How Well Do "3-Peak Mountain Snowflake" Tires ACTUALLY Work in Snow?

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024

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  • @TFLcar
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      @richardnottelmann58 10 місяців тому +3

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    • @Queensizemusic
      @Queensizemusic 10 місяців тому

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  • @charliefoxtrot7219
    @charliefoxtrot7219 10 місяців тому +39

    Gents, I'm looking forward to the show about the dedicated snow tire compared to the Three Peak Mountain tires. There is obviously a difference between the thrill of actually driving and computer aided/controlled driving.

  • @kennygp2004
    @kennygp2004 10 місяців тому +4

    I put these same exact tires on my 2016 Toyota Camry SE 4cyl with a 2" lift and love them! I'm in Kingman AZ and these tires are great in the winter. We had 10" of snow in March, lots of monsoons and these tires perform well while keeping the same OEM tire size.

  • @MrJordanwain
    @MrJordanwain 10 місяців тому +13

    Looking forward to seeing the dedicated snow tyre vs the 3pmsf tyre test.

  • @Druezy
    @Druezy 10 місяців тому +4

    I was very impressed with my Wild Peak A/T trails on my Rogue Sport AWD, especially in thunderstorms. Living in New Hampshire however and doing a lot of snowboarding has led me to the Ice-x snow from Michelin for winter. Looking forward driving through some good snow!

  • @craigwilleto5674
    @craigwilleto5674 10 місяців тому +4

    Mastercraft Glacier Grip 2 work very well. Took me everywhere in the snow with a 2 wheel drive jeep patriot. Did well in the summer in Phoenix for a couple of weeks. Didn't pop like these said some snow tires do.

  • @jdpst20
    @jdpst20 9 місяців тому +1

    LOVED my Falken Wildpeak AT3 tires on my 2017 Discovery HSE. In the mountains of Colorado and some really dense deep snow 6/7+ inches up mountain passes in "SNOW" mode I never felt that I was ever going to get stuck. They were also fantastic off road and on the trail in all sorts of situations. I put about 35,000 miles on them before having to get rid of the Disco for engine issues. I would buy the tires again 100%

  • @jedironin380
    @jedironin380 10 місяців тому +11

    Wait... So they're designed to help you accelerate faster, but NOT turn or stop better?! Sounds like a built-in recipe for disaster!

  • @DrOldsmobile91
    @DrOldsmobile91 10 місяців тому +2

    Im running BFG Trail Terrains on my Avalanche for almost 2 years now and they have been very good in the snow and ice.

  • @wblchzhd
    @wblchzhd 10 місяців тому +4

    They may not be snow tires, but I've put 3 peak rated tired on two different vehicles, and they were way better than standard.

  • @jtr990
    @jtr990 10 місяців тому +2

    Looking at the TPMS problem you're having, I have a good feeling those aftermarket sensors were programmed in the wrong frequency and protocol.
    To find the right frequency, almost every TPMS diagnostic and relearn tool feature a Remote Keyless Entry & Radio Frequency monitor to identify the correct frequency.
    As a mechanic, that's where I start before doing any TPMS service.

  • @justintarvid
    @justintarvid 10 місяців тому +4

    Did Discount Tire perform a relearn with a TPMS scan tool? If not that's why the TPMS light is on. You can't just stick new sensors in a wheel and expect them to sync to the vehicle, has to be "relearned".
    Some sensors have stock programming that works with different vehicles - still requires a relearn to be done. Some sensors required to be programmed FOR the vehicle and then a relearn to program them TO the vehicle.

  • @craigquann
    @craigquann 10 місяців тому +2

    For all intents and purposes, any tire with the "3 peak snowflake" is legally considered a winter tire. (It's not as good per se) but considered as such for insurance companies. At least here. I'm not sure if they would exempt you from having to chain up in mountain passes. And yes they are absolutely rated for turning and braking and are a softer compound. They do fall short on ice however but are still better than any all season.

    • @tyeetamer
      @tyeetamer 9 місяців тому

      Next time try researching a little before you comment. The 3PMSF rating has nothing to do with turning or breaking, nor does it mean the tire has a softer compound.

  • @drbobvs
    @drbobvs 8 місяців тому +1

    I’ve seen winter tests where some M+S tires performed better in the snow than some 3PMS tires. 🤷🏻‍♂️. So it’s best to research thoroughly .

  • @panagiotisf7228
    @panagiotisf7228 10 місяців тому +1

    I have the cooper discoverer at3 4s with that 3 peek rating they are amazing in snow and in ever offroad trail I've done including deep mud rocks rain on trails over slick rocks in the north east and had no issues

    • @histyler
      @histyler 10 місяців тому +2

      I did alot of research and came to the same conclusion as you, and based on reviews on tire rack cooper discoverer at3 4s had the highest rating in winter. And I switched for Hankook dynapro at tires and its a world of difference.

  • @erich.4305
    @erich.4305 10 місяців тому +5

    i would love to see a test like this with a front wheel drive car.

  • @Kung.Pao.Kitty.
    @Kung.Pao.Kitty. 10 місяців тому +7

    I have the Wildpeak AT3Ws on our FJ. Love them!

    • @JahyMoonwalker
      @JahyMoonwalker 10 місяців тому +2

      Yes! I have a supercharged Tundra with those tires and they're great

    • @Kung.Pao.Kitty.
      @Kung.Pao.Kitty. 10 місяців тому +3

      @@JahyMoonwalker Don't get me started with superchargers. I want to slap one on our FJC.

  • @Stratotank3r
    @Stratotank3r 10 місяців тому +2

    It does not matter how old men are. Let it snow, give them a car and they will be happy. Waiting also for some snow. Got new Hankooks Kinergy 4S2 H750.

  • @cpftank09
    @cpftank09 9 місяців тому

    I’ve got the Falken AT Trail for summer and Nokian R5’s for winter on our Ascent. There is a big difference for sure. Mainly in turns, braking, packed snow and cold temps since they stay pliable.

  • @practicalguy973
    @practicalguy973 10 місяців тому +3

    Finally a proper explanation of the 3 peak mountain snow rated tire with an explanation of the difference between winter tires also. Most reviewers focus only on how well that tire type works without comparing tire types. If more people understand this I'll see less 4X4 trucks in ditches in places with cold winter if they get real winter tires. People that buy big 3 peak mountain snow rated tires think they have the best tire for all conditions. Simply not true when you drive in colder harsher winter with more ice and hard packed snow.

    • @mikefoehr235
      @mikefoehr235 10 місяців тому

      Using 4hi not only gets you moving forward much easier, also decreases brake distance. I use 4hi in the snow ❄️ all the time. Do not exceed 100 kph or 60 mph in 4 hi.

  • @admranger
    @admranger 8 місяців тому

    Andre hooning around had me reminiscing to my misspent youth. 1974 Plymouth Valiant w/a slant 6 and all season-ish tires on snow in South Dakota. Car control training ground in the winter.

  • @gs98999
    @gs98999 10 місяців тому +1

    Kudos to you guys for actually looking up the meaning behind the 3peak snowflake ratings. It really means very little as you can see. I think it tricks most people when selecting tires into thinking their 3peak tire is good in winter. Need more reviews calling this out.

  • @ckm-mkc
    @ckm-mkc 10 місяців тому +13

    Had these on a Volvo XC70, it was fantastic on-road and even better off-road. Did around 4000ft of vertical climbing on a 2 mile switchback trail with 6" rock ledges and lots of loose, flat rock no problem. Never tried them in the snow, sold the car (due to terrible gas mileage + high used car prices) before the season. Another terrific and similar tire is the Pirelli WeatherActive, which I have on the replacement car.

  • @normanbruce7431
    @normanbruce7431 10 місяців тому +3

    Hi from Costa Rica. No snow around here only one set of tires used.

    • @mikefoehr235
      @mikefoehr235 10 місяців тому +1

      Those hurricanes 🌀 tho

  • @madjh8
    @madjh8 6 місяців тому

    Tires + a good traction system and that is all for a nice snowy week end. I love my RR.

  • @craigquann
    @craigquann 10 місяців тому

    I run general grapper ATx on my sierra year round and have done so for 6 plus years. They work just fine in canadian winters.

  • @kurtburkhardt5862
    @kurtburkhardt5862 9 місяців тому

    Have had quite a few tires on my SUV's over the years. I had Interco Truxxus STX on our Blazer and they were great in mud, but snow and wet roads not so much. They were also very loud. We had Pirelli Scorpion AT+ on our FWD Escape and they were great not only in rain and snow but pretty good in mud. I think they were 3 peak rated. We originally had General Grabber AT+ on our 4Runner also good on road, rain and snow. Maybe not quite as good as the Pirelli's. We switched to Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT's and they are surprisingly good on road, in rain and snow for an agressive off-road tire. Amazing in mud and trails. Dry on road and highway performance did suffer a bit. They are also 3 peak rated. Have heard good reviews of the Wildpeaks. They do seem to work well on the Range Rover.

  • @JRs-guitars
    @JRs-guitars 9 місяців тому

    I can attest to the wildpeak trail tires...had them on my Grand Cherokee. No complaints. But I just got new AT3Ws on my Z71 yesterday from Discount Tire....same issue with my TPMS.

  • @wallyblackler46
    @wallyblackler46 10 місяців тому

    On ice filled roads when I lived in Nova Scotia I use the 660 fire stone on my vehicle and never got stuck once it’s a racing tire. Have a great day.

  • @lanceripplinger8352
    @lanceripplinger8352 10 місяців тому

    I like how you guys test all these things. I have Hankook Dynapro AT2 Extremes on my truck, that also have "3-Peak Mountain Snowflake".

  • @ski_tron2446
    @ski_tron2446 9 місяців тому

    I’ve used budget winter tyres and 3PMSF all weather (Vredestein quatrac) in snow. The all weathers were better. If I lived in Scandinavia or Canada and had really cold conditions, I’d go with a premium winter tyre.

  • @matthewgingerich2540
    @matthewgingerich2540 8 місяців тому

    Guys, when you do your 3pmsf vs. winter tire video, do you think you could also compare studless winter tires against studded ones? Ive seen lots of different tire and traction aid comparison videos for winter driving, but somehow it seems nobody has done one comparing studded and studless tires!

  • @shattered115
    @shattered115 10 місяців тому +3

    The most important part to adjust in snow is the loose nut behind the wheel.

    • @Redhawk24
      @Redhawk24 10 місяців тому +1

      I’ll take a bad driver with winter tires over a good driver with slicks any day.

    • @shattered115
      @shattered115 10 місяців тому +2

      @@Redhawk24 Slicks is a little dramatic. But an experienced snow driver with all seasons can be very capable in snow. I have known a few New Englanders who could take a rear wheel drive car with all season through 8 inches of snow.

    • @Redhawk24
      @Redhawk24 10 місяців тому +2

      @@shattered115 agree.

    • @lego4virgo
      @lego4virgo 10 місяців тому +1

      I saw what you did there..😄

  • @BikeSausage
    @BikeSausage 9 місяців тому

    The 3PMSF tyres are very common in Europe. Two of my UK-based cars run Michelin Cross Climates with this rating all year round. They have to drive 600 miles to get to the mountains so they’re obviously a compromise, but a pretty good one. On my Volvo V90 Cross Coutry B5D I get about 45mpg (UK) on a long, fast journey. And in two winters, I have never been stranded. My car that lives permanently in the Alps (another V90 CC) wears more extreme Michelin Alpins all year round - but I really cannot detect how they are better in heavy snow or hard pack.

  • @LionRunner
    @LionRunner 10 місяців тому +2

    With my experience all tires have different pros and cons, haven’t found a “do it all” tire I have found. Example my Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac was very good in winter conditions than BFG KO2 and Falken Wildpeak AT3W. But for offroad traction BFG KO2 was better. I wonder how BFG KO3 would be. Now I’m trying Toyo Open Country AT3. For anyone asking why not dedicated winter tires? Here in CO temperature fluctuate A LOT. So for me now worth the trouble of changing tires very often. Else I would melt the dedicated snow tires like Roman said. Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac LTs are also studable if anyone want to go that route.

    • @tritchie6272
      @tritchie6272 9 місяців тому

      Of course not being an insider I can't say for sure,but I suspect this class of tires is made with the weather conditions you described in mind. It seems to me like they would be the best compromise possible so if you have to get out you can. But then again I'm abit of a fan of the Jack of all Trades concept,even if it means none can be mastered. For most folks being able to do everything in safety is probably better than being a Master at any one thing but unable to do anything else.

    • @Jeff-ib7wc
      @Jeff-ib7wc 7 місяців тому

      I’ve found the Toyo AT3s to be excellent on the road and very good in all weather and trail conditions.

    • @LionRunner
      @LionRunner 7 місяців тому

      @@Jeff-ib7wc that's good to know. I havn't had a chance to test the OC AT3s on a good trail. (New born, so no offroading for a while). On pavement in winter conditions they were pretty good.

  • @aaronelliott413
    @aaronelliott413 10 місяців тому +1

    lol, no surprise the Russian is at home drifting in the snow. Love the content!

  • @anthonymrskipt9252
    @anthonymrskipt9252 10 місяців тому

    Judging by the amount of snow “attaching” to the tires, they were working as at least a basic level of “snow” tires. To me, that’s kind of the biggest factor in whether the tires actually work in the snow. Obviously, real winter tires work better, but there are always trade-offs if you off-road. I put Blizzaks on my LC200 a few years ago, but, to me, that meant no off-roading until those tires came off (the rubber was so soft that even a little time on some rocks was ripping them apart). They made a huge improvement in the snow over the KO2s that were on the rest of year, but that was a bit of a bummer. I had Nokian Outpost ATs on my Ram 1500 and those were better in the snow than the KO2s, but not as good as dedicated snows, of course. I never felt the need for dedicated snows with those tires - different vehicle, of course. On the other end, my Model S LR would be undeliverable in the snow without dedicated snows (in my opinion). Always love these tires test videos!

  • @electriceel2293
    @electriceel2293 10 місяців тому

    Well enough to get you past most California chain control for AWD/4WD vehicles.
    Try the Nokian Tyres Hakkapeliitta 10 SUV studded winter tire!

  • @richfarfugnuven6308
    @richfarfugnuven6308 10 місяців тому +2

    I like studded snow tires, but it doesn't snow enough in Boulder anymore to justify them.

    • @chriscon8463
      @chriscon8463 10 місяців тому

      I’ve got them on my wife’s Forester; we’re in the snow belt on Lake Erie in NWPA. They’re excellent in the snow!

    • @chriscon8463
      @chriscon8463 10 місяців тому

      I’ve got them on my wife’s Forester; we’re in the snow belt on Lake Erie in NWPA. They’re excellent in the snow!

  • @NatesHomeTours
    @NatesHomeTours 9 місяців тому

    I prefer the Bridgestone Blizzak's on my 2017 Cherokee. With those on and in Snow mode I haven't found a hill yet that it won't climb. A friend that lives out of town has a 8% grade driveway and I can climb up the 1/4 mile long drive better and faster than his 1 ton Chevy with Cooper Snow tires.

  • @1134EMP
    @1134EMP 10 місяців тому +2

    I have Toyo AT3’s on a CRD liberty, and they leave a lot to be desired. The Pirelli Zero all seasons my Durango Tow and Go are perform better. BTW thanks TFL for the videos on the Tow and Go, I would have never known it existed or bought one.

  • @Treetopflyer777
    @Treetopflyer777 10 місяців тому +1

    Just sold my KO2s and put a set of Mickey Thompson baja boss ATs on. Strange I noticed the siping only goes about 1/3-1/2 of the way down. So essentially when the tire is less than 60% life there will be zero siping. Wth??
    And the Mickey Thompsons aren’t any better than the KO2s in snow.
    Other than looking great they were a big mistake

  • @olivier.st-amand
    @olivier.st-amand 10 місяців тому

    Can't wait for the real winter tires test!

  • @jonaramaa
    @jonaramaa 9 місяців тому +1

    Love the snow videos!

  • @petronela910
    @petronela910 9 місяців тому

    Love to see a comparison with the cooper at3 4s you reviewed a while back

  • @J.Young808
    @J.Young808 10 місяців тому

    I have those tires on my 2005 Subaru Outback XT manual that I lifted 1-1.25”. Don’t need the 3peak snowflake rating in Honolulu

  • @MrCrazedTV
    @MrCrazedTV 9 місяців тому

    I had these tires on a tuscon that i took mudding and offoading all the time. That poor hyundai put in WORK beyond what any of you could imagine lmao and thoae tires carried it through everything.

  • @islandmerchandise3017
    @islandmerchandise3017 10 місяців тому +4

    Michelin cross climate 2 vs Michelin xice snow

    • @markhagopian3257
      @markhagopian3257 10 місяців тому

      Been running mich cc2 for the last year on my Grand Cherokee.
      They are Awsome. Run all year.

    • @ragweedmakesmesneeze
      @ragweedmakesmesneeze 10 місяців тому +1

      Check out Tyre Reviews...he did this! (Plus two other Michelin "all season" tires.)

  • @fredharvey2720
    @fredharvey2720 10 місяців тому

    Vredestein Wintrac Pro on my Subaru. TANK.

  • @tayowaugh2546
    @tayowaugh2546 9 місяців тому

    Thanks Guys love your videos and channel. I'm looking a buying a used Range Rover Sport with 35,000 miles as a second vehicle for myself, my primary is a 2023 VW Golf R. I'm super interested in the long term reviews, and things to be congnizent when lookin gfor a used RR Sport. Y'all Da best! Go BEARS!!!

  • @andylukasewicz3442
    @andylukasewicz3442 10 місяців тому +1

    I have the BFG Trail terrain tires on my 2013 WK2, and they are amazing in snow!

    • @DrOldsmobile91
      @DrOldsmobile91 10 місяців тому

      Yeah I have a set of those on my 13 avalanche and they are very good, seemed to never need the 4wd on lol

  • @mikefoehr235
    @mikefoehr235 10 місяців тому +2

    I like goodyear duratracs in the snow. Great wet traction as well.

    • @lylejones5141
      @lylejones5141 8 місяців тому +1

      They are my go to. Have been running them for years on my Ram 1500, Jeep Wrangler and 5th Gen 4Runner here on the West Coast of Canada. They are all I run

  • @Ww8.3
    @Ww8.3 9 місяців тому

    Got blizzaks on a Tacoma trd off-road. They destroy the bfg ko2’s I had on. There is no comparison

  • @user-gq2vn1xj2r
    @user-gq2vn1xj2r 9 місяців тому

    TFL, home of the subjective test.

  • @ck9973
    @ck9973 10 місяців тому

    Can you test the pilot sport all season 4s. They’re supposed to be really good in the snow for an AS tire.

  • @lplt
    @lplt 9 місяців тому

    can you guys give a comparison between this and the michelin crossclimate you had on the Model Y before?

  • @manimalworks7424
    @manimalworks7424 10 місяців тому

    Please compare with BFGoodrich Trail Terrain and Continental Terrain Contact.

  • @shannonstrode7967
    @shannonstrode7967 10 місяців тому

    What snow tire would you recommend for a jeep cherokee trail hawk?

  • @jedironin380
    @jedironin380 10 місяців тому

    Hey Andre- "Time to make the donuts!" 😆 Drive it like a Russian! 👍

  • @JahyMoonwalker
    @JahyMoonwalker 10 місяців тому +1

    Damn, i hate to admit that i like that Range Rover

    • @Aj1981Mr
      @Aj1981Mr 10 місяців тому

      Certainly goes well.

  • @vancejohnson4395
    @vancejohnson4395 10 місяців тому

    Love the snow videos.

  • @Ericsnowmobiler
    @Ericsnowmobiler 9 місяців тому

    Calling tires “all season” is one of the biggest scams in the automotive world. There are a lot of people that don’t understand by looking at a tire what will make good traction by tread or understand anything about compounds. They rely on the tire classification. They unknowingly endanger themselves, their passengers and others sharing the road with them because they were told the tire they’re purchasing is fine in all conditions. I don’t mean that as an insult to them, they going on what they are told by the industry. There’s very little in the way to help people make an informed decision. But hey, at least it’s a federal mandate that the doors automatically lock

  • @styrkjarsteibjorn1860
    @styrkjarsteibjorn1860 10 місяців тому

    Interesting. I'm from Germany and these tires have been mandatory for at least the last 20 Years. I'm somewhat baffled, that they are a new concept for you.

  • @Queensizemusic
    @Queensizemusic 10 місяців тому

    That looked fun!

  • @2URLex
    @2URLex 10 місяців тому

    The guy from Tyre Reviews, test all tiresto the limit including All Terrains against Snow. Folks should check that channel out for a bigger opinion.

  • @Ukuleleman6483
    @Ukuleleman6483 10 місяців тому

    Loving these Range Rover videos want to see more

  • @1063996
    @1063996 9 місяців тому

    That three peak Mountain symbol already exists for years. In the European alps this symbol is mandatory to be catagorized as winter tyre.

  • @castleXgeek
    @castleXgeek 9 місяців тому

    "acceleration" is defined as a change in velocity.... so turning and stopping are both technically "acceleration"

  • @RichardsWorld
    @RichardsWorld 9 місяців тому

    Two young teenagers having fun in the snow 😀

  • @GettingthruLife
    @GettingthruLife 10 місяців тому

    They paid for the tires but not the review, what? Free 4 x 20 inch tires is about $1,200.00. They definitely paid you unless you are giving them back in a few days.

  • @richardnottelmann58
    @richardnottelmann58 10 місяців тому +72

    So, multi-billion dollar Ford company cannot afford to keep up their own buildings. They need to hold raffles to get the public to pay for their land. I know people are going to be mad about me posting this but come on seriously.

    • @Freedomtooffroad
      @Freedomtooffroad 10 місяців тому +1

      I mean almost all the companies almost had gone bankrupt

    • @skunkworks9-3
      @skunkworks9-3 10 місяців тому +16

      It's more of Ford as a corporation doesn't want to pay to upkeep Henry Ford's land but they'll give a 40-50k bronco (their price) as a donation to the non profit so they can do that. Ford gets a kickback on their taxes for the donation and the non profit (probably ran by an ex Ford executive) gets to run an event that will probably net $300k+. 50k for the Ford's property and the other $250k for the non profits staff pay. 😉🫣

    • @Freedomtooffroad
      @Freedomtooffroad 10 місяців тому +2

      @@skunkworks9-3 okay now that makes alot more sense but I gotta admit that ford bronco raptor is sick

    • @jer280
      @jer280 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@skunkworks9-3to be fair they gave the land to University of Michigan and they did not upkeep it

    • @evictioncarpentry2628
      @evictioncarpentry2628 10 місяців тому

      ​@@FreedomtooffroadFord & tesla are the only ones who didn't go bankrupt and take a bailout.

  • @lonewolf30531
    @lonewolf30531 9 місяців тому

    Range +Rover = Service. Simple math is awesome . 🤓

  • @ardennielsen3761
    @ardennielsen3761 10 місяців тому +1

    did you know that an air conditioner in a car actually reverses flow when its cold outside to help heat the cab of the car without pulling heat away from the cold engine? it is important the AC compressor system is working all year not just when it is hot outside.

  • @funnykenji
    @funnykenji 10 місяців тому

    I cannot emphasize more with people around me how important tires are, especially here in the states where you see frequent snowfalls, all season tires are basically useless unless you are in the southen states, the 3 peak mountain all season (or All weather) tires is a must in the area where you snow, but these tires are not getting the attention needed and there are still many people running the dangerous normal all season tires

  • @buttonsangel3074
    @buttonsangel3074 10 місяців тому

    Glad you pointed out what this snowflake-rated tire does not include, a winter compound. Some people will no doubt buy these thinking they are a "real" (dedicated) winter tire.

  • @-.__.__.-Rad
    @-.__.__.-Rad 10 місяців тому

    That abs was working overtime to cope with inertia coming from this "little SUV". The thing with all season/all weather/3peaks... they all compromise. In my book if you're on snow, get snow tires - you get brakes and steering, not just acceleration... and only once or twice every couple of years they'll help you avoid a big costly problem. And that day will come, unless you're the perfect driver and never make a mistake. That's when they pay for themselves

  • @jacobshort5378
    @jacobshort5378 10 місяців тому +1

    I use to call BS until I actually got my own 3 peak tires and noticed a heck of a differenece.

    • @jmc6000
      @jmc6000 10 місяців тому

      Exactly the review is VERY baised against these tires!

    • @jacobshort5378
      @jacobshort5378 10 місяців тому +1

      @@jmc6000 I'm running the trail terrain currently and they are incredible, I can't speak on the falken as I've never had them but based on a million other reviews they're impressive too.

    • @gs98999
      @gs98999 10 місяців тому

      I don’t think they are biased. They are just saying the 3peak rating is very easy to achieve. And as such you can have 3peak tires that aren’t very good in winter compared to 3peak dedicated snow/winters.

    • @jacobshort5378
      @jacobshort5378 10 місяців тому

      @@gs98999 I can only speak on tires I've ran, which never was dedicated snow tire and my last two sets were 3 peak instead of a boring all season and the difference is large between the two.

    • @gs98999
      @gs98999 10 місяців тому

      @@jacobshort5378 yeah, there can be a big difference across the range. Something like a KO2 is a 3 peak and it’s much better in snow than all seasons that come on trucks, but it’s still nowhere near as good as say Michelin Xice in snow and especially ice

  • @nissanxterra4339
    @nissanxterra4339 10 місяців тому

    hi let's compare Tоuareg 4.2 3.2 petrol in the snow

  • @billp5424
    @billp5424 10 місяців тому

    😊

  • @dfberry
    @dfberry 9 місяців тому

    😁

  • @jamesg9068
    @jamesg9068 8 місяців тому

    Lost me at stability control

  • @kc0isw
    @kc0isw 10 місяців тому

    Can't beat KO2

  • @randallbollinger9625
    @randallbollinger9625 10 місяців тому

    The Michelin Crossclimate 2 are the best 3 peak tires. Better than some dedicated snow tires and nearly as good as the best snow tires

  • @brucelumsden94
    @brucelumsden94 10 місяців тому +1

    A couple of little boys with a rather expensive toy!

  • @Romans_Toupee
    @Romans_Toupee 10 місяців тому

    You can tell Nathan really enjoys doing these paid sponsor ads...

  • @rjbiker66
    @rjbiker66 10 місяців тому

    So you get to the accident faster...lol

  • @56coupedeville
    @56coupedeville 10 місяців тому +1

    I just have to say, How stupid are people who dont use Winter tires in the winter time. And you that live in Alaska or Canada, you should try tires that are ment for Norway, Sweden or Finland.

    • @jmc6000
      @jmc6000 10 місяців тому

      Wow how stupid this comment is

  • @LukeEdward
    @LukeEdward 10 місяців тому

    I know it’s a privilege to work in the TFL family, but really? You’re making the guys work the weekend for a twelve minute Slidey-slidey video in an office park?

  • @jmc6000
    @jmc6000 10 місяців тому

    I'm sorry Roman but a snow tire on a 500plus horsepower SUV would have the EXACT same result! Your prejudice against these type of tires is showing hard.

    • @JahyMoonwalker
      @JahyMoonwalker 10 місяців тому +1

      The point is tires that are good all around in different weather. Obviously dedicated snow tires are better in winter conditions.

    • @Redhawk24
      @Redhawk24 10 місяців тому

      Umm no

  • @Ram14250
    @Ram14250 10 місяців тому

    Not great IMO. I have 3 Peak Blizzaks... no slipping. If you're going to get Winter tires... these aren't it.

  • @ivankorth4458
    @ivankorth4458 10 місяців тому +7

    Love my cross climate 2 all year snow tires . 60k warranty

  • @danielfrancis4258
    @danielfrancis4258 10 місяців тому +9

    Bonjour André and Roman. Here in the province of Québec, all passenger vehicules registered in our province must have winter tires on from december 1st. to march 15th. It's been this way since 2008. Makes a lot of sense and it's much safer for everyone on the road. I have Nokian Nordman 9 on my 2023 Chevy Bolt. Greetings from Montréal, Québec. 🖖

    • @craigquann
      @craigquann 10 місяців тому +1

      Yup. One of the few laws I agree with from Quebec. Lol 3 peak mountain snowflake tires count.

  • @lise1255
    @lise1255 10 місяців тому +7

    The Falken tires shown here didn't pass as acceptable in any Swedish tire tests. This type of tire are standard winter tires in continental Europe, but useless in Sweden, Norway and Finland, where a majority uses studded tires during winter or uses special Nordic winter tires, that are superior in lower temperatures.
    Anyone driving in snow or ice should use studded tires. The best nordic winter tires in test 2023 is Continental Vikingcontact 7, and the best studded tire is
    Michelin X-ice North 4. P.s winter tires are required by law between 1.dec. and 1.april in Sweden, Norway and Finland.

    • @Azureecosse
      @Azureecosse 10 місяців тому +1

      in southern Sweden we get by on standard Winter tires no need for studs we even use all season Tires with the three peak symbol eg Continental all season contact or Michelin cross climates very few use studded tires in the North I know this because I grew up in Åre. I personally use all seasons from 1st December never had any issues even when we do get deep snow which is rare.

    • @lise1255
      @lise1255 10 місяців тому

      @@Azureecosse hejsan. Jag bor själv i Blekinge. Alla mina grannar köra konsekvent på dubbdäck. Jag själv har altid bara kört på vanliga vinterdäck, men har i år köpt "nordiske " vinterdäck. Jag tror enda skillnaden är temperatur känsligheten. Det är överraskande att du säger dubbdäck inte är så nyttjad i norra Sverige. Jag har varit mycket i norra Sverige, men aldrig på vinteren. Jag gissar det är för att man inte nyttja salt på vägarna däruppe, men jag tänker fortfarande att om dubbdäck borde nyttjas någonstans borde det vara på all isen i norr!?.
      Varför alla mina grannar köra på dubbdäck i Blekinge, kan bero på att det alla är gamla bönder. Men när jag tittar på begagnade bilar har flertalet fortfarande dubbdäck medföljande som vinterdäck, så det kan inte vara så ovanligt ändå. Jag fick även dubbdäck medföljande den senaste bil jag har köpt och den har aldrig lämnat Stockholm. 😀

    • @J.Young808
      @J.Young808 10 місяців тому +2

      I spent 20 years in Oregon and Washington state for college and then my career. I lived in Corvallis Oregon for 5, Portland Oregon for 10 years and then Yakima Washington for 5. We got a lot of ice in Oregon so many people would choose studded tires for the ice days and give up wet traction. All the libtards in Portland and Seattle figured the damage from metal studs was costing too much so they went to plastic and then from what I heard from friends they outlawed all studs and went to stud less winter tires.
      I don’t have much need for winter tires here in Honolulu Hawai’i. I have heard that several European countries require dedicated snow tires in the winter (had Danish & Swedish friends on the Uni’s volleyball team tell me that).

    • @lise1255
      @lise1255 10 місяців тому

      @@J.Young808 I wouldn't mind being in Honululu right now. I am danish but live in southern Sweden and it is cooold at the moment. Studded tires are not legal in Denmark and there's no law requirement for winter tires there unlike Sweden, Norway and Finland. But most people do use wintertires even if it's not required by law.
      I have always just had a set of summer tires and a set of winter tires, but I have also invested in a third set of studded wintertires, because even though most highways and cities are effectively cleared and salted, there are periods now and again with alot of ice and worst of all : black ice, and that's when I want studded tires.
      On youtube there's alot of videos with Americans skating into each other with their cars as though they drove on ice with slick tires. It's moments like that, I asked myself why ! They obviously live in a cold state, so why aren't they prepared. It's entertaining and tragically stupid at the same time.

  • @jimwhall6609
    @jimwhall6609 10 місяців тому +4

    Test the Nokian WR G4 🙂

  • @ragweedmakesmesneeze
    @ragweedmakesmesneeze 10 місяців тому +6

    While it's not part of the official rules for earning a 3 peak mountain snowflake, I do believe that most of these "all weather" tires do in fact have the softer rubber compound that allows better grip during colder months. As soft as a dedicated winter tire? No, obviously not. But softer than a traditional "all season?" Yes. What's interesting to me about an All Terrain tire bearing the 3PMS designation is that an off road tire's design with widely spaced lugs and tread patterns meant for clearing mud, is directly at odds with how a traditional snow tire works. Namely a snow tire wants snow to collect between the treads because, as I learned from a Bridgestone tire engineer and my years of making snowmen, snow sticks to snow, increasing grip!

    • @craigquann
      @craigquann 10 місяців тому +1

      They do, it's required.

  • @escheidl
    @escheidl 10 місяців тому +6

    I would love to see a head to head test for the Michelin CrossClimate2's against the Bridgestone WeatherPeak's. I have the CrossClimate2's on my 18' Camry Hybrid and they are outstanding tires. The best tires I've ever owned by far. But they killed the gas mileage on my hybrid, so I would like to see how the WeatherPeaks compare for when they finally wear out. (53k, 7/10th's tread left!) For some reason, nobody has done a test with these two tires together in it. You can be the first! 😃 Hope you bite! 😁

    • @corei6439
      @corei6439 10 місяців тому +2

      I second this, the CC2 tires are phenomenal in the snow. I have them on my '11 Impreza and love them. The big difference between the Falken tires features in this video and CC2 tires is that CC2 specializes in snow driving and the Falkens specialize in offroad driving. CC2's have a different compound that works well in the warm and cold. Engineering Explained has a great video on them explaining how it all works.

    • @tpolerex7282
      @tpolerex7282 10 місяців тому +2

      @@corei6439did you notice any significant decrease in gas mileage with the CC2’s as the above poster did? Considering them with my ‘24 Impreza RS when the original Yokohamas start wearing out. Thanks

    • @corei6439
      @corei6439 10 місяців тому +3

      @@tpolerex7282 Honestly there wasn't a huge difference when talking about an Impreza. Maybe like 1or 2 mpg. The above poster mentioned the car being a hybrid. Hybrids often times put very fuel efficient tires in order to maximize numbers. Where as Imprezas were never all that fuel efficient to begin with so it has little effect.

    • @tritchie6272
      @tritchie6272 9 місяців тому

      My suspicion is who they test will largely depend on who donates tires for the test. That would be alot cheaper than buying them. Although Roman may surprise me and buy one set if he think the video's will pay enough.

  • @elliottwalsh94
    @elliottwalsh94 9 місяців тому +3

    Roman, please let Andre finish what he’s saying before cutting him off or going “Right right right”. You may know what he’s explaining but us listening from home may not. 10:48 talking about traction control for example

  • @TheNotimprezed
    @TheNotimprezed 10 місяців тому +11

    All I can say is do your research. There can be very large gaps in performance depending on the tire. The best winter tires perform nearly as well as a good studded tire and better than a cheap studded tire. The 3pms going on all season and all terrains makes me view them as entry level snow traction, but they wont nearly match a Bridgestone, Michelin, Nokian dedicated winter tire.

    • @RedBentley
      @RedBentley 10 місяців тому

      Yep! Love my Yokohama Geolander A/Ts but snow tires are still going to brake better on ice.

  • @GranDaddo
    @GranDaddo 10 місяців тому +4

    When I was growing up in 80s, snow in our part would fall from November to March and often it would be up to 15 inches, so many prefered very cheap "snow" tires because even cheap tires could provide excellent grip over high snow. In past decade, we have snow mainly from Feb - April, in many cases it lasts few days and you have more issues with slush, ice, black ice, even water, so tires like Continental T870, or Michelin Alpine 6 have more value even though they are not that great when there is "deep" snow.

    • @islandmerchandise3017
      @islandmerchandise3017 10 місяців тому

      How about find an old 80s blocky winter tire vs modern tire with soft tire compound?

    • @TheRealCatof
      @TheRealCatof 10 місяців тому

      Yay global warming!

  • @KPHVAC
    @KPHVAC 10 місяців тому +3

    I'm super impressed with my Michelin Crossclimate 2 tires on my Honda Accord. They are great year round tires that can handle some snow! Last winter in 8" of snow my Ford Eacape FWD work car couldn't get out of my driveway the Honda drove around without any trouble.

    • @stronghold07ptx85
      @stronghold07ptx85 10 місяців тому +2

      The cross climate 2s perform mid pack across dedicated winter tires. It’s crazy how well they perform in snow. Wet handling isn’t the best which is all I really get in Michigan winters now. Hankook kinergy are better value and a bit more evenly balanced.

    • @KPHVAC
      @KPHVAC 10 місяців тому +3

      @@stronghold07ptx85 I'm north of Seattle Washington and in the last year the Crossclimate 2's have been great in the rain. Way better than the Continental tires I had before.