Here's The Number One Mod That Can Transform Your Car Into an Off-Roader!
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Tommy mounts up some new Falken tires to our long-term Range Rover to see if we can improve its trail capability!
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Very interesting watching this after your video on the $20k Toyota Land Cruiser against the $3k LR Disco 2. When you see how easily this RR went through the same tests as the Toyota & Disco on its original All Season ‘street’ tyres, you realise just how good the traction control system on the RR is and how capable it is ‘out of the box’ 😮
You can say that about the 5th Gen. 4R TRD OR as well. "out of the box" on factory chosen tires, it will walk the same terrain that LRD does no problem.
Sometimes people forget that it's not just about the base cost of the vehicle. My Audi is twice as much as my Toyota to insure. It's also insanely expensive to maintain, since the Audi also has a supercharger. Going to the dealer, it's $800-1200 USD for regular maintenance.
Granted, you can go to a different mechanic (not dealer) and/or do work yourself, but most people don't do that. With something like a RR/LR, I think most would rather trust the dealer than random mechanic who doesn't specialize in them, but TFL viewers are likely car people and a different breed. For most people, buying one of these (even at 45% original MSRP) is still an expensive purchase, assuming you don't have it break down every other week.
Loving the LR content! Theyre so much more capable than people give em credit for! Keep it coming!
Just bought those tires last month for my 21 explorer. Did a lot of research and they seemed like the best option in Jersey right before the bad weather. Good to see em on TFL
I'm glad to see they choose RR wheels. For some reason I suspected some cheap Walmart wheel. On the other hand, considering its a Range Rover and it has air suspension, I wouldn't worry about ride quality being an issuer. Grip however, makes a big difference, especially in snow
As long as you keep the crossover pipes/coolant pipes in good condition I rarely ever see the engine fails. The only time I do is a cross over pipe fails and they overheat.
I run these Falken's on my 22 Hyundai Santa Fe in the stock size on the factory 19" wheel and they did great in the snow. I'm now running 18" with Blizzaks that I bought used and the extra sidewall makes the ride so much better.
I changed the brakes on my RRS Supercharged down to the non-supercharged ones so I could fit 18" wheels and I would say it was totally worth it!
Hi bro ..was this easy to do ..I hv RR sport SC ..wat about the shocks is that Orginal still
It sure they make them but Cooper STT PRO mud tires kick ass and if you could fit a set of them on there they’d blow your mind!! I love mine they go through everything
Considering Range Rover is now a Rolls Royce, S class merc competitor now it’s mad how good it is Offroad. The previous gen was peak Range Rover and that’s a proper farmers workhorse in the UK, pretty much every farmer in the UK has one, they will have something more rough and ready, but the RR will be used for general farm stuff and towing animals to shows or market and the odd trip out with the wife.
Range Rover's heritage is off-road vehicle. It simply got gussied up over the years and now its considered a full luxury brand. Just like the $150k G-Wagon, and the rest of the Mercedes line. In North America, we only get the full luxury versions of these vehicles. For example, the sort wheel base S-Class isn't even imported. Nor is Audi A8 or BMW 7 Series for that matter.
I did the same and fitted 20” LR alloys to my L405 with Falken Wildpeaks- my third set on my LRs. I’ve found them to be excellent all round, fairly quiet and great in the wet which is very important where I live. Terrain response gets better with each generation and it’s fantastic on the L405. That LWB will be interesting off road. Thanks.
35 + years experience working Range rovers off road has taught me always invest in set BFG AT K2 tyres if You want to turn your RR into a proper go anywhere 4x4 workhorse
BFG ATs outlast all other ATs tyres , You can get 2-3 times milage on a properly setup air suspension RR 🤠👍
do you think range rovers are unreliable? or would you recommend them if you can do your own work?
Per JLR techs, you don’t air down 20” wheels to off-road. Light duty load on Defender for example is like 35psi instead of normal loads of about 44psi. The techs said to lower down to the light duty pressure level and MAYBE down to like 30psi, but anything more is unnecessary and ups your chance of pinch flats or side wall tears.
Just got some Cooper Discoverer AT3 4s. American made. Seem very high quality. Def better than the Nexens and Goodyears that come stock on my truck. Best part.... 600 and change installed at Walmart. Black Friday deal cut the price in half!
Overland Journal did a big AT shootout years ago and the Coopers took their overall prize. Ive gone through a mess with them on my Jeep and Frontier. They're great tires.
Dont forget Goodyear owns Cooper .
That was exactly what i was looking for - I am interested in long term costs and your true review/opinions. I like the narrower over the wide tire based upon research I have watched on different tire and off-road channels.
Just paid $42,500 out the door for a 2019 TD6 with 59k miles, 1 owner, crazy clean carfax and still CPO for 3 more months.
Really great car. The diesel is something I wish you guys would pickup for a long term test. Not many around in the states.
As a Range Rover owner, with no sidewall, there are no sidewalls you can puncture...
That’s what I was thinking, but not surprising from this poser.
Why poser?
I skip the tires and ride directly on rims; 35” rims give plenty of clearance, and the more you gouge them the more they grip!
@@Angel.Garcia1"Poser"....elaborate, because this ting can follow some modified vehicles pretty easily.
But definitely rims you can destroy.
One of three LR / RR on my list for a future buy.
Man, the prices in the mid-$30K? Sign me up lol. Also, since Old Man Roman dailies the Range Rover, how about an MPG comparison of the 20" vs the 21"? Just curious if there's a noticeable difference.
I just swapped my 19" wheels to 20" on my Discovery 4 (LR4) and got some T/A tires that work waaaay better than the stock Michelin Sport road tires. Always a good swap makes the difference and they look absolutely better than before.
i went with Rhino steel 18s on 32" Ko2s, I love them. they look beefy as well.
Excited for the long term on this one.
I got the same tires as soon as I got a new Compass. Can't wait to see more.
Cool to see y'all changing stock tires , to something that people actually run on these types of vehicles in mountainous territory.
A very capable vehicle all round. Nice review !
Falkens are fantastic tires on and offroad. And any condition.
I have those same tires on on Cherokee Active Drive II and love them. I’d like to see you guys do a comparison of a used Cherokee active drive I versus active drive II. You do a lot of stuff with a the TrailHawk, but you’ve ignored the active drive II.
they should start a new channel TFL land rover
They went from criticizing Land Rovers to owning 4 of them.
@@andrewgee241 yeah exactly, now it feels like they're posting land rover content every day
Me thinks lawyers got involved .
TFL is now practically a part of JLR's US Media Group...
Rovers are addictive. They have their faults as do all the great marques but you almost can't help but fall in love with them if you're a car guy.
Wish you could try some AT3 general grabber tyres on this car..you will get lots of views as it’s the go to for many people on L405 with all terrrain tyres. Great video
Those tyres should be superb throughout the winter 👍😉💪
Let's get all these new Rovers to Moab asap before it snows!!!!
Those wheels and tires look a lot better than the 21s.
When you guys do your builds and upgrade the tires what load rating do you usually go for? Do you think SL is good enough or do you prefer to go with a C or E to better cope with the Colorado rocks?
Great video! Could you try some of the other modes on the articulation test? Some other video I saw (that I can’t seem to find now) mentioned that mud rut mode may be better for that articulating terrain since rock crawl mode prioritizes keeping the cab level above other things, and thus lifting wheels unnecessarily.
how is the fuel economy between the two different tires?
Great Video! Thank you!
Cool vid 👍
You should mention the tyre pressures you're running cos that is king off off-road ability . . . Even though they're low profile tyres
Good choice for Romans daily driver. Not quite as flashy as he has been in the past with the Raptors and TRX's. But it should tick off enough of his boxes to make him content.
On my Tacoma TRD off-road 4x4 I'm going to put some ironman 10 ply all-terrain tires there around $155 per tire & they seem pretty legit with 15/32 of tread...
Always best to pick the smallest wheels with all-terrain tires!
Smallest possible wheels, you mean. Because SUVs like this usually have big brakes, any wheel size "18 or smaller won't fit.
@@damilolaakanni you can’t pick something if it isn’t available. Go on the Land Rover configurator and it will give you the choice of wheels for each model. For example on a D250 Defender you can pick the 18” wheel, whereas on the D300 Defender you can only pick a minimum of 19”.
@andrewhurstcars I mean if you're buying used, like TFL did. If you're buying new you'd definitely have to pick the smallest available wheels.
@@damilolaakanni yes for sure, but everyone on this page knows what the smallest wheels are for each model 👍🏻
You could have used a 255/60r20 tire that would have given you another inch and a half of sidewall.
This is off road luxury monster. Put some 275 60 20 off road tyres on.
Many Jeepers think off road = rock crawl. These cars not made for rock crawling. It’s more for posh ride through the green fields of the UK or deserts of the Africa/Middle East.
Not everyone is interested in or have desire to go through Rubicon or Moab trails.
As a multiple Rover owner, I have EVERY desire to go through the Rubicon and Moab trails. And have done so many times. 😁
Can you post the reference of the wheels and tires you used ?
Tire placement + controlled wheel spin seems to keep the rubber on the rims... who knew?
Cool video, keep on keeping on guys!
Theres a video i saw about the pizza cutter vs wide tire comparison and it was actually interesting to learn that the narrow tire had more tire deformation earlier than the wide tire which helps with going over medium size rocks and bumps. I just forgot the youtuber lol
Sorry Tommy, the 3 peak snowflake symbol does NOT make this a winter tire. This standard simply means, “This symbol is a seal of approval of sorts that indicates the tire has been tested and it is capable of at least 110 percent of the traction of a reference all-season tire”. In my experience, they suck in ice and slush.
No, he is technically correct. It is legally regarded as a winter tire. As far as engineering goes I won't challenge that. But the Canadian and US government do legally regard the three peak snow rating as a winter tire.
It does make it a true winter tire. It's not a true snow tire, but it is most definitely a true winter tire.
@@hermanjohnson9180 you are correct. Technically. Realistically though, tires marketed as "all season" with the three peak marking are usually worthless on frozen, icy roads or in slush. The standard is based on increased performance in "medium packed snow". I'll keep putting tires marketed as "winter tires" on my Ram and watch the KO2 crowd slide through intersections all winter long.
@@Japplesnap actually, you have that backwards. It will work great in deep snow. But how often do people drive in deep snow anymore in North America?
@@TheNightmoves Interesting. I'll take your word for it but for the all-terrain truck/SUV tires then that rating really counts. Unless it's super cold then you might as well have a snow tire. BF Goodrich and the Falken AT3W are amazing. Being near equal in snow and ice to a winter tire. And in some cases performing better when there is water. In the test I saw the winter tire was only the better option when it's really really cold. (-10 or below)
Liking the new wheel/tire setup. I just want to point out that an all-terrain tire with the three peak rating is not actually a true winter tire.
It's not a true snow tire, but it is considered a true winter tire. The difference is that the three peak/snowflake symbol makes a tire legal to use in winter/snow in areas where winter tires must be used by law.
Loving these videos keep them coming love land rovers!!!
It’s amazing what new tires change the ride of the vehicle
Not the ride, the capability. The rise is being evaluated here. But the RR already has air suspension and a premium car rides despite the large tires.
110k for a LWB V8? You guys get some crazy deals over there. That car would have been well over 150k euros new. A 2017 regular wheelbase V6 diesel was 124k in Vogue trim, which is the entry level, with only a few extras added.
The car cost the same amount to make. The difference in price reflect the different nations and their import tax rate.
Will these Falken tires be durable in warmer temperatures, or will they deteriorate like a snow tire? Also, what's your view on this set up with tire chains added? I need to prepare to drive a difficult unpaved road (it's been called treacherous) in the mountains and snow of Montana. FYI, I'll be driving from Nevada then I'll need to deal with this last difficult seven miles of the roadtrip. Thanks!
I have those tires on my 2019 Buick Enclave, So much better than the Goodyear Assurance all seasons it came with for MN winters
What happened to tumbleweed Ranch? The best thing that’s ever been on any TFL channel? And where has David been? I didn’t like that guy much in the beginning but he’s awesome. And I’d love to see him on your channel building his greatness.
I know it would add time, cost, and inventory issues but with offroad comparison videos I wish they would all run the same tires. Especially if say one of them came with a more street orientated tire.
Agree but the logistics make it nearly impossible.
I just bought a 2013 L405 with every option other then then Autobiography LWB stuff and I paid $25,000 after everything and it is the biggest bargain out there. I can get a massage while doing 150 and then go off road after I slow down. Coming from a 2011 L332 HSE it is night and day.
Better! But still too little tire sidewall. At least a 19 inch rim should work here. The Wheel could also be made larger overall. Keyword ground clearance.
He said that.
You guys should check out the maxxis at
Great Job Tommy ... And Camera Ninja Kase 😊
Please do more videos on the Unimog.
The smaller wheels always look better .
Oversized wheels look silly imo.
Not a true winter tire but light snow capable.
The smaller wheels with more sidewall look so much better.
Which is why manufactures sell them with smaller wheels? Betcha didn't think about that one before you typed it.
Sorry, those are not off-road tires...I had something similar BF Goodrich "All terrain" on my 97 Ram 1500...the mud or snow would "pack up" in the tread lugs making for an erzats slick tire....the voids are too small for the tread to spit out the material. The Interco Cobalt is my tire of choice, a great void to lug ratio that spits out any material you may want to drive over...maximum traction with zero compromises.
You guys should do a pizza cutter versus wide tires
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The brakes are that size for a reason.. I wonder what the insurance company would say if you told them you are going to reduce brake size
Y’all need to race this against the Mustang GT and other performance cars
Andres pit? More like a money pit 💰 🔥
why did you guys not get a taller tyre??
Why do these things come with like 22" wheels stock anyway? I thought 18"s were already big. Disc brakes?
Im close to buying a discovery 5 with an aftermarket warranty.
You could have got some really gnarly off-road tyres !
The ghost noise at 2:55 freaked me out lol
Unbelievable, this vehicle would cost 75,000+ dollars here in Germany!
There's no pond to cross or taxes taxes attached. The same in true in reverse
@@krane15 The Range Rover is produced for the German market in Slovakia. Slovakia is in the EU! So no taxes or pond. That can't be the reason.
Ive ran those Falkens AT Trails on a couple of vehicles, they are great for medium duty off road and snow. My hillbilly intuition would require me to plastidip or paint the wheels black to give it a different look.
please test a niva or jimny
@12:08 True that pizza cutters gonna help but atleast in 4Runner world pizza cutters don't have good options. For example all 255/80R17 are Load E tires. I've used Load E 275/70R17 in the past and Mrs didn't like them even running 32psi on pavement. I had to sell them at few miles eating loss of my money. I will not go more that Load C for my 5000lbs & 5060lbs 4Runners.
Is this L405 a supercharged V6 or V8 ?
V8
Glad to see you guys disproving the myth that these things are wildly unreliable
Lexus TX hybrid off road test with LC and RR.
You mean the GX 550?
those are street tires Tommy!
I run theses tires on my wife's RAV4. They are good for mall crawler suv's, Not my pick for any offroading.
Id like to interview the person who actually spent $110k on that thing and ate $70k of depreciation.
Easy to find thousands of people who did just that. But to be honest, 98% of these vehicles are leased and returned, and then leased a second time. Only when they get to their third or fourth owner are they typically sometimes purchased.
Of course, the "problem" is...if something did go wrong, you'd need a Bank Loan to pay the Repair Bill.
She’s a beauty.
Dry surface, no drama...
Doesn’t matter what kind of tires you put on it’s got a range rover on the top of them you wasted a lot of good money on tires.
They did not pay a penny for them. Falken sponsors ya know. Hell, if I had a sponsor paying for my stuff, I would not care who it was. ;)
Go back and watch your Land Rover Defender video and ask yourself if tires matter. 🤣🤣
That’s an AT tyre? Really? Looks like a road tread to me.
Extremely mild AT. Then again, you have to remember half the world thinks a KO2 is some kind of extreme off-road monster. 🤣
Non scientific, my l494 on half worn 21s would have done that just as well.
KO2 rukes
KO2....the white claw of tires!
YES! Next question you need help with?
Tyres. Not tires
You paid $40k? Lol
That seems reasonable considering that it had a sticker price of $110k when it was new.
Stupid to design any vehicle to require 20” wheels. All vehicles ride better with an actual tire
You bought it at more like 60% off original price. This vehicle doesn’t hold value.
I am frankly surprised it was 40K ish. 25K and it would have been a bargain.
Start using Nitto instead of Falken all the time.
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Nitto , not a supporter of the channels
Can you please spell tyres properely
We speak American bub.
So you just showed us that your street tire did the same as your AT tire.
I stopped watching as soon as I seen the weak ass tire they threw on it. I really taught they were going to put a real off-road tire. Great tire for all season driving and minor off road. But with those big brakes you won’t be able to fit a proper off-road tire without lifting her.
I now remember why I stopped watching tfl
TFL has never been about serious off-roading. Even their most extreme vehicles and trails are very mild; where did you get the idea they were anything else? While I might choose a tire that mild for my dd work truck that sees 99.99% pavement and would never choose it for one of my Rovers (My wife's DD L322 RR has Mickey Thompson Baja Boss ATs in 33" on it) I think they actually picked a tire appropriate to the use case they outlined. A mostly street commuter that will see some mild dirt once in a while.