Shaping a Metric Internal Keyway
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- We'll put our new custom internal shaping bar to use machining a 22MM keyway inside shaft hub. This was a great use for a shaper because we didn't have the broach. We'll go through the 2 step process of roughing and finishing the keway, as well as using precision gage blocks to measure the width.
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I love that you are using metric Adam. It makes us Euro types all warm and fuzzy inside to know you are turning to the dark side...
He isn't using metric though, he is converting it to real measurements. LOL
Depends on what real measurement are. The most confusing are to mix the two
@@tiredoldmechanic1791 - Mixing Imperial & Metric didn't work out to well for N.A.S.A. in 1999 with the total loss of a M$125 Mars Orbiter due to one contractor failing to make the conversion from Imperial to Metric... 😨
It is so mesmerizing watching a perfect cut being made by a perfect tool. This is why I love watching Abom at work.
You did a great job of building the tool holder.
"get rid of those sharp edges" you're the man! I wish all craftsmen would think that far. I've cut my fingers so often on parts where no one felt a need to file the edges. This is what makes the difference between a pretty good an a perfect part. Thumbs up!
I'm not a full time machinist - rather a 'Hammer Mechanic' when necessary, but I break every edge I can on everything I do because after over 30 years of industrial maintenance and service work, I can say for a fact that the sharpest damn thing in a plant is a key slotted shaft or coupling.
Those things have cut me WAY more times than any razor blade or other kind of cutter, by far!
Anytime I have a part made by a machine shop, I will put on the plans, and reiterate to the machinist, "Break ALL the edges! Break'em like you ain't gotta pay for'em!"
"Like it was machined for it." sounds like a t-shirt saying, Love the shaper at work, keep em coming.
Hi Adam:
It makes me feel good to see another mechanic work clean. You cleaned that machine up several months and you still keep it clean and yourself. My father told me to always work clean and gave me tips on how to stay clean. I feel I can do more task in less time by always working clean. Watching you I see you are doing that and I see one at least one more guy working clean. Thank you for sharing Adam.
there's something so oddly satisfying watching a shaper at work. the cyclic humming noise of the drive train combined with the thick shearing sound when a properly grinded toolbit cuts through metal like it was butter... probs as close to toolporn as it gets for old school machinists.
great vid, keep it up.
In 1978 I worked in a machine shop on a centerless...... TRW piston wrist pins, I brought a thousand of them to spec, sent them out for 4 thou chrome plating, back for me to take off 2 thou from the chrome...And brazed in carbide cutters, and diamond cut them for tooling, I learned so much...past 40 years, I have been building cars, GREAT job Adam, you HAVE the touch, and temperament that it takes !!
Again, another awesome series on making tools and using your machines for a project. Some people need to understand that yes, there are other ways to do this, but this is how you did it, with what you have, and that you are showing techniques, other ways to do a job.
Shaper work is so under rated, as an retired UK tool maker prior to the digital age of NC machines, keep up the good work
Our had no calibration, just draw in into the blue marker fluid and nudge it in ! And a belt drive !
I have no doubt the time to use the shaper is less than the time to make a broach plug, not to mention saving the cost of a 22mm broach.
Great video.
It's a pleasure to watch these vintage machines used as they were intended. Yes, it may take a longer to manually machine a part rather than utilizing a CNC machine, but that's how you develop skill's and learn the "tricks" of the trade. It takes a "hands on" craftsman with a serious amount of problem solving ability to become a master machinist. Unfortunately this is becoming a lost trade. I'm retired from 45 years in the trade and miss the sights, sounds, and the smell of "cutting metal". Kudos to you and keep the videos coming.
I’m falling in love with that shaper. It’s a little like watching a fire burn, just peaceful.
Agreed. It's hypnotic dude.
Adam, I would consider you a master at your craft. I'm amazed every time you share a project with us. Thank you.
Nice work a Shaper is still a useful tool especially for rare one offs.Taking time to be precise is where you are a true pro getting fantastic results, Thanks for a great tutorial video
This whole project was just great. I love the teaching side as well. I just want to add a slightly out of this subject comment. When I first joined the Fleet Air Arm Royal Navy UK emm years ago our first tech workshop Instructor said that if you lot want to become Aircraft Engineers with all the bits of papers that will go with it, there is only one way you will get there.. 1 attention to detail, 2 attention to detail with brain engaged. 3 NOT sure! ASK. 4 Time taken (Speed) will come fairly quickly if 1.2. 3 are always applied to whatever you do. THANKS Adam for showing that in your video's. Chris Gray Yeovil Somerset UK
I don't know what it is about these shaping vids but I just can't seem to get enough of them haha That internal shaping bar turned out amazing too!
The shaper looks and sounds amazing. All your machines run so nicely, I think they probably like doing work for you because you know how to utilize the precision they were designed and built for.
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Completing the full circle. A machinist making and refurbishing tools, becoming a tool maker in the process, to machine a part using tools made by him for the job. Enjoying the journey with you Adam.
I love to see the chips pile up. When I was a helper long ago, the owner likened things "cleaned up." I eventually went into computers, but I still love to watch machining. I had never seen a shaper before. They seem a bit slow, but way cool. You rock! 👍🤓
Thank you Adam , this worked out perfectly , your attention to detail is amazing. I have an old Forbe shaper not sure where it is made but the tool feed Is metric . Thanks for sharing this with us , I have two traction engine axel bosses to true up the keyways , so will be making a boring bar up for my shaper .
Wow the auto feed is cool , I’ve not seen a shaper with auto feed before but it is cool . Thanks you , all the best from New Zealand 🇳🇿 👍
It’s real nice to see someone as passionate about something as you. Thanks again for a great video.
Nice work Adam. Saw your cameos on TOT's new vid too. Funny stuff. Way to keep it rated G lol "front door"
There's something really hypnotic about watching the G&E carve metal. It's a beautiful piece of engineering.
Almost fell asleep! LOL
I agree.
Man, from start to finish, just super professional all the way Adam. It's really inspirational to see what you've done with your shaper. Incredible precision with a tool that must be a real pleasure to use. The shaper does the job with no complaints, and just pushes forward and back with such ease. Getting all the tools tuned up, making the bars - all the videos have been a real pleasure to watch. It's really great to see an older technology work so well and do so much. Thanks again for all the hard work you do behind the scenes bringing these videos to us. Pro all the way. Excellent!
Mark
Thanks Mark! Hope all has been well over in Quincy!
866...like it was machined for it. God I love that sound bite. It's equivalent to "the greatest thing since sliced bread". If the mathematics of machining was an artwork, you'd be the Remrandt. I dig this channel so much, and that's coming from a dead carbon carcass worker (woodworker) who wants a mill and a lathe so I can make my own pickups, tuning keys, and tone/volume knobs.
Great job as always Adam. It's a pleasure to watch the way you work and keep everything clean. I hate working in a mess, and once had a boss who gave me hell for taking time to clean up around my machine. Glad to know there is someone who feels as I do.
Watching you work and listening to your voice is therapeutic, Thanks Adam.
That G&E is a great tool!! I loved watching you re-build it. Perfect job.
If you only need one or two, definitely good to have a shaper. Guessing a broach would be 150, bush, not sure price guess, or would have to make one. I kicked my shaper out of the shop about year and half ago. Just got rid of a bunch of machines last week, mention the shaper to guy who bought bunch, told him I show him more machines later. But now, I have room to keep shaper, and this video shows a good reason to have a shaper, so, I keepin mine and will move it back in soon. I swear I seen a shaper tool bar or two , like yours, in the crib somewhere. If I see it (them) again, I will know what they are now and place them in a newly created "Shaper Tooling" section.
Please, when you can, show us some things that we can use shapers for, that either cant be done on other machines, or that save us a lot of money (to make one or two parts) making them on the shaper.
That would be a worthy endeavor for content from the entire machinist community that have shapers.
Hi Adam. You’re not just a very Good machinist but also an artist when it comes to quality machining.
very nice
I love the shaper videos. I have watched them all from the very first one when the shaper arrived. Thanks Adam.
I’m glad I’m not imagining things. I was watching this and thinking, “I don’t remember that set screw in the end of the bar in the original from the other videos”. Such old and beautiful technology.
I got to say,
Its great hearing Metric and Imperial being used at the same time,
I am from a metric country but also use imperial my self as many people I deal with still like imperial,
Thanks
That shaper operates so smoothly. It's barely breaking a sweat. A very solidly made piece of equipment.
I watched this project from start to finish and was impressed with every step. Especially how you explain your actions in setup and machining. Great job, I'm glad the shaper is working out like you expected.
Adam, i just wanted to take the opportunity to thank you publicly for your great videos. i have tried many of the techniques you've shown in my own shop with great success. For example; I have never been great at sharpening drill bits, but after watching you do it i was able to sharpen one to a perfect point very quickly. I promptly used it to cut the spot welds on a gas tank i'm repairing for my 1937 Studebaker. keep up the great videos!
I started my career with trees, then computers. Then factory work. I'm happy, ok, just so you know?. But engineers/machinists rock! Wish i'd taken a different path. Making stuff with machines is way cool. Thankyou for posting Adam, from this old guy. I'm tracking you through lockdown, mate, and it's good. Real good.
Kudos on how clean you keep your shop! It’s so much easier to work without crap everywhere.
@Jerry Long Amen, sir!
I was lucky to get a quick tour a week or so ago. Adam keeps his shop and his machines immaculate!
Nice one Adam , you have a touch for this old school heavy work. Cheers from the UK
You do beautiful work, Adam. Thanks for sharing it with us all. Watching a shaper work is so fascinating in its slow, steady progress through a cut. I used one 25 years ago in high school for a couple of my metal projects, thought they were cool then, and still think they're cool. The new tool bars you made work very well!
I jist started watching recently. Mostly been watching the shaper vids. Watch thos video with the camera sitting on the vise facing the tool head. I can see a real nice gloss sheen on the side of the ram. The machine, at your hands, has made a massive transformation. It has really come along well. I dknt have the space to set up machines like that but, it sure is nice to see someone appreciate them so much. Thanks Adam, for everything.
Watching these shaper videos have been very cathartic. I can see why they are a thing of the past in any modern shop, though.
love ,the love u put in ur job Adam , watching u from Morocco ;
The guy who doesn't want to own a shaper must have his head read! What an awesome machine. I've seen a Russian version in Cairo, Egypt. What a monster machine, but in really good shape.
Brilliant. Great to see someone enjoy his work like you do. Thanks for sharing Adam.
Hey Adam, sorry to see this series end. Really enjoyed the trip.
You have successfully applied an old style machine to present day work. Congratulations. I love the beautiful chips it produces.
Enjoyable watching your first project with the new bars you made and your first keyway on the shaper.
Even in the shaper you are extremely precise, it is time to add a d.r.o. to that beautiful machine! Thanks Adam
Believe me, I have been thinking about that!
I've learned a lot from your videos and now get to use these skills at my job.
Very nice work Adam and you are looking good too!
ATB, Robin
Thanks Robin
Your shaper is looking really good.
You can see that you put a lot of effort in restoring it.
I wonder after watching this video if "This Old Tony" isn't regretting selling his shaper?
Great work and well done on the weight loss!
Adam, you make an excellent teacher.
This is the best keyway I have seen. Sweet.
Nice to see your custom tool in action.. 👍👍🔥
35 years ago i saw hot air furnaces had pulleys with grooves like that and wedges set screws that locked them on.. Nice seeing it made
Hi Adam, man, the work you produce is just really perfect. Learn experiences all the time. Thanks for sharing.
If I could have my time over again I would be a machinist or even a toolmaker. Adam you're awesome, you provide a clear and business like view into the world of machining. Thanks
Now THIS is what that machine was made for ! PERFECT !
Great stuff, it's nice to see you getting healthier,I appreciate how you tell us the setup and what should happen next, it's like a teacher telling you how he breaks down a job. Thank you
I had this on the TV tonight, the shaper looks so clean on the widescreen. If they did concourse shows for machine shop tools then you should put it on a trailer and show it. My little Abigail (4yrs old) said it looks like a broken train, I think that’s high praise from a kid these days 😊
Wow. You really hit that right on the money. It has been a real pleasure to watch you refurbish and restore this machine, design and build the tooling and then apply those years of experience to the task. The result is the icing on the cake. You must be proud of your achievements. Great job and a cracking video as per usual. many thanks.
Congrats Adam! Like you I was pleased as could be when I cut my first internal keyway with my Atlas 6B Shaper (video on my channel). I have cut over 50 keyways for friends and fellow machinists of all shapes and sizes. Sure saves money on those expensive broaches. Congrats again on your success.. Fred
Adam, if I had a dollar for the shaft couplings I’ve had to bore out and broach keyways in id have a lot more money in my pocket. lol. I’m sure you can say the same. I like your way of doing it a lot better. The shaper cuts a nice lookin keyway. Always like your videos! Coming from a fellow manual machinist, yours are the best on UA-cam. Keep the chips hittin the floor man! Love it!
Watching you slowly construct this keyway I can see this job quietly ticking all your boxes. I can see and hear the satisfaction you feel. This was happening for me too.
Nice job on that fit. The gauge blocks hold steady at an angle but slip through with no effort. You can see how good it fits on the video.
Fantastic video. The content quality (both here and on instagram) has been awesome. Love to see it man
I take my hat off to you Adam for getting that old Shaper in tip top shape. You actually got it better than I though it would turn out. :)
You have sure done a great job getting the shaper up to speed so that it can be used for work in the shop, and you have done a great job learning how to use it.
Great Job Adam, you make the Shaper look like the tool of the future! I absolutely enjoyed this, and the keyway looks very nice; plus you have control over its fit, whereas a broach you don't. The tool for roughing and finishing worked well. Again great job!
I just can't get my head around how enormous the shaper vise is...
You are a true craftsman there Adam and I know, have the admiration of many who watch you. Sharing your knowledge and applying it in such a clear and precise manner!
It's is an absolute pleasure following along in your endeavors!
I know for myself, I have learned so much about set-ups and how-to's when it comes to machining. Thank you so much for what you do and share!!!
Razor!
Who the F*()^K could thumbs down a professional like this ???
The G& E shaper is looking awesome. Excellent work you have done too it.
WoW, that is a big bar and that machine has nice steady motion!
In another life I think I would have been a machinist. But instead I spend lots of down time overseas watching your videos. Thanks so much!!! Great job on losing the weight too!!!
The most awesome.You're the reason I watch this stuff. What a great teacher.
I must like the vids,still watching after a couple of years. Videography!
Nice Adam! Definitely the right tool for the job.
That's such a nice machine Adam. Your such a great machinist. And you make it look so simple. Which I know it certainly isn't easy to a newbie like me.
I look forward to seeing what you do with this in the future.
Thanks for sharing Adam, I never understood the advantages of a shaper until I started to watch you. Thanks.
I always have fun watching you on the machines. It is obvious that you enjoy it and take great pleasure in turning out a quality product.
shaper fan, and that monster dead on....proud for you.
Very nice work, especially since it's done on a vintage machine !
Paddy
Shaper is the classic job for that tool . You are Machinist genius.
Nice work Adam, Just a tip, you might want to consider grinding a radius on the corners of your finishing tool, 0.4/0.6 mm is what the book recommends for a 22mm keyway. Nature abhors square corners, stress raisers and all. lol.
Yup, that's one of the first things I thought in machine design, never have sharp inner corners.
You are realy getting in good shape man keep going ! Intresting video with the shaper. Greetings from the Netherlands.
oNE OF THE BETTER VIDEOS YOUY HAVE MADE The last time i seen this was in 1966 when 1 of the old tool makers did somthing like this.. I was told to watch and learn
Never worked with a shaper, they look like they are a great machine to use. Thank you once again Adam.
Very Nice
That was something to be proud off. like the guy on the A team used to say. I love it when a plan comes together. Great Job.
Yes, I enjoyed this video very much. Thank you.
Very nicely done! That worked great. :-)
Great series!!! I love the shaper. Awesome work!
I like a man who knows what he's doing.
Nice job Adam. Made it look easy
Adam, Had to laugh a bit. My Dad would say "fits like it was made for it" !
Great video as always, thank you.
Eric
esoomreltna I’ve always liked the phrase “Just like a bought one” to describe something one just made well (or, if being ironic, made very badly...)
really enjoy watching the shaper work. That last tool left a really nice smooth finish looks like.
Great job ! I have learned alot from you over the years. thanks
This was fascinating! It reminds me of making jewelry for a behemoth! LOL That hub is really a work of art and the shaper is in itself beautiful. All-in-all a wonderful video. The comments about imperial and metric were also very welcome! Thanks very much.