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Get my book, The German Aces Speak vol 2 that has Erich's full interview. I knew him among others. Technically speaking, from a strictly tactical, flying and marksmanship standpoint, Erich was far from the best shooter in the Luftwaffe. Erich averaged over 100 rounds per kill, which was less than most aces, and it took him 1,423 missions to score 352 confirmed (another 32 unconfirmed) The best fighter pilot in missions, rounds per kills, and flying skill was Hans-Joachim Marseille. Marseille averaged 15 rounds per kill (12 MG and 3 cannon rounds), and scored 152 kills in only 382 missions. See my book The Star of Africa: The Story of hans Marseille...
Erich Hartmann will likely never be surpassed as a fighter ace, even if there are fighters a thousand years from now. He must have been extremely intelligent. From what I have read, he felt pain about National Socialism, but would not fail in his duty to his nation to serve with honor and to the best of his ability
The greatest air ace never abused his legendary combat skills and acted like a gentleman, just like his legendary predecessor Manfred von Richtoffen, the Red Baron. Erich Hartmann, the Blond Knight of the East, is still the greatest of the air aces, RIP...
Hartmann once told his Russian captors after the war that he actually considered Hans-Joachim Marseille to be Germany's top ace, since Marseille's 157 kills were all against British and American planes, and the Germans generally considered a kill against an American or British machine to be the equivalent of 3 Russian planes. Needless to say that didn't win him any favors with the Russians, but it is an interesting point of view.
Hans is a Legend. He skipped town on his wedding day to go spend a few months with his mistress in Italy. The SS had to hunt him down and tell him he had to go back to work 😂
I heard he surrendered to the west, not the Russians. Supposedly he shot down a Russian then flew and surrendered to the Americans on his last mission. I haven’t listened to this video yet.
It's a(nother) lie. He did loose a wingman in 1945: Major Günther Capito on March 7, 1945. Just scratch the surface, and you'll see that Hartmann's fame is like an inflated balloon that his fans do not want to notice. Especially his 352...
@pegamini Capito flew in Stab I./JG 52 in Bf 109G-10, WNr.: 612723 and Hartmann lost him in a dogfight with Soviet fighters. Nobody said that he died, but he was shot down while covering Hartmann as his wingman.
My grandfather happened to run into Hartmann while he was vacationing in the Bahamas during the 80s. It's shocking how such legends can just appear at such a place with no warning
I am 74 years old now; I was born in early April of 1948. While I served in that U.S. Army, my father served in the Army Air Corps and later in the U.S. (Edited: Air Force) so I had an intense interest in all things Air Force related. I had read of Erich Hartmann. He was ‘worth the read’. I have also read the biographies of other air men... British Ace, Douglas Bader, the German Stuka Pilot (sorry, his name alludes me at present), Japanese Ace, Saburu Sakai? Erich Hartmann was one of the most interesting - thanks for this Recap... 🙏
Try Eric 'Winkle' Brown, he flew more planes than anyone else, a record unlikely to be beaten. His reports on Axis aircraft make him interesting on their own as he flew almost all of them...including the Me 163 Komet - which he later considered maybe ill-advised!
@@tashatsu_vachel4477 oh yes, I know of Eric Brown - I have one of his books where he discusses various captured planes that he flew. Great pilot and his records will probably never be beaten - not an air ace per se but still an aviation legend.
War is a place where the young kill one another without knowing or hating each other, because of the decision of old people who know and hate each other, without killing each other. ~ Erich Hartmann 1922-1993
Erich " Bubi " Hartmann was the cream of the Luftwaffe crop. There were many great Luftwaffe pilots with between 100 - 250 kills but ... no one compares to Hartmann . He was simply the greatest fighter pilot ever !!!!
Sorry to say, but no. Lipfert, Barkhorn, and probably others were far more dangerous in the air than Hartmann with much better claim/victory ratio. Hartmann destroyed approx. 80-120 enemy planes at best. These were his real victories. At the same time, he was credited with 352 confirmed claims. These two are absolutely not the same and most people still do not understand the difference. Confirmed claims were just approved paperwork in the office. Too bad, his myth is still repeated by many, without doing any actual research keeping this false history alive. 80-120 planes is still a lot, but absolutely not world record, - perhaps not even among the first five. Hartmann notoriously kept damaging his opponents in the air while only a fraction of them crashed, most escaped with a few holes, yet he got credited for all of them. But this is a long story..
@@pegamini7582 As opposed to many Hartmann fans here who just keep repeating their favorite (old and false) legends, as a researcher of an aircraft museum, I am obsessed with the TRUTH. It might sound strange, but that's it! Since I do my own military research for decades now I do not need to seek popularity among naive and childish boys who do not really know anything about aviation history and aviation archaeology. Just read my recent book (Verified Victories: Top JG 52 Aces Over Hungary 1944-45 - Helion & Company, 2022, England) and you will understand...
Good video, but as an aviation history enthusiast, I find it interesting that you use pictures of Finnish Bf 109s rather than Bf 109s in the Luftwaffe (The Finns had blue swastikas inside circles on the fuselages and wings of their planes, while the Germans only added swastikas to the tail fins of their planes, with the wings and fuselage being adorned with the balkenkreuz (beam cross/bar cross). Just a note for next time you cover a German WWII pilot in the future.
@@ProvidenceNL interestingly, the pre-war Latvian Air Force also had swastikas as its roundel on military aircraft, which was slanted, but it was a red swastika inside a white circle. But neither the Finnish nor the Latvian insignias were adopted because of Nazi policies, as the swastika was a well-known and ancient symbol in the Baltic region (and Europe in general), though often identified as a hooked-cross, as the term swastika is derived from Sanskrit. The swastika can be found all over the world in many variations, largely because it is an easy shape to make, but while many cultures attributed it with good fortune, the Nazis and other political groups either derived from Nazism or were contemporary ideologies with similar motives have forever distorted and perverted the symbol for their own aims.
Humbly requesting George Carlin. A comedian and satirist who oftentimes hit the nail more than just on the head; and whose bits were infinitely more than just satire. The guy was a comedian, satirist, begrudged philosopher, and even the voice of Thomas the Train.
He became a "legend" due to a war caused by a homicidal madman with delusions of grandeur. You sound like a naziphile. Whether Hartmann was sympathetic to the Nazis or not, he still fought for NAZI GERMANY and ADOLF HITLER. People can try to claim the "Clean Wehrmacht" myth and that soldiers convinced themselves they were fighting for the Fatherland, but at the end of they day they were still soldiers for Hitler who were fighting in a war their fuhrer started. So stuff your "in a sane and just world" BS. In HITLER'S world he would have statues and schools.
My father was friends with a Luftwaffe pilot who emigrated to the USA through Canada. He really didn't like talking about the war but he shared this story. He was originally a bomber pilot but the Germans were so short of trained fighter pilots they started putting bomber pilots in their fighters. He said flying aganst B17 formations was terrible. On one of his first missions attacking these bombers he noticed his fighter looked like it was apparently dissolving before his eyes. What it turned out to be was the combined fire power of the formation literally riddling his fighter full of holes ! Amazing he survived the war !😮
Great condensed history of Hartman. Just one constructive criticism though. You kept showing a Bf 109 with a swastika on the side, this is a Finish Bf 109, German aircraft had the black cross with white outline on the side and wings. They had a small swastika on both sides of the tail. Also, the Germans placed the swastika on point and not lying on one of the arms. Just thought I would point it out. Really like your channels.
I would recommend Hans-Joachim Marseille, 148 victories in 388 missions. He got mostly ignored, since he died when his BF-109G crashed in North Africa.
I’ve been trying to figure out this guys name for a while; I knew he was a German pilot, and I knew he had 200-300 victories, but I couldn’t find a name! Thanks Simon! Side request: some vids dedicated to the Viking Age, please? Thanks! Ragnar Lothbrok Leif Eriksson Viking Raid On Lindisfarne Abbey
There are actually two aces over the 300 kill mark, both German. Erich Hartmann with 352 Gerhard Barkhorn with 301 Several (also German) in the 200 kill mark.
@@monkeydank7842 Boelcke, yes. He wrote the first manual for fighter pilots, called "Dicta Boelcke" - Boelcke's Rules. A one-page affair with twelve rules or so.
What a legend. How this guys life hasn't been made into a series (a movie wouldn't be long enough to capture it all) I'll never know. Also bravo to the American pilot who didn't shoot as him after he parachuted out. Shooting at him would have been like kicking a man when he's down. I know some pilots did but that's kind of sick, they're no longer a threat to you.
Depends on which side of the lines they are coming down on, our side well going to be a prisoner, their side potential enemy combatant getting into another aeroplane and killing more of ours etc. Ultimately is there a difference to walking bullets through the crew compartment of a German Ju88 or Do217, or gunning them 'defenceless' descending in a parachute to a safe welcome on their own side. Harsh but that's the reality of it.
@@PortmanRd Well, THAT I believe - how manly is it to shoot at a defenceless enemy ? If you follow the stories of the greatest aces you will soon notice that they never sank THAT low....a true knight would never that.
I have seen a few things on the top aces and they seemed to be doing a job, defending their country and to hell with the politicians. Oddly this also seemed to cause a few issues after the war when in service for the west German airforce where many found themselves on the wrong side of politics, I therefore find it easier to admire them - they may have fought for a detestable regime but it was their fate and their calling for their country, not their leaders, they risked all for.
It was actually pretty rare to find young Germans who weren't committed Nazis during the war years since that generation had been raised in a totalitarian state during their formative years.
I cannot believe how young he was and did all of these feats. If you are further interested, Greg’s Airplanes and Automobiles has a great video on Hartmann and other German aces
Age 71 is not that old. He would have been 100 years old now. That hard life in Russian captivity must have taken an extra toll on such a hardy individual.
Lenny Bruce opened the door to a new style of "socially acceptable" comedy, bringing it to genteel audiences who had laughed at it behind closed doors and less reputable venues forever. Would be a good candidate for a video.
Hartmann is no doubt the best fighter ace on record, but his story is no where near as compelling as the Star of Africa himself: Hans-Joachim Marseille.
@@matthewfinkenbinder5846 Aint that the truth? Some seriously short-lived fighters in the ww1/2 eras of aerial combat who lord only knows how they could have developed
I'm trying to figure out your choice of photos when describing his plane and showing a Finish Bf-109 or talking about Soviet aircraft and showing the squadron of RAF Hurricanes and a downed American P-40? I understand the Soviets obtained hurricanes and P-40s through lend lease. I would think that you have the ability to get pictures of those planes in Soviet markings.
Hero is not an appropriate term to anyone who contributed in ANYWAY to Hitlers war machine. Esp not someone who was a hero in the eyes of the Germans. Let all Nazis and those who admire or sympathize with them be removed from this world.
@@cleverusername9369 except he wasn't an actual literal nazi, they even talk about that in the video. He and his fellow pilots showed disdain for national socialism and hitler's administration.
@@jonathanfricke2660 doesn't matter, he wore the uniform, he killed Americans and Allies, I don't care about his personal feelings, he was a Nazi whether he liked it or not, he actively participated in killing Americans, just because he didn't like Hitler doesn't absolve him of enthusiastically murdering people in the military of the Nazis, in a Nazi plane, in a Nazi uniform, on behalf of the Nazis. His disdain didn't stop him from being known best for being the Nazis most successful airborne murderer.
I recently visited a full, unabridged interview of Hartman. I’m sure it was published after his death. It’s a very interesting story, and seems to have been destined to be who he was. His life is a story worth listening to.
I frequented a coffee shop in my hometown in the 90s, and a local mailman stopped in one day and noticed my OD field coat. We got to swapping military stories and I learned he did pilot training at Williams AFB. And he spoke fondly of Erich being brought in to lecture fledgling fighter pilots.
Simon check out Ernst Udet the second highest ace of WWI behind Richthofen and the greatest aviator between the wars his stunts were death defying literally. Eric "Winkle" Brown would make a superb subject for a bio too.
Amazing that these accomplished fighter aces realized they were going up against a superior opponent along with taking notice of the fact that Hitler was crazy. Nevertheless they were proffesional and had much respect for what they were doing.
This matters little when your opponent outnumbers you 100 to 1 daily and has an unlimited production ability, he had about as much effect on the war as Hans Rudel did on the soviet tank force size by destroying about 600 tanks during the war.
A great video and very timely as I'm currently working on a project looking at German aces of WW2 and Erich Hartmann was the rock star of the Jagdwaffe. This makes up for your Mary Shelley video and I'll even forgive you for labelling a Ju-87 Stuka as a Sturmovik.
I would absolutely love to see an episode about Catalina de Erauso, I've been looking into her myself over the last couple days and her life is just... it's absolutely crazy
Great story, thanks. Erich definitely was the epitome of a ‘knight of the air’. I almost thought you were going to say Erich had brought in to testify as to the issues he had with the 104 and his predictions that it had issues and would cause deaths.
Yes Hartmann was a superb Luftwaffe Jagdflieger, but I noticed a couple of photos of the superb Bf 109 fighter aircraft displaying the Finnish national Hakenkreuz emblem, this National ID emblem has nothing to do with any Nazi political beliefs. No on the contrary it was simply a national emblem a blue Hakenkreuz on a white bottom used by the Finnish Air Force at the time. Finlands association with Nazi Germany was purely out of necessity to help Finland to fight off the Soviet Bolshevik Untermensch Huns that wanted to conquer Finland. Basically the same reason as Sweden although neutral during WW2 that also feared an attack by the Soviet Bolshevik Huns after finishing off our Nordic brother and sister to the east. Thus we continued to ship iron ore to Germany as well as allowing Wehrmacht troops to use our railway system to move German Wehrmacht troops to Norway. But the German soldiers were not allowed to disembark on Swedish territory until crossed in to Norway.
Trivia about the "Starfighter Affair" from German Wikipedia: Hauptmann (Major) Heltzel's emergency landing in Nörvenich in 1965 subsequently found its way into the Guinness Book of Records in 1988, as the landing speed of 435 km/h (270.3 mp/h) was the highest speed at which an aircraft has ever successfully touched down.
You get it wrong about first time, he saw an enemy.His story goes like this. His C.O. was Herman Graf who inspired his black petals by use red ones.The first enemy planes he ever saw were Bell P39 Airacobras. The 109s had the height advantage and where unseen. The sight of the P39s freaked him out. He rolled out of formation and firewalled the throttle back to base..He realised what he had done was cowardice in face of enemy. So he started write a letter to Graf saying"If I am not to be shot I would like to transfer to be a medic as my father was a doctor and it was always my second choice of what to do with my life" When every one else got home. Graf just said,"First time nerves lad". The rest is history.Despite be on the wrong side. wear the wrong uniform and have wrong medals he was a ace human being. Some things he told me"Never order anyone to do something you would not do yourself" He said war was when two nasty old men sent young men out to kill other young men that they would rather be friends with. He also said You should not hate us [Germans] for the Nazis. I do not hate Americans for turn me over to Russians. I do not hate Russians for what the NKVD did to me.The 109 you keep show is the plane of the top Finnish ace.Proud to call ErichI a a good friend.Graf also won the diamonds.Sorry I never got to meet Gunther Rall but I didn't that us how it goes.
A man with tons of spine in every situation - and the readyness to live with the consequences of his decisions! You haven't even mentioned his opposition to Germany's purchase of F-104 planes that led to his dismissal.
Great Video! Question, if you haven't done one, could you maybe do one about Prussian General Field Marshall Helmuth Karl Bernhard von Moltke? He could probably make a pretty good video
At time indexes 4:30 and 6:19 you showed Messersmitt 109 fighter planes, but they were of the Air Force of Finland, not Nazi Germany. During WWII the Finnish airforce used the Swastika as its roundrel, but it had NOTHING to do with Nazism. It was just a design they chosed in 1918 when the Finnish airforce was founded, long before the Nazis were a thing. They dropped it as part of its logo in 2020.
He represents what most German soldiers and pilots were. Men that did they part but weren't members of Nazi party and thus didn't know about warcrimes that were committed by Nazis.
Rubbish, the Wehrmacht was inextricably involved in the Brutalising of Jews in Poland and then assisted the Einsatzgruppen operations following Operation Barbarossa. It’s known that the fate of the so-called subhumans in the east was well known within Germany from at least 1943.
@@jacktattisno they did not my dad fought in Russia and he told us kids there were rumours but the soldiers did not beliefe them and Bubi hartmam was stationed at Lagerlechfeld some km away were i was a very young luftwaffe soldier at landsberg am Lech 1964 / 1965
Erich Hartmann may have fought for the wrong side but learning about his contributions are totally worth it for advancing the tactics of aviation. I hate that certain historical figures cant be talked about merely because they are deemed irredeemable. Learning from history's baddest villains is not the same as admiring them.
this man wasn't even a villain. he was just the citizen of a country that was putting itself in a compromising position and he decided to make the best of it
@@theawesomeman9821Yea no the bad guys won have fun in your 1984 social credit pedophilia, lgbt, Tiktok, feminist, capitalist, communist fucked up world you have created even Patton knew you fucked up
Future Video suggestion - Eamon DeValera (1882-1975) - prominent political leader in 20th century Ireland who, after the Irish war of independence from 1919 to 1921, was in the public eye for over forty years from 1922 until his death were he served as head of government (Taoiseach) and head of state (president). He was nearly executed in the Easter Rising in 1916 and was key in putting into place the new constitution on 1937. A very prominent figure in Irish history.
I prefer the Finnish Pilot Ilmari Juutilainen. He scored 96+ (highest non-German score). More importantly, he never took a bullet from an enemy aircraft and never lost a wingman.
Never forget that, on the Eastern front, Hartmann participated in a war of annihilation against the Slavic peoples of Eastern Europe. We normally don't refer to wars as genocides, but this one definitely was. Hartmann should not be considered a hero. At best, he was a naive young man, at worst, a war criminal. Today, historians know that basically all soldiers on the Eastern front knew about the war crimes going on. Make of that what you will.
@@pegamini7582 I never claimed that the allies were innocent. It was definitely not a black and white situation. But none of that bombing of civilians by the allies would ever have happened without the Nazis starting their genocidal war. Hartmann was a part of that war and, as far as I can find out, an eager part Why else would hr try to improve himself all the time? In my eyes, this makes him a mass murderer.
@@diedertspijkerboer”genocidal war” Belgium killed millions of Africans in Congo just years prior. Why does every power but Germany get a pass? So ignorant.
@@ElizaWebbg I didn't mention those things because they aren't related to this vid. And I don't ignore unpleasant facts. I am well aware of how Belgium treated the Congo. Also, I am Dutch and the Netherlands committed a war with genocide in it in 1949/1950. I have shared this fact online many, many times. But the Dutch-Indonesian war wasn't a genocidal war. Germany attacked east with genocide as a main goal. The Dutch wanted to reconquer Indonesia, which was terrible, but not a genocidal goal. So the war that Hartmann fought in was way, way worse. I suggest that you stop making false assumptions and learn more history before you attack someone.
@@diedertspijkerboer Germany being a genocidal machine is obnoxiously false. I know history, enjoy your delusions in sodomite capitol of Europe though, cheers.
How must it have been like for his American Instructors when they trained him on a Jetfighter? "Captain, you are assigned to train that German guy." Captain: "Does he know how to fly a Fighter Plane?"
There was Joachim Marseille to contend with Erich Hartmann for the title. If the former had lived longer and sent to Soviet theatre of war, he could have out-aced Hartmann.
Died in an accident rather than by enemy fire. Quite possibly the most talented air ace of them all... as voted by many of his contemparies after the war.
I think he had a black companion that he guaranteed safety and gave instructions to his that in case he (marsielle) dies, the companion should stay with them. Cementing his anti nazi approach
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Hey guys can you do some labor union men women and the movement in the United States Canada in the UK. It would be much appreciated my ideas of course Jimmy Hoffa, but also Walter reuther the most important labor union leader in the United States and maybe the world for many years the UAW president! Eugene debs, John l Lewis, Big Bill Haywood, Cesar Chavez etc. Love the channel...
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Get my book, The German Aces Speak vol 2 that has Erich's full interview. I knew him among others. Technically speaking, from a strictly tactical, flying and marksmanship standpoint, Erich was far from the best shooter in the Luftwaffe. Erich averaged over 100 rounds per kill, which was less than most aces, and it took him 1,423 missions to score 352 confirmed (another 32 unconfirmed) The best fighter pilot in missions, rounds per kills, and flying skill was Hans-Joachim Marseille. Marseille averaged 15 rounds per kill (12 MG and 3 cannon rounds), and scored 152 kills in only 382 missions. See my book The Star of Africa: The Story of hans Marseille...
Erich Hartmann will likely never be surpassed as a fighter ace, even if there are fighters a thousand years from now. He must have been extremely intelligent. From what I have read, he felt pain about National Socialism, but would not fail in his duty to his nation to serve with honor and to the best of his ability
Bubi (before neill Armstrong) the lAst of the gentlemen aces. 352 confirmed. Barkhorn 302 I think.
Erich Hartman was my flying instructor and helped me getting my Private Pilot License! A truly wonderful individual! RIP!
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You such a lucky man that you actually met him
I wished i met him
Thee, actual Hartman?
Not sure if I believe this at all but if it is true than than like having Beethoven as your piano teacher
@@rheinhardtgrafvonthiesenha8185 well you can research Google for the FSV Herrenberg e.v.
The greatest air ace never abused his legendary combat skills and acted like a gentleman, just like his legendary predecessor Manfred von Richtoffen, the Red Baron. Erich Hartmann, the Blond Knight of the East, is still the greatest of the air aces, RIP...
Why are you saying rip to a german nazi who killed so many men in the support of germanys foul campaign back then.
Hartmann once told his Russian captors after the war that he actually considered Hans-Joachim Marseille to be Germany's top ace, since Marseille's 157 kills were all against British and American planes, and the Germans generally considered a kill against an American or British machine to be the equivalent of 3 Russian planes. Needless to say that didn't win him any favors with the Russians, but it is an interesting point of view.
Hans is a Legend. He skipped town on his wedding day to go spend a few months with his mistress in Italy. The SS had to hunt him down and tell him he had to go back to work 😂
Yet Russia did Majority of the work in Europe, USSR won the war in Europe, US and Britain were just sideshows
3 for 1 is being generous to the Russians.
@@herbsuperb6034 it's nonsense, consedering Russia are more fierce fighters than britain or USA.
Britain and USA has it very very very easy in Europe
I heard he surrendered to the west, not the Russians. Supposedly he shot down a Russian then flew and surrendered to the Americans on his last mission. I haven’t listened to this video yet.
Of all my accomplishments I may have achieved during the war, I am proudest of the fact that I never lost a wingman. ~ Erich Hartmann, 1922-1993
It's a(nother) lie. He did loose a wingman in 1945: Major Günther Capito on March 7, 1945. Just scratch the surface, and you'll see that Hartmann's fame is like an inflated balloon that his fans do not want to notice. Especially his 352...
@pegamini Capito flew in Stab I./JG 52 in Bf 109G-10, WNr.: 612723 and Hartmann lost him in a dogfight with Soviet fighters. Nobody said that he died, but he was shot down while covering Hartmann as his wingman.
@@gaborhorvath4873 Where is that information?
@@devildogcrewchief3335 GQM report and Hartmann's last interview.
My grandfather happened to run into Hartmann while he was vacationing in the Bahamas during the 80s. It's shocking how such legends can just appear at such a place with no warning
Damn ur grandpa got to meet a legendary nazi, that’s crazyy
What an astoundingly brave and honourable man. Thanks, this was interesting, Simon and team.
He was a nazi
I am 74 years old now; I was born in early April of 1948. While I served in that U.S. Army, my father served in the Army Air Corps and later in the U.S. (Edited: Air Force) so I had an intense interest in all things Air Force related. I had read of Erich Hartmann. He was ‘worth the read’. I have also read the biographies of other air men... British Ace, Douglas Bader, the German Stuka Pilot (sorry, his name alludes me at present), Japanese Ace, Saburu Sakai? Erich Hartmann was one of the most interesting - thanks for this Recap... 🙏
Stuka?..........That would be Rudel then....................................................
@@janrobertbos, Yes, thank you... Hans Urich Rudel (sp?)...
You should also look up Hans Joachim Marseille aka "The Star of Africa" - quite possibly the most talented air ace of all...
Try Eric 'Winkle' Brown, he flew more planes than anyone else, a record unlikely to be beaten. His reports on Axis aircraft make him interesting on their own as he flew almost all of them...including the Me 163 Komet - which he later considered maybe ill-advised!
@@tashatsu_vachel4477 oh yes, I know of Eric Brown - I have one of his books where he discusses various captured planes that he flew. Great pilot and his records will probably never be beaten - not an air ace per se but still an aviation legend.
War is a place where the young kill one another without knowing or hating each other, because of the decision of old people who know and hate each other, without killing each other. ~ Erich Hartmann 1922-1993
That is closer to what he really said than I put in my long comment.The rest is accurate. I did not put it right I am sorry I never met Gunther Rall.
Erich " Bubi " Hartmann was the cream of the Luftwaffe crop. There were many great Luftwaffe pilots with between 100 - 250 kills but ... no one compares to Hartmann . He was simply the greatest fighter pilot ever !!!!
Sorry to say, but no. Lipfert, Barkhorn, and probably others were far more dangerous in the air than Hartmann with much better claim/victory ratio. Hartmann destroyed approx. 80-120 enemy planes at best. These were his real victories. At the same time, he was credited with 352 confirmed claims. These two are absolutely not the same and most people still do not understand the difference. Confirmed claims were just approved paperwork in the office. Too bad, his myth is still repeated by many, without doing any actual research keeping this false history alive. 80-120 planes is still a lot, but absolutely not world record, - perhaps not even among the first five. Hartmann notoriously kept damaging his opponents in the air while only a fraction of them crashed, most escaped with a few holes, yet he got credited for all of them. But this is a long story..
@@gaborhorvath4873 Commie is mad
can you tell me some of the more notable ace fighters of the luftwaffe? i'd really like to read more about them 🤗
@@pegamini7582 As opposed to many Hartmann fans here who just keep repeating their favorite (old and false) legends, as a researcher of an aircraft museum, I am obsessed with the TRUTH. It might sound strange, but that's it! Since I do my own military research for decades now I do not need to seek popularity among naive and childish boys who do not really know anything about aviation history and aviation archaeology. Just read my recent book (Verified Victories: Top JG 52 Aces Over Hungary 1944-45 - Helion & Company, 2022, England) and you will understand...
@@gaborhorvath4873 Read your book No thanks
Good video, but as an aviation history enthusiast, I find it interesting that you use pictures of Finnish Bf 109s rather than Bf 109s in the Luftwaffe (The Finns had blue swastikas inside circles on the fuselages and wings of their planes, while the Germans only added swastikas to the tail fins of their planes, with the wings and fuselage being adorned with the balkenkreuz (beam cross/bar cross). Just a note for next time you cover a German WWII pilot in the future.
Something i noticed too, asdide from the Finnish Swastika not being slanted like the German.
@@ProvidenceNL interestingly, the pre-war Latvian Air Force also had swastikas as its roundel on military aircraft, which was slanted, but it was a red swastika inside a white circle. But neither the Finnish nor the Latvian insignias were adopted because of Nazi policies, as the swastika was a well-known and ancient symbol in the Baltic region (and Europe in general), though often identified as a hooked-cross, as the term swastika is derived from Sanskrit. The swastika can be found all over the world in many variations, largely because it is an easy shape to make, but while many cultures attributed it with good fortune, the Nazis and other political groups either derived from Nazism or were contemporary ideologies with similar motives have forever distorted and perverted the symbol for their own aims.
@@adamestes5227 Thank you for the detailed explanation, i was already aware of its history but there will certainly be people who will not!
I wondered about that. The Luftwaffe normally put the Iron Cross on the fuselage. The Finnish had a light blue swastika.
Simon (the narrator of this video) doesn't edit the videos, he is just the narrator
2:35 - Chapter 1 - The glider youth
5:40 - Chapter 2 - Bubi
8:15 - Chapter 3 - Friendly fire
11:40 - Chapter 4 - Ace of aces
14:30 - Chapter 5 - The last victory
17:55 - Chapter 6 - The last defeat
Humbly requesting George Carlin. A comedian and satirist who oftentimes hit the nail more than just on the head; and whose bits were infinitely more than just satire. The guy was a comedian, satirist, begrudged philosopher, and even the voice of Thomas the Train.
He'll have to do Carlin (& Ceaușescu) eventually. Lets keep at it!
They might be working on it already, these things take time
@@v.emiltheii-nd.8094 Simon & Co. have already done a fascinating Geographics video on The Palace of the Parliament & mentions of Ceausescu of course.
“It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it”, is more relevant today than ever.
Yes Please.
This video respects his authoritah.
Knew the comments wouldn’t fail me! Bahahah
Finally a South Park comment.
There's actually a theory that cartmans name comes from Erik Hartmann explaining his love of Hitler
I'm so glad that channels like this exist as I was never taught about this man at school and I don't recall hearing about him since then.
In a more sane and just world, this man would have schools named after him. He was a living legend.
In a more sane world he wouldn’t of had to fight in a wwII but would still of become a legend some way.
He became a "legend" due to a war caused by a homicidal madman with delusions of grandeur. You sound like a naziphile. Whether Hartmann was sympathetic to the Nazis or not, he still fought for NAZI GERMANY and ADOLF HITLER. People can try to claim the "Clean Wehrmacht" myth and that soldiers convinced themselves they were fighting for the Fatherland, but at the end of they day they were still soldiers for Hitler who were fighting in a war their fuhrer started.
So stuff your "in a sane and just world" BS. In HITLER'S world he would have statues and schools.
@@hellequin.303 Yeah, was going to say this. In a just, sane world we wouldn’t be killing each other.
He would also have a song about meeting Snoopy 😀
South Park: Erich Cartman.
We need a movie about this guy
My father was friends with a Luftwaffe pilot who emigrated to the USA through Canada. He really didn't like talking about the war but he shared this story. He was originally a bomber pilot but the Germans were so short of trained fighter pilots they started putting bomber pilots in their fighters. He said flying aganst B17 formations was terrible. On one of his first missions attacking these bombers he noticed his fighter looked like it was apparently dissolving before his eyes. What it turned out to be was the combined fire power of the formation literally riddling his fighter full of holes ! Amazing he survived the war !😮
Great condensed history of Hartman. Just one constructive criticism though. You kept showing a Bf 109 with a swastika on the side, this is a Finish Bf 109, German aircraft had the black cross with white outline on the side and wings. They had a small swastika on both sides of the tail. Also, the Germans placed the swastika on point and not lying on one of the arms. Just thought I would point it out. Really like your channels.
Simon (the narrator of this video) doesn't edit the videos, he's just the narrator
@@Codex70 true, but his editor might read the comments or he could pass the information along to them.
Does it really matter? Bf109 is a bf109. Atleast they didnt show the wrong plane.
I would recommend Hans-Joachim Marseille, 148 victories in 388 missions. He got mostly ignored, since he died when his BF-109G crashed in North Africa.
There were mamy with over 150 kills. Hartmann is just the dude who flew over 800 Mission and made over 350 kills.
@@Future183 Marseille is known as the pilot with the best marksmanship he is a interested character
I’ve been trying to figure out this guys name for a while; I knew he was a German pilot, and I knew he had 200-300 victories, but I couldn’t find a name! Thanks Simon! Side request: some vids dedicated to the Viking Age, please? Thanks!
Ragnar Lothbrok
Leif Eriksson
Viking Raid On Lindisfarne Abbey
There are actually two aces over the 300 kill mark, both German.
Erich Hartmann with 352
Gerhard Barkhorn with 301
Several (also German) in the 200 kill mark.
He should do a biographic on Canute as well.
@Jacob Klein I recommend youtuber Jackson Crawford
@Kai Johnson do you understand this nuber are not real .
@@axa897 do YOU understand how to write legible, coherent comments in the English language?
No allegations could stick to Erich Hartmann. He was a good man who did his duty for his nation and the greatest fighter pilot of all time
I’m always impressed with how badass early pilots were.
Probably because everything was analog.
They had more than their share of guts, that's for sure. Rather like the early Astronauts.
Hartmann's rules are not that much different from Dicta Boelche, as laid down by von Richthofen's first boss.
You mean Oswald Boelcke.
@@monkeydank7842 Boelcke, yes. He wrote the first manual for fighter pilots, called "Dicta Boelcke" - Boelcke's Rules. A one-page affair with twelve rules or so.
What a legend. How this guys life hasn't been made into a series (a movie wouldn't be long enough to capture it all) I'll never know.
Also bravo to the American pilot who didn't shoot as him after he parachuted out. Shooting at him would have been like kicking a man when he's down. I know some pilots did but that's kind of sick, they're no longer a threat to you.
Depends on which side of the lines they are coming down on, our side well going to be a prisoner, their side potential enemy combatant getting into another aeroplane and killing more of ours etc. Ultimately is there a difference to walking bullets through the crew compartment of a German Ju88 or Do217, or gunning them 'defenceless' descending in a parachute to a safe welcome on their own side. Harsh but that's the reality of it.
@@jacobmoll8908 Polish pilots attached to the R.A.F were guilty of it until they were admonished by other allied pilots.
@@PortmanRd Well, THAT I believe - how manly is it to shoot at a defenceless enemy ? If you follow the stories of the greatest aces you will soon notice that they never sank THAT low....a true knight would never that.
I have seen a few things on the top aces and they seemed to be doing a job, defending their country and to hell with the politicians. Oddly this also seemed to cause a few issues after the war when in service for the west German airforce where many found themselves on the wrong side of politics, I therefore find it easier to admire them - they may have fought for a detestable regime but it was their fate and their calling for their country, not their leaders, they risked all for.
It was actually pretty rare to find young Germans who weren't committed Nazis during the war years since that generation had been raised in a totalitarian state during their formative years.
I cannot believe how young he was and did all of these feats. If you are further interested, Greg’s Airplanes and Automobiles has a great video on Hartmann and other German aces
Wow thank you for telling us the tale of this incredible man Simon.
Erich Hartmann inventing boom n zoom what a badass
I'm a sucker for war 1 & 2 and historical Related topics!
This, I love! 👏👏
A true Hero. Ace of Aces. Even the most Germans never heard of him. RIP
Age 71 is not that old. He would have been 100 years old now. That hard life in Russian captivity must have taken an extra toll on such a hardy individual.
His mom had a gliding school. You can tell he had amazing parents :)
yea I was surprised they moved to china lol
@@jinz0 very interesting people. especially back then living in a different country wasn't so normal
"Hey boobie! Get in closer!"
I am willing to bet he's not the only soldier to have said that.
While a nice joke I guess, you do realize that they spoke german right? And Bubi doesn't equal boobie it's more like lad in english
@@triblex305 yes i realize that and use it in my daily life, even here in the great state of Texas. But, as you did recognize, it was a joke.
@@eddiehancockii i'm german so it was quite hard ngl ;)
@@triblex305 nice to meet you, Friend!
Next on Biographics: Eric Cartman - Deadliest Mouth in South Park, Colorado
Lenny Bruce opened the door to a new style of "socially acceptable" comedy, bringing it to genteel audiences who had laughed at it behind closed doors and less reputable venues forever. Would be a good candidate for a video.
Hartmann is no doubt the best fighter ace on record, but his story is no where near as compelling as the Star of Africa himself: Hans-Joachim Marseille.
I'll agree with that. But his story is short.
@@matthewfinkenbinder5846 Aint that the truth? Some seriously short-lived fighters in the ww1/2 eras of aerial combat who lord only knows how they could have developed
Completely agree
I'm trying to figure out your choice of photos when describing his plane and showing a Finish Bf-109 or talking about Soviet aircraft and showing the squadron of RAF Hurricanes and a downed American P-40? I understand the Soviets obtained hurricanes and P-40s through lend lease. I would think that you have the ability to get pictures of those planes in Soviet markings.
He was right about the star-fighter .
It was a widow maker .
Hartmann was one of the greatest. Regardless if his kill numbers were fudged. A true Hero.
I don't think so. It might have been more.
Hero is not an appropriate term to anyone who contributed in ANYWAY to Hitlers war machine. Esp not someone who was a hero in the eyes of the Germans. Let all Nazis and those who admire or sympathize with them be removed from this world.
Kinda SUPER weird of you to call an actual literal Nazi a "hero"...
@@cleverusername9369 except he wasn't an actual literal nazi, they even talk about that in the video. He and his fellow pilots showed disdain for national socialism and hitler's administration.
@@jonathanfricke2660 doesn't matter, he wore the uniform, he killed Americans and Allies, I don't care about his personal feelings, he was a Nazi whether he liked it or not, he actively participated in killing Americans, just because he didn't like Hitler doesn't absolve him of enthusiastically murdering people in the military of the Nazis, in a Nazi plane, in a Nazi uniform, on behalf of the Nazis. His disdain didn't stop him from being known best for being the Nazis most successful airborne murderer.
I recently visited a full, unabridged interview of Hartman. I’m sure it was published after his death. It’s a very interesting story, and seems to have been destined to be who he was. His life is a story worth listening to.
Can we get a biographics on Franz Stigler and Charlie Brown? Theyre the pilots in the book "A Higher Call"
No bullets fly - sabaton
A Song about what happend along this two man.
The deadliest fighter ace is still the ghost of kiew. Mfer shot down like a hundret planes without even existing.
He was the greatest ever, no need to downplay his excellence.
"Screw you guys, I'm flying home."
Erich Hartmann: son of Medical doctor and glider school instructor mother what do you expect=Genius!
JG52... Well damn. I was already looking forward to seeing Simon struggle with pronouncing 'Jagdgeschwader zweiundfünfzig' 😂
I frequented a coffee shop in my hometown in the 90s, and a local mailman stopped in one day and noticed my OD field coat. We got to swapping military stories and I learned he did pilot training at Williams AFB. And he spoke fondly of Erich being brought in to lecture fledgling fighter pilots.
Hartmann is one of my fav aces, but the other was another german ace name marsielle, practically the opposite of hartman in many ways
Simon check out Ernst Udet the second highest ace of WWI behind Richthofen and the greatest aviator between the wars his stunts were death defying literally. Eric "Winkle" Brown would make a superb subject for a bio too.
Amazing that these accomplished fighter aces realized they were going up against a superior opponent along with taking notice of the fact that Hitler was crazy. Nevertheless they were proffesional and had much respect for what they were doing.
This matters little when your opponent outnumbers you 100 to 1 daily and has an unlimited production ability, he had about as much effect on the war as Hans Rudel did on the soviet tank force size by destroying about 600 tanks during the war.
The BF 109’s in rhr vidro have Finnish markings (yes, they used swasticas). Lufwaffe had iron cross on their planes.
A great video and very timely as I'm currently working on a project looking at German aces of WW2 and Erich Hartmann was the rock star of the Jagdwaffe. This makes up for your Mary Shelley video and I'll even forgive you for labelling a Ju-87 Stuka as a Sturmovik.
I would absolutely love to see an episode about Catalina de Erauso, I've been looking into her myself over the last couple days and her life is just... it's absolutely crazy
The ace of aces.
Great story, thanks. Erich definitely was the epitome of a ‘knight of the air’. I almost thought you were going to say Erich had brought in to testify as to the issues he had with the 104 and his predictions that it had issues and would cause deaths.
He was fired because of his allegations of corruption and his opposition to the F104
What an incredible warrior
It kind of amazes me how much people have little knowledge of Erich Hartmann.
Adolf Galland was admired by everyone with that sporty tache
1:30 to skip ad.
Great video, Simon! Could you also do one on Saburo Sakai?
Considering all my knowledge of Hartmann comes from a silly anime adaption of him this was super interesting to learn about the real man.
Even Russia finally put some respect on his name 👏 that speaks volumes
You for got the part of what hartman witnessed once he was handed over to the Soviets
Yes Hartmann was a superb Luftwaffe Jagdflieger, but I noticed a couple of photos of the superb Bf 109 fighter aircraft displaying the Finnish national Hakenkreuz emblem, this National ID emblem has nothing to do with any Nazi political beliefs. No on the contrary it was simply a national emblem a blue Hakenkreuz on a white bottom used by the Finnish Air Force at the time. Finlands association with Nazi Germany was purely out of necessity to help Finland to fight off the Soviet Bolshevik Untermensch Huns that wanted to conquer Finland. Basically the same reason as Sweden although neutral during WW2 that also feared an attack by the Soviet Bolshevik Huns after finishing off our Nordic brother and sister to the east. Thus we continued to ship iron ore to Germany as well as allowing Wehrmacht troops to use our railway system to move German Wehrmacht troops to Norway. But the German soldiers were not allowed to disembark on Swedish territory until crossed in to Norway.
"today's protagonist" a Nazi pilot convicted of war crimes 😭
Bubi would always pick a fight he knew he would easily win! No turning and burning for him!! "Boom and zoom" Helps to have a target rich environment!
I think that Eric Cartman is named after him
Trivia about the "Starfighter Affair" from German Wikipedia:
Hauptmann (Major) Heltzel's emergency landing in Nörvenich in 1965 subsequently found its way into the Guinness Book of Records in 1988, as the landing speed of 435 km/h (270.3 mp/h) was the highest speed at which an aircraft has ever successfully touched down.
You get it wrong about first time, he saw an enemy.His story goes like this. His C.O. was Herman Graf who inspired his black petals by use red ones.The first enemy planes he ever saw were Bell P39 Airacobras. The 109s had the height advantage and where unseen. The sight of the P39s freaked him out. He rolled out of formation and firewalled the throttle back to base..He realised what he had done was cowardice in face of enemy. So he started write a letter to Graf saying"If I am not to be shot I would like to transfer to be a medic as my father was a doctor and it was always my second choice of what to do with my life" When every one else got home. Graf just said,"First time nerves lad". The rest is history.Despite be on the wrong side. wear the wrong uniform and have wrong medals he was a ace human being. Some things he told me"Never order anyone to do something you would not do yourself" He said war was when two nasty old men sent young men out to kill other young men that they would rather be friends with. He also said You should not hate us [Germans] for the Nazis. I do not hate Americans for turn me over to Russians. I do not hate Russians for what the NKVD did to me.The 109 you keep show is the plane of the top Finnish ace.Proud to call ErichI a a good friend.Graf also won the diamonds.Sorry I never got to meet Gunther Rall but I didn't that us how it goes.
A man with tons of spine in every situation - and the readyness to live with the consequences of his decisions! You haven't even mentioned his opposition to Germany's purchase of F-104 planes that led to his dismissal.
Great Video!
Question, if you haven't done one, could you maybe do one about Prussian General Field Marshall Helmuth Karl Bernhard von Moltke?
He could probably make a pretty good video
At time indexes 4:30 and 6:19 you showed Messersmitt 109 fighter planes, but they were of the Air Force of Finland, not Nazi Germany. During WWII the Finnish airforce used the Swastika as its roundrel, but it had NOTHING to do with Nazism. It was just a design they chosed in 1918 when the Finnish airforce was founded, long before the Nazis were a thing. They dropped it as part of its logo in 2020.
I think the swastika has origins in Buddhism
A GREAT PILOT; HE REFUSED TO FIRE HIS GUNS UNTIL RIGHT ON TOP OF THE TARGET (DANGEROUSLY CLOSE).
Could we get a video on Billy Bishop? I feel like he isn't very known, but he was the top flying ace for Canada, & the British Empire.
I have been waiting for this one! Fantastic as always.
Edit: Holy crap he died only 2 days before I was BORN
He represents what most German soldiers and pilots were. Men that did they part but weren't members of Nazi party and thus didn't know about warcrimes that were committed by Nazis.
Rubbish, the Wehrmacht was inextricably involved in the Brutalising of Jews in Poland and then assisted the Einsatzgruppen operations following Operation Barbarossa. It’s known that the fate of the so-called subhumans in the east was well known within Germany from at least 1943.
They knew about the atrocities they just kept quiet
@@jacktattisno they did not my dad fought in Russia and he told us kids there were rumours but the soldiers did not beliefe them and Bubi hartmam was stationed at Lagerlechfeld some km away were i was a very young luftwaffe soldier at landsberg am Lech 1964 / 1965
Nicely done...
Can you please do
THE STAR OF AFRICA
Hans-Joachim Marseille
next..
My father was in JG27 S3 with him ...
Very interesting pilot..
A great video. Great content, wonderful assessment of the life and achievements of Erich Hartmann. Thank you for this video.
Excellent video 📹
For a warrior, peace-time is harder to succeed than war-time.
Hartmann was truely a brave man. A hero who fought hard against the cancer that is judaeo Bolshevism. I salute you
Nice vid... one about Werner Molders would be super cool as well 😎
I read about him in the late '80s. 🦅
Eric Cartman - "screw you guys, I'm going home"
Eric Hartman - "screw you guys, I'm going in"
At 19:58 there is a photo from a museum. Does anyone know which museum this is? Thanks.
I just can't stop hearing Eric Cartman...
Erich Hartmann may have fought for the wrong side but learning about his contributions are totally worth it for advancing the tactics of aviation. I hate that certain historical figures cant be talked about merely because they are deemed irredeemable. Learning from history's baddest villains is not the same as admiring them.
this man wasn't even a villain. he was just the citizen of a country that was putting itself in a compromising position and he decided to make the best of it
@@basteagui Nuremberg would like to differ
@@theawesomeman9821Yea no the bad guys won have fun in your 1984 social credit pedophilia, lgbt, Tiktok, feminist, capitalist, communist fucked up world you have created even Patton knew you fucked up
Future Video suggestion -
Eamon DeValera (1882-1975) - prominent political leader in 20th century Ireland who, after the Irish war of independence from 1919 to 1921, was in the public eye for over forty years from 1922 until his death were he served as head of government (Taoiseach) and head of state (president). He was nearly executed in the Easter Rising in 1916 and was key in putting into place the new constitution on 1937. A very prominent figure in Irish history.
I prefer the Finnish Pilot Ilmari Juutilainen. He scored 96+ (highest non-German score). More importantly, he never took a bullet from an enemy aircraft and never lost a wingman.
THE BABY FACED FLYING ACE ASSASSIN
Never forget that, on the Eastern front, Hartmann participated in a war of annihilation against the Slavic peoples of Eastern Europe. We normally don't refer to wars as genocides, but this one definitely was.
Hartmann should not be considered a hero. At best, he was a naive young man, at worst, a war criminal. Today, historians know that basically all soldiers on the Eastern front knew about the war crimes going on. Make of that what you will.
@@pegamini7582 I never claimed that the allies were innocent. It was definitely not a black and white situation. But none of that bombing of civilians by the allies would ever have happened without the Nazis starting their genocidal war.
Hartmann was a part of that war and, as far as I can find out, an eager part Why else would hr try to improve himself all the time?
In my eyes, this makes him a mass murderer.
@@diedertspijkerboer”genocidal war” Belgium killed millions of Africans in Congo just years prior. Why does every power but Germany get a pass? So ignorant.
@@ElizaWebbg I didn't mention those things because they aren't related to this vid.
And I don't ignore unpleasant facts. I am well aware of how Belgium treated the Congo. Also, I am Dutch and the Netherlands committed a war with genocide in it in 1949/1950. I have shared this fact online many, many times. But the Dutch-Indonesian war wasn't a genocidal war. Germany attacked east with genocide as a main goal. The Dutch wanted to reconquer Indonesia, which was terrible, but not a genocidal goal.
So the war that Hartmann fought in was way, way worse. I suggest that you stop making false assumptions and learn more history before you attack someone.
@@diedertspijkerboer Germany being a genocidal machine is obnoxiously false. I know history, enjoy your delusions in sodomite capitol of Europe though, cheers.
3:22 "local knockoff of the boy scouts" lol love it
How must it have been like for his American Instructors when they trained him on a Jetfighter?
"Captain, you are assigned to train that German guy."
Captain: "Does he know how to fly a Fighter Plane?"
Finally 😃👍 been waiting for soo Long! Thank you soo much ❤️
There was Joachim Marseille to contend with Erich Hartmann for the title. If the former had lived longer and sent to Soviet theatre of war, he could have out-aced Hartmann.
Can you do a video on the "San Patricios" (Saint Patrick's battalion)? Thanks
love your videos.
Cheers 🍻
Can you believe how young Hartmann was
1922: born
1932: 10
1939: 17
1940: 18
Best of the best this guy….
Another pilot worth a bio: Hans Joachim Marseille, another pilot with high numbers of shootdowns and openly anti Nazi, except he was KIA
Died in an accident rather than by enemy fire. Quite possibly the most talented air ace of them all... as voted by many of his contemparies after the war.
I think he had a black companion that he guaranteed safety and gave instructions to his that in case he (marsielle) dies, the companion should stay with them. Cementing his anti nazi approach
@@victorperfecto6267 Yea i think he was a POW , wonder whatever happened to him
When I saw the title I thought he meant the one from South park