The Legend of Korra is Amazing (and I'm Tired of Pretending its Not) - MattCMG
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0:00 Intro
3:35 Development History
5:53 Korra
31:56 Mako
41:26 Bolin
54:00 Asami (and Hiroshi too apparently)
1:03:00 Tenzin
1:14:15 Lin Biefong
1:21:17 Varrick
1:28:07 Suyin
1:33:41 The Old Gaang
1:41:19 Amon
1:48:11 Unalaq
1:53:28 Zaheer
2:01:55 Kuvira
2:08:47 Book 1: Air
2:26:38 Book 2: Spirits
2:43:07 Beginnings
2:55:01 Book 3: Change
3:06:01 Book 4: Balance
3:19:26 Themes
3:35:02 Korra's Troubling Production
3:37:43 Conclusion
3:41:54 Korra AMV - Greatest Change
Over the years, I've talked a lot about the divisive sequel to Avatar: The Last Airbender, known as The Legend of Korra. I've become known for my old video defending the show from the barrage of unfair criticism that it seemed to receive, but since that video my tune has actually changed a bit. The Legend of Korra is not a perfect show by any means, but its nowhere close to the worst thing ever. Today, I'll be detailing all the fantastic things that can be found in The Legend of Korra and why I believe that it is a worthy successor to the Avatar legacy. #thelegendofkorra #korra - Фільми й анімація
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I am willing to say S3-S4 are fine/good at the very least but the writing for S1-S2 is an absolute insult to character arc writing.
Your defense of Korra learning airbending ignores previously established rules both in ATLA and in the show itself. Airbending is all about detachment (opposite of being attached to Mako) and being indirect. We get a whole episode in ATLA where Aang has to learn earthbending, the opposite of airbending, by standing his ground and his entire philosophy is to find a way around things. In LOK itself we're shown that airbending is about circular movements and slithering through obstacles through footwork. Korra only just learns some of the footwork by the time Amon takes her bending away, and she definitely hasn't learned the philosophy of working her way around obstacles and being clever like Aang is prone to doing. It's simply extremely rushed development and an unearned powerup no matter which way you look at it, because you simply don't go from not being able to bend at all to being able to generate multiple gusts of wind powerful enough to be used in combat. We see in ATLA that whenever Aang learned to bend water, fire, or earth, he could only manipulate tiny portions of the element at a time. And in real life, people just don't get good in a literal blink of an eye.
On top of that, because mastery is air is not tied to the stuff you said, there's no evidence she overcame any of the emotional obstacles that you listed. That's all headcannon. She simply wanted to protect Mako, and no, there's no evidence she "realized" she loved Mako because she's made her attachment to him quite clear (so clear that she forcibly kissed a man who said he wasn't interested and had a girlfriend, try excusing THAT).
I don't see Korra learning patience either. Where was her patience when she hatched her brilliant plan to accuse Amon without evidence in front of his supporters? Where was her patience in Season 2 when she got fed up with Tenzin babying her again? These are the larger opportunities to show long term patience in comparison to the just "waiting for the time to strike" which is a pretty small scale example. It doesn't take a patient person to realize that when you're surrounded by the enemy you need to find your time to escape. You even admit that she struggles with it throughout the series, so I wouldn't even count this as a piece of character growth for her in S1.
Her growth being reset at the start of S2 does make sense, but it also makes her super unlikable as a character because we've already seen an entire season of her being cocky, brash, disrespectful, and impulsive, and she only defeated Amon because she caught him by surprise on accident. After the whole ordeal with disrespecting Tenzin, getting humiliated/dusted by Amon's surprise attack, fumbling with the public perception of benders, apologizing to Tenzin, and being brought to her lowest point, she doesn't learn an OUNCE of humility. Again it DOES MAKE SENSE that she would be cocky, but that's not an EXCUSE for her behavior. But Ok, say we run with that, she then does stuff like physically threatening a judge that, for all she knows, is completely innocent.
I don't see how it takes Korra learning about Wan for her to learn the importance of the avatar and that her powers aren't trivial... her predecessor had to end a 100 year war...?
Her decision to open the spirit portals is based on what? A few hours at most interacting with spirits? What evidence are we shown in the show that there will never be peace between spirits and humans when the two worlds are separated? there hasn't been major stirrings before, even in ATLA. How does she surmise from the story of Wan that she should open the spirit portals? Her decision is actually incredibly dangerous because she has little knowledge of the potential repercussions this could have on the entire world.
Tenzin's powerup speech to her was also another piece of poor character writing. Her problem is clearly that she believes in herself too much, and that's not mutually exclusive with her defensively lashing out at her loved ones because they do things that make her insecure. It is precisely because they perturb her self image of herself as a competent person that she lashes out at them so viciously. A person who does not believe in herself would not find a new teacher that seemingly recognizes her spiritual potential. How can she simultaneously be cocky at the start of S2, by your own admission, and also not believe in herself? Her teenage whining is "why don't they think I can do it?" as opposed to "I can't do it, I dont have what it takes." She needs a piece of humble pie, not someone telling her that who she is is what makes her powerful. Because guess what? Her most prominent traits that define her, her headstrong nature, are put on full nasty display throughout the season as she wrongs her parents, wrongs Mako, and wrongly trusts her uncle against his dad's warning, not to mention tactless so she's unable to negotiate help for her tribe in the civil war. Her headstrong nature is clearly NOT what makes her an effective avatar.
But even beyond all that, it's a shounen powerup speech. Korra was unable to even enter the spirit world without help just a few moments before, and now because she believes in herself she can all the sudden do the ridiculous feat that her spiritual master just did, and fight with him on even ground?
Not to mention she gets totally bailed out by Jinora even then.
And her suddenly be able to control her emotions because Iroh told her so is similarly rushed and contrived character development. If she couldn't control herself after all of S1 and apologizing to both her parents and Mako (before blowing up in Mako's face again and kicking a desk 6 ft in the air), why is she suddenly able to do it because someone she's never met before told her to do so? Because she's in the spirit realm?
@@oakpiggy didn't ask
@@oakpiggy don't care. didn't ask
@@MattCMG I wonder if you're not responding to my rebuttal because you think it's so off base it's not worth it, or because you don't feel like arguing those points. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it's not because you can't answer the points.
@@LightningStrike1212 I easily could refute that but I don't have the energy to deal with people like you anymore. You must have skipped the opening part of the video where I blatantly said "I didn't make this video as a 'defense' and don't care for that mindset anymore".
The main thing I like about Korra is that they took risks, they tried something new. They could've easily just made more The Last Airbender, but they decided no. New characters, and new stories.
They made new characters because they thought they only had one season
Can we also note how badass Old Zuko's design look? That fucker has style.
that mf drippin sauce
@@MattCMG Fire Sauce.
23:44
"and honestly who could blame her"
you would be surprised
people literally blame korra for every single bad thing ever
The usual mindset I run into is:
1. "If Korra does something, it's wrong, she's bad because of it, and no amount of context or resolution matters."
2. "If Korra _doesn't_ do something, it's wrong, she's bad because of it, and no amount of context or resolution matters."
And at the same time people would accuse her of being a Mary Sue.
@@Slayer-Wulfpeople are weird period.
@@hanburgundy4317 I think it’s because she’s a female BLACK avatar and they don’t like that she could breath and they’re like “well she’s not Aang” yes SHES not Aang she didn’t things differently than Aang and he mental health took a toll to yes Aang had his metal health problems too but I personally think we see Korra’s A LOT more than his everyones also comparing Aang’s fighting to Korra’s saying she’s never won by herself or how she lost all of her battles you can’t personally blame that on her that’s just bad writing they were experimenting
@@momoring_twice847I completely agree. It’s concerning to see how quickly people JUMP Korra without batting an eye. And when you call them out, they just double down and further show that they’ve never watched the show or properly sat through any discussion of the show. Makes you wonder if there’s something more to the Korra hate than just how she was written…
Asami and Korra together are basically Batman and Superman dating
based
Imo the ship is garbage. The relationship has like no build-up at all, plus it's kinda creepy because korra is partly the reason that asami and mako broke up. (Keep in mind I'm commenting this before I watched the video, so maybe this guy will change my mind, idk)
@@fohb7291why do you ship them they have no chemistry Batman and superman have more chemistry
@@yarc9 I don't ship them?
@@fohb7291 shipping fandoms are weird
i always viewed Korra suddenly getting air bending as a moment of "you have taken everything from me Amon, you will NOT take ANYTHING else"
Also a good interpretation!
Doesn’t matter, it still doesn’t make any sense whatsoever within the established rules of the series. Korra literally had all her chakra paths you need to bend blocked, meaning that it is literally impossible to bend. Her chakra paths were physically blocked by blood bending. Energy bending can only give or remove bending spiritually, as in, the ability to bend any element is removed from their spirit. Sure, aang could’ve given Korra whatever element she wanted even ones she previously had never learned, that’s totally possible within the rules…..she just wouldn’t be able to bend any of them until her chakra paths were opened which would require a water bender who could blood bend which as we know, did not happen. She just got given a free pass by the writers even if it breaks lore. The directors commentaries literally prove that the writers didn’t actually understand how it worked, they just thought “hmmm she didn’t know air bending but she is the avatar so she has the ability to bend all elements so I guess Amon only took the elements she knew. Viola, now she can bend air no problem because Amon only took the ones she knew”
Like….thats not how aang’s energy bending works and that’s not how blood bending or chakra paths work. Korra literally invented a brand new rule just because the writers didn’t want to make her suffer any consequences.
@@zzodysseuszzi get what youre saying and while it is a solid criticism, i think the avatar state is just kind of a “fuck you” type of thing allowing korra to bend again despite the paths being ‘blocked’.
@@zzodysseuszz The removing bending with bloodbending altogether just doesn't make any sense. If it was truly done with bloodbending how does katara not sense it? Cuz its a full moon? Seems cheap.
How does aang give it back, does he unblock the chi pools even though it's a physical block?
How does korra get airbending when her ability to bend the other 3 is nonexistent? Can amon not sense the specific chakra pool for air? If thats the case then what was he gonna do when he had tenzin and his 3 kids tied up? Just bluff? He had to have been able to sense and block the air chakra otherwise that was just a ruse. So then how is korra's left unchanged? And how in God's name does korra learn to airbend? There's no mentality change connected to the element... no style change connected to the movement, just desperation. If it was intense desperation they were going for the avatar state coulda made more sense, since for aang it was always linked to intense emotion and distress. But she just randomly is able to bend air? Why? There's so much lore that is broken by TLOK's book 1 and 2 its so hard to rewatch it man
@@Mugiduckhold up you are cooking!!!! Why didn't they just have Korra enter the Avatar State their??? It makes way more sense than magically learning airbending
Bro dropped a Korra video that's longer than Fellowship of the Ring. Let's get this party started.
Not the extended edition! Lol
the extended edition (aka the one true edition) is longer by 4 minutes
@@pikablu_25the extended edition is like 16 hours long dude
I think one thing we can all agree on is that the score for Korra goes so hard. It’s probably the best score I’ve ever heard for a tv show, and I can listen to it on its own because of how good it is.
The album for the first season of AtLA was just officially revealed today, coming in Nov. i hope Jeremy gets to give LoK the same treatment, since we only have an official album for book 1 currently.
The only thing the show did good lol
One hundred percent agree, The score is masterful, Too bad the plot is the opposite.
TW
14:51 I think it makes a lot of sense that she’d be contemplating suicide here… by doing so she’d be _turning the cycle_ , to an Avatar that’s hopefully not “broken” like she is, one she thinks the world deserves. I think it could be this that really & truly opened her to contacting Aang, as she was letting go of her attachments to the world….
I agree. "When we reach our lowest point, we're open to the greatest change" doesn't make a ton of sense otherwise. Like okay, I get that Korra defines herself through her bending, so this is a devastating loss for her, but what does that truly mean besides just being more sad than usual, & why does it connect her with her past lives? If the idea is that she truly hit rock bottom, was thinking the world would literally be better off without her, but found the strength to push on anyway, I think that makes much more sense.
We kinda wish she did tbh she was a failure her entire life and caused every problem in the show without fixing any of them.
@@zzodysseuszz and you too, are a failure, what have you accomplished in life other than criticising shows you fail to understand?
@@zzodysseuszzYou are just a fucking hater who has never Watched the show!!!
Legend of Korra is amazing.
Are avatar korra fan and legend of korra fan? Sorry for asking this question 🙋.
I'm glad people are starting to be more open about liking this show and thinking it's good if not great.
I mean, there are even some places where... and get this.. YOU CAN ACTUALLY TALK! ABOUT LIKING KORRA! WITHOUT STARTING A FUCKING WAR IN THE COMMENT SECTION! Can you imagine it? CAN YOU FUCKING IMAGINE THIS? If this was another fandom the mere mention of this show would result in a storm of insults, slurs, and other stuff that would rival the legends of old xbox-live game chats. This is insane.
Actually true. As much as people hate on Korra it’s actually fairly chill from my experience there’s not a war over every little thing between ATLA and LoK fans
@joshuafrazier3904
That greatly depends on what video's comment section you try to discuss Korra in lol E;r's videos are hate fests, and the comment sections are filled with nothing but utter and complete disdain not only for Korra and the show but also for anyone that dares to disagree with the idea that Korra is the worst thing ever created. 99% of the people over there are wholly unwilling to even acknowledge what actually happens in the show, let alone discuss opinions about it.
@@hanburgundy4317 i like Korra, alot. But the writting is bad, there's no discussion on that. Rushed, messy.
Yet i think Zaheer is the best character from the whole series, and rewatched the whole of Korra at least 5 times. Flaws are visible, but i am able to identify and endure them to have a good time.
@@joshuafrazier3904Be grateful you weren’t around during 2013. I don’t care how much people hate Book 2 it doesn’t justify the vicious Aang stans going after people for daring to say they love the show. Even now morons completely dismiss overcoming her paralysis and PTSD. I’ve never been so ashamed of a fandom in all my life.
Nah I wouldn't say Zaheer is the Andrew Tate of Avatar. Zaheer at least had a point and tried to make things better, even if his methods are just counter-productive as fuck. Tate on the other hand is just straight up insane.
(Also I wish we got to see more of bearded Zaheer in the show than we got.)
Zaheer didn't try to make things better. Also, his point is kind of completely screwed up and has multiple contradictions to his actions. This is coming from someone who all things considered actually likes TLOK Book 3.
How is 'chaos' being the natural order or 'disorder' being the 'natural order' a good point? That can be refuted with actual real-life anarchists as something they don't believe.
He causes damage around the world and claims that's how the world should be, then uses an airbender's philosophy to create the least airbender like situations.
OK, he killed like 1 oppressive leader just to make the state a lot worse, the biggest airbender fan-boy, the villain with a point threatened to genocide the airbenders a second time.
Amon and Kuvira rose much better points and had consistent line of reasoning throughout their story.
(Also, I agree, bearded Zaheer looks🔥).
lol I’ve listened to Andrew Tate to see what was the big deal. Gotta say that as a man, I agree with some of what he says but he does go overboard on most things. I don’t think that’s being insane though 😅 jusssst like Zaheer 😂😂
Absolutely fantastic. Beneath all of the crude (albeit funny) jokes, you know how to analyze media masterfully. Nothing in this video distracts from what you're trying to accomplish. No insulting the people who disagree with you (aside from some ironic jokes). No bias. No flashy editing. No drama. Just pure, raw analysis with plenty of citations to back up your point.
This may be one of the most important videos for the TLOK online community. It shuts up the people who accuse the characters of being flat while also acknowledging flaws in good faith. When we love something, we critique it not to bring it down, but because we see ways it could be even better.
It's almost a tragedy that this piece of art has been so unfairly maligned by people who didn't take the time to understand it. Bryke took a lot of creative risks with this show, and it's horrible to see significant number of people punish them for taking those risks. Thanks a lot for summing up exactly why this series has captured the hearts of millions.
I’ve always been a Korra sceptic but I do agree it’s an overall good show. I always say that Korra is a good show it just got screwed over due to having to live up to the Juggernaut of a show that is ATLA with all the hype for a sequel well I just think they never had a fair shot. That being said the love diamond killed me and I hate it why that existed in the first season I have no clue. Love triangle are already hard to pull off in an effective way without annoying an audience but it was arguably a diamond cause Bolin was in their briefly with his crush and I’m like yo just keep it to Korra, Asami, Mako and let them figure it out which to be fair they did do pretty quickly but like it was still a love triangle at that point. Which was a thing I guess. Also I feel like Asami was barely there even though she was a main character and that seemed weird to me like a swear Tenzin and Toph’s daughter got more screen time that Asami over the course of the whole series. Sure I might be wrong but looking back that’s what it felt like.
@@joshuafrazier3904I was just looking at the comments on this slightly older video, found yours, and went, 'oh yeah, the Beifongs'. For all the crap LoK gets (some deserved, some not imo) people don't seem to talk about the bloated cast too much. I also felt like Tenzin, Lin and to be honest even Suyin got a lot of screentime, and that this may have come at the expense of Korra's friends. I do love all three of the adult characters I mentioned, but it got in Asami's way in particular.
Watching Korra was the first time I could look at my PTSD and not feel self-disgust. TLOK is a perfect representation of PTSD on all levels. I felt there was a strong romantic, intimate interest when Asami was the only person Korra confided her true feelings during recovery. Asami was the one person she felt safe with.
Korra jumping in front of the spirit canon gives me chills every time. The music, the selflessness of Korra, the growth being shown, Kuvira’s face of disbelief/shock, the badassness….just dope
Yes, this scene goes so fucking hard! I am sure she wouldn't have done this without all the growth she went through. Season 1 Korra would have gladly watched if Amon was disintegrated by a huge laser, cause her fear of him was stronger than any moral considerations she might have had. But she overcame her fear and grew to a point where she not only risked her life for the sake of her enemy, but also pretty definitively proved to Kuvira that she was the good guy in all of this.
Selflessness lol doesn’t sound like korra at all 😂 hahah
@@zzodysseuszzshe literally sacrifices her own life to save the air nation, did you even watch the same show?
@@hopelessfool6722 bro is just pained. He’s in every comment here talking nonsense lol
@@zzodysseuszz quit saying bullshit in every reply section 😂
THIS!! How the heck is youtube just recommending me this now!?
The Legend of Korra was a show I grew up with in my teens, and It's always meant so much to me. Both as a women, and a young queer person at the time, Korra hit home in a way most other things just...didn't. In a way that even ATLA didn't. That sort of relatability was what drew me to the show, but I think that in the end, it was the themes that helped me stay along for the ride.
Korra is a wonderful show, and I truly believe people would not be half as hard on it if it wasn't connected to ATLA. Because It's a sequel, people constantly compare it to ATLA, even when the comparisons aren't needed to view the show. Of course Korra isn't as good, but it frankly was never going to be and didn't *need* to be. Korra is it's own property, and It stands strong! I love all of the characters, I adore the world changes, and the animation style of Korra is probably my favorite animation style of all time.
We can all acknowledge Korra for it's flaws, and praise it for it's wins. At the end of the day; It's up to you if you let Korra's flaws outweigh the good in it. And I for one, can easily look past whatever flaws it has, because It's a show that simply made me feel good in a tumultuous time. I respect it greatly for that, and I hella respect the writers and directors for doing what they could to deliver us a piece of their creative work. I only hope that the next avatar show (whatever it may be,) will have a better opportunity to thrive.
100%, the music and the art style for the whole show is top notch
Wah wah wah
don’t mind the other comments I feel the same I feel like it does mental health differently and all the reviews that are complaining about the show just are skipping past a lot of good of the show Korra having a lot of more visible mental health issues and drastically a lot more people on her back as the avatar
Love to see a 3+ hour long video from you and before even watching, I completely agree. Legend of Korra is fantastic and one of my favorite animated shows.
Unpopular opinion, I like LoK better than AtLA
So do i, less childish asides
@@stephaniewilliams6756what? can u lream to write
I do as well
I prefer atla but mad respect
Same
24:02 Even my brother who has never watched the third season of Korra agreed with me after I explained what she had to go trough in the hands of Zaheer.... THAT IT MAKES ABSOLUTE SENSE FOR HER TO BE TRAUMATIZED LIKE THAT! Like holy shit dude.
I seriously wonder how narrow minded (and flat out stupid) someone has to be to not understand that concept 😭
Before I even watch the whole thing, I want to say thank you for this. I 100% agree. Let's stop pretending. Korra is flat out amazing and does do certain things better than ATLA
100% agree with your 100% agree
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@@sabir1208omg face reveal
@@uwuuou2958 lmao triggered
I disagree with my entire being
13:00 I’ve been trying to explain this for a while and I figured it out. Korras main problem with airbending was her spiritual block. She overcame that spiritual block a few episodes before when she directed tapped into aangs memories, showing that she had connected to the past avatars. After that, unlocking airbending itself was just a matter of time
People hate it because it happened at a convenient time but korra had a lot of build up plus she had been training in airbending for several weeks to months, much longer than aang took to unlock his elements.
Exactly bro it was just a matter of time she has been growing as the series progressed physically and mentally her airbending training was going smoothly Korra airbending was inevitable and that's not hard too see I mean all she has been doing was training what did people honestly think would happen?
@@LoneWolf-el5oy her air bending training was literally going nowhere and was awful. She literally makes no progress with it and gets it for free without earning it. E;R has shown the writers themselves admitting she didn’t earn it with work. She got it because losing her other bending somehow for some reason unlocked new energy paths. Something which was not explained in the rules at all.
Korra had literally no build up to getting it. Stop making shit up dude it’s embarrassing.
@@zzodysseuszz yes she did, not only the narrative build up but the in-universe build up.
the problem they gave us for why korra could not airbend was spiritual ineptitude, after she was able to connect with aang, that was no longer a problem.
it was only a matter of time before she did it, she just did it at a convenient time.
she actually spent more time learning airbending than aang learned on all three of his elements combined. so it was expected by that point.
stop yelling in the comments, you're embarrassing yourself
@@zzodysseuszz not really, this is a lie. by episode 3 we see that she has improved greatly with the gates.
throughout the season we also see that she meditates constantly and practices the ba gua circle, which is the basic martial art that airbending is based on.
she earns it more than aang earns any of his elements. aang spent a day at most learning an element and that was earth. all he had to do was show some backbone. he instantly got waterbending and he was literally given firebending by jeong jeong.
her losing the other elements didn't unlock her airbending. her need to protect her friend allowed her to unlock it. by that time she had already shown that she was spiritual and had trained for weeks to months, so it only took a catalyst
He damn near doubled the length of the last Korra video.
Absolute legend lol
I like how through the three videos you made defending this series, they only get longer. This one is literally more than double the length of the last one. Not by a lot, but still.
In fairness, only like half of the last one had any actual substance to it lmao
If the Legend of Korra is a bad show, then I'm the president of Brazil. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the motherfucking president of Brazil.
S1-S2 are pretty bad. I explained why in my rebuttal to his pinned comment.
@@LightningStrike1212
Season one is my second favorite - Book 3 holds that spot for how great the fight scenes, Zaofu, and the Red Lotus are, but Book 1's focus on Pro Bending was too fun to watch, the animation was gorgeous, and Amon was a great villain.
@@LightningStrike1212I'd say only season 2 is bad season one is okay at best imo
@@hanburgundy4317 your standards are low lol
cringe
Bruh, Korra's my favorite character. Idk what it is but I love her, genuinely. I love hot-headed S1 Korra, and I love controlled, disciplined S4 Korra. Thanks for this video!
About Korrasami, yeah, it wasn't the best representation there was, but it was pretty good all things considered, and there was no ill intent on the creators. However, Korrasami would also pave the way for MORE LGBT representation in Avatar, with a great example of this being the pairing of Rangi and Kyoshi in the Kyoshi books. Which IS DONE SO MUCH BETTER! The chemestry between the two is established very early on, there's a clear arc of them growing closer and falling in love with each other. You get to see them ACTUALY KISSING! JUST LIKE ANY OTHER COUPLE IN THE FRANCHISE! (You know, kinda important if you wanna treat a homosexual relationship as equal to a heterosexual relationship.) And honestly, to me they feel like some of the best romantic material I've seen in this franchise. I'd say it's even better than some relationships in the original ATLA show. (Some, not all. After all, Sokka did date the MOON!)
Gross
Your kink doesn't belong in a children's show
@@hughmungus431snowflake
Spirit Kaiju was understandable when u take into account that when Avatar's go through Avatar state awakening, they see a giant version of themselves in the cosmic. So I just connect it with the Spirit Kaiju. It's Harmonic Covergence anyways, surely they can project their giant self that they always see inside when cosmic power is at it's peak
Wait no no, they got a point.
I mean yes but also doesn’t take away from feeling really stupid to me.
I also hate the idea of Dark Spirits cause I feel like spirits were always meant to be these neutral almost unfathomable entities that are hard to comprehend from a moral stand point since there views are so different. The idea they can be corrupted isn’t bad but the idea all spirits are good until they aren’t seems wrong with spirits like Ko the Face Stealer and others like that who are evil but not dark spirits. Also the ocean spirit likely would have gone dark spirit upon the moon spirits death but they didn’t so like how does this system work? It just feels like it breaks continuity.
@@joshuafrazier3904 the ocean spirit had given up on their spirituality and became mortal.
Also wasn't the ocean spirit the one who merged with aang and reeked havock in the north pole?
yeah, i also hated that there is good and evil and that we must take sides. @@joshuafrazier3904
Nah, it's still dumb. That whole giant thing in the avatar state is just a mental projection of their connection to the cosmic energy of the universe. It's basically a visual representation of someone attaining enlightenment. Going from that to manifesting a Perfect Susano'o to battle the Jinchuriki of Avatar Satan... You can't tell me that's not jumping the shark even a little bit. The way Korra handles spirits in general either retcons or flat out ignores the pre-established lore of TLA. I enjoyed books 3 and 4, and book 1 had its moments, but aside from Varrick, Iroh, Avatar Wan, some of the stuff with Aang's kids, and a few comedic moments with Eska and Bolin, book 2 was utter garbage and makes little to no sense.
This is about to slap so hard. Thanks for your Korra support. A wonderful reply to the stupid hours long Korra hate rants that are on here
"Bolin is autistic and I'll die on that hill. He's not Chris Chan autistic tho, he's just 0.5 autism"
While there absolutely is a fundamental misunderstanding of how the autism spectrum actually works in this sentence, with the implication of Chris Chan being "More autistic" than Bolin, which is the classic outdated belief that treats the spectrum as a line where you can be less or more autistic. The truth is that the spectrum is really more like a wheel, we are all so different from one another it's more like a set of traits in which we are more or less impaired on, but no real measure of "More or Less" autistic.... because that literally doesn't exist, you're either autistic or your not, even if one is a person who requires more support to function and the other is more like me who can seemingly function ok without much support despite still being very much disabled.
Now keep in mind, I'm not trying to throw shade at Matt here, as I personally believe this was just a joke. But I just thought it would be fun to share for those who are curious. As for Bolin being autistic, as an autistic guy, I kinda see where you're comming, specially with how often he misses social cues, but I believe he's really just socially awkward.
(Zuko is absolutely autistic tho, and no one will convince me otherwise.)
How is zuko autistic? Is it because he's bad at socializing?
This was such an autistic rant
certain traits are more important than others in socialization, therefore within that color wheel of autism there is also a gradient in how severe the disorder can be based on the importance of the impaired trait to social interaction.
This suggest a line of mild to terrible. There's a clear difference between Chan and people with less obvious autism. It's not hard to see it. It goes from mild to bad because of the importance of the impaired trait
Hope this gets more attention. Very well put together.
Its great to be seeing more people be straight up saying this show is great and gets the treatment it deserves
Thank you my man
Honestly, I feel the mere fact that Raava, like many spirits, had a prejudice and a negative bias towards humans, shows that she's NOT objectively good. She's just as flawled as any other character in the show, and ends up going on a character arc alongside Wan. Now compare that to the Christian God who's supposed to be objectively good and perfect in every way. Does that seem like being perfect in every way? cuz it doesn't to me.
It's even pointed out in the show that darkness and light are natural parts of everyone, and that one still can't exist without the other (the season explains and shows that Vaatu and Raava can't destroy each other, light and dark are still balanced)
I also don't get how people hated how the spirits were capricious and able to be turned dark, when ATLA had Heibei changing from the guise of a panda into a twisted, vengeful spirit.
@@hanburgundy4317 I think the problem is how Korra oversimplified how spirits act, and how it subjects them to this "light-dark" dichotomy. There was a much greater level of mystique to spirits in TLA, and they also had much more specific motivations, whether it was the Painted Lady protecting her lake and its people, Heibei protecting his forest but not its people, Ko's desire to gather more faces, Won Shi Tong's initial desire to share knowledge with humans in his library, and subsequent retreat back the spirit world when that knowledge was misused. Not to mention Twi and La's shedding of their immortality to stay in the physical world and become the moon and ocean. Korra also makes spirits much more numerous and same-y, and the whole conflict between Raava and Vaatu and their ability to influence all spirits flies in the face of how these spirits act. To say nothing of the swamp. Duality has always played a big role in Avatar, but in TLA the spirits were beyond just light and dark or good and evil, in fact they likely existed outside human conventions of morality and understanding. I don't like going with the whole "We are beyond your comprehension" schtick, but when talking about beings as abstract as spirits, it kind of rings true, and the way Korra handles them just removes their complexity. I also just didn't like how their inner light or darkness could be so easily swayed by Korra's, let alone anyone's emotional state whereas in TLA, spirits required much more specific circumstances to be angered or pacified. Heibei wasn't calmed by some random waterbending technique, he was calmed when Aang showed him the acorn and gave him hope that his forest would eventually recover.
@@redwings0142
That's fair, and you make a good point.
@@hanburgundy4317 Thank you. I enjoyed a lot of Korra, but the way the show handled spirits is just something I will never get on board with. And I know the whole god and satan thing isn't a 1 to 1 comparison, but the basic good vs. evil deity premise is there. I do think Raava and Vaatu had potential if they were written better, but alas what we got left a lot to be desired. Edit: The fog of lost souls was pretty cool tho.
Remember that this show gave us the biggest and most important piece of Iroh wisdom there is....
You won't gain any weight from eating spirit cake... but you won't lose any either.
Honestly, to help with this whole balance motif, I'd love to see an arc where Vaatu begins to grow inside a new avatar, and thus he now has to learn how to properly balance Raava and Vaatu inside of him. But honestly, I don't know if that would work very well, it's just an idea that popped up in my head.
I was rewatching the show recently, and I had a similar thought, how Vaatu coming back to life in Raava would work now that she's bonded to the Avatar.
Also, the next one in the cycle is Earth, right? Who else wants to see a lavabending Avatar?
THIS SHOW IS AMAZING! is not perfect but has so much to offere, great character developmente, grerat plot lines, my favorite episode in the hole franchise is korra alone
No it sucks
@@ItsPrince781 Can't people just enjoy a show that they like
@@PokemonFanatic43 avatar the last air bender is better
@@ItsPrince781yeah I agree but that doesn't mean that I don't love this show, I think people should be able to enjoy whatever show they want
@@PokemonFanatic43 ok
If he's making a 3 hour long video about Korra.... does that mean that The Admiral Analysis may return to make an even longer series on that show?
We can only hope so
2:58:42 "Gazhan is really me, for real"
Today I learned that Matt CMG does not want to go back to prison.
legend of korra and the last air bender imo is still one of the most goated shows of all time only being slightly beat by teen titans 2003.
Thank you for making this video. As a Korra lover, it was getting tiresome only ever hearing how horrible it is
About 8 minutes into the video and I love it but I'm surprised that you wrote off waterbending as it correlates to Korra's personality. I think it's very interesting they decided (not just because of lore reasons) to make the waterbender (the element of change) go on the biggest journey as a character.
Good point I hadn't thought of that
Haven't actually watched the video yet... As I'm planning on enjoying this four hours but I want to say this before I start.....
The more Avatar universe content I consume, the more video essays I watch, and the more times I've watched both series.... I realized my opinion on Alta has been pretty stagnant but my views on Korra is constantly changing. I enjoyed it the first time, was really irritated with it the second time but found myself defending it constantly... I'm a queer woman and this was an important show for representation no matter how slight it was. Korra crawled so shows like Shira could run and Owl house could FLY. And recently I've realized something. I don't engage with AlTA the way I engage with Korra. I spend way more time analyzing the themes just casually in my head and reevaluating characters constantly. I love Alta, and it's special, but it fundamentally is a simpler show.
I even don't hate the Giant Spirit Kaiju anymore. Like that was really my biggest problem with it from the beginning but I have come to recognize that I just don't think I understood it. I don't think I got the mechanics and it felt like it came out of nowhere... But it didn't. I didn't even realize Spirit was another element until it was explained to me. It just isn't that explicit in the show they don't call it that. (And I've read a lot of elemental magic series. There's always a fifth unknown element called spirit... It's like a whole trope... )
People who don't like Korra, like the people who really hate it, I truly believe don't understand it. I think it goes over their head. 😅 It wasn't a good show for what it was given and blah blah blah. It's just a good show. And in a lot of ways it's way better than the original in the ways it handles darker themes.
Alta it's like a comfort blanket. Korra is the knife you keep by your bed due to ptsd. It's fundamentally unfair to compare those two things... Even though arguably both give a certain kind of comfort.
Sure we all got the blanket when we were kids and we love it, it has sentimental value. But the knife acknowledges the harsh realities of the real world.
(Look I know my analogy is a little bit weird and not everyone is going to keep a knife by their bed... But I hope you can see what I mean.)
Well said. Thank you
Weird analogy, but it fits.
you can't defend korra's writing for s1-s2.
"People who don't like Korra, like the people who really hate it, I truly believe don't understand it."
Yes, I don't understand how a character can just gain abilities out of nowhere.
"I don't think I got the mechanics and it felt like it came out of nowhere... But it didn't."
When did they establish that this could be done and was done before?
@LightningStrike1212
"I don't understand how a character can just gain abilities out of nowhere."
I'm assuming you're referring to Korra bending three elements as a child? To be fair, ATLA never says when or how a bender discovers their power, but that if you're a bender, you could bend as a child, as well. If you think martial arts are required to bend, I point you to Aang doing pushups with his breath, Toph making a to-scale replica of the city complete with little people just by punching the ground, Iroh breathing fire, and Mad King Bumi bending _with his face_ . The martial art forms help make bending an extension of your being to help you better control your Chi, but the power to bend is yours.
@@hanburgundy4317 I'm talking about her airbending. Sure, she had the footwork down, but she still couldn't muster so much as a breeze before.
Totally agree with your conclusion. Legend of Korra has its flaws, but I'm not looking for a flawless story. I want a story that I can enjoy and appreciate, and LoK achieves that in spades, so much so that Korra specifically is one my favorite fictional characters and a touchstone when I'm writing and developing my own characters.
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One thing I would add is that Korra didn’t have friends.
Aangs friends helped him grow into the avatar he needed to be and that was robbed from korra
Bolin, Asami and Mako? Huhhh?
@@Tookieslamwithin context of the video my friend. Korra didn’t have any childhood friends while secluded in the southern water tribe. All the way to age 17, all she was influenced by was training and isolation. She didn’t have friends from around the world to shape her upbringing with different perspectives like aang.
@Tookieslam tbh the krew feel more like coworkers than friends
@@azural8347 i honestly disagree, but I see where you’re coming from
I can't help but just have the biggest respect and love for this show! What I like above all else about this show is the risk the creators took with it. In an age where we get a lackluster sequel after a lackluster sequel (looking at you, Disney Star Wars), Korra has balls and is not afraid to make huge changes in the universe. I mean, taking her bending away? Cutting of her conections all past avatars? Goddamn. Korra is what a good sequel should be imo.
Agreed on everything I love korra and honestly think it’s overhated
Are avatar korra fan and legend of korra fan? Sorry for asking this question 🙋.
My thoughts on Korra are good but flawed. Would love to see what could have been with a normal production cycle and full support from Nickelodeon.
Finally someone is giving korra her flowers
Are avatar korra fan? Sorry for asking this question.
@@user-bf1nu1gm4u yeah
@@fairielikescake good morning. Thank you for my answering. I enjoy talking to fans. I'm fan of avater korra 🌊🔥🏔🌪 and legend of korra series and avatar last Airbender series. Avatar korra and lot other characters are my favorite characters. You have great day and next day and week and weekend and next week and full happiness 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊.
I JUST REWATCHED KORRA LAST WEEK.
And aside from a few things bother me (Suyin’s behaviors, the constant blaming of korra for many things out of her control, and especially how they handled the love triangle at the very start (part of me really wanted to see what a romance of bolin and korra would have evolved to but this is a nitpick.)
But yeah the show is amazing. Animation is glorious.
Story is solid.
Season 2 was a weak point but every other season was very strong. (I actually do think season two was fine, but definitely the weakest season)
Amazing villains
Korra as a character (I related to a lot of her more internal struggles and was able to connect more with her than Aang)
And honestly it’s a pretty funny show.
Only thing I wish greatly was that the avatar state was animated to be as powerful as season 2 in spectacle. Though I understand why it wasn’t.
And one hot take: I actually like the decision to make her lose the past lives.
Edit) 2:22:10 actually. I think Sokka is actually the one that states that Yakonne had a mutation that allowed him to blood bend without a full moon.
Keep in mind I rewatched recently so I don’t think I misremembering. I think they did explain it was a genetic mutation. Hence the murder suicide at the end is essentially getting rid of that mutation. Not for good of course, but still worth noting. Rewatch the scenes when korra was getting visions of Aang dealing with that bloodbender. I think someone does outright say it’s a mutation.
Additionally, the characters do question how Amon is able to take away bending with his blood bending. It just isn’t touched on for too long. The characters just kinda assume it’s the blood bending that allowed him to find a way to take away bending. But I guess it is still up for theory since it’s never outright confirmed.
I literally went to the transcript of that episode and ctr+f "mutation" and that word isn't used once. Sokka just says Yakon is a "unique bender".
@@MattCMG Huh strange. I know I’m not crazy. I swore someone mentioned a mutation. Imma rewatch… one sec.
@@MattCMG welp I’m crazy I guess. Maybe I mistaken something else then. I checked the episodes in range of where I thought it was and nothing.
Guess I might have conflated it with korra videos I was watching around that time.
But yeah you are right.
I guess it’s supposed to be heavily implied in that case. Wish there was a direct answer. But considering it’s a trait that was passed on to his sons with 100% success, and everyone makes it a big deal of both Amon and tarlock being Yakone’s son and using that as the basis for explanation as to why they can bloodbend without a full moon, I guess I just have to assume it’s a genetic mutation.
Since “rare skill” seems to be used a lot when it pertains to bending abilities. If combustion bending is assumed to be genetic then I guess blood bending without a full moon is naturally another genetic outlier.
@@terrakage4462 My headcanon is that Yakone's technique is only known by Yakone. He *could* have taught it to other waterbenders, but why would he?
The series doesn't seem to take a clear stand on the question of "can all x benders do all x bending if they get the right training and mental state?". It seems to be a mystery for the very people in the world.
But there seems to be more evidence than not that all benders of a given element are biologically equally capable of doing that type of bending. Zuko *could* lightningbend, he just needs to get the mental state right. Bolin *could* metal bend (Su thinks everyone can learn), but for whatever *mental* reason it just doesn't come to him.
Thus, every waterbender should be able to mind-bloodbend if only they knew Yakone's trick. Which is probably something that requires some level of cruelty and/or lack of empathy that would make it impossible for most.
Here's an example of what Yakone's trick could be: "you don't use your mind, you use your tongue to bend and your very blood-filled lungs. You don't target the blood on the whole body of your enemy, only that inside the nervous system, thus you have much less to move and the enemy is paralized out of the inability of their own muscles to respond, not just strength"
The animation isn't amazing. The art itself looks amazing, but the actual fluidity of the animation is pretty meh, and the lip syncing is horrible. The fights scenes are ok, but nothing special
Korra > Aang
No ☠️ I love Legend of korra, but korra is not aang level
@fohb7291 For me, Aang is just an A tier character, while characters like Zuko or Korra are S teir. Obviously, this ranking is not based on objectivity but rather my personal liking of a character.
@@zacharyt.2694 agreed 100%
I think Korra is a worse character, but I prefer her and I do think that she is more powerful, it's even said by the creators
i never thought lok is too flawed or more flawd than any other show, it's just not perfect like its predecessor, but korra is still an icon and an inspiration.
ATLA and LOK are the goats of show, korra have some bad points, but the emotions, combat, korra grow up and struggle, Vilains, world building, theme and animations, even story's are good just not as good writted as ATLA, if korra is bad so I'm a horse with 5 eyes.😊
probably the best pro-korra video i have ever seen
I'm glad this guy points out Mako's intelligence. In fact, aside from his questionable breakup advice to Bolin and lying to Korra about their breakup, he was pretty much the only character in Book 2 that didn't come off as a complete dumbass or total jerk. Too bad his character was done dirty, and became less relevant as the series went on, but at least he was cool for one season.
2:48:18 something I will be touching on in my video is the bhudist legend Raava and Vatuu are based on- with a particular focus on Korra's meditation in the tree of time being a reflection of the legend of Bhudah repelling Mara by meditating under a tree to prevent 10 thousand years of darkness
13:00 I always saw Korra unlocking Air-bending as a result of how Bending, Chi-Blocking, and Water-bending works
Korra's flow of chi and energy in her body and psyche didn't currently let her use her air-bending.
Water-ending (and Fire-bending) has the ability to manipulate people's chi, so when Amon Blood-bent her he flipped her Chi from 3 on 1 off, to 1 on 3 off.
Katara couldn't fix her bending because she's so vehemently against Blood-bending that she couldn't manipulate Chi to that degree.
Amon's Chi-blocking is more permanent than the physical Chi-blocking because he reroutes those Chi flows, whereas physical Chi-blocking crudely and hastily blocks those channels but they eventually flow past that forced closing.
Bolin is Best Boy.
i ain't gay but for bolin i'll make an exception
@@MattCMG You can't resist NukTuk...
i needed this to get me through work today, just listened to it like a podcast, i’m a big korra fan, honestly like it more than atla so it’s fuckin great seein you put out another vid. you a real one thanks yo ✊🏻
Also a big Korra fan!!
Brother, those who says korra is bad, so I'm a horse with 5 eyes. Korra has one(if not the) best character development in shows, the emotions are incredible(way more emotions than ATLA) world building and ambient INSANE, animations and theme no words, villains far better than ATLA. People hate LOK just for 1 or 2 two bad points combined to their nostalgia. Korra is one of the greatest show and my favorite with ATLA after. People saying it's trash are just here to give us(korra fans) hate.
@@tomorrnazarko6948 EXACTLY, as it weird as it sounds Aang goes on a physical jouney learning the elements whereas Korra is on a spiritual journey learning the human side of herself while applying it to become a better avatar. Plus the characters are older so it makes them easier to relate to. Korra shall always reign supreme in my mind.
A lot of people felt Raava and Vaatu were out of place. Considering that Raava is initially very dismissive of humanity and that humans are a chaotic lot it's not quite as simple as people would like to pretend.
Nah, I like someone from the outside looking in. You're as much of a fan as anyone. As I've grown up, Korra grew on me. She's just a teenager/young adult that trusted too much on her seniors or her skills that she was easily manipulates or humbled. Season 1 korra is young, and cocky. Season 4 of korra is someone who struggle to overcome her weaknesses that a young korra would ignore and result to violence. She got more beatings than aang in the og show, which would just mentally drain someone
I like jinora
before I get into watching this I myself have always enjoyed rewatching Korra over Airbender
I am actually putting out a video going in depth on my feelings on Book 2 and why I feel that particular book is better than most think
This video is not being released until after the actor and writer strikes (to show solidarity with the strikers) but the script is already written and I am curious about how much you touch on the points I make
Looking forward to it
Me too, I actually love Book 2 and it grows tiresome for me to see people hate on it so much. It gives such so many emotional scenes and great lore and insight into the Avatar universe, which I love. I look forward to seeing your vid!
Why would you show solidarity with the literal least valuable, most overpayed, most ideologically obtuse, and just generally worst people in the west?
Oh you're an amon. I get it. That makes sense
Just watched this show after loving ATLA for years, and quitting the show with an exe years ago because I was just cool with having a mini series, and me and my current partner absolutely loved it. I went through a spiritual journey before meeting her, and this shows themes work perfectly with moving on past previous traumas. Korras growth is much more relatable when your identity gets taken away. Super solid and a welcome addition. I cant wait to meet the next avatar
These past 6 months have been ROUGH when you said “Identity taken away” I felt that. The first time I’ve been able to put this feeling into words
@@camiiv2957 Its gut wrenching, but when you find yourself again, and begin showing yourself care! That avatar state is within all of us!!!
I sort of like it more the ATLA, I guess i'm a monster for liking steam punk style and a story about inner conflicts.
One thing this show has over stoa is that it has tenzin and jinora
And I do love Tenzin, such a great character @@clonetrooper2003
I don't think that Varrick is as much as villian in book 2 as people usually attribute him and it's mostly because of the current strong ant-capitalist feeling going on that wasn't really that strong back there. Varrick seems to be written to be as Chaotic Neutral as possible and as moral as Jack Sparrow.
In my opinion, Varrick *didn't* warmonger against the north just make more money. He did it because he himself is a Water tribe Southerner and because he is the extreme opposite to Bolin regarding naivete. Varrick is a cynic and thus can see transparently into manipulators and people with hidden agendas. He *knew* from the very start that Unalaq was bad news. He knew in a way similar to how Lex Luthor says "I know evil".
Of course, he is not in some selfless quest to save the South, he is just protecting his home.
His biggest moral flaw doesn't seem to be that he doesn't care about the damage he causes, it seems to be that he doesn't *think* much about that damage or can easily find an excuse. I'm sure that if we asked the old Varrick if he felt bad about framing Mako he would say something like "nah, kid's a detective. They won't treat him bad. And if he doesn't find a job afterwards I can offer him one for my company. A win-win!"
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my theory on why she doesn't have a connection to her past lives is Vatuu growing inside Raava inside Korra
Maybe an "exorcism" or even twins being born with one inheriting Raava and the other Vatuu
i also think Dual Avatars with one focused on human affairs and one on spiritual affairs that have to work together and co-exist is a concept that would work wonders for the Avatar Universe
If only Korra were Korro the reception would have been different. People would be willing to dig deeper into her story arc and would want to see her flaws as character development.
idk I think you're reaching a bit. Save for a very select few fringe psychos out there, I don't think anyone actually gives a shit that Korra's a girl.
@@MattCMGI have...genuinely *never* seen that said as a complaint of the show or character by anyone.
What I *have* seen are lots of people like the guy you replied to here, who *assume* that any grievance about the show is related to Korra being a girl
I think, had the show been "The Legend of Aang" and had him make the same decisions, everyone that hates on Korra for her mistakes would be defending those choices and explaining the context for them and the growth that they led to. I think most of the hate for Korra stems from her replacing Aang.
@@hanburgundy4317 pretty much
@@hanburgundy4317I don’t really agree with that. For one thing a lot of Korra’s decisions are things that Aang would never do, if anything ppl would be just as, if not more pissed that the writers butchered Aangs character. I know there are plenty of people who hate Korra just because she isn’t Aang, but based on my feelings about the show, she really isn’t a likeable character for the first 2 books. In book 1 she’s abrasive and headstrong, and in book 2 she’s a flat out B***h to her friends and family. That’s not necessarily a bad thing tho. Seeing her make mistakes and mature in the next two books is what makes her a good character to me. Korra was written to be Aangs polar opposite so most of her actions and personality just wouldn’t work at all with him. I guarantee if you replaced Korra with Aang and all else was equal ppl would still hate it, probably more so.
The reason I’m subbed to this channel.
I knew I'd find you here! #antoinebandeleishim
My reason as well.
Book 4 is my personal favourite for a variety of reasons, but yes, Book 3 is also very good. If Book 3 had more character-driven stuff, and its villains didn't seem designed specifically to be liked by the audience while not having much substance, and Korra's flaws were challenged more by the problems she faced, I might prefer it. But for me it's Book 4 all the way, warts and all! Thanks for this critique.
Edit: And the entire soundtrack should definitely be made available so I can throw money at it! That shit's way too good for most of it to languish without an official release.
One of the biggest issues people have with Korra is the Raava/Vaatu thing. But I was randomly watching clips of ATLA and I realized the dragons that Zuko and Aang meet are a physical representation of Raava/Vaatu. They “balance” one another.
This also reminded me of Iroh’s element speech that he gives to Zuko! Each element representing something. Aang brought in freedom. Korra brought in change. This new Earth Avatar is gonna bring in stability. 👀
There’s so many good conversation points for Korra! She’s not only relatable but she’s a testament that even though she goes through so many crises, she still gets up and tries again! Even when she wants to give up at times or is at her lowest point.
That scene when she gets her bending back gets me so emotional. My heart just swells up with happiness.
I know this show is a bit divisive but I appreciate that this video took the time to address the issues people had with it, pointed out how it evolves stuff from the original series, pointed out what worked (I particularly love how Zaheer and his crew are basically an evil team Avatar), AND then you have the whiplash of an occasionally crude but funny joke here and there
That was a pretty nice analysis to watch/listen to
Dude, while your points regarding the show/characters itself was flawless, the overall quality of this video was brought down by the number of lewd, sexual, juvenile jokes in my opinion.
I'm not someone who has issues with any of these things, but the amount there was really made parts of the video hard to sit through. Love this channel and its content, but the jokes is gonna make this a hard sell actually Korra haters to sit through.
If you're a fan of the channel then you should know by now that this is the dumbass humor you signed up for
@@MattCMGWell, to a degree. Knowing someone's style of humor doesn't mean it can't be hit or miss, or overdone. You definitely cranked up the more lewd (and borderline offensive) aspect of your humour up to 11 for this video in particular. None of your previous video made me (for lack of a better word) cringe as much as this one did so there was definitely a difference.
Probs because this video was the longer than most films. Again, love pretty much everything else about it and did enjoy some of the jokes as usual. I only brought up the above because I want Korra haters to see it and take it seriously.
Literally no other channel has done a Korra defence video as in depth as this. I've gotten to the point now where I just click off videos that disrespect Korra and the show now so I can't thank you enough for making this.
@@lincolnbeckett8791 I agree with you
tenzin even has a first 3 season arc to learn he has still to learn, in 2, he has to let ho of his past and expectation what he is supposed to be, and be the self himself not aang. and 3 he does apply that to how he has to change the aproach as keeper of air normad to let them find theirs and make a better air norman nation, as thje original air normads, were removed, and this ones, are not.
Oh and lin is great, i love her going from jaded, to respect korra as stubbern badass first and , gets pushed into meeting her sister again, and they have a fight, and that trauma getting out adresses that anger and lingering resentment.
oh and nice how she pushes opal herself because she regrets hanging on family expectations. showing she does mean it to help opal, not any anger at her family. And then she repairs that, its really good.
I love lin is a hardass that shows concern and emotions by letting her guard off and actioins.
I’m just seeing this now but a few points I think her struggles with air bending were a lot like Aangs struggles with earth bending the element is so against their personality that it creates a block.
Now what Amon unintentionally does is open up the chakra associated with air when he closes the other ones and bc her chakra is opened she can air bend
3:19:10 I LOVE SEASON 4 WAY MOREEEE PTSD AND KORRA'S GROWTH DAMN
Saw that this clearly doesnt have enough views as it deserves for all this hard work so i even tho im putting this in my watch later for now i still wanna leave a comment to help the algorithm
I'm with you 100%. Was LoK as objectively perfect as atla was? Not really, no. But it's a MORE than worthy sequel series, and one of the best sequel shows I've ever seen.
I'm going to add to this reply in real time because there's a good chance it might get really long, & UA-cam has a bad habit of eating my longer posts:
~20-22:00: This really puts how many things were so great about Book 2 into perspective, which is no mean feat given how often people want to focus on the negatives of Book 2, of which there were a lot. But as many problems as I have with it, so many things are just so fucking good. Tenzin's been told basically all season that he can't teach Korra what she needs to know anymore, & he's had to come to terms with that. So, it's such a great moment when Kya's all "Okay, NOW she needs you," & the advice he gives her is something he never could've given her in Book 1 because his own arc in Book 2 was about learning it. It's just so good, even if it leads to something completely insane. Story of Book 2, really.
~25:00: It just occurred to me that Katara & Toph both helping Korra's recovery with very different interpretations of "positive reinforcement" mirrors how they train Aang in Bitter Work.
~29:00: "The Zaheer scene is bad because you shouldn't go to your abuser for help" is such a bad, strawman argument. One, Korra went there with the intention of confronting Zaheer, & no psychologist will ever tell you you're just not allowed to do that. It's acknowledged this can be an important step in regaining control as long as appropriate cautions are taken. Two, calling Zaheer "Korra's abuser" is projecting this weird domestic violence context on them that just doesn't apply. It's a closer comparison to say they're like veterans who fought on the opposite side of a war. Still not exact, but a much closer dynamic. This is why, to Korra's surprise, Zaheer understands what she's going through in a way someone who didn't live through it can't, & now that the fight is over, & they have a common interest, he's willing to offer his help. Help that, as Zaheer points out, she doesn't have any other options for. Which leads to the final point: As you alluded to, the idea of "this scene makes me uncomfy, so it's bad" is just incredibly dumb. There's so much dramatic tension wrapped up in this scene for so many reasons. Does Zaheer have an ulterior motive? Who is winning the debate? What are the consequences of this meeting going to be, & is it just going to make Korra worse? A really underappreciated thing about this scene is how much the power dynamic changes as it plays out. When Korra tells him Kuvira is his fault, it just cuts straight to his core & completely changes his entire demeanor. When you get right down to it, the only reason Zaheer decided to help her is that she did what she couldn't do when they met at Xai Bau's grove in Book 3: She proved him wrong using his own ideals.
To keep going along a similar idea, a lot of people balk at the idea that "suffering made Korra a better person." For my part, I would've liked the show to lean more on the framing that one has to decide what their own suffering means to them & their life narrative--which the show does to an extent--but also, it's very strange to me that people act so surprised it would say the former. It's no secret the show is heavily inspired by themes of Eastern religion, & "suffering happens for a reason" is an incredibly common religious idea. Arguably its main selling point is that it gives people a sense that they can make sense out of the senseless.
~36:00: Korra getting amnesia is very on-the-nose symbolism of "Korra doesn't know the origins of the Avatar, & since she sees herself as the Avatar, she doesn't know who she is." But it doesn't really contribute to the story beyond that except for enabling more love triangle shenanigans.
~1:03:00: So far, I'm really feeling like there's pros & cons to each version of the video. That might've been the best analysis for Mako & Bolin I've ever seen. While the points about Asami weren't unfair, I think the older video made more of a positive case for her character. Though it also doesn't deal with Hiroshi's return in Book 4, which is important in its own right.
~2:34:00: Thank Christ someone else likes the detective story.
"Is naturepunk a thing?" Solarpunk. Or, if you're looking for primitive technology a la The Flinstones, stonepunk.
~3:16:00: Not trying to nitpick every little thing, but "the final shot was so ambiguous the creators needed to come out & confirm it" isn't accurate. The confirmation was maybe 12 hours after the finale, & was clearly always planned just to make absolutely sure everyone understood where the series stood. And while I obviously couldn't have seen every discussion, at least on the Avatar Wiki thread for the finale premiere, everyone knew what the scene meant. Even the people who hated the idea of Korrasami were lamenting how obviously canon it was. The "well maybe it actually means something else" takes didn't start until shortly before the confirmation announcements.
I lived 10,000 lifetimes before finally reaching the end of the video.
I agree so much with that last point. It was very apparent to me that korrasami was canon just from the conversation they had at Varrick and Zhu Li's wedding and every second after that just further confirmed it. My cousin and I also texted about the finale the day it aired and he came to the same conclusion as me and this was before Mike and Bryan's posts. I never thought we really "needed" confirmation from the creators because it was pretty obvious from what was shown on screen. This is actually demonstrated by all the reaction videos that came out during that time, the reactors very clearly understood the romantic nature of korrasami's relationship as they watched it. Whether people hated it or loved it, they knew what it was and the people who didn't sounded more like they were in denial about it than genuinely ignorant (at least from what I've seen). The idea that the final shot is in any way ambiguous is honestly baffling to me, they literally had Korra and Asami longingly glance at each other, focused on them hold each other's hands and framed them in a pose and shot that mirrors Varrick and Zhu Li's wedding stance (calling back to an explicitly romantic gesture from just a few scenes ago) while they gaze into each other's eyes. What possible reason would they have for choosing these shots if it's not romantic? How could it possibly be read any other way? The intention was clear as day, even with the network restrictions.
I also don't think it qualifies as queerbaiting. Queerbaiting is a deliberate thing that creators do where they hint (whether on or off screen) at the possibility of queer characters or storylines, in order to gain a queer audience, with no actual intention to follow through. This would make no sense for lok, why would they queerbait in the last episode? They want to attract a queer audience for a non-existent next season? No korrasami isn't queerbait, it's a censored relationship that's mostly relegated to subtext. Except for that final shot. That was just text.
Legend of Korra is a Tv show with the most complicated legacy I can really think of. It is either the most beloved animated series of the previous decade. That was a wonderful continuation of the original series. Or it is considered to be animated garbage. That shitted all over Avatar the Last Airbender. As someone who loves Avatar the Last Airbender and still believes the first show is better. Despite that belief though. I genuinely also really enjoy/love-ish the Legend of Korra. Plus I do know that despite a less great show than its predecessor. Korra every now and then. Did manage to accomplish goals/feats. That the original show didn’t. At the end of the day. I still really enjoy The Legend of Korra. Objective issues/problems and all.
13 year old me is cheering lol Korra rules
Pabu is the best character in this show. Hands down.
Naga solos
I haven't watched the video yet, and I know it's about to bang.
This show is fucking amazing and no one can prove me otherwise.
Korra is a solid 7.5/10 for me.
Amon reminds me of a short story called “Harrison Burguron”. Basically, the government made everyone equal by handicapping people
He's very Kurt-Vonnegut-esque
I don't know if Ill watch the whole video, but I wanna say this but I will say going back and watching Korra is a treat, watching it as a kid I remember doging on it as well (I did start liking it by the third season), but I've been recently re-watching all Avatar both Aang and Korra with my younger brothers Korras story is honestly so good. I'm almost in my mid twenties, I think anybody who watchs Korra should watch again after they experienced life a little and matured it'll give you a new insight whether the show is bad or not won't matter.
Like everybody complaining that it's chorus fault that the old avatars are gone you're so stupid when you watch it again and see how helpless and overpowered she was she literally was trying so hard and let's not forget she felt every hit rava felt too.
I like Korra but there were a lot of really bad plot choices. Korrasami will never make sense to me. I will always think it's stupid, regardless of what people say and what was "hinted" (very poorly if that was their intention) through the series. Secondly, the last season choosing to have the villain who apparently had the "strongest will" to unite the Earth Kingdom just abandon their plans because the Avatar said "that's not nice" is a cop-out. I loved the Zahir arc and the revival of the air nation. I also loved the Avatar Wan and spirit arc stuff as well but some of the writing and pacing was just so bad for the later seasons (mainly due to budget cuts by Nickelodeon, not necessarily the fault of the showrunners)
It could have been great, instead it was alright. LoK is okay, definitely not amazing. It definitely cannot measure up to the original series in any way but it is an interesting series in it's own right.
How does Korrasami make less sense than other avatar couples? They had a very close friendship and it's fair to say that Asami is the closest person to Korra as of book 4 so why is it so unbelievable that she eventually develops feelings for her? It's not like the finale claimed they were in love this entire time, they're just now starting a romantic relationship. They have years of friendship and camaraderie to build off of, unlike the "instant love" thing most avatar couples go for. What "hints" did we get for Sokka and Suki getting together? Suki's 1st appearance: establish mutual respect and friendship between Suki and Sokka, Suki's 2nd appearance: Sokka and Suki get together. Where'd that come from? Not like they spent any time together off screen or anything between those two episodes either. The only "hint" we had that this was gonna happen was that Sokka blushed when Suki gave him a kiss on the cheek but I don't see how that's different to how Korra blushed when Asami complimented her appearance. Other than we're predisposed to expect heterosexual romance in media but not the other way around, which explains why Korra randomly sprouting feelings for Mako in book 1 didn't feel as jarring. Could there have been more effort to put in more hints for Korrasami? sure. But I just don't see how it doesn't "make sense." I mean you did say that you're gonna think it's stupid no matter what people say so I guess you think it's stupid for no reason other than you want to? You do you I guess.
bro dropped the best Korra edit at the end and thought we woulds notice. Bravo Meastro!!!
When I tell you that Goofy goober played I cheered. That song is so Bolin
Finally got around to watching this video in full, thanks for your hard work and going in depth. We will always need more videos like this and not just for Korra
LOVE THIS
I always loved Korra and I’m glad the show is getting more love nowadays
Are you avatar korra fan and legend of korra series fan and avatar last Airbender series ? Sorry for asking this question.
@3:22:05 I don’t think AtLA is less political than LoK, the perils of imperialism and colonialism were central to the plot. It just seems more overt in LoK because it featured a new ideology each season, flavor-of-the-week style. It's probably just another product of Nick ordering the show piecemeal.
Great video overall though, excellent take on every nuance of this fantastic show!
Because it literally just came as I watching the video, I wanted to present my thoughts on the moment.
Amon uses a combination of blood bending and chi blocking to remove one's ability bend permanently, but chi blocking merely blocks one's connection between their chi and their element. At the time Korra got her bending taken away her chi was only connected to water, earth, and fire. Her connection to air was at that time nonexistent. So there was no connection for Amon to block. Thus she was able to form that connection to air out of desperation.
And it is still a powerful moment, if not more powerful with that explanation in mind. Korra had previously thought she would never be able to air bend. And when Amon removed her bending, both of them took it as a certainty she wouldn't be able to bend ever again, and she accepted that air bending would NEVER be possible for her. But then she did it and it not only surprised Amon (which is why he didn't blood bend her in the moment, as he saw no reason to; she was powerless to him), but also gave her strength at a time she thought she was powerless.
Edit: Also, Milo is the best and funniest character in all of Avatar. Not even a competition. Sokka and Toph are pretty funny in the original show, but for how little screentime Milo gets in comparison, he is consistently funnier. The ratio of good comedy to screetime is much higher for Milo than any other character.
Edit 2: I honestly think that Korra'a loss of connection to the previous Avatars could make the new show more interesting. The new Avatar will look to her for guidance, but she herself singlehandedly destroyed the legacy of the Avatar (though not intentionally). It will probably affect how not only she guides the new Avatar, but the new Avatar views her. It could creat for very interesting conversations between the two. Being a novice (and more of a hobbyist writer) myself, I couldn't possibly write such a scene if I tried, but Bryan and Michael definitely can, and I can guarantee they'll be some of the most impactful scenes in the show.
Korra is...amazing🎉 #TLOK4EVER
Are you avatar korra Fan and legend of korra fan ? Sorry for asking this question.
My interpretation of Zaheer in season 4 is not that he’s ideologically changed at all, but rather he just wants to end the fascism going on in the earth kingdom currently that’s it, as he despises tyrannical regimes first and foremost and it just so happens to be Korra wants to end that regime too.
Yeah, he doesn’t really change at all, and if he had the chance he would go right back to enacting his plan, but he did seem to be more reflective during his time in prison and gained a newfound respect for Korra. He still only really helped her because Kuvira represents everything he stands against, and acknowledges that she’s a creation of his own doing, so he felt obligated to help. On a related note: It actually speaks to just how threatening Kuvira was that several former villains like Zaheer, Varrick, and Hiroshi ended up siding with the protagonists to stop her.
@@redwings0142 just all this^ I think you summarised my point much more effectively than I ever could.
No I watched the first few seconds where you added fart noises and said no this is not for me
LOOOOL I Almost left the video but decided to give a chance and it not bad tbh
3:16:09 also Asami offered to go with Korra to the South Pole for her recovery when she has a whole business in Republic City.
I loved Korra, it's one of my favorite shows
Are avatar korra fan ? Sorry for asking this question 🙋.
@@user-bf1nu1gm4u Yes
Good afternoon. Thank you for answering my question. I enjoy avatar korra. Avatar korra and lot other characters are my favorite characters. Avatar korra one is avatar. Avatar korra my favorite in legend ofkorra tv series. I enjoy both series. I'm slowly get legend of korra graphic novels. I started reading rise of kyoshi novel. You have great day and next day and week and weekend and next week and full happiness 😊.
Truth be told, while I love ATLA and believe it to be a masterpiece like many others do, I also like The Legend of Korra and believe it's good in it's own way. There are valid points as to why some people just don't like it (mainly due to the two avatar wan-related eps for various reasons), but I still found myself enjoying it nonetheless
Amazing character analyses. Really enjoyed this video. Thanks! It was very interesting!
When I first time watched Korra I really didn't care about character growth and something like this stuff. Of cource I said "Korra's garbage" and didn't even pay attention to this show while watching. But then after years, when I wasn't obsessed with ATLA I rewatched Korra and... man, I love this... the whole things that Korra goes throw really touches me. Her growth is just wow. Her PTSD, just the way she says "I'm tired Katara, I'm so tired" is sooo relatable. This is freakin great show to me. And now I love this more than Aang...
People wanted it to be tla and that’s why it’s hated I didn’t like it when I was younger because I love aang but I finally watched it and it was great and amazing series was it perfect or as good as the last no not at all but it doesn’t try to be the original one but they build off it and it’s just nice it’s good
a 3 hour Korra video that's not shitting on it?!? lessss goooooo i've found my people
It's easier to find people defending Korra than people hating them(character and series)
@@lothar4085 shii i want your experience in the internet with korra because
i see mostly hate 😭
About the whole Raava and Vaatu = God and Satan thing.
Not only is this NOT how God and Satan works, as they're NOT portrayed as equal forces, (I'm pretty sure the story is that god would TOTALLY WOOP SATAN'S ass when the time came.) but I'm also pretty sure that beings representing objective good and evil are also present in some eastern philosophies/religions as well.
And like Matt said... RAAVA AND VAATU DOESN'T EVEN REPRESENT GOOD AND EVIL NECESSARELY, THEY'RE MORE LIKE ORDER AND CHAOS STUFF!