Couple of things: - My mic volume is way too loud. I tried to fix it as much as possible but next one of these should have better audio and image quality - Completely blanked out when Inchon asked me about each team. Sorry! I was supposed to have the info ready and I didn't. BIG OOPS.
I did really like the commentary, but the color switching is really confusing, I'm aware that you guys are in different teams so you can show both perspectives, but to me it was a constant struggle to know who's who. I know that it's displayed on the top corners, but it's still confusing as hell and very unintuitive, especially with you guys flying around from all angles. Maybe have you 2commentators on the same team and get someone else in enemy team for the map so colors are consistent.
Same, also prefer to keep perspective on a beautiful, organized push up a hill, with coordinated artillery most of the way through, instead of switching away from it as soon as they make any real contact to an already capped point. Kinda frustrating still cool tho
They could do with more observers if you want Povs, they are struggling as it is with just 2. I agree it would be great if they could get povs as well though
It would be great if this commentary could be done after the match is complete, as a post-game commentary. Pausing and rewinding to find the perfect shots would be so good
A great match and a great Co-host. We did incorporate a lot of your guys previous comments, so keep them coming. Granted there is some technical limitations, but we will continue to challenge and mature the admin cam for showcasing HLL organized battles.
I really like these video's! Maybe some stuff to add/follow a bit more in the next ones: Commander ability useage + resource count. Guess you cant really see when and what a commander is using ingame ( with like a console or feed). That would be an awesome addition to spectator mode. Commander X used Y.
Great footage and improvement from last match casted. I think you guys have a lot of good engery regarding the game as well. My split cam suggestion I think would have been great around @24:50 when Hill 15 and the Scar were being attacked, would have like to see both of those great view points and battles. Still solid stuff. I hope the devs give you guys more tools soon to use!
I see what you mean. I could set something like that up, just worried that it might be too little to see if we're both panned out, but only half of the screen to work with. I'll set it up for the next battle and we can see how it works out. Seriously keep the feedback coming.
@@inchongaming1763 ua-cam.com/video/4HhDfc3Qfvs/v-deo.html Here is an example of it from an older game(that also uses Unit Icons like HLL). Thanks for responding!
This is one interesting format , to make it much more interesting you need to view one of the soldiers fighting to make it immersive as you comment on the gameplay
Thank you. We really wanted to incorporate as much feedback as possible. Some we couldn't due to technical limitations, but most we were able to incorporate quickly. No update or patch notes required! :)
@@inchongaming1763 Any chance we could get some close-up action during the heat of battle? There were a lot of moments where a view from inside the strong point would have been phenomenal.
@@ganonn Valid comment and I appreciate the feedback. HLL is actually a hard game to try to show through a "straw" that the admin cam provides. It's a challenge to find the right mix of strategic and tactical aspects of each match. From the strategic sense many people want a COH type of view that shows the macro or meta engagements, map control, etc. However, the real high adrenaline moments for many viewers are the tactical level or individual play. With such a low TTK, those moments are often not identified or identified too late. Each broadcast we're trying to find that right balance and provide a better viewing experience than the previous. Next challenge I have on my list is adding instant replay so when we do capture those phenomenal moments, we can enjoy them one more time.
These are really interesting to watch, and you both provide very valuable commentary on the tactics and nuances of each of the capture points - thank you!
This was really cool, I just started watching your tutorials as well as playing the game so I like that I'm seeing you guys doing commentary too! I would like see if you could combine your views and have the map overlay going while we're seeing the battlefield. Maybe a split screen thing. So that way we can see where enemies are spawning from and their positions around the map. It's a good learning too as well for those watching to see how high level commanders play. I would love to see more close ups of the action too during dull moments, maybe you can follow some interesting people doing stuff. I would suggest also learning and memorizing the terms and phases that you use, so that you can use the more constantly to describe certain events, like a flanks, blitz, turtling, etc etc, that you can easily explain a lot of information, "IAD is preparing X maneuver to get a squad in place to assault A" sometimes you guys were fumbling too much for a word to describe the action and miss covering the stuff that unfolded. Suggestions about what they should be doing is nice, but you should focus more on trying to describe accurately what stats they are trying to employ and if they may or may not be successful. Anyway, great vid. Look forward to me, give more more now. LOL. Some video quality issues when switching between the IAD and 23 cams and overall randomness of audio volume but overall good work!
This is great, i really like this, my only suggestion would be to increase the video quality on what i think is monospacial's admin cam, it looks a bit low res
Great match and coverage; i think that my fav part it's the inial map breakdown, i'm not that familiar with the maps topography so i found all that info really valuable.
This guy keeps swapping out of the action every 10 secs lol. Mono is trying to get the screen over to the action but the other guy keeps swapping back right as something exciting was about to happen lol.
I am in love with this content guys. I love the Madden style commentary and the minds of the both of you guys combined bringing in perspectives of two different brains. This is brilliant and I would love to see a lot more of these in the future. Also it is pronounced Gross-How and not Grass Who haha
color switching made me check out of the match tbh. i feel like for this sorta of competitive casting thing needs to be worked on format wise. HLL community should take a note out of the AOE2 community's t90offical and stick with one dude casting a match. maybe two could work but separate? each team being streamed side by side but casters wont hear each other. would make this sorta content way more entertaining
The Greyhound cup information can be found on the 116 Pz.D Discord. Most battles happen on Saturday starting around 2-3pm EST. The final is on May 22nd, 2021.
with no campaign map, competitive matches are just a waste of time and irrelevant for the future of this good game. It could be a great game, with campaign map elements.
Like I'm new in this game on console.. but sorry I'm better then this guys.. I have lot of things to say about this game.. but it's make me mad.. 23D looks like bunch of guys which they met 5 minutes before game.. n like you can see in game.. 0 communication between players, commanders totally don't help team w garrisons, no one thinking about flank or make flank outpost.. I'm really interesting in this game.. but this is competitive? Like really?.. it's looks same like when I played w this random pro guys.. which they can't garrison after I told him that 2000 times.. like commander I dying.. when I see n must play w this nobrains.. I must go on HQ take supply truck makes garrison, go around attacking point n makes next 2 garrisons.. just because when I drop supply no one reacting on that etc.. etc.. so that's make me mad seriously.. n after that all, this a......holes.. starting arguing w me? Are you crazy?.. no way.. n one more time if this is competitive.. I'm disappointed.. n hope it's will be better coz I wanna go for competitive..
Looking for competitive play. How do I join. I’m currently lvl 206 with maxed out Commander, SL, Engineer, Tank Commander, Machine Gunner and Assault. Steam name Shockwave99
First video here. I just bought HLL and wanted to study up. I was SUPER impressed with this call of the game!!! I hope you guys got a lot of good feedback and I'll be looking for more.
Super late, but I was really surprised to hear Ichon say that the German's had the advantage on this map. I've played Hurtgen about 15 times now and the Germans have only won twice. In one match, I was Germany on a team that had swept the other team 3 matches previously and we still lost. I think the reason is the placement of the middle points, especially Scar and Siegfried, is actually a disadvantageous position for Germany. The hill across the river, on the American side, is an amazing vantage point for tanks, AT guns, and snipers. They can just blast the point from long range and pressure the Germans until an opening allows American infantry to swarm in. Add arty in the mix and its just a death trap for the Germans.
im loving these. One advice i would give is to keep the same view from the viewers perspective the whole game. Switching teams and sides all the time makes it confusing to follow, avoiding that would make it more viewer friendly. keep it up!
Why do you say this? One of the feeds is lower quality because it is getting steamed twice, basically. I did a few of these using local recordings from both and the quality is obviously better.
@@monoespacial I just didn't think the community was this dedicated. Please point me to a team that's recruiting. I'm tired of dealing with randoms that can't follow orders.
@@monoespacial how so? I'm new to HLL and have been a medic this entire time, bandaging people that need to be bandaged, healing people to continue attacking objectives? How wouldn't they be useful lol
@@PotatoMaGobinus I've made a video on it: ua-cam.com/video/Jta1avmGwbY/v-deo.html Basically, If I see a squad using a medic, whenever I kill someone I will wait for the medic to drop their smoke, then nade them both or shoot the medic once he gets there. Medics are predictable and slow you down becuase if you have a good Squad Leader that's placing good OPs, spawning at the OP is always going to be faster than waiting for a medic, unless the medic is like 10m away. The loss of firepower is significant for your squad when running a medic. There's a bunch more reasons. Bottom line is they are useful in a handful of very specific situations, like attacking the beach in Omaha or sometimes when defending a point in Offensive. No serious competitive team uses them, ever.
@@carbon21111 well, their servers, their rules. They don't want non-german speakers in a german server because communication is really important in this game. Just don't play on those servers. There's plenty of others.
@@monoespacial thats the point there is not much others with open slots most of the times. Anyway on any other you can freely speak english like on czeh, hispanic, polish, russian etc
I live in South America. I don't play in SA servers because some people are speaking portuguese and others, spanish. As a spanish speaker myself, this is extremely frustrating as you can't ever communicate properly in games. For this reason, the devs have labeled some of the SA servers as "Español" and "Portuguese". However, I would rather still okay in US servers with 200ms ping than I'm SA servers with 50ms ping. If you're in Europe you should be able to connect to North American servers without any problems.
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Couple of things:
- My mic volume is way too loud. I tried to fix it as much as possible but next one of these should have better audio and image quality
- Completely blanked out when Inchon asked me about each team. Sorry! I was supposed to have the info ready and I didn't. BIG OOPS.
Would it be possible to get an Interview in the End of those Matches? I would be very interested in what they say...
Craziest part was where both teams had a garrison within ten feet of each other, and neither realized it hahahah
Surprising how often that happens in normal games too.
Countless times I have gone to save an overran garrison and found an enemy garrison nearby
I did really like the commentary, but the color switching is really confusing, I'm aware that you guys are in different teams so you can show both perspectives, but to me it was a constant struggle to know who's who. I know that it's displayed on the top corners, but it's still confusing as hell and very unintuitive, especially with you guys flying around from all angles.
Maybe have you 2commentators on the same team and get someone else in enemy team for the map so colors are consistent.
Same, also prefer to keep perspective on a beautiful, organized push up a hill, with coordinated artillery most of the way through, instead of switching away from it as soon as they make any real contact to an already capped point. Kinda frustrating still cool tho
great commentary guys! this is how these matches should be covered. now we could just get some live action povs in there, we be golden.
They could do with more observers if you want Povs, they are struggling as it is with just 2. I agree it would be great if they could get povs as well though
It would be great if this commentary could be done after the match is complete, as a post-game commentary. Pausing and rewinding to find the perfect shots would be so good
Commander and squad chat from both teams would be a nice touch to this play-by-play
i swear to god, every hll player sounds like one of these two guys
We are legion
A great match and a great Co-host. We did incorporate a lot of your guys previous comments, so keep them coming. Granted there is some technical limitations, but we will continue to challenge and mature the admin cam for showcasing HLL organized battles.
That’s dope that you were a commentator
These are a TON of fun
@@monoespacial And you two are doing a great job, I'm getting in the mood for some competetive gaming again.
I really like these video's! Maybe some stuff to add/follow a bit more in the next ones: Commander ability useage + resource count.
Guess you cant really see when and what a commander is using ingame ( with like a console or feed). That would be an awesome addition to spectator mode. Commander X used Y.
Seein hll being played competetively is so much fun
Great footage and improvement from last match casted. I think you guys have a lot of good engery regarding the game as well. My split cam suggestion I think would have been great around @24:50 when Hill 15 and the Scar were being attacked, would have like to see both of those great view points and battles.
Still solid stuff. I hope the devs give you guys more tools soon to use!
I see what you mean. I could set something like that up, just worried that it might be too little to see if we're both panned out, but only half of the screen to work with. I'll set it up for the next battle and we can see how it works out. Seriously keep the feedback coming.
@@inchongaming1763 ua-cam.com/video/4HhDfc3Qfvs/v-deo.html Here is an example of it from an older game(that also uses Unit Icons like HLL). Thanks for responding!
This is one interesting format , to make it much more interesting you need to view one of the soldiers fighting to make it immersive as you comment on the gameplay
You guys really improved the format. Great commentary
Thank you. We really wanted to incorporate as much feedback as possible. Some we couldn't due to technical limitations, but most we were able to incorporate quickly. No update or patch notes required! :)
@@inchongaming1763 Any chance we could get some close-up action during the heat of battle? There were a lot of moments where a view from inside the strong point would have been phenomenal.
@@ganonn Valid comment and I appreciate the feedback. HLL is actually a hard game to try to show through a "straw" that the admin cam provides. It's a challenge to find the right mix of strategic and tactical aspects of each match. From the strategic sense many people want a COH type of view that shows the macro or meta engagements, map control, etc. However, the real high adrenaline moments for many viewers are the tactical level or individual play. With such a low TTK, those moments are often not identified or identified too late.
Each broadcast we're trying to find that right balance and provide a better viewing experience than the previous. Next challenge I have on my list is adding instant replay so when we do capture those phenomenal moments, we can enjoy them one more time.
38:30 Not a pro moment.
These are really interesting to watch, and you both provide very valuable commentary on the tactics and nuances of each of the capture points - thank you!
Cool Format, I think this will bring some interest in competitive gaming.
What an intense match! Thanks for sharing, this has me itching to find a competitive team to join
This was really cool, I just started watching your tutorials as well as playing the game so I like that I'm seeing you guys doing commentary too! I would like see if you could combine your views and have the map overlay going while we're seeing the battlefield. Maybe a split screen thing. So that way we can see where enemies are spawning from and their positions around the map. It's a good learning too as well for those watching to see how high level commanders play. I would love to see more close ups of the action too during dull moments, maybe you can follow some interesting people doing stuff. I would suggest also learning and memorizing the terms and phases that you use, so that you can use the more constantly to describe certain events, like a flanks, blitz, turtling, etc etc, that you can easily explain a lot of information, "IAD is preparing X maneuver to get a squad in place to assault A" sometimes you guys were fumbling too much for a word to describe the action and miss covering the stuff that unfolded. Suggestions about what they should be doing is nice, but you should focus more on trying to describe accurately what stats they are trying to employ and if they may or may not be successful.
Anyway, great vid. Look forward to me, give more more now. LOL. Some video quality issues when switching between the IAD and 23 cams and overall randomness of audio volume but overall good work!
This is great, i really like this, my only suggestion would be to increase the video quality on what i think is monospacial's admin cam, it looks a bit low res
Can we get an "Ähhh" or "Eehhhh" Counter?
These are supposed to be competitive teams, it looks like a random lobby clusterfluk to me...
What tool are you using for drawing on screen? I could really use this for some casting of other games
I'm using Epic Pen, here is the best video I found for using it in OBS. ua-cam.com/video/7Q5yoITiG7o/v-deo.html
The pre-match commentary was the most nerdiest/armchair general type shit I have ever seen. LOLOL
Cool
35:51 spine that fawn
Going to watch all of these, they are great guys, ta.
This is so cool! It’s like a chess game but with 100 people battling to the death!
yes.. just like chess..
Great match and coverage; i think that my fav part it's the inial map breakdown, i'm not that familiar with the maps topography so i found all that info really valuable.
Fart at 16:15
its funny how this looks like company of heroes when you zoom out enough!
That artillery at 24:30 was beautiful, I had to watch it 5 times cause its just so fun to watch
This guy keeps swapping out of the action every 10 secs lol. Mono is trying to get the screen over to the action but the other guy keeps swapping back right as something exciting was about to happen lol.
Jesus, what mouse are you using? Your movement is dizzyingly shaky.
Your partner kept cutting away from more interesting fights that you were highlighting.
Lovely info.
Mic's dont work for 70% of people. The other 30% are hacked.
Good concept for game.
Shitty execution by devs. Sad indeed...
I am in love with this content guys. I love the Madden style commentary and the minds of the both of you guys combined bringing in perspectives of two different brains. This is brilliant and I would love to see a lot more of these in the future. Also it is pronounced Gross-How and not Grass Who haha
color switching made me check out of the match tbh. i feel like for this sorta of competitive casting thing needs to be worked on format wise. HLL community should take a note out of the AOE2 community's t90offical and stick with one dude casting a match. maybe two could work but separate? each team being streamed side by side but casters wont hear each other. would make this sorta content way more entertaining
That is Beautiful~
Too many uhhs
I love to see that this game has competition in it! It makes it much more realistic
This is somehow reminding me of football voiceovers but way better.
What a good game I was glad it went down to the wire and couldnt ask for more!
I wish when you were playing you could hear the teams close conversations
Hi, where can I get more information about the Greyhound Cup
Table, Dates, Times, times?
The Greyhound cup information can be found on the 116 Pz.D Discord.
Most battles happen on Saturday starting around 2-3pm EST. The final is on May 22nd, 2021.
@@inchongaming1763 I know this is late but do you still do this kinda stuff? Like commentary over the battles or host battles?
with no campaign map, competitive matches are just a waste of time and irrelevant for the future of this good game. It could be a great game, with campaign map elements.
Yeah it helped a lot to the future of RS2:V, NOT. devoted dev+publisher make or break the future given player base is present.
This game has so much competitive potential
Like I'm new in this game on console.. but sorry I'm better then this guys.. I have lot of things to say about this game.. but it's make me mad.. 23D looks like bunch of guys which they met 5 minutes before game.. n like you can see in game.. 0 communication between players, commanders totally don't help team w garrisons, no one thinking about flank or make flank outpost.. I'm really interesting in this game.. but this is competitive? Like really?.. it's looks same like when I played w this random pro guys.. which they can't garrison after I told him that 2000 times.. like commander I dying.. when I see n must play w this nobrains.. I must go on HQ take supply truck makes garrison, go around attacking point n makes next 2 garrisons.. just because when I drop supply no one reacting on that etc.. etc.. so that's make me mad seriously.. n after that all, this a......holes.. starting arguing w me? Are you crazy?.. no way.. n one more time if this is competitive.. I'm disappointed.. n hope it's will be better coz I wanna go for competitive..
wtf, they play as bad as people on public servers..
Looking for competitive play. How do I join. I’m currently lvl 206 with maxed out Commander, SL, Engineer, Tank Commander, Machine Gunner and Assault. Steam name Shockwave99
First video here. I just bought HLL and wanted to study up. I was SUPER impressed with this call of the game!!! I hope you guys got a lot of good feedback and I'll be looking for more.
JUST THE TIP!!! 33:03
22:10 yall really cut away from good action twice. Dont do that
Thank you for the years of knowledge!❤️
Super late, but I was really surprised to hear Ichon say that the German's had the advantage on this map. I've played Hurtgen about 15 times now and the Germans have only won twice. In one match, I was Germany on a team that had swept the other team 3 matches previously and we still lost.
I think the reason is the placement of the middle points, especially Scar and Siegfried, is actually a disadvantageous position for Germany. The hill across the river, on the American side, is an amazing vantage point for tanks, AT guns, and snipers. They can just blast the point from long range and pressure the Germans until an opening allows American infantry to swarm in. Add arty in the mix and its just a death trap for the Germans.
You could comment one with Alpine Sniper.
Nobody:
Mono: That was the worst bombing run I’ve seen in quite some time.
😂😂 love Mono
Only one person should talk at a time.
im loving these.
One advice i would give is to keep the same view from the viewers perspective the whole game. Switching teams and sides all the time makes it confusing to follow, avoiding that would make it more viewer friendly.
keep it up!
Outstanding video. Concise yet packed with great tips. Props to the editing / voice over / clip editing. On point.
Inchon: professional level commentary*
Mono: uuuuh ya ummmm idk soooo ya
Really though. How cool would it be if you could jump into a server and have everyone operate the roles as intended?
@35:50 "they gotta spine that fawn from 1AD" made me laugh a lot harder than it shoulda
Love these commentary footages but we need more close ups of the action sometimes
Even clans didnt go for defens hill15. Wth people.
Huhhhh no revives?😴😴
Nice commentary! More zoom in when assault takes place
if you're going to do a live report, make sure the other guy has a good computer/connection,
Why do you say this? One of the feeds is lower quality because it is getting steamed twice, basically.
I did a few of these using local recordings from both and the quality is obviously better.
Great video, couldn't stop watching!
The garrisons right beside each other made me laugh!
Armor combat in this game is a joke
never see a game with real war like this! impressive! tactical , squad game , single initiavite , this game got all!
Isnt real war just a competitive match?
great stuff really enjoying following these battles
woody needa turn that volume up 😂😂😂😂
Are there restrictions on loadouts?
1 2 3
KRRC
This commentary is very professional, thank you @inchon and @monoespacial. You guys rawk \m/
It would be nice to see the map more
The weapons a still not eaqual...
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Just the tip!!!
why is the quality so shity
This is so cool to watch.
But ahhhhhhhhh ya ahh
Fantastic match, very entertaining!
I cant take the guy on the left
Neither can I 😂
yesssss. thank you
Good Game! Good Match!
lets go nice :D
This game is seriously hard.
Yes
There's actually competition teams 😂
What's funny?
@@monoespacial I just didn't think the community was this dedicated. Please point me to a team that's recruiting. I'm tired of dealing with randoms that can't follow orders.
@@sgtstedanko7186 ask around here: discord.gg/AyJ8NurY
Can I join these clans? Im a really good medic
Ask around for clans at discord.gg/npa. However, keep in mind medics are never used in competitive matches. Or at least almost never.
@@monoespacial why??? Medics are useful????
@@PotatoMaGobinus No, they're really not
@@monoespacial how so? I'm new to HLL and have been a medic this entire time, bandaging people that need to be bandaged, healing people to continue attacking objectives? How wouldn't they be useful lol
@@PotatoMaGobinus I've made a video on it: ua-cam.com/video/Jta1avmGwbY/v-deo.html
Basically, If I see a squad using a medic, whenever I kill someone I will wait for the medic to drop their smoke, then nade them both or shoot the medic once he gets there.
Medics are predictable and slow you down becuase if you have a good Squad Leader that's placing good OPs, spawning at the OP is always going to be faster than waiting for a medic, unless the medic is like 10m away.
The loss of firepower is significant for your squad when running a medic.
There's a bunch more reasons. Bottom line is they are useful in a handful of very specific situations, like attacking the beach in Omaha or sometimes when defending a point in Offensive. No serious competitive team uses them, ever.
Why does germnas didn't ban you for not speaking german? It littlary happens all the time
Not sure what you mean. That might be a rule in german servers, but this was neither a german server nor a public match.
@@monoespacial everytime me and my friends are playing on german or french server we got autoban. Those players are super toxic. 23 inf especially
@@carbon21111 well, their servers, their rules. They don't want non-german speakers in a german server because communication is really important in this game. Just don't play on those servers. There's plenty of others.
@@monoespacial thats the point there is not much others with open slots most of the times. Anyway on any other you can freely speak english like on czeh, hispanic, polish, russian etc
I live in South America. I don't play in SA servers because some people are speaking portuguese and others, spanish. As a spanish speaker myself, this is extremely frustrating as you can't ever communicate properly in games. For this reason, the devs have labeled some of the SA servers as "Español" and "Portuguese".
However, I would rather still okay in US servers with 200ms ping than I'm SA servers with 50ms ping.
If you're in Europe you should be able to connect to North American servers without any problems.
"Just the tip"
Can you provide me a time stamp for this?
@@monoespacial 33:03
@@monoespacial ngl, I'm stoked you responded lol
@@NeighborhoodStreetrat awesome, thanks!!!
Great to see you Mono at competetive scene :)
anyone one seen the fish in the water jumping.????? i have,