apparently, they shot a ton of footage for the "hell scene" that was so graphic, it hit the cutting room floor. There's some videos and articles about just that scene. It's worth looking into.
You have no idea how excited I was to see The Good Place mentioned in the spoiler warning. It’s my favorite depiction of both heaven and hell.
One of the most creative afterlife renditions I've encountered is from LEXX Season 3. In it, Heaven and Hell are two planets orbiting each other, with an air cordon uniting their atmospheres. The heaven planet is entirely covered by water, with various floating cities themed around hobbies dotting its surfaces, while the hell planet is covered entirely by desert, its cities being themed around sins. The heaven planet has no central government structure, whereas the hell one is in a constant civil war, the two factions led by eternally-resurrecting figures called Prince and Duke. It's great.
The novella "A Short Stay in Hell" by Steven Peck has always been the depiction that stuck with me the most-- the protagonist gets sent to what is essentially the library of babylon.
18:46 i I thought the same but then you think about Heimdall called "Golden teeth", the horse of Odin with "runes in his teeth" and the skeletons with filled teeth they found. THEY ARE NOT BRACES they are teeth with marks or tattoos bro
Not gonna lie. I feel like I should watch Heaven Can Wait just so I can really absorb the absurdity you just explained.
You are cooking with these videos fr fr
One of my absolute favorite depictions of Hell - Baskin. It’s a Turkish horror film where this group of cops respond to a call late at night, but unbeknownst to them they end up descending into the depths of hell. It’s tied heavily to Turkish mythology, and I cannot recommend it enough
Plot twist, every depiction of hell is accurate. They all exist catered to the individuals worst subconscious nightmare.
I have a big obsessions about deptiction of hell in movies, and you somehow mentioned NO movie that I watched.
Errementari, As Above So Below, The House That Jack Built, V/H/S/99, Hellraiser ... It's horror oriented, but I really love how some choose to not show too much, while other go full on and show the gate of hells or even demons going about their lives.
I am a writer, painter, and like to draw. To me, Hell is here. This is Hell. In other words, this is a Hell. One of many such Hells. The scariest part about this Hell, are the influences my creations have over others. They show up in their fantasies, and they can no longer tell the difference between fantasy and reality, truth and fiction. Under such circumstances, you have no idea what scary thing is going to happen next. So, you obsess about visiting Iceland, because Iceland makes you feel more secure. But that is not the scariest depiction of Hell either. The scariest depiction of Hell was visualized by Albert Pike - he almost wrote, as if he considered Heaven and Hell to be the same place - the same experience. Hell and Heaven are like a coin. Its you who flip it by deciding how you live your life. So basically, Harvey Dent´s view of life is wrong. The scariest person in Hell is the writer who likes his job as a writer. Thanks for your video!! Best wishes to you all the way from Iceland!!
The fact you mention the mason Albert Pike, the coin, and the notion of this re-ality being one of the, hm, "layers" of hell...
Perhaps you would take something from the presentations on this channel: "Chiron Last Backup". Sort by Oldest, and go from there (dont start with any of the black screen videos)... Though, perhaps the one, " A Divine Comedy ", would be most suitable to view firstly...
@@thedivine5897 Thank you!!
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Fun fact: the Good Place was directly based on the play No Exit by Jean Paul-Satre. The setting is different and the characters are verrryyy different but the premise is exactly the same. There are no instruments of torture. Hell is other people.
What is hell for me?
Void, no sensation, just a pitch black space devoid of anything, except your conscious mind, no body, no vision, no hearing, smelling, tasting nor touching, complete sensory isolation. For eternity.
This is hell. Our minds are biologically made to seek out company, to have external stimuli, if you take that away the only thing left is Insanity and agony.
How about your mind being forced into the background with no control as you watch through your eyes as your body carries out the most immoral and disgusting things on the people you love, for eternity? (i really didn't even want to type that nor imagine this.)
That's sounds worse to me and i have seen that in anything before.
After watching the scene at 07:00 , I paused the video, watched the movie, then came back.
Such a good movie. Thanks for giving it a highlight section! The ending is pretty good too
Adventure Time mentioned !! Idk why but I remember this one episode where they go to take back a dead plant from Death, and the episode contains the best fart joke I have ever heard in my life, along with Finn having a music battle at the end to get the plant back, absolute peak of art !
Also, Vinland Saga's depiction of Valhalla needs to be mentioned, one of the most powerful scenes I have ever seen in anime, gives a very different interpretation of Valhalla as more of a hell than a heaven, if you haven't watched the anime already, highly recommend it.
On a very different note, I feel Doom(both 2016 and Eternal) kinda need a cursory mention , they are probably the most metal depictions of hell ever put in media
A very small scene in the Castlevania anime where there is a flying shot through an entirely empty hell that ends in a church with Dracula and Lisa embracing each other in a broken church
Man I really can't remember a few other things , and its bothering me 😭
Have been loving your videos, keep up the good work brother :)
"I thought it would be funny...!"
@@Nikkibuh it always sounds like jake's VA almost broke character right there😭
Watching the Mad God portion and hearing you talk about it (as well as the last portion of the Heaven Can Wait part, where he no longer recognizes his saxophone) inspired me to consider a version of hell, so I figured I'd just share it here:
I imagine being destroyed into pieces of myself (or as you said, put through a wood chipper and ground into mulch) and then reformed along with pieces of others who are going through the same process, every time losing more and more sense of my own identity and becoming a conglomerate of existence without persona or goals.
No longer recognizing myself or anything I had formed a liking to or an attachment to and feeling distance from all I once deemed familiar and comforting.
Losing my own will and desires to a group of damned strangers whom I only share this torment with.
I saw adventure time and immediately clicked.
i don’t think i’ve ever been or ever will be more thankful to watch anything u spoiled than the good place. DAMN that reveal really is THE perfect moment
23:39 so ; wonder woman 2
when the spoiler warning music hit i knew i was in for a great time. insane production thank you for making this
The various Hell depictions in DOOM are kickass though
Metal: Hellsinger is similar, incredible soundtrack too.
Mad God feels like the film equivalent to a Bosch painting; and frankly, the fact there are no mentions of Bosch paintings here is a missed opportunity if you ask me.
Painkiller had a great depiction of hell. Just a monument to humanity's war crimes, frozen in time
The audio only spoiler warning is a great idea. Really helps out those of us that listen to video essays at work🤝
pancake! ...and my *other* dog
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Bruh, ultrakill would have been such a great addition to this video, that hell is a GLORIOUS reimagination of the divine comedy's one. However, since the gamenot done yet, I don't blame you for not putting it
>So scared by Talk to Me he cant sleep
>next video is adventure time
I can just envision the soyjak
i really like the depictions of hell in both good omens and dead boy detectives!! both are really interesting and unique takes
great video as always, pancake! i love that you mentioned talk to me’s depiction of hell, because it freaked me tf out, too! 😭 as a quick note, though, the twilight zone’s creator’s last name is serling, not sterling.
Ha ha, appreciate it, thanks for letting me know!
‘What dreams may come” with Robin Williams, still has some of the best depictions of heaven and hell I’ve ever seen
Oh HELL yeah, new video
I feel like Adventure Time's versions of the afterlife deserves its own video. The amount of nuance it has is amazing, having so many dead worlds and even more technically due to the person's perspective creating their own unique version of the deadworlds
4:40 Aww no 1408??
I LOVE THAT MOVIE IT WAS SO COOL
loving this "favorite depictions" series, its so good!
i would add two even three more :
Hellraiser, Hellraiser: Judgment and Preacher TV series xD
Preacher gave me a rare visceral, long-lasting reaction from a piece of media. It sure has its depressing moments but it's not because I believed in its depiction, but the opposite. It gave me that final push into atheism where I truly believed it's just a cessation of existence after.
Huis clos is for me one of the best depictions of eternal suffering
The game ULTRAKILL has my favorite depiction of Hell. It is an omni-malevolent entity without justification.
So cruel even God could find no justification for its creation, nor unmake His mistake.
So evil, He ended Himself out of guilt for making it.
i love how this video completely derailed at the end and just became a synopsis of heaven can wait
There are a number of different takes on Hell that range from interesting to downright nightmarish, or sometimes even both.
For me, the first depiction that I remember being really frightened of (or possibly traumatized by) was probably the “Night on Bald Mountain” segment from Disney’s “Fantasia”. The whole segment is not only atmospheric as… well, Hell, but its sense of scale and dread is downright sickening. The way the grotesque demons and deceased souls dance and contort while writhing around like they’re suffering from seizures, combined with Chernobog’s leering demonic face emerging from the trippy flames and curling smoke, as well as the jumpscares with the nude harpies. The whole scene is like a horrible fever dream, with a pinch of cosmic horror thrown into the mix.
As far as more interesting takes on Hell are concerned, I think the one seen in both “Hazbin Hotel” and “Helluva Boss” is unique, depicting an afterlife that isn’t too dissimilar to our own mortal world but with a darker fantastical twist. It reminds me a lot of C.S. Lewis’ novel “The Great Divorce”, where Hell is less of a fire and brimstone wasteland and more of a class-divided dystopia (think like Los Angeles meets Detroit) where the deceased souls residing there either continue to indulge in their sinful behavior or do nothing but wallow in their own self-inflected misery for their foreseeable existence. Salvation exists in both of these variations of Hell, offering the souls trapped there a chance to enter Heaven, but the occupants are too weighed down by their own pride, insecurities, or shortcomings to attempt that chance.
Idk, hazbin realization of hell is boring. Is just California with magic and class system, that not work at all because of awful writing, but the concept of the hell, as society, for me, is pretty interesting. I just don't like how is realized by Vivziepop.
@@dogma_baal I would beg to disagree. Quite honestly, it’s probably one of the most colorful depictions of Hell I’ve seen in a while now, with its varied character designs, aesthetic environments, and also drawing upon obscure spiritual lore. It feels like a living and breathing world, despite its status as the final destination.
When it comes to boring depictions of Hell, for me, it’s usually the standard cartoonish fire and brimstone depictions. The one in “South Park” comes particularly to mind - your standard fire and lava pit with generic gremlin imps wielding pitchforks and human souls chained to walls. It’s not all that interesting, with most of the demons lacking distinct personalities and the locations all blending into each other. The only memorable parts in these depictions is when something completely out-of-place appears - like a normal suburban home or when Christmas is celebrated there.
@@geoffreyrichards6079 tbh, I don't feel that way. Dispite aesthetics, there no substance. 4 showed rings of hell, 3 of them is same but with different tint.
Spiritual lore is very weak and characters from that lore:
1) Changed beyond recognition, in a bad way (and I'm not saying about the design here.)
2) Bland
3) or just don't make any sense
And i will repeat. We are talking about "Hell, as society", hell in South Park/Smiling friends and other comedy shows that don't take place in hell, hell in there just for funny and they try to make hell as understandable as possible. With fire and brimstone. So comparison is just meaningless. I said that is boring because Hazbin/Helluva does nothing with the concept. It's just California with magic. And nothing more. No biological differences, no different morals (If it was close to human, but no at the same time, it would be interesting), no history (besides of origin of hell), no culture (besides pop culture of humans), no clash of cultures as a result (and that could at least partially make it more interesting).
That's why i think it's boring. Vivzie just do bear minimum to call it hell.
@@dogma_baal I’d argue that the series is only getting there. “Hazbin Hotel” is the one that will be shedding light on the larger conflict and the history of its realm, while “Helluva Boss” is apparently shedding more light on Hell itself and its connections to Earth - stuff that “Hazbin” apparently won’t be able to include in its planned narrative.
Also, no… there are plenty of differences between the real world and Hell of the Hellaverse. On the surface level, it may seem to mirror our own, but there are videos up on UA-cam that do shed light on how their world differs and how their society functions. For example, the amount of contracted souls is how the Overloards like Alistor are able to climb to higher ranks in Hell’s society. Likewise, there is the place known as Wonderland, where the evil of Hell vortexes in a concentrated area and makes various monstrous wildlife manifest. There’s also talk of how Pentagram City might actually be a containment zone for the Sinners, keeping them trapped within the barrier to prevent them from spreading to the other rings among other things.
I know Hell in those shows is only there for jokes and such, but even then, I still feel having shows set in that particular take would get boring really quickly.
@@geoffreyrichards6079 One problem, both shows give to the viewer only the surface level. Sorry for bad language, but, why the fuck i should watching videos on UA-cam just to understand what happened in that world? If only this all context appears in the shows, maybe, i change my opinion, but it's not. Same thing with "Sinners can respawn", It's not shown and it's not talked about(It talked about "Sinners can die trough angel weapon", but reaction to other weapons is not shown and respawn too). How i should know about that? And if i knew, it's only makes worse for the show.
Helluva, as i said , also has that problem. It shows only surface level, no deeper than "Who is the ruler of the ring, what type of demons habitat that ring and what the color of tint on this ring". No details. Important lore only in videos and tweets. And again, it would be interesting, if it's been showed, and lack of context wouldn't exist and, maybe, it will be really interesting depiction of hell, but, sorry for tautology, it's not realized in any form, other than videos of other people and tweets of the author.
this devolving into a rant about heaven can wait was so funny to me great video !!
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No joke the one in Sam and Max being an Office where it’s always 4:59 and the coffee is always cold will be my favorite for how funny it is as a concept
i raise you over the garden wall which a lot of ppl think represents the 7 layers of hell
For me, hell would be eating spicy food for eternity and no sweet food, ever.