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It's for all to see, Spicy Candy now is in the 130-130 club..
It is all combination of parts to build your setup.. This is mine.
I would not be surprised if after a little tune change I could be 135 HP-140TQ TBH
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I dont care about the hp club.
I just want to be in the "I have an Indian Motorcycle Club!"
Someday. Though I did get to demo a factory stock Spicy Candy at Elkhart Indian Motorcycle demo days this year!
@@DrDiff952 I can't wait for you to be in the IMC Club.. but the 2 wheels club is the only one that really matters!
Friendly reminder: It was Victory before it became Indian... 😉
I went with the Lloydz 530 "Street Performance" cams, billet CNC port-matched intake manifold, and Lloydz Sawicki 2:1 mid-length exhaust. Dyno'ed 10hp more but 5ft lbs less torque than your 112ci with IMC Stage 2 cams and Toce 2:1 exhaust. Thing is, your graph shows that your setup is making more torque through the meat of the low and mid-range power band. Love my current setup, but after seeing the graphs side by side, I will definitely be upgrading to the Lloydz big bore kit and 540 "Big Bore" cams when they are made available... hope to see 150hp and 145trq.
That's right you are 140-130!!! Thats no joke of a motor... like I said I have been on the record to Push Lloyd and Branon 150-150 ....LETS GOOOO!!!!
PS 150-145 IS CLOSE!!
👀 Looking forward to seeing the chart on it Fish. Your making good progress on that 112. For reference I have a 114 M8. (boo I know) Off the shelf TB/intake cam & pipe. PV tuned made
135hp @ 6,140
134tq @ 3,750
So you guys are on par with the Harleys. And with the advantage of liquid cooling I’m sure there is more in it. I did just see Star racing George Bryce do a 117 untouched motor sans TB/intake cam pipe n tune do 140/140.
@vernlochtefeld1626 , my graph is on my website.. I put a couple of others on there also.. one being a turbo 114!! Haha you are definitely powerful 114!!
Well worth the wait! Thanks
Thank you
Well said Fred. LOVE that you have gone for consistency and openness in your videos. Credibility is a HUGE factor and you have always been 100% up front, which I respect. Don't forget Australia is open for business, AND your dollar is worth megabucks against our crappy dollar. Makes the trip a must do. at 2,500 rpm what's the noise level like? we have noise police here too believe it or not!
Noise police!!!!!! Sometimes I think you guys got it right but then I hear about your noise police!!
Is that level moving or high idle??
Very different but very cool video when I clicked on it and it had the news on there I thought I clicked on the wrong video!! Would you be perhaps looking at intakes and quite possibly doing some head work on the motor!! You know all in the name of chasing larger horsepower and torque numbers for science!!!
Dude, you nailed it and did it right: before and after dyno numbers from same dyno. I appreciate your full honest videos, hard to find these days. I'm just north of the cities and would love to meet up and ride man! Well, after this long a$$ cold winter.
Hell yes!!! I be ill be having a little community ride May 19th out of the dealership in St Paul!! Mark your calendar!!! More details to come!!
I always appreciate your honesty. With all your connections, can you borrow a challenger with the new Lloyd’s cam and tune on your boy Arks DYNO. I bet everyone would love to see the difference on the same dyno.
I'll see what I can do!! Snow started flying hope we get some warm flashes coming!
What is this snow you speak of? To a Floridian, we can only find snow in Miami. Lol. 😂. Plus we have year round riding.
Love your content. Appreciate your transparency. I too went to M3 for the 112 W/ Hoonies tune. Sawicki pro pipe. Love it.
It's a great set up!! Im not surprised you're loving it!!! 💪
Bloody awesome performance...
Ya making us all jealous...
Had mine dynoed... think it's runnin too much fuel.. still trying to sort that bit.
I'm a happy guy!! Haha I hope you get your AF correct soon!!
Nice video, you do good work thanks for posting.
I would not be happy at all though spending basically 6000k for 130/130, I would feel violated lol
Fish, A big THANK YOU for this video. You nailed it.
$470 per ft lbs of tq and $320 per hp. $19 on average combined for both increases.
I think big bore kit with Lloyd’s cam would hit the 150hp 150tq mark.
Sweet
Sucks for anyone that bought a 23 is locked out from a 112 kit due to not being able to custom tune the bike!
The 23' can be tuned.. though, are a lot more work intensive to get through all the tuning pages, etc.
@Kash6161 who's tuning it? Because talking to big shops non can do it. Only option is aftermarket ecu.
When can we get our challengers to beat HD 131 kit? They like 140/145. Spanked my old loydz flash,oem cam and tab pipes.
131 will bust our guts. 135 isn't even a race after 2nd gear. I'm tired of harley lol
Naw, my 108 hung tight with a 131!!!! Maybe you need a toce pipe... Im confidence my 112 will walk a 135..
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That would be a blast to ride! Too bad winter is hitting now. I’d be curious if Lloydz intake manifold would make any worth while difference? Probably not worth the effort and re-tune, but for science it’d be cool.
I have been talking with Lloydz and monkey about that type of stuff stay tuned!!
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Thank you for waiting & doing it the right way with transparency.
Those numbers are no joke, but I know you are chasing more. Your set up is different than Lloyd'z, but he has said time & time again, the set-up has to be a certain way to get optimum performance. Let's see your aet up against a Lloyd'z bike ???
Ill keep watching & im already subscribed.....
Great content.......this is an intro to Dieselgman, my partner. He has something to tell you. "Hi Fish, Love your videos. We are putting together a Wisconsin event for Indian motorcycles and all bikers at our own venue in Kendall WI. Anticipating having it over Labor Day weekend... wanting to run it a full week and every year from 2024 forward. You are invited."
Keep me updated, I would love to hang if I can make it work!!!!!
All us 2023+ guys over here being all slow still 😂
Hahaha, it really a setup.. we not trying to let you pass us!!! Hahahah. Only way I win!!! 💪 💪 💪
great content Fish 👍
Just gotta find a HD 135 and a new 121 VVT race.
The 121 VVT (stock) is not that fast.
@@mickcathey it’s the fastest they have right now though.
@@CindiB_Does_America No its not... the 131ci and 135ci are.
@@UnrulyRiderany of those stock from HD? I mean…he’s already busted a 131. He will a 135 as well.
@@CindiB_Does_America His bike isn't stock from Indian... lets compare apples to apples here. I ride a Challenger myself... but I went with the Lloydz 530 cams, billet intake, and their custom Lloydz Sawicki 2:1 exhaust - dynoed 140hp and 130trq. But I am smart enough to know that a built 131ci or 135ci that is properly setup will make well over 160hp... he hasn't busted one of those, neither have I.
A well built 128ci, 131ci, 135ci, or 143ci M8 utilizing the right selection of parts is going to walk all over Fish's or my own Challenger. You are comparing EPA emissions regulated builds from HD vs a performance shop built 112ci setup. Again, lets compare apples to apples.
Awesome!!! The question everyone hates to answer how much would it cost the average person to get the work you did to your bike done? I’m contemplating the big bore kit but not sure yet.
The whole kit..
Pistons, cylinders, clutch, cam, and everything also installed are like 5,900 bucks
Great video my dude 130 is nothing to pick at!
Just my opinion but for the cost, should be in the 150 Club.
Just me, or is that torque line fkn ridiculous? From 2.5 to 5k. Serious pulling! Then the conversion of near peak hp. Can only assume a slow shift at 4.250rpms. I would assume shifts at 4 to 5k would be very hard to hang with, seems that HDs no matter how big the engine kind of all dump their tq before or around 4ish.
So was there a big difference in power between the original Toce pipe and the newer pipe? And for those who have the original, can you replace just the header pipe with proper fitment?
If felt like there was!! Now, I also didn't dyno it all finished with the 108 pipe.. I would suggest emailing Toce and asking them about options if you have the 112 but already ordered the original 2-1 pipe..
@@Ridingfish I have the OG Toce pipe but I do not have the 112 😥.. yet.
Hey Fish,
So with everything done now for a while, do you, or would you feel comfortable riding your bike cross country?
Oh yea!!!!! I mean since my BBK I have almost 8,000 miles.. thats skipping 3 months this summer!!
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Dude! I know You want to say it! It's right on the tip of Your tongue, but You can't quite get yourself to say it! That Honda Gold Wing is Crazy Fast! There, I said it for You 🤣
Thank you!!!!! It is crazy fast!! And also so easy!!! Its like C8 supercar and C7 muscle car!! Both amazing!!! Just DIFFERENT
@Ridingfish My money is on Spicy Candy. If the GW wins it's due to the trans. If it were a manual it would get smoked.
I owned a 2020 wing. It ran good, however my 2020 challenger with an 90 lb heavier guy on it would smoke my wing. So there. I said it. 😊
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Hey Fish, any updates on the 23 tune?
Remote tuning sucks. Atmospheric conditions vary numbers greatly on the same dyno. What I didn't see here was the excitement or energy displayed when Fish was riding the Goldwing. Wouldn't trade my DCT Wing Tour for any Indian or Harley.
Oh, I understand..
I have been asked about this.. It's like a C8 corvette supercar.. or
The C7 superchargered muscle car!! What do you want.. both great just different! !
Why not just buy a BMW K1600 with 135 RWHP straight out of the box.
Numbers are awesome. However harley has many motor options and can go north of 155 hp and 160 ft lbs of torque. So na na na boo boo.
Only when they go 131 or bigger cubes... we can make 150hp/trq on a 112ci. Y'all won't ever make that happen with your tractor tech HD's.
@UnrulyRider genius. You had to go bigger cubic inch over stock. Same deal. It's a liquid cooled engine so yes doesn't need to be 131 but he only made 135 hp not 150 135. There are harleys making Over 160. Bigger is bigger harley just has 20 different options between choice of 122, 124, 128, 131, 135, 143 147, 151. And a plethora of cams. So we can pick and choose all you can do is go to 1 place with 1 motor upgrade. 112 is all you got.
@@dnice4431 I've got a little 108ci still yet, but its making 140hp and 130trq with just cams, intake, exhaust, and tune. That Harley won't live long making all that power with all that heat being made. See it all the time, they don't live long.
@@dnice4431 Wrong, there are 2 different options on cams for the Challenger, about to be 3 when Lloydz releases their big bore kit. The KOTB bikes are making north of 170hp and still only 112ci. Harley tractor tech is a dying bread, the CEO of HD already said they are going all electric.
@UnrulyRider 2 whole options. About to be 3. Wooooooo go indian. Oh wait. None actually made by Polaris oops I mean "indian"
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