2021 Pivot Trail 429 Test Ride & Review: Best Climber Ever?
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
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Please join me Tuesday, March 16th at 8:30 PM MST here on UA-cam for a live stream Q&A where we'll answer all your question and comments about this incredible new offering from Pivot Cycles!
Should I hold out for a Trail 429 or just get the in stock Ripley? Thanks for all the great videos.
What do you think about the enduro build with a DPX2 and fox 36 140mm.
@@brad1246 I placed an order for a new Ripley a couple of months ago and was almost ready to cancel and get the new 429 but by the end of the video I felt good about my decision. The Ripley is a little more "poppy" and the 429's cockpit is a little too big. To each his own. Don't think we'd go wrong with either. And once you get your new bike, you'll love love love it! Good luck.
@@harizavdic4893 I'm looking at that build or the team xtr with the fox 34. I'd like some insight and actual weights. Thoughts?
Yumyum great review as always!! Only thing you didn't touch on was they make an enduro version of this bike...they throw a fox 36 and you get 140mm and a dpx2. I would like to see ya get your hands on that one and compare the 2 as I think the enduro edition will hit exactly in what people will be looking for in a do it all bike. Awesome job as always!
Planning on talking more about this in the live stream Tuesday evening!!
Awesome ride review! Thanks for putting this together. Looking forward to the Q&A on Tuesday!
That's where this S#!& gets real!! It's not for everyone lol Thanks for making cool bikes!
Best reviewer out there, by far, and I try and watch most of them! And I love my Pivot 5.5, BTW...
His reviews are a big reason I'm riding a Trail 429 Pro now... (which I love btw)
I"m still riding one of the original 429c with the curvy tubes. Having tried many other bikes the thing just fits me wonderfully and is a joy to ride. I have some extra bikes for friends and every time I trade with them and let them ride the Pivot they seem to like it more too. One of the better investments I've made.
Fantastic review as always. I'm glad you said 66 degree is the sweet spot HTA. People are too obsessed with slacker is better. 66-66.5 is such a great HTA for keeping it fast on the ups and down on short travel bikes.
Even on bikes that are longer. I ride my Switchblade in the high (66.5) head angle and it handles very well. It turns in fast and still stable at speed. It’s more stable on the low position, not arguing that but unless you are always over 30mph.. The high position makes the bike so snappy on turn in while still being very stable at the high speeds. If I was ridding park with minutes of 25 mph I would ride it in the low, but for trail ridding the high handles better in my opinion.
Bingo! Thanks for sharing!!
Yep! Plan on talking more about this in the live stream Tuesday evening!! Not sure why so many bike companies are turning every freaking bike into a enduro ready bike with these too steep sta
Jason has the best reviews. He sold me on the Ripley, which i loved. Then he sold me on the Switchblade, which I love more. Now I’m going to have to buy a T429 as well!! Wife is gonna kill me. 🤦♂️
haha James, what you dont know is how much I secretly love spending other peoples money haha !! Glad you're loving your bikes. Such a good time to be a mountain biker!! Thank you!
Awesome 👏🏾
Awesome bike awesome reviews dude , so happy to see you on the different bikes !!
I think the guys at REVEL BIKES are gonna be like “ Godang it guys we need to re-design the Ranger , the Rascal and the Rail and no ones going home until we’re done “ haha 😂 🤣🤣👍🏾👍🏾🙌🏽🙌🏽!!
Just tell her it's so she has more to choose from when she wants to join you 😉
your reviews are truely the best in the world. I agree that the 66 degree headtube angle, and 75 degree seattube angle is the "magic" trail numbers.
Thanks Mike. Yeah, for a get it all done, do everything trail bike, those geo numbers are dialed!! Join us for the live stream Tuesday evening!!
This bike is a dream. I just spent a few days on it in southern Utah and everything Jason said about it true. It climbs amazing and descends so well. It looks amazing in person.
Mike, glad you like the bike and thanks so much for the support calling Chris and ordering your bike from Salt Cycles!!!
Who else was Waiting for this review..
haha wish I could have got it to you guys earlier but dang.... life happens! Glad I was able to get it uploaded today. Plan on Weekly Sunday videos moving forward!! Also, Live Stream Tuesday evening!!
I had a MAJOR breakthrough this morning, my wife was asking questions about a new bike hint I dropped, and I played this at the breakfast table (my major win). I wish I could have recorded her commentary 😂😂 “Is this an advertisement??” or “that looks dangerous”..
haha!
I’d like to see you review the Evil Following
Every new bike its my new dream bike!!! Crazy!!!
haha
I'm flipping the coin this week since I still can't decide between the Ripley and the Trail 429. I guess I will end up going with the best deal I can get! Thanks for the reviews.
I would for sure call Chris at Salt Cycles... 801-943-8502 he will beat any deal out there on either bike... that said, these two bikes are pretty different. T429 is more stable, better traction and not as zippy as the ripley. ripley feels lighter weight under you while riding, quicker steering and more playful and poppy. T429 also feels a bit more stiff... Good luck!!
my lungs hurt just looking at that rocky climb 👊
He is in EXCELLENT shape, 140 pounds with endless cardio
I got to demo one this past weekend & fell in love with it! Out of my budget at the moment, but definitely on the wish list after riding it!
Great to hear!
For the entry price, it better be great. Pivot is like the luxury brand of bikes, lol
I keep watching videos on bikes in this travel range/trail bikes. I have a SB150 at the moment but as my riding has progressed a lot I’m looking for something that’s more well rounded. My SB 150 climbs great but I definitely feel it on long days. Almost as if the bike gets heavier on every lap. Watching this video definitely made me believe I won’t sacrifice much by going down in travel
Yeah, the sb150 is a lot of bike and if you're happy with the climbing... you'd loose your mind after climbing on a switchblade or even this T429.... a switchblade might be a good options to replace your sb150 and not go down to low in travel depending on your terrain and speed. Good luck!!
Do you have carbon wheels and bars? And I bet you'll really like the added stiffness of a set of eeWings cranks, you'll notice it even if you're only 150lbs.
This is a good video, I currently have a 2005 Ellsworth Moment and looking at getting a new bike next Spring (2024). I can only get one bike and was thinking about the specialized epic evo, but the 429 seems to be the best bike in the country, it’s just a lot more expensive.
Gonna enjoy watching this in a few minutes, but I won't watch a YumYum video I don't like, therefore I hit the Like button first, then watch the video 😁
haha thank you for the support!!
The 429 looks awesome! Not enough for me to get rid of my Ripley though
Don't blame ya! The Ripley and T429 are both excellent trail bikes!!!
Chris and the team at Pivot have created the ultimate trail/enduro with the 2020 and 21 429Trail
A swiss army knife for the trail
Just ordered carbo rocket because of your recommendation. Looking forward to adding it to my training and racing.
Nice. Hope you like it! I used it on any of my hard rides on the trainer as well. Good luck!
Great review, Jason. Superboost or not, this new T429 looks amazing. You can make it beefy with 36 and DPX2 or lighter with 34 and DPS. Hell, you can even run it mullet. This has moved up to the top of my list. You’ve GOT to ride that new Following. I want to hear your take on it.
Thanks. Yeah, i need to get on a Evil Following asap
@@mtbyumyum Pivot could have made the choice so much easier if they offered the T429 in that beautiful green they put on the Switchblade.
Just built myself a Ripley, copied your tire choice of the Rekon and Ardent Race, can't wait to ride it, currently waiting for the trails to dry out here in Massachusetts, thanks for the reviews
Love that tire setup! Did you end up purchasing via my link to competitive cyclist or through Chris at Salt Cycles?!
@@mtbyumyum Jason, upon your recommendation I called Salt Cycles. I left a message and no one ever returned my call. I had the same experience with 2 other cycle shops. I ended buying a Ripley from Jenson. Their rep was super responsive and punctual.
@@mtbyumyum I got the tires through your link, but not the frame, I need to remember to do that in the future for other things !!
Great video!!! really enjoy how you break down the bikes abilities. Cannot wait to receive mine...another 4-5 weeks at least. Going with the XO build, carbon wheels and Pike fork!! Wahoo.
Glad it was helpful! Congrats on the new bike!!
Quality review! Best data/info I could find online anywhere! Just got a ripley!
Awesome, thank you!
When I demoed it I thought it was so stiff. It climbed as good as you said. I didn’t think it jumped as well as the Tallboy. I loved the tire spec. I am changing my SB130 tires to the Dissector front and rear. To me that was a stand out on the bike. Fast with near minion traction. It was really fast in the corners but I noticed it got nocked of line on the off camber fast drop in lines. It might be that I have gotten used to riding a little bigger bike because I remember my stumpjumper short travel and my Tallboy would do kind of the same thing. Thanks for the review Yumyum.
Oh and I had a Tallboy 2021that was 28.8 lbs....just saying lol
Thank you for weighing in!! Yeah, for sure more stiff than the Ripley or Spur
I agree the Dissector 2.4 was the stand out (I also ride an sb130 - 2.5/2.4 DHF/DHR). Will definitely run a dissector in the future. I demoed the 429 enduro so the other standout between that and my 130 was the grip2 up front. Hard to describe, but gobs of traction is a good starting point. Other things I noticed were that the small bump compliance and amount of pedal bob on the 429 were both better than the Yeti, though both are quite good. Yeti feels lighter on its feet on both smooth and rough climbs. Both are about equal (and impressive) in tech climbing situations. 429 felt stiffer overall through fast corners and more like a plow bike over rough stuff than the 130 despite the 10mm less travel on both ends. That being said, no comparison between keeping speed through the rough - Yeti dominated that comparison, as it definitely likes to skip over the top of obstacles whereas the pivot soaks them up deeper into its travel and for me led to losing some momentum. The Yeti handles flat corners better with the correct body position. Coming from a 77* ST angle, the Pivot's 75 was noticeable, but only on very steep climbs. Normal trail riding was actually probably a bit more comfortable on the Pivot. I'm 5'11 160lbs and I definitely felt more stretched out on this bike than my Yeti (both size L). Bottomed out both F/R suspension on this bike, but they seemed to do so in unison, whereas the Yeti blows through the rear much quicker than the front with its 20mm extra travel. Overall both are stellar. People will think you're a dentist on either, so just buy the one that comes in whichever color suits your taste more.
Jason Great review as always, awesome bike for sure. Would love to see you test ride a niner Jet 9 RDo one day they’re pretty awesome bikes too.
Jason, nice review!!! I'll keep my Ripley. Super boost and more $$ (full builds starting at: $6,999) deal breaker for me! I wonder if the Ripley went super boost! Hmmm!
got it with the xx1 axs version. best bike i'll ever have! a dream bike.
Great review. With regards to the geometry conversation, remember some of us are well over 6' with long legs and 77 or 78 degree (theoretical) seattube angles are needed for us to not feel like we're sitting over the rear axle. To be fair, with Pivot's method of measuring angles and actual frame designs they do feel steeper than other bikes with similar published seat angles... otherwise, this Trail 429 is definitely a contender for most beautiful bike award in addition to all the ride qualities you speak of. thanks!
Excellent point and thanks for saying so! On some bikes I feel like my face is over the bars while seated... guess because I'm on the shorter side... and you're right, this bike is stunning!!
@@mtbyumyum Was it just an optical illusion or are the seat stays a bit more petite on the T429 vs the SB?
Holy crap...that climb before 1 minute!!!! Badass. I have a Trail 429 Enduro demo tomorrow. Super pumped to try it!
Nice, I'll be interested to hear what you think
@@mtbyumyum it was everything you said it was in a nutshell. Biggest difference between my experience and yours is that I am 100lbs heavier than you. So for me I really appreciated how sturdy the bike felt. And then just like you said, the pedaling platform on this bike is insane. I had to fight the urge to scoot forward in the saddle because I just didn’t need to. Kept the weight over the rear axle for good traction yet the front wheel still didn’t wander. What they did with the climbing ability on this bike is incredible. Downhill didn’t seem to be lacking either. Amazing engineering by Pivot. Taking out some other bikes just for good measure but this might be my next bike.
I'm curious on your thoughts between the 429 and the spur.
Let's discuss in the live steam Tuesday evening!
@@mtbyumyum Sounds good!
Dang-it, if Kevin was not in front of you Yum2 on all the those super techy climbs you would have nailed them ALL, LOL!!
Seriously, though the climbing you showed in the video was super impressive. Like other comments below I’d be keen to hear your comments at the live stream on how it compares to the Spur. DW-link is always going to win (?). Shorter WB on the 429 vs Spur = 429 more playful (?). Good point about putting lighter tyres and making the 429 lighter if that’s what a rider is after. Great vid. Super Channel. #Kudos. #mtbyumyum
Thanks for the comment! Yeah, I'll address these and more this evening! See you in the live!
Sounds like the perfect midwest shredder to me!
You should really try a Spot Ryve 115. Apparently their climbing ability is insane with the living link.
Good shots of you from rear facing camera.
Yeah, that was my buddy Kevin's idea.... thought it was awesome!
Thanks for the review! I was wondering how it compared to the spur?!
Additionally you have to demo the Following V3! You may be amazed how much more "playful" and "poppy" it is compared to all other 120 29'ers. The V3 doesn't look wildly different on paper but the minor tweaks are quite noticeable in the ride characteristics. Please give it a review if you can! Thanks
Looks like a near perfect rugged endurance bike. Hey, I use carbo rocket half evil for my long days too. Good stuff.
Grape is my go-to! Yeah, you might need to give this a try and see if it eeks out the TB4???
As always, great review!
Is there a Revel Ranger video coming?
Yes still working on the edit...
Thanks yum yum for your review just pulled the trigger awesome bike loved it
Right on! Enjoy
Thanks for this Review!! I love your channel!!
You are so welcome! Thank you!
Just rode this bike today at Santos... Insane bike!
Considering that you like geometry on that bike, you should test Trek fuel EX. It has almost same geo just 10mm more travel front and rear.
That would be good comparation.
Yeah, I think you're right.... just need to get my hands on a trek!
This bike is awesome. I can’t decide between Switchblade and 429
Yeah, both so good! Comes down to speed and terrain in my opinion. Riding style and how much you ride are also factors. Good luck!!
@@mtbyumyum I'm in the same boat. I love my Switchblade V1. Favorite trail is Zen, but mostly ride BST, around Snowbasin, etc. up here in Weber County. What would you recommend, the new switchblade or new 429?
same!
I love that color, Pivot has great bikes!
Yes they do and both colors are awesome!!
Geez, making me think about my future purchase of a Revel Rascal...
The Rascal is also a goldilocks bike... maybe a little on the heavy side and more capable than the T429 or Tallboy... similar to the Switchblade, maybe fore playful tho
I would get so lost on these trails. It's like you have to know where to go!
Thanks, I have been waiting for this one ;). Now for the hard part, convince the wife!!
Darn wives😀😀
Just say your out of town friend wants you to store it at your house until they get back - which is never :)
Dale, isn't it better to ask for forgiveness than permission :)
@@mtbyumyum haha yeah. This would be a pretty big one haha. She is still holding the SB150 I got last year over my head. Got a good deal but most trails near me don’t require that and that’s what I keep telling her :)
The bit at 1:03 is seriously difficult. I take the switchback to the right. Nicely done.
Yeah haha gopro really kills the terrain footage.
Wow! I thought you were going all Yeti recently. So........ would ya buy it? You convinced me that it's my next bike after I wear out my Gen 1 Switchblade. Granted, I've got to figure out how to wait a while before I do that, though. The wife would be lookin' at me funny.
Yeah, I would say for most people I see out on the trail, this could be the perfect bike. It's really really good! Talk more about this in the live stream on Tuesday evening!!
Thanks for the review. Always look forward to them.
You're welcome. Thank you!! Glad you like em
I need to stop watching your bike reviews... They make me want to try/buy every single bike you ride! 😅
Glad you like them! haha I always recommend people get a new bike each season if they can. Life is too short not to try new bikes, new experiences on different rides. Good luck dude!!
Very nicely done on zen! I’ve completed every technical section, but never in the same Ride- that’s hard.
Nice work... those are tough climbs!
i would be nervous on Zen on the 130/120.. i think i’d be more secure feeling on the switchblade.. i didn’t know you could ride rocks like that on a shorter travel bike!!
Awesome review. Can’t make the live steam unfortunately but was hoping to get your thoughts on how you think the enduro build would compare to the spec you rode?
Without riding, it’s hard to say. If it were me, I’d likely go w the Switchblade or the standard T429
Great video, and great climbing! 👀 How would this compare to the Transition Spur in your experience? I’m guessing the Spur is slightly snappier and faster up non-technical climbs but not quite as capable on the chunkier descending?
Please review the new Evil Following V3. I had the V1 Pivot Trail 429 and have ridden the Switchblade extensively and in my experience the Following V3 is in another universe for descending, while in the same ballpark for climbing.
@MTB yumyum - do you know any mountain bike riders (like yourself) who demo mountain bikes and create videos like you who are from the east coast or west coast? I love your videos and I take your bike advice very seriously. Utah riding is epic! I live closer to the east coast and the riding terrain here is very different. I'd be very curious on how some of these bikes you demoed ride in slippery roots, logs and loose, wet rocks in very tight up and down switchbacks. It feels like a rollercoaster sometimes out here. It is lots of tech but lots of fun! Again, thanks for your demos videos - they are extremely useful.
Thank you! Yeah, I would actually point you to this Trail 429.... I've had a number of people out east talk about how great this bike is there. I'll post a link to a dude who is an incredible rider and lives in Boston... very strong rider and would recommend you look to him for advise for your terrain. Thanks
here it is: ua-cam.com/users/DirtWireTVfeatured his name is Thom. He's a great guy and very good rider
I would love to hear how you think it compares to the Transition Spur. The setup and geometry seems so similar. Only main difference I'm seeing is the 130 fork instead of the 120. Head-tube angle is the same too.
thanks for your well done in depth reviews! Really helpful to me and folks that cant demo all the bikes you review. I thought you bought a Switchblade though? I am looking at that bike an looks like it is nearly the same geo as the 429 but more travel which i need. Are you still liking the switchblade? I will try to tune in tonight....
Glad it was helpful! Yeah, try and watch the live tonight!!
Love your videos. Definitely top 3 in MTB reviews. So I am considering the trail 429 or tallboy. I hear the tall boy’s weight feels more confident on downhills. I am a weekend rider and will do the occasional old man (beginner men’s age 47) race. I’m 6’2 175 lbs. if that matters. I’d love to have your insight. Thanks.
The Tallboy feels amazing on the descents, there's no doubt about that but I think the Trail 429 will give you that extra pep you might want racing and a lighter weight bike... if that matters to you. Honestly, the tallboy 4 always fest more like the switchblade to me.... or even the Ripmo. Just doesn't have that get up and go the Ibis Ripley and Trail 429 has. But I totally get why so many people love the tb4... I see them almost every time I ride.
Great video, Jason. Perhaps you will dive into this on Tuesday, but not a word so far on the enduro build. I find it interesting that Pivot thinks about riders that want to split the difference between the T429 and the SB, while Ibis makes you choose between the Ripley and Ripmo. I ride at just over 200 lbs, so a bit of extra stiffness and capability out of the suspension parts is always on my mind. I don’t know if you can answer, but is the T429 Enduro just a SB with a little less travel?
Without riding it I hate to weigh in too much but.... for me, if your speed is often over 25 mph, get the switchblade, if not, get the T429.... that's sort of how I look at it. That said, I have a few buddies who ride the Ripley with a Fox 36 140mm.... and I've recommended that setup to a lot of people here on YT and Instagram. We'll spend plenty of time on this in the Live Stream Tuesday evening!! Thanks for your comment!
Great now I have to sell my Ibis Ripley and get a Pivot until the next great bike comes out, thanks YumYum
Haha just keep your Ripley...
This might be my dream bike
Beautiful bike and excellent review as always. But I'll still take my custom built Ripley v4 and Ripmo v1. It's cheaper and with threaded BB and boost. I also favor agility and Ibis fits my riding style
I agree, the Ripley feels a bit more maneuverable and agile. Boost is also nice if you own other bikes at the same time! Thanks for your comment!
Pivot bikes don't fit me very well. But, what incredible bikes.
I know you are skeptical about the enduro model of this bike. But I would love to see a side by side ride comparison. Would it just peddle a little slower but give you just a little more control on the decent? Or maybe it’s just like you said “Why” When you can get a Switchblade.🙂.
Yeah... I'm totally open to being wrong about the enduro model.... a back-to-back ride with the Switchblade would be very telling.
Yeah, wondering how it compares to the v2 trail 429? I just ordered the enduro version of the v3 after demoing the v2. My take on the v2was that it was a very playful, natural feeling bike, but was a little sketchy at speed downhill. Hoping this new slacker version addresses it. But whatever, I’m still on a 2010 Fisher hi-fi! 😃
Check out the live stream.... ua-cam.com/video/NphHdV3YOLc/v-deo.html
I bought a sb130 after watching your video on a sb130, but I felt that it was too much bike for a beginner for me. I really didn't able to go that fast to really enjoy it. Now watching this video on the 429, I feel that the 429 might be a better bike for a casual rider like me. Hope to hear what advice you might have for a beginner rider like me, stick with the sb130 and work with it till I get better, or change to the 429 if it will make things easier for me.
My local trails are rocky and rooty and a lot of climbs and I ride about once a week.
ah, i just watched the live Q&A and you touched on the SB130 and i think you answered my questions. i guess the sb130 is a race bike that need more skills and fitness to really utilize it and it just takes the fun factor out for me when i ride since im not a strava warrior or looking to beat my last lap timing.
and again, thank you for your awesome reviews! cant wait for the 429 to come!
I have the 2nd generation. I need to convince myself that I don’t need a new bike lol 😂
Ride and love your bike until you find its limits! ...Or sell your current bike on Pinkbike with the high Covid resale value, and invest in a lighter, more modern whip~
It's hard not to want a new one. Pivot has stepped it up with the redesigned bikes.
Normally a new generation of bike like this isn't as polarizing.... Think Ripmo V1 to V2.... minimal changes. On this new V3 Trail 429, like the Switchblade, it's a whole new bike. It's unbelievable and well worth the upgrade!! I would list that thing on PB today, Call Chris at Salt Cycles 801-943-8502 and order your new T429 on Tuesday morning when they open at 11 am !!!
Hi Jason. Speaking of the Giant Trance, have you had a chance to demo the 2021? The Advanced pro 29 1 (non live-valve) looks good on paper and is supposed to be a great climber. Would love some feedback on that 👍 BTW, this new Trail 429 looks haaawt!!
Manny. The 2021 Giant Trance is top of the list of bikes I want to ride asap!!!
Looks like a wicked bike!
I had the first 429c when it came out, and I built it with 120mm fork...absolutely my favorite till this day. This bike definitely is on my radar for the next bike. I’m curious how the Trek Top Fuel is in comparison. I know it’s not as much travel as this but close enough to be in the mix.
Yeah, it's been a minute since I last rode a Fuel EX and I've yet to ride a Top Fuel..... this new bike is tough to beat!!
@@mtbyumyum from looking at the way you ride, this might be your next bike 😉 ...do try out the enduro build. New to your channel here. Very nice work 😊👍🏼
great review! what made you decide on buying the Ripley again?
Did he say he bought a Ripley again?
@@eysikal on Instagram he has been showing it off
@@juandepedro8143 Really? I don't do Instagram. Thank you!!
After a few days on the Trail 429, I rode the Ripley again and it's just feels for me, a little softer, the Light Traction Tune on the Ripley is really really nice for a lighter weight rider. I will 100% talk more about this in the live stream Tuesday evening!! See you there!
@@mtbyumyumI weight 140-145 lbs. What is the light traction tune, and would that be something I should look at? Thanks!
Great video dude!! You really need to check out the Following V3. Be curious to see your thoughts. Descends better then the Tallboy imo.
it's on my list!! Evil is sort of hard to find in my area
@@mtbyumyum you're the man!! Keep up the great content 🍻
Thank you!
Would love to see review of the new Evil Following and Offering.
Demoed the ripley, switchblade, yeti and pivot 429 enduro. Weighed it and the enduro is one pound more. For same size and adjustments the ripley is a steeper seat tube angle and my hands and arms were sore. Too steep for me riding 5-6 times a week at 5 10. The plushness with the enduro fox 36 is so much better. NO brainer for one pound that is night and day better on descents, flats, and bumpy climbs. Tiny sacrifice uphill for all around better geometry for me. The ripley chatter was rough consecutive days. I’m not a racer just an average decent rider climbing ~2k feet a ride.
Of these you demoed which one would you get if just one? In the market for 429 enduro or switchblade.
@@philip3642 switchblade is notably more work uphill and not doing bike parks downhill so trail 429 or enduro. A bigger bike uphill would be a lot more difficult multiple days a week. Even Jason has gotten on lighter and lighter bikes with less and less travel.
@@jasonw3287 Thanks for the info. Going with either the Trail 429 Enduro or Shadowcat. Demoed the Shadowcat at the Pivot Factory here in Phoenix and liked it.
You seemed to be a bit more stoked on this bike review versus the reviews of similar bikes.
It's soooo good!!
Nice, i was reading that they cut weight from the frame, i saw Comp. Cyclist has the XO build for about $6300.00, i was looking last night
For 6300 I could own a killer ebike.
Yeah! Use the link below the video to purchase! Thank you!
You should do a v3 following video. I heard the new one is awesome.
Yeah! It’s on my list...
I bought one. It is awesome
You know, ya' gotta wonder how it would compare in handling with the Mojo4 if you put 27.5" wheels on the 429 Enduro or maybe the Switchblade with 27.5" but us short guys just don't feel right on 29"
It’s a shame that Pivot ruined another potential bike by many do to the unneeded Super Duper Boost.
I honestly think for most people this is a non issue as they'll only ever have the wheels that come on the bike. That said, being a guy that owns multiple bikes at a time, this was a factor in me picking another Ripley! Will discuss this in greater detail in the live stream Tuesday evening!!
@@cisnerosmike I've been on a Ripley now for 15 months and at 190 pounds there's zero rear end flex with standard boost spacing. 120mm bikes are trail bikes and NOT down hill bombers. Now, I do ride down plenty of chunk that are ridden regularly with 150-160mm bikes. I have 2 boost 148 wheels sets, so Super boost doesn't work for me, like many others.
@@stevedzurilla2436 Interesting. At 265lbs I think I do feel a difference.
This or the Element? Actual question for me, day and nights. Pivot will cost me 1000€ more. Shame I cannot demo before pull the trigger
Rockin the climb. Bravo....
haha thanks. The gopro does not do these climbs justice.....
Did you ever put beefier suspension on the Ripley like a 36? I’m 195lb and ride heavy. 140mm Mezzer + Mara IL combo made me change my mind about wanting to get a new bike. Back to loving my Ripley. Let’s see how I feel after Moab in a couple weeks
haha have fun in Moab... I would maybe want a little more bike for that terrain. In any case, no. I never tried a 36 on my Ripley... I have a few friends riding a 140 fox 36 on their Ripley's and loving it!!
How does this bike/other short travel 29ers, handle jumps and drops? I feel like this would be the perfect bike for me but I love doing jumps. I currently have a 160/150 bike but feel like I’m overbiked. I live in Bentonville, AR so it’s a lot of short ups and downs with features/jumps peppered throughout the trails that I love to hit. Thanks!
I'm on a V2 Switchblade and loving it, this 429 looks great. Any chance you will get on the new Mach 6 or Nomad soon?
Been looking at the new M6.... we'll see if I can get a ride on it
You should really, really take a look at the Norco Optic
Did you ever think of demoing a small?
I’d like to see a video comparison from you on the different sizes
Great review!! How does it climb compared to another favorite, the revel rascal?
I thought the switchblade climbed better than the Rascal and this is even a little better than the switchblade so.... T429 is probably king of climbing in the trail bike category!!
So now you literally HAVE to side by side this to new following
Yeah, I think you're right.... very interested in riding the new Following
@@mtbyumyum Yes please !!!
I would also like that. Love your reviews, one of the best on UA-cam . I tested the following tons of fun. I cant test the 429 right now would love to hear your thoughts on the two.
@@mtbyumyum I wonder if they are still hard to find, but I bought one, love it and would like to get your take on it.
You have to demo the Following V3! You may be amazed how much more "playful" and "poppy" it is compared to all other 120 29'ers. The V3 doesn't look wildly different on paper but the minor tweaks are quite noticeable in the ride characteristics. Please give it a review if you can! Thanks
Would like to get your take on the 429 Enduro version with the DPX2 and 140 Fox 36.
Likely wont get a chance to ride that bike.... my take is, get a switchblade if you're speed is often over 25 mph or go for the T429. I guess my thoughts could change after a ride but after 3 days on the T429 and over 500 miles on a switchblade, that's my thoughts!!
Damn now I’m torn. I ordered a enduro build the day it came out after owning a V 1 429 trail because I wanted a slightly more capable bike. Never had the chance to ride the V2 Trail 429. Almost ordered a Switchblade but thought this would be the ticket with short travel efficiency and slightly more capability on the downs. Where I live we are are 90-120 days out on any build so I had to go with my gut. Was I wrong and should have ordered the blade?
@@mritter28 I think your correct. The 140 fork will slacken out the head angle .5 degree more and, with a touch more travel, and stiffer fork, be more capable on the downs. I rode the Enduro at a factory demo yesterday and I agree with YumYum on how well it pedals. The rep said enduro is about a pound heavier. I’ll probably still go with the standard to save weight. Also put some faster rolling and lighter tires on. But the Enduro was impressive and I think it would a great do it all bike if it fits where you ride.
How does it stack up against the Revel Rascal? Your videos, and a few others, convinced me that is going to be my next bike, also it meets every number I can think of for installing parts I had purchased already for another build that fell through. I almost pulled the trigger on a switchblade (coming from a mach 6) but it is so hard to find a frame.
*very* curious about your thoughts on the new T429 vs the Switchblade V2
Thanks for the question. This might warrant an entire video.....
@@mtbyumyum I'm going to replace my v1 429T this year and I've been flip-flopping between the SB v2 and the T429 v3. I ride 3-5 times a week, so I'm leaning to the T429.
Glad I don't need to throw out my Ripely v4 yet.
not at all..... still very relevant bike!!
I'm really starting to wonder about bike weights. I'm in search of a lightish 29er. I had the shop weigh a couple of bikes. Looked at the xt race Pivot Trail 429 (all SLX with an xt derailleur by the way) It was 31.3 pounds with plastic pedals. Next, I looked at the XT Ripley. It was 29.5 pounds with plastic pedals. Those are basically 6 and 7 thousand dollar carbon bikes that are supposed to be light. I don't understand how people are getting 26-pound short-travel 29ers. MTB Yum Yum said that the 3K Ripley AF was 30 lbs. Something doesn't add up.
I saw a 429 PRO XT/XTR build in large in a shop and it was 28.1 lbs. I think "light" has to be compared to the enduro 29ers that are all weighing in around 32-34 lbs.
@@OutdoorCO75 Yeah, 28lbs would be great. 31lbs for the xt race build seemed heavy. I'm starting to wonder if the shop's scale was off. Weight is not a huge concern but given the price/intent of this bike, 31lbs didn't really make sense.
Love your vids, hit us with a 2021 Stumpjumper review! Please :)
Would love to get a ride on the new stumpy!!
Oh my, if the ripley only had that reach of that 429! Ibis are you listening! Haha
Are you going to test the last Propain Hugene bike (2021 version)?
How does this compare to the yeti sb115?
Awesome videos!!