The worst part of being a jehovah's witness: the entire experience, the beatings for not sitting still, the boredom, and almost dying because of the blood issue. The best thing about being a jehovah's witness: leaving the organization a d not looking back
My daughter is in kindergarten and just got to do valentines for all her class mates. She got to do the Christmas party and she salutes the flag daily. I get to relive my childhood through her and take her to all the birthday parties and go way overboard for her birthday. It’s amazing!
The flag thing is kinda overrated, kinda weird that you have to "pledge allegiance" kinda reminds me of JW doctrine. The rest I really wanna experience
I was studying with a lady in my early twenties. I first loved it, learning about something I knew nothing about (Both my parents are athiest). What pulled me out was two things: One the fact they don't believe in Evolution. Two I was in love with my now husband at the time and felt awful about myself. Knowing he never become a JW and that meant I couldn't be with him. Oh and being told if my husband decided to buy a car when we couldn't afford it, I had to stand by him but if I did it, he wouldn't have to. I guess I was just tooo worldly to fall for the honey trap. Great video, keep it up!
I am currently studying with my teacher and many times i need to switch off my brain so that i dont start doing counter question using my rationality, there are many things which can be easily refuted but my teacher will have hard time if i start questioning him and i dont want he should feel hurt.
@Darth Magog been married for 12 years. I think i made the right choice. Keep doing what you're doing to help people see the pain this organization can cause.
@Muzammil Alam and that should tell you a lot. If you can't use your brain, is it really right? Look up shunning and what that is. That is something i didn't learn about until i was fully out.
Whenever you talk about how you would go door to door when you were JW I picture you going around knocking on doors in full Darth regalia, and it's honestly pretty epic. I'd probably actually give it a listen if that happened.
Yeah, I'd at least hear out anybody in a fursuit or a cosplay, honestly. Seconding m b's "Don't get any ideas, JWs (or Mormons, or Scientologists...)!"
The good things about a cult only tended to torment me more. I almost wish it was nothing but negatives. I remember the despair, missing the good things but knowing they could never come without the bad.
It breaks my heart hearing a lot of all this and what you went thru as a child. You missed out on so much as a kid that made you a pariah amongst your peers. I'm so glad you overcame and became the delightful dark lord that you are today..
Good content Darth, I had forgotten about some of these. At least going out in service was a cheap way to spend a weekend 😆 At my parents 25th anniversary they had a small party with square dancing, a sister turned my brother in to the elders because she saw him take a pill 💊 It was a tic tac 😆😆
Great video! What is really disturbing is that the gb wants you to change your personality instead of just changing your bad habits and to do good and love others. Your personality is started as a little child. So my heart breaks for the little children in this cult. 💔 Thank you... your video's are very helpful to everyone who watches them. 🍃✝️🍃⚘️
@@DarthMagog I've never been a jw, and I get upset at their rules and false teachings... I can only imagine what it's like for you and all exjw channels that do this for all of us. You have my love and respect for what you're doing. 🍃🩷🍃
I know this is a ridiculous oversimplification, but the good list really does sound like “when it sucked less, and when I was able to re-purpose stuff for my escape”
Thanks for this video. My sister has been one of Jehova's Witnesses for a while. I've been researching the faith and found your perspective useful. I didn't know about the gender disparity among their members. This is quite tragic for women in the org, especially considering it from an economical perspective since getting a low-skill job that pays well is much harder for them and they have a reduced chance to get married. My sister is a seamstress who has been trying to start her own business but the time she has to give to her religious life makes it difficult for her to succeed. She's had to move in with me for the time being and it has been a miserable experience given their views on association with "worldly" people.
Oh Marigi, I'm sorry about that. I can see how the economic pressure is coming down on both of you. I still applaud your sister for trying to start her business. I won't say the Kingdom Hall is a great place to foster that sort of ambition, but it's good to see she still has that strength and ambition. Hopefully she'll understand that the bad, sorry to say, does outweigh the good. Not to say she can't keep the good lessons, but she certainly has to leave all that bad behind. I hope you both see success and that your relationship can mend.
as an ex fundie christian, its scary how similar to cults (or are cults) that those religions pose. i literally know a guy who believes every conspiricy theory in the book and my step sister dates him. and they refuse to believe other wise, or they will be shamed for posing a "threat" to the religion. thats what pulled me away from the faith. the crazy thing was, my church wasn't even openly homophobic or fundie till one of their members had "turned" into a gay liberal (aka, me)
Servants: "I'm so tired. I can't keep volunteering for terrible pay." Elder: "I wouldn't worry; this world's ending anyways." Servants: "You've been saying that for 200 years; I’m starting to doubt you even know what your schedule is." Elder: "That's nonsense! Now, if you'll excuse me, I have an appointment at 2:00. Servants: "It's 2:35." Elder: "Central time!"
I was so excited when I saw a new video from you, you rock dude! I loved you covering those Caleb and Sofia videos, probably even if you did them alone I grew up Pentecostal so I get where you're coming from. People would roll on the floor and speak in tongues when they "felt the holy spirit" when they should of been filled with haldol. I felt isolated and uncomfortable constantly surrounded by people who were just so fake happy all the time. It made me develop into a loner who gets really uncomfortable when people touch me because they would constantly pull me into awkward hugs that would turn into prayer sessions. Everything was capable of hosting demons according to them including inanimate objects and the devil was the reason for any particular problem at any given time My sister ended up becoming a Pentecostal pastor. Shes like a stranger to me, she never approved of my type of partner and tries to pray over me the few times I do actually see her. I got to the point that I take on extra shifts at work so I dont have to interact with her when shes in town
I was at the dojo back in October and we were talking about Halloween. We asked one child (he's about 5) what he was doing. "We don't celebrate Halloween--we're christians." Oh so horrible. Yet another family that's a victim of that horrible "Why Christians Shouldn't Celebrate Halloween" book.
@@magellanthecat because why are they putting this idea to a child?why are they teaching stuff that are not realistic? That's not right. In reality, any holiday is ok to celebrate. Kids like that, including that 5 year old you're telling us. I'm sure the kid likes to celebrate with you, but he might be afraid of getting cought by the parents who told him not to, because of a religious belief that's not even a good reason. they're actually not honest. I have a JW friend who secretly celebrates holidays and watch and listen to her favorite artist for many years without the family knowing because shee knows that shee is a wittness which shee is told not to do these things. Shee is doing this to avoid getting cought doing what shee likes. We know children and yung people are good at discovering if things are real or not
@@magellanthecat my friend almost got a mental health problem because of a religion. I told her to just do what shee likes for her self. My advice to everyone, biblical does'nt always mean good. Some teachings are positive, some are negative. Be careful with those. It should not affect a person
That's the worst part about controlling religion, it's not all bad. If it was, they wouldn't have as many followers, and would be yet another doomsday cult lost to history. It's similar to being in an abusive relationship in that way
Good choices Darth! Wow, I can't believe anyone enjoyed the field ministry. The Theo School definitely had benefits around public speaking. HUGE help later in life, even if it was just a selfish attempt to get you to 'witness' for them. I'm still very bitter about not attending college. The exhaustion: spot on.
Hey, I remember goodie nights! One of the things I do remember rather positively. I miss going to this one sister's house where she always made something every single Tuesday book study. She was such a good baker. It's a shame there isn't more community little things like that without the religion part.
while i was never a JW, i can say my fav thing to come out of the organization is... your channel!! i've genuinely been looking forward to every one of your videos (hence why i am sometimes late watching them, i want to properly enjoy them) so glad the algorithm recommended you hehe
Another wonderful episode, Lord Magog! The book you showed i think would be wonderful to hear you read from your unique perspective and interjections! Just the thought of you turning a page and saying "Guess who! It's ya boi, white Jesus!" makes me smile
I remember having a dream about being in a cult not a Jw type cult but it was so terrifying it’s probably the only time I ever was extremely terrified really scary
@@DarthMagog yeah thank goodness it was I explored a lot of morbid content with some things related to cults and having that feeling but as if I was actually in it terrified me so much
So happy I found this channel. Your videos are entertaining and I respect that you can look back on your experience with nuance. I'm still pimo, so I have nothing but bitterness towards the JW experience 😅 But I agree that, when I believed, knowing you had a community of people that would fein interest in you and be friendly and atleast somewhat sociable was nice
As much as the religion abused me it protected if very few ways for instance, from drug abuse as it's common in my area. However one thing i hated was the constant state of celibacy the elders forced me into because i quote "The end is coming soon." Even though they always said how much they love their marriage and couldn't imagine their life without their partner, another thing that also fueled the sexual repression regarding that was that love was knowledge Not a feeling... That came straight from a for teens propaganda video. What kind of screwed up logic is that, all this put a great pain and burden on me. Another thing it protected me from was racism, which was another issue in my area. However i never experienced the community aspect you mentioned, it always felt fake And artificial. It was creepy to me if anything. Now i can list hates and disgusting practices for hours but since that's all they pros i can list I'll stop here.
I never was a JW but my dad, aunt and grandmother were. Later my dad left the religion and my aunt was thrown out for cheating (long story but she didn't actually cheat, she and her husband just separated and she found another man). But they never preached to me, I never felt like either of them pushed me to be one of them, I never heard about my dad or aunt going door to door to preach.
The best part for me was in the late 60s and 70s we sold the literature. We asked for a contribution of $.10 for each magazine watch Tyrone awake and $.25 for a book. I think it was a dollar for a Bible. I used to go out when I needed gas in my car. I would sell the magazines for $.50 apiece. I get a dollar for that I would sell the books for a buck, one dollar and I was selling Bibles for five dollars every time I went out in the field service I would clean up gasoline was $.48 a gallon. I had a VW van so I could go surfing all the time so after I will go and field service, I'd make about 56 bucks in about an hour hour and a half then I'd say oh I have a Bible study and I would leave go fill up my truck go fill up my stomach at McDonald's and still have like a dollar and a half left over it was awesome then I go surfing.
I have heard JWs are very organized and self-starters due to having to schedule everything around meetings, field service and volunteer hours at the hall.
Every pro has its con as you know, Lord Magog. I think I can say for myself that while there were good things about being in the religion, I had to really think about how it affected me in the long run. I remember the weekly meetings and book studies. Sometimes we had to get by without goodies, but when we have the gatherings I think it made up for a lot of lost time. I was never a fan of the circuit assemblies and the district conventions. My only solace was at the hotel room we would stay at my mom would give me a little box of Legos, a baggie of Goldfish crackers, and a juice box so as I can be entertained afterwards. I never really did much in the theocratic ministry School, though I did do talks. But my burnout was something that not a lot of people were noticing. I never baptized, but I admit that I was tempted to keep in the faith because of my family. I could go on but I wouldn't want to spoil my appetite. May the force be with you.
I've got no problem with religion in general, there's a sense of community christians, muslims, buddhists etc can get out of making sense of spiritual matters or connecting with their own cultural roots, even just reinforcing the idea being nice to people isn't just a calculated move in society. It's just some and JW take the rituals and traditions to an unhealthy extent where it gets uncomfortably close to cults that legit take peoples money and dump them, isolate members so they feel trapped/lost without it, or play whatabout games when another religion isn't being progressive enough so it's okay when they reject modern ideas.
I had a 4th grade teacher who was a JW and she would only allow kids to have birthdays 1 day at the end of the month with parents chaperoning, she would then leave the classroom
6:57 I know the real presence is more of Catholic thing then a Christian thing overall, but you don't even get to eat it at all? Then why have it as part of your gatherings in the first place? I don't get this
I agree with all your “bests” but for me these were somewhat superficial. Even the bests feel empty, y’know. Come puberty i began understanding I was not straight but before I even knew that about myself I already understood being gay was not okay. (I was born into a jw family) I always felt I was hiding something and couldn’t be me - when i became more aware of this I started to feel the distance between me and all my social connections within the congregation. Not sure if I’m wording it right but that inability to be authentic (which was always there I think, looking in hindsight) hit harder once I became aware of it. So most of my social interactions, gatherings, events, broadcast viewing parties, etc. within the congregation felt empty and lacking. I felt I had to keep a wall up for fear of someone figuring out my secret. - TMS tho. When college came around after I left I was the bomb. Time management, organizing my schedule and public speaking were a piece of cake 🤓
gd day Darth Magog 🙂 I'm viewing this video on my big screen as I do and I have a question please , I think I'm remembering that my married jw family members celebrating an anniversary however I'm not able to remember if it's the wedding anniversary or some other . thank you
Oh yeah, I always forget about Wedding Anniversaries. But yes, those are considered appropriate because Marriage is from Jehovah. So Wedding Anniversaries may be celebrated in the Watchtower Society.
@@DarthMagog where do the ceremonies take place , I'm trying to remember , certainly not in the kingdom hall or am I mistaken . Thank you for answering my question I really don't want to think about it much anymore however for the sake of seeing me free I'm appreciating that you speak truth as well I look to Wally's content . TY 🙂
@@DarthMagog I have a few more questions on on this video , my I please . I'm only trying to understand what it was that I got myself into for some years as a non jw family member . As you are able please . This is a great place and I'velearned much so far , only so many unanswered questions that I was never permitted to ask , however respectfully I attempted . Thank you
My #1 worst is being a second class citizen just because of my genitals. Just because I'm a woman, i can't do much as carry a microphone. Just sit, remain silent as some old man suggests my brain is "10% smaller" while everyone measures my skirt when i sit down. Only good thing... Connections. There was a sign maker, exterminator, painter, carpenter... You knew everyone with a skill that you could get a discount for. Edit- if there was a goody night, id hear about it from others who were invited and i wasn't. I was in good standing, baptized, but i wasn't cool enough for them and often was excluded. That makes goody night ten times worse.
I’ll say I did enjoy going out in service up until I was like 12 but I’ll stay it I did love giving talks in the B school(I gave some talks in the mane hall)but most where in the b school/back room
I wish i could still talk with the friends I made in there. One of them, Misael, was the most intelligent individual I've ever met in person. I hope he's found his way out as well.
@@Ratchetzillastudios My parents and other JW's they knew tended not to like or be overly critical of any representation of events from the bible that weren't made by witnesses or aligned with their JW beliefs. They might still let us watch some but others they heavily disagreed with. For example, the one you mentioned "Prince of Egypt" they let me watch it but mainly to criticize/nitpick it. But something like "Passion of the Christ" was banned outright.
Well I guess we all get inspired by many different kinds of Fictional Characters mine of mine one is Yuuki Konno of Sword art online season 2 who's courage inspired me to always stay strong during hard times master Magog. ♥️
There are some honestly, earnestly well meaning individuals, who just got caught up in it, and they really try to love other people in the best way they can. For me, it's always nice to be around people like that no matter what organization they might be a part of. Worst part: Wearing a suit all the time! C'mon man is there anything that can make a person feel more like a tool?
Yeah I feel that. I think the way they indoctrinate people, especially children, is part of the challenge. Just knowing that you didn't have much of a chance from the start
I would love for it’s Church or religion status to be taken…and just be called a Cult Also what’s the song u used in introduced the best thing about the JW cult?
@@DarthMagog I found the song, n it’s easy to make it into a Christian song…but the song more reminds of Hillsong (a branching group that does over top songs that mostly have no meaning)
As a women I think that part if it is that they instill a deep fear of worldly men, for example some extended family members texted me the story of Dinah when they learned I wanted to stop attending meetings (Dinah makes worldly friends and then gets r*ped by one of them, she is seen as partially responsible because she left the protection of her family and therefore Jehovah). Women also marry young and might get stuck in a relationship with a man that’s deeply devoted to the religion making it more hard to leave, same can happen with men, but they have more freedom imo because wife’s have to submit to them. They’re family’s might be less likely to support higher education or independence for woman. Also single mothers are going to be more likely to be converted and seek out community. Other than that I honestly don’t know lol those are just some theories.
I've never been a Jehovah's witness, & I realize the cult has alot of very evil problems (especially letting members die from refusing blood transfusions), However, I must say, I like the no eternal torture in hell teaching. I agree with Jehovah's witnesses that eternal torture is an unjustly cruel punishment method. I prefer the annihilationist concept (although the religion is still horrible but I agree eternal torture is an evil concept for a punishment method)
I was raised Baptist in the south, so not exJW. But it's interesting to hear there are positives of the JW culture. Only had one encounter with JWs, an old woman knocked on my family's door I was 16 or 17 at the time and home alone. The woman had a teen girl with her about my age so I let them in to sit at the kitchen table to give their speal. The girl my age was attractive i admit was my motive for this. I gave them each a bottle of water and saw them off.
I am a baptized catholic who cuz of the experience with the JWs became a satanist, then what am I in Star Wars? Am I a different kind of force user who met the jedi and became a sith?
I ended the Bible study specifically because of their stance against education and the evolution denial . Evolution has been used in medical research and most medical breakthroughs for the past 120 years are DIRECTLY based on it.
It’s true not, all was bad in fact it was a life saver for me as a single mum and my 4 kids the family I never had kept us from drugs n alcohol. I loved doing tasks and learnt a lot. I still have 3 in and finding that balance of fading but leaving seeds of actual truth with my kids.
(Sorry, I’m a never JW so this might be a stupid question) but if your parents were inactive, why did you have to keep going to all the church functions etc? Was it that your other family members were active members and kinda forced those expectations on you?
Not a stupid question first off. Great question. Friend of the family was our presiding overseer and took an interest in us. Our Aunts and Uncles were active too and our parents still believed in it, just couldn't be fussed to attend. If that makes sense.
@@DarthMagog that makes total sense! Thank you so much for answering! I’m glad I stumbled upon your channel it’s very educational and I enjoy learning about this religion I’ve only ever been somewhat slightly exposed to
I think it's a logical conclusion that not all of the religion could be bad. If there was nothing attractive about being a JW, then they wouldn't be able to attract new converts. Love and Peace.
Definetly a layered thing for sure. The Watchtower likes to use a combination of both Fear and Love. And it's, well surprisingly affective. I think it's hit it's apex in how effective it can be on outsiders, but you know
@@DarthMagog Thanks for replying to my comment so soon! I remember when the JW's used to come to my door - I used to invite them in to sit down, as I genuinely enjoyed talking to them. I think they must have put me on some kind of list of interested people because they actually started to sent me messages on my phone scheduling times to visit me and my wife. I was cautious about getting too close to them though as, though I knew basically nothing about their faith, I remembered many years ago befriending a young lady who was very upset because she had left the JW's and for some reason wasn't allowed to talk to her mother any more. They abruptly stopped visiting me when I told them, in a friendly way, that I wasn't interested in coming to any of their community meetings. Keep up the good work Lord Magog 🙂
One good thing: some very wise advices. For example: Romans 12:17-18: Return evil for evil to no one.i Take into consideration what is fine from the viewpoint of all men. 18 If possible, as far as it depends on you, be peaceable with all men.; don't think about work outside your work and have good work - life balance, 1. Timothy 5:8 Certainly if anyone does not provide for those who are his own, and especially for those who are members of his household, he has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith. All those wisdoms (and not limited to those) are useful also in the "worldly" world of non JW.
*Hands out mixed fruit cobbler cups and pretzel caramel cup cookies to the Dark Side Goodie Night~* Lol... New Personality, or No Personality? XD Funny thing about the no birthdays/no holidays n all that... Is that parents still went about celebrating their anniversary. Hypocritical and unfair much? Like how is y'all "worshipping" each other different than letting your kids feel special for a day? Yeah I don't celebrate stuff like Easter and most other stuff besides Valentines/Halloween/Christmas a lil for my kid, but I definitely make sure to try to make my kid's birthday special somehow every year at least and tell her I love her every single day, usually waking up or at least before school, bc the last time I heard it from my parents was when I was rly little. And pffft yeah I learned to deal with rejection a lil TOO well if anything lmao... Yeah unfortunately the flipside of that is all the girls that felt worthless and powerless in the wake of the boy's special status and privileges... At first I was worried about the snitching/gossiping but then I realized it never ended and they were all hypocrites anyways so then I stopped giving a crap and went to go watch anime. XD Yeah vocational school was the only thing my parents would help me with after HS. I picked to go to a massage school bc I was still basically a kid and naive af and I thought that I'd be "helping peopwle fweel better!" and then I realized how many creeps and perverts kept coming in trying to get nasty illegal crap out of me and it turned out bagging groceries was better after all. 9_9;; Although... WTH lmao drugs and sex are one thing but rock n roll, really guys, is this the 50's...? XD Psh, yeah giving my money and time to the watchtower when I could be spending both on anime? That'd be a No-Brainer even if my family didn't think I was "mentally diseased". XP
Ours had one next to the door, but that was through another set of doors. No kids staring out the window wishing they were outside, Armageddon was a comin
@@DarthMagog I do have Cheap days from my Diet to keep my weight off& lower my blood sugar back down out of my pre Diabetic level & keep it there so I live again master Magog & Kai. 🤤😋♥️❤️🍰🧁
Oh that SLAVE scripture, should’ve noticed this God still wanted his chosen people after saving them from slavery in Egypt to be slaves in the wilderness😅and it’s still continuing😢I wonder what waits in paradise as a slave again.
@@DarthMagog hmmm 🤔. I disagree. In the end sidious fooled alot of people but his empire eventually failed after 157 year's. Watchtower is close in years . Apostates are the rebels. The governing body did dupe alot of people you and I included. It's all catching up to them now . The ugliness from the 10 has emerged . They are the dark lord . What other cult gets people to work for free? Do it for Jehovah. ( Jedi mind trick)
@@rickybobby9886 lots of good stuff for sure. But Palpatine had a lot going for him too. 1. He was a competent speaker. 2. He ruled the Galaxy instead of about 8 million humans and their windowless buildings 3. Could hold his own in a fight 4. Way better memes. Decapope can't hold a candle to our boy Papa Palps 🤣 I do still agree that they're EVIL af though, so we're still on the same team there for sure.
The worst part of being a jehovah's witness: the entire experience, the beatings for not sitting still, the boredom, and almost dying because of the blood issue. The best thing about being a jehovah's witness: leaving the organization a d not looking back
I can certainly respect that.
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My daughter is in kindergarten and just got to do valentines for all her class mates. She got to do the Christmas party and she salutes the flag daily. I get to relive my childhood through her and take her to all the birthday parties and go way overboard for her birthday. It’s amazing!
A full experience childhood, molto bene!
The flag thing is kinda overrated, kinda weird that you have to "pledge allegiance" kinda reminds me of JW doctrine. The rest I really wanna experience
I was studying with a lady in my early twenties. I first loved it, learning about something I knew nothing about (Both my parents are athiest). What pulled me out was two things:
One the fact they don't believe in Evolution.
Two I was in love with my now husband at the time and felt awful about myself. Knowing he never become a JW and that meant I couldn't be with him.
Oh and being told if my husband decided to buy a car when we couldn't afford it, I had to stand by him but if I did it, he wouldn't have to. I guess I was just tooo worldly to fall for the honey trap.
Great video, keep it up!
Lol nice and safe. Sticking with a healthy, happy relationship sounds a lot better than making God happy by making yourself miserable.
I am currently studying with my teacher and many times i need to switch off my brain so that i dont start doing counter question using my rationality, there are many things which can be easily refuted but my teacher will have hard time if i start questioning him and i dont want he should feel hurt.
Basically if i ever decided to join this organization which my teacher keep trying to say me then i need to leave my brain outside my body lol
@Darth Magog been married for 12 years. I think i made the right choice. Keep doing what you're doing to help people see the pain this organization can cause.
@Muzammil Alam and that should tell you a lot. If you can't use your brain, is it really right? Look up shunning and what that is. That is something i didn't learn about until i was fully out.
Whenever you talk about how you would go door to door when you were JW I picture you going around knocking on doors in full Darth regalia, and it's honestly pretty epic. I'd probably actually give it a listen if that happened.
"Do you have time to talk about our supreme leader, Palpatine?"
I’d probably join…don’t get any ideas JW!
Yeah, I'd at least hear out anybody in a fursuit or a cosplay, honestly. Seconding m b's "Don't get any ideas, JWs (or Mormons, or Scientologists...)!"
Lol I should do door to door anti-Witnessing in my armor.
@@DarthMagoglol yeah that could be a fun video I would totally watch it
The good things about a cult only tended to torment me more. I almost wish it was nothing but negatives. I remember the despair, missing the good things but knowing they could never come without the bad.
It breaks my heart hearing a lot of all this and what you went thru as a child. You missed out on so much as a kid that made you a pariah amongst your peers. I'm so glad you overcame and became the delightful dark lord that you are today..
They steal childhood
Seconded!
Good content Darth, I had forgotten about some of these. At least going out in service was a cheap way to spend a weekend 😆 At my parents 25th anniversary they had a small party with square dancing, a sister turned my brother in to the elders because she saw him take a pill 💊 It was a tic tac 😆😆
Omg can you imagine? Getting counseled for a tic-tac? 🤣
Great video! What is really disturbing is that the gb wants you to change your personality instead of just changing your bad habits and to do good and love others. Your personality is started as a little child. So my heart breaks for the little children in this cult. 💔
Thank you... your video's are very helpful to everyone who watches them.
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Thank you Terri 💙. It's hard to watch and read the Watchtower content, but it's worth it if it helps people.
@@DarthMagog I've never been a jw, and I get upset at their rules and false teachings... I can only imagine what it's like for you and all exjw channels that do this for all of us. You have my love and respect for what you're doing. 🍃🩷🍃
I know this is a ridiculous oversimplification, but the good list really does sound like “when it sucked less, and when I was able to re-purpose stuff for my escape”
Thanks for this video. My sister has been one of Jehova's Witnesses for a while. I've been researching the faith and found your perspective useful. I didn't know about the gender disparity among their members. This is quite tragic for women in the org, especially considering it from an economical perspective since getting a low-skill job that pays well is much harder for them and they have a reduced chance to get married. My sister is a seamstress who has been trying to start her own business but the time she has to give to her religious life makes it difficult for her to succeed. She's had to move in with me for the time being and it has been a miserable experience given their views on association with "worldly" people.
Oh Marigi, I'm sorry about that. I can see how the economic pressure is coming down on both of you. I still applaud your sister for trying to start her business. I won't say the Kingdom Hall is a great place to foster that sort of ambition, but it's good to see she still has that strength and ambition. Hopefully she'll understand that the bad, sorry to say, does outweigh the good. Not to say she can't keep the good lessons, but she certainly has to leave all that bad behind. I hope you both see success and that your relationship can mend.
These videos are entertaining and informative as an outsider learning about a religion like this.
I'm honored to hear you're feeling better 😌
Somewhat better. Voice is still shaky, but we shall prevail
as an ex fundie christian, its scary how similar to cults (or are cults) that those religions pose. i literally know a guy who believes every conspiricy theory in the book and my step sister dates him. and they refuse to believe other wise, or they will be shamed for posing a "threat" to the religion. thats what pulled me away from the faith.
the crazy thing was, my church wasn't even openly homophobic or fundie till one of their members had "turned" into a gay liberal (aka, me)
Servants: "I'm so tired. I can't keep volunteering for terrible pay."
Elder: "I wouldn't worry; this world's ending anyways."
Servants: "You've been saying that for 200 years; I’m starting to doubt you even know what your schedule is."
Elder: "That's nonsense! Now, if you'll excuse me, I have an appointment at 2:00.
Servants: "It's 2:35."
Elder: "Central time!"
😂😅💀 My cybernetics can't keep up with the laughter!
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As a former witness myself, I will admit their were some good moments here and there but I'm still glad I left
Interesting how you are showing the good too Im excited to learn more about it (for curiosity’s sake not interested in joining)
Oh please don't join, but yeah, even i have to admit it wasn't all bad lol
I was so excited when I saw a new video from you, you rock dude! I loved you covering those Caleb and Sofia videos, probably even if you did them alone
I grew up Pentecostal so I get where you're coming from. People would roll on the floor and speak in tongues when they "felt the holy spirit" when they should of been filled with haldol. I felt isolated and uncomfortable constantly surrounded by people who were just so fake happy all the time. It made me develop into a loner who gets really uncomfortable when people touch me because they would constantly pull me into awkward hugs that would turn into prayer sessions. Everything was capable of hosting demons according to them including inanimate objects and the devil was the reason for any particular problem at any given time
My sister ended up becoming a Pentecostal pastor. Shes like a stranger to me, she never approved of my type of partner and tries to pray over me the few times I do actually see her. I got to the point that I take on extra shifts at work so I dont have to interact with her when shes in town
Thank you for another great video, I'm glad you are feeling better
Thank you! I think old J-Dawg didn't bring his A Game. I guess we'll need some more subscribers before he considers me enough of a threat to smite.
I was at the dojo back in October and we were talking about Halloween. We asked one child (he's about 5) what he was doing. "We don't celebrate Halloween--we're christians." Oh so horrible. Yet another family that's a victim of that horrible "Why Christians Shouldn't Celebrate Halloween" book.
That's not a good reason. Those are myths only. It's just literature
@@magellanthecat because why are they putting this idea to a child?why are they teaching stuff that are not realistic? That's not right. In reality, any holiday is ok to celebrate. Kids like that, including that 5 year old you're telling us. I'm sure the kid likes to celebrate with you, but he might be afraid of getting cought by the parents who told him not to, because of a religious belief that's not even a good reason. they're actually not honest. I have a JW friend who secretly celebrates holidays and watch and listen to her favorite artist for many years without the family knowing because shee knows that shee is a wittness which shee is told not to do these things. Shee is doing this to avoid getting cought doing what shee likes. We know children and yung people are good at discovering if things are real or not
@@magellanthecat my friend almost got a mental health problem because of a religion. I told her to just do what shee likes for her self. My advice to everyone, biblical does'nt always mean good. Some teachings are positive, some are negative. Be careful with those. It should not affect a person
That's the worst part about controlling religion, it's not all bad. If it was, they wouldn't have as many followers, and would be yet another doomsday cult lost to history. It's similar to being in an abusive relationship in that way
Very much so, kinda of a double edged sword
I mean, surely they gotta give you _something_ to make you stay.
Good choices Darth! Wow, I can't believe anyone enjoyed the field ministry. The Theo School definitely had benefits around public speaking. HUGE help later in life, even if it was just a selfish attempt to get you to 'witness' for them. I'm still very bitter about not attending college. The exhaustion: spot on.
Hey, I remember goodie nights! One of the things I do remember rather positively. I miss going to this one sister's house where she always made something every single Tuesday book study. She was such a good baker. It's a shame there isn't more community little things like that without the religion part.
while i was never a JW, i can say my fav thing to come out of the organization is... your channel!! i've genuinely been looking forward to every one of your videos (hence why i am sometimes late watching them, i want to properly enjoy them)
so glad the algorithm recommended you hehe
Another wonderful episode, Lord Magog! The book you showed i think would be wonderful to hear you read from your unique perspective and interjections! Just the thought of you turning a page and saying "Guess who! It's ya boi, white Jesus!" makes me smile
I remember having a dream about being in a cult not a Jw type cult but it was so terrifying it’s probably the only time I ever was extremely terrified really scary
Aww sorry to hear man. Glad it was just a dream tho
@@DarthMagog yeah thank goodness it was I explored a lot of morbid content with some things related to cults and having that feeling but as if I was actually in it terrified me so much
So glad that you're feeling better
Poor Sophia. Having to give up her ice cream. The sadness on her face.
It's so sad to see. Little does she know, it won't pay for any books.
So happy I found this channel.
Your videos are entertaining and I respect that you can look back on your experience with nuance.
I'm still pimo, so I have nothing but bitterness towards the JW experience 😅
But I agree that, when I believed, knowing you had a community of people that would fein interest in you and be friendly and atleast somewhat sociable was nice
Fair and honest review. Thank you.
Hey, honesty is the best policy 😎
And According to Lett, we are in the final part of the final part of the last days.
Shortly before the LAST day, of the LAST days 🤣 A completely unending day
As much as the religion abused me it protected if very few ways for instance, from drug abuse as it's common in my area. However one thing i hated was the constant state of celibacy the elders forced me into because i quote "The end is coming soon." Even though they always said how much they love their marriage and couldn't imagine their life without their partner, another thing that also fueled the sexual repression regarding that was that love was knowledge Not a feeling... That came straight from a for teens propaganda video. What kind of screwed up logic is that, all this put a great pain and burden on me. Another thing it protected me from was racism, which was another issue in my area. However i never experienced the community aspect you mentioned, it always felt fake And artificial. It was creepy to me if anything. Now i can list hates and disgusting practices for hours but since that's all they pros i can list I'll stop here.
Hey full respect on that. Definetly not entirely evil, but not helpful enough to save the religion
I never was a JW but my dad, aunt and grandmother were. Later my dad left the religion and my aunt was thrown out for cheating (long story but she didn't actually cheat, she and her husband just separated and she found another man). But they never preached to me, I never felt like either of them pushed me to be one of them, I never heard about my dad or aunt going door to door to preach.
The best part for me was in the late 60s and 70s we sold the literature. We asked for a contribution of $.10 for each magazine watch Tyrone awake and $.25 for a book. I think it was a dollar for a Bible. I used to go out when I needed gas in my car. I would sell the magazines for $.50 apiece. I get a dollar for that I would sell the books for a buck, one dollar and I was selling Bibles for five dollars every time I went out in the field service I would clean up gasoline was $.48 a gallon. I had a VW van so I could go surfing all the time so after I will go and field service, I'd make about 56 bucks in about an hour hour and a half then I'd say oh I have a Bible study and I would leave go fill up my truck go fill up my stomach at McDonald's and still have like a dollar and a half left over it was awesome then I go surfing.
I have heard JWs are very organized and self-starters due to having to schedule everything around meetings, field service and volunteer hours at the hall.
Every pro has its con as you know, Lord Magog. I think I can say for myself that while there were good things about being in the religion, I had to really think about how it affected me in the long run.
I remember the weekly meetings and book studies. Sometimes we had to get by without goodies, but when we have the gatherings I think it made up for a lot of lost time. I was never a fan of the circuit assemblies and the district conventions. My only solace was at the hotel room we would stay at my mom would give me a little box of Legos, a baggie of Goldfish crackers, and a juice box so as I can be entertained afterwards. I never really did much in the theocratic ministry School, though I did do talks. But my burnout was something that not a lot of people were noticing. I never baptized, but I admit that I was tempted to keep in the faith because of my family.
I could go on but I wouldn't want to spoil my appetite. May the force be with you.
I've got no problem with religion in general, there's a sense of community christians, muslims, buddhists etc can get out of making sense of spiritual matters or connecting with their own cultural roots, even just reinforcing the idea being nice to people isn't just a calculated move in society. It's just some and JW take the rituals and traditions to an unhealthy extent where it gets uncomfortably close to cults that legit take peoples money and dump them, isolate members so they feel trapped/lost without it, or play whatabout games when another religion isn't being progressive enough so it's okay when they reject modern ideas.
can’t wait to watchhhh right after soccer practice too !
Train hard apprentice. Dominate the field!
@@DarthMagog tomorrow is my first game ever, I’ll try my best 💪
I had a 4th grade teacher who was a JW and she would only allow kids to have birthdays 1 day at the end of the month with parents chaperoning, she would then leave the classroom
I totally agree that studying was my worst experience.
6:57 I know the real presence is more of Catholic thing then a Christian thing overall, but you don't even get to eat it at all? Then why have it as part of your gatherings in the first place? I don't get this
Oh we're "respectful observers" or something. Kevin McFree does a really good (and funny) DubTown animation about it
pft lol only the Elders are special enough to actually eat it, just like only the 144,000 are special enough for heaven. XD
I agree with all your “bests” but for me these were somewhat superficial. Even the bests feel empty, y’know.
Come puberty i began understanding I was not straight but before I even knew that about myself I already understood being gay was not okay.
(I was born into a jw family)
I always felt I was hiding something and couldn’t be me - when i became more aware of this I started to feel the distance between me and all my social connections within the congregation. Not sure if I’m wording it right but that inability to be authentic (which was always there I think, looking in hindsight) hit harder once I became aware of it.
So most of my social interactions, gatherings, events, broadcast viewing parties, etc. within the congregation felt empty and lacking. I felt I had to keep a wall up for fear of someone figuring out my secret.
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TMS tho. When college came around after I left I was the bomb. Time management, organizing my schedule and public speaking were a piece of cake 🤓
Haha, stole all the best from Jehovah and escaped the worst, thats what I like to hear!
gd day Darth Magog 🙂
I'm viewing this video on my big screen as I do and I have a question please , I think I'm remembering that my married jw family members celebrating an anniversary however I'm not able to remember if it's the wedding anniversary or some other .
thank you
Oh yeah, I always forget about Wedding Anniversaries. But yes, those are considered appropriate because Marriage is from Jehovah. So Wedding Anniversaries may be celebrated in the Watchtower Society.
@@DarthMagog where do the ceremonies take place , I'm trying to remember , certainly not in the kingdom hall or am I mistaken .
Thank you for answering my question
I really don't want to think about it much anymore however for the sake of seeing me free I'm appreciating that you speak truth as well I look to Wally's content . TY 🙂
setting me free
@@DarthMagog I have a few more questions on on this video , my I please . I'm only trying to understand what it was that I got myself into for some years as a non jw family member . As you are able please . This is a great place and I'velearned much so far , only so many unanswered questions that I was never permitted to ask , however respectfully I attempted .
Thank you
My #1 worst is being a second class citizen just because of my genitals. Just because I'm a woman, i can't do much as carry a microphone. Just sit, remain silent as some old man suggests my brain is "10% smaller" while everyone measures my skirt when i sit down.
Only good thing... Connections. There was a sign maker, exterminator, painter, carpenter... You knew everyone with a skill that you could get a discount for.
Edit- if there was a goody night, id hear about it from others who were invited and i wasn't. I was in good standing, baptized, but i wasn't cool enough for them and often was excluded. That makes goody night ten times worse.
I’ll say I did enjoy going out in service up until I was like 12 but I’ll stay it I did love giving talks in the B school(I gave some talks in the mane hall)but most where in the b school/back room
Yeah I gave my first talk in the B School. A lot less nerv-wracking lol
@@DarthMagog like I said I liked it and I was 12 when I gave my first one how old where you at the time?
I wish i could still talk with the friends I made in there. One of them, Misael, was the most intelligent individual I've ever met in person. I hope he's found his way out as well.
Same, been trying to reconnect with a few friends. With, mixed results. We'll get there 💙
@@DarthMagog best of luck, and keep up the good work 👏
Today at meeting I tried to talk to my elder about questions and he kept deflecting and then I told my mom and got in trouble 🤷🏾♂️
Connection is number one. Why can't humans do that without religion?
Are you Darth Vader cause I’ve been wondering for a while?
Nope, Magog. We don't really chill with Palpatine's guys like that 🤣
@@DarthMagog another question I have is were you allowed to watch the prince of Egypt or Star Wars
@@Ratchetzillastudios My parents and other JW's they knew tended not to like or be overly critical of any representation of events from the bible that weren't made by witnesses or aligned with their JW beliefs. They might still let us watch some but others they heavily disagreed with. For example, the one you mentioned "Prince of Egypt" they let me watch it but mainly to criticize/nitpick it. But something like "Passion of the Christ" was banned outright.
@@DarthMagog like the descendent of Noah, son of Japheth? Yes I googled that…
Hi master Magog. 😇
I am more of a Apple or Peacan Pie guy myself Master Magog. 😋🤤
Well I guess we all get inspired by many different kinds of Fictional Characters mine of mine one is Yuuki Konno of Sword art online season 2 who's courage inspired me to always stay strong during hard times master Magog. ♥️
I'd be really keen to hear your personal story someday, Lord Magog, and how you broke away from the JW organization, if you were willing to share!
Perhaps someday :)
For now, I'll keep at the analysis of other material 👌
Best part not having to spend money for holidays and birthdays
wow this was so interesting
There are some honestly, earnestly well meaning individuals, who just got caught up in it, and they really try to love other people in the best way they can. For me, it's always nice to be around people like that no matter what organization they might be a part of. Worst part: Wearing a suit all the time! C'mon man is there anything that can make a person feel more like a tool?
Yeah I feel that. I think the way they indoctrinate people, especially children, is part of the challenge. Just knowing that you didn't have much of a chance from the start
My book study had a goodie night, and there was almost always some fried chicken, soda and cakes.
Oh, homemade fried chicken 🍗. Almost made it worth lugging around those Daniel and Revelation Books.
@@DarthMagog Sometimes homemade but others they grabbed KFC or Publix Deli fried Chicken.
I would love for it’s Church or religion status to be taken…and just be called a Cult
Also what’s the song u used in introduced the best thing about the JW cult?
It's their theme song "Joy Eternally" or something. It's unreasonably catchy, despite how creepy it is lol
@@DarthMagog I found the song, n it’s easy to make it into a Christian song…but the song more reminds of Hillsong (a branching group that does over top songs that mostly have no meaning)
Wait there are good things in JW!?
It still floors me to this day lol
No mention of Miriam “tosses book aside” 😂
Miriam is so slept on. She's the Sakura of the Moses Story. You get plenty of Moses and Aaron.
I've never been JW, but I'd like to know more about why there's a lot more women than men in the church
Imma figure it out one of these days
As a women I think that part if it is that they instill a deep fear of worldly men, for example some extended family members texted me the story of Dinah when they learned I wanted to stop attending meetings (Dinah makes worldly friends and then gets r*ped by one of them, she is seen as partially responsible because she left the protection of her family and therefore Jehovah).
Women also marry young and might get stuck in a relationship with a man that’s deeply devoted to the religion making it more hard to leave, same can happen with men, but they have more freedom imo because wife’s have to submit to them. They’re family’s might be less likely to support higher education or independence for woman.
Also single mothers are going to be more likely to be converted and seek out community. Other than that I honestly don’t know lol those are just some theories.
I've never been a Jehovah's witness, & I realize the cult has alot of very evil problems (especially letting members die from refusing blood transfusions),
However, I must say, I like the no eternal torture in hell teaching.
I agree with Jehovah's witnesses that eternal torture is an unjustly cruel punishment method. I prefer the annihilationist concept (although the religion is still horrible but I agree eternal torture is an evil concept for a punishment method)
Oh yeah I feel you on that. It's an interesting experience
I was raised Baptist in the south, so not exJW. But it's interesting to hear there are positives of the JW culture.
Only had one encounter with JWs, an old woman knocked on my family's door I was 16 or 17 at the time and home alone. The woman had a teen girl with her about my age so I let them in to sit at the kitchen table to give their speal. The girl my age was attractive i admit was my motive for this. I gave them each a bottle of water and saw them off.
I am a baptized catholic who cuz of the experience with the JWs became a satanist, then what am I in Star Wars? Am I a different kind of force user who met the jedi and became a sith?
I hearby dub thee Master Chickens Sith Lord
@@Puppetgirl93 thank you master *kneels*
I ended the Bible study specifically because of their stance against education and the evolution denial . Evolution has been used in medical research and most medical breakthroughs for the past 120 years are DIRECTLY based on it.
I’m shocked this video is longer than 0 minutes and 0 seconds
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It’s true not, all was bad in fact it was a life saver for me as a single mum and my 4 kids the family I never had kept us from drugs n alcohol. I loved doing tasks and learnt a lot. I still have 3 in and finding that balance of fading but leaving seeds of actual truth with my kids.
Honestly that's probably the best way. You can still head out, but take the good with you and leave the bad :)
(Sorry, I’m a never JW so this might be a stupid question) but if your parents were inactive, why did you have to keep going to all the church functions etc? Was it that your other family members were active members and kinda forced those expectations on you?
Not a stupid question first off. Great question. Friend of the family was our presiding overseer and took an interest in us. Our Aunts and Uncles were active too and our parents still believed in it, just couldn't be fussed to attend. If that makes sense.
@@DarthMagog that makes total sense! Thank you so much for answering! I’m glad I stumbled upon your channel it’s very educational and I enjoy learning about this religion I’ve only ever been somewhat slightly exposed to
What did I enjoy? Lunch!
I think it's a logical conclusion that not all of the religion could be bad. If there was nothing attractive about being a JW, then they wouldn't be able to attract new converts. Love and Peace.
Definetly a layered thing for sure. The Watchtower likes to use a combination of both Fear and Love. And it's, well surprisingly affective. I think it's hit it's apex in how effective it can be on outsiders, but you know
@@DarthMagog Thanks for replying to my comment so soon! I remember when the JW's used to come to my door - I used to invite them in to sit down, as I genuinely enjoyed talking to them. I think they must have put me on some kind of list of interested people because they actually started to sent me messages on my phone scheduling times to visit me and my wife. I was cautious about getting too close to them though as, though I knew basically nothing about their faith, I remembered many years ago befriending a young lady who was very upset because she had left the JW's and for some reason wasn't allowed to talk to her mother any more. They abruptly stopped visiting me when I told them, in a friendly way, that I wasn't interested in coming to any of their community meetings. Keep up the good work Lord Magog 🙂
One good thing: some very wise advices. For example: Romans 12:17-18: Return evil for evil to no one.i Take into consideration what is fine from the viewpoint of all men. 18 If possible, as far as it depends on you, be peaceable with all men.; don't think about work outside your work and have good work - life balance, 1. Timothy 5:8 Certainly if anyone does not provide for those who are his own, and especially for those who are members of his household, he has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith. All those wisdoms (and not limited to those) are useful also in the "worldly" world of non JW.
Yeah thats true. Golden Rule applies to everyone
*Hands out mixed fruit cobbler cups and pretzel caramel cup cookies to the Dark Side Goodie Night~*
Lol... New Personality, or No Personality? XD
Funny thing about the no birthdays/no holidays n all that... Is that parents still went about celebrating their anniversary. Hypocritical and unfair much? Like how is y'all "worshipping" each other different than letting your kids feel special for a day? Yeah I don't celebrate stuff like Easter and most other stuff besides Valentines/Halloween/Christmas a lil for my kid, but I definitely make sure to try to make my kid's birthday special somehow every year at least and tell her I love her every single day, usually waking up or at least before school, bc the last time I heard it from my parents was when I was rly little.
And pffft yeah I learned to deal with rejection a lil TOO well if anything lmao...
Yeah unfortunately the flipside of that is all the girls that felt worthless and powerless in the wake of the boy's special status and privileges...
At first I was worried about the snitching/gossiping but then I realized it never ended and they were all hypocrites anyways so then I stopped giving a crap and went to go watch anime. XD
Yeah vocational school was the only thing my parents would help me with after HS. I picked to go to a massage school bc I was still basically a kid and naive af and I thought that I'd be "helping peopwle fweel better!" and then I realized how many creeps and perverts kept coming in trying to get nasty illegal crap out of me and it turned out bagging groceries was better after all. 9_9;; Although... WTH lmao drugs and sex are one thing but rock n roll, really guys, is this the 50's...? XD
Psh, yeah giving my money and time to the watchtower when I could be spending both on anime? That'd be a No-Brainer even if my family didn't think I was "mentally diseased". XP
Sorry, but our kingdom hall has windows. I am not sure where do windowless kingdom halls exist.
Minnesota, they are all windowless
Ours had one next to the door, but that was through another set of doors. No kids staring out the window wishing they were outside, Armageddon was a comin
No windows in the ones I went to..
Their new songs sound like Warren Jeffs songs!😂
Lol just a bit right? Radical shift from the Kingdom Melodies
There are 5 good things?
It was a stretch but I found 5 lol
@@DarthMagog hah! It was a good video, though. The public speaking paid off on you
2:52 I hate when they say new personality 🥴
Makes you queasy everytime they say it now doesn't it?
@@DarthMagog I never realized how weird it was until much later in my life 🥴
@@KaiNatalya goodie night sounds yummy but no thanks on the rest of JW though & my plus one would be my fur baby Kai. ♥️😈😉🐕🦺😋🤤♥️❤️
@@DarthMagog I do have Cheap days from my Diet to keep my weight off& lower my blood sugar back down out of my pre Diabetic level & keep it there so I live again master Magog & Kai. 🤤😋♥️❤️🍰🧁
@@DarthMagog they are mostly during weekend master Magog & Kai. 😋🤤😉
18:55 they weren't completely wrong in 1914
I'd be willing to debate that one, but yea 1914 WAS a big year
So, why did you leave the jws?
That is a long, loaded story. For another time...
@@DarthMagogNo offense.
@@BullShark-i2z none taken?
You should make a video on that.
OOOHHH, goody night! Yup, that was probablythe ONLY good thing about it!😂
Lol yes! Especially at the sister's house with the chocolate cake? Idk why, but ALLLLLLL the Elder's loved some chocolate cake
@@DarthMagog 😂👍
Oh that SLAVE scripture, should’ve noticed this God still wanted his chosen people after saving them from slavery in Egypt to be slaves in the wilderness😅and it’s still continuing😢I wonder what waits in paradise as a slave again.
FIRST 😍
Yep your first. Too bad you have nothing important to say. The governing body are Darth sidious.
Nah, Sidious had a plan at least. At best The Governing Body are Darovit.
@@DarthMagog hmmm 🤔. I disagree. In the end sidious fooled alot of people but his empire eventually failed after 157 year's. Watchtower is close in years . Apostates are the rebels. The governing body did dupe alot of people you and I included. It's all catching up to them now . The ugliness from the 10 has emerged . They are the dark lord . What other cult gets people to work for free? Do it for Jehovah. ( Jedi mind trick)
@@rickybobby9886 lots of good stuff for sure. But Palpatine had a lot going for him too.
1. He was a competent speaker.
2. He ruled the Galaxy instead of about 8 million humans and their windowless buildings
3. Could hold his own in a fight
4. Way better memes. Decapope can't hold a candle to our boy Papa Palps 🤣
I do still agree that they're EVIL af though, so we're still on the same team there for sure.
@@DarthMagog so maybe they are more like the mandolorian cult. This is the way. They have a song named that. I think it's this is the way to life.