Trade Proposal: Could the Cubs get a Star for Busch and Amaya?!

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  • @SetupManCubs
    @SetupManCubs  12 днів тому +1

    Watch my breakdown and reaction to the 2 trades on Nov 20: ua-cam.com/users/livet2RcdsQAKu4

  • @rds990
    @rds990 12 днів тому +11

    Busch will be a STAR in his own right. Remember....he was a ROOKIE last year. At every level he was a monster once established. AAA / AA/ A/ Rookie and in college. This year he'll hit between 25 and 30HR's. You can take that to the bank. Trading him would be the dumbest thing the Cubs could do.

    • @NOBlinders
      @NOBlinders 11 днів тому

      You got that exactly right!

  • @JasonO4572
    @JasonO4572 11 днів тому +2

    Not in a million years do the DBacks trade Gabby for these guys

  • @bradysyrek4122
    @bradysyrek4122 12 днів тому +13

    There's no world the Cubs give up Bellinger, Hoerner and 3 of their top 7 prospects for 1 year of Tucker

  • @robhansen6370
    @robhansen6370 12 днів тому +4

    Love, love, love the Hoerner/Wesneski for Dalton Rushing trade!

    • @alexdavila9502
      @alexdavila9502 12 днів тому

      Let's do it

    • @TheLearningCatalystCoach
      @TheLearningCatalystCoach 12 днів тому

      Yep, any day of the week...gets a high value in young catcher/bat while making room for Shaw/Triantos and dumping some salary.

  • @JH-so5kt
    @JH-so5kt 12 днів тому +5

    That Cubs Astros trade proposal would be one of the most lopsided trades in baseball history at the time of the trade, Dealing all of that for one year of Kyle Tucker and a pitching prospect is complete and total insanity.

  • @BarryJowers
    @BarryJowers 12 днів тому +2

    I don't trade Owen Cassie unless the deal really blows me away. He's going to be a star.

  • @nc3659
    @nc3659 11 днів тому +1

    No team gives up two MLB prospect starters on rookie salaries & trades them for a veteran w/ a heavy contract. That makes zero sense.

  • @mr.bohner6819
    @mr.bohner6819 12 днів тому +1

    Nico is more than just a back up SS. He's probably a top 5 fielding SS in the MLB for another team & would definitely top 10 in WAR among SS. Problem is Cubs have the best defensive SS in the MLB on their team in Swanson. & Swansons floor at SS is higher than Nico's

  • @Aetnaboy73
    @Aetnaboy73 11 днів тому

    It's great to dream up some trades, but they're just hopes and dreams. We all know this organization won't do squat.
    Love the show!!

  • @mikemchugh3784
    @mikemchugh3784 12 днів тому +1

    Busch and Amaya will be back for sure. Nico would have been traded this off-season had he not needed surgery. Therefore, I see Nico as a 2025 mid-season trade chip, to be replaced by Shaw.

  • @mr.bohner6819
    @mr.bohner6819 12 днів тому +1

    Well i wasn't sold on Rushing for Nico & Wesneski at first cuz he's a C prospect that isn't a full yime Catcher but man can he hit & control the running game behind the plate. So i wouldn't hate it. But i still prefer an MLB PROVEN player

  • @Barktombo
    @Barktombo 12 днів тому +1

    I wouldnt trade busch but id look for a catching upgrade

  • @franciscosantiago9032
    @franciscosantiago9032 12 днів тому +2

    Bellinger and Paredes to Astros..
    Kyle Tucker and Ullola to Cubs.
    Tucker is a STUD and would immediately make a huge difference.
    By giving Paredes the Astrol fill a 3rd base need as i dont think Bregman os going back to houston. The Cubs can then slot SHAW into 3rd base.

    • @robhansen6370
      @robhansen6370 12 днів тому +2

      Keep 3B open for Cam Smith. Trade Hoerner and slot Shaw in the 2B spot.

    • @franciscosantiago9032
      @franciscosantiago9032 12 днів тому

      @robhansen6370 Shaw can move... Cam Smith wo t be in the MLB lineup in 2026... possibly 2026

    • @kampoc4802
      @kampoc4802 12 днів тому

      @@franciscosantiago9032 Move Shaw where? Not to 3b, that's Smith in 2026 so not moving him for 1 year. Not SS and obviously not OF. That leaves 2B.

    • @franciscosantiago9032
      @franciscosantiago9032 12 днів тому

      @kampoc4802 Shaw can play 2B as well... Nico's days are or could be counted on this team that desperately needs slug.

    • @kampoc4802
      @kampoc4802 11 днів тому

      @@franciscosantiago9032 Right, 2b is the place for Shaw. not moving him as there's nowhere else to move him. yes Nico is a valuable trade piece even though I like him alot.

  • @michaelplowman8674
    @michaelplowman8674 12 днів тому

    An idea would be see how the A's would feeling Ben Brown and Wesneski for Langeliers. A's get 2 young pitchers with 5 years of control each. The combined AFV and surplus slightly favors the A's and tehe Cubs are giving pitching with is always a premium but the Cubs need that upgrade at C.

  • @alexdavila9502
    @alexdavila9502 12 днів тому +1

    No Owen Cassie in that Astro trade

  • @rogerdodger723
    @rogerdodger723 12 днів тому

    This just in, maybe. Bellinger to Mets for rh pitcher and infielder. Prospect # 8 and # 13 respectively.

  • @Teremei
    @Teremei 12 днів тому

    I personally do not want to trade Busch. But you have to think like other teams. Say you have a stud that has 3 years of control. Are you happy with Busch + Amaya? Probably not. You would probably require one more peace of candy. Perhaps a Triantos or Alcantara.

  • @josephhall657
    @josephhall657 12 днів тому

    Dodger one is the best. Opens up a spot for Shaw. But I do not see teams trading for Nico while recovering. But if any team could it would be the dodgers as they have superstar level talent and injury affects them less.
    You can run another one. Stroman for Bellinger. Cubs need a SP Yankees have 1B and OF needs ATM. This one would fall after Soto decides . This one opens up RF for Caissie which makes sense plus allows for a platoon with Alàcantara.

    • @alexdavila9502
      @alexdavila9502 12 днів тому

      I wouldn't want stroman back unless we open up this trade and add Nico and Spencer Jones and someone else.

    • @josephhall657
      @josephhall657 12 днів тому

      @alexdavila9502 I think that is fair. Ideally you want to open up 2B and RF while adding a SP and a C prospect.

    • @alexdavila9502
      @alexdavila9502 12 днів тому

      @@josephhall657 we should've signed D'arnaud

  • @born2run995
    @born2run995 11 днів тому

    if Vlad is available I'd sent Busch, Parades, Caissie and other prospect for Vlad. Put Shaw at 3B, Vlad at 1B, keep Nico at 2b and Belli in RF. lineup is Happ-LF Seiya -DH Belli-RF, Vlad -1B Shaw-3B, Hoerner -2B, Swanson-SS, PCA-CF, Amaya=C

  • @mikeofallon
    @mikeofallon 12 днів тому +1

    Bethancourt > Thaiss. WTF??

  • @teelive8249
    @teelive8249 12 днів тому +2

    Don’t make me unfollow u

  • @franciscosantiago9032
    @franciscosantiago9032 12 днів тому

    As good as a Moreno trade to the Cubs is , the Diamondbacks would be nuts to trade him for Amaya.

  • @johns7539
    @johns7539 12 днів тому

    I’m from SF, and at least teams like giants, Mets, SD, Toronto try to sign A1 players (usually unsuccessful) but the Cubs don’t even try. The Cubs are in the 3rd biggest market and sign 2nd and 3rd tier players and hope the players over perform

    • @SetupManCubs
      @SetupManCubs  12 днів тому

      @@johns7539 yup, it’s not a great plan

  • @bmar1784
    @bmar1784 12 днів тому

    Cannot see AZ trading Gabby

  • @NOBlinders
    @NOBlinders 11 днів тому

    Trading Busch or Cassie for anyone would be like trading a Lou Brock and not getting much
    in return.

  • @plastershak7250
    @plastershak7250 12 днів тому

    Send belli and Amaya and a lower level prospect for moreno

  • @gabel4277
    @gabel4277 11 днів тому

    Why is Amaya still a Cub, is beyond me

  • @RojoCube
    @RojoCube 12 днів тому

    Anthony Santander would be like 900% cheaper than Juan Soto 😂
    That's music to Discount Jed's ears

    • @alexdavila9502
      @alexdavila9502 12 днів тому

      I want Santander. We got to trade belli or seiya or both

    • @RojoCube
      @RojoCube 12 днів тому

      @alexdavila9502 seiya has a full ntc. So he can't be traded without his permission

    • @alexdavila9502
      @alexdavila9502 11 днів тому

      @RojoCube if we can move belli. Then we can put seiya as our DH

    • @RojoCube
      @RojoCube 11 днів тому

      @alexdavila9502 Seiya is likely gonna be the dh from here on out. I think ONKC is gonna be playing RF at some point in 2025 for the cubs. Which is great. He was really a sneaky good pick up in the Yu trade.

  • @yungb2714
    @yungb2714 7 днів тому

    This was very laughable 😂

  • @cambium0
    @cambium0 12 днів тому

    On the D'backs trade, some cursory googling shows they indeed are considered weak at first base. but they wouldn't give up their catcher for our catcher. What if it was Bellinger instead. Cubs shed significant salary, lose offense but hope busch would improve in 2025. Use the additional money to get Max Fried. Still I think we hold on to all of our grade B talent and add Fried and some high leverage bp guy and Kyle H. at catcher to hold us over until Bellesteros (sp?) is ready.

  • @TheRocker27
    @TheRocker27 12 днів тому

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  • @robhansen6370
    @robhansen6370 12 днів тому

    Thanks for looking at my trade idea. I suspected I was being too generous to the Astros, but they aren't going to give up Kyle Tucker for pennies on the dollar. Ullola is the Astros #8 prospect, I find it hard to believe his value is that low. Bellinger is included because he gives HOU a replacement for Tucker and it gets him off the Cubs payroll. Ballesteros goes because the possibility that he turns into a MLB level catcher is not very good. Jefferson Rojas is basically position blocked on the Cubs. If the Cubs sign 1 or 2 FA pitchers or trade for 1, then Assad becomes expendable. So, the new trade is Bellinger, Rojas, Ballesteros and Assad to HOU, and the Cubs get Kyle Tucker and Miguel Ullola. You're going to have to overpay if you want Kyle Tucker. Better?

    • @JH-so5kt
      @JH-so5kt 12 днів тому +2

      I say this respectfully, but that would be one of the most lopsided trades in baseball history (day of).

    • @robhansen6370
      @robhansen6370 12 днів тому

      @@JH-so5kt Yeah, we'd be robbing them blind. Getting a young superstar for an oft-injured fading star, a short, fat catcher who can't play the position, a SS who is position blocked, and an overrated P who can't get past the 4th or 5th inning hardly ever.

    • @JH-so5kt
      @JH-so5kt 12 днів тому +2

      @@robhansen6370 absolute insanity. You do realize Tucker is an expiring contract, right?

    • @robhansen6370
      @robhansen6370 12 днів тому

      @@JH-so5kt There's this new term you might have heard of "Contract Extension."

    • @JH-so5kt
      @JH-so5kt 12 днів тому +2

      @robhansen6370 are you really getting snarky when extensions are getting increasingly rarer for star hitters who are traded. Come on, man.
      MLB trade values isn't the gospel, but you were off at least 50 points . Nothing personal, but it is what is.