You left the profession of mere Machinist long ago. What you are doing now is serious tool-making adding to the educational aspect, elevates what you do to a level of pure and fine Art. Deforming metal the way you do is about as close to magic as a typical office-worker might experience, but I enjoy every fucking second of your videos, and you as a host. There is a reason why your fans are so fond and proud to watch! For me, yourself and our dear friend AvE are the best things that UA-cam has to offer.
Re-purposing that second clapper box is just genius, instead of sitting on the shelf doing nothing it will be yet another addition to the shapers repertoire' of capabilities. Cant wait for part 2.
These are my favorite episodes to watch. Anytime you are making tools for your machines is when I learn the most. Can't wait to see the rest of the components being made.
It is great that you found a use for the extra clapper. Combining tool-making with recycling, you set an example for hobbyists and demonstrate your appreciation for the gifts and things viewers send you. Watching your work, one could believe that with enough of the right metals, you could make nearly any tool or machine part in your shop, even going so far as to increase their capabilities through customization like this. It is a kind of self sustaining system reminiscent of early blacksmiths, who built their own tools, and passed them on to their apprentices. On a side note, the length of your shots is right on, not so long as to become boring (no pun intended), while long enough to paraphrase each operation. Glad to see you are doing well, and are finding new and interesting sources of content, take care.
I sure enjoy watching you work. As a Machinery mover, I have moved hundreds of machines, but never get to see them work. Thanks, keep the vids coming! We are seeing less of you, good job!
Hey Adam, been watching your videos for a while now, and between you, Jody and Tony, I went ahead and taught myself TIG welding and bought a cheap little lathe, watched all you guys' videos over the past 5 years, thinking I'd just use the skills to make stuff for myself and maybe family members. Turns out there's nobody around here that weld aluminum or manually turn metal, so my cheap welder and chinese import lathe have made their investments back many times already, although pretty much all of it has gone back into tooling and precision measuring equipment, and I love doing it to relax, everything about it is so meditative and a nice change from the attitude I'm used to having to have at work (at work I have to make sure things are done FAST, with welding and machining I can calm down and make sure it's done precisely). Having spent a lot more now on precision measuring devices, I have to say I'm pretty impressed with what cheap import machines are capable of these days. I did split my first 4-jaw chuck in half from overtorqueing it but with their prices I guess you can't always get the best :P I do have an old Starrett depth gauge from my visit to New Hampshire last year, missing the 2-4" range, but for how little of my work is imperial it doesn't matter too much. Have to say you're right about what you've always been saying about just the feel of old Starrett tools, they're pretty great, I wish I had more use for them (I'm European so I hardly ever take them out except to just admire them). Thank you for all you've been able to impart in terms of knowledge, I hope you keep it up for many years to come. Next I'll have to get myself a milling machine, when the hobby budget allows for it.
Careful Abom, if you keep too busy with projects and posting videos, they'll call you back to work. You're looking good and I hope you're feeling good too. Thanks for posting. It's a nice project that will pay-off some day probably sooner than you know.
Adam, on my vertical shaper I made a similar bars to what you are making here. Then a couple years ago I made a bar that I bolt Morrison type keyseat cutters to. Works like a charm and a lot easier and less costly per cutting edge. Lot less time standing in front of a grinder. One bar can cover a whole bunch of internal keyway sizes by just changing out the Morrison single tooth cutters.
Dale, I use my 12 inch stroke Morey Vertical Shaper to cut internal keyways and splines. A few years back I cut internal splines in hundreds of collars used in hammer type drill bits used to drill holes in the ground for construction or other purposes. My Morey has a built in rotary table so it is not difficult to cut splines, multiple keyways, etc.
WD Green neat I never saw one of those machines but I have mental picture. I’ll google it. What vintage is it? Yes like to find a old one for my personal projects.
Out of passing interest, I used to keep a few scraps of automotive heater hose, split the long way in my 'junk' drawer. Just the thing for for holding delicate items, such as the mic gently in the vise (and/or wherever). As always, common sense & good judgement required. :) Cool videos, Thanks!
Huge fan of the videos. love the shaper stuff. I like it so much I picked up and atlas 7in this is definitely on my list of projects to make here in the near future. keep up the nice work.
I went back and watched some of your older videos and am truly appreciating all the upgrades you've done to your shop. Especially the lighting! It makes seeing the details of what you're doing much easier. Also that table is great as far as it's a clean background for highlighting the talking point of the video. Not related, nice cameo on THOT's page. I was wondering if you would consider doing a basics measurement video? A lot of the videos/pages I find are about how to read a micrometer. While that's easy enough, going over the feel and how hard to clamp onto the piece when measuring or going over that rocking motion you do as well as that kind-of soft hands catch you do on the bore gauge.
If you can fix the clapper and still have it not drag too much on the back stroke why does it have one to start with? Does it depend on the springiness of the tool mount?
Doug Rundell you get an issue with tool pulling into the job. So you either lock the clapper and cut down, or invert the job and cut up then the clapper swing doesn't cause an issue.
Hi Adam, Great video.. Thanks I have often thought about when the tension/feed takes place on a shaper. Does the tension/feed only increase when the tool is completely back ...? Otherwise, it is not possible to use a fixed bar like this or how doe's it works?
Backstroke drag on angle grinders is always going to be a problem until you get your hand-held power tools fed with DC. Just look how they absolutely eliminated backstroke woes on early battery angle grinders. Sadly the brushless models may have revived the discombobulatery mischief. Perhaps we need a flapper clapper? ;-)
Can you offset the thinner part of the rod from the center? You would gain some space below the clapper box and some adjustability. It would also make a neat video i think :-)
I'm kind of surprised you didn't just fabricate a whole new "carrier" (meaning the piece that mounts directly to the head of the ram, the piece with the semi-circular cutout) from a fresh piece of steel and then drill & tap that piece to accept your boring bar.
OutOfTheirSkulls Nope, the big thing about a 4 jaw is doing odd shapes, the solution is to mount counterweights to the T slots opposite the large side, I have turned blocks with much larger offsets on a lathe with a smaller swing, I know I had to use 2 weights almost at the ends of the T slots and I think they were about 1lb each and out further than the corners of the workpiece. Once balanced the chuck would stay anywhere I stopped it, ran at a couple hundred rpms, no noticeable out of balance forces. The most likely answer is ‘because Adam wanted to do it that way’ or didn’t want to spend the extra setup time when he had access to a faster method. Of course it is possible that with such a small part and such a heavy lathe he could have omitted the extra balance weights and therefore the extra setup time and still got a perfect hole at the low rpms he used with the boring head.
Hi Abom is there away your videos can be dated, like your tee shirt videos? I have watched most all of them some you mentioned spring and some you mentioned Christmas? Thanks Ron
Hey, Adam, I have a pre-1930 G&E 24 inch shaper which doesn’t have an automatic lubrication system. However, the head is fitted with a hole for an automatic downfeed. Any idea where a guy might find the mechanism for the Downfeed?
There are two pieces dovetailed together in the top of the boring head. The bottom piece can slide in the dovetail to increase or decrease the diameter you want to cut. They are clamped together with grub screws when the cutting edge is at the diameter you want. You can kind of see it if you pause the video at the right times.
was wondering how you are doing on the weight loss program. Doesn't look like you have dropped much weight over the past 8 months. Hope you realize that reducing weight will lead to a better life style
Your cameo's in This Old Tony's video on filling was hilarious.
You left the profession of mere Machinist long ago. What you are doing now is serious tool-making adding to the educational aspect, elevates what you do to a level of pure and fine Art. Deforming metal the way you do is about as close to magic as a typical office-worker might experience, but I enjoy every fucking second of your videos, and you as a host. There is a reason why your fans are so fond and proud to watch! For me, yourself and our dear friend AvE are the best things that UA-cam has to offer.
Re-purposing that second clapper box is just genius, instead of sitting on the shelf doing nothing it will be yet another addition to the shapers repertoire' of capabilities. Cant wait for part 2.
Loved your contribution to the die filer video. Don't mess with the big guy!
These are my favorite episodes to watch. Anytime you are making tools for your machines is when I learn the most. Can't wait to see the rest of the components being made.
It is great that you found a use for the extra clapper. Combining tool-making with recycling, you set an example for hobbyists and demonstrate your appreciation for the gifts and things viewers send you. Watching your work, one could believe that with enough of the right metals, you could make nearly any tool or machine part in your shop, even going so far as to increase their capabilities through customization like this. It is a kind of self sustaining system reminiscent of early blacksmiths, who built their own tools, and passed them on to their apprentices. On a side note, the length of your shots is right on, not so long as to become boring (no pun intended), while long enough to paraphrase each operation. Glad to see you are doing well, and are finding new and interesting sources of content, take care.
I sure enjoy watching you work. As a Machinery mover, I have moved hundreds of machines, but never get to see them work. Thanks, keep the vids coming! We are seeing less of you, good job!
it is amazing to see something that wobbles so bad make a perfect round circle. awesome work Mr Adam
Really enjoying the shaper series, not used one in 25 years - truthfully thought it was a dead technology by now, it's good to see them in use.
Thank you Abom79. New subscriber. Alway a joy to watch someone make or modify things.
Hey Adam, been watching your videos for a while now, and between you, Jody and Tony, I went ahead and taught myself TIG welding and bought a cheap little lathe, watched all you guys' videos over the past 5 years, thinking I'd just use the skills to make stuff for myself and maybe family members. Turns out there's nobody around here that weld aluminum or manually turn metal, so my cheap welder and chinese import lathe have made their investments back many times already, although pretty much all of it has gone back into tooling and precision measuring equipment, and I love doing it to relax, everything about it is so meditative and a nice change from the attitude I'm used to having to have at work (at work I have to make sure things are done FAST, with welding and machining I can calm down and make sure it's done precisely). Having spent a lot more now on precision measuring devices, I have to say I'm pretty impressed with what cheap import machines are capable of these days. I did split my first 4-jaw chuck in half from overtorqueing it but with their prices I guess you can't always get the best :P
I do have an old Starrett depth gauge from my visit to New Hampshire last year, missing the 2-4" range, but for how little of my work is imperial it doesn't matter too much. Have to say you're right about what you've always been saying about just the feel of old Starrett tools, they're pretty great, I wish I had more use for them (I'm European so I hardly ever take them out except to just admire them).
Thank you for all you've been able to impart in terms of knowledge, I hope you keep it up for many years to come. Next I'll have to get myself a milling machine, when the hobby budget allows for it.
Cant wait for part 2! And your dewalt sponsorship is low key, but not unnoticeable.
starting to see big changes in your weight loss. good luck on all your work Adam
Careful Abom, if you keep too busy with projects and posting videos, they'll call you back to work. You're looking good and I hope you're feeling good too. Thanks for posting. It's a nice project that will pay-off some day probably sooner than you know.
You make it seem so easy as you narrate every move. I love it!
Damn, man. You make me wish I could go back in time and be a machinist.
Adam, on my vertical shaper I made a similar bars to what you are making here. Then a couple years ago I made a bar that I bolt Morrison type keyseat cutters to. Works like a charm and a lot easier and less costly per cutting edge. Lot less time standing in front of a grinder. One bar can cover a whole bunch of internal keyway sizes by just changing out the Morrison single tooth cutters.
That's a good idea!
what brand is your vertical shaper? and what do you use it on?
Dale, I use my 12 inch stroke Morey Vertical Shaper to cut internal keyways and splines. A few years back I cut internal splines in hundreds of collars used in hammer type drill bits used to drill holes in the ground for construction or other purposes. My Morey has a built in rotary table so it is not difficult to cut splines, multiple keyways, etc.
WD Green neat
I never saw one of those machines but I have mental picture. I’ll google it.
What vintage is it? Yes like to find a old one for my personal projects.
WD Green I found a bunch of them for sale
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I knew 6-8,000 pound machine.
I would used it couple times per year on my personal projects.
Out of passing interest, I used to keep a few scraps of automotive heater hose, split the long way in my 'junk' drawer. Just the thing for for holding delicate items, such as the mic gently in the vise (and/or wherever). As always, common sense & good judgement required. :) Cool videos, Thanks!
"Swiss Army" style deburring tool. Never seen one. So cool. You learn something new every day.
I always had to change the tips manually.
Adam you have great talent I’m always amazed with your knowledge, expertise, and your videos thanks for sharing.!.!.!.
That is a "vision of future"... Abom79 says: "I don't have any internal shape job... but I want to be prepared"
Huge fan of the videos. love the shaper stuff. I like it so much I picked up and atlas 7in this is definitely on my list of projects to make here in the near future. keep up the nice work.
Fantastic New Project , lots of machining and learning Thanks Boss
Nice input on TOT's latest. haha
I went back and watched some of your older videos and am truly appreciating all the upgrades you've done to your shop. Especially the lighting! It makes seeing the details of what you're doing much easier. Also that table is great as far as it's a clean background for highlighting the talking point of the video.
Not related, nice cameo on THOT's page.
I was wondering if you would consider doing a basics measurement video? A lot of the videos/pages I find are about how to read a micrometer. While that's easy enough, going over the feel and how hard to clamp onto the piece when measuring or going over that rocking motion you do as well as that kind-of soft hands catch you do on the bore gauge.
Oh man, where's part 2? I can't wait!
Another example of figuring out how to do what you got to do - nice one Adam.
Interesting project. Looking forward to the rest of it.
Loved the appearance onToT
Great work, Adam. It's is great to see you in the shop.
When i made a boring bar for my shaper I used the clapper to. Ill show it in a video sometime..
Half expecting a ToT appearance at any minute now....
Scott K just his hands
If you can fix the clapper and still have it not drag too much on the back stroke why does it have one to start with? Does it depend on the springiness of the tool mount?
I'm a little confused, Adam. Why would you not want the clapper box to clap?
Doug Rundell you get an issue with tool pulling into the job. So you either lock the clapper and cut down, or invert the job and cut up then the clapper swing doesn't cause an issue.
Going to be a nice big beefy bar!
they are interesting machines, I can see you getting one.
Remember what this old Tony said about filing lol. Could not pass up saying that
Nice new table, nice project!
Love making new toys. Thanks a bunch fella !
What kind of rubber do you use for those T slot covers on the do-all. I like the ridges.
It’s Buna rubber. Someone on PM was selling it by the foot years ago.
Man, kinda' old by the time I found it but have to admire taking THAT much steel off that chunk of steel with a lathe!
Pretty nifty little tool you used to deburr there at the end
Hi Adam, Great video.. Thanks
I have often thought about when the tension/feed takes place on a shaper. Does the tension/feed only increase when the tool is completely back ...? Otherwise, it is not possible to use a fixed bar like this or how doe's it works?
yup, always love the toolbit grinding, cause i suck at it and you make it look easy lol =)
Great video again as always. At 20:30 what deburring tool do you use? My cheapy one in work is useless and could do with a decent quality one
its a noga deburing tool.
@@jamiebuckley1769 Thanks very much, off to eBay I go!
I’m glad your a talented metal worker because acting isn’t your calling😉
Adam. What is the make of you vertical test dial indicator and that boring tool please? I think i could use those tools a lot in my shop.
I heard that you should lift your angle grinder on the back stroke...
You are dragging your flap wheel on the backstroke. No no no.
Backstroke drag on angle grinders is always going to be a problem until you get your hand-held power tools fed with DC. Just look how they absolutely eliminated backstroke woes on early battery angle grinders. Sadly the brushless models may have revived the discombobulatery mischief. Perhaps we need a flapper clapper? ;-)
Could one of you guys explain this a bit more? I'm curious! Always looking to improve techniques! (Just a home gamer)
Thanks in advance!
@@mattmanyam Pretty sure it's a joke based on the times some people repeatedly scolded Adam for not lifting the hand file on the backstroke.
See (hear) how long the grinder motor takes to wind down? That is precision.
if you don't have a lot of room use a bearing locknut like N-10
Nice slap at 17:39. Who does that mill think it is?
:)
Can you please list the Starrett tools you use so I can get them.
Just for curiosity sake, why are ALL the old machines the same greenish color? Well, not all machines because the shaper is gray but you get my drift.
What grit and composition do you have on your sharpening grinder and stones, Adam?
For what reason would anyone thumbs down this video, smh 🤦🏾♂️
I'm surprised you didn't do that boring in the lathe. Monster filing off camera.
ADAM great video.
You had me at 'custom".
Interesting as always 👍🏻
Nice. Thanks for the video.
Can you offset the thinner part of the rod from the center? You would gain some space below the clapper box and some adjustability.
It would also make a neat video i think :-)
Perfect job well done👌
just ace Adam if i had a work shop like yours the wife would not see me lol :-) thanks den
The stone at 11:00 is so dirty it looks like a bar of metal. You probably should clean it. Great vid tho.
Would that not have been quicker & easier to bore the clapper in a 4 jaw in the lathe?
Regards.
7:13 Why is there a 3-jaw chuck on the floor?
Why not?
I would have use the monarch taper attachment an made it tapered fit . Adam
What deburing tool are you using
This is a lathe job in my world since i don't have a mill..
Does anyone know what deburring tool that is he is using?
noga multiburr
AlmightyHose thanks
Nice! I love shaper videos!
I'm kind of surprised you didn't just fabricate a whole new "carrier" (meaning the piece that mounts directly to the head of the ram, the piece with the semi-circular cutout) from a fresh piece of steel and then drill & tap that piece to accept your boring bar.
the shaper requires the clapper box for tool clearance on the return stroke or the bit would be ruined after the first cut so a ridged mount is no go
Any reason why you not boring it in the Lathe with a four jaw?
I believe its because the hole offset is to great.
OutOfTheirSkulls
Nope, the big thing about a 4 jaw is doing odd shapes, the solution is to mount counterweights to the T slots opposite the large side, I have turned blocks with much larger offsets on a lathe with a smaller swing, I know I had to use 2 weights almost at the ends of the T slots and I think they were about 1lb each and out further than the corners of the workpiece. Once balanced the chuck would stay anywhere I stopped it, ran at a couple hundred rpms, no noticeable out of balance forces.
The most likely answer is ‘because Adam wanted to do it that way’ or didn’t want to spend the extra setup time when he had access to a faster method.
Of course it is possible that with such a small part and such a heavy lathe he could have omitted the extra balance weights and therefore the extra setup time and still got a perfect hole at the low rpms he used with the boring head.
iam thinkin a vertical p@w shaper would be more fun to use
What's up with the ads popping up during the video?
Hi Abom is there away your videos can be dated, like your tee shirt videos? I have watched most all of them some you mentioned spring and some you mentioned Christmas? Thanks Ron
In the video description it always shows the date video was published.
Ahhhh yes if your a hobbyist do whatever it takes to be on the good side of the scrap yards! Get all the material you need for penny’s
Hey, Adam, I have a pre-1930 G&E 24 inch shaper which doesn’t have an automatic lubrication system. However, the head is fitted with a hole for an automatic downfeed. Any idea where a guy might find the mechanism for the Downfeed?
Love it nice job👍😊
Awesome!
I am confused as hell on how that first cut was actually correct and concentric with that entire tool wobbling all over the place??
There are two pieces dovetailed together in the top of the boring head. The bottom piece can slide in the dovetail to increase or decrease the diameter you want to cut. They are clamped together with grub screws when the cutting edge is at the diameter you want. You can kind of see it if you pause the video at the right times.
Nice!!
Nice made, ur very exactly
There are much more boring heads than that.
A really interesting boring video.
Hi Jakob :-)
hi Adam....
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was wondering how you are doing on the weight loss program. Doesn't look like you have dropped much weight over the past 8 months. Hope you realize that reducing weight will lead to a better life style
None of your business
Nothing is more important than minding your own business.