Justin Gatlin breaks down the REAL difference between NFL speed vs Track Speed 🔥👀

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  • @jessegoodwin2117
    @jessegoodwin2117 7 місяців тому +301

    The change of direction and speed modulation are what make the difference. It’s like a top fuel dragster vs a formula 1 car

  • @everyonecanachieve
    @everyonecanachieve 8 місяців тому +468

    This is pure wisdom. Football players are gazelle’s and track athletes are cheetahs. Also excellent point about track athletes not being conditioned to stop

    • @blkhauck
      @blkhauck 7 місяців тому +19

      It's the first time I heard anyone break it down like this. It makes a lot of sense.

    • @saulm1962
      @saulm1962 7 місяців тому +7

      Bob Hayes and Ronaldo Nehemiah were great at both.

    • @kamuishortsgamer3728
      @kamuishortsgamer3728 7 місяців тому

      Bad analysis. Cheetahs catch gazelles for a reason. And the reason that they lose them isn't because cheetahs can't cut angles or stop and start at a dime but because their brains don't allow them to have the energy output constantly to do that for long.
      ^ this is a hyper anal criticism that I only make because I feel that people would actually believe that cheetahs cannot cut angles as crazy as gazelles. trust me they can.

    • @marvinhunt1049
      @marvinhunt1049 7 місяців тому +6

      ​@@saulm1962 If you remember Bob Hayes played football at FAMU and if you compare his size to the other sprinters there was no comparison. He was a bigger sprinter. I was way too young to know what I was looking at (elementary and jr high school) Being a big Cowboy fan (I grew up in Ft Worth, Texas) I remember every one at receiver wanted to wear #22). Skeets on the other hand, I remember clearly (I'm a bigger track fan than football ball and I LOVE football) because I remember him being so dope on the hurdles in the Olympics. When he got a shot with the 49ers, it was about his speed and not so much his skill set. He played some in highschool and none in college. He played for a couple of years and went back to running hurdles. He found out those NFL hits were a little different. One of my boys got cut to make a slot for Skeets (Eric Herring from Houston Yates HS along with Dexter Manley and a few others that went pro from that graduating class and UofH as a receiver). He got a SB ring before he left though.

    • @rjharrold2907
      @rjharrold2907 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@saulm1962different era

  • @realkylehooks
    @realkylehooks 7 місяців тому +140

    I got to play basketball with Justin once. My team got on a fast break, and I was sprinting all out to try to get an open layup on the other end. Seeing him casually jogging down the court and flying past everybody was special. I used to play basketball with Doug Baldwin who played WR in the NFL for several years, and he was way faster than us, but Justin had that speed just jogging. The way Doug changed directions was elite. The way Justin runs straight is elite. Like he said, totally different worlds.

    • @waltersobchak4079
      @waltersobchak4079 7 місяців тому +4

      Lol, just imagined myself trying to beat Doug Baldwin off the dribble... didn't go well

    • @realkylehooks
      @realkylehooks 7 місяців тому +4

      @@waltersobchak4079 not one of us ever had a chance of getting around him off the dribble. Some of the bigger guys could muscle him up in high school when he was thinner, but absolutely nobody ever got around him. He also had that huge wingspan and quick hands, so he was definitely a problem on defense

    • @richardmorris6365
      @richardmorris6365 4 місяці тому

      Thanks, good analogy

  • @Cezer35
    @Cezer35 7 місяців тому +134

    The cheetah vs gazelle comparison is a top tier comparison

    • @Abdi-libaax
      @Abdi-libaax 7 місяців тому +4

      It’s not, the Cheetah is better than the Gazelle in turning stopping and top speed.

    • @Snowboarding2020
      @Snowboarding2020 7 місяців тому +8

      ​@Abdi-libaax lol stay in school kid

    • @Abdi-libaax
      @Abdi-libaax 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Snowboarding2020 is that all you have to say?

    • @yaahlabanyamyan144
      @yaahlabanyamyan144 7 місяців тому +4

      ​​@@Abdi-libaax in terms of " turning " the Gazelle actually outclasses the Cheetah. In fact it's the Gazelle's only trump card against the Cheetah, as in the straight ahead open field no living mammal can out run the Cheetah on land. The Cheetah makes up for this however with it's extra long tail, which it uses as a rudder to " steer " it as the Gazelle makes it's sharp turns.
      You are not 100% incorrect in regards to " stopping ", as the Cat, is the only mammal capable of tracking down a Squirrel (one of the most, if not the most premiere change of direction mammals on earth) in the open field.
      Lastly, " top speed " goes to the Cheetah. A Cheetah reaches speeds of 60 - 70 mph (in under 10 seconds) whereas a Gazelle maxes out at 55 - 60 mph in the open field

    • @Abdi-libaax
      @Abdi-libaax 7 місяців тому +1

      @@yaahlabanyamyan144 gazelles fall over while trying to shake the Cheetah the only advantages they have are stamina and the distance the chase starts from.

  • @ignaciofuentes2642
    @ignaciofuentes2642 7 місяців тому +70

    Best explanation of this topic I've every heard. Another way to say it is that track is about top speed...football is about quickness. In football you are never going to run 100 meters so your top speed at 100 meters doesn't matter. Football is about quick acceleration. That's why football uses the 40 yard dash to measure speed and quickness.

    • @MichaelHines-sl3tx
      @MichaelHines-sl3tx 7 місяців тому +2

      It matters for wide receivers and corners

    • @ignaciofuentes2642
      @ignaciofuentes2642 7 місяців тому +2

      @MichaelHines-sl3tx Nobody in football runs 100 meters. Punt and kickoff returners do on very rare occasions but most plays in football are under 50 yards. Wide receivers need to create seperation about 10 or 20 yards into their route. Corners need closing and catch-up speed. It's not about reaching a high top speed after 80 meters.

  • @SSSMOR.
    @SSSMOR. 7 місяців тому +19

    That stop and go is real talk that's how football players that run 4.5,4.6 can still play in nfl and be successful playing against guys that run 4.3,4.2 they can stop and go and create separation or close space quickly

  • @404EyedAce
    @404EyedAce 7 місяців тому +5

    Full vid please. My son needs to watch this. All young athletes need to hear this bit of sports wisdom.

  • @TheGreatness-gg1jx
    @TheGreatness-gg1jx 8 місяців тому +36

    Since the days of Bob Hayes football and track have diverged into two completely different types of speed, and two distinct Sciences and Techniques.

    • @andrew348
      @andrew348 7 місяців тому

      BS. They were already different back then.

  • @TheRelevantUnknown
    @TheRelevantUnknown 7 місяців тому +33

    This is the big difference between RG3 and Lamar Jackson. RG3 ran track at a high-level (NCAA championship and record) and did track workouts. His body wasn’t developed for the lateral shifting and pounding of the NFL. Lamar ran track in high school, but was all football in college. He’s much more gazelle with cheetah speed.

    • @soulofomen8764
      @soulofomen8764 7 місяців тому +3

      Wooooow! Thats a mind opener.

    • @ignaciofuentes2642
      @ignaciofuentes2642 7 місяців тому +8

      Lamar also has a special ability to go down without taking monster hits. RG3 always waited a half a second too late to go down. Even Russel Wilson hardly every got hit early in his career. He picked up what he could and then slid. No disrespect to RG3 though...he was a beast and everybody wants a QB like him now. There would be no Lamar without RG3.

    • @lornegreen6755
      @lornegreen6755 7 місяців тому +3

      RG3 lacked spatial awareness that was his problem. That straight line speed was his strength and his weakness

    • @BroCoolFire
      @BroCoolFire 7 місяців тому +2

      RG3 underestimated the power of those hits in his body over time

    • @platinum6mld
      @platinum6mld 7 місяців тому

      @@lornegreen6755the heisman trophy winner and the best player in cfb during his time didn’t have spatial awareness ???

  • @CS-dg4dn
    @CS-dg4dn 7 місяців тому +8

    Continue to support justin and other track athletes.😊

  • @mozer8035
    @mozer8035 8 місяців тому +39

    One thing I noticed when I bounced track to football and also dabbled off season in b-ball and soccer on wing, was that football requires a warrior switch for the combat-contact element that doesn't seem to exist in those guys. Nobody is pure breezing through a career without occasionally taking a physical beating. First guy is correct a speedy footballer has the intensity to train hard on form and drop weight to run track faster, but track,soccer and b-ball don't desire the occasional feeling of a small car crash. I think footballers and rugby dudes have a bit of military style fighting spirit, where you expect pain and collision as a rite of passage and kinda like it as a badge. Those other sport cats I spent time with definitely felt soft and often acted harder than they were but didn't want any piece of it when I suggested trying football for some of the more athletic guys.

    • @rhodwilliams7258
      @rhodwilliams7258 7 місяців тому +10

      Yeah I agree. There are soccer players who could easily be amazing at rugby they just haven't got that dog in them... plus soccer pays far more sooo

    • @kittyodowd6816
      @kittyodowd6816 7 місяців тому

      Totally agree!

    • @thebucketmanj8525
      @thebucketmanj8525 7 місяців тому +10

      Basketball takes a warrior spirit too. It’s not compared to football tho. But you do have to be prepared. But I think boxing trump all sports when it comes to being a warrior. I remember watching a boy named cocoa getting a beating one day I was at a boxing gym. I said I’m good and stuck to basketball. I seen the training too I was like nah imma stay skinny.😂

    • @andreylavi111
      @andreylavi111 7 місяців тому

      Facts.

    • @keyboard2758
      @keyboard2758 7 місяців тому +2

      Wrestling like that too

  • @CYMotorsport
    @CYMotorsport 7 місяців тому +3

    All fantastic points. It’s precisely why you see trindon run a combine 4.3 knowing good and gd well if his body was in track form, he’s lopping a quarter of a second off the top no problem. Muscle structure is mission critical when we’re talking speedsters and how their body must perform in the nfl. Trindon also wouldn’t be running at an ncaa final 168 pounds like he was on combine day nor could he bench 2 plates 10 times weight a buck fifty and change. Speed maintenance isn’t the point of football running which is why a track star also isn’t going to tail an explosive RB and chase them down through holes. We saw Calvin Johnson do it in a straight line but that makes sense

  • @CntrBrdr
    @CntrBrdr 8 місяців тому +45

    I've perhaps never before heard Justin Gatlin speak, and this brief interview contained surprisingly intriguing insights.

    • @emmanuela7528
      @emmanuela7528 7 місяців тому +4

      He’s always like this. Always imparts wisdom, never says bad things about other people, generous with his knowledge.

    • @michaelshannon9169
      @michaelshannon9169 7 місяців тому

      Jesus, are you Stephen Fry? Mr Indeed Jolly Good.

    • @lazytocook
      @lazytocook 7 місяців тому +1

      Anyone who has never listened to Gatlin speak will pass him as an unintelligent drug cheat. But if u take time to listen to what he says u begin to realise the guy might hv made mistakes but he is smart.

    • @mewtwobaws5420
      @mewtwobaws5420 5 місяців тому

      why surprising?

  • @markjohnson345
    @markjohnson345 7 місяців тому +9

    This was very interesting comparison Justin Gatlin made between football v. track athletes. I thought Justin's comparison with gazelle v. cheetah was pretty sharp.

  • @josephroach
    @josephroach 8 місяців тому +15

    I love this channel so much… great information, learning a lot.

  • @margaretscott6296
    @margaretscott6296 7 місяців тому +4

    Great points. Some people are just fast, with or without equipment, aka Darrell Green. He still kept a very small build because of being a DB. Demps, and even now T. Hill put on lots of muscle to take the constant pounding. Hard to have a long career as a speed guy in the nfl. We all wish track guys did/will make good money in their career.

    • @willms7173
      @willms7173 7 місяців тому +3

      Darrell Green, basically said that players rarely run at top speed in football. Although a kickoff returner looked like he was running full tilt, for a moment, in the most recent Superbowl.

  • @MrCorner21
    @MrCorner21 7 місяців тому +3

    Change of direction is key with football, and then the repetitiveness of acceleration and deceleration throughout 60 something odd plays

  • @dwaynestephenson8867
    @dwaynestephenson8867 8 місяців тому +31

    With track it one straight line and with football you have to stop and start and turn at a different angle all the time.

    • @Christian-se5si
      @Christian-se5si 8 місяців тому +2

      more top end speed still translates

    • @Donoloui
      @Donoloui 8 місяців тому +6

      Just depends on the kind of sprinter you are. If you’re a big strider person like Joe Fanbullla or Shaun Maswagni then yah. But if you have footspeed like coleman or holloway, you can easily learn how to stop and start. Theyre the best athletes

    • @dennisrobinson8008
      @dennisrobinson8008 8 місяців тому

      @@Donoloui Back when Fanbullah was a 10.08 at University of Florida, there was a race where he was blown out to 40m. He was already down by 3-4 strides... It may have been equivalent to a 4.6 or 4.7 40 yards dash, where the other sprinters would be 4.1-4.3's... His technique at the time was to stand directly up out of the blocks, and his propulsion looked like walking fast. It wasn't until he gets moving that his speed is evident, but all the steps before that point are completely inefficient...
      I found the race. 2021 FSU relays 100m. I"m not sure if youtube will let me post the link but i will on the reply to this.

    • @dennisrobinson8008
      @dennisrobinson8008 8 місяців тому +1

      Fanbulleh would be terrible for moving on a football field.... He could correct me by having some football speed and running different on the field, but his track style would be slow and poor acceleration.

    • @dennisrobinson8008
      @dennisrobinson8008 8 місяців тому

      ua-cam.com/video/VTUl4bSNneQ/v-deo.html

  • @Agent007202
    @Agent007202 7 місяців тому +14

    Justin hit it right on the money.

    • @BeHope113
      @BeHope113 7 місяців тому +1

      Most definitely. Excellent explanation

  • @L4NkYb
    @L4NkYb 7 місяців тому +2

    I think the thing to remember about that gazelle-cheetah comparison, is that the gazelle usually gets away

  • @dave929
    @dave929 6 місяців тому

    Agreeing with Justin. Training is totally different. Two of us could always sprint faster than the players, but they could outsmart us on the football field.

  • @travb120
    @travb120 7 місяців тому +10

    Tyreek is a rare track guy that's actually good at football... he ran 20.14 in high-school which is 4th all time and 10.1

    • @christopherbrown9279
      @christopherbrown9279 7 місяців тому +3

      He's not that rare. A bunch of guys that played football ran track. Deion Sanders, Bob Hayes etc...

  • @humanstation8193
    @humanstation8193 7 місяців тому +2

    Ron Brown (LA 1984 relay team and US nationals top 4) was the best example. LA Rams wide receiver. Good hands

  • @thebestisyettocome7
    @thebestisyettocome7 7 місяців тому +6

    Great analogy Justin.

  • @scopio39
    @scopio39 7 місяців тому +2

    I did both football to track. I ran track to get faster at football! We didnt have foam rollers back then probably why my back hurts now lol! Great question and answer!

  • @almonjoseph4382
    @almonjoseph4382 5 місяців тому

    justin running a 4 flat in 40 would make him a 1st round nfl pick, theres always a gm out there that loves speed and will take a speedster no matter the production

  • @PatrickWilliamShaw
    @PatrickWilliamShaw 7 місяців тому +1

    This was fantastic. Thank you so much gentleman. God bless.

  • @LuckyShowTime
    @LuckyShowTime 6 місяців тому

    I played football 5 yrs before I ran track. That’s when I realized its “Football fast” and “Track fast”. Issa difference.

  • @scottmitchell1974
    @scottmitchell1974 7 місяців тому +3

    Look how thick RBs are. The NFL is full of guys under 6' who are well over 200 pounds and don't get caught. They need those thick haunches and legs to change direction and move piles.

  • @harwn999
    @harwn999 7 місяців тому +20

    Cheetahs turn on a dime as well. Split second direction change. That’s why they have a long tail

    • @willms7173
      @willms7173 7 місяців тому +2

      And claws as well to grip the ground.

    • @lawrenceusher1902
      @lawrenceusher1902 7 місяців тому +5

      but not like gazelles

    • @andrew348
      @andrew348 7 місяців тому +6

      They are always sliding away during the turn. They're really just surviving the turn in hopes of catching them on a straightaway

    • @Abdi-libaax
      @Abdi-libaax 7 місяців тому

      ⁠@@lawrenceusher1902cheetah have better balance than Gazelle and can stop better than any. Most gazelle slip trying to shake the Cheetah.

    • @reggers20
      @reggers20 7 місяців тому

      @@Abdi-libaax ... mmm lol no they don't, cheetahs have to target younger or weaker gazelle's to even stand a chance.

  • @djcrash6044
    @djcrash6044 7 місяців тому

    Wishing the best for you J Gatlin def subbing to this channel!! 💯💯

  • @user78738
    @user78738 7 місяців тому

    Great point on being able to stop and start as a great skill set in football. I'm a Bears fan and so many football fans think Devin Hester was the fastest person in the team or the league when he wasn't, it was his ability to maintain near full speed while making cuts/jukes that set him apart. His teammate Johnny Knox was actually faster in a straight line. .....Barry Sanders is another football legend that could go full speed and stop on a dime and go back to full speed

  • @cliffordhill2365
    @cliffordhill2365 7 місяців тому +11

    Justin is certainly qualified to speak on this subject. He was able to run a sub 10 second 100 meters up until around age 38?

  • @grimreality451
    @grimreality451 7 місяців тому +12

    Perhaps a player like like Xavier Worthy who recently ran a 4.21 40-yard dash at the 2024 NFL Combine and wasn't wearing elite track spikes could possibly run at world class level speed if he gave up football and focused exclusively on track.

    • @devoncooperstudios6410
      @devoncooperstudios6410 7 місяців тому +3

      Perhaps but keep in mind he would have to maintain top speed longer for 100 200 meters. I played pro football, the 40 measures quickness rather than speed. Football players need it but track requires speed and he may be one of the few that would be successful in track

    • @TheDreamBlog
      @TheDreamBlog 7 місяців тому +1

      Worthy manipulated that 4.21. His body was moving and gaining momentum before his feet. The 40 is measured when the feet move first past the sensor. It would be a false start in track.Not denying he's fast af but if all the players at the combine used his "cheat code" there would be a lot more 4.2's. I give him all the credit for outsmarting the sytem. A lot more players will start using that technique, then the NFL will start regulating it.

    • @grimreality451
      @grimreality451 7 місяців тому +3

      @@devoncooperstudios6410 In addition to Xavier having to maintain his top speed for a longer duration like you mentioned, he'll need to cut down his 40-yard time to around 4.1, the time which Christian Coleman was clocked at when he ran track for the University of Tennessee. One advantage Xavier has over most NFL players is his slim build. Another NFL receiver DK Metcalf ran against some elite sprinters and did pretty good but because he weighs around 230 pounds this definitely slowed him down and he finished last. So NFL players who decided to compete at the world class level would definitely have to slim down their upper body to have a chance.

    • @devoncooperstudios6410
      @devoncooperstudios6410 7 місяців тому

      @@grimreality451 exactly

    • @jefffawcett
      @jefffawcett 7 місяців тому +1

      @@TheDreamBlog YES! anyone who thinks he’s actually the fastest 40 runner is out of their mind. And you can go on UA-cam and watch all of his highlights and every touchdown he’s ever scored and he does not have elite pull away speed. He gets caught from behind by DBs more than once. so yes he’s fast but he’s not nearly as fast as that time implies.

  • @tayeridge
    @tayeridge 7 місяців тому

    This was a great explanation by both of them 💯💯💯💯

  • @AAblade7
    @AAblade7 7 місяців тому

    Honestly wonder what would have happened if Calvin Johnson had run track. The man was 6’ 5”, 240 lbs, crappy starting technique, and still ran a casual 4.35 40. Imagine him with proper technique and 60 lbs lighter. The races between him and Bolt might have been epic.

  • @LeeePowers
    @LeeePowers 7 місяців тому

    I got into Rugby by way of former sprinter Rugby 7s Winger Carlin Isles trying out for the Detroit Lions.
    He claimed at the time he could do4.2 all day when he impressed with his speed.

  • @letsssgooo4618
    @letsssgooo4618 7 місяців тому +1

    First guy hits it on the head. NFL is more about start and stop, agility and acceleration.
    Also right about there’s great football players who also run track then you get those track guys who try to play football. Big difference.

    • @zaynes5094
      @zaynes5094 7 місяців тому

      @letsssgooo4618 But I always think that those straight up 200 and 100 meter sprinters who also did football, either in HS or college, have the best chance of making an NFL team roster because of their speed. Yes track and football speed is different, more similar to rugby speed and endurance, but a lot of top level sprinters could make really good punt returners and kickoff special teamers because of their speed.
      I knew guys in HS who hated track but did it because it kept them in shape and actually helped them work on their speed.

  • @jeffreybaker4399
    @jeffreybaker4399 7 місяців тому

    Well said, particularly the cheetah analogy. Always said the reason Barry Sanders was so great was his ability to stop and start. Fast, yes, but that isn't why tacklers whiffed on him.

  • @clarencegeter6780
    @clarencegeter6780 6 місяців тому

    Great breakdown! Thx!

  • @WE_ARE_LIGHT
    @WE_ARE_LIGHT 7 місяців тому +3

    Most of the top speed professional Football players were the fastest players in their middle school and some in high-school. But over time not focusing solely on training for speed they lose some track speed. professional sprinters got their speed from training day in day out. But I guarantee you they was getting beat in Highschool and some in college by athletes who were dedicated to Football. Look at how many college football players were state 100meter champions in high school. I know Olympians who was getting beat by players in Highschool they just chose Football.

  • @rickylafleur1446
    @rickylafleur1446 7 місяців тому

    Tyreke Hill spoke about getting smoked in a foot race by "a dude that looks like Drake". That guy was Andre De Grasse, Canadian olympic sprinter. Tyreke himself said it wasn't even close.

  • @fredhall5038
    @fredhall5038 6 місяців тому

    I wonder. I am not an athlete and never was, although I played recreationally at several sports. But when I Observe Mr. Bolt run I notice two things. One, he seems to power into top speed at forty yards then can maintain it through sheer will. Two, he is actually slowing down with ten or so yards to go. Football players would be huffing and puffing at the end of forty, but Usain is just warming up and beginning to power another degree or two higher. Great athletes all, wonderful insights by the commentators, and huge respect for everyone.

    • @2011hwalker
      @2011hwalker 6 місяців тому +1

      Usain Bolt would beat any football player in the history of time over 40 yards . In his world record 9.58 he was already *leading* the entire field at 40 meters. Watch the race if you dont believe me. This idea he had a * bad* start is completely false. There is no way you can have a 'bad' start and run 9.6 in the 100m.

  • @keithdorsett8346
    @keithdorsett8346 8 місяців тому +4

    Does the size needed for football affect the speed? Going from 180 to 160 with close to the same legs strength?

    • @crabb9966
      @crabb9966 8 місяців тому +3

      Not really imo. Track athletes have less bodyfat but there are a lot of 100 meter athletes that are as heavy as the fastest in NFL. Tyreek Hill is skinnier than some of the fastest men ever

    • @boblansonfig3972
      @boblansonfig3972 8 місяців тому +12

      @@crabb9966no he not bro lol Tyreek is 195-200lbs . Out of the The top 5 fastest man ever , only 1 of them weigh more than him which is Usain bolt at 205 and that’s skinny for him because he’s 6’5. I ran track and football , size needed for football definitely affects speed bruh lol you cut down for track and you put on more mass for football to absorb hits without injury . For example DK Metcalf ran a 10.3, professional track runners and DK himself even said he could run a faster time if he trained and cut weight , but that’s too much considering he needs to stay ready for football shape . If you look at the top track runners to ever run , none of them are big for their height . They’re a very well proportioned and highly toned. For example yohan Blake looks jacked but he’s only 176 lbs lol appearance can be deceiving to actual weight .

    • @crabb9966
      @crabb9966 8 місяців тому

      @@boblansonfig3972 interesting, let's break this down. You can't trust weights on google. If we trust google then Maurice Greene is the same weight as Tyreek Hill but shorter than Tyreek Hill, Greene had the world record. Dwain Chambers was the same weight as Hill if we trust google. Walter Dix was shorter than Tyreek Hill but heavier if we trust google. World record holder Donovan Bailey was 12 pounds heavier, 2 inches taller than Hill if we trust google.

    • @crabb9966
      @crabb9966 8 місяців тому

      @@boblansonfig3972 I would say we can't trust Google. But if we do. Walter Dix is shorter and heavier than Hill. Even world record holders like Donovan Bailey and Maurice Greene are the same size.

    • @taylorferguson8883
      @taylorferguson8883 8 місяців тому +1

      Depends on your body type honestly.. That could be body fat or water weight your loosing.. you will keep your strength if your still lifting in the gym.. you will know that answer when you start strength and speed training.

  • @waynzignordics
    @waynzignordics 7 місяців тому +4

    Another thing football players need is head-stabilization. Randy Moss could be in full-stride, but his head never bobbled, allowing him to see the football clearly. But to piggyback on your analogy, sounds like track athletes need long, strong tails like cheetahs in order to turn on a dime. Science can fix that. :D

    • @aokorodu
      @aokorodu 7 місяців тому +2

      Track and Field athletes also have head stabilization, you never see an elite sprinter with a lot of movement in his upper body, that’s wasted energy and slows you down.

  • @certifiedchaos4643
    @certifiedchaos4643 8 місяців тому +9

    Football players are like fast street cars( mustang hellcat Camaro)
    Track athletes are like high performance race cars

    • @TheGreatness-gg1jx
      @TheGreatness-gg1jx 8 місяців тому +17

      Actually you got it kinda backwards. Football speed and agility is more like Formula 1. Track speed is like professional Drag racers, straight line.

    • @certifiedchaos4643
      @certifiedchaos4643 8 місяців тому +2

      @@TheGreatness-gg1jx street cars aren’t anywhere near as fast as actual high performance race car

    • @5starathlete804
      @5starathlete804 8 місяців тому

      @@certifiedchaos4643I was an about to say. The formula 1 example does not really apply since they supa fast and supa agile

    • @certifiedchaos4643
      @certifiedchaos4643 8 місяців тому +1

      @@5starathlete804 agility isn’t a track athletes problem it getting hit

  • @jasonsutherland9015
    @jasonsutherland9015 7 місяців тому +1

    I ran track I was really fast the only thing I had problems with my knees. From 8th grade to my senior year of highschool. Come state meet time I use to lose in the semis or the finals to guys who ran track. I use to go to my coach he said no way those are faster than you. You just need it more weight training cause the injuries I had to my knees

  • @tentoetimo9578
    @tentoetimo9578 7 місяців тому +1

    Hitting makes track stars outta football players.
    Its a mentality required to okay football.

  • @justinkuemmerle2061
    @justinkuemmerle2061 7 місяців тому

    4.0, 40 yard dash is insane. If he can catch, he could take the top off of any defence.

  • @christopherbrown9279
    @christopherbrown9279 7 місяців тому +3

    Some football athletes have on field speed which is faster than track athletes period. Like Daryl green or Deion Sanders. Deion was fast on the track but faster on the field in play.

    • @timmiller5913
      @timmiller5913 7 місяців тому +1

      Bolt was clocked at 27.33 mph…no one has ever ran that fast on a football field

    • @timmiller5913
      @timmiller5913 7 місяців тому

      Period

  • @anthonyfernandes9545
    @anthonyfernandes9545 7 місяців тому

    Great points. Muscle mass and hips are different. Also coordination is needed more in football

  • @jamaulwhyte
    @jamaulwhyte 7 місяців тому +1

    People in these comments are hilarious. Gatline perfectly describes what and why there are differences between track sprinters and American football. Also those saying he did not run sub 4.0. People are comparing them both like Coleman is leagues ahead of Gatlin. He is not. There's a 14-year age gap and when was Justin meant to have clocked this time? He was banned twice for performance enhancements

  • @TheAlexbower
    @TheAlexbower 7 місяців тому

    Football takes a certain mentality to play well. You even see it with some college kids coming to the NFL they are elite prospects, they get roughed up in the league and the lose that confidence and killer edge and never get it back.

  • @xskalibur
    @xskalibur 7 місяців тому

    Great breakdown!

  • @FantasySportsZen
    @FantasySportsZen 7 місяців тому

    Great discussion. Thanks.

  • @dennisrobinson8008
    @dennisrobinson8008 8 місяців тому +2

    The cheetah vs gazelle by Gatlin is spot on. The "cheetah" ( track star ) runs with more elevation off of the ground and a higher center of gravity, thus stopping, making cuts and turns will be slower.. The gazelle (football player ) runs lower to the ground, lower center of gravity. They are good at really short bursts of acceleration but once top end speed comes into the picture the track stars will win. This lower center of gravity can put more force in the ground for cuts, turns, spins, stop/starts, etc....

  • @nathanlawson313
    @nathanlawson313 7 місяців тому +1

    100m:
    9.80 - Track, will get you a top 5 finish in World's any year
    9.95 - Track, will get you a top 10 finish in World's any year
    9.95 - NFL, Fastest ever by a player, in 1968 (some nobody)
    10.0 - 10.4 - NFL, top 10 fastest players of all time...
    Darrell Green, Herschel, Deion, etc
    Fastest active players:
    10.15 - Raheem Mostert on Dolphins
    10.19 - Tyreek Hill on Dolphins
    Basically the fastest player in the NFL could make it to the Olympics but would probably finish last.

    • @richardmorris6365
      @richardmorris6365 4 місяці тому +2

      1968 was BobHayes,gold medal in 64.

    • @sydboski
      @sydboski Місяць тому

      Sorry bro but your information is a little off. 9.95-10.09 is top 10 in NFL history. Green yes, Herschel and Deion? No.
      Fastest active players
      Anthony Schwartz 10.09
      Tony Brown 10.12
      Devon Achane 10.14
      Hill 10.19
      Mostert's best is 10.22.

  • @yappers2011
    @yappers2011 7 місяців тому

    Quick is more important that fast. Short space speed and change of direction is where it's at in nfl. Otherwise you are just running 7s,8s and 9s and on the field rarely.

  • @pakONEoh
    @pakONEoh 7 місяців тому +14

    I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but if the question is for Justin Gatlin, why is he taking up so much time answering it potentially taking away Gatlin's angles for responding. It's a good thing Gatlin knows a lot about the body and training.

    • @ehunt
      @ehunt 7 місяців тому +2

      Exactly he should have waited because the question was for justin the coach should have added AFTERWARDS

    • @JWFitness1
      @JWFitness1 7 місяців тому

      Maybe this isn't the full video. Or it's just click bait. Who knows. 🤷🏿‍♂️

    • @Yyyyyyy44
      @Yyyyyyy44 7 місяців тому

      Coach knows more about the subject

  • @ENikolaev
    @ENikolaev 7 місяців тому +1

    I love how he says obtuse angles😭 wish more football players cared about physics, I was strong asl and used true leverage to my advantage to be all state my senior year, I was not that tall and I was a nose guard🤣 6’0 265 but could run sub 5 and sub 2.1 10yd split

  • @benf1111
    @benf1111 7 місяців тому

    Can't wait to see what Devon Achane does this year.

  • @terrondewar429
    @terrondewar429 6 місяців тому

    @Justin should vacation in Jamaica.
    I’m not sure he himself understand how big of a superstar he is and the love he would receive from a a real Track and Field Nation, if he appeared as a guest, rather than a competitor.
    He should come to champs so that we can properly so that we can properly acknowledge him

  • @xote316
    @xote316 7 місяців тому +1

    I really like this comparison

  • @CYoung561
    @CYoung561 7 місяців тому

    You can run a 3.9 in the 40… if you can’t catch the ball, have lateral movement, start/stop speed AND take a hit, then it doesn’t matter.

  • @antcantcook960
    @antcantcook960 7 місяців тому

    straight lines against air vs routes against a db. we needed a video about this?

  • @jf8138
    @jf8138 7 місяців тому +3

    Only a fool would believe football players belong on the track, against track and field athletes. It isn't even remotely close.

  • @busyrand
    @busyrand 7 місяців тому

    Track athletes treat their bodies completely opposite of Football Players do... We definitely respect Track athletes cuz many of us also ran track... Much respect... The crazy thing is when guys think they can transition into Football... It's a specialty sport... It's far more brutal and callous than you think...

  • @TheChris403
    @TheChris403 7 місяців тому

    Great conversation guys!

  • @droliver
    @droliver 7 місяців тому

    I dont buy into the track and football speed is different as theres too many crossover examples
    I think its more to with the body type. Usain Bolt would be an awkward footballer, while world class apronters like Marlon Humphrey or Tony Brown (both hurdlers) are excellent quick twitch DB's

  • @crystalwright7090
    @crystalwright7090 6 місяців тому

    Love the gazelle vs cheetah analogy.

  • @stormGod9999
    @stormGod9999 8 місяців тому +3

    all justin gotta do to convert his speed and be able to do all those cutting, deaccelerating and accerlarting and stopping on a dime is perform at 75% speed and those cuts will transition right over to football literally overnight. doing all the track drills high knees and butt kicker actually already translate a lot of the short speeed part of the game of footbal. form there the only other aspect tho to consider outside of the physical aspect and the skill aspect is running with 10-12 lbs of armor that also change the dynamics of your speed. but shit,, 4.0 raw speed will translate to ANY sport given you harness the other skills to it.

    • @elitemidrange
      @elitemidrange 7 місяців тому +7

      It’s not that simple. I have seen a lot of burners that simply don’t have agility, they aren’t good moving side to side. Some people can’t make that transition.

    • @pound6599
      @pound6599 7 місяців тому +1

      Not true. Speed helps in football, but that not mean a track star could make it in the football, especially in college and the pros.

  • @korethoe262
    @korethoe262 7 місяців тому +1

    some track athletes play football and some football players run track. injuries playing football, a hurt gazelle is a goner. can't really label an entire group. case by case.

  • @jboogie45213
    @jboogie45213 5 місяців тому

    It took 2 minutes before dude let Justin answer 🤣

  • @AbcDef-yq5kr
    @AbcDef-yq5kr 7 місяців тому +2

    Draymond's long lost grandpa

  • @dontaetrowell5011
    @dontaetrowell5011 8 місяців тому +3

    Like Justin said, you have to have a little more muscle & weight to withstand the punishment of football. Plus you can’t just focus on speed & phases, you have to hone the skills for your position too. I didn’t play football my junior year, so my I didn’t train for it. I pretty much stayed on my track regime (lifting, training & diet), that was the quickest I’ve ever been. Even though I’m 5’8, I’ve always been a top end guy. I was faster my senior year but on a side by side, it was like a shot out of a canon my junior year.

  • @ericanderson7059
    @ericanderson7059 7 місяців тому +1

    No shade to him but Renaldo Nehemiah couldn't catch a cold .

    • @timmiller5913
      @timmiller5913 7 місяців тому

      He had one fewer career receptions than Gault had touchdowns. No comparison regarding football careers

  • @OfficialTLG
    @OfficialTLG 4 місяці тому

    What if we played both?

  • @naturesown1807
    @naturesown1807 7 місяців тому

    In car terms, Supercharger vs Turbo
    Or Turbo vs Twin turbo

  • @Meauxbley
    @Meauxbley 7 місяців тому

    Both men hit it. They made all the great points but I don’t think they expanded enough on the pure weight.
    People don’t realize how small the fastest men in the world are. Usain was 6’5” essentially and wasn’t even 200 lbs. Xavier worthy was the fastest 40 meter runner… partially because he’s the thinnest player in the combine.

  • @TheChrisHarper
    @TheChrisHarper 5 місяців тому

    Thank you for the honesty. Most track guys are oblivious to this. They say I’m fast I’ll just go run by everybody. Great example by Justin too
    We train totally different in football. I think an elite athlete in either could do play the other physically, but would have to totally immerse themselves in it for awhile to be ready.
    Then there’s the physicality and contact in football too

  • @sigungajoshua6149
    @sigungajoshua6149 7 місяців тому +1

    "Cheetah Vs Gazelle"

  • @justintorres5325
    @justintorres5325 8 місяців тому +3

    There have been alot og elite track athletes that clock sub or about 3.8 40 on the track so its possible he ran a 4 flat or turf which is wild

    • @Messup7654
      @Messup7654 7 місяців тому +2

      No their hasn’t because Usain Bolt would run a calculated 4.07 theirs maybe 3 people on the planet that could run a 3.9 but a 3.8 is physically impossible the same way running a 9.3 Is physically impossible

    • @justintorres5325
      @justintorres5325 7 місяців тому

      @Messup7654 dude do u even know track lmao do the math and there is even videos to prove this smh🤣🤣🤣 and Usain bolt ran qay faster then sub 4 40 in his prime 😂

    • @Messup7654
      @Messup7654 7 місяців тому +3

      @@justintorres5325 yes I know track and I also know facts bolt has never got on turf or grass and ran a 40 with cleats on and no block in 3.9 seconds he literally ran a 4.07 in his 9.58 run so if he goes on a worse surface with no blocks and worse footwear he’s not running a sub 40 Christian Coleman might not even run a sub 4

    • @justintorres5325
      @justintorres5325 7 місяців тому +2

      @Messup7654 why do u keep talking about Usain bolt yes he has the record but he was one of the worse starters in history ,my main point is that there are alot of track guys that clock 3.6,3.7,3.8 for the 40 on a track, so breaking the NFL 40 would be a breeze ,also top guys in combine wear track shoes ,on turf so a sub 4 or 4 flat on turf is really possible

    • @marshallsvideo
      @marshallsvideo 7 місяців тому +3

      @@justintorres5325name one person that clocked a sub 4.0 in the 40

  • @friedbraincells3196
    @friedbraincells3196 6 місяців тому +1

    Don't forget all the steroids that go into being at at elite level

  • @cordelegeorgia7985
    @cordelegeorgia7985 7 місяців тому +1

    Multiple football players running sub 10 over 200lbs…case closed 😂

  • @mm13x17
    @mm13x17 7 місяців тому

    Good conversation 👌

  • @ryu-ken
    @ryu-ken 7 місяців тому

    Nfl is more about change of direction. Track is pure straight line speed

  • @MeIn321
    @MeIn321 7 місяців тому +2

    Tony Dorset was the greatest at stopping and starting.

    • @DavidJones-vv3jm
      @DavidJones-vv3jm 7 місяців тому +5

      Dorset was a stud, no doubt, but I think Barry Sanders has the edge on that skill.

  • @kingmoz
    @kingmoz 7 місяців тому

    Didn’t gatlin run a 4.0 40 yard dash

  • @namesake7139
    @namesake7139 8 місяців тому +3

    All sprinters have to do is stop trying to turn every play into a 100m sprint. Run with some control. Know your assignment and execute that. There are so many sprinters that play football. They might not all the world class but there are a lot of former track runners in the NFL.

    • @markanderson5226
      @markanderson5226 7 місяців тому +2

      Fast people can play any sport they choose. The difference is training to become elite at the sport they choose. If the fastest NFL players showed up for the U.S. Track and field Championships, they would place last in every event, because they haven’t trained for it.
      If they had spent 10 years training for track instead of football, some of them might be closer to the top.

    • @zaynes5094
      @zaynes5094 7 місяців тому

      @@markanderson5226 That's true, Devon Allen was a Olympic-level hurdler but did football and track and field at the University of Oregon because he told the coach he had done 110 hurdles in High School for working on his speed on football, since he wasn't that fast back then, and felt like it would help him get even faster for football. Now he's signed with Philly and is going to be playing for them on a 3-year deal which was originally signed in 2022 but they waived him when he was going to be competing in the Olympics and World championships, but now that he's coming back to football, I want to see how much faster he might become for football. 'Cause normally DBs have to be very quick AND fast to keep up with the RBs and WRs.
      In HS, we had guys who did football, basketball, AND track and field and were great at all three of them. Lamar Jackson was a great football player, BUT he also competed in T&F at a competitive level. Same with Tyreek Hill.

  • @evoextremeX
    @evoextremeX 7 місяців тому

    Gatlin
    Nuff respect
    🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡

  • @KKOPPONG
    @KKOPPONG 7 місяців тому +1

    Tyreek wasn’t a footballer that ran track. It was the opposite. He had athletics scholarships 1st. He said that himself on Club Shay Shay.

    • @joelp9486
      @joelp9486 7 місяців тому

      He may have been better at track but he was playing football his whole life. Don't think his football training took a back seat for track.

    • @KKOPPONG
      @KKOPPONG 7 місяців тому

      @@joelp9486 go watch the interview bro…ok maybe not. I doubt anyone has the time to listen for two hours just for my comment. From his own words however he said it was his coach that told him to go take football seriously. He ran track in high school and football was just for fun. He never took it seriously till he got to community college. It’s only then where he realised he was better at football than track.

    • @KKOPPONG
      @KKOPPONG 7 місяців тому

      @@joelp9486 every kid plays multiple sports growing up because that’s just what growing up is. Taking anything seriously however is different from merely “playing it growing up”.

    • @joelp9486
      @joelp9486 7 місяців тому +1

      @KKOPPONG He started playing organized flag football at five years old. At age seven he was playing Pop Warner football with ten year olds. In high school he was the star of the football team.
      He might not have taken football as seriously as he could have but he was not a track athlete first. He spent more of his youth in organized football than organized track. He didn't start running track until his sophomore year in high school.

  • @juffurey
    @juffurey 7 місяців тому

    so which one is Tedd Ginn Jr? lol

  • @ThecrashoutNetwork
    @ThecrashoutNetwork 6 місяців тому

    They’re a lot sprinters going into rugby 🏉.

  • @Jewelsunisouls21musicworld
    @Jewelsunisouls21musicworld 7 місяців тому

    Track athletes in college run 4.2 40’s in their sleep without warming up when warm up they’re running way faster than that in 40 yards
    anything under 4.2 and they don’t make the team in track that’s mind boggling

  • @joeevett9007
    @joeevett9007 7 місяців тому

    Football players with speed have to be able to control that speed. You can't control top speed in any way but to go straight. Same in the jump events. You cant control your body in the jump phases if you are going to fast so it has to be controlled speed.

  • @JYNXTHEUCE
    @JYNXTHEUCE 6 місяців тому

    Ricky Smiley knows his stuff

  • @luisgalarza09
    @luisgalarza09 7 місяців тому +1

    I mean look at Darius Howard bey

  • @Muscleupsanddangles
    @Muscleupsanddangles 7 місяців тому +1

    Willie Gault

  • @bradc7002
    @bradc7002 7 місяців тому +2

    So track is all gas no brakes

  • @aaronday305
    @aaronday305 8 місяців тому +18

    No offence J.Gatlin but that 4 flat 40 was DEFINITELY hand timed lbs😂😂😂.....But that cheetah and gazelle analysist was spot on G.

    • @certifiedchaos4643
      @certifiedchaos4643 8 місяців тому +2

      That was for the nfl the use hand times u also have to factor in he was in his 20s

    • @aaronday305
      @aaronday305 8 місяців тому +4

      @@certifiedchaos4643 Im aware homie, Bo Jackson and Deion Sanders ran 4.1 hand timed 40's, So im not surprised Gat ran 4 flat.......But again we all know hand times ARE NOT AT ALL ACCURATE!!! This isnt shade, its just the the truth.

    • @certifiedchaos4643
      @certifiedchaos4643 8 місяців тому +2

      @@aaronday305 they ran their 40s in the 80 and 90s gat ran his in the 00s they stopped counting hand times

    • @moyosoredada3109
      @moyosoredada3109 8 місяців тому +1

      Justin ran the 100 in less than 10s meaning at top speed he easily runs a 40 yd in less than 4s

    • @joalvarado8506
      @joalvarado8506 8 місяців тому +9

      Christian Coleman holds the official 60m world record which makes him the fastest starter in track and field history. He only managed a 4.12. Anyone claiming anything below a 4.2 would have to be one of the top 60m sprinters in the world. There are probably only 3 people on Earth who could ever run that fast of a 40.