BUFFALO SABRES RANT | Trade Matt Savoie to Edmonton Oilers for Ryan McLeod and Tyler Tullio
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Comment your thoughts on the Sabres right now…. Don’t hold back.
Cup or bust GO oil
Buffalo is finishing second last in the division. Red Wings and Senators both have had decent offseason (I don't think the Sens are huge winners but they addressed positional needs and found decent options imo) but you look at a team like Buffalo who is making these weird moves throughout their forward core and blueline and banking on two very inexperienced goalies who in fact Sabres fans thought were the next Marty Brodeur and Dominik Hasek along with a dinosaur who's a shell of his former self. Laugh at the Sens all you want (and I get why people do), but we look like a respectable franchise when you compare us to a team like the Buffalo Sabres. Their front office and ownership CLEARLY have no direction and no idea whatever the fuck their doing. Doing shit like this keeps teams in the cellar, while you have teams like Ottawa, Detroit, and Montreal having a direction and an identity they want to play. Not to mention the top 4 who are in the division who are still playing damn good hockey. Sickening bullshit from Buffalo
Who cares buffalo going nowhere.
@@jaredpoonai7909 why? He always telling u bs trade rumours when nhl season starts none of the rumours are true lol 😂😂😂. He tells u fantasy trades he wants lol 😂😂😂
@@HotTakeHockey don’t love it. Think it’s a high price tag and might screw us when trying to get a top 6 forward this offseason. But Ruff got brought in and clearly said to KA “revamp the bottom 6 with speed, physicality, for check and defensive players”. And we were the worst in face offs and upgraded there. It helped round out our bottom six and yes it cost savoie but in reality he wasn’t helping out the next two years. Our top six is Thompson tuch Quinn cozen and peterka with one missing piece. Benson could slide in if he has a good offseason but who knows. You have 4-5 prospects to fill that kulich ostland Rosen Konsta(now) and let alone whalberg who might push to be one of the best out of the bunch. I don’t love the trade but hear me out it’s not as bad as you guys are making it. If we go for a top 6 it makes sense. Again I don’t love the move but big picture…”okayyyyyy”
Now you know how oilers fans have felt for years
Thats what im saying. Glad we are winning trades now lol
@@kneelbeforethelord917it’s about time letttsss gooo
The Hall trade still hurts.
You guys won cups in the 80s… do you know what it’s like to have both teams come up short time and time again
@@lAmCanad1anHall trade was the best thing that ever happened to the Oilers. Larsson helped the oilers start winning and make it to the playoffs.
Hall cared more about living like a Rockstar than playing hockey. Never seen someone throw rager parties after a regular season loss like he won the freaking cup!.
There's no winning with that guy and they needed him gone when McDavid was drafted. He had to get out of the room.
Oilers fan here. I am flabbergasted Sabres did this. That's 2.1M off our books. Savoie is 🤯. He is already our highest rated future in the league at 38 with Borgeault at 97. AND he's born in St. Albert. Jackson is making Holland seem like he was an amateur. McLeod was fast but he wasn't blocking pucks or laying the body. #ecstatic 🎉🎉🎉
Ceci for Sabres 2025 1st? 😎
I probably would have been okay if bourgault was thrown into that trade instead of tullio. But as it is wow. Great deal by JJ!
Savoie isnt blocking pucks and laying the body either. But this is a win for oilers
@@wassupfuqqly7195 No. But he nearly scored a goal per game for MJ. Ryan ain't done that in Bako.
@@premiereent anthony mantha was goal per game in juniors too
This is why buffalo can't make the playoffs since 2011
I'm a Leafs fan and I'm frustrated I'm sorry sabers fans
Don’t be frustrated for us. We will be dominating the leafs for years very soon.
@@bjarczyk doesn't matter to dominate us if you can't make the playoffs I genuinely feel bad for you guys I want you guys to make the playoffs
@@bjarczyk if Buffalo needed 2 points to clinch a playoff spot and they were playing the Leafs part of me would want them to win
@@bjarczyk I’m a Sabres fan and you’re nuts if you think the Sabres are even close to dominating Toronto in the near future. Hell, they’re barely competing with Ottawa and Detroit. Also, I’ve seen your comment about McLeod being the second fastest skater in the league etc. what McLeod brings to the table isn’t the issue with the trade, it’s the asset management that KA is showing, especially with this offseason in particular. On top of that, he’s been preaching this offseason about getting harder to play against, and then his biggest move so far is trading your best, or at the very least one of your best prospects for a guy who is known for being soft AKA the complete opposite of what you’ve been preaching that the team needs.
McLeod is the 2nd fastest skater in the league and is 97th percentile in defense. It’s way too early for people to be flipping out.
As an oiler fan I think his value to the team was underrated. He’s also a great penalty killer. The fanbase hates that he has no grit whatsoever to his game especially for his size, but I guarantee he will be a useful player in buffalo!
McLeod isn’t bad at all, He’s fast as the wind and does a lot of things good, he’s just not physical
Big picture is BUF got better for the next two years when savoie prolly wouldn’t have cracked the line up. Don’t love it but I think it could work out well. Agree we need to add a top 6 wing yesterday as well
He beat McDavid in the Oilers fastest skater competition last year.
2nd fastest player in the league??? Lmao. Larkin will dust that bum and along with a bunch of other players
Hey hardcore Oilers guy here, think we won this trade in terms of raw potential but McLeod is a fast skating defensive forward who gives er on the pk and can read well.
His two knocks are he doesn’t go hard to the inside and I’ve watched him pass away many good shots on days wheee his confidence isn’t up. At his best when he’s on his game his shot can convert and he flies. I hope you guys get that version. Ty Tullio has a good game, but yeah prospect vs prospect you ain’t ending up with the same potential.
Savoie is from 15 min outside of Edmonton, Same suburb as Messier, it’s always good to have a home team player or two, he and our goalie got that goin
Anyhow great rant and hope Sabres get in the yoffs next season the fans deserve it
and they drafted his older brother too
@@brettzahar1416he wasn’t given a qualifying offer this year though, so he’s on his way out.
Oilers are only over the cap by 354,167, got rid of a guy who looks like he's hit his ceiling and restocked the cupboards in the Bake. Even if Savoie never plays a game in the NHL, this is still a win for the Oilers.
Dude, McLeod is a great player……you guys are gonna love him. He will be missed here in Edmonton….i hope you give the guy a fair shake.
@@nskr160 I like the player. Don’t like the asset management on the Sabres side.
Sabres fan here. I’ve been an Adams supporter for his tenure, understanding patience and building up the prospect pool is what is/was needed, especially after watching Tim Murray and Jason Botteril’s runs as GM. This move, the Malenstyn move and freeing up a ton of cap space by buying skinner out and then not spending any money during FA, have put me on the other side. This is absolutely brutal. There are so many other prospects you could have made this move for not named Savoie or Kulich if Macleod was the guy they were wanting. Just fucking brutal.
Oilers fan here. McLeod is a solid player. Great on the PK, 2nd fastest skater on the Oilers. Battles hard and his analytics is actually really good considering he never plays with McDavid or Leon in offensive situations. We also gave another decent prospect. Both teams get what they need. Most oiler fans think this trade was bitter sweet. We lose a solid player because of cap problems, but Savoie gets to come back home to Edmonton and play with his big brother. You’ll end up liking McLeod, he definitely makes your team better now.
Thank you. Getting so much heat here for complaining about this trade. I never complain. I've backed Adams this whole time. No more. This was it.
I think McLeod will do quite well in Buffalo, provided he gets the minutes. Easily a 40-50 point getter if he was to play with the top -6.
Totally agree. He was starved for minutes in Edmonton and will be a major asset in Buffalo.
Getting a 5'9 prospect with potential injury issues is a gamble.
Agreed....After all the armchair GM's calm down, they will see that this deal is not that bad. McLeod is a young bonafide NHL player with plenty of up swing. In the last couple of years he's gained tremendous playoff experience playing with the best players. He is super fast, is responsible defensibly, can score and he is ready now. He is a top 6 player in which the Oilers did not have room for. He will thrive in Buffalo. All Buffalo did was move their prospect pool forward a few years with a guaranteed NHL player. Buffalo needs to gain traction now, not in a few years and that is what this accomplished. I strongly believe the fans of buffalo will get their lightbulb moment on how good he is soon after the season starts. They are really clouding their judgement with Mcleods current level and more so his potential.
He’s seen time in the oilers top six for short periods of time and hasn’t done enough to stay there. If you can’t perform with McDavid or Draisaitl as your center, idk. Great 3c and PKer
All the clowns here continue to pump up McLeod . The dude is a bottom 6 depth role player. He doesnt go into corners and he can’t provide any significant offence. He’s playing to his money and stop saying “he’s fast” no one cares because he does nothing with his speed
There is no way he gets 40 or 50 points.
Put the spray can down
As an Oiler fan I was fully expecting McLeod to be traded, and I was expecting a 3rd rounder for him. I'm still in shock we got Savoie.
that CEO doing all of Edmonton's GM moves right now has had a better off-season than most NHL GMs that are supposed to be "Hockey Minds".
McLeod was part of the Oilers pk that ran over 90% in the playoffs. He was +10, with limited minutes
No he wasn't anything special..
No he wasn't lost his job as the season went on
When I saw this trade on Twitter, I had to check to make sure this wasn’t a parody account. The after the whistle podcast is going to be a must listen
It's like Adams is TRYING to get fired.
Bro, 2 things: You mentioned why would Buffalo make this trade considering their analytics department… Mcleod is an analytics darling. 100th percentile for speed and VERY good on the PK+defensively. #2 Savoie is made of glass and kinda looked lost when he played for Rochester.
Another thing: This is not about lack of direction. Adams drafted a whole bunch of skilled centers because they are coveted by teams. This is how they will acquire experienced NHL players to push them over the top. A couple of bounce back years from Tage and Cozens + Lindy holding them accountable = playoffs. Oh ANOTHER thing: Mcleod scored 3 goals in the Stanley Cup Finals against Florida.
It's not a trade I would make.
isn't Savoie a small guy tho?
But he can get points on the board and he win the whl cup
As a Leaf fan, I would have done that trade straight up for Marner with Retention 😢
Okay don’t say that😂 I finally felt good about it until reading this😂
Didn't you morons say Marner is better than Leon? LOL
For Marner? Dude, that's a bit much. Seriously.
Oilers dump McLeod contract and acquire asset to trade in a bundle with Kane and another prospect. End of the day, both teams got better. Oilers got trade bait and Sabres penalty kill just got 20% better.
How much cap do they have? Are they trying to trade for Crosby or what?
What is Buffalo doing 💀
This trade is an example of why Buffalo is struggling to get into the playoffs.
Sacrificing a really good asset for the future to try and plug in holes in the roster.
This is the first time since Briere/Drury that a high talent young player was just moved for no reason. Frankly it’s been a failure to actually make trades, or to secure the right players in FA to supplement their high picks.
Gonna have to pay or have already paid
Dahlin, power, byram, Samuelsson, Thompson, cozens, peterka, Quinn, benson, ostlund, Rosen, kulich
buffalo sabres gm needs to be fired. This can potentially be one of the worst trade in history.
Savoie in 2 years is going to help mcdavid win the cup
Man sabres fans really have to deal with stupid shit from the organization good god man.
As someone who has actually been following Matt Savoie and the Sabres prospects, I’m gonna temper expectations for him a bit.
Sav is projected to be a second line winger, and has little to no experience going up against adults as we are talking here. Yes he’s really good in the WHL, and yes, Scouts state that he is the best skater on the ice whenever he’s on it, consistently being the first thing that scouts have said since day 1. And btw yes, he has improved greatly since he was first drafted in 2022. The issues that come up are that he’s 5’9 in a league where people seem to be growing all the time. So now he’s currently in a situation where he’s going to have to work harder than other players to get similar or the projected results for him.
The next biggest issue going against him is he has a fairly long history of injuries, hence why he was sent back to the WHL btw which has affected his progress and has caused prospects like Ostlund and Kulich to pass him in skill. Adding in their experience against adults, something Sav doesn’t have right now.
The next biggest thing Sav has going against him is the Sabres newest addition to their prospect pool, Konsta Helenius. A guy who is probably more NHL ready then a lot of the other prospects in the system rn, has experience playing against adults, reports have been similar to Reinhart, and is expected to be ready to join the team next year. Where Sav would be ready at the same time, but 1 year to develop to be ready as opposed to 3.
Not saying Sav isn’t going to be good mind you, just keep in mind that the reasons for this make sense.
Was it an overpay? Potentially. But having read up on some of the stats and circumstances with Ryan McCleod, we got a player from a team with a stacked center group who could potentially fill in holes in the lineup when injuries come in and is considered the 1st/2nd best skater in the league.
Oilers fan here. Buffalo got a hell of a player speed and defensive awareness off the charts and a beautiful smile 🦷
Wow, this is bananas. Savoie is a 9th overall pick, and they just gave him away for spare parts. Crazy.
Nail yakupov was a 1st overall pick
McLeod is a legit NHLer. Played on the best PK in the playoffs, scored playoff goals at the same per game rate as Auston Matthews and has speed to burn.
buffalo is pure trash
As an Oilers fan, I am pretty happy with this outcome. Savoie spent last year playing for my local Moose Jaw Warriors, helping them win their first WHL championship. Plus, he's a fellow Albertan, and we Oilers fans love our local talent. Welcome home, Matt!
In your opinion, how much help was he in "helping" the Warriors win?
@@jeffparcels2410 Hard to say for sure, but he definitely played a part. He got traded to the Warriors in January, so he didn't play the entire season here, but in 23 regular season games, he got 47 points (19G, 28A), so a bit over 2 points per game. In the playoffs, he scored 24 points (10G, 14A) in 19 games, for 1.26 points per game. It cost the Warriors seven future prospects to have him play part of a season here, though.
@@ColtStone Okay, thanks... obviously giving up SEVEN prospects for the guy suggests he WAS their guy... oh, AND... they won, didn't they? This speaks to how promising a prospect the guy is, methinks.
Matt Savoie is 5’9 and has played 1 NHL game.
Ryan Macleod is 6’3 and has played 275 NHL games.
Marchessault is 5'9. Malenstyn is 6'3".
What you’re implying is idiotic
Connor Bedard is 5'10 and has played 68 NHL games.
Cody Ceci is is 6'2 and has played 786 NHL games.
Who's really the better player?
Savoie is a 9th overall pick. You can find as many McLeods as you want in the 2nd round.
Hey you get off of McLeod! Hey you get off of McLeod! Hey you get of of McLeod! Dadadadada dee dadadada.
From what I’ve heard. Savoie is injury prone. 🤷♂️
13 years not making the playoffs
Tell us about it 😁🇨🇦🇺🇸😂
Sorry for this. I hope you guys make the playoffs in the near future. I know the feeling.. the decade of darkness.
Relax bud , Savoie is small and who knows if he can handle the hits in the NHL . Physical play still plays a role in the NHL . McLeod is fast and is a center. We are deep with prospects with talent. If Savoie is the best prospect for Oilers then you have a problem. Sorry dude , you are way off.
the more i think about this trade the more wild it is cause Mcleod at 3c in prolly weakest in the Division for that role.
Savoie has an injury history in a soft league and even got injured in training camp. The risk here is actually one EDMs side. If Savoie can stay healthy he’ll be a great player. But that’s a big if. He needs to adjust his game because he’s been playing against kids for 4 years. If he tries to dangle through people in the NHL he’s gonna fuckin die. Sabres prospect pool is still great. I’d give this trade a B… for the sabres and a A- for EDM. Could turn out great for the oilers… could also be a total bust if Savoie gets his head taken off. Wish him the best though, stay healthy bro.
McLeod was a cap dump and we got a deadly prospect lmao. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I hear ya man, but as an Oilers fan, I also thank you. We'll make sure to raise a glass for Buffalo, when we celebrate next year's Stanley Cup. 🍺
Tanking for pick 1 already love it ❤
Oilers fan here: I get that you may have lost this particular trade, but looking at you roster and cap space, there’s a solid chance you guys getting into the playoffs this year finally.
Now that I’ve taken time to look at his stats I’m extremely pleased with the trade as much as it hurts to see Savoie go. All the move Adams made has made the Sabres significantly better on defense and offense. These moves alone should make the Sabres a playoff team especially with Lindy’s coaching. Let’s see how McLeod and all the others play in Lindy’s system.
You think the Sabres are a playoff team now? For real?
Jack Gunn, yes absolutely. There are massive improvements in team defense, physicality, speed, and forechecking. This should be enough to improve the defense even more and with Lindy’s coaching get the offense back up as well. I do hope there is still a big top 6 signing but I feel that the team is ready.
@@bjarczyk I like your confidence, but it reminds me of the delusion I had as an Oilers fan in the 90's. I saw only the positives, and was expecting the best out of every player and coach. Turns out, not every player has a career year at the same time, and some players simply never reach their potential. That was my reality check.
Sabres fan here, are people losing thier minds? It’s called value!!!! I don’t care if he’s injury prone, whatever, without stats. No other NHL team worth their salt trades a first round 9th overall pick for a third line center. That’s like saying Washington didn’t fleece us after getting a 2nd round pick for a fourth liner. Who may I add just went and signed a player (free agent) who basically replaces who they lost. Absolutely terrible!!!!
@todd, sorry I missed your comment. From a value standpoint think of it like trading a young but unproven running back for a proven really good cornerback. I think your take is too one dimensional. We need McLeod for his incredible defense and speed. Remember the goal of hockey games is also to keep pucks out of our net. The Sabres are now positioned to get offense going again while also becoming a better defensive team. I think the trade was phenomenal.
Buffalo is insane!!!
Super sports agents like Jeff Jackson see things differently than every day run of the mill over-used over employed good ole boys club GMs. Jackson wants this to be his team, top to bottom, before the new GM is hired. Evidently the GM role is easy as shit for Jackson. I wouldn't be surprised if Jackson pulls off one more absolute stunner block buster trade before the season starts. Maybe involving Darnell Nurse and 1 or 2 first rounders. Acquiring a top pairing D no one ever thought would jump ship from their current team to be with the cup or bust Oilers.
Dude relax i think mcleod will end up playing with tage and have excellent chemistry
McLeod is really good at penalty killing and he is super fast!
You obviously dont know whats going on here in buffalo
Calm down. Savoie is 5'9, had injuries the last two seasons, super underwhelming WJC, not a playoff guy. It will be hard to string together a high octane NHL career consistently the way he plays and Buffalo has tons of prospects like Benson that can replace him.
Right now, Buffalo gets a better NHL player. McLeod is one of the fastest guys in the league, one of the best PKers in the league, one of the best 3rd liners in the league, he is established and has a proven role.
Kevyn Adams has officially surpassed Peter Chiarelli in mediocrity levellllll
Enjoy watching McLeod. He will excel in Buffalo. This is the only way we let him go
Who cares. It’s Buffalo
"Thew it all away" 😂 they still have amongst the deepest prospect pools in the league
There’s absolutely 0% chance they even bothered to check around and see what the other trade options were. Pure incompetence.
Other options that get you a 6’3, 3rd line centre who, wins 50% of his face offs, has more takeaways than giveaways, is 24 years old and has already played close to 300 games in the NHL? Great trade
Im a edmonton oilers fan and I like this trade wery wery much thank you buffalo sabres matt savoie against mcleod hell yes every day in The week
Kevin Adams knows absolutely nothing about trade value. McLeod‘s trade worth was probably like a 3rd rounder and then comes Kevin Adams and offers a quite recent 9th overall for him!!! Insane. Sack Kevin Adams now. It doesn’t matter if McLeod turns out to be decent, he wasn’t worth a high first round pick.
Sabre loss is Oilers gain 😊
*Loss
McLeod actually had more impact in the finals then in the first 3 rounds
Hot take
Thanks for Savoi! Sincerely, the Orange and Blue 🧡💙
Enjoy Yamamoto 2.0.
I feel bad for Ramus Dahlin, He’s a great talent on miserable team. Maybe the Buffalo GM would trade him for Nurse 😂
Rasmus dahlin would have been a difference maker in that game 7 for Edmonton 😂
That would be my dream come true
Adams would throw in a first.
Does God Hate Ryan McLeod?
I just wanna thank you in all seriousness because this sums up exactly my thoughts & feelings on this embarrassing fleecing as well.
Look, to all the people saying we should pump the brakes on over reacting. I say wtf???? It’s simple, you look at value for what your giving away, vs what your getting. And a first round 9th overall pick for a third line center. Is NOT good value period. Then to take into consideration the stats at every level savoie has put up, only makes this less so. This was a terrible trade, regardless how it turns out.
i would have rather traded the first pick helenuis to the oiler instead of sovioe. savoie was making the roster this season and also benson and savoie would have been the future for the sabres
Buffalo fans don’t deserve this nonsense.
Why why why?!?! Savoie wasnt even our nimber one prospect lmao!!!! How many more 1st rd prospects do we have ?!?! Man stop whining already
This is horrible by Buffalo
I wish winnipeg would have traded more to aquire Savoie since he already played here
im sorry sabres fan. what a loss
Just become an oiler fan. Easy
I live in Edmonton. Huge Oilers fan. Man did we ever score huge on free agency this week! We don't even have a GM yet. Thanks for Matt. We gettin the Cup this year, you should come over for the finals. This city is hockey insane. Over 50,000 fans downtown for game 7...no riots, just lots of tears. Pitter patter
I'm a Jets/Sabres fan, this trade was awful for the Sabres.
Savoie was giving up to much. Tell me this deal couldn't have been done for Isak Rosen or Noah Ostlund and a draft pick
Savoie BARELY feet tall and already an injury case.youre way off. this is a MASSIVE W for the Sabres
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The entire FA period is a joke for us. I think the Sabres are trying a “major league”, the baseball movie about the ownerof the Cleveland Indians that tried to make the team SO bad for SO long that the fans wouldn’t care if she moved the club to Florida… well ya know what we need?… Charlie Sheen!
Kevyn Adams is cooked and Jeff Jackson is cooking.
So many problems in Buffalo one is no one wants to play there second it’s been half ass for over a decade. Once again the first 15 games will decide the season. I’m glad Donny is gone and hoping Lindy will get the boys fired up and end the never ending excuses.
Chevy missed the chance to trade to get savoie for mcgroarty
Ryan johnson is an excellent defensemen, too bad the sabres are too dumb to see it.
Sabres have to overpay because 1. NYS taxes 2. Players won’t come here because of 13 years of bad decisions at all levels. Savoie has already been passed by 2 prospects and have 3 more first round prospects at forward behind those. There is no room for. him. Sucks to lose him but dammed if you do or don’t trade him.
I feel so bad for the fans in Buffalo.
Yes, our dream of holding on to all our draft picks and assembling the greatest prospect pool to never play is coming to an end.
@@JIMpossible Do you need a hug?
Why does it feel like the camera quality is from 2008?
I do think theres a difference with Ottawa acquiring Chychrun and Buffalo acquiring Byram. We traded Chychrun for picks to help push for the playoffs (though in hindsight it was a bad move) and Buffalo sent back Casey Middlestadt (their top scorer) for Byram. Ottawa had four left handed Dman (Brannstrom was one but he was a bottom pair guy), but Buffalo has four left handed Dmen that could easily play top 4 minutes. I think in terms of that they have a bigger issue than we had in terms of the handness on the blueline.
my optimistic vibes for this new regime have been slowly deteriorating for the last year and a half and now it just sped up a bit. i like the mcleod fit but giving up on savoie this early for a depth piece is puzzling atm
ngl I havent watched the juniors a lot so when I saw the trade I thought Savoie probably was underperforming and probably never going to be the player he was drafted. Then I saw the stats and I saw the opposite.
The value just didnt match at all. This will never be a good trade no matter what because they can get way more with Savoie. Like they can trade him for Necas, or maybe in a package for Ehlers. I dont know maybe we all overvalue top prospects too much? Anyway this is just not a good asset management for Buffalo at all
Over-react much? Mat Savoie is not going to be a stud in the NHL. He may carve out a career as a middle-six guy if he can stay healthy (which he hasn't to date). As a 20 year-old in his D+2 year; he should've absolutely shredded and dominated the WHL last year - he was good but not great; he was actually on the second line in Moose Jaw. He wasn't noticeable at the World Juniors last year (before he got hurt, of course). There's a lot of warts on this guy now. McLeod is a legit 3C - his skill set addresses a huge need for Buffalo. Relax buddy - get off the ledge.
I’ve been saying this!! Sav is a good player but players like Kulich, Helenius and especially Ostlund, someone who played at that same tournament and was by and far considered the MVP of the tournament and would’ve won it if his team won, are all much better players then Savoie. Savoie will make his mark in the NHL, but it’s not going to be for another year or two. And if the Sabres are going all in on a top 6 player, they have Kulich, Rosen and Ostlund who they can use as all 3 of them are much more NHL ready then Savoie is rn.
I don't really like Matt Savoie cus I view him as someone who's never going to be a legitimate top six guy and doesn't have the style I want for my bottom six. I wouldn't trade Zach Bensen though
Listen here buddy, im a fan of your Channel and a Big Sabres fan. Sabres have thier new 3c ok Sabres are win now mode. Sabres have 3 Centers ahead of Savoie in the System Kulich Ostlund and Helenius. Helenius has majorly impressed this week in Dev Camp. Alot of these players are just like Savoie with thier skill sets. You are all getting hyped just because of where Savoie was drafted. Hes he tore it up in the Dub but he hasnt done anything more than that. He is also becoming alot more injury prone which made him lose alot of ice time in prospect games. We got Kulich and Rosen almost on the cusp of making it we still got Helenius Ostlund and Wahlberg coming in the pipeline. Sabres cant wait for every prospect to make it someone or even a couple may still go.
Win now mode? Win the lottery maybe
@@acidraindrops1 nah dont think so
As an Oiler fan i'd like to make a few comments. 1st) We fans know how frustrating it is to have a GM make blunders.. I know exactly how you feel. 2nd) I cant believe we got Matt Savoie in this deal. 3rd) You're gonna like McLeod.. and he has room to grow but not to a Matt Savoie level. 4th) Oilers weren't against the wall when it comes to making cap space. They still have options incl LTIR Kane for the season. Thats all I got.. Thank you. I'm sorry I feel your pain but we're ecstatic about this deal.
Easy there ya Matt is a good player now but that doesn’t always mean they’ll be good in the nhl. I do agree Edmonton stole this all day long. Oilers fan here and yes McLeod will make your teams faster in fact he’s your fastest player now. That said his shooting accuracy is shit and he doesn’t hit.
Let’s be honest here, savoie is already 20 and has 1 game played, for the sabres, they have one of the best forward prospect pools in the league, they get a very solid forward and Savoie is a small forward who we do not know what he could become. Time will tell on this trade.
Thanks for the comment and for being a subscriber! I agree that this doesn’t overly kill their prospect group value, but I think it was a rushed move that required an overpayment, when they could have waited
@@HotTakeHockey agreed, but also like I said before we have 0 clue what Savoie could become, I feel like buffalo could of got a little better but I think this will work good for the sabres and could bring McLeod to another level.
I for one feel this is a good NOW trade. Time will tell.
Sabres needed a #3 center. McLeod is a very fast skater. He took almost all of his face-offs in the defensive zone. Oilers are currently stacked at center. Drafting Helenius gives the Sabres- Kulich, Ostlund, Rosen & Helenius prospects currently not on the roster. The Sabres are stacked already in the top 6- Tage, Cozens, Tuch, JJP & Quinn. Benson has earned a top 9 If not a top 6 role on this team. GMKA needed a #3C & McLeod is making $2.1mil + with 2 more RFA years of control. This might have been a overpay but the Sabres needed a ready NHL player at the #3C spot. Zucker also helps round out the top 9 for now.
Oilers (and huge McLeod) fan here... he's a legit middle six with great experience already (SCF) who plays a tenacious PK. Savoie better be worth it.
Great trade for a Sabres team trying to be relevant again.
What are you talking about?
In the playoffs of the 148 of the faceoffs he took only 35 were in the Defensive zone.
718 reg season only 190 in the defensive zone. He's alright in the Dot. Draisaitl and Derek Ryan are your go to. 428 for Draisaitl. 265 for Ryan. 241 for McDavid 193 for Nuge.
Congrats you got on your team a 3rd line center good for 10 goals a season that can play on your PK.
On the Oilers he lost his job on the PK and at best would be a 4th line center except he plays much smaller than his 6'3 frame.
Oilers gave him every opportunity the past few years. Guy gets 15min a game. Get pk time. Gets bumped up to try and utilize his speed with Draisaitl. Everyone else did the work and he floated around and waited to clean up the left overs. Go watch his playoff goal against Dallas. Draisaitl Perry Nurse Everyone down low doing the work fastest guy on the ice gets in after the defense and cleans up a puck on the goal line.
He's bottom 6 on a weak team, bottom 9 on a good team.
Seems like a nice guy and all but no drive, soft, and given ridiculous amounts of opportunity and not only did he never seize those opportunities, didn't particularly look too interested in it either. Foegele Holloway Ryan Janmark Brown all looked hungry determined wanted it battled. McLeod always seemed like he was just along for the ride and if something came his way, cool.
Unfortunately for the Sabres, they can't attract desirable free agents because they've been losing for so long. As an Oilers fan I feel your pain. Going out and buying players sounds like the simple solution but not so much when you are at the bottom of the list for preferred destinations so overpaying will happen until the winning starts. The good news is Ryan McLeod will likely help the team get into the playoffs sooner than later. As for Savoie, obviously, I hope he meets every expectation but the kid needs work on his defensive game. Many times I've seen players who were can't miss prospects and offensive wizards in junior but couldn't carry their game to the NHL so I will hold off on jumping for joy until he's proven at the pro level. Whatever happens, no point being upset now because we are looking at a couple of years before we see if this deal is really unfair or not.
How do u know savoie is good? Maybe McLeod is better with more ice time. Atleast they're trying something
Savoie is under sized and unproven. He got jumped in the prospect pool several times in just a couple years. It’s a win win trade
BS
Savoie is undersized, so he may not work out that many think.
I remember 2 seasons ago when the Sabres were a point or 2 away from making the playoffs. Now they look miles away from it. The Atlantic division ain't getting any easier guys. You gotta make smart moves if you wanna get into the playoffs.
I understand how this trade might look questionable at first glance, but you essentially answered your own question. Why would Buffalo make this trade? I can't believe for a minute that Kevin Adams is an inept GM who would trade a top prospect without a solid reason. Savoie is an unproven 5'9" center in the NHL, while in return, you're getting a 6'3" center with proven NHL experience. How many 5'9" centers dominate the league? Size down the middle is crucial. I think this is a smart trade, and Adams must have seen something in Savoie that he didn't like.
Best video in this trade yet. Absolutely horrible. I hate the Sabres management right now. Disgusting. The Oilers fans are doing cartwheels right now. McLeod isn’t even a good 3rd line center. McGroraty said he won’t come to Buffalo.
What do you mean he isn't even a good 3rd line center? He's 97th percentile in defense. He played on that record setting PK the Oilers had in their playoff run. Took all the draws in the defensive zone. He's not coming to Buffalo to score goals, he's coming here to stop other teams from scoring on Buffalo. And having said all that, he scored 3 goals in the Cup finals, the same number as McDavid.
McLeod is a 1 year experiment,he is an NHL player that can play 12-14 minutes a night. Zucker is a one year experiment. Every Free agent signed for one year except Lafferty,he got 2. Savoie is 5’8,about 160lbs,he is a project,and not ready for prime time. Buffalo has 4 prospects exactly like Savoie. Hot take? Sabres are FOR SALE……..what?
You heard it here first!
As an Oiler fan, I know all too well about losing trades and having a continuously bad team. Have always seen lots of parallels between the Oilers and Sabres, so I’ve always considered the Sabres to be in my top 5 fav teams. Glad the Oilers fleeced someone on a trade, just sucks it was against the Sabres. Feel bad for the fans of this team.
I'm happy for the Oilers, they may not be able to win Game 7's but they can at least win a trade here and there.
Beat Vancouver in game 7. But maybe you don't understand hockey it's all gd
@@WinterWoolies Still triggered?😉
Sam Reinhart also comes to mind, here.
I hear ya. I'm an Edmonton fan and can't believe it. Someone needs to get fired.
Come be a oilers fan
Love this guy’s passion