Hazbin Hotel Is Bad, Actually
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
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I'm only three days late on this upload, lol. Can I be totally honest? I'm a little nervous about uploading this one. I've heard that the Hazbin Hotel fandom can be pretty ruthless, and I have a lot of critiques about the show...
Maybe send some positivity my way. I hope you enjoy!
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0:00 - Intro
0:39 - What is "Hazbin Hotel" ?
4:11 - Plot: Pilot
12:30 - Hazbin Hotel's BIGGEST Problem
14:38 - Plot: Episode 1
22:17 - Plot: Episode 2
28:08 - Plot: Episode 3
33:58 - Plot: Episode 4
40:03 - Plot: Episode 5
48:48 - Plot: Episode 6
55:24 - Plot: Episode 7
1:01:27 - Plot: Episode 8
1:11:19 - World-Building: Princess Charlie
1:15:09 - World-Building: Angelic Weapons
1:17:03 - World-Building: The Dying Question
1:20:41 - World-Building: Deal-making
1:22:20 - Songs: Inside of Every Demon is a Rainbow
1:23:05 - Songs: Happy Day in Hell
1:23:55 - Songs: Hell Is Forever
1:24:56 - Songs: Stayed Gone
1:26:52 - Songs: It Starts with Sorry
1:27:15 - Songs: Respectless
1:28:11 - Songs: Whatever It Takes
1:29:22 - Songs: Poison
1:30:35 - Songs: Loser, Baby
1:31:19 - Songs: Hell's Greatest Dad
1:32:54 - Songs: More Than Anything
1:33:57 - Songs: Welcome to Heaven
1:34:44 - Songs: You Didn't Know
1:36:58 - Songs: Out for Love
1:38:12 - Songs: Ready for This
1:40:29 - Songs: More Than Anything (Reprise)
1:40:24 - Songs: Finale
1:43:55 - Characters: Charlie
1:46:04 - Characters: Vaggie
1:47:42 - Characters: Angel Dust
1:50:38 - Characters: Sir Pentious
1:53:06 - Characters: Alastor
1:54:46 - Characters: Husker
1:56:01 - Characters: The V's
1:57:51 - Characters: Nifty
1:58:13 - Characters: Cherry Bomb
1:58:38 - Characters: Adam & Lute
1:59:24 - Characters: Lucifer & Lilith
2:00:33 - Conclusion
2:01:15 - Outro - Розваги
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I'd like Charlie alot more if she was younger, because her personality and the way she is treated by those around her is *very* infantilising. Vaggie literally cradles and carries Charlie like she's a child.
Charlie's like 200 but acts like she's 16.
It would make her behaviour much less grating if she acted her age. It would also explain her apprehension and passivity if she was younger, as well as make her stepping up all the more impactful.
If you want a very surface level and 1 dimensional character, yeah. But her being 200 years old, acting childish but only before the meeting with heaven and her only NOW having started working on her dream and Lucifer's picture of her as a a GOTH says a lot more about her character than making her 16. Because, no. She's not naïve nor actually childish, what we see is her mask just like we see Angel Dust's mask.
@@Raven_The_Unkind Charlie wears her heart and emotions on her sleeve. There is no mask.
She's one of the few characters who is exactly how she appears to be at first glance. There is no pretense of deception when it comes to Charlie, what you see is what you get.
That's kind of the point because she's a parody of the Disney Princess archetype.
Her faith in the hotel is completely unfounded because Charlie has no reason to think it will actually work. She doesn't know about Sir Penitious' redemption so she is going off blind faith at this point.
@@PlanetZoidstar You literally see her using deception multiple time in the show and hiding her emotions, choosing kindness over actually expressing her emotions. Both with Adam in the first meeting and with Val. There is a mask and it's literally shown prominently in Episode 4 with Angel Dust in the episode all about Masks melding into who you are and back and forth. Just because it's a mask, doesn't mean it's fake.
Yes she wears her emotions on her sleeve but she also holds them back. And she's not going into redemption blindly. She said so herself in the Pilot. That kindness and forgiveness a conscious choice, that it's par for the course for redemption and that's what she believes in but also that's how you allow people to have a space for themselves to be comfortable in order to open up about their issues and fix them.
She was never really raised right and maybe cuz of her parents her maturity age different 200 years is probably nothing compared to luci and lilth
she develops more slowly than a human would, and is also extremly priviledged.
Pilot had better voice actors and better execution of Sinners especially Katie, she made me just feel like shxt with her comments, presence and so on, nobody in the show even are threatening and dont feel like they're vile and from a adult show, Val in Addict also gave more unsettling and frightening parts than in the show, nothing about him there is scary and he just comes off as a joke in many places & sxxual in a unimpressive edgelord way.
i disagree with you respectfully. valentino is supposed to represent abusers who seem to be dumb or make themselves charming and non threatening but underneath that veil they are monsters exploiting someone like angel dust. many people think abusers should look threatening or be always vile on the outside but that is not true most of abusers disguise themselves as good people lol
and tbh katie killjoy is only shown reporting some news that's mostly the screen time problem. and about the voice actots yes. while it's sad that pilot voice actors had to be replaced if vivziepop's dream was integrating broadway style current voice actors fit more in my opinion. but you can always prefer pilot cast i respect your opinion
Agreed. Pilot you could understand why the setting was hell, Amazon HH is just really GTA or someone's teenaged warped version of California. And to piggyback off of your comment about Val, he does suck, thought him and Vox were going to be the shows' more sinister and vile antagonists but nope they're goofy just like everyone else. Seriously, are these characters suppose to be adults? Everyone acts like they're 15. And for people saying that Val is suppose to represent abusers, y'all he is a PIMP. A man that profits off of prostitution! He is not some silly loser boyfriend who's a man-child, he's a pimp. You talk to any person who has/is prostituted guaranteed they would absolutely NOT point at Valentino and say "yep that's how my pimp was" 😅 it's sad how misconstrued this show is and gets away with it
@@user-gm5of3vr1bI feel like that’s just a cop out though, val being “realistic” doesn’t make him any more threatening, and the “threatening” scenes with him feel very basic at best. I think the problem is that suddenly after season 1 of helluva boss viv decided that all the people in hell are just good people now who never do anything wrong and the show suffers a lot from it. It’s weird when people in “hell” are more supportive than people in actual real life. I get that they’re probably trying to push the angels as the real threats but the show feels all over the place as a result, not to mention that nothing bad ever really happens to the main cast, every bad thing that happens gets fixed in the next scene with the exception of angel dust, but even then he doesn’t face any repercussions for harassing husk, it feels like there are no stakes, it’s your basic fairy tale where you can tell everyone is gonna get their happily ever after.
@@mrpersonn4200 three are hellborns that can called good, but sinnerand most of hellborna are shutty people, just because first ones didn't care about their actions and what it come with it, second just doesn't know better. There always would be exceptions, because world isn't black and white, its a grey color that sometimes more white, or more black.
As for Charlie about Angels not making mistake "You really think that" being said by her and her expression says everything. He's literally saying to the daughter of THE angel who made the biggest mistake, that they don't make mistakes. And then Lute quickly swoop in, not letting it become a conversation
I love hazbin, but there’s SO MUCH that can be improved
The livestreams should give us info that isn’t important to the show. World building, lore, and characters should be explained in the show, whereas dumb stuff like a character’s favorite color, zodiac, or whatever can be in the livestreams.
Save the important info for the show
Lucifer sends Charlie because when she talked about her relationship with her, she explicitly says that he only calls if he needs something or if he's bored. Given she's not just Princess but also Heir even though Lucifer is immortal, it implies that Charlie is being prepared to rule over Hell and so then with what she says, it's clear he sends Charlie to do his job, given it's also quite obvious through context that Lucifer doesn't want to rule
The thing with Hazbin Hotel is that it is executed as a show that can give you a good laugh here and there and is geuninely a good show just to listen to. But the plot and writing at times makes zero sense.
How so
@@batim_b5815 the writing is absolutely terrible but everything else can be enjoyed it’s kinda like a Rick and Morty episode doesn’t make sense but still enjoyable to watch when zoning out / background noise
@@Zenith3264No I enjoy the writing but it's not really all that funny imo feel like that could be worked on there's lots of things to enjoy in the show
@@batim_b5815 I mean for me its hard for me to actually pay attention to the writing because theres just so much missings parts / plot holes but the animation, humor (at times) and, soundtrack are all great though
my thoughts: i think while charlie seems to have not contributed to redemption directly but she definitely created an environment where sinners can interact with each other closely not for crimes but with friendship and bond. like imagine if there was no charlie. sir pentious will get killed by vaggie's spear immediately. the reason why sir pentious stayed at the hotel in the end of 2nd ep was because of charlie's forgiveness and acceptance. if charlie never brought alastor husk will not be there to help and understand angel dust
if charlie did not recruit angel he will have to constantly go to val more than current situation. sure he still goes to val for work but at least the fact that hotel's owner is morningstar family presumably made vox stop val from doing stupid things etc go to hotel and force angel dust back. and tbh while charlie's development will seem small but i think her development will be slow burn. you will not notice difference or development of her character until the end of season or even at the end of series. she not only learns how important it is to not cross personal boundaries but tried not to make same mistakes by not forcing angel dust back and even admitted and recognized her mistakes. she relies on violence for protection of sinners instead of just sticking to the plan of persuading heaven after realizing heaven's hypocrisy. i think the reason why charlie seems to be portayed as weaker than adam is because she never used her magic or fought for violence so it makes sense. i think charlie's full childhood backstory is not revealed yet so we will definitely slowly learn her past involving etc being sheltered because of protection of lucifer or lilith and even how she came up with redemption.
Yea... Vivzie had no say in the episode count, unlike her other show, helluva boss
@moeheil8839, She wouldn’t have been allowed to have any ultimate say cuz A24 is not a fan of her writing. 😂
Vizi made helluva boss
@@alexakroon-canning2578 and helluva doesn't have rushed pacing
@@moeheil8839 You really believe that?
@@kingdingaling6516 I KNOW that, how long did it take from Ozzies till Blitzø and Stolas to actually talk?
Charlie being a flat/static character doesn’t work cuz these characters need to have the truth but the problem is she doesn’t have the truth and the story has shown this multiple times and she’s only right when the plot demands it so no she can’t stay static it would work naive characters I are inherently design to change also Charlie is an idiot 3 of the most powerful people in the show who tell her the truth about how things work with logic who has far more experience then her & she doesn’t have an argument against she’s going off of possibility not probabilities which isn’t good for a business.
and to add,i'm personally excited for season 2 because vivziepop confirmed she will put sir pentious' backstory when he was alive and some of other characters' backstory
she also implied the rule of death in hell will be more clarified etc what happens when sinners kill each other or when angels kill sinners. charlie's voice actress erika henningsen also gave hints that charlie will get depressed or feel more confliced and we will get a song based on that story and her voice will be much more different than her usual happy voice in that song.i hope the pace of show gets slowed down a little bit by making the numbers of episode or running time of each episode a little longer and give us world buildings as said in the interview. if you want to know where i got this information it is from ladie's night collider.i will give you a link
Hopefully if it did well enough, they'll bump it up to a full 12 episode season like most series are now.
Don't expect it to not be rushed like with Season 1.
29:44 I mean, they are adults, so some maturity is expected from them. So why wouldn't they be able to get pass Sir Pentius mistakes?
39:12 I think their relationship definetely had reached a breaking point. At that point, Husk didn't like Angel at all, because for the past months, Angel has been harassing him at every chance. It wasn't 'Angel flirting and Husk not responding well', it was sexual harassment. Even Vaggie says it. So of course Husk finally lost it and started screaming at him, until Angel says in what kind of situation he is and Husk begins to relate to him. That's why Husk opens up and tells him about his own situation with Alastor, and sings Loser baby, because they've reach a middle ground where they relate and understand each other.
42:40 I think that's the point. We know Alastor and Charlie don't really interact that much and tha they definitely aren't nearly close enough to have a parent daughter relationship. But Lucifer doesn't know that. And Alastor is literally lying and using his knowledge of Charlie to try and keep them from reconciling.
44:02 The song was about Lucifer bragging and Alastor trying to upstage him. Charlie was just a tool for them to fight over and see who was better.
44:32 Maybe he wanted a more personal take on Alastor from a close friend of his.
46:21 I took it as Charlie trying to make Lucifer feel bad, honestly. Like when you're mad and try to hurt the other person. I don't think Charlie actually thinks Alastor believes in her dream. I think she says something about it in ep 7. But Alastor IS helping her and she's just saying anything to convince Lucifer to help her too. She's hurt and mad with Lucifer.
47:49 That would be pretty cool.
54:05 I found it interesting that even Sera asks Adam to say what it takes to get into heaven. Like, how would he know? The angels AND SERA created him, they should be telling him why.
54:15 In heaven's defence, even if they knew what it takes to get into heaven, it would be what it takes for a human in earth to get there in their afterlife. The sinners Charlie is trying to help have already lived, already died and already passed divine judgement, how would anyone begin to know how you get a soul that has been living in hell for years and have already been judged into heaven all of a sudden. What Charlie is asking for is something impossible (at least until ep 8), like wanting to make humans fly when they just can't.
57:30 There has been a lot of cannibals during human history, to be fair. I'm gonna say they were cannibals in life.
57:55 I think she would still be considered an angel, but not holy or divine anymore. Like Lucifer is still an angel, as in that is his species. If Vaggie is a heavenborn and was never human, then yeah, even when fallen, they would not stop being an angel. The same way sinners don't stop being human in hell.
59:36 I didn't interpret the song that way. To me it felt that Carmilla was saying that fighting to not lose someone you care about is the only way you fight with all you have. That, to be fair is her point of view, is not set in stone. I took Vaggie getting her wings back as her finally accepting that part of herself, since it was said in previous episodes that she hated herself.
1:08:20 Because Lucifer would not interfere with the exterminations as long as they didn't involve his daughter. Once Adam was about to kill her, he came and went only after Adam. I think a big part of their relationship is that Charlie doesn't like to ask her father for things tho. Is not really surprising.
1:09:41 I think the funniest thing is that every sinner IS Adam's descendant. Like, he was right, he did start everything on earth. I find so funny that Charlie always is like "my people" when Charlie is the daughter of literally the two people in hell that are not related to humans. She's not relate to them at all, Adam is and yet, Adam wants to kill them. With that in mind, it does feel like Charlie is trying subconsciously to fix her parents mistake.
You say everything we were thinking but couldn’t say
However, people have a gripe with the story book introduction because Charlie specifically is reading it, implying that she knows all of this, which then makes the scenes where Charlie is trying to explain her idea to fix overpopulation in hell contradictory.
i also think when she stopped adam's punch she unconsciously did that and that's not even her full power. the fact that you have insane power doesn't mean you can also utilize that power well without experience. i think charlie will grow much stronger throughout the series
My main problem with the eden story that i havent seen ppl talk about
Is that its presented as a story that charlie has in hell and seeing how lucifer seems to want his daughter to like him and see him as a good guy that u are left wondering if this story is fake or at least is changed to make lucifer and lilith seem good
Like free will is to make ur own choice and adam eve made a choice against what they were told by eating the apple and itll make a wayy more sense if the story that charlie knew was fake
i admit this fandom can be toxic at times. i can understand some fans overreacting to criticism because this series has also a lot of haters harassing fans calling them dumb or even evil just for liking the show. and there were some genuine haters blindly and obsersively emphasizing only bad aspects of show even treating this as same as velma and calling their reviews objective. i think fans need to accept fair criticism like you have on this video AND also haters should not harass or bully fans for the sake of god
And Vivziepop needs to actually listen to those criticism instead of looking for negativity in every corner. The sooner she starts taking accountability for her own shortcomings and actually strive to do better, the less toxic the fandom will hopefully become. But of course, they're just dreams, so don't expect it to happen at all. The less she makes a fool out of herself, the less haters she has.
@nevaehhamilton3493 tbh recently vivziepop never engaged with refuting every criticism trending for a while so there might be hope but idk if that means she realized something. but even before vivziepop was hated by people because of her writing there were already hatedom and these days this toxic fans and haters' obseesive and unnecessary hate and valid criticism of people who are or were fans are mixed together so much that we can't distinguish them. that's the saddest part. people sometimes have to let go of the show and move onto another show but they enjoy harassing and even sending death threats to fans and artists and call it a day which is the saddest part.
I remember when i first watched the pilot, i was absolutely in love with the fandom. I was incredibly disappointed by the show, how it just sped through everything, no real emotion out of it. Ig the strongest thread that has me attached to it the most ever since the beginning has been the worldbuilding. Especially how sinners who die end up being a self actualised oc of themselves, its awesome.
I still love vivziepops work despite the writing flaws i just like the animation style and most of the songs are very good 👍 👌
So I am sure someone already told you that, but.... no Sinners cannot die by default, at least not permanently. Apparently unless an angelic weapon is used, they will have their body destroyed but just (painfully) respawn over time. I know that because it's on the wiki, but seeing so many reviewers not knowing makes me realize "Holy shit, this really is info that should have been in the show." Seriously, they should have done something like showing a Sinner respawning or even kill a main character only to have him return later and comment that returning is a pain or something. Not even any need for an exposition dump....
... Aaand I just realized they did that with Velvet. My bad. Still, some extra moments could have helped.
interesting point i noticed is if you pay attention to ep 1's lucifer intro story lucifer also knows how to use sparkling firework power in the background
I definitely didn't notice that! The background details in the show are honestly fantastic
@afterplague i agree if you listen closely to background music in the intro part you can also know it's the same melody of more than anything
Charlie shows Angel because he's her first choice, she says exhibit A, showing that she has multiple people to talk about. Adam highjacks everything which is why Charlie seems unprepared. And the show, shows you that she didn't expect him to be there in the first place.
Okay dude dont you have anything better to do than comment so fucking much to a UA-camr which gave her opinion on something she enjoys like dude give her some fucking credits
@@bluebear6941 I'm not bashing her or anything? I'm giving constructive feedback while watching the video
@Raven_The_Unkind You are literally typing comments an absurd number of times, that's spam and she very likely does not like you just posting comments soooo much.
@artistanthony1007 the fact that you are engaging eith him proves that he's effective. Who's the fool now?
@@colvamoon6962 lol I'm honestly confused at the hostility
The show is fine, but there is a LOT of room for improvement. I think the main problem is that they had a short amount of episodes so they had to squeeze in so many new characters and rush a lot of things like character. One thing I do like a lot is the songs tho
Great video its nice to see more ppl bring that the lives streams while fun aren't helpful to the audience and kinda hurt the show if you havent done your homework
Also heavily agree i miss pilot Alastors more Theatrics moments its the small things that really make a character stand out ❤
This is an interesting take. Someone who considers it a bad show but genuinely loves it.
I think it’s like how people enjoy fast and furious movies. They not critically very good, but they’re enjoyable!
I'm the exact same way honestly
But I just genuinely have an unironic enjoyment for it I don't think its anywhere near bad in the slightest
same, I love it and I think it’s actually very well done- it’s always nice to see people really enjoy the show without immediately taking to slander even if they have a more negative opinion on it
I was expecting this review to be really negative, but thank god I was wrong after I watched your 2 hour long review.
I've watched MANY reviews of Hazbin Hotel and it is really clear that this show is far from perfect, but is nowhere near unbearable. Most say that the talent and creativity is there, it's just that the limited amount of episodes to tell a big storyline was rushed as hell and it just leads to everything being undercooked. That's what I'm really hoping that Season 2 has more episodes and actually slows itself down to actually let the audience take a breather on what is happening on screen.
With that said, I enjoyed Hazbin Hotel for the horrendous mess that it is. The writing leaves a lot of things to be desired, but everything else from the animation, songs, voice acting, and characters is what makes me enjoy the show. I always like to look at every core element when it comes to showcasing my thoughts on media. I don't like to be negative when it comes to media, so I try to find positives in something good or bad. I am a fan of this show, but I'm someone who does acknowledge its many flaws and how individuals who aren't a fan of the franchise might not be into it. Even if sitting through many different critiques of Hazbin Hotel has been rather difficult for me to continue with myself being a fan, I always just give out my thoughts on the show whether it is on a positive/negative review and move on with my day.
Angel Dust is my favorite character in the series. I just adore every second he is on screen. The way he develops as a character was great, but I wished to see his development. What I like about Angel is that deep under that mask of confidence and lust, he is deep down a very sweet guy who is suffering immensely by the hands of Valentino. His reasonings that he has to wear this mask to cope with the pain and shield away his vulnerability is very sad to witness of him that I really wished to see more of him if the first season had more freaking episodes! He is a sweetheart who cares for the ones around him as Anthony, but due to the contract he has with Valentino, he needs to act like a nobody just to survive in his afterlife. Angel Dust to me is a character that I adore so much that I wished the show itself gave him the time to actually showcase that he is a changed person since the beginning. His spotlight episode, Episode 4 is my favorite episode of the season because it felt more personal and character driven and it is different compared to the plot heavy episodes. Learning about Angel for who he is as a character, his relationships with Charlie and Husk were very nicely presented, the duo of songs are the best in the season, and it makes me emotionally feel bad for Angel when he gets abused by Valentino. If the first season was more like Episode 4, then the show would've been less of a mess without having to make the season way too ambitious if it was only given 8 episodes.
Hazbin Hotel to me is an enjoyable mess of a show that I can't help, but not hate it for what it is trying to be. A lot has got to be desired, but I enjoy watching despite it all. Overall, I was expecting this review to be mostly negative, but I'm glad that there were some positivity to round it up in this long video that I let myself watch.
vivziepop said some details of pilot is not canon but its main event is canon so i'm assuming they changed lucifer calling her failure to disagreeing with her plan and probably said harsh about her project but not herself.
Every ruler has been made softies including Ozzie and Bee, no shxt she changed that and Lucifer was loving, that's what I hate about these shows, Viv can't stick with them representing evil and bad things.
@artistanthony1007 whatever. although i disagree i can see your point and respect that. vivziepop still made mammon who is faithful to a sin of greed and the rest of sins seem to show good sides of what we thought as a sin. for example pride of one's own family, physical love with agreement and happiness caused by eating food and drinks etc. you can dislike the show and leave your opinion respectfully like this comment and i truly appreciate that you did it
The pilot had a nigh-perfect premise, with janky visuals. The actual show has a janky premise with good visuals 😂
Alaster died in 1933, not the 20s
Died in 1933? Welcome back, Third Reich!
That's not what the show says so that info wouldn't be known unless some fan like you would tell what it is.
@@artistanthony1007 and I did tell you, so your welcome
Yeah it is 1933, I’m just guessing he’s more centred around the 20s because he only got to live for three years in the 30s
Wouldn’t radio be dead by the 1950s?
Or morally advanced?
I don’t know
But apparently he was alive for the stock market crash
Lucifer made a deal with Heaven that only sinners would be exterminated, the immortals like Charlie were supposed to be spared as per that deal. Adam threatened to kill Charlie while Lute killed Dazzle in the battle which broke the deal allowing Lucifer to finally step in.
We are gonna have a longgg talk on the stream about some stuff :))) prepare your cheese
2:26 Big Mouth is produced by Titmouse Inc., not Bento Box.
I heard your first sentence and agreed immediately. Guess I'm here for two hours lol
“Hazbin Hotel is a bad show.” You said it, sister. You said it so easily too because it’s the truth! 😂
It's honestly not that crazy of an idea to grasp. I mean look at those shitty horror movies. Nobody are watching them for the plot or the writing. It's just what people see that get people interested. Same thing here. Hazbin Hotel is a great show to get a good laugh in and just to zone out even though half it doesn't make sense.
So, you drew and talked at the same time?!
Cool
@@deliavazquez9095 i do a lot more of that on my Twitch ;) (twitch.tv/AfterPlague)
Nah, it's good.
Gonna come back once I watched the show
Angel dust is a writers u can take him out the show and it would probably be better he’s gay quagmire but he’s not funny along with the fact the writers can’t situation like this good
Hazbin Hotel is great
41:23 How DARE you not include the “take that depression” bit
Its funny how rabid the fanbase is because every critical peice about the show feels like it has to talk down to them about how were not saying your bad for liking it. Why bother with it look at the comments its all salty fans still 😂
Yea
For the Charlie segment, it's pretty straight forward and the shows, shows you. It's also portrayed very realistically. From Charlie's side, she has as much authority as she's willing to exert and we already know that she really doesn't like to exert her authority and never makes her being a princess be a big deal about her, except as a joke, if she has to or cus Adam really pissed her off.
For others, she has as much authority and presence as they themselves believes she does. Val is very cordial because he most likely perceive her as a threat, Katie doesn't because it's her own view. Charlie pretty much tells you she never calls her dad and she has to be pushed to do so when she needs it. She literally does not like using her powers, both politically and magically and she's also too nice to be using her own father for her own gain until pushed. Therefore, nobody would be scared of her father if they do something to her cus he'd never even know. Some are much less scared than others. You talked about show don't tell, it is shown and not told.
The only good thing I liked about this show was Adam, he hard carried season 1 for me at least.
Now that Vivzie confirmed he’s not coming back after all the Sinner Adam hype I’m not gonna bother with this show anymore lmao
The main group themselves suck and are not interesting to say the least
The plot felt rushed and speedy
Not to mention Vivzie herself gets herself into countless drama
I am done with Hazbin Hotel in general
The songs are great, but the writing is… erm… something… and Charlie might be a Mary Sue of some kind…
i enjoyed your review btw
I really appreciate your comments and insight. I agree that I was probably a little too harsh about Charlie not helping the sinners be redeemed. You made some excellent points. I'm also really excited for season two, and the info you gave me about their future plans for season two definitely builds up some hype for me!
@@afterplaguethank you
Pretty good review. I watched it all the way BTW lol
Vaggie is still an Angel, being fallen doesn't make you not an Angel and the show kinda shows that with Lucifer given he was able to hurt Adam bare handed. The show is actually very consistent on the rules of how to hurt an angel. Angels can hurt angels, weapons just have the same property as Angels, it's why the Exorcists hurt their head on Alastor's magic shield, because the shield is not moving, they are hitting it. It's why Lute hurts Vaggie with a table and so on. Also the implication they don't know and Carmilla having been cornered but only killing 1 Angel, is again something shown but not told. Vaggie was fallen the moment she spared 1 sinner. Adam and Lute not knowing who killed that Angel shows us that any failure has HARSH consequences, they fled for their lives and if they spoke up, they would have been harshly punished. Also Alastor did not do any damage on Adam, when they say "Hurt angels" they mean kill, you can hurt an angel without Angelic Steel as a demon but not injure or damage them.
Charlie isn't weak and did not fight full force from the start because she's a pacifist and doesn't want to hurt people, this isn't what she wanted. She's constantly holding back. We know she has powerful fire and explosive powers and so on, but all she uses is anon angelic trident. She hesitated and gave him a chance after stabbing him because that's who Charlie is. Vaggie spares Lute because yes she killed a bunch of angels but they weren't even a fight. It's either she swings and they die or they don't even approach her. Lute lost the fight and was pinned. Vaggie is one of the people Charlie redeemed, that's the whole point of Vaggie's character, feeling she's worth nothing beside being Charlie's protector and now she fights for love. And Lucifer is late, we don't know why bit it most likely has to do with his severe depression. It could actually very much be him just waking up too late.
I don't think Sera will be a villain, a reluctant antagonist though, yes. Every single time Lucifer's fall is brought up. Sera is excluded from the equation. In the prologue which is diegetic because it's a book Charlie actually has. Sera isn't portrayed as part of the Elders that judged him, only portrayed as one of the angels that started humanity and also looking down in shame over the exorcist. If it's a book Charlie has which talks about her at the end. This is written by someone in hell, most likely her parents. Why would they portray Sera being in shame of agreeing? Just like you constantly see her regret on her face in the Hearing. Then we see in Lucifer's song, Sera isn't one of the Seraphim that pulled spears on him. Then in the Hearing, she talks about Emily's potential fall, not that she would fall him. And lastly. How can Lucifer get Charlie to meet someone in Heaven if he's banned? Sera is indeed the ruler of Heaven, she's based on Seraphiel in Judeo-Christian scripture, the leader of the Seraphim and described as Tall as the 7 Heavens, which is why she's so tall. Now, how can someone banished be able to get his daughter to meet the Ruler? Cus his connection to Heaven IS Sera. That's why she's willing to hear Charlie in the first place.
Well if the theory which idk if its confirmed or not its true that Lucifer was a seraphim himself and we only saw another seraphim other than sera which is Emily her younger sister. What if Lucifer if the younger brother of Sera and he feels betrayed getting kicked by his own sister which you said is the ruler of heaven which means she definitely had a vote in it. And Lucifer has meetings with heaven all the times like the one in the first episode which Charlie went to cause Lucifer couldn’t. There is one thing to get banned there is something else to get completely ignored by heaven after. They made a deal too for the extermination not to kill hellborns
@@bluebear6941 angels with 6 wings is the big physical trait of what a Seraph is in Judeo-Christian lore. Of course she had a say in the vote though, my point was that because of the visuals and context, Sera didn't fall him, she was most likely the only one against the fall but 6 vs 1 wins in favor of fall
From one Hazbin fan to another, maybe put all of your comments into one instead of making a new comment for every point you have to make? Would be a lot more organized that way imo
@@Bexided I was making comments as the info came in the video, also most people don't read giga wall of texts in comments ^^'
Musics good
For Razzle and Dazzle, they could have been given to her before they had a falling out
I don't know... I think Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss are good. I like the music personally. I like all the stories... I have to say it's better than Cartoon Network and what they are doing. I will be bashing cartoon network... not all cartoons have to be kid friendly... I think cartoons/anime in this era like Spawn the Anime are actually what cartoon needs like Archer!, Futurama!, Samurai Jack.
Well. You have to admit that some of the writing and plot points can be writen terribly. I love the show (just finished watching it) and I think the songs, animation and the acting was on point. And sometimes that's all you really need you don't need a show that makes you need to think and I think Hazbin executes that idea perfectly (even though that was not the intention)
The thing about the scene where Husk spells it out to everyone and Charlie refusing to use her power. You say the show should let us come to the conclusion, but it does, Vaggie having little to no self worth given she makes her entire worth being Charlie's protector shows that she hates herself. Charlie be so unwilling to use her power speak to her character that YES it is performative, just like Angel Dust, but it's not fake. Charlie doesn't like to use her powers because she believe in freedom, absolute freedom, just like her father, but also. She doesn't really particularly want to be treated like anything but just Charlie. The only time she introduces herself as Princess is either a joke or because she HAS to, otherwise, she never tell anyone her last name or title, only just Charlie.
And it is performative because Charlie is overcorrecting. You can tell many time, when kindness doesn't work, she goes to manipulation and when that doesn't work, explosive anger. She also swears like someone that uses to swear a lot but is making an effort not to, which is why it mainly only comes out when she's excited or angry. She's also much too quick to go from bubbly to serious and being able to take charges seriously for Charlie to just actually be a one dimensional bubbly ditz. Being happy and kind is who she is but also, we know due to a picture in Lucifer's room, that she was Goth. She's also over 200 years old and she's only NOW doing this even though it's always been her dream. As Katie Killjoy says "Brand new" passion project. Charlie's being doing a lot before which we don't know.
It's performative because hell affected her just as much as the others and she pulled herself back out and is not trying to help people. She's even more quick to anger than Vaggie, who's characterized by being done with everyone's shit. It's all there. It's being told to us a bit in a natural organic way to confirm is
The Pilot's events are canon, not the visuals. The Song, Chasing rainbows and her voice message with Lilith implies that Lucifer called her a failure. They most likely had a huge fight over the extermination to the point that Charlie left and he thought he couldn't come back. It also circle back to Freedom, Charlie will not use someone unless she really has to because using someone is a pretty negative thing to do, that's why she said it herself, she never asked him anything before and this is the most important thing she ever did.
Great video
I bet the show is woke aswell
Hazbin Hotel is a golden masterpiece it's way better than most adult shows including the stupid Velma Show Hazbin Hotel has better characters better story better pacing and it's a musical I like musicals and I like the Characters of Hazbin Hotel and I like Charlie she's my favorite character and seriously far too many adult shows have selfish ungrateful characters who are mean 24 7 to each other all the time Charlie x Vaggie is my favorite Character Couple and I'm excited for Angel Dust x Husk too
Adam is my favorite villain and I consider him a dark reflection of Charlie and who Charlie could've become if she didn't have her friends girlfriend and father there for her to help her out.
I'm also excited to see the new Hazbin Hotel Seasons especially Hazbin Hotel Season 2
Also unlike most other adult shows Hazbin Hotel tackles serious issues.
The hell you mean better pacing everything is rushed?
Why do you want to be told about Double Death when you're asking to not be told about everything and you literally come to your own conclusion which you say you should in an adult show and you literally put your finger on the rules. Sinners cannot permanently die without being killed by Holy Light, whether it's from an angel or an angelic weapon. Sinners regenerate slowly. Hellborns can be killed through normal means except high ranking Hellborns and no one in hell can kill Charlie besides her family because she's third strongest in hell. You answered your own question. The stakes are that if Charlie doesn't protect them, she loses everyone while she's left behind alive. And that if a sinner regular dies, they take a while to regenerate and the Extermination of all Sinners.
Well Charlie can die and i believe that she is even weaker than the Sins. Plague just has a lot of questions that aren’t answered in the show and you have to do extra research for which a casual watcher that enjoyed the show wont do
@@bluebear6941 fair but I doubt she's weaker than the sins when Viv has released an official hierarchy and Charlie is second only to Lucifer
@@Raven_The_Unkind yeah but at the save time she said that the sins are ranked on power based on where their ring is placed yet Asmodeus is still considered the weakest Sin. Maybe Charlie just has the potential to be as strong as that but isnt
@@bluebear6941 Wait, she did? When did she say the sins were ordered by power? As for Charlie, I personally really don't think so. To me it comes off as, she appears weaker because she's unwilling to use power.
@@Raven_The_Unkind she doesn’t have that “kill to protect” mindset which makes her weaker. Not wanting to kill while your opponent has nothing against it will make you weaker. And if Charlie was so powerful and knew she was powerful i doubt she would have needed Alastors help
A single conversation can solve years of their issues because Charlie is characterized as Unconditional Forgiveness. She just needs time, she also has a lot of difficulty to hold a grudge and you can see that she's forcing herself to hold it, but also that she's ready to forgive. We do not yet need to know what the exactly thing that happened was, because the Extermination being part of it is enough for this current story in the season. You have the proof with Vaggie later. She doesn't even talk with Vaggie and she even gets the shrunken head gift before even talking with Rosie
It means nothing since before she didn't know actions speak louder than words after Rosie said that then gave Vaggie the thing
Still it was hypocritical how Charlie acted with Vaggie I'm sorry but Vaggie deserves better...
and unconditional forgiveness ha she maybe letted Adam alive but she didn't forgive how attacked Charlie's family
Nor she didn't forgive Valentino even if he was a horrible (and I fully doubt she will forgive him)
The claim about Charlie's "conditional forgiveness" is unsubstantiated. Rather, on the contrary, my argument showed that:
- Charlie gives second chances selectively, often on her own terms and interests.
- She forgives selfishly, but not unconditionally, (maybe to Sir Pentious it was genuinely who knows) as the examples with Lucifer or Vaggie showed.
- Her "forgiveness" is often not expressed empathically, but rather selectively according to her own goals.
So your counterargument again does not bring new facts. In contrast, my assessment was based on specific examples from the plot that show the selectivity and conditionality of Charlie's approach, not the unconditionality. I think that this is again not a rational exchange of observations, but rather a defense without substantiation.
I'm sorry but you protect Charlie too much
The plot of the show has more holes than a shooting range. The script is dog water despite the best attempt of some of the good voice actors. The timing between the episodes is too rushed. And topics like assault can't be taken seriously or are made into a stupid joke.
about them bleeding when slamming into the sheild, theyre wearing masks, its very possible the masks have a strong impact on their face and cause bleeding
It has Disney vibes because the premise is literally Disney princess in Hell that swears