It cost $250,000 for 9 SECONDS 🤯🏃🏿♂️
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That’s why now everyone need to have their own videographer
I don't think you are allowed to use any film of the races without consent especially for a film
@@jboogs49probably needs to be negotiated in terms of how much time has to pass before you can use it. But many times it’s the size of the athlete that determines that negotiation. A Usain Bolt would’ve held more say than the average runner.
Yeah I’m pretty sure this wouldn’t even be a discussion if they could have their own video crew
When it comes to plagiarism rights, it’s whoever pushed record. So even if athletes had videographers, they’d still have to pay for the 9seconds that they created because the athlete didn’t push “record” the videographer did.
That cost also
This is what you call a podcast. Give unknown information enlighten the people . Good job 👏
Facts
Really grateful for this podcast! I've been enjoying the increase of sprint/track/field related media.
Thanks for your work!
Keep up the good work Justin and Rodney 🇧🇸🇧🇸🇧🇸
Without them, they wouldn’t even have that 9 seconds! But that athlete can go 9 seconds without them! FACTS
He doesn’t own that clip. Why doesn’t he get his own people recording at all his events. Every event he competes in from amateur level to whatever event. Get your sibling/Agent or anyone recording. Ask MJ. Problem solved.
@@MrSupermanbeNot allowed under contract.
Contractually, it's not allowed probably
The sport is not getting the attention from the fans!!they can't afford to even show the events other than the Olympics!!
I mean the oregon championships in 2022 was the most viewed in history. Im sure last year didn’t drop off like crazy. Has nothing to do with attention. It’s the greedy owners
Is it the sprinter’s fault or the organisation’s? 100m is viewed more than any other Olympic events including basketball.
That’s primarily in the states. The rest of the world pack stadiums for their track athletes the same we do NBA/NFL.
@@trevonjoyner1102internet has gotten more exposure 😂but the sport had really died
Is there even a professional track team. Personally . Who wants to sit and watch college if there’s not even a stage after that
Wow what a insight sounds like a financial opportunity to help these athletes get what they earned!!! Win win
Honestly, I saw Ta Lou's from CIV interview where she said she had no sponsorship. It broke my heart as a fellow African, considering the fact that she's a top contender in major competitions including Olympics and WAC
Hell of a series. Hopefully we dont have to wait as long for the continuation
Wow... i hear this and feel you on this point. The world is upside down. Mote power to you and all who are creating podcasts etc. To raise awareness and get your stories told...of the challenges faced. ❤
Tik Tok is much cheaper. Hire young people to market to young people to grow the sport, then the audience.
9 seconds for 250k is absurd and it is more about gatekeeping the access to contents to only high worth B2B customers..
And making a monopoly out the track and field sport broadcast.
That in turn has the downside of restricting visibility to the ones who matters the most : the fans.
If the access to the content gets limited, there is no way the fan base attention is going to remain consistent. That is why the sport is not growing. We cannot always wait for the next ultra dominant athlete (e.g Usain Bolt ) to carry the sport for others and keep it relevant.
It's simple, track as it stands right now, does not generate much revenue
@@malcolmn.5222 Its in the wrong hands and its our fault. With 9 strands of DNA and a genius creative bloodline, why are we still depending on them when we are supposed to CREATE?
Preach brother!
Honestly, I saw the interview of Ta Lou from CIV where she said she had no sponsorship. It broke my heart as a fellow African, considering the fact that she's a top contender in major competitions including Olympics and WAC.
Right.
Track and Field NIL deals forthcoming....
NBC has exclusive rights to the Olympics. Even with your own videographer, it will not be possible to distribute commercially.
Your 9 seconds... their camera.
THE last Olympics cost 1.3 billion and the Top athletes in the 100/200/400/800 make $50.000 the time is NOW' for Black Athletes to unite and organize and demand $1.million for the first prize and forget the FLAGS: MO. GREEN WAS CHASTISED FOR RAPING THE FLAG AROUND HIS SELF ' PEACE.
Facts!!!!!
If someone that you have designated is filming with a, say cel phone, don't you get your "nine seconds" for free ?
I doubt it would have anywhere near the quality and production that the NBC footage has. And that's the flaw in the argument. The production, filming, camera angles are all costs incurred by NBC. Not to mention the cost NBC paid the Olympics to be exclusive broadcasters of the event. Someone else...even an athlete who wants to create their own documentary which will have a commercial value should pay that fee.
Recording with a cellphone diminishes the quality of the broadcast and is also disrespectful to the talent. These guys and gals put crazy hours in to be there they deserve top tier documentation.
@@ariefraiser140 Agreed.
@@0btb7 I concur.
Big time NIL issue. There isn’t a pro sports league where athletes own their data. Great points, Gat
Big up Justin
That's how you know you are a captive
That’s a great point
Wow you tell it like it is
The math for people participating in the sport has never added up.💡💡
That's crazy honestly 😅
They create the 9 secs but they don’t capture the 9 seconds. Thats like saying you wouldn’t buy portraits from a photographer because it’s you
It's still bad, since buying the "capture" or the "photographer's works" is really out of reach for the athlete.
It's not really about who owns or creates the event, but it is about making it available and somewhat affordable. I don't think the 9 sec video should be sold for 5 dollars or even 100 dollars, but it should be within some reasonable range.
9 seconds for 250k is absurd and it is more about gatekeeping the access to contents to only high worth B2B customers..
And making A monopoly out the track and field sport broadcast
@@Labandusette but they trying to buy the 9 secs so that they can make money off of it I.e documentary and if athlete is good enough they’ll make more than that 250k. Can’t be too absurd if they still pay for it
Whoever owns it determines the price it called capitalism/supply & demand.
Totally agreeing with you, but how sustainable is it for those broadcasters ?
If the supply is scarce, the interest will diminish with time. If the goal is to grow the income, you need to grow your customer base and their interest as well as the affordability.
If it remains too expensive, then they won't buy it in the future.
You can only gatekeeping that way for so long. With the era of social Media, New media streams (Amazon , Google TV, UA-cam, apple tv, etc.. ) competition is coming. It is only a matter of time until someone finds a way to monetize this content in a better way than the traditional process.
@@Labandusette I do agree with this statement. I hope there is other people that can fight for licensing rights. NBC/fox/cbs have been main broadcasters for as long as I can remember. Competition on that side will always be a W for athlete and viewer alike.
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Wow. I had no idea this is how things go with this sport.
That's messed up!!!
You guys don’t own the rights to the videos bro, never have never will.
Genuine question here (no sarcasm, I'm really trying to understand). How does NBC end up with exclusive rights to "your content"? I think thats where the problem starts. Once that issue is fixed, athletes will be better able to market themselves and i think the sport will grow.
Thats so sad
Does NBV own all T and F footage or just the Olympics?
I would ask the public for anyone who has decent phone footage to please send it for a much more modest fee of course. but thats just me.
Record your own version of the 9 seconds. Great cameras are inexpensive now. The networks own the broadcast, not the 9 seconds.
There are a lot of killers in this sport. The false start disqualify is the single worst rule in all of sports. They should move the false starter back by 10 feet the first time and disqualify the second time. No running under protest what a waste of time. They also need jerseys or selected jersey numbers tied to their names permanently. This is why the athletes don't make money. The identifiers associated with sports leagues are not present in track and field.i mean we still out here calling it TRACK AND FIELD.
What else would you call it. And if you move 10 feet back you might as well not run
@@wesleyowens4089 tell that to the people who win by ten feet
One word: G-R-E-E-D. You can't at the VERY least cut that by half for the athletes who have given you this footage to use in perpetuity? Charge the major studios and networks what you want, but as it was said, you don't even have the footage without these legendary men and women. Forty percent of the going rate sounds much more reasonable, and that's still $100,000!
Is the solution not to have your own video person in the stadium?
I don't agree at all with this take. NBC had to incurr some considerable costs to get that footage. They first had to pay a fee to be the exclusive broadcaster of the Olympics in the US probably in the multi millions. Then they paid for specialize expensive cameras to capture every nansecond in multiple different angles ..again likely costing multiple millions. They then paid for the people involved in broadcasting and photographing that 9 seconds. While the athletes are participants in that 9 seconds they didn't put up any capital to capture those 9 seconds in the quality NBC did. Now they want to produce a documentary using that intellectual property owned by NBC. A documentary that could earn them money. They have to pay for use of NBC's intellectual property. By the way all sports work this way. NFL and NBA players who want to create a documentary about their sport and games they played in still have to pay a fee to those leagues to use the footage.
There is no argument that Gatlin should pay. But is it by that much. Without the top sprinter, there is no video. Those crews are also there anyway for the olympics. Should there be other kind of deal that can help gatlin more with his documentary.
@@Peter-hz3vs NBC can charge whatever they want. They can also prohibit anyone from using it no matter how much is offered. It's their intellectual property. Is $200,000 fair? This year NBC paid $7.65 BILLION to be the exclusive broadcasters of the Olympics through 2032. $200,000 in that context seems fair to me.
Understand that when they buy these right they are then redistributed. They make a profit regardless. Gatlin is right.
@@dwadeworkx1644 Nonsense.
NBC killed the sport by trying to own the Olympics coverage. What Gatlin is saying is not really a take, it’s a consequence of a single station owning all the broadcast rights. The worse consequence is NBC charges so much for secondary broadcasting that they’ve killed the audience. Track and Field is now mostly out of sight and out of mind. Oh and then there’s FlowTrack doing their best to hide the body.
Let’s be honest, it’s more like 10 seconds
Which podcast is this?
This man really do need to go to school!
Dude sounds alright to me. He's communicating and we're understand.
So basically athletes can not make money of there own images and likeness?
Find other people who were there and recorded the event.
Here is the real math. The money (public interest) is not there in track in field. Only a few people can make a real living at track and field. That's just how it is. Not all business are profitable. Most aren't. The entertainment business is extremely competitive. Just in the sports entertainment niche there are countless products: football, basketball, baseball, hockey, mma, boxing, golf, tennis, swimming, triathlon, olympic sports, X games, etc. And then within some sports there are multiple products - college and pro football, college and pro basketball. And then different genders - men's college basketball and women's college basketball, men's pro basketball and women's pro basketball, etc.
i always said nbc is the worst with this.. you can't find the event anywhere
This is a very dumb definition of value chain
Loop hole bro.
Android phones does a good job ask a fan or family even friend to record the events.
u can't publish it without NBC or ABC thry will take it down if you try to publish ur video
Wouldn't it be considerably cheaper to hire your own camera man with good equipment, and have them travel to record the footage?
What you guys are identifying is the same thing that happens in the music industry, the artist don’t make as much as the executives and owners of the labels! So what you’re saying is in sports, the athlete does all the work, someone photos it or tapes it and they derived the wealth from your talent…it makes no sense!!!!
Why is double cheater talking at all???
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The Plantation is alive and well.
The old slave mill is grinding slow, but grinding still😢
I loved watching this dude run.
....... best 9 seconds ever!
Track and Field is a rich welfare sport. There many areas of the sport structure that's not in the athletes favorite to generate organic revenue and the athlete is their own down fall with their PB tunnel vision. I do have the answer but, the Olympian athletes I've spoken to can't see them self making money in their discipline outside of the system that's killing them.
Unless it’s the Olympics no one will watch
When bolt ran millions used to watch. No one cares know. Bolt transcended the sports that’s why.
dudes onto NOTHING he really though he did something and just said a bunch of words trying to sound smart but sounded the exact opposite
That’s why the sport ins’t mainstream. It doesn’t deserve the spotlight. Simple
Killers of the sport is your drug use.
Its cause no one cares dawg. Pick a better sport
Lol..
Pick a better sport is wild. The sports great, it’s just about trying to get more attention drawn to it. Personally, I don’t get why people wouldn’t want to watch the fastest people on the planet run.
they don't hit each other no contact people like contact sports @@vi5ionnono507
People only cared about bolt because he was fun to watch. No one cares about anyone else lol
@@GladwinAbel always wondered what was it about bolt exactly that made everyone want to watch him? Even people who couldnt care less about running.