I've been riding a Stumpjumper for the last few months and getting on this Pivot Shadowcat was incredibly eye opening. TRACTION FOR DAYS!! The DW Link suspension system on this Shadowcat is SO GOOD!! Compared with the Single Pivot system on the Stumpjumper I've been riding it doesn't even come close. The stumpjuper is fun in it's own way but it just really reminded me how good Pivot Cycles bikes really are. Hope you guys enjoy this video... it's sort of long... I had a lot of fun riding this bike!! Pivot Shadowcat: bit.ly/3VgHN1f
Thanks for the comparison to Stumpies, I love my 2014 Stumpy and was about to buy a new one, but this review will make me consider a Pivot bike for sure. I don't like 27.5 s however I prefer 29"s chatted with PIvot and they told me the Shadow is basically a Switchblade (29) done in 27.5 so I guess that will be my target for comparason.
Nothing wrong with Specialized... it will get you out on the trail and I've enjoyed mine but it can't do what a Pivot (dw link) does. Pivot, Ibis, Yeti and Revel are all on another level in my experience!
Knowing this bike can go mullet just put it at the top of my list! I ride a ripley af and I am looking for bike with more plush, and the 27.5 intrigues me. I'm not about going faster, I'm about having fun, but I want to be able to try a mixed wheel setup, so I'm going to save up now haha!
Lots of 27.5's deeply discounted on sale this year. Surprised Pivot came out with one, but very pleased. I hope 27.5 lives on with lots of options and support.
They have been marketing the hell out of 29er’s in recent years. Sorta created their own problem if 27.5 isn’t moving as much product, yes? Is it different 6 months late to the comments section? 😂
Because reviewers keep praising and uplifting 29ers and making 27.5 as consolation. 27.5 is way better than 29er im my opinion agile and rollability. Amd reviewer should properly review 27.5 segment not just keep reviewing 29 amd making 27.5 as a consolation 2nd option. It should be treated equally
Recently bought a Shadowcat after watching this review and, man, it's SO good. Had a Mach 5.5 prior and also have a SB130 LR. Took the Shadowcat out to our early season trails here in Bozeman MT and PR'd nearly everything... climbs and descents from greens to single blacks. Out of saddle sprinting is super efficient. It's incredibly agile, playful and pops to the moon. My friend followed me down a jump trail and said I was popping 3 ft higher than him on his DH/freeride bike. It's definitely not as confident/stable as the Yeti but I think you make up for it to a degree with better control and precision. Less margin for error, though. Better than the Mach 5.5 in every measure and more playful. Bought a 140mm 29er fork to see what the mullet setup is like.
I got myself a switchblade last year (was riding an also pretty solid Giant Reign before) and after attending a testevent my girlfriend got a shadowcat 2 months later. Both of our riding was taken to a new level. Especially she gained so much more confidence on this bike it´s awesome. Never going to ride anything else :D
Sweet bike, the latest Trail 429 made me a fan of Pivot. Never thought 120mm travel would feel plush, or that I'd buy such a short travel bike (usually have ridden 150-180mm). I can easily see a Shadowcat or Mach 6 in my future now. I like how you are always articulating the ride feel, getting other's opinions, and comparing to other bikes in a meaningful way. I've definitely have made purchases on your reviews.
Just demoed this bike along with the 429 Enduro on the 409/409.5 loop in Crested Butte. Technical climbing and descending. Gotta push them right? The Shadowcat for me was by far better all around. Actually climbed over rocky terrain smoother, faster and more efficiently and descended like butter. Incredibly stable but still very agile. Felt the Enduro was clunky in comparison. Merely an opinion but a bike with less travel that's 2 lbs heavier makes no sense to me. 29ers don't necessarily roll better, it just depends more on the terrain, tire choice and your riding style. This is from a 5'10' 150lb. retired slow pro who needs a bike to climb as well as it descends but still handle techy stuff. This bike did it all in spades. Glad Pivot is still committed to keeping bikes at a somewhat reasonable weight.
As a strong and skilled rider and who already goes plenty fast, I don't need a 29er, nor do I care about making the trail easier. I have two 29ers and three 27.5 bikes. Probably going to get this at some point. I rarely ride my 29ers.
Great review! I’ve been on a stump for a bit but am considering a Yeti SB135 vs. the Cat….leaning toward the Cat at this point. Thanks for the riders insight!
Honestly, in an effort to be on something different this year, I’ve also been eyeing the Shadowcat… such a fun bike! My 11 yr old son wants one so bad… he calls it the shadowmeow😆
Yeah, I think you nailed who, I also think this bike is for. I'm looking for a bike for my wife and am between the 439 and the Shadowcat. She's 5'2" and I've heard from other shorter women that a 29" feels too much like a boat and that the 27" feels much better for them. As always, thanks for the review. Also, daaaaang! Corner Canyon looks beautiful right now. gorgeous colors in those trees.
Long time fan, sorry for subscribing late. I lived in North Salt Lake in 2018 and that’s how I found your videos. I rode your home trail system. Your so lucky to have such great trails in your backyard! Reason I’m commenting is I’m bike shopping and I’m very interested in the Shadowcat my local shop is offering a deep discount in an XO1 build. So I’ve been on a 2016 Carbon 27.5 Stumpjumper since 2017. I love my bike, just getting old. I haven’t tried a 29er yet. Probably only gonna get one more bike for the next decade until I go e-bike 😂. Do you think the Shadowcat would make a great replacement or is there another bike I should consider. I ride steep, tight, loose terrain and I still like beating the kids up the hill… I appreciate your time and thoughts. Great videos by the way!
The Shadowcat is as good as it gets! My son with be on one next season. Such a good do everything 27.5 bike and it’s not too heavy. Feels very damp for 140mm too!
Can you give a brief comparison of the Shadowcat to the switchblade? I can’t decide between 27.5 and 29. I’m 5’10” 200 and an competent rider. Thanks for your time!
I’m kinda between medium and large sizing on the shadowcat. I was wondering what size Tyler rode, his height, and both your thoughts on sizing. Thanks. Love the videos!
The surface area in contact with the ground is a function of the pressure in the tire. 18 psi - pounds per square inch. How many pounds are pushing on the tire? Divide by the psi and you have the square inches of the contact patch (modified by a constant for the casing stiffness). 27.5 would have a different shape, longer and thinner, and 29 more short and fat. But this also depends on the tire width, which is why people like the 2.6 on the 27.5. You get a 29er shaped contact patch with a smaller wheel diameter. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
Another great review! Stunning bike especially the pink color and specced with fantastic components. If I was in the market for a bike I’d pull the trigger on this beauty!
Yeah, the most recent bikes from Pivot are getting a bit long. My last Pivot bike was the current Firebird and I got a size small... I would still go with the medium if I got the Shadowcat but its long for sure
I would probably take the Ripmo over this bike.... but I just really know that bike so well and trust it. There are trails I ride (not in these videos) that the larger wheel just rolls better over chunky sections... I don't know... I would need to ride these two bikes back to back
@@mtbyumyum I'm worried about the top tube length on this bike. It's 627mm in M, which is about 3cm longer than on the Ripmo, for example. Did you feel overly stretched out seated on it? Would appreciate your advice!
I'm on a 2021 Switchblade with these mods. -1° Headset geoadjust, X2 shock, and 27.5 rear wheel and ride in the low setting. The -1° HS made the SB feel more stable downhill, X2 makes it feel more supported and deeper suspension and the 27.5 rear wheel makes it climb on tech trails easier, more traction, more playful and quicker in and out of berms. It doesn't carry speed as well through. Overall, these mods have improved the capabilities of the SB IMO...almost a mini Firebird. With all that said, I would love to mullet a Shadowcat and keep the 160mm fork to slacken it out, shave almost 5 lbs. and see how rides. Thanks for the review!
I'm still on my Mach 5.5 but I agree on the rear suspension. Even before the new vertical shock design, the DW link and Pivot's iteration of it just makes for such a capable bike. I pedal through sections now that I had to build speed and coast with my old bike, because the rear stays so planted. I like the idea of the Shadowcat being much lighter than the 5.5. That said I'll probably go 29'er next time. My brother has a Switchblade, and a less expensive build with cheaper wheels and he just blows me away on the downhills...just coasting. That said I am a fan of the 27.5 because it's more nimble which plays well for our local trails.
Yeah, there are a lot of good options... If you've never tried a 29er you might be really surprised to see how different they are for you next bike. That said, this Shadowcat would feel pretty different from your 5.5 in my experience.
Great video! I recall the Mojo 4 vs Ripley comparison and it seemed like the Rip was more effective at most things but the Mojo was more fun. Sounds like a similar scenario with the 429 vs. Cat. Question: any way for you to compare the Mojo 4 to the Shadowcat? As another commenter said, both have 27.5, dw link and similar travel I think. Wondering if there's much difference between them or if they've become very similar like the Ripley and latest 429?
Yeah, great question. I'm unable to do an actual video review but from my experience, the Mojo4 is the more playful and poppy bike. The mojo doesn't feel as deep and damp and the Shadowcat. These bikes are both a lot of fun and as I mentioned in the video, the Shadowcat would likely be ab excellent bike for my wife. She currently rides a mojo4 and loves it but I think the shadowcat could give her even more confidence in more demanding terrain that she would otherwise maybe shy away from on the mojo4. Hope this helps!!
@@mtbyumyum I would agree with this assessment. I was able to demo the Shadowcat and currently own a Mojo4. The Shadowcat has sharper handling characteristics; almost intuitive (reminded me of my Turner XCE) and feels just a little more sprightly and the Mojo 4 feels just a touch more solid. You really couldn't go wrong with either of these bikes. If the Mojo had a little higher stack height, I'd love it even more.
Watched a BUNCH of your vids looking for my 1st MTB to ride my local park and mountain trails. The Shadowcat in the pink is calling to me. No big jumps, just flowing and hitting side hits for fun. Which build lvl and drivetrain would you recommend? Kinda confused with all the options. i.e. Ride, Pro, Team and SLX/XT, GX/XO1, and XT/XTR. These bikes aren't cheap and I dont wanna "mess up" and buy the wrong build. 6' 180lbs if that matters.
Love the pink!!! I'd go with the xt/xtr pro build.... it's good kit at a sort of reasonable price... If you haven't purchased yet, call Chris at Salt Cycles and talk to him about a custom build with special "yumyum" pricing!! 801-943-8502
@mtbyumyum great review as usual. I'd really like to see your review of the Yeti sb120 and a comparisson with the Pivot trail 429. I'm ready to buy and i'm really having a hard time trying to decide between those 2.
I ride mostly @ Santos in Florida, I’m trying to decide between a Shadowcat and Trail 429. I mostly ride greens and blues, not looking to race or PR everything just really enjoy biking and riding with friends and my kiddo. I am 5’6 almost 5’7 with a longer torso, and shorter inseam (30”) demoed a Medium Shadowcat and Small Trail 429 @ the recent Fat Tire Festival and loved them both, but really enjoyed riding the Shadowcat a little more. I am planning to demo/test ride a Medium in the Trail 429 as the front cockpit of that bike in a small felt a little cramped to me. I’m coming from an older Giant Ladies Anthem with 26” Wheels. Pivot is the first 29er I’ve tried that actually made me consider getting one. Any suggestions one which might be better??
I just enjoyed my time on the Shadowcat so much. What a bike. Where your like me, on the shorter side, and not racing at all, I’d go with the Shadowcat 100%. Call Chris at Salt Cycles and tell him youre a friend of the channel and he will get you a special deal on the shadowcat! Plus, no sales tax… give him a call 801-943-8502
I have been buying all of your review bikes and I have agreed with al but the Pivots. I am 200lbs so I believe that heavier riders have a different experience on the Pivot version DW Link. I didn't find the switchblade chattery or overly stiff at all just heavy for the category. I know I will get torched for this but I hated the Trail429. It felt like an XC bike w/ better legs. I don't think your wrong I just think that weight totally changes the way Pivot bikes feel. I didn't find the Yeti sb140 stiff at all, in fact I found the rear end of the sb140 and sb130 to be flexy when I would dive into the corners. Once again my weight. Great review Jason I always look forward to your opinions and prospective. On another note, I just built a V2 Evil Offering. 29.82lbs and it pedals NOTICABLY better than the first version. I am still on a new bike high but it is exactly what I wanted my Ripmo to be, and that is saying a ton because I loved that Ripmo. Also cant wait to hear your review on the new Yeti ikes....keep them coming.
I appreciate your perspective regarding the effect of rider weight on the feel of the bike. I’m 240lbs and have been considering a Trail 429 or a ShadowCat. The new Yetis are also intriguing but the reviews of the Pivots really have me leaning in that direction. I’m hoping more riding will help with my weight loss and maybe the feel of the bike may change…who knows. I’m wondering if the Pivots would feel flexy under me.
I promise you that switchblade will never feel flexy. I thought that switchblade was almost perfect. It was a little heavy. It was about 2 1/2 pounds heavier than my equivalently priced Ripmo. If you buy a switchblade, you are probably going to love it. I trade bikes about every 3 to 4 months otherwise I would’ve kept the switchblade.
Nicholas, thanks for weighing in on this topic. I totally recognize that other peoples experience may be different than mine as rider weight, height and ability can all be significant factors in the riding experience. Would love to give the new Evil Offering a rip... bike looks very cool!
I’m also 200lbs but I am going from the offering v2 to the switchblade. I found the switchblade I demoed to be much lighter-feeling than the offering and better pedaling but felt a tiny bit “bucked” on rowdier descents versus on the offering which was very plush and stable but also heavy. Wondering if you have the same experience?
Great review! Very interesting bike to me. Coming from a BMX background I think I would prefer the 27.5 wheels and love how you described slowing it down and enjoying the ride even more. Also mullet curious 🤔. Hope to see you try the new Transition Smuggler out as well. Thanks for providing such helpful reviews 👍
Ibis HD5 rider now. I like it because it can do TX and AR enduro races and still hang at the bike park in the Rockies. For the enduros that I ride, I wouldn't mind a bit less travel ... like the Shadowcat. But, is the Shadowcat enough bike to handle bike park? Maybe mulleted with a 29er 150 fork to get back a degree or so of HTA? Thoughts?
@MTB yumyum I guess I'm concerned with the Shadowcat geo. Coming from 64* to 66*, I'm thinking overforking will put it around 65. Maybe that kills what makes it special, though.
I’m thinking of mulleting this bike for sure. 150 fork almost keeps geo the same but will slacken head angle by a degree and raise bb height by about 8mm. Both are advantageous imo. I hate peddle strikes and 65 deg head angle is the goldilocks. I currently have a mach 6 in mullet and its superb!
Did you try switchblade with float x? I haven’t experienced those negative sensations you refer to im trying to figure out what it could be… Tires too firm?
Very cool info and so fun to watch you guys ride. That bike looks so fun! Would you be able to take a Firebird and put a 36 fork and a Fox Float X on the back and have it ride like this shadowcat with 29 inch wheels?
Even though it performs well on this, still surprised to see a DPS instead of a canister on the back. Just seems for the price and intended rider they could have put a better shock on it for prolonged downhill
Yeah, for 140mm you would think they might have gone with the Fox Float X shock... maybe they were going for lighter weight and more of a lively jib type feel for this bike. That said, the DPS on this bike is shockingly good!! For our trails and the sustained 8-11 minute down hill sections he never felt like it was fading out or getting too hot and over worked. I used to feel that on my Santa Cruz 5010 but the current Fox DPS is much better that it was back in 2015 when I had that bike.
27.5 are not dead, companies are still trying to sell the size with the mullet bikes, i guess they know there's a bunch of people looking for that wheel size over the 29ers, because tall guys can feel a 29er playfull like a 27.5 but a medium short guy can't, that's why still existing this bike, commencal clash or all the mullet models
Nice review! Did you find you had more pedal strikes with the Shadowcat? I ride an XS Trail 429, and demoed the Shadowcat a couple months ago. Maybe I just got so used to the 29er that the Shadowcat just didn’t feel right to me - harder to get over obstacles and more pedal strikes. Oh, and by the way, I’m only 4’10”, and absolutely LOVE Pivot for the lower standover. I never thought I’d be able comfortably ride a 29er, yet the 429 suits me so much better than my Juliana Furtado 27.5!
It's hard to say... I guess it would sort of depend on the terrain. I would be very interested to ride the Shadowcat with a 140mm 29er fork and wheel in the mullet setup. Stock for stock, I would maybe grab the T429
The Mojo4 is more playful.. more zippy and poppy. The Shadowcat feels more capable, damp and controlled. It's crazy to feel so deep and look down and see that small DPS shock out back. Crazy!
Yeah, I think you're right. Ibis tends to make a more lively poppy bike. Feels lighter weight under you, more agile and the Pivot bikes tend to feel more damp and controlled. I prefer the feel of Ibis bikes but man, every time I get on a Pivot I just gush over how good they are. It's amazing to feel the difference of the DW Link on Pivot bikes. As good as Santa Cruz VPP, Revels CBF and Evils Delta link on the down hill but much better on the climb and support through the entire stroke of the shock. It's insane.
@@mtbyumyum Interesting that you feel the Mojo is more zippy. I felt like the Shadowcat was more zippy but not by much :-D But, the Mojo is DEFINITELY more poppy and playful!
How would you compare the Shadowcat to the Switchblade? I'm curious because the suspension travel is about the same. The main differences that I see are the rear shock and the wheel size. I would appreciate your input on this.
@motokrawz The SB might be a little better for sustained longer descents. Just because the dps shock might not do as well as the Float X over a long period of rough terrain... mostly down hill
Thank you for the video and your comment comparing your Stumpy with this bike. I got my mind set on the Stumpy (like yours) but now Idk. Lol I am currently rocking the Ripley AF at 27.2 lbs with Berd Hawk 27 wheels. That bike is so, so good with those wheels on! Like having extra 10mm of travel. Climbing traction and damped feel is top notch! My question is, now that you have been on that Stumpy for few months now and you had couple of Ripleys for 3 years. Which one would you choose to keep if you have both?
I'm on a Ripley AF and was looking at Berd wheels as well! But after seeing this review I think I might save that money for a Shadowcat. My hardtail was 27.5 and just fine on my trails. I was also considering the stumpjumper before watching this review, but wasn't sure if the extra 10mm of travel would be worth it over my ripley...either I get a Berd wheelset for my Ripley and step up my fork to 140 travel or save that money for a new bike...decisions, decisions.
Your Ripley AF sounds awesome. I love my Salt Cycles wheels with the birds spokes. They’re amazing! As far as the stumpjumper versus Ripley. It’s a tough choice. The stump jumper is overall the perfect package. If I could only own one bike it would be that bike the problem is, it’s a single pivot bike with flexy seat stays. It just doesn’t do what the Ripley does in terms of climbing traction and overall feel. Same can be said about the new yeti SB 120. It just feels better than the stump jumper. I love how lightweight the stump jumper is though and it feels incredibly zippy. If I could keep the bike from bottoming out without having to add so much air pressure it would be the Goldilocks bike. Good luck
How does this compare to your wife's Mojo 4? Very curious. I am considering getting the Mojo right now but after this glowing review of the Shadowcat I am having second thoughts.
I am trying to decide between the Switchblade and shadow cat. I live east coast so raw Pisgah trails and flowy jump trails in Knoxville and i want to ride steep downhill Windrock bike park trails occasionally. I also like to do 20+ mile days on the bike so it is a tough question which would you pick?
It's hard to say... the SB is an excellent all around do every thing bike. The shadowcat might get overwhelmed on the longer more sustains descents. Good luck!
How tall is Tyler? Looks like he is riding a size small frame. You said you are 5'8" and riding the medium. I'm 5'6" and presently ride an Ibis Ripmo medium. Any insight on sizing of the pivot? Thanks!
The Mojo4 is more playful.. more zippy and poppy. The Shadowcat feels more capable, damp and controlled. It's crazy to feel so deep and look down and see that small DPS shock out back. Crazy!
Demoed the shadowcat last month and really liked it a lot. Felt stiff and fun. Handled awsome. I have a v2 pivot 429 great bike except the shitty race face cranks. U could put shimano on this not super boost bike though. Jumped great made me want one
Just a few observations, I think Pívot has done a great job at offering bikes where you can chose wheel size or mullet (rather than forcing you to go mullet like Santa Cruz in the 5010). Just one small gripe, I wish they specd a Grip2 on the 36 and offered a version with a Pivot tuned X2 or Float X (enduro version) like the trail 429. I’ve seen the factory team running those and it’s a great rig for slalom through to light enduro
If you could think back to the Pivot Firebird 27.5, how does this Shadowcat compare to? Does it feel like a lighter, nimbler version of the 27.5 Firebird?
@@mtbyumyum Perhaps a comparison is in order. Perhaps that 650b Firebird will come relevant again... geo seems to have peaked and walking backwards nowadays. Haha! But yeah. I'd want a Shadowcat myself but Pivot not selling frame-only options really busts the budget...
@@mtbyumyumUpdate - I got myself a Shadowcat! And from first ride experience the handling is uncanningly similar to the 650b 2018 Firebird; almost too alike. Corners the same, has the same lean factor and "in the bike" feel... but with twice the fun on jumps and much, much more composed on climbs 🤙 Only downside is perhaps that Firebird has 30mm more travel which really comes into play on chunk and fast chatter but the Shadowcat handles that quite well too Just to put it out here if anyone's looking for a comparison !
Best way to describe it climbing and descending would probably be simply “it’s a pivot”. Yes I’m a Pivot fan but it’s because their bikes just perform.
Why did Pivot make this bike? Was hoping they were going to make a 160/140 29er; maybe call it the Mach 5 and finally, they got rid of Superboost. Something like an Ibis Ripmo.
Okay… this is your worst review. Is it a trail bike? A cross country? A wife bike” Or, a 6 inch travel all mountain? Maybe too much caffeine before this review YumYum.
at 4:40 I specifically say it's not a cross country bike and again at 16:20 not a cx bike but a killer trail bike.... not sure if I'm missing something... I think I was very clear the Shadowcat in my experience in an excellent trail bike and a lot of fun!!
@@mtbyumyum ok ok, but let’s get down to brass tacks here: does it shred!?! Can you throw a 29 up front (because mullet is truly the best) and make the Shadowcat the one bike for all situations. Or, is my mach 6 still the king??? Lol… thanks for your reviews and help! I bought my bike from Salt Cycles because of you!
Thanks for your support! I still need to ride the M6.... looks amazing! The shadowcat is super interesting to me... would like to try it as a 140mm mullet
I've been riding a Stumpjumper for the last few months and getting on this Pivot Shadowcat was incredibly eye opening. TRACTION FOR DAYS!! The DW Link suspension system on this Shadowcat is SO GOOD!! Compared with the Single Pivot system on the Stumpjumper I've been riding it doesn't even come close. The stumpjuper is fun in it's own way but it just really reminded me how good Pivot Cycles bikes really are. Hope you guys enjoy this video... it's sort of long... I had a lot of fun riding this bike!! Pivot Shadowcat: bit.ly/3VgHN1f
Thanks for the comparison to Stumpies, I love my 2014 Stumpy and was about to buy a new one, but this review will make me consider a Pivot bike for sure. I don't like 27.5 s however I prefer 29"s chatted with PIvot and they told me the Shadow is basically a Switchblade (29) done in 27.5 so I guess that will be my target for comparason.
Nothing wrong with Specialized... it will get you out on the trail and I've enjoyed mine but it can't do what a Pivot (dw link) does. Pivot, Ibis, Yeti and Revel are all on another level in my experience!
Hi, how does this compare to the Mach 6 current generation and the Mach 6 of previous generation (2015-2019)?
Knowing this bike can go mullet just put it at the top of my list! I ride a ripley af and I am looking for bike with more plush, and the 27.5 intrigues me. I'm not about going faster, I'm about having fun, but I want to be able to try a mixed wheel setup, so I'm going to save up now haha!
Gabriel RO, totally!! This bike with a 140mm 29er fork would be money!!
Lots of 27.5's deeply discounted on sale this year. Surprised Pivot came out with one, but very pleased. I hope 27.5 lives on with lots of options and support.
27.5 will never be dead. That wheel size is fun, light, agile and still roll quick.
I agree but everything I hear from people in the business is the 27.5 bikes just aren't moving....
They have been marketing the hell out of 29er’s in recent years. Sorta created their own problem if 27.5 isn’t moving as much product, yes? Is it different 6 months late to the comments section? 😂
It's refreshing to see companies making good bikes in 27.5. I like 27.5 and have been disappointed to see their decline.
Yeah but from everything I’ve heard manufacturers are really struggling to sell 27.5 bikes. It’s a shame because they are a lot of fun
I read somewhere that fox and Rockshox didn’t want to make 27.5 forks anymore so this is pushing the change. Have no idea if it’s true or not.
Because reviewers keep praising and uplifting 29ers and making 27.5 as consolation. 27.5 is way better than 29er im my opinion agile and rollability. Amd reviewer should properly review 27.5 segment not just keep reviewing 29 amd making 27.5 as a consolation 2nd option. It should be treated equally
Recently bought a Shadowcat after watching this review and, man, it's SO good. Had a Mach 5.5 prior and also have a SB130 LR. Took the Shadowcat out to our early season trails here in Bozeman MT and PR'd nearly everything... climbs and descents from greens to single blacks. Out of saddle sprinting is super efficient. It's incredibly agile, playful and pops to the moon. My friend followed me down a jump trail and said I was popping 3 ft higher than him on his DH/freeride bike. It's definitely not as confident/stable as the Yeti but I think you make up for it to a degree with better control and precision. Less margin for error, though. Better than the Mach 5.5 in every measure and more playful. Bought a 140mm 29er fork to see what the mullet setup is like.
Wow!! Thanks for weighing in. Would love to stay in touch and hear more about the mx set up. Hit me up on ig🤘🤙
What do you do for work my man 😮
any updates on the MX set up ?? Im curious about this one
How tall are you and what size did you get? The M Shadowcat is the same length as the L Mach6v3.
I got myself a switchblade last year (was riding an also pretty solid Giant Reign before) and after attending a testevent my girlfriend got a shadowcat 2 months later. Both of our riding was taken to a new level. Especially she gained so much more confidence on this bike it´s awesome. Never going to ride anything else :D
Hey that's my bike ! Excited to watch your review!
appreciate you using our track! awesome video!
Sweet bike, the latest Trail 429 made me a fan of Pivot. Never thought 120mm travel would feel plush, or that I'd buy such a short travel bike (usually have ridden 150-180mm). I can easily see a Shadowcat or Mach 6 in my future now.
I like how you are always articulating the ride feel, getting other's opinions, and comparing to other bikes in a meaningful way. I've definitely have made purchases on your reviews.
Very cool! Yeah, I try and share my experience riding all the other bikes as best as I can.
Just demoed this bike along with the 429 Enduro on the 409/409.5 loop in Crested Butte. Technical climbing and descending. Gotta push them right? The Shadowcat for me was by far better all around. Actually climbed over rocky terrain smoother, faster and more efficiently and descended like butter. Incredibly stable but still very agile. Felt the Enduro was clunky in comparison. Merely an opinion but a bike with less travel that's 2 lbs heavier makes no sense to me. 29ers don't necessarily roll better, it just depends more on the terrain, tire choice and your riding style. This is from a 5'10' 150lb. retired slow pro who needs a bike to climb as well as it descends but still handle techy stuff. This bike did it all in spades. Glad Pivot is still committed to keeping bikes at a somewhat reasonable weight.
Thanks for weighing in on this!
Thanks for posting this. There aren't enough reviews of this bike.
Glad it was helpful!
As a strong and skilled rider and who already goes plenty fast, I don't need a 29er, nor do I care about making the trail easier. I have two 29ers and three 27.5 bikes. Probably going to get this at some point. I rarely ride my 29ers.
Great review! I’ve been on a stump for a bit but am considering a Yeti SB135 vs. the Cat….leaning toward the Cat at this point. Thanks for the riders insight!
Honestly, in an effort to be on something different this year, I’ve also been eyeing the Shadowcat… such a fun bike! My 11 yr old son wants one so bad… he calls it the shadowmeow😆
Yeah, I think you nailed who, I also think this bike is for. I'm looking for a bike for my wife and am between the 439 and the Shadowcat. She's 5'2" and I've heard from other shorter women that a 29" feels too much like a boat and that the 27" feels much better for them. As always, thanks for the review. Also, daaaaang! Corner Canyon looks beautiful right now. gorgeous colors in those trees.
Thank you! Good luck finding the right bike for your wife... I think the Shadowcat would be an excellent all around trail bike option!
Thanks nice job. Man, you just described my transition scout. Love that thing. Now I want a shadow cat. I seem to collect 27.5 bikes
Right on! Thats awesome. Yeah, I still need to get out on the scout!
Thank you for reviewing the new Moon ShadowCat Stevens.
haha
@@mtbyumyum 😉
Nice to see them make a bike in a more vibrant color for a change.
haha Yeah, the pink is fun!!
Long time fan, sorry for subscribing late. I lived in North Salt Lake in 2018 and that’s how I found your videos. I rode your home trail system. Your so lucky to have such great trails in your backyard!
Reason I’m commenting is I’m bike shopping and I’m very interested in the Shadowcat my local shop is offering a deep discount in an XO1 build. So I’ve been on a 2016 Carbon 27.5 Stumpjumper since 2017. I love my bike, just getting old. I haven’t tried a 29er yet. Probably only gonna get one more bike for the next decade until I go e-bike 😂. Do you think the Shadowcat would make a great replacement or is there another bike I should consider. I ride steep, tight, loose terrain and I still like beating the kids up the hill… I appreciate your time and thoughts. Great videos by the way!
The Shadowcat is as good as it gets! My son with be on one next season. Such a good do everything 27.5 bike and it’s not too heavy. Feels very damp for 140mm too!
@@mtbyumyum thanks for the reply! I’m gonna pull the trigger on it!
Can you give a brief comparison of the Shadowcat to the switchblade? I can’t decide between 27.5 and 29. I’m 5’10” 200 and an competent rider. Thanks for your time!
@@tristanholsgrove7619shadow cat is for smaller riders. I think…..
It's not often you see a new 140mm bike that weighs 27.5lbs. Smaller wheels and frame help.
I’m kinda between medium and large sizing on the shadowcat. I was wondering what size Tyler rode, his height, and both your thoughts on sizing. Thanks. Love the videos!
Tyler rode a small
The surface area in contact with the ground is a function of the pressure in the tire. 18 psi - pounds per square inch. How many pounds are pushing on the tire? Divide by the psi and you have the square inches of the contact patch (modified by a constant for the casing stiffness). 27.5 would have a different shape, longer and thinner, and 29 more short and fat. But this also depends on the tire width, which is why people like the 2.6 on the 27.5. You get a 29er shaped contact patch with a smaller wheel diameter. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
Another great review! Stunning bike especially the pink color and specced with fantastic components. If I was in the market for a bike I’d pull the trigger on this beauty!
Great review as always! Recently picked up the Shadowcat in Austin. Awesome bike. Fast, light & fun.
Thanks and congrats!
Hey Jason, nice video as always. 460 Reach on a Medium. Wow, that's Enduro level. My Megatower has 450mm on a medium!
Yeah, the most recent bikes from Pivot are getting a bit long. My last Pivot bike was the current Firebird and I got a size small... I would still go with the medium if I got the Shadowcat but its long for sure
@@mtbyumyum good stuff thanks for the reply. Think I have to come out to Utah for a collaboration on one of these rest rides as well !
Still want to go back to 29ers/ripmo as your go to?? You said how Fun it was a lot in this video!
I would probably take the Ripmo over this bike.... but I just really know that bike so well and trust it. There are trails I ride (not in these videos) that the larger wheel just rolls better over chunky sections... I don't know... I would need to ride these two bikes back to back
Great review !! Those Fox gloves are sweet. Haven’t seen them yet!!!
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@@mtbyumyum thanks brotha !!
Now we really need that SB135 head-to-head ;)
100% that would be really fun!
@@mtbyumyum I'm worried about the top tube length on this bike. It's 627mm in M, which is about 3cm longer than on the Ripmo, for example. Did you feel overly stretched out seated on it? Would appreciate your advice!
I love the Californian reference. Chill, guy on a beach type bike.
Bingo!!
I'm on a 2021 Switchblade with these mods. -1° Headset geoadjust, X2 shock, and 27.5 rear wheel and ride in the low setting. The -1° HS made the SB feel more stable downhill, X2 makes it feel more supported and deeper suspension and the 27.5 rear wheel makes it climb on tech trails easier, more traction, more playful and quicker in and out of berms. It doesn't carry speed as well through. Overall, these mods have improved the capabilities of the SB IMO...almost a mini Firebird. With all that said, I would love to mullet a Shadowcat and keep the 160mm fork to slacken it out, shave almost 5 lbs. and see how rides. Thanks for the review!
I'm still on my Mach 5.5 but I agree on the rear suspension. Even before the new vertical shock design, the DW link and Pivot's iteration of it just makes for such a capable bike. I pedal through sections now that I had to build speed and coast with my old bike, because the rear stays so planted. I like the idea of the Shadowcat being much lighter than the 5.5. That said I'll probably go 29'er next time. My brother has a Switchblade, and a less expensive build with cheaper wheels and he just blows me away on the downhills...just coasting. That said I am a fan of the 27.5 because it's more nimble which plays well for our local trails.
Yeah, there are a lot of good options... If you've never tried a 29er you might be really surprised to see how different they are for you next bike. That said, this Shadowcat would feel pretty different from your 5.5 in my experience.
That's odd because many times riding behind guys on 29ers on long downhills, coasting my Mach 6, I go the exact same speed they go.
Great video! I recall the Mojo 4 vs Ripley comparison and it seemed like the Rip was more effective at most things but the Mojo was more fun. Sounds like a similar scenario with the 429 vs. Cat. Question: any way for you to compare the Mojo 4 to the Shadowcat? As another commenter said, both have 27.5, dw link and similar travel I think. Wondering if there's much difference between them or if they've become very similar like the Ripley and latest 429?
Yeah, great question. I'm unable to do an actual video review but from my experience, the Mojo4 is the more playful and poppy bike. The mojo doesn't feel as deep and damp and the Shadowcat. These bikes are both a lot of fun and as I mentioned in the video, the Shadowcat would likely be ab excellent bike for my wife. She currently rides a mojo4 and loves it but I think the shadowcat could give her even more confidence in more demanding terrain that she would otherwise maybe shy away from on the mojo4. Hope this helps!!
@@mtbyumyum I would agree with this assessment. I was able to demo the Shadowcat and currently own a Mojo4. The Shadowcat has sharper handling characteristics; almost intuitive (reminded me of my Turner XCE) and feels just a little more sprightly and the Mojo 4 feels just a touch more solid. You really couldn't go wrong with either of these bikes. If the Mojo had a little higher stack height, I'd love it even more.
Watched a BUNCH of your vids looking for my 1st MTB to ride my local park and mountain trails. The Shadowcat in the pink is calling to me.
No big jumps, just flowing and hitting side hits for fun.
Which build lvl and drivetrain would you recommend? Kinda confused with all the options. i.e. Ride, Pro, Team and SLX/XT, GX/XO1, and XT/XTR.
These bikes aren't cheap and I dont wanna "mess up" and buy the wrong build.
6' 180lbs if that matters.
Love the pink!!! I'd go with the xt/xtr pro build.... it's good kit at a sort of reasonable price... If you haven't purchased yet, call Chris at Salt Cycles and talk to him about a custom build with special "yumyum" pricing!! 801-943-8502
@@mtbyumyum awesome! I ended up getting the pro xt/xtr with the carbon wheel upgrade
@mtbyumyum great review as usual. I'd really like to see your review of the Yeti sb120 and a comparisson with the Pivot trail 429. I'm ready to buy and i'm really having a hard time trying to decide between those 2.
I'll have the sb120 review out next week hopefully!
I ride mostly @ Santos in Florida, I’m trying to decide between a Shadowcat and Trail 429. I mostly ride greens and blues, not looking to race or PR everything just really enjoy biking and riding with friends and my kiddo. I am 5’6 almost 5’7 with a longer torso, and shorter inseam (30”) demoed a Medium Shadowcat and Small Trail 429 @ the recent Fat Tire Festival and loved them both, but really enjoyed riding the Shadowcat a little more. I am planning to demo/test ride a Medium in the Trail 429 as the front cockpit of that bike in a small felt a little cramped to me. I’m coming from an older Giant Ladies Anthem with 26”
Wheels. Pivot is the first 29er I’ve tried that actually made me consider getting one. Any suggestions one which might be better??
I just enjoyed my time on the Shadowcat so much. What a bike. Where your like me, on the shorter side, and not racing at all, I’d go with the Shadowcat 100%. Call Chris at Salt Cycles and tell him youre a friend of the channel and he will get you a special deal on the shadowcat! Plus, no sales tax… give him a call 801-943-8502
@@mtbyumyum thank you soooo much!
I like Pivot bikes but I just want to say your trails look amazing.
Thank you! Yep, we’re super lucky to have these amazing trails in our backyard!
Great video. Would love to get your impressions of the V3 Hightower and SB140 soon.
There's a chance I'll get a ride on the new 29er sb140 soon... otherwise it will be spring for both bikes.
I have been buying all of your review bikes and I have agreed with al but the Pivots. I am 200lbs so I believe that heavier riders have a different experience on the Pivot version DW Link. I didn't find the switchblade chattery or overly stiff at all just heavy for the category. I know I will get torched for this but I hated the Trail429. It felt like an XC bike w/ better legs. I don't think your wrong I just think that weight totally changes the way Pivot bikes feel. I didn't find the Yeti sb140 stiff at all, in fact I found the rear end of the sb140 and sb130 to be flexy when I would dive into the corners. Once again my weight. Great review Jason I always look forward to your opinions and prospective. On another note, I just built a V2 Evil Offering. 29.82lbs and it pedals NOTICABLY better than the first version. I am still on a new bike high but it is exactly what I wanted my Ripmo to be, and that is saying a ton because I loved that Ripmo. Also cant wait to hear your review on the new Yeti ikes....keep them coming.
I appreciate your perspective regarding the effect of rider weight on the feel of the bike. I’m 240lbs and have been considering a Trail 429 or a ShadowCat. The new Yetis are also intriguing but the reviews of the Pivots really have me leaning in that direction. I’m hoping more riding will help with my weight loss and maybe the feel of the bike may change…who knows. I’m wondering if the Pivots would feel flexy under me.
I promise you that switchblade will never feel flexy. I thought that switchblade was almost perfect. It was a little heavy. It was about 2 1/2 pounds heavier than my equivalently priced Ripmo. If you buy a switchblade, you are probably going to love it. I trade bikes about every 3 to 4 months otherwise I would’ve kept the switchblade.
Nicholas, thanks for weighing in on this topic. I totally recognize that other peoples experience may be different than mine as rider weight, height and ability can all be significant factors in the riding experience. Would love to give the new Evil Offering a rip... bike looks very cool!
I’m also 200lbs but I am going from the offering v2 to the switchblade. I found the switchblade I demoed to be much lighter-feeling than the offering and better pedaling but felt a tiny bit “bucked” on rowdier descents versus on the offering which was very plush and stable but also heavy. Wondering if you have the same experience?
Pls test new Trek Fuel Ex.
I love the video, keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
This would be a great bike for a short guy like me! 😊
Totally!
What’s old is new again, looks very similar to the previous gen RM Slayer IMO
Great review! Very interesting bike to me. Coming from a BMX background I think I would prefer the 27.5 wheels and love how you described slowing it down and enjoying the ride even more. Also mullet curious 🤔. Hope to see you try the new Transition Smuggler out as well. Thanks for providing such helpful reviews 👍
Thanks!
Ibis HD5 rider now. I like it because it can do TX and AR enduro races and still hang at the bike park in the Rockies. For the enduros that I ride, I wouldn't mind a bit less travel ... like the Shadowcat. But, is the Shadowcat enough bike to handle bike park? Maybe mulleted with a 29er 150 fork to get back a degree or so of HTA? Thoughts?
Yeah, maybe... I think you would need to go 140mm fork for the mullet to keep similar geo.
@MTB yumyum I guess I'm concerned with the Shadowcat geo. Coming from 64* to 66*, I'm thinking overforking will put it around 65. Maybe that kills what makes it special, though.
I’m thinking of mulleting this bike for sure. 150 fork almost keeps geo the same but will slacken head angle by a degree and raise bb height by about 8mm. Both are advantageous imo. I hate peddle strikes and 65 deg head angle is the goldilocks. I currently have a mach 6 in mullet and its superb!
What trail are riding for the review of the Cat?
Rush, corner canyon, Draper Utah
Thanks, looks like beautiful riding out there. Love the videos.
Did you try switchblade with float x?
I haven’t experienced those negative sensations you refer to im trying to figure out what it could be…
Tires too firm?
Very cool info and so fun to watch you guys ride. That bike looks so fun! Would you be able to take a Firebird and put a 36 fork and a Fox Float X on the back and have it ride like this shadowcat with 29 inch wheels?
I don't think so... that bike is longer and more slack
Even though it performs well on this, still surprised to see a DPS instead of a canister on the back. Just seems for the price and intended rider they could have put a better shock on it for prolonged downhill
Yeah, for 140mm you would think they might have gone with the Fox Float X shock... maybe they were going for lighter weight and more of a lively jib type feel for this bike. That said, the DPS on this bike is shockingly good!! For our trails and the sustained 8-11 minute down hill sections he never felt like it was fading out or getting too hot and over worked. I used to feel that on my Santa Cruz 5010 but the current Fox DPS is much better that it was back in 2015 when I had that bike.
I wonder if / when we’ll see a full update for the Mach 4 SL. Threaded BB, two bottle cage mounts, slight bump up in the amount of rear shock travel…
27.5 are not dead, companies are still trying to sell the size with the mullet bikes, i guess they know there's a bunch of people looking for that wheel size over the 29ers, because tall guys can feel a 29er playfull like a 27.5 but a medium short guy can't, that's why still existing this bike, commencal clash or all the mullet models
Nice review! Did you find you had more pedal strikes with the Shadowcat? I ride an XS Trail 429, and demoed the Shadowcat a couple months ago. Maybe I just got so used to the 29er that the Shadowcat just didn’t feel right to me - harder to get over obstacles and more pedal strikes. Oh, and by the way, I’m only 4’10”, and absolutely LOVE Pivot for the lower standover. I never thought I’d be able comfortably ride a 29er, yet the 429 suits me so much better than my Juliana Furtado 27.5!
No, I didn't get excessive pedal strikes on this bike
Cool name for a bike !!
If you had to grab the Shadowcat or a Trail 429 for a ride, which would you grab? I'm currently on a 429 but the LBS has a good deal on the Shadowcat.
It's hard to say... I guess it would sort of depend on the terrain. I would be very interested to ride the Shadowcat with a 140mm 29er fork and wheel in the mullet setup. Stock for stock, I would maybe grab the T429
I'd be curious to hear your thoughts comparing the Shadowcat to the Mojo4. Both 27.5 DW link bikes, different travel, but which one is more fun?
The Mojo4 is more playful.. more zippy and poppy. The Shadowcat feels more capable, damp and controlled. It's crazy to feel so deep and look down and see that small DPS shock out back. Crazy!
@@mtbyumyum that is kind of the story of Ibis vs Pivot overall…right?
Yeah, I think you're right. Ibis tends to make a more lively poppy bike. Feels lighter weight under you, more agile and the Pivot bikes tend to feel more damp and controlled. I prefer the feel of Ibis bikes but man, every time I get on a Pivot I just gush over how good they are. It's amazing to feel the difference of the DW Link on Pivot bikes. As good as Santa Cruz VPP, Revels CBF and Evils Delta link on the down hill but much better on the climb and support through the entire stroke of the shock. It's insane.
@@mtbyumyum Interesting that you feel the Mojo is more zippy. I felt like the Shadowcat was more zippy but not by much :-D But, the Mojo is DEFINITELY more poppy and playful!
You said this is a “wife bike” like 4 times! Not very inspiring 😏
How would you compare this in terms of chata her and versatility to the Switchblade?
How would you compare the Shadowcat to the Switchblade? I'm curious because the suspension travel is about the same. The main differences that I see are the rear shock and the wheel size. I would appreciate your input on this.
The Shadowcat is even more easy going than the SB and just over all feels more playful. Softer too!
@@mtbyumyum In your opinion any less capable than the SB? Thank you for your input.
@motokrawz The SB might be a little better for sustained longer descents. Just because the dps shock might not do as well as the Float X over a long period of rough terrain... mostly down hill
Thank you for the video and your comment comparing your Stumpy with this bike. I got my mind set on the Stumpy (like yours) but now Idk. Lol I am currently rocking the Ripley AF at 27.2 lbs with Berd Hawk 27 wheels. That bike is so, so good with those wheels on! Like having extra 10mm of travel. Climbing traction and damped feel is top notch! My question is, now that you have been on that Stumpy for few months now and you had couple of Ripleys for 3 years. Which one would you choose to keep if you have both?
I'm on a Ripley AF and was looking at Berd wheels as well! But after seeing this review I think I might save that money for a Shadowcat. My hardtail was 27.5 and just fine on my trails. I was also considering the stumpjumper before watching this review, but wasn't sure if the extra 10mm of travel would be worth it over my ripley...either I get a Berd wheelset for my Ripley and step up my fork to 140 travel or save that money for a new bike...decisions, decisions.
Your Ripley AF sounds awesome. I love my Salt Cycles wheels with the birds spokes. They’re amazing! As far as the stumpjumper versus Ripley. It’s a tough choice. The stump jumper is overall the perfect package. If I could only own one bike it would be that bike the problem is, it’s a single pivot bike with flexy seat stays. It just doesn’t do what the Ripley does in terms of climbing traction and overall feel. Same can be said about the new yeti SB 120. It just feels better than the stump jumper. I love how lightweight the stump jumper is though and it feels incredibly zippy. If I could keep the bike from bottoming out without having to add so much air pressure it would be the Goldilocks bike. Good luck
@@mtbyumyum Appreciate this Jason!
How does this compare to your wife's Mojo 4? Very curious. I am considering getting the Mojo right now but after this glowing review of the Shadowcat I am having second thoughts.
The mojo is more playful. If you’re local and a size small I’m actually selling my wife’s mojo4 right now. I’ll bet she has less than 10 rides on it.
I am trying to decide between the Switchblade and shadow cat. I live east coast so raw Pisgah trails and flowy jump trails in Knoxville and i want to ride steep downhill Windrock bike park trails occasionally. I also like to do 20+ mile days on the bike so it is a tough question which would you pick?
It's hard to say... the SB is an excellent all around do every thing bike. The shadowcat might get overwhelmed on the longer more sustains descents. Good luck!
Hell Ya!
How tall is Tyler? Looks like he is riding a size small frame. You said you are 5'8" and riding the medium. I'm 5'6" and presently ride an Ibis Ripmo medium. Any insight on sizing of the pivot? Thanks!
Tyler is 5'6" and is sort of always in-between sizes...
How does this compare to the Ibis Mojo 4?
The Mojo4 is more playful.. more zippy and poppy. The Shadowcat feels more capable, damp and controlled. It's crazy to feel so deep and look down and see that small DPS shock out back. Crazy!
@@mtbyumyum That's so cool! I'll have to try one out. Thanks for all your vids man!
Demoed the shadowcat last month and really liked it a lot. Felt stiff and fun. Handled awsome. I have a v2 pivot 429 great bike except the shitty race face cranks. U could put shimano on this not super boost bike though. Jumped great made me want one
Yep, it's a fun bike for sure!
27.5s just look more fun.
Just a few observations, I think Pívot has done a great job at offering bikes where you can chose wheel size or mullet (rather than forcing you to go mullet like Santa Cruz in the 5010). Just one small gripe, I wish they specd a Grip2 on the 36 and offered a version with a Pivot tuned X2 or Float X (enduro version) like the trail 429. I’ve seen the factory team running those and it’s a great rig for slalom through to light enduro
Yeah, I think you’re right. The Pivot demo van driver runs his shadowcat with a Float X out back and 140mm 29er fox 36. Sounds fun!!
If you could think back to the Pivot Firebird 27.5, how does this Shadowcat compare to? Does it feel like a lighter, nimbler version of the 27.5 Firebird?
really difficult to say... it's been so long. My gut is telling me the 27.5 firebird was more burly feeling
@@mtbyumyum Perhaps a comparison is in order. Perhaps that 650b Firebird will come relevant again... geo seems to have peaked and walking backwards nowadays. Haha! But yeah. I'd want a Shadowcat myself but Pivot not selling frame-only options really busts the budget...
@@mtbyumyumUpdate - I got myself a Shadowcat! And from first ride experience the handling is uncanningly similar to the 650b 2018 Firebird; almost too alike.
Corners the same, has the same lean factor and "in the bike" feel... but with twice the fun on jumps and much, much more composed on climbs 🤙 Only downside is perhaps that Firebird has 30mm more travel which really comes into play on chunk and fast chatter but the Shadowcat handles that quite well too
Just to put it out here if anyone's looking for a comparison !
Best way to describe it climbing and descending would probably be simply “it’s a pivot”. Yes I’m a Pivot fan but it’s because their bikes just perform.
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Right on. Great video. Also guys it cost you NOTHING to smash that like button.
LETS GO!! Thanks dude!
Why did Pivot make this bike? Was hoping they were going to make a 160/140 29er; maybe call it the Mach 5 and finally, they got rid of Superboost. Something like an Ibis Ripmo.
140/160 isn't that the Switchblade?
How does dw link compare to maestro from giant???
Maestro is also a very good suspension platform but I don't really feel like it has the support the Pivot bikes have with their DW link
Is this more comfortable/softer/supple than the switchblade?
Yeah, in my experience this is a more comfortable supple bike. Just more easy going and damp feeling
Are Pivots still running press fit BB’s? Big fan of threaded.
I know it’s mainly just for marketing purposes, but I thought the Shadowcat was a “women’s” bike?
Pretty sure all bikes are unisex…. This is the first I’ve heard of this. Either way, it’s a fun bike!
650b bikes are the way.
Not every 27.5 bike needs to be a mullet. It defeats the purpose of the bike
I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the matter. In my experience, you loose nothing by putting a 29 er upfront but really gain a lot
Okay… this is your worst review. Is it a trail bike? A cross country? A wife bike” Or, a 6 inch travel all mountain? Maybe too much caffeine before this review YumYum.
haha sounds like I might need to go watch this one lol thanks for the feedback!
at 4:40 I specifically say it's not a cross country bike and again at 16:20 not a cx bike but a killer trail bike.... not sure if I'm missing something... I think I was very clear the Shadowcat in my experience in an excellent trail bike and a lot of fun!!
@@mtbyumyum ok ok, but let’s get down to brass tacks here: does it shred!?! Can you throw a 29 up front (because mullet is truly the best) and make the Shadowcat the one bike for all situations. Or, is my mach 6 still the king??? Lol… thanks for your reviews and help! I bought my bike from Salt Cycles because of you!
Thanks for your support! I still need to ride the M6.... looks amazing! The shadowcat is super interesting to me... would like to try it as a 140mm mullet
how does it compare to the ibis mojo in climbing and descending ?
You already answered this in a question below. Great video.