I've been watching these for a few months now, and I just want to say thanks for the level of detail you put in these. Reading comprehension has always been my worst skill and these retros really give me a new prespective that I was incapable of coming to myself ultimately giving me a new level of appreciation for these shows.
Without a doubt my favorite part of this show was world building. Republic City, that one metal city, bending games, air nation rebirth, the black lotus and their new bending methods and more. It was such a well expanded show with some off seasons and plot choices. I still remember how dark season 3 was on the first watch, especially with me thinking they'd still keep with the 3 season structure.
Super, genuinely excited. You make some of my favorite videos ever. You touch on some of my biggest comfort shows. The only ones missing are adventure time, American Dad and Bob's burgers haha
Something that really annoys me about the show is that Sokka gets almost nothing. Anng, Toph, Katara and Zuko all have pretty important roles so it’s really weird that Sokka is the only one that gets left out. He’s in a flashback in season 1 and that’s about it and Suki isn’t even mentioned in the show at all despite being a part of team avatar by the end of the original show. We don’t even know if her and Sokka ended up getting married or anything. We just have no idea and it’s really weird
In part, I think this is because of the comics covering some of the years following the original story as well as the showrunners not wanting to lean too heavily into relying on nostalgia-baiting. But then it feels like a huge missed opportunity considering how much he had done historically between inventing the submarine and the hot air balloon - it's honestly almost unrealistic that we wouldn't have heard more about him.
i have like 2-3 different pronunciations for each character throughout the entire video my scripts even have pronunciation guides the first time a character's name appears i have no idea why i keep doing this
The original show is great but has some problems. Like I’m not a fan of Anng not wanting to kill the fire lord. It comes out of almost nowhere. If it had been mentioned from the start of the show that Anng didn’t want to kill the fire lord he wanted to find another way around the problem and a good amount of the episodes focused on that that would be fine but that’s not what happens. Anng not wanting to kill The fire lord isn’t brought up until the series finale and it feels so stupid. It just makes Anng look like the biggest dumbass. Anng saying that he has never killed Anyone is so laughably untrue. Energy bending also sucks since that also comes out of completely nowhere and was not mentioned at all until the finale. I’m also not at fan of everything with Tophs parents. it’s never concluded in anyway and we’re only ever told about how apparently Tophs parents didn’t love her but we’re never shown that. In fact that doesn’t even make sense. They sent guys to go and bring her back to them. If they didn’t care about her, why would they do that? I really like avatar but is absolutely not perfect and I feel like a lot of people treat it like it is The legend of Korra on the other hand has a lot more problems than the original show. Season 2 isn’t that good, the love triangle stuff in the first two seasons is painful to watch, fart bending being a thing drains my soul. However the show does still have some really good things about it that definitely makes it worth watching. I think the annoying thing about Korra is that it had the opportunity to surpass the original show and at times it even feels like it does but it has so many stupid writing problems that hold it back. I think Avatar is the better show but Korra has more moments that stick with me, if that makes any sense
Him wanting to spare Ozai's life is in line with his character, but it didn't need to be the biggest dilemma of the final season. There are so many different ways you could punish Ozai without killing him. He could just be locked up, or maimed, or put in a block of stone. I don't understand why it was such a hard debate. And in the end Aang never even had to make a decision for himself, the lion turtle just showed up and gave him the answer. What a cop out. So that whole arc was for nothing. Definitely a low point in the writing of ATLA. I completely get you and agree that ATLA is still a better show, but Korra has moments that really stick with you! And personally, I’m more like Korra than Aang.
Well I always liked how more advanced bending techniques are more common in Korra. Mostly because I thought of Iroh in Avatar. Where he mentioned he invented Lightning Bending. How? By adapting the techniques of Water Benders to Fire Bending. While he wasn't the Avatar and thus couldn't use a different element, he was able to evolve his own through adapting the knowledge of others. So it always made sense to me that in a more peaceful and united world that there was more likely to be things like Lightning Benders around. And I wondered what other techniques might have came from similar blending of styles and cultures. Though I will say at the time I was confused by the whole schism of "Benders vs Non-Benders". Mostly because we kind of saw that Bending wasn't a bloodline thing. I mean it makes sense in terms of aping Japanese Anime, and thus Japanese culture itself. Where often when push comes to shove in their storytelling Bloodline is more important than Virtue. Which is a sharp contrast to the western styles of Storytelling where Virtue has primacy and often is used to reinforce the legitimacy of Bloodline (even if it's mentioned at all). It's a fascinating contrast for me when I first discovered it. Say, comparing legendary outlaw characters. From the English Robin Hood who was all about piety, virtues, and good deeds and punishing corruption (For example in one of the earliest tales recorded he lets an honest, pious knight go free, in fact shares charity with him and helps him, but in turn robs an abbot blind who was a corrupt figure using his status to accrue wealth instead of serving god), to the Japanese Goemon (A man who's wife and child were kidnapped by a lord, who went on a quest to save them as a bandit and outlaw, and eventually was tortured to death by said lord who got away with everything including sexual relations with his wife against her will to avoid using terms that UA-cam would block). Because ultimately in England the Virtue was important, while in Japan the Bloodline meant the struggle had to be futile, and instead carry a lesson about how the role of their not quite caste was to suffer. But more so in Avatar... going back to the first season they highlight time and again that bending isn't something inherent to a bloodline or something you're "Born with" like some genetic trait or mutation. That it is entirely a case of training. Toph became a bender because she studied and imitated the Badger-Moles. Kitara became a Water Bender by trying to emulate the memory of her dead mother. There were legitimate schools that taught anyone how to bend in the Earth Kingdom just like it was any other skill (Aang even attended one for a bit before deciding it wasn't for him). So the idea of kind of treating the conflict as Haves vs Have Nots in a class and caste divide as it were is... weird to me. It almost felt like the show runners forgot that aspect and just focused on the fact that in the old Team Avatar there were characters who weren't Benders (Sokka and Suki) and just assumed that they weren't benders because it was impossible. Instead of what it actually was. They learned to be Warriors instead of Benders, either not having the temperament or desire to learn bending. It always stuck in the back of my mind as a strange detail. Maybe I was just reading the wrong things in stuff. Maybe Toph really did learn Bending because she had some sort of spiritual mutant power gene as it were instead of by observation and practice? I mean it makes sense in terms of the Avatar being the only one to master all four elements because if it was just a skill, why couldn't anyone else learn to? But then again we saw that so much of bending was cultural and emotional that it might respresent something a bit deeper, but not actually bloodline related. Iroh learns firebending because that's what the culture and emotions he was brought up with allowed him to do. He learned Lightning Bending because he was worldly and traveled, learning the techniques of Water Benders and how to apply it to his own arts, rather than just learning Water Bending. Because he couldn't fundamentally change who he was entirely? I don't know. it's just a weird question that the plot always makes me think about. Because the show almost treats it entirely like it's a case of some natural born talent only and why the conflict would even exist. It's not a bad plot overall. I like how it kind of alludes to the industrialization of society and the battles between the new urban populations, laborers, growing wealth classes, and sort of the 'Old guard" of aristocratic land owners that found they were losing out the share of wealth and power that had dominated society for so long. Forced to either adapt or try to resist what was going on in ways that lead to massive discord and strife (such as in Tsarist Russia for example). It just felt like something was missing or had to be ignored or I got the entirely wrong interpretation of how things worked to kind of force that plotline.
Though with current events the Water Tribe Civil War becomes... a lot more interesting. A clear aggressor. People who rather not be taken over militarily . What nations not involved are doing, or not doing about it... shows that good writing is always going to find its own applicability to the world.
I love Bolin's line:"Mr.Sato, you are a BAD FATHER!" Bolin is a POLITE young man, no matter what.
I've been watching these for a few months now, and I just want to say thanks for the level of detail you put in these. Reading comprehension has always been my worst skill and these retros really give me a new prespective that I was incapable of coming to myself ultimately giving me a new level of appreciation for these shows.
Without a doubt my favorite part of this show was world building. Republic City, that one metal city, bending games, air nation rebirth, the black lotus and their new bending methods and more. It was such a well expanded show with some off seasons and plot choices. I still remember how dark season 3 was on the first watch, especially with me thinking they'd still keep with the 3 season structure.
Super, genuinely excited. You make some of my favorite videos ever. You touch on some of my biggest comfort shows.
The only ones missing are adventure time, American Dad and Bob's burgers haha
love your content, looking forward to this! Hope this is like 5 hours long lol
Something that really annoys me about the show is that Sokka gets almost nothing. Anng, Toph, Katara and Zuko all have pretty important roles so it’s really weird that Sokka is the only one that gets left out. He’s in a flashback in season 1 and that’s about it and Suki isn’t even mentioned in the show at all despite being a part of team avatar by the end of the original show. We don’t even know if her and Sokka ended up getting married or anything. We just have no idea and it’s really weird
In part, I think this is because of the comics covering some of the years following the original story as well as the showrunners not wanting to lean too heavily into relying on nostalgia-baiting.
But then it feels like a huge missed opportunity considering how much he had done historically between inventing the submarine and the hot air balloon - it's honestly almost unrealistic that we wouldn't have heard more about him.
Well I'm excited!!!!
Yakon-eh? Don't be M night. The show speaks names out loud.
i have like 2-3 different pronunciations for each character throughout the entire video
my scripts even have pronunciation guides the first time a character's name appears i have no idea why i keep doing this
Pronounced all these wrong: Ayemon, yakonaye, var(like far)ick, ton-rack, admiral zao lmfao.
Are you ever planning to do Breaking Bad / Better Call Saul if you haven't yet?
I haven't covered anything live action yet. But if I do start on non-animated properties, that's one of the first shows I would consider.
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The original show is great but has some problems. Like I’m not a fan of Anng not wanting to kill the fire lord. It comes out of almost nowhere. If it had been mentioned from the start of the show that Anng didn’t want to kill the fire lord he wanted to find another way around the problem and a good amount of the episodes focused on that that would be fine but that’s not what happens. Anng not wanting to kill The fire lord isn’t brought up until the series finale and it feels so stupid. It just makes Anng look like the biggest dumbass. Anng saying that he has never killed Anyone is so laughably untrue. Energy bending also sucks since that also comes out of completely nowhere and was not mentioned at all until the finale. I’m also not at fan of everything with Tophs parents. it’s never concluded in anyway and we’re only ever told about how apparently Tophs parents didn’t love her but we’re never shown that. In fact that doesn’t even make sense. They sent guys to go and bring her back to them. If they didn’t care about her, why would they do that? I really like avatar but is absolutely not perfect and I feel like a lot of people treat it like it is
The legend of Korra on the other hand has a lot more problems than the original show. Season 2 isn’t that good, the love triangle stuff in the first two seasons is painful to watch, fart bending being a thing drains my soul. However the show does still have some really good things about it that definitely makes it worth watching. I think the annoying thing about Korra is that it had the opportunity to surpass the original show and at times it even feels like it does but it has so many stupid writing problems that hold it back. I think Avatar is the better show but Korra has more moments that stick with me, if that makes any sense
Him wanting to spare Ozai's life is in line with his character, but it didn't need to be the biggest dilemma of the final season. There are so many different ways you could punish Ozai without killing him. He could just be locked up, or maimed, or put in a block of stone. I don't understand why it was such a hard debate. And in the end Aang never even had to make a decision for himself, the lion turtle just showed up and gave him the answer. What a cop out. So that whole arc was for nothing. Definitely a low point in the writing of ATLA.
I completely get you and agree that ATLA is still a better show, but Korra has moments that really stick with you! And personally, I’m more like Korra than Aang.
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I bet this video will be better then the actual show.
Taankg tanked btw
1:46 JJK reference ????
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Well I always liked how more advanced bending techniques are more common in Korra. Mostly because I thought of Iroh in Avatar. Where he mentioned he invented Lightning Bending. How? By adapting the techniques of Water Benders to Fire Bending. While he wasn't the Avatar and thus couldn't use a different element, he was able to evolve his own through adapting the knowledge of others.
So it always made sense to me that in a more peaceful and united world that there was more likely to be things like Lightning Benders around. And I wondered what other techniques might have came from similar blending of styles and cultures.
Though I will say at the time I was confused by the whole schism of "Benders vs Non-Benders". Mostly because we kind of saw that Bending wasn't a bloodline thing. I mean it makes sense in terms of aping Japanese Anime, and thus Japanese culture itself. Where often when push comes to shove in their storytelling Bloodline is more important than Virtue. Which is a sharp contrast to the western styles of Storytelling where Virtue has primacy and often is used to reinforce the legitimacy of Bloodline (even if it's mentioned at all).
It's a fascinating contrast for me when I first discovered it. Say, comparing legendary outlaw characters. From the English Robin Hood who was all about piety, virtues, and good deeds and punishing corruption (For example in one of the earliest tales recorded he lets an honest, pious knight go free, in fact shares charity with him and helps him, but in turn robs an abbot blind who was a corrupt figure using his status to accrue wealth instead of serving god), to the Japanese Goemon (A man who's wife and child were kidnapped by a lord, who went on a quest to save them as a bandit and outlaw, and eventually was tortured to death by said lord who got away with everything including sexual relations with his wife against her will to avoid using terms that UA-cam would block). Because ultimately in England the Virtue was important, while in Japan the Bloodline meant the struggle had to be futile, and instead carry a lesson about how the role of their not quite caste was to suffer.
But more so in Avatar... going back to the first season they highlight time and again that bending isn't something inherent to a bloodline or something you're "Born with" like some genetic trait or mutation. That it is entirely a case of training. Toph became a bender because she studied and imitated the Badger-Moles. Kitara became a Water Bender by trying to emulate the memory of her dead mother. There were legitimate schools that taught anyone how to bend in the Earth Kingdom just like it was any other skill (Aang even attended one for a bit before deciding it wasn't for him).
So the idea of kind of treating the conflict as Haves vs Have Nots in a class and caste divide as it were is... weird to me. It almost felt like the show runners forgot that aspect and just focused on the fact that in the old Team Avatar there were characters who weren't Benders (Sokka and Suki) and just assumed that they weren't benders because it was impossible. Instead of what it actually was. They learned to be Warriors instead of Benders, either not having the temperament or desire to learn bending.
It always stuck in the back of my mind as a strange detail. Maybe I was just reading the wrong things in stuff. Maybe Toph really did learn Bending because she had some sort of spiritual mutant power gene as it were instead of by observation and practice? I mean it makes sense in terms of the Avatar being the only one to master all four elements because if it was just a skill, why couldn't anyone else learn to? But then again we saw that so much of bending was cultural and emotional that it might respresent something a bit deeper, but not actually bloodline related. Iroh learns firebending because that's what the culture and emotions he was brought up with allowed him to do. He learned Lightning Bending because he was worldly and traveled, learning the techniques of Water Benders and how to apply it to his own arts, rather than just learning Water Bending. Because he couldn't fundamentally change who he was entirely?
I don't know. it's just a weird question that the plot always makes me think about. Because the show almost treats it entirely like it's a case of some natural born talent only and why the conflict would even exist.
It's not a bad plot overall. I like how it kind of alludes to the industrialization of society and the battles between the new urban populations, laborers, growing wealth classes, and sort of the 'Old guard" of aristocratic land owners that found they were losing out the share of wealth and power that had dominated society for so long. Forced to either adapt or try to resist what was going on in ways that lead to massive discord and strife (such as in Tsarist Russia for example).
It just felt like something was missing or had to be ignored or I got the entirely wrong interpretation of how things worked to kind of force that plotline.
Though with current events the Water Tribe Civil War becomes... a lot more interesting. A clear aggressor. People who rather not be taken over militarily . What nations not involved are doing, or not doing about it... shows that good writing is always going to find its own applicability to the world.
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