HOW VINCE GIRONDA GAINED ONE INCH ON HIS BICEPS!! USING LIVER!!
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- Опубліковано 2 лис 2019
- In this video, I discuss Vince Gironda's belief in the use of dessicated liver. He once claims to have gained up to 1 inch on his arms with the use of desiccated liver!! Although this statement does seem out of this world, liver is a super food. Enjoy!
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What about an actual liver from animals.. is it better?
LMAO
Good question lol
Yes, it works just as well or better. Beef liver, heart. Beef brain is considered a delicacy in many cultures. Pork feet which is good in gelatin, helps with joint pain and exercise recovery and has all the good fat. Chicken liver, gizzards. There is a myth in many cultures that if a person has a weak heart, they would feed him heart. If a person was dumb they would feed him brain. Ummmm.. Well.. But even if that might seem dumb, there is some truth to it. For example eating liver detoxifies and helps the functioning of your own liver. So there you go :)
Order from an organic farm, grass fed, eggs too, milk. Look on google and find close to your town. Lamb too. Liver, heart, brains. In the past, organs were best and meat second.
of course its better, you just cant break it ub throughout the day as effectively which is the key factor here, consistent nitrogen retention boosting effects from frequent protein adminstration doesnt occur by having a pound of liver in a sitting, it means your good to go until you've digested it then your not anabolic for 20 hours or so or inbetween meals. BUT BUT Paul Anderson and Johnny Fuller both blended it and drank it in basic water so yes its been done successfully.
I ordered 2 bottles of Beef Liver Capsules that are sold under the label of Vince's Gym.
I'm 63. I have worked out on and off since I quit smoking in 1978. Long work schedules (due to the nature of my career) led to many layoffs...But I always returned. I was also a serious cyclist. This year, the I GOTTA DO IT NOW obsession has hit. I started by doing a 30 day 100 push-ups a day challenge. Actually, I did anywhere from 125 - 200ish a day. I can feel the change after 22 days. Both in the firmness of the muscle, and I especially feel the muscle soreness. At the end of the 30 days, (which will be February 7th) I'm going to begin doing fullbody workouts 3 days a week.
This is my last chance to look "good". I'm not a "bodybuilder", I'll never have a "bodybuilders" body, but I can "fluff" the muscles and lose the fat.
Onward and upward.
Old timer here! Started training in 1965. Liver is a great supplement, but the one inch claim is absurd.
I never tried anything like that protocol but last time I had liver I ate 400g of it and the day after I felt so euphoric and full of energy I looked on drugs.
I also feel good on liver
but from which animal? and what are liver tablets? Tablets that contain their ingredients or actual liver pressed into a tablet?
@@utrippin7486 beef liver defatted and shock freezed in tablett form or capsules
@Steady Eddie i wouldnt eat it, and i just looked it up those capsules are extremely expensive especially when u take 20-30 a day... even one a day would be expensive lol srsly i cant get liver down my throat haha
@@utrippin7486 beef grassfed
an old butcher told me that lamb liver was the best tasting -if you just wanna eat it. liver & onions with gravy & mash potatoe was something my mother used to cook when i was a kid ....great healthy & filling meal. starving just thinking about it !
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I'm an endurance runner - I've been using Beverly brand liver tabs. that a friend turned me on too... I notice the most benefit at the end of my runs, and general recovery. I take this with NAD precursor in the mornings. Thanks for Showcasing this simple but very effective supplement.
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When I was a kid my doctor put me on dessicated liver and theragran m. I don't remember why I was about 10 or 11. I also took it while bodybuilding as a teen. Brewers yeast, Bcomplex...etc. I was very into Vince's methods and concepts. Great vid!!
How did you take Brewers Yeast? (Not to be confused with Nutritional Yeast. . )
@@theironforce3000 Stir it into water or juice and drink it fast
@@theironforce3000 Chet Yorton had the habit of putting a serving in a glass of raw milk and drinking it at a meal. 2 such glasses at meals were a norm.
Great info here! Vince delivers once again.
I'm keen to try this protocol of his.
I've been on dessicated liver tabs for over a year now . Daily.
But deff not taking the amount that Vince states.
I'll do 4 in the AM and 4 in the PM.
^.^!
I'll try out soon.
2 weeks.
That's manageable .
How’d it go???
Very interesting.
Leroy Colbert talked about Dessicated Liver Tablets many times in his videos. A lot of the guys in his era took them.
Leroy believed in supplements so much that he opened a few supplement stores.
Leroy was a supplement genius too. Most recomended dosages of him were to low to really work but he had a huge knowledge
@@pascalhackbeil3888 Thanks, i will look into those things if I can find some info. The last time I searched his website was gone.
From what I remember he had supplement stores on both coasts. Weider even helped get them started for him.
The Heme B-12 and co-factors from the desiccated liver would create increased blood volume and the increase in red blood cells would lead to bigger pumps. The 1 inch gain on his arms was likely measured when fully pumped vs cold measurement. It's still a large increase, but believable because it's temporary due the pumped measurement. But desiccated liver is a great supp for bodybuilding and to keep blood sugar levels steady. Vince used to recommend taking it with nutritional yeast tabs as they were supposed to work synergistically. Great channel. I love the old school training, diet and lifting you are covering. You have the best channel of its kind on UA-cam. Thanks Golden Era Bookworm.
I couldn't agree more about honoring animals by using every part. It's the least we can do for taking their lives! Up until the 80s and early 90s protein based weight gainer powders were very over priced and just plain tasted awful. Desiccated liver tablets were staple for boosting amino acids and proteins. Definitely as equally effective as a quality protien powder or liquid amino supplement, never thought of adding them together. Gonna give it a try!
Glad this came out. Actually just started an experiment on myself today. Going to eat 1lb of beef liver a day, so half of my meat intake for the day. This was inspired by Reeve's B12 injections you mentioned in a previous video. Just ordered some Boron too as its been shown to increase free flowing testosterone (aiming to take 9mg a day). For anyone wondering. Im doing 4 days a week full body. My main lifts are in the style of the 20 rep breathing squat. secondary lifts are 3x10. So 16 working sets per body part a week. I'll keep you guys updated on progress :) . Love this channel! full no BS golden nuggets.
Mate...if you want to take something to increase endogenous testosterone, look into Aromatase Inhibitors like Aromasin or SERMs like Nolvadex. Can be used synergistically. Make sure to cycle them. They work by inhibiting an enzyme (aromatase) which turns testosterone into estrogen which obviously increases the amount of T in the blood stream. But to top that, they also stimulate the pituitary gland to release more LH and FSH which is why steroid users use them when coming off a steroid cycle to WAKE their testicles up and produce natural testosterone. They are THAT effective. Legit also being used in TRT/HRT clinics for people with hypogonadism and to boost height in children with low hormonal levels. So they obviously work profoundly for naturals. I mean what guy wants small balls and give up their god given testosterone for a needle? Fuck gear. Bodybuilders that are on it are like a walking irony.
Just beware of the bullshit in muscle mags! Back in the late 80s 90s the muscle mags where pushing pills containing smilax officionallis ( not sure about the spelling) they all called it the natural steroid, was really expensive ( as you can imagine) you could buy a big bag of the stuff from a local herbalist for 50pence! What a load of crap! As usual it did nothing!!
@@Knosferatu serms are way more harmful than a reasonable dose of testosterone. Who cares how big their balls are lol small potatoes make the steak look bigger. Also HCG can fix that if you don't go too crazy with the gear. Or don't mess with serms, roids, SARMs etc and eat healthy exercise and be happy with just being healthier and improving yourself without playing Russian roulette with your endocrine system.
How’d it go?
How was it?
This is very detailed information on the nutrition content of liver. You included a lot of facts about liver being a potent food. I tried liver tablets years ago. Unfortunately the taste was so bad that I couldn't take any more tablets and eventually topped taking them. I should have continued to take them but couldn't handle the taste.
I swallow them whole, so no taste. But I don't think they taste bad. I know some people can't stand the taste or even the smell of liver cooking.
@@nadnavlis240 Yes, you are right it being hard to handle the taste or smell of liver. Swallowing the tablets whole can help avoid tasting it, but I am ot able to swallow any pills or tablets whole.
Nice
I've been taking desiccated liver for a couple of months now and I have made gains however, I believe that a lot of those gains are from muscle memory as I had to stop working out for quite a long time due to having back surgery.
Okay when I do my Egg Cycle next year I'm also gonna supplement desiccated liver tablets.
Cool
You are sick mate. Make sure you PCT with natural THC sources. Ph and stay natural.
@@Knosferatu PCT??? THC????
@@Vairocana23Revived PTC=Post Cycle Therapy, presumably?
I tried the dessicated Liver tablets back when I was working out at Vince's...But they would cause you to burp up the taste...ALL....DAY...LONG!. Just so you know for those who may want to try them... Vince sold them in bottles... I just got tired of that taste and quit taking them. That tablets were quite large compared to normal size tablets, as well.
I’m 32 and I take desiccated beef liver tablets. I definitely am more vascular and harder while I’m on these. I work 12 hour shifts and the energy difference when I’m on these and not insignificant. My pumps in the gym or better And I feel stronger. My red blood cell count was a little off and this made a significant difference. I’ll take about 20 to 30 a day. I absolutely love them. Universal Uniliver
12-16 day is plenty.
I take 12 a day and that already runs me about $60 a month I don’t think I can afford to more than double that…lol do you need to worry about vitamin A toxicity with that much?
@@Shoutinthewind 360 tablets month shouldn’t cost you $60. More like $20-$22.
20-30/day? How much do you actually spend on that? Geez.
I wish he'd have stated exactly how much per tablet he was taking. As in the dosage per tablet. That makes a big difference in knowing that.
I’ve been taking liver tabs for a while now and tend to enjoy them since I see it as food and good low cal way to get added protein. My nails seem to grown faster, stronger and shinier. Therefore, I’m sure other things benefit as well. The only down side is their size and that you normally take in 3-6+ per sitting depending on need. Lastly and fortunately I do enjoy eating liver and incorporate it my diet when I’m training. Cheap, effective and tasty if done right.
try this: mix 2 eggs with 200g of beef/lamb liver. (salt and 1/2 cup Greek yoghurt) fry like pancake on medium low heat. once it start coagulate on top flip and don't overcook. 5 seconds on the other side and done... serve with maple syrup, berries, rice or fruit. thank me later. everyone loves this recipe. and that includes people who don't like liver
I eat raw liver dipped in hot mustard. Absolutely delicious and cheap.
I do notice more energy when I eat it.
Thoughts on liver pate?
So have the liver pills changed any? The ones I have seem to have a good amount of iron in them. I don’t think taking that many would be smart
Yes. I actually did this. Not every hour as stated in the video however. Our weight lifting coach was from E. Germany initially. He had us eat dessicated liver daily. If we had none, we ate raw liver daily, on the order of 6oz per day. We froze it, then cut it into pill size pieces then swallowed them like pills. Our strength did increase quite a bit as did our size. We cycled this, 3 weeks on, one week off for 6 months. He swore by it and said that it was quite common in the eastern bloc, who at the time dominated weightlifting (olympic style). It worked every time we did it. We were advised not to do it year round, due to the iron content. Also make sure to drink plenty of water, as that can effect the hemoglobin if you are on the dehydrated side.
a recipe for doing so? Everytime I tried cutting that, or freezing it was a huge mess
@@t-bone6636 It can get messy because it melts fast. What we did was lay them out flat on plastic wrap, freeze a day, take one at a time out, take a big sharp knife, actually a clever works best. Cut 5-6 strips length wise, then just cut across for however big you want the pieces. Lay them out again in rows on another piece of plastic wrap and throw them back in the freezer. Then just go swallow a row with some tomato juice or whatever like pills a few times a day. Have to cut fast, it does melt and gets sticky quick.
I'll give you a hint, the Eastern Bloc did crush everyone, but it wasn't from liver...
@@michaelolin2219 No one said that it was. However, they were quite advanced compared to the US. It wasn't just drugs. Every country used those. Their training methods and legal supplements helped a lot. They were using creatine 25 years before the US even heard of it for example.
@@flynlow43 truth.
I ordered some Universal dissected liver tabs.
Try Solgar or Beverly International....higher quality in my opinion.
Same one i've been on for several months. Solid product for those on a budget.
Promix Nutrition makes one that’s 100% grass fed from New Zealand cattle. Literally has no other ingredients or fillers, only one ingredient which is the bovine liver. It’s also the best price I’ve been able to find. So it’s a win-win. $25 for 180 capsules, 500mg per capsule.
It works.
@@MG-jy5qx It's much cheaper to just buy the powder in bulk, then mix a tablespoon with a little water and drink it down. I used to buy 5 lbs for $80, which is $16 a 1 lb (454 grams) unit price of desiccated liver powder. You are paying $25 for a mere 90 grams. At that unit price, it would cost you $126 to buy one lb.
I was watching this while eating liver.
When someone says they take X-number of pills every hour, how many hours are they generally speaking? 8 hours? Every hour they are awake, right up to the moment they go to bed?
Ive started using nsp nutrition liver tablets 25 a day for first 2 bottles now dropping to 12 to 15 a day .its a pain ordering from AUstralia though takes couple weeks to get here
If i had to choose only one supplement it definitely would be dessicated liver.
I took them year around between meals.
You can see and feel a large difference if you don't take them for a while.
It's absolutely necessary to chew them ( they're tasting horrible ) for better digestion and take them spread throughout the day
That's why I choose liver powder
whats the difference between regular liver and dessicated liver?
would it be better to eat regular liver?
@@mogts regular liver is just as good...if eaten RAW. I stir fry it for 30 sec so it's raw on the inside....not for everybody. That's why most supplement with desiccated liver
@@GoldenEraBookworm the only dessicated liver i can become here in germany are liver tabs from universal nutrition so i have to live with that. Powder whould be great to. Now nutrition makes a powder as i know but couldn't get it here
@@mogts you also can buy fresh liver, cut it in small pieces and put it for 14 days in the freezer. You can swallow a few of them every few hours
I do enjoy liver and onions on occasion. A lot of people are put off by it due to the metallic taste, but I've always enjoyed it.
To have a benefit of liver you have to eat it raw because the heat kills almost every vitamin, mineral and so on. So liver tabs are much easier to take
Love my liver and onions!
@@pascalhackbeil3888 I fry my liver, 30sec each side, raw on the inside
@@GoldenEraBookworm if you can handle it, perfect.
I can't stand the taste and consistence of liver so i chew liver tabs together with flavoured bcaa's
Liver tastes better now then it did when i was younger, im 45. Very few people eat liver anymore. Our elders ate liver an didnt seem to get sick as much. Im enrolled in the Ponca tribe in nebraska usa, you know how to make videos, you dont ramble on an stay on point.
Never quite worked up the nerve to buy raw liver and try and fry it up, but I do like braunscweiger though it's not 100% liver it's very easy to eat. Might try some liver pills if my local nutrition store sells them, that may be the easiest way to get some liver in on a daily basis. Not expecting to gain an inch on the arms, they would be 50 inches by now from all the different things that were supposed to add an inch.
LOL
WHERE CAN I GET DESSICATED LIVER CAPSULES?
UNI-LIVER/Universal Nutrition
But keep in mind that the liver filters everything in the body and it is essential that the tablets come from cattle raised freely and not fed with concentrates and injected with Antibiotics!
It must be remembered that the liver does not store toxins. It filters them out so they can then be excreted from the body.
36 eggs vs dessicated liver? Which is better?
I eat liver from barely thawed to jerky style. Just put it in your fridge, you can’t go wrong, EVEN if it grows lots of bacteria. It is still a living food as long as you don’t kill it with heat.
If Vince had a one inch gain in the bicep, did he have any gain in other muscle groups?
Apparently, and so did the rest of his clients
Also very high in cholesterol. Probably useful for the same reason as eggs.
whats the difference between regular liver and dessicated liver?
would it be better to eat regular liver?
Golden Era Bookworm
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@M O S regular liver is just as good...if eaten RAW. I stir fry it for 30 sec so it's raw on the inside....not for everybody. That's why most supplement with desiccated liver
What about vitamin A overdose??
Can you use liver tabs year round? Can it replace protein powder?
That would be expensive, but yes...or just eat it
@@GoldenEraBookworm Good news for me then. Thank you for the response. I prefer to swallow liver tabs then to constantly be mixing protein powders. Universal Nutrition sells them at a reasonable price. Liver tabs and beef Amino tabs.
grand poo-bah yeah those two are good deal, large quantities low price, I’m going to start using those two products myself.
@@269adventures I wouldn't use tablets, capsules and powders yes
When I drink i take huge amounts of desiccated liver before during and day after
If you eat bad when you drink being bother taking them while you drink. You won't absorb them correctly
i belive heres why.he was ketogenitc this means no insulin resistance.his cells were wide open recieving the nutrients....look at runners high intake carbs they can eat tons of protein they will be the same
I gained muscle by switching to anavar. Lol 😂
@Chris burke 🥜 size. Lol 😂
😂🤣😂It's not that kinda channel brother lol
Hahaha
That comment of yours wasn't even funny. It was practically stupid
@@earlcoles5215 who fucking asked you
Years ago I knew a Simi pro bodybuilder who use it to go to my family's store and drink the blood that was always in the bag that the beef liver came in.
That's the left arm of Freddie Ortiz, not Vince Gironda. Check it out...😉
Beverly International dedicated liver is everything they say it is. If you can dig up my 1984 AAU Teen Southern Indiana photos. I couldn't afford the Rights to my own photos or I would show you... I took 18 a day up to two weeks out. It's probably the single best supplement still today...
I don't understand, 1 inch is normal, whats so wow in it ?
I took liver pills and i really was amazing quick result but didn't match my stomach lot problems so i had to stop 🥺
Did vince recommend taking all the supplements you had in your previous video along with liver tabs? Or should you cut out vitamins A, B, and C for example, since you get so much of that in liver tabs?
Vince was like Jack LaLanne in a way, they had laundry lists of supplements theyd do daily. but at the top of Vince list would be the liver, if anything following that would of been the rna tablets, the kelp thing was huge, the b12, vitamin c could of come from anywhere if you werent dieting, such as oranges, but often Vince would use all of them but in terms of recommendations for bodybuilders the most common thing i heard a million times over was 36 dessicated beef liver THROUGHOUT THE DAY and his typical half and half famous egg shake you split over 2-3 servings along with the liver tabs.
I was desecrated once........ONCE!
fuck yeah, dessicated liver was and is the best FOOD you could actually consume, it isnt a supplement its liver in the form of a pill. but the dosages thats the defining factor, Vince often went up to 36, Arnold supposedly went up to 100, ive heard of guys downing a 100 tab bottle twice a day broken inbeteewen 4 meals like breakfast,pre workout,post workout and before bed. i recall getting it so cheap i was doing 300 a day, so i was getting several hundred extra grams of protein a day um my diet probably got up to 600g of protein a day total, so around the amount Nubret and Michalik consistently consumed. i actually grew on it, i found that my recovery was absurdly quick, but people are treating it as a supplement not a food, you cant expect to grow on it if your only using just enough to get half a meals worth of protein out of it. Paul Anderson used to put an entire liver in a blender and just drink it, thats technically the most effective way but its probably not palatable.
By the way he was also a fan of mixing this with his famous half and half concoction with a dozen eggs and did that 3 times a day for the famous 36 total, you've got to of heard of his famous half and half heavy cream with eggs thing he split throughout the day also. it was one of his goto weight gain drinks, so it is quite possible he actually in practice recommended doing both, but in terms of this experiment he was doing only the liver at progressively higher doses than what were stated. heres a funny little story though, he trained Mohammed Mokkawy right, and a week before a show Mohammed was living exclsuively on liver tablets, water and amino acids. theres an article somewhere on that you can read its quite interesting. even articles on his famous drink^
LOL...I revived the 36 eggs a day diet...I even have a playlist
I've thought about this before.
It's a tough story to swallow from Vince.
My thoughts , Liver contains a huge amount of Creatine , tho , nobody mentions this. Liver tabs being freeze-dried & pressed , the Creatine is preserved quite nicely(heat destroys creatine).
I'm thinking each liver tab has close to a gram of creatine , thats ALOT of creative Vince was taking...not to mention all the protein and B6 and B12( 4 oxygen and protein delivery)and positive nitrogen balance. Vince's was a "pumper" too.
I put on about 1.5 inches on my arm in 3 months(less than 17 1/4 to 18 5/8s cold) eatting two pounds of lean ground beef and 10 grams of creatine day.
Had a work acquaintance put on 2 inches on his arm in 3 months.
One inch in a month....hard to believe but not impossible....because I know someone who put on an inch on his arms in less than two weeks from high rep squats combined with arms and plenty of rest....my wife and I measured the guys arms ourselves.
You can super-charge the creatine by taking .5 g/kg of baking soda and 20 grams of creatine together.
vince probably said those things just so he could sell his liver capsules
Why not just eat real grass fed liver instead of tablets????
Because the tablets are a concentrated form of liver. 1 lb desiccated liver = 4 lbs fresh liver.
When I'm out of desiccated liver powder, I drink liver shakes made with 1/4 of cooked beef liver, blended with 5 oz water. That is roughly equal to 1 rounded tablespoon of liver powder.
Animal abuse
1ST OFF THIS BI PIC BELONGS TO ORTIZ 2ND LIVER TABS OR POWDER IS DIFFICULT TO DIGEST LET ALONE ASSIMILATE..MOST USERS JUST SHIT IT OUT .GOOD LUCK