ULTIMATE Lingcod Rockfish Rod and Reel Tutorial - Watch Before You Buy!
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Top-down review of basic-to-advanced lingcod and rockfish rod and reel setups. Detailed overview of what techniques work PLUS! close up views of the gear that will put you on big fish.
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Do you write scripts for these videos? Your presentation and screen presence is amazing. Your talents are being vastly under utilized. Even if it's just for a gear segment, someone needs to get you a spot on Major League Fishing's broadcast team.....this would of course come after that Modelo deal. 🤞🤞🤞
ah thx braddah! no script, i just film a couple takes for each segment and edit it down, just speaking from the top of my head. where's that modelo sponsorship already??
@@ishwithfish Am I the only one pulling for this? Can we get a campaign started for this or something lol
Great Vid... I live in Alaska and have been fishing rockfish for over 40 years. I noticed that you had a Avet MXL. Match that to a Shimano Trevala S series C4S TVSC-63MH. I am telling you it will be a vast improvement over the Trevala you are currently running. I know, I have both of these rods in my arsenal. The Newer C4S is lighter, more sensitive and has more power. This is the pole my wife uses above all others combined. This rod has caught every rock fish we have, ling cod to 58" her best so far. and even one 120# Halibut. Most of our depth are from 30' to 225'. If you have the coin try it. If you do not like it, let me know I will buy it from you. I am that impressed by this rod. I use the next lighter rod (TVSC-63M) with a Avet SX, and it is my new go to for the rock fish & lings. I have not broken the 100# halibut but have pulled a 65# up. Keep up with these videos. I may not agree on everything but you are on the right track. In the mean time rip some lips...
Spiral/acid wrapped rods for the win. I love my phenix slow pitch rod.
Great, informative video.
I fish for rock and cod quite frequently, and use a variety of rods and reels. I often gravitate towards a Penn Spinfisher and slammer (7500 and 10k), but use the 6 and 8k Spheros, as well.
Nice presentation btw and great rigs for CA rockfish.
I love shallow water ling/cab fishing from small vessels. Agree that the Shadow Stalker is a great rod. I have one of the first they put out which has a split grip. I like the full grip on yours. I also love my Okuma Guide Select swimbait rods for inshore. I tuned out when you started talking about the cattleboat gear and the 1-2oz....I mean POUND🤣 weights and shrimp flies. I like my fish to weigh more than my weights😁 Big baits, inshore, small vessels, and light gear for the win!
Another great video though. Made up some of those wire leaders for Soupfin. I'll send you a few if I know where to send them.
I use much lighter keep for jetty fishing for Rockfish and lings here in Washington . But not nearly as light as that Pen Rod. Legendary moments right there Ish 😂 The Lexa is an amazing reel!
Great video. I appreciate how you want over the pros and cons of the different setups.
My personal favorite is a Lexa HD on a 7' 40lb mod-fast rod. Landed tons of small rock fish and a few YT here in SoCal on that rig.
sweet!
Great video. for rockfish my " old man save my back and wind all day" best setup is a 2speed with a 2:1 low gear, level wind mechanism if (you can find one) braid line fished on a broomstick as for casting in rockfish areas hundred feet or deeper there is no casting everything comes back to the boat after about a hundred feet and you're fishing straight up and down
Wait! What about the Ugly Stik?!😂 Great informative video for people like me. I purchased a Lexa 300 line counter paired with a 6'6" Trevala specifically for boat fishing. Had to do a lot of research because there are not many videos out there covering the topic for Nor Cal fishing that your video covered. Sort of wish I got the larger 400 Lexa for the line capacity. Now I may have to look into those Okuma bait caster with the clicker. Thanks for the upload.
i had a tiger stik 7' med jigging for a bit, didn't like it nearly as much as my trevala so i sold it. but you're right, it's a great bulletproof option!
Ugly stick is all purpose bro... Not Gucci but will always work.
Dope video very informative i always wanted to go rock fishing and now i can use this info to try it out I'm usually a surf kind of fisherman
Good informative video.
I like that you reel lefty on everything. I’m the same way. I’m right handed but reel with my left. Never made sense to me to cast right handed then switch the rod to the left hand and reel with the right hand with a baitcaster. You want to do the hard work with your dominant arm and the easy work, reeling, with your left.
agreed!
Yeah, I came from fly fishing originally where this was the norm. I was so confused when I first saw people switching hands
Was that a narrow spool jigmaster?? It looks so good man. I collect older penn reels and I gotta say the jigmaster is by far my favorite jigging reel. Something about fishing with something older than you makes me happy. Good looking setup
Great tutorial!
The teramar is a great all around rod. Cool video
Great video, thanks !!
Thanks for the tips! I'm starting to get used to baitcaster turning a little way from the spinning rod for rockfishing
I dig your channel. Keep up the good work.
thx man!
Thx Ish!!!
Awesome informative vid! Should do a series of similar vids of recommended rod and reel of the other NorCal game fishes that you can catch from kayak/boats like halibut, sturgeon, salmon, striper, wsb, and etc ! And can title the series "Ultimate" for the playlist name.
Can you do your top rods and reel combos under $100?
great video thanks
Good job. Very good information!!
Great stuff,,,,Glad I watched this video. Thanks!!!
Hey ish great video as usual, i was wondering if you've made a surf combo version, ive got some setups and would like to hear your take on different combos, was looking to find an all black setup rod/reel/braided line🤙
Great information. I have a Penn gto 220. Is this good enough for rock fishing? Like your videos.
Good video
The Avet MXj is bae af! Takes getting used to the lever drag but the power you get is ridiculous for such a tiny reel.
For the beginners:
I agree braided line reduces lag time (due to no stretch) during hook sets & jigging, as well as help with sensitivity, but from experience, if you're fishing 300-450ft deep water (Socal peeps) extra sensitivity really doesn't matter due to the increased sinker weight. At that point a circle hook and jigheads with extra sharp hooks do the work for you and saves your wrist lol.
Also mono is great if someone is new to rockfishing and still has to learn how to set their drag to compensate for sink speed based on sinker weight, work the current, and NOT TANGLE 10+ ppl at once...lol. Because braid tangles are farrrr worse and near impossible to work with compared to mono. Tangles are inevitable in charter boats, but if you don't know what you're doing and tangle a lot of ppl, you'll just piss off the boat and waste valuable line & fishing time.
Tight lines ya'll and great video!
GREAT feedback, thx. yup i kinda glossed over the noob factor when it comes to braid, most captains hate it esp if its over 40lbs lol. hopefully anyone watching this levels up quick and isn't 'that guy'😁
Ish With Fish do you think you need a 2 speed reel for rockfish? I was looking for a good reel and red combo for both rockfish and yellow tail.
Is that handle on your tranx 500pg longer than the stock one?
Yeah, thumb bars are great but what makes it even better is if you have a line counter and know before you get to the bottom if your getting close. You can also see exactly how much more line your having to let out than the bottom depth and that tells you if you need to speed up or slow down the drift.
Also if there are suspended black rockfish you can target the depth they are hanging out at.
Okuma coldwater LP 354.
No contest for rockfishing. And under $150.
My favorite is my trevala s MH with a shimano curado 300 EJ..lighter then the regular trevala and I have landed many 20 plus pound lings and halibuts
What bait did you use for that lingcod on the small penn rod and reel?
what about shore fishing? Have any recommendations for rod and reel for shoreline fishing?
tbh i do very limited shore rockfishing, but my friends uses a minimum 10' heavy action surf rod with a 6000 spinning reel. need the length and heavy action to get the fish out of the rocks.
Great Video!!! What gear ratio did you go with on the lexa? I'm completely new to this and I really appreciate you taking the time to do these videos...
thx! i got the 7.1:1 since im often retrieving 150-180' line after every drop. it's a workout if i have a good fish on, but it's a good tradeoff👍🏼
Another fantastic equipment video. Do I see a Trevala/Tranx setup in my future? Where's my magic 8 ball?
i think you do! TVC66MH + Tranx 400 PG is calling you...
Can you please do a recommendation for more affordable rockfish baitcasters?
what's your budget?
@@ishwithfish 75 bucks
What pound test braid are u using on that light spinning reel? I don’t know what pound test to put on my reel so I was wondering what you have on yours.
this one has 30lb braid, it's easier to cast vs 10 or 20lb test.
Ish i seen your review of reels and rods. Ish those ocean rods and reels. You use for rock fish and ling cod. Where i live at in Az, "we use the same set up for flat head catfish". Ish you should try flat head catfishing. I think you would enjoy very much. Plus you could work that in your line up hint,hint. Ish keep on with the good work and god bless.
right on brother, hopefully one day!
Great and informative video man! If you had to choose only one setup for versatility and for possibly targeting other species such as yellowtail which would you choose?
that teramar west coast rod with the 400 komodo ss is actually an irons setup, perfect for yellowtail 😁 rockfish lings and sturgeon is just a bonus.
@@ishwithfish Thanks man I'll check them out. Time to save up $$$
@@ishwithfish M or the MH teramar West coast rod. I was looking online and noticed that rod doesn't have that finger trigger like the trevala.
Man that Trevala 6'6 MH is not available anymore lol, what would you recommend in its place?
I know this might be a lot to ask for, but is there a set up that would work well for rockfish, ling cod, and California halibut from a kayak?
sure, i think best all around setup is a trevala 7ml, 300 daiwa lexa hd, and 40lb daiwa jbraid. you'll be able to jig, troll, and bounce ball everything👍🏼
Whats the size of the fishing line braided/mono that you usually use?
usually 40lb braid with 30lb leader👍🏼
Awesome information, do you think the Tranx 400 would be good for the Farolon Islands boat trip?
yup! perfect reel and size. i have a Tranx 500 and it's overkill for everything in the bay area (except maybe an overslot sturgeon), a 400 is great.
@@ishwithfish you and my uncle recommended this reel so it looks like a good present to myself. Keep up the videos, it helps a lot of us amateurs.
thank you for your information, really apreciated the information especially on reels, I have a question, have started fishing with a friend but sometimes my line has gotten all tangled from throwing out because I guess my thumb hasn't stopped it well, is there a way to avoid this?
sure, start practicing casting mono, and make sure your spool tensioner and casting brake are set correct, many videos on UA-cam to dial in a baitcaster👍 once you're comfortable with mono give braid a shot.
Totally new to the sport, I have only been out three times and I’m totally hooked. Thank you for all the fantastic information, it’s hard to know where to start and your channel definitely clears much of the confusion. I’m interested in rock fishing with future hopes in landing some lingcod here in Southern California. A great friend of mine hooked me up with a Saltist 40 super torque as a welcome to the sport starter. I’m considering the Teramar 8’ as you suggested but also keeping an open mind with the Phenix PSX-809 because of their warranty and how close I live to their factory. Any personal recommendations on what I might check out? At this stage of the game I am trying to make my dollar count although I’m pretty sure I will eventually go down the rabbit hole.
thx for the feedback. the 808 is by far the most popular model up here in that phenix range (party boat staple) with the 809 reserved for guys who lean towards sturgeon too. if you have bluefin, yellowfin and yellow tail in your sights, the 809 would probably be best fit for you. enjoy your new obsession:)
Thank you for the insight. I will probably be leaning the 808 direction then. Seems like there is plenty of options that would be an improvement over our rented gear.
I noticed some of your casting reels are right handed as well. Can you elaborate on lefts and rights? I too find myself fishing mostly with left hand reels, spinning reels and all but find myself using right handed casting reels...
just personal preference. i prefer left handed reels, but can use right. every right handed reel in this vid is a loaner lol.
I’ll be fishing for halibut, salmon, rockfish, and lingcod in Alaska from a kayak. So out of all of these which should I get? I’m assuming your overall recommended setup
that 8' teramar med and an avet mxj would catch all of those. Alaska has big fish!
Ish With Fish thank you so much!!!
Ish With Fish what action? I know power is medium. Thanks it means a lot
Hello ish I have a question for you in your video you talked about a 8’ shimano teramar medium but your link is to a 7’ rod which is it ? I want to pull the trigger based on your review. Thanks keep it up
🤔 ah, the 8' must have sold out and they only have 7' left. all good man, i'm sure other sites carry the 8' version i have. thx for watching!
Going to start fishing here in the lakes around Austin. Will eventually fish for the massive carp that are just catch and kill. I have no gear what so ever and have no idea what is ideal. Any ideas?
sup man, that's so cool! i hear carp is an awesome species to catch, tricky hard fighters. tbh i don't know too much about catching them, but i do know you float dough baits and corn, and use a baitfeeder/live liner style reel to let the bait drift naturally. a very patient style of fishing.
there's a great youtuber that i follow called 'Catfish and Carp', does a good job of breaking down gear and techniques. id start with him👍
Hey Ish, I’m looking into getting a new reel. Right now I’m between the Shimano Tranx 300 and Daiwa Lexa 300. Have you used them? How are they when it comes to casting? Any info you might have would help. Thanks
sup man, so i've used the lexa 300 and tranx 500. imo, the shimano is a more refined version of the lexa and casts a bit better than the lexa, but i don't think it's quite worth the extra $100 in difference. i would go with lexa and save the extra 100 on lures, a bg, or beer! :)
Hey I’m not sure which rod I should get the trevalaMH or the teramar 8’MH i want it for charter boat fishing I usually use swimbaits and jigs
if you like fishing swimbaits, the teramar is the better choice. but i prefer the trevala since its super light and sensitive.
Thanks ish
Ok. I have the Trevala 50-80 at the time of purchase had no idea how much rod I had. Used Avet sx 5.3. I have an sx Raptor to swap out. I went down the "Big Sur" and caught 10, 7-8. Lb.. Vermillion in a row. 300'. Will the dais lexa 300 fish 300' plus have enough power when I leave it there extra 5 seconds taking a break , then have to reel 2 8 lb plus Vermillion. I need more muscle from reel. Never used baitcaster
get a 400! need the line capacity and cranking power to lift those toads from the deep👍🏼
Looking to update my rockfishing rods. I've tried some Teramar rods that were too stiff, some glass rods that weren't sensitive enough. Looking at the Trevala TVC6'6MH like you recommended, but I've seen some people complain that they're too parabolic and not a fast enough tip. In SoCal, we usually fish 12oz in 250' for water. I'm curious your opinion on the medium/medium fast action on this rod. Also, I use the Shimano Tekota level wind reels, its a great alternative to the bass-type baitcasters.
Can I use a Shimano Tranx 400 for rock fishing? Should I get the regular 400A or 400AHG? I would also like to use the reel to Catch yellow tail, and tuna. I doubt I'd be getting anything bigger than 20lbs though. Thank you. And if yes what rod would you suggest I'd pair it with and what lb line 40, maybe?
you can use any reel to catch rockfish, really. choose the reel speed based on your primary species first. a tranx 400 would pair great with an 8' shimano teramar med, esp if you're targeting 20lb fish mostly.
Would you use a lexa 400 for bottom rock fishing too?
absolutely! go with with higher speed reel if you can, reeling up from 200'+ gets tiring, need some line speed. the 8.1:1 i believe. if your crank arm gets tired, lift rod up, crank as you point rod down, let the rod do the lifting.
Ish With Fish thank you for your response. How heavy of a lure can i use on a lexa? The heaviest one i have is about 15 oz so i would imagine its too much. I can use a bucktail i guess.
Very good information Ishwithfish.
How many rods do you bring with you when you go on a charter boat?
i normally bring 2: one for jigging lures, one for sending down live bait.
Thanks for replying. If you wanted to bring 3 or more.... is that frowned upon?
@@heavymatters2750 imo yeah. depends on boat really. there's usually a set of rental rods already on board, and then if everyone brings 2 there's just enough leftover holders. more than 2 and there's usually no room for the extra.
Ish With Fish thanks for the info
If I use a spinning reel what size would I need
id use a 5000 for the line capacity at depth and more comfortable gear ratios. that said, baitcaster or conventional always better for vertical rockfishing imo.
@@ishwithfish also I will not be fishing deeper than 120 ft so dose that change anything
Thanks for posting! I have a Tranx 400 and looking for a do everything rod (kayak included) do you recommend the Trevala or Teramar?? Much appreciated!
the teramar is the more versatile rod imo, med version should be perfect for most california species. enjoy!
@@ishwithfish in 7' or 8'? Your link says and goes to Amazon to buy a 7' version but the video talks about 8'? Thanks!
I think i'm going to use a Daiwa Saltist bg30h on a trevala 6'6 mh for jigging rockfish and lingcod. do you think that will pair nicely?
great reel, but i think that's more suited for trolling?
@@ishwithfish ya i agree it's more ideal for trolling.. if it had a narrow spool i think it'd almost be a jigging reel though. except watching your kayak videos and others have me pumped and i think i'm gonna have to get a budget fishing kayak, then i'll use the saltist for kayak trolling :) i'm used to going out on party boats in dana point but now i'm thinkin a $7-800 kayak will be cheaper and more productive in the long run then all those 3/4 days.
Are the tranx400ahg also good to fish with dropper loops ? For large Rock fish as well
yeah those tranx are awesome! overkill for rockfish but nice to have if you target bigger gamefish too.
Ish With Fish thank you 🙏. I appreciate your input I have so many toys wanted to add new one. Stay healthy and safe everyone hopefully we can be out there enjoying what we love to do.
@@808rem1x same to you👍🏼
Ish, I'm new to rock fishing and have only been out once before. I noticed some people had line counter baitcasters the last time I was out rock fihing. Do they work? Are there any you would recommend for this style of fishing?
yup! line counters are popular, esp if a charter captain can see them and calls out exact depth you can zero in on them with a counter.
I'm still searching for a reel the makes it a little easier to bring up a 12oz or 16oz sinker.
Avet MXJ is a great little winch, comes in A star drag now👍🏼
@@ishwithfish Thanks I will look into it.
@@ishwithfish Well Ish I just bought the MXJ Star drag, cant wait for the rock fish season opens up in March to try this baby out.
@@ozkersnchez2368 awesome! enjoy👍🏼
would these setups work for fishing for rockfish from shore?
no. Id recommend a 10' minimum mh or h surf setup. need the length and power to pull rockfish outta structure, through kelp, up cliffs, etc.
Hi,very nice video.
My friend made me a present form Japan:a Graphiteleader GOMTC-802H-MR.
Usually I'm fishing in shore or in a Seaport with 25 Mt water deep with 15/35 metal jig.
Can you suggest me a baicasting reel (about 200/250 euro) for this situation?
Best regards
shimano tranx 400, choose the speed that best fits your fishing style👍🏼
Good stuff, but two things that I was hoping would be covered were not. 1. In Florida, long accurate casts were the thing. Fishing for lincod in the kayak in PNW I keep getting the line wrapped around the guides. Is there a way to avoid that, it seems that it doesnt happen as much with the bait caster though. 2.Fighting a fish with conventional gear is so dang awkward!
Which rod did you have the lexa300 on
okuma cedros jigging. a tuna rod that can handle heavy ling jigs too👍🏼
Do you think 40# is too light?
40lb is actually a little heavy for rockfish🤔 its difficult to unsnag from a kayak too. you can catch most norcal rockfish with 30lb.
Ish With Fish I got you but I was thinking is at east 50 or 65# backing with 30# mono top shot. How much top shot do you usually put on? Maybe 25 yards?
Are these all your set up? I have two set up, I thought I have a lot. I'm surprise you have many.
not all😊 some are loaned from friends, and some are non rockfish setups i showed as versatile substitutes. my go-to is the trevala and shadow stalker.
Every rockfish and cod carters I've been on went on 300+ feet of water and those low profile baitcasters won't hold that much 50 lbs braid. Only conventional reels will have that capacity. Just saying.
Facts and with the new depth restrictions and the difficulty of pulling up a pound of lead really defeats the purpose of those reels
A Lexa 400 holds 300 yards of 40lb braid. That's 900 feet, 3 times what you are describing. I can pull up at least a pound of lead easily.
I have 300 yards of 40lb braid on my Okuma Komodo 471P.
@@RaymondLejano I have a 463 komodo, same thing. 300 yrd of 40 lb braid, plus a topshot. Great reels.
How many yards for the 40lb jbraid
which reel?
@@ishwithfish I was talking about the jbraid from Amazon. I already ordered it from your link. Thank you keep up the good work🤙🏽
@@johnnybravo508 ah right on bro, appreciate it🤘🏼
I have a Penn baitcaster with 30lbs braid on it but never used it or any baitcaster for that matter bc I dont know how so I say screw it and go spinning bc its what I know lol
ah don't trip, whatever works! don't be discouraged with the conventional, it's pretty easy. should i film a how-to for setting up the brakes on a round reel?
@@ishwithfish you read my mind! Please do!
Old school here - penn jigmaster -30.lb momno -
Does anyone have a recommendation for choosing a second rod? I go charter boat fishing at the farallon islands a lot. My main setup is a ugly stick elite paired with a avet sxj. Its perfect for fishing shrimp flies and trap rigs using 16oz weights but I am looking at getting a second lighter setup for jigging butterfly jigs and swimbaits in the 7-8oz range. I have a Piscifun Torrent reel that I would like to pair with the lightest possible bass rod capable of handling up to 8 oz. Please let me know what ya'll would recommend :)
EDIT: This setup won't be used a lot so I'd like to keep it on the cheaper side. (Otherwise I would go with a shimano trevala)
just get the trevala, you won't regret it😁👍
Anyone that uses a spinning outfit for speed jigging for "reef donkeys" might disagree on which is better.
100% agreed. this vid is specially for groundfish that hang on reefs that rarely get over 20 lbs in norcal. most conventionals can't match the speed requirements for speed jigging that high speed spinners can. amberjacks are NOT targeted in this vid lol
Or get a bait runner easy fix I been fishing conventionals most of my life but this is a spinner summer I don’t care about ur avet it’s all about fighting monsters on little spinners this is what spinner summer is all about
this might be my favorite comment
8' swimbaits/ jigs all day.
Wtf who uses 8 foot swimbaits/jigs
8' rod is what I prefer
Dude you're scaring me all that equipment all that money Costco has rockfish
haha true. i use my affiliate link commission to buy/test gear to review in the future, or i borrow stuff. the goal is to test the market's popular equipment and give subs a honest thorough review.
Let’s all go to Costco and not fish or hunt what a douche bag...better then spending money on Jordan’s and going out to bars and blowing money on stuff that doesn’t put food on the table.
Liked the video but had to quit before the end. The commercials got to me!!
haha fair enough. my review vids take 10-15 hours EACH to produce, i compensate my time with a commercial or 2😁👍
yo im going on a charter in a few weeks. any suggestions charters for ling cod or rock fish
Daniel how was it? Lol
Seeing that old school conventional reel on that spinning rod made me cringe hard af 😆
haha you know you're an og when you catch a spinner posing as a conventional rod🤫
@@ishwithfish true true 😆
First! Lol
Your rich I can barely by a penn battle
haha i wish. a lot of gear shown is loaned from friends👍
Y is that most of this video is for boat or kayak I mean u guys think everyone got money for u to always got outshore... srry but you should show inshore too then just outshore alot of people are inshore more then outshore I'm srry good but not to much to explain what rod to get Inshore
hey good point, yup this mostly offshore👍🏼
actualy spinning reels are alot quicker than conventional
Your using the wrong rod on a jig master. That's a spinning rod
trust me, the shop that sold that to my dad back in the day sold it as a conventional rod. the old school ones didn't have much smaller guides like today🤔
@@ishwithfish that's affirmative
Check for the spine on that Rod that will tell you if it's a spinner or conventional rod
Boxers or brief?
Spinning reel or Bait casting?
Beginners should ALWAYS use Spinning due to the fact they don’t have to worry about all the knobs on a bait caster.
Lamiglas 9” medium rod... $100
Penn Slammer 3....4500.....$170
It’s the last set up you’ll need for years to come, everything he has on this table is TRASH.
😂😂 you're joking right?
Everything is trash,all you need is line and hands LOL😂😂😂
😂👍
SMH 🤦♀️,
Great video, thanks !