WAY better value than Land Cruiser! (Nissan Patrol V8 2022 review)
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The Nissan Patrol isn’t the newest 4WD, but it has become much more popular in Australia in recent years. First was the boom in 4x4 touring during the pandemic, and now it’s almost impossible to get a Toyota Land Cruiser 300 Series. Nissan are now on track to sell about 7000 Y62 Patrols in Australia this year, which is a huge number for this 5.6-litre petrol / gasoline V8 four-wheel drive.
The Y62 Patrol Ti competes with the 300 Series and Prado, as well as other more car-based, luxury SUVs like the BMW X7, Mercedes GLS and Audi Q7. Reviewed here is the cheaper Nissan Patrol Ti model.
As always, we don’t accept advertising from car manufacturers, and we’re powered by Budget Direct - so this is an independent, honest review of the Nissan Patrol.
Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
1:10 - 2022 changes
3:24 - Boot space
4:04 - Interior
8:20 - Back seats
10:00 - Third row
10:54 - Running costs
11:44 - Driving
17:35 - Verdict
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Would you buy a Patrol, a Land Cruiser, or something else?
Patrol interior is, so, soooo old !! As for the cruiser, would own a GR but pricing is ridiculous !
Something else - NEW FORD EVEREST!
Patrol saving over LC should buy plenty of fuel I would save some cash and get a used one they are starting to drop
Landcruiser - already got one
Patrol over LC for sure . Can’t justify the cost of LC .
Got one of the first Y62 Patrols sold in Oz, still wouldn't consider replacing it with the LC300 toy....... 9.5 years old and still going strong!
For years we all pointed our fingers and laughed at the new Patrol. Then one day everyone woke up and said "man I want this V8 Patrol!"
Pretty much.
Think the price differance between the overpriced landcruiser was the wake up call
V8 should run forever and you won't have injector fuel pump or DPF issues like a diesel
Direct injection Petrols have high pressure pumps and sophisticated injectors too. They are a good engine but still plenty of expensive bits to go wrong.
@@peterj5751 diesel injector pumps and fuel systems cost tens of thousands when they play up, add 2 turbos and its even worse
@@darcykeddell4930 fukin fuel prices drivin manufacturers to torcher drive trains makin them work harder and harder for less fuel
Additives are the key. Cost effective maintenance make the best ones.
@@darcykeddell4930 no doubt you are correct about the huge cost of replacing pump and injectors on the Landcruiser, it is truly scary. But the direct injection petrol used in the Patrol is using the same basic technology and therefore I suspect has similarly expensive pump and injectors. The turbos no doubt add to cost for the Landcruiser, as do the DPFs. But then you have to factor in the extra fuel in the Patrol, all of it at least 95 ron. Don’t get me wrong, the Patrol is a very good car and much better value than the new Landcruiser, but I wouldn’t assume that the Patrol has a cheap and simple fuel system.
Traded in our 200 series cruiser in on a new 22 y62 .. now done 4k in it and absolutely loving it!!
Fully independent suspension is what makes me prefer this to the Land Cruiser by a long way
I’m on my second y62. A brilliant highway car that meets all my needs. Pop on a cat-back exhaust and you will never go back.
just bought one.. love the engine, the ride and the poise.. there is a charm to driving them... you hit the nail on the head there. As for the infotainment, I have ordered the AES 12.3" dash (as per Armada) with HD360 degree cameras.. only thing needed to bring it to the modern world.
Lived in Middle East for 4 years this was my daily driver it’s a great car
As a second family car (need a fuel efficient or even an EV as daily these day and age), i wouldn't mind the dated interior. This thing has a reliable and powerful/soulful V8, solidly built, traditional 4X4, commending seating position, spacious interior and comfy seats for the family... would love to have one personally
After driving a Prado for 10 years (and it was a fantastic vehicle) we took delivery of our Y62 in March. I love it. It's brilliant. The driving experience really has to be experienced. To those sitting on the fence about the Patrol, just drive one and then let us know what colour you ordered 😉 It really is that good.
after 4 cruisers they are way overpriced, Test drove a Patrol and ordered white!!
@@nikiaero7977 I reckon they’re overrated too
Two words to defend the toyota. Resale value
@@josephstalone6911 yup Toyota's are over price and due for another recalls. Sold mine.
@@jackman2865 I’d never go modern Toyota their new cars have more problems than Kia’s cars now
Just note - the servicing interval is inaccurate in this review.
Nissan has changed it now to every 12 months or 10,000kms. That applies now to all Y62, from series 1 onwards.
I know a lot of people don't like the interior and that's fair enough. I have a 2021Ti-L. So far I have done an aftermarket Android Auto /Carplay install whilst retaining factory features. Couple of other simple mods include a Carobotor digital Dash available here in Australia from EC off-road and also a LHD style centre dash available from the same. Wood grain can be vinyl wrapped or painted. All this can be done in less than the cost of the LC300. Plenty of upgrades available. I just wish there was enough bolstering in the front seats from factory, I obviously thrash it around the corners. And the steering wheel feels skinny. Both obviously can be resolved by visiting an upholsterer. Again all less than the cost of LC300. So far I am very happy with MY62. And the engine sounds great after centre muffler upgrade from Harrops. Also getting a set of 20 inch wheels from States for highway driving and keeping the 18inch wheels for when I take the family to the beach. Even with all the mods available it still works out cheaper than the cost of a LC300.
Nice! I guess a supercharger is next?
@@nathanielbrice8725 hehe, just waiting for the warranty to run out first. Not that it means much but I will play by the rules with that one.
You pay $100k for a car and you need to pay more for aftermarket stuffs that should be included? Weird 😅
@@nhaiminh it's my money and I can do whatever I want with it. It should have but it didn't, so I have aftermarket options and still saved money. Most people stick after market stuff on their cars, does that mean it should have come from factory that way? You're not driving it I am. I didn't pay some ridiculous $140k, the aftermarket options, including the fuel I will spend, will come no where near the extra 40k, for something that size for 10 years at least, even with current fuel prices.
I absolutely love Gasoline V8s and this is one hunk of an SUV to aspire to 💯
It would be good if you guys did a review with more emphasis on towing. Even tow something at least 3 tonne to see how it goes.
That's my dream car. It looks gorgeous, very-well proportioned.
90% of peak torque available below 1700 rpm.
Those who own one get better fuel economy over time, and the decision to only include a petrol V8 is so radical, it's awesome.
Fuel prices are high, semiconductor shortages and other logistical issues running rampant, no federal plan to transition to a well structured and supported ev market, LCT, all this is making it really difficult to justify putting so much money into a depreciating asset such as a car. This is such a sad state of affairs. We as buyers are bearing the brunt of this entire cycle. Not the manufacturers, not the retailers, not the elected officials, not the industry bodies. Just us.
If they make a warrior version i really hope they make lighter somehow (remove 3rd row, vinyl floors etc.) because paired with that LMP3 engine it’d be epic.
I would wish to have this patrol in my garage, along side it's earlier brothers G270d, J100, to facilitate my off-road tours
The Y62 is a beast. Love mine and I’m never buying a LC again
Just picked up our ti-l
Test drove other vehicles. But value for money we settled on Nissan ti-l
Carnt wait to do a few small mods
Exhaust first. Hated the interior to start but now don’t care. Petrol vs diesel well to be honest it’s not bad 14l 100
Love the Mighty Nissan Patrol!
So much more seating space than the 300 and more plush suspension.
I’m sold , obsidian black for me TI-L with TI front end 👍🏻
Nissan ran the same engine modified to make 650hp
It will be super reliable probably more so than the new V6 turbo diesels
After reading all the comments I noticed that everyone that actually owns a Y62 loves them (except for the wood grain)
The anti Y62 comments are mainly Toyota fan boys and nearly all of them don’t own a 300 series but wish they could afford one
I suggest you test drive a y62 and then tell me what colour you got😊
I do like the wood trim
*With its on/off-road performance & pricing, Patrol Y62 is worth every penny than the overrrrpriced 200/300 series*
People are still willing to pay 120k for a what's essentially a 1985 75 series with a v8 update. I don't know why people are so hard on the Y62, sure it's getting on but I wouldn't call anyone crazy for picking one over a 200 or 300 series just because its a 10yr old platform. It's still a great performer, on and off road. That's a hell of a lot of touring you can do with the price difference. Nissan built V8s are a good thing.
Thing is, we don't pay full price for cars. We pay monthly installments. So that saving over the land cruiser really doesn't exist. This car still costs more for fuel
@@stardustmusic448 I don't know anybody who does that.
@@AP-ow5vu does what?
@@stardustmusic448 Doesn't buy a car but leases a car or whatever crazy thing you're talking about.
@@AP-ow5vu I never said lease. No one has 120k in their pockets. We pay via monthly installments. What more understanding do u need
Totally agree 👌🏽 it is the best choice, mine is 2014 and after 8 years, I find it very reliable, powerful, comfortable and spacious.. what else I need ! 😊
Looked at it a few times due to the wait list on a LC300, just couldn't bring myself to buy such old tech.
the ones in the Middle East have much better interior (the new one)
Big deal.
Nissan Patrol is Beast
Looks like it’s almost bottoming out on that arched track.
If I had some extra money to throw at it, I'd have definitely purchased one despite not liking the brand, but at the moment I'm fine in my FJ! The price they are asking for LC is ridiculous and if it stays the same, soon they have to leave Australian market too.
Btw, the you were on point with the dash design. ALSO, you might want to check the prices you show for the insurance from Budget Direct. There's no way those are correct even with garaging the car and the best driving history and suburb.
He's not wrong. I have a one--month old Y62 Ti and I'm insured with Budget Direct! I paid pretty much that same price, maybe less and I'm in Sydney and my car is not parked in a Garage. I have never lost my licence but have lost points (who hasn't).
The review was not a detailed one for sure, no real explanation of how HBMC truly works on and off road nor paying any particular attention the drivetrain. The VK56VD Direct Petrol Injected engine in this vehicle is a true gem and is able to get such great Torque due to its rather elaborate Variable Valve Timing on all valves aided by a Valve Lift system. The engine rev's to the redline without hesitation and so smoothly and effortlessly.
Come on Nissan Australia, treat your flagship with respect, give it 2022 apple car play/andoid auto and ditch the walnut trim
The Ti Patrol has been and remains, the best value 4wd wagon in Australia for the last 10 years. Nothing else comes close. The equivalent spec VX cruiser is now $40k more expensive, which is just crazy. The Patrol still has better performance on and off road, more interior space and better handling. The cruiser still has an old tech solid rear axle for god's sake and I pity any adult male that's forced to sit in the cramped middle row. Do yourself a favour and test drive both back to back, then tell us what colour Patrol you ordered!
Nah the land cruiser is way more modern and luxurious. And better off road. Just shorter
A black one😊
Im sticking with my Pajero. A lift, good 32s, front bar/winch, rear diff lock and some plates...gets me everywhere I want to go and the 3.2 returns around 11l per 100. 7 years old and hasnt missed a beat.
What surprises me is considering the Y62 Patrol is still built in Japan (a RHD country), that Nissan decided not to update the interior of the RHD Y62. Is it because we (Australia) are the only RHD market that's still buying the Y62? Or does Nissan think Australian's don't deserve modern technology? Which ever it is, it's a missed opportunity for Nissan to really stick it to Toyota by giving the Y62 a 21st Century interior. Then buyers might actually desire to really buy it, rather than what some buy it for, simply an alternative to the 300 series since they can't get one quick enough.
Correct, they sell tens of thousands of these vehicles in left drive markets...mainly Middle east and North America. There are other RHD markets....South Africa comes to mind but the quantities are lower
The car is too thirsty here in SA. and Nissan is bad at marketing this car. If they did it would sell in more numbers. Much more
It's feel great.
Why are they not sold in Ireland 🇮🇪 any more ? Drove they in the Irish army excellent bit of kit ..
I looked really hard at the patrol almost bought one until I looked at the Lexus LX600 unfortunately it’s a 15 month wait.
Scary efficiency considering the price of fuel these days
You need to be realistic about that a beast like this will cost at the bowser. If you were comparing it to the cost of a new 300 Series - it might well work out. But don’t get in trouble with the week to week running costs.
15l/100 sitting on 110km/h. 10l per hundred less than my old 4.8 patrol
And that's with 35s on the y62
@@DarrenBoxhall It's pretty good really for what it is. My old 4.5L patrol got 20L/100km sitting on 100 and it was gutless. My hilux now only gets 11L/100km but the injectors cost a fortune to replace every 5 years so how much are you really saving?
@@AP-ow5vu seems pretty shit when my 2017 Pajero with a much bigger engine and heavier then the Hilux is less then 9ltrs on the highway. I’ve taken it stock through the Simpson both ways, Fraser 3 times, Perth to brissy through the centre twice there and back and haven’t had a single out of pocket cost besides insurance and standard servicing.
@@ablet85 That's with aggressive all terrains on the hilux. With 245 road tyres sitting on 100km it might get 9.5-10L/100km but the y62 comes out with I think 285's that look like a mild all terrain or atleast that's what my old bosses one came with and he didn't request them that's just what they come with.
Waiting time is too long . I have waited for 7 months, still no allocation
CD player in 2022? Do they give cds with the car to listen to
300 series has a cd player
With fuel costs of diesel being 50c/litre higher than petrol,I would consider the Patrol.
I can't believe that there sell these in Aus with this old trim level, in the Middle East, there has been 2 interior facelifts aready but it appears that Nissan is really lost in Aus market and betting to be as cheap as possible than the LC...
There are legitimate reasons people forgotten this car which you stated them in your video. Its like a 90s car in 2022
Plus standard unleaded at present is $1.59 over diesel at around $2.15….it will change ofcourse but at over 50c a litre it’s makes it cheaper to run (for now)
Bargain buying I feel
Remember when these first came out no one wanted them and you could pick up a TI for 60k
Dirt cheap then.
You could also buy a 200 Sahara for 100k and drive it straight out the show room, how times have changed
@@shaneleigh9860 yes true
They actually started at 90k couldn’t sell them so dropped the price by 30k😳
This car is what a lot of us approaching grey nomad life are looking at to tow our caravan. Yet once again another review with no mention of how this compares to a landcruiser. Seriously at least 30% of the market are grey nomads. But you talk about technology and how sporty it is and woodgrain panels etc. How about including the older generation who are interested in how it tows.
The 5.6 litre V8 in the Patrol is fuel efficient compared to the recently superseeded 5.7 litre V8 in the Lexus LX570. Kudos to Nissan for a good traditional petrol motor. It may cost more to fuel but no turbos to go wrong, or fancy hybrid systems and stop start engine technology where the maintenance and upkeep could wipe out the fuel savings over the lifetime of a vehicle.
Yep I agree. People think saving 3 litres per hundred is the be all and end all but don't realise the long term maintenance costs of diesels and hybrids.
@@AP-ow5vu Not only that, depending on how they drive they might not be saving as much fuel as they think in the real world. Check out DMW's tow test between a Diesel 200 series and the Y62.
Término medio, bien!!
Long last the V8s, the end of an era is coming soon esp. in ACT 2035 :(
Very true. Mind you, you can still buy and register a new one until then, they’re not going to ban them from the roads at least. Unless they change their mind.
Resist and buy what YOU want.
@@trojanhman8136 I don't believe it CAN happen.
@@jamesdanton9033 at 18% of transport industry contribution towards Australias climate change, ACT is obviously targeting the small players here
@@trojanhman8136 I agree. It's actually impossible. Our leaders are insane. Now what?
Don't listen to this guy. Get a Ti-l. If your going off-road the front bumper will be replaced with a bar anyway.
If you can afford it, definitely go the Ti-l
I'm sick of Nissan's excuses over the lack of the new interior in the Amarda.
Mate at the start you said the patrol was a v6
Nothing can and will replace the LAND CRUISER
No idea why there are many good comments for this car. $100k car with old interior design, old natural aspirated V8 and probably old gear box. Crazy!
Patrol is the beast.
For such an old tech car… it should be cheaper… back when they were around $60000…. At least … though I’d still go Landcruiser
Now Corolla is selling for little over $40000 . 😂
The 4WD equivalent of a 15 year old iPhone. Probably has a VHS player for entertainment 📼
Qhen i saw those glasses i knew he takes his coconut water everywhere.
Everyone wants the fridge and arse chillers
Das Beasten. I just bought my 2018 Ti-L for $65,000 with only 55,000 KM. Bargain! And almost half the price of a similar LandCruiser.
These would of sold more if they had a diesel option
Good luck finding one in WA for under $95k new driveaway..
Best value 4wd on the market. Sadly a horrible twenty year old interior but an awesome car. Change the head unit, you've got a comfortable, capable beast... And it's a V8!
It's actually about 10 years old. But seriously the head-unit is the determining factor making this vehicle "a comfortable, capable beast" ? You need to take a good hard look at yourself
Until resale
Resale value maybe a problem
I drive patrol in the Philippines .I drive in flood in Manila the water inside the already on the seat .I drive 1 hr but the patrol bring me home
It's that it's still a V8 and like half the price of a 300 series and no wait....
70 series has 4 year wait...
My Nissan Y62 2014 V8 320 HP almost same as 2022 🙂
Not many changes in that time!
"C'mon..... " - should be Nissans new catch cry.....
Update the interior and give it a powerful diesel. In my country you'll see Land Cruisers often but the Patrol is a rare sight mainly because of these two reasons. No one wants a thirsty petrol V8.
Wait till Govt introduce enviro tax on anything larger than 2litres
Great engine, but a hard pass for the rest.
Dont forget it also has some weak ass axles and can leave you stranded.
Better than usual because he gave information on the engine and transmission. I have seen videos, by others that talk about irrelevant things like chrome and cup holders and dont even mention the engine and transmission. This vehicle would be so much better with a diesel.
The old screen 📺 inside ??
The US Model is better
Yeah, the left hand drive interior is 100x better
Kind of.
Was going to buy one, then was told 18month wait and i said no thanks.
Man these brand cults on all socials is just funny to read. Toyota folks who bought a Toyota keep hammering on about resale and capability and those who got Nissans keep going on about value and comfort etc. Stop upvoting and going to war for brands, those companies will only reward you by forcing you to pay even more money for their products. Look at what Toyota did… charge an arm and a leg for someone’s upvoting..
When I become a millionaire I will buy one of these as a reward
That means I should buy 3😎
Driving on average 30K per year, I would buy one tomorrow if it were not for that rather hideous interior. Such a shame as the 70th year anniversary Patrol model (avail in other markets, but not Australia) looks modern, present day and a rather nice space to be in.
You call that interior hideous? have you seen the 200 / 300 series interiors?
Y62 has much better interior even with the wood grain than landcruisefs
They are dumping the crappy interior on the Australian market as they must have warehouses full
I love the car but that infotainment is just a deal breaker. That's the stuff you interact with everyday so to put up with that for 5 or more years no thanks. The rest is great..
Cv’s on every corner, what a nightmare.
Patrol 2023
WAY more running costs and depreciation. Land Cruise is still king
That interior belongs in the 80s.
We love wood interiors. Just not this kind of wood…
Sure... its old, but obviously you have not aquianted yourself with an actual 80s interior for quite a few years.
So do I , so for me happy 😊 days.
@@zoltrix7779 it’s old but so am I😂
I’m hearing a lot of “it doesn’t have”
What it has: huge petrol engine, great 4WD system, surprisingly good handling, lotta space.
What it doesn't have: plenty of the LC300's mod-cons, fuel efficiency.
Then there's the price difference.
What matters more to you?
Because it’s a Ti not a TiL
Australian government should ban any cars which doesn’t come with latest safety features standard and any mediocre product like this Nissan patrol. World gets latest tech, comforts, infotainment and Australia gets 11 year old interior for almost $100k. Really? It’s taking Australian consumers for granted Nissan ?
Agree the interior should be upgraded, but also nobody is being forced to buy this car
Mate we're been living like that for years, nothing changed Wake up buddy..
The interior is good. You do not need the safety technology. If you dependently rely on this, then do not drive.
It’s 2022 where’s the hybrid and they need to get their reliability sorted before I can look at one
Reliability is fine.
Unfortunately these vehicles are not fuel efficient. I don’t know why Aussies will buy these types of cars, but I understand, as a Aussie that people go camping and 4wding so hopefully newer electric cars can make a good replacement to these older petrol cars
Whilst the fuel economy is shit house, in the long run, you tend to save more against a diesel or come close especially because of the starting price compared to a 200. Yes the diesel is cheaper to run for fuel but they’re more expensive to service, shitty fuel can cost up to $10K for pump and injectors for some diesels and they can happen repeatedly. Was a mechanic for years and servicing/ working on petrols was way more enjoyable and cheaper.
Some modern diesel injectors are $1000 per injector and require very expensive tools to reprogram the computer once they let go.
@@cohenluxford4171 diesel isn't really that cheap at the moment, petrol is though, so in the grand scheme of things, petrol works out slightly cheaper right now when filling up.
You Clearly have no idea about how these vehicles are used in Australia nor the vastness and remoteness of this great land we call home. There is simply NO EV vehicle currently on the market nor in the foreseeable future that can do the job of 4WD vehicles like these. There is simply nowhere to re-charge an BEV.
Better value hey.
Patrol v Landcruiser total cost of ownership
Landcruiser purchase GXL -$108193
Sell in 3 years at 82% lose $19474 with 60,000kms. Fuel use @ 8.9lph @ 2.20 p/l over ownership is $11748
Servicing $2,250
Total cost $33,742
Patrol purchase TI @ 89,602
Sell in 3 years at 78% lose $19712 with 60,000kms. Fuel use @ 14.5lph @ 2.20 p/l over ownership is $19140
Servicing $1,596
Total cost $40,448
Prices from manufacturers website
Resale values from red book
Average combined fuel economy from manufacturers
Service intervals and costs taken from manufacturers website includes capped price servicing.
Diesel and premium 95 is about the same price averaged out at 2.20 per litre
Extend that 3 years to 5 years and take into account the thousands that will be spent replacing injectors on the common rail diesel cruiser and the savings will swing back to the patrol.
Was around an 8 grand job to do it properly using genuine injectors on the 200 series I can't imagine this thing will be any cheaper. Access to the injectors is probably worse and parts more expensive, whereas I know somebody who has owned a y62 since they came out and apart from an early timing chain issue (updated in later models) he hasn't had to replace anything outside of normal servicing.
Edit) Also nobody is getting a 300 series gxl for $110,000 this year. If you want one in 2022 be prepared to pay closer to $140,000 IF you can find one.
VERY GOOD Luke, VERY GOOD.
APPRECIATED.
Thank You.
Thank You Very Much.
@@AP-ow5vu Move to US where the 200 series is only available with gasoline engine and the saving will only stack up further. Just look at what is an equivalent 2017 Nissan Armada worth compared to Land Cruiser....
2006 interior
2012 actually, and loving it!
The LandCruiser is way overpriced and when the car market turns on a downward spiral soon due to high interest rates LandCruiser buyers will be losing a massive amount of money!
Most people who can afford a $100k offroad vehicle, will not be affected. Especially given the LCs rarity and no 300 series coming to US.
It’s pretty much a brand new old vehicle
This and the 70 series have that in common
But its not a LAND CRUISER
So what?
Desperate times call for desperate car purchases, the thought of buying a very expensive 10 year old new car is fairly off putting.
There are many old cars I wish I could buy brand new.
This is the only brand new car I'd have any interest in buying because it's basically a ten year old car. This is probably going to be one of the last petrol v8 cars made.
Why are you so "desperate"
Modern diesels are pretty shitty high risk engines. I'd have one of these any day. Would be good to enjoy one before we are forced to drive boring electric junk.