Untapped sponsored some of these players. Some of those same players mad Dkayed’s site posted Untapped’s data. Obviously no one will admit to scouting at Worlds but Dkayed admits it happens. Untapped backpedaling saying it was never meant to be used that way. Me on the sidelines watching: 👀 🍿
To be fair to Untapped they never backpedaled. They basically said the way their app was used goes against their philosophy and purpose for the tool. Which is absolutely true to my knowledge. I use untapped to view my own decklists and game stats but I never considered that it could be used to cheat in a tournament because it’s never been advertised as that type of product.
The issue there is scouting is not prohibited, does it give some players an advantage, yes 100%, but it's not against the rules, handing someone their opponents entire deck list, while they have no clue, is an issue, scouting is an entirely different problem
yeeeeesh, I just got back into YUGIOH via Master Duel a year or two ago. Hadn't touched it since my bro died and its pretty different for sure. I could understand if it was the TCG, but where the game is at theses days I would consider it mostly solved and that would be mitigated with the availability of cards to players.
@mammothslayerentertainment8260 that would be fine if these decks were more predictable, the issue for the world championship is its a 3v3 and teams share a card pool, only 3 cards designated can be played in all decks, so if your deck hard loses to something like nibiru, in a regular match you have to keep that in mind, when you know that the deck your playing against doesn't have nibiru, you no longer have to play around them having it
The live data for the players hand is available to Konami. By your logic, should Konami just let both players view each others hands? Yugioh players at that level would be able to tell who wins with just a glance. Why even play the game. Just play rock paper scissors for about 30 minutes and call it a day.
@@StormCrownSr available means that the data is already available on the internet, bruh no one want's this shit, but the data was leaked by some stupid sponsored malware app players install in their pc to monitor their decks, so they leaked that data, the payers allowed the app to steal their decks.
@sepheiba Maybe people should just not leak shit for once in their lives... It's not hard to just not do something. It's funny how you people bitch at Konami but you don't say a word about the people that were leaking it before Dkayed posted it. Konami aren't the only ones that need to stop their bs.
@@Raytheharbinger0 the data was leaked by upper deck, it was already available on the internet. do you want to say a word to upper deck? please go ahead. Pro players will probably uninstall that spyware, and upper deck will make sure to not make data available without players' consent. this talk is not gonna change anything.
@@StormCrownSr /woooooosh Untapped reads out decks in replays, therefore you can have the deck list. So either, Untapped managed to replicate the entire deck for whatever reason OR the decks data is actually stored in the replay. Either way, THAT has to get fixed, period. OP literally just stated: Don't shoot the messenger.
I'm very confused here. Didn't dkayed get the decklist from untapped Why is he getting all the blame when the decks were already public knowledge to begin with
The difference is he went and grabbed everyone’s deck list and basically said “hey loook here’s the information on everyone” instead of having people do it themselves. so instead of a handful of people using the site now everyone knows
@Hibiki_Io not "instead of everyone else". He did it cause some players have connections to find the decks, while others do NOT. When you leak all the Decks, you equalize for those players that may not have the connections to get the Decka
@@winniebeats5164 I’m sorry no. When everyone knows what everyone plays it makes the game meta gamie. if I know my opponent doesn’t play nib I no longer have to play around the possibility. It makes counter play much less effective too. just because “some people” go around and destroy the integrity of a game doesn’t give one person the right to screw over everyone.
I mean, even Untapped made a statement saying what dkayed did was not how the site was to be used, outright saying it was a promotion for cheating. So even Untapped is calling out dkayed for what he did.
@@hasshenjo6416 🤣🤣🤣 No, what I mean is while Bandit Keith pretty much keeps his cheating on the Down low, This guy makes no secret that he's trying to be slick. He just sugar coats it with "oh I'm doing y'all a favor."
Apparently he was able to leak the deck list using the program Untapped, which usually tells you stats wnd ehatever is left in your deck, but it does the same thing for replays too. Untapped got really pissed about this and had to put an entire blog about it and how their program is in no way a way to cheat
Its bad but people can’t say Dkayed is linked to Uptapped when it’s a separate program that he’s not associated with unlike MDM which is his but I still don’t agree with using any program during a major event
And 2 of the finalists had Untapped and the other 2 didn't so they knew their opponents deck then Dkayed gave the decks away for an even playing field and Untapped had to apologize for "glitch"
it's not about "everyone shouldn't have rights for decklist" it's more like a competitive spirit during the tournament. it incentivizing players who plays in the tournament originally wants to play fair, to look at other's decklist fully displayed, instead of doing observation, tabulating datas or some shit on their own
It literally is an unfair advantage that sabotaged the intent behind why tech choices were made. Also ALL the players there are top players. You are being dishonest.
I mean, he and his team are the reason that Konami is now forced to announce future packs before he leaks them, and that helps players so that they don't waste their resources in cards that might get powercrept the next pack.
Konami provided replays : CHECK. untapped is a legal app: CHECK. Players are able to use it to get decklists legally: CHECK. Dkayed doing what everyone else could be doing already: Suddenly an issue? HUH? Clearly a case of Paper players wanting MD to be as garbage as Physical....
At least write properly. You managed to only have 75% of the points for a 5 word sentence. At least learn how to formulate an argument before replying with your actual brainrot...
There is a difference between in-tournament information gathering, which is a part of this kind of tournament in general, and leaking everything before a single match is played. As someone who follows Pokemon tournaments a lot, it’s up to you tu figure out who is friend with someone you’ve already played and might know your strategy, or, if you played a gane on stream, it’s up to you to adapt to the fact that others have seen your game plan and try to use it against them. But making it so the very first match played has been played defeats the whole point of that.
I'm subscribed to both capG and Dkayed. I think it's disingenuous to not talk about HOW Dkayed got the deck lists and whether that information was already public. This very much frames it as Dkayed is some sort of master hacker spy man who obtained the deck lists mysteriously and posted them. If a guy with a popular website posts already public information for money and attention, I don't see the problem. Everyone crying about morality and integrity can go interview the participants and see how many of them admit to looking through the deck-lists leaks. If all the participants are playing fairly like they say they are, then the "leaks" had no affect on the participants.
I find it hypocritical to boast fairness, but not even mention Untapped's response to this, how dkayed abused a function to promote cheating using information that should not have been distributed at the time. Untapped has already said that this was an oversight they've corrected and taken measures to fix it. Meanwhile dkayed is doubling down on the "Not my fault" mentality
@@ProtossTempest it was still public, there's also the fact numerous player are actually sponsored by untapped, so there will always be a conflict of interests
@@ProtossTempest I could care less about fairness. I wouldn't care if Dkayed came out and said he just did it to be spiteful. That doesn't concern me lol. I'm just saying CapG is covering this in a disingenuous way, leaving out key information about the source of the deck lists. Again, If a guy with a popular website posts already public information for money and attention, I don't see the problem.
@@ProtossTempestIf Dkayed is the one that is making untapped change the way they operate isn't he the good guy??... if people were already using untapped to cheat and dkayed made it so where EVERYONE can cheat and now untapped is going to make it so NOBODY can cheat... Didn't Dkayed do a necessary evil??? I'm just playing devil's advocate
Why’s there so many people screaming at Dkayed for essentially exposing Untapped for being a way to cheat? From what I’m reading in other comments and all it even sounds like some of the big players who were sponsored had highlighted the ability to see that stuff on their channel before and nobody said anything. Is Dkayed just…hated for other reasons and people are just screaming at him cause they have some salt or anger about something else he’s said or done? Cause not only is it a stupid double standard, if Untapped didn’t mean for people getting to see the decklists of others, it wouldn’t be information left on their site. It wouldn’t be available until after the event, so it sounds to me like they sponsor cheaters actively and get a cut of the rewards or get more site traffic due to sponsoring a big winning player. Now they’re angry they were caught out and were trying to cover their asses, and Dkayed is a convenient scapegoat so they can’t be accused as a way to cheat or have their sponsored players called into question
@@M.W.2 yet he wins tourneys kekw, you're just sheep licking konami's boots. some people should have the right to knowledge. what is your solution then, cause even if it didn't happen what dkayed did: it's not stopping the ones who still knows the other people's side.
This is a "you can't see the forest for the trees" argument. 1) Neither Dkayed nor any single individual should dictate how a tournament goes, it was 100% incorrect action. 2) Judeo is sponsored by Untapped, so it's really hard to believe they didn't already use it before the leaks. Even still, just the knowledge of the app would incentivize every team to look for it so they are not the only ones at a disadvantage. There is no way to prove which players used it and this shouldn't be the point anyway. 3) The Pokemon solution is "open team sheets" with every decklist given to the opponents. It would be great if it had been known beforehand, altering the deckbuilding process entirely. Leaks would become obsolete, however, we are missing the excitement of unknown interactions (as viewers), while the players aren't rewarded for playing around potential interruptions. Prime examples here are Gamma, Nibiru, and Talent which are by far the most affected cards where a player would perform an entirely different sequence if they weren't informed of the full decklists. 4) The "bad" solution would be to monitor player contact during Day 1, so players won't be informed of potential leaks. It is a bit drastic compared to the previous solution, but at least it guarantees everyone will be on the same playfield. Informing your teammates on tech choices is perfectly fine. But even without Untapped, you and I could have written down as much of the decklists as possible and then dm them to our favorite player, so in the end we face the same issue that shouldn't exist in the first place. 5) This is an issue that happens IRL as well, with scouting being extremely prevalent during the later rounds of Regis/Nats/YCSs. There have been countless times people looking over during siding, where they practically see the entire decklist and then can inform their friends. Ignoring this and putting all the blame on Dkayed is hiding our heads in the sand. 6) Again, I consider this a horrible action because Konami through the replay system hid the decklists so they were never intended to be public during the event. And NONE yugituber/influencer/player/3rd party has the right to decide whether to publish them or not. But since this already happened, instead of focusing on the morality of said action (it was outright bad, no question here) we should focus on protecting those players and their efforts by preventing this situation entirely.
@@geek593 you are accusing him of cheating with absolutely no evidence other than he was paid to promote a service. Dkayed data mined that service to steal the lists. Simply using untapped as it was intended would not have afforded the user the ability to see their opponents list ahead of time. Untapped have decried Dkayed actions and so should you.
This whole situation feels like we're placing the play all the blame on one person and letting the other big problems get away. Also, when it comes to the situation, i don't see how this effect the competition unless there was already a cheater among them, but also knowing the deck list can only help so much in this competition when alot of them had a big gap in skill between players.
Talking about one problem isn't ignoring the others. If we can't call out a problem like this one, then we can't call out any other issues either. And though you may be right about how this actually affects the tournament, the fact remains that it was NOT DKyed's decision to make in the first place.
@SkyReaperOne I might have worded it badly but I was talking more about the other to problems in this situation being the leaker (Untapped) who was already providing this information before him and Konami with their security problems.
This was unironically a win. Had some people but not everyone known there was a data leak there would have been some real questions about the integrity of the event. Giving everyone access to avoid only a few having illicit access is great. This is why most games have open lists for their highest competitive events.
I agree with that sentiment. I do understand why people are mad but if you think about it, if Dkayed didn't do it people would never know that it could be done and the problem would never be solved. Let's be honest too, someone was probably already doing it from behind doors and informing their competitor.
I agree with this for the most part. Not only that but he’s a content creator not a Konami employee or an event judge. He had content, so he posted it which makes perfect sense. However, his response to allege that a current competitor is a cheater without any evidence was bad taste. It only made him look extremely scummy imo. Though I do think he makes great content for the game and positively contributes in many other ways.
@@markdeth9130I dont think dkayed said that the competitor was a cheater but that top players have advantages due to privilege resources like having a team working for you ( if he did call someone a cheater, my mistake i only saw this video lol) ultimately i think top players will complain because they always complain when they lose and dkayed is given them an outlet to. what dekayed leak is not a big deal, but top players will always complain, its in their competitive nature
There are 3 parties at fault here. Dkayde, the team that made the system used to get the lists and Konami for having all lists in replays and unencrypted
I think this feels like deflection. If the leak is not from him, but a continuation of the leak, then attacking him and not the leak is a personal attack, not a request to avoid the situation. Is deck being leaked to participants bad? Yes, doesn't take a TCG champion to know this is shit, I come with the age Duel Masters, the parody show of all TCG, literally made an episode how leaking someone's deck made him lose all matches all of a sudden. It can easily turn decks meant to confuse the opponent on what the build is absolutely useless, and avoids the opponent wasting chain breaks on things he knows it's not the engine or the core of the deck. Is pointing out that there is a leak of this deck by posting the full leak bad? If the leak iself is not fixed, no, it's a whistleblowing.
You contradicted your own argument with the very next sentence @9:00. You said that everyone competing knew about the list and it had become like steroids in baseball. Then your follow on sentence was that he ruined the integrity of the event. The integrity is already gone. Dudes intentions were probably for clout/money, but this definitely put pressure on Konami to tighten up their security.
I disagree with you. He really did level the playing field as you know at this top level there are players that have their friends and family feed them information between rounds.
This argument is disingenious because it's not ruining shit. You can watch all the match starting from day 1 to see the decks being used, let alone all decks in it were tier 0 which requires the same synergistic cards that all netdecks of the same deck would carry. Snake Eyes is Snakes Eyes and running optimal cards regardless if he throws in one or two card that are different. Every tournament deck ran 3 Maxx C's, 3 Ashes, 2 Called By the Grave, and Effect veilers. That's not even talking about Imperm, callout, and other cards mandatory for meta. That's almost half the main deck. Once your put creatures in you already know what the rest is. The only downside is the extra deck which even then most of that shit is same. You aren't surprised when Snake Eyes puts out Princess, or a Baronne. Nothing was harmed in this. This is just tradition of YGO online tournaments having non-sense controversy because it's what the scene is known for. If you're going to say it hurt the tournament, you need to show specific games were people did different plays that they otherwise wouldn't have because of the knowledge of their opponents deck. You can't because that's not how YGO works at a tier 0 format. You play the same end game and dare your opponent to stop you.
I think one thing that can help the game is if the winner of the game’s biggest official tournaments had the option to have their own custom card be made an official release for the actual TCG/OCG (Similar to what MTG does). It would be both an AMAZING reward AND those cards could end up being staples for the game in ways Konami would never make their cards to be by themselves.
It can be done, but the process needs oversight. The X-Wing miniatures game did this. The world champ would work with the design team to make new pieces. The key word is with. The final results were balanced, for the game. Nice to see you again Fire.
He literally did, they weren't public they were hidden in a way that was accidentally accessible. It's the equivalent of saying your medical records are public because if I walk behind the counter at your doctor's office I could just take your files and look at them.
@@jasonchang6159 not comparing the two comparing the type of PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE they are. EVERYONE understands your medical records are private, and that if someone wanted to any random person could see SOME medical records by doing stuff they aren't supposed to. Neither were public which is the point.
@@nykthosacolyte5710 Thats an ignorant argument of 2 completely different levels of severity. In the future if you're gonna make a parallel dont load the example in your favor, do something equivalent not underhanded
Can someone tell me how is it unfair to leak the decks if they were already leaked then? If he was the only reason the decks leaked I could understand, but aparently the decks already were leaked?
Because elitists want to keep the information to their own circles. Putting everyone on a even playing field, doesn't sit right with them, because he essentially indirectly exposed them, like spoiling a magic trick.
@@Element_Doom Exactly, I don't quite understand how leaking already leaked information would be a problem for anyone but the people who already previously had access to the leaked information and wished to gain an advantage on that.
@@cthegoat3987 The only players upset are those that dont know about the latest technology aka untapped. The same thing already happened at the birth of the internet when people were upset at "net-deckers" looking up decklists online. This software was not only public but also popular so now they are upset that players are "untapping" for an advantage. Keep in mind that the ability to view full decklists in replays was available for months. I personally have used and saved a few fun decks from daily replays before
It was public knowledge. Not too much of a stretch to say some players in the tournament may have already known before Dkayed “leaked” it. Blame Konami for allowing people to access the information in the first place.
I'm not gonna lie - he does have a point. Even without a datamine, we all know what goes on in these live TCG tournaments - players collude with each other in their little "teams" sharing information about the decks of players they've faced. And WITH a datamine being possible, these teams WILL try to get that information as much as possible to have an unfair advantage and not share it with anyone else. The L is on Konami's side. Dkayed did everyone a favor.
How do you confirm that EVERYONE was already spying and datamine each other and that everyone is ok with their info being leaked without their consent? Facilitating cheating because "everyone is doing it trust me" does not change the fact that it is cheating. Did any of the Dkayed defense force ever stop to consider that or just go "Because Dkayed said so it must be true"
@elin111 exactly. His argument is basically "athletes using steroids are ruining baseball, so that's why I'm offering free steroids to all players". "The game doesn't have enough integrity, so I'm just going to remove what integrity is does have" is a dumb justification. Dude just wanted attention.
@elin111 You just asked "How do you confirm that EVERYONE was already spying and datamining...etc" thats the point is if ONLY some of them are doing it, THAT is the unfair advantage. Knowing each other's decklist doesnt escape them from one another's pure skill advantage, in fact I would argue having hidden decklists is just a competitive gimmick to make things more interesting in a moral world but in the immoral reality we live in, people will unfairly gain more info than others. DKayed isn't wrong, just saying. I think being upset that you don't have more leeway to abuse the system is weird. Just my opinion 🤷♂️
Are the players required to go to the website? If steroids are ruining baseball, then he offered steroids for all, that means he became a public provider of steroids and makes those secret providers somewhat obsolete. The question is, would you, as a player, take that free steroids or not? If you take it, the game will lose its integrity and if no one takes it, it will just strengthen the integrity of the game. That's the better logic to put it. Dkayed did a bad take with the leak looking like a God because he evened the playing field with the leak but actually he is a snake that offers the players to commit a sin.
I remember listening to a podcast talking to one of the top participants, and they put it pretty succinctly. If the players knew their decks would be public knowledge, they would have done their deck building differently. If players choose not to run, say, Gamma, on a general basis, people outside their team would know that. They’d constantly be wondering “when are they gonna drop Gamma on me? I have to play around it until I’m sure they don’t have it”
@@Zzz-j2f Or just make Deck List public after submission. Lock them into whatever they decide to play and their 15 card side deck and let RNGsus take the wheel.
@Zzz-j2f let's just agree it's both dkayed and konamis felt. Honestly people shouldn't just be mad at him but also at konami and the competitive players too
There is some misinformation, the decks weren't available before the tournament because the replays in masterduel were needed to get the decklists, that's why people say that they used untapped, because the program reads the file of the replay and shows you the decklist, and the person needed to play with the deck for him to post it in his website that's why not all decks are there. And also Jesse Kotton said in his stream after worlds that they knew about the decklists in master duel meta after round 2 (5 rounds total day 1). The response of dkayed to Judeu looked kinda bad but he wasn't wrong in his assumption, because in judeu's stream he said that everyone does it and is not cheating is 'scouting', while dkayed never used the word cheating or cheater in the clip.
I kind of agree with him though. If he was able to get this information, so can many other players in the competition. Giving information out so everyone is free to see it without needing to datamine putting everyone on an equal playing field seems fair. It would be better if the data wasn't available at all to anyone but it's because it is available exclusively to the people able to datamine that making it public to everyone makes it fair.
you do realize what dkayed still did is wrong & that he is probably gonna get banned at this point since he already had a tcg suspension with konami prior which did nothing since he never plays in the tcg and is just stuck being a manipulative streamer in duel links & master duel its honestly amazing how many simps he has got still considering the drama he caused & finished with coder prior
Maybe its because the community don't care man. The Championship prize at Yugioh Worlds not even good anymore. Alot of Yugioh fans dont care too much anymore. Also I dont fully disagree with what he did and the reason being thathe did infact took away the advantage of those who would of got the info of other peoples decks secretly. Regardless.. the results haven't changed because Jesse Cotton is still winning at worlds. The winners still the same people.@@BinarySorcerer69
@@KyoAlexiel Yeah because the game is a stagnant, stupid mess. It barely gets new players, especially compared to MtG and Pokemon. No one wants to play this overly complicated, powercrept, expensive garbage game when there are way better and easier alternatives to get into. The playerbase is an ever dwindling subset of 30 year olds at this point. The 'community' of whiny pro players are these people. Sunk cost fallacy 2strong.
If Dkayed had credible reason to believe that private groups were using the same exploit he used to feed decklists to specific teams through discords with intent to gain advantage, he should've presented his evidence alongside doing what he did. I personally think uniform information distribution is better than only a handful of teams gaining an advantage even if "open decklist" formats are fundamentally antithetical to what competitive yugioh is where you're constantly making educated guesses based on incomplete information. Master Duel just flat out shouldn't allow APIs to scrape lists during the World Qualifiers or Playoffs season either imo. Dkayed engagement farming afterwards certainly didn't help matters either.
@GAMEFAN27he doesn't need to have a point though, he saw an issue and used the means available to him to take actions, you guys are the ones looking for explanations
@@GAMEFAN27 or do it himself, and that is the option he decided to take. Just a side note, do you guys really believe he hasn't tried reporting something that he personally knows has been going on for over a decade? Do you really think Konami cares if he doesn't like it??
N3sh was right about his concern on the integrity of the tournament. A lot of the people who competed also has admitted it has helped them more than harm them. Jesse even said he knew who to take the maxx c challenge on because he knew who had no payoffs for it. MDG said it was more helpful than harmful. As for the Asian players who probably had no idea about this? We have to get some perspective about that but they have to be pissed about this
Simply put, it doesn't really matter where the info could have come from - what matters is Dkayed pulled the trigger, on a completely whimsical guess that it was happening at all. He who shoots first is not to be praised, in this case.
but the info was already available before, he just posted it to a much more known site (which apaprently he owns or something?) than where it was. so he wasn't the first to *shoot* if I understand all of this right.
@@timihari I don't really know a lot of details, i'm just calling it as I see it It's still BS he pulled it at all, to make such a wildly executive decision like that
@@KingRoni1222 I only know what I read about it today, but apparently some people have been reporting this issue to the unplugged app (where you could look at anyones in-game deck) for a long time and they did nothing about it. So it's not too out there that some players (especially the ones sponsored by unplugged) have known about this and might have been abusing it. So technically, he removed their unfair advantage by making sure everyone knows everyones deck. It might have ruined this WCS (a bit), but it made sure the future ones can't be cheated on, as unplugged has now fixed the issue immediately. I'm sure that wasn't his reason for it, he probably just wanted more advertising for his website and more views on YT though. On a related note, I wish decklists were public like in some other TCGs. I think it would make for a more interesting game, knowing what you're going against. Quite a few players said after the event that knowing all the decks helped them play better, strategize better and so on.
Agree maybe it would have matter 10 years ago but today what kind of advantage do i get from knowing that my opponent plays snake eye, the game is based on playing a board that doesnt let the opponent play on turn 1 and maybe drawing the out on turn 2.
That is a very stupid thing to say. It is a big deal. A decklist is private knowlege. Not public knowledge. The only people that are supposed to have knowledge of your decklist are you and the Official Konami Judges. If other players know, then it ruins the integrity of the tournament and it creates an unfair advantage. You clearly have never played in a tournament. So you wouldn't understand.
@@Real_Infinity95 Where is the unfair advantage if every participant had their decks leaked? Now everybody knows what the other player is playing. Everybody is in an even field.
@@carlosbarreto9015 The Players aren't supposed to have that information. Don't you get it? It's cheating. Why do you think people are getting mad at DKhayed? Because he posted information that is supposed to be private knowledge.
@@Real_Infinity95 in that case they shouldnt be allowed to show duels on streams in live events because you get the disadvantage of other players knowing your deck while theirs isnt known.
no one is forcing them to go to that site and see the decks. Its like getting mad that youtube for having a video or clip spoiling a movie you really wanted to see in theaters. no one force you to click on the video and spoil it. Is it a dk move yes but nothing you can do about it. just dont watch it. By that logic. I hate when social media spoiled deadpool and wolverine and I hadnt seen it on opening day. Should I ask youtube to remove all the clips and reviews.
If you protect your own experience of watching a movie blind then that's the end of it. In a competition your opponents can still look up leaks and use the information against you. You have to deal with it even if you did everything right yourself. Imagine if you didn't go to watch the movie spoilers and someone who did came and yelled out the twist ending to mess with you. It'd be weird if you complained about it and someone tried to blame you for going to the site when it was the other guy making it your problem, right?
Dkayed's response being the requivalent of "Get over it bro" says a lot about his attitude. He just went "I have authority to decide for everyone else without their consent because I said so cry about it".
@@seddyx8994 The proper response is to humiliate him (and his fan boys) in the most discreet way possible. That's what others in a completely different fandom did to a Haru Akashimoto
UntappedGG was the reason why the decklists became public knowledge. Just because the lists were posted on MDM, doesn’t mean dkayed was hacking into their accounts to steal decklists. It doesn’t matter if it was posted to YGOorg, or whatever. The info was already public.
idk, I like what he did. In Pokemon, you know the opponents team, in sports you know the other teams strength and weaknesses, etc I get that a surprise factor (luck) on top of the draws (luck again) may help people get wins, but in theory, if you both know your decks, you know what to play around and how to strategize. I think that makes matches more interesting than not. The playing field is even.
I've said for almost a year ago he was a fraud for thing for things like this. Before the leaks were more for future sets and whenever he was wrong he never took any accountability. and 7:10 that way he defends his actions is so low class. and now he's in hot water and is getting his karma.
The fanboys in the comment section are strong. Still what he did was sbsoluteky disgusting and yuined a crucial part of the game, the information game to coordinate a 3v3 riedovering your opponent decklist and the hideen weapons and weaknesses of every deck list. I really hope konami gives him some legal consequences this time because enst he did is objectively wrong even if he's such an entitled and tixic streamer that can do no wrong to get thise sweet sweet minutes of content and donations
So you're okay with some people knowing what others' decks are but not with everyone knowing, how is that fair? I don't particularly like Dkayed but this video is just talking nonsense.
Yugioh content creators always side with the competitive players, no surprise. I genuinely respect Dkayed for creating even conditions, and the fact those people are as pissed off, proves he did the right thing by exposing them.
OMG ash, ghostbell, nibiru amd imperm alongside meta decks like snake eyes and flowanderese? Who could have guessed this? Jokes aside i defintely get why this is a heated debate but at the same time it just feels like this blew open a longstanding issue that never got adressed yet everyone already disliked. Besides yugioh is hardly suprising. Its just memorising in what order you want to trigger the negates and is mostky decided by cointoss and starting hand, aka luck and a ton kf negates to play through
When Dkayed was trying to justify what he did, he forgot something: this alters THE GAME BEING PLAYED. This is similar to being forced into a new format right before worlds in the Pokemon VGC (main series Video Games) format before 2023. Not as much of a change, but in competitive, my counterpoint is that it was something they had to prepare for, Yu-Gi-Oh has a ban list instead of rotating cards, and as such as PART OF THE GAME'S DESIGN hidden tech cards are fair play. By showing deck lists, you invalidated almost all of the hard work for those techs, and I'm sure it took a long time to reach out everything. If time is money, DKayed is in debt
@@kappadarwin9476and him defending himself saying some players had their own team that would have studied the decklist so it's in his rights to monetize the info of others for personal gain
Something about Dkayed never sat right with me because he would always get pissy with newbie players to Duel Links coming into his chat asking for advice... Something i've experienced first hand. I always just chalked it up to "he has a website, any questions could be answered there" but as time went on and the more streams i watched, the man has an ego that's gone unchecked for way to long. The audacity to think that you have the right to basically violate someone's privacy unchecked and unpunished.. And the people coming to defend him just because the list on on untapped or whatever, that doesn't make it ok for someone to just undermine the authority of Konami at an event as important as the World Championship. Like at some point he had to have known that what he was doing wasn't right.
He did what an outlaw does, screw the rules because those who are sponsored likely use to cheat their way to knowing plus it’s leak and he himself saw the issue and use it against them
EXACTLY dkayed ought to own up to his own mistakes and his own downfall is he wil never do such a thing because he thinks he is just too good not admit to his own faults at all
magic the gathering has dealt with this for years on MtGO for years. You can just scrape your opponent's decklists from almost any site connected to it. I would bet both my nuts, allof these hardcore competitors have been doing the same thing. It's like counting cards in Poker, it's against the rules but can't be proven and if you aren't, you're going to lose. Edit: In comp. paper magic, you have to submit your decklist for all to see because what Dkayed is describing is called scouting. It happens and it gives well connected players an insane advantage against those who don't have friends scouting other people's decks. What he did was expose a massive problem that the other comp players wouldn't admit because it would hurt their results.
Dkayed is wrong to leak decklists & the players who try outside methods to gain knowledge on opponents decks are also wrong & Konami is also wrong to allow decklists to be freely read during Worlds. Everyone sucks in the situation, but 2 wrongs don't make a right. Dkayed is an a-hole scapegoating his bad actions by saying the equivalent of "It's okay because other people do it and Konami is incompetent."
as much as i like seeing people complain about konami i don't think this is konami's fault, at least the majority of the blame shouldn't be put on them. people will leak information for any game. it's one thing to leak future products but to ruin the experience for people who worked so hard to get to the position they're in is just simply indefensible especially when it comes to his reasoning. if you think someone is cheating then report them so they can be properly punished for it, why is it ok to allow everyone to have access to the information the cheater had? that's not "making things fair" that's changing the landscape of the entire competition.
It's Konami's fault because their game sends the information with the full decklists to the game client when opening replays, which a 3rd party app that sponsored some of the players in this tournament was able to read. It's impossible to know who cheats in this way because you can have a friend use the exploit and just email the decklists to you. Anyone that knows about the exploit(and this type of information spreads fast) and has at least one friend will be able to get the information anyway and it will be impossible to detect.
Dkayed has, over, stayed his welcome in the game in general, Like when, will konami perma-ban him from master duel, and duel links clearly dkayed is so delusional like look at 6:35 in video to get a reference on how delusional he can be at the bare minimum, and the guy is just such a manipulative person to where coder got banned back in the day for dkayed just having beef with the guy, and got manipulative with to convince konami otherwise not to mention all the dkayed followers that think he is always in the right no matter what he does just because he is that manipulative of a person, and yet he has gotten away with, so god-damn much to where konami suspended him from tcg play cool still doesn't change anything since dkayed mainly does duel links and master duel so that suspension was pointless in the fact it quite literally did nothing at all like if konami were really to do something about dkayed they would find a way to where he is permabanned on master duel and duel links that way he would have nothing left to do with the game, and we could be rid of this nightmare as is
Im not a big fan of dkayed. It's foul to show off tournament decks. Honestly, konami should start striking his videos at this point. Showing off a deck AFTER a tournament is fine. But during is uncalled for.
Worst part about all this is how chill everyone is about people cheating. Instead of trying to stop it, they rather everyone cheat. Its literally the same argument some idiots brought up a few times in community tournaments when they get caught cheating, about people using cheats to see facedowns, top decks and cards in hand, "because some people use it, everyone should use it", bunch of idiots...
He did nothing wrong there is nothing bad about it he even does konami's job i know this guy even does what konami should be doing to promote the game he even helps the players to not waste their gems telling us what comes next i don't get why they get so mad at him
What’s even worse about it for me is that a few years ago I built a deck and shared it with the guy and he took credit for it. Now he is in for this whole fiasco. Honestly he deserves it. He deserves all of the backlash. He did something that ruined the integrity of what all of us Yu-Gi-Oh players have worked so hard to create. I used to be a fan of his a long time ago but after what he did with that deck list and stealing credit for it I just simply gave up on him. I was thinking just let him have it now. Eventually karma will get him. I guess all of those years of spite have finally payed off. And if anyone was wondering what deck I was referring to it was an old Duel Links deck. I have stopped playing Duel Links since then so I don’t really care as much. It was a Wind Up OTK deck that used Overwind, Spikeshield With Chain, and Concentrating Current to OTK. For early Duel Links it was extremely powerful. But he made a video on it and took credit for the list that I sent in. It was so long ago that I don’t care as much anymore.
I was fine with it since he owned up to it being a stunt to drive more traffic to his site. But then he started gaslighting his whole army of children by telling them "Actually they should be thanking me, I did them all a favor. Also, this player calling me out is a cheater!" If he truly did that to even the playing field, he would've waited until he had all the deck lists available. Which most definitely wasn't the case.
To be fair large companies typically offer 'bounties' for uncovering an exploit like this. I wonder why Untapped was so angry, could it be that they already knew about it?
His justification is just an excuse. He posted it for attention, because he DOESN'T care. He just isn't a big enough man to admit he did it for attention and money.
I am glad he did it, i bet some players knew of this exploit and had friends doing the dirty job for them already, explains why Judeo got so mad (sponsored by untapped btw)
Why does this matter? You could say that konami wants the decklist to be secret but so? If a small group of people were gonna cheat anyway why not make it open. Most games have moved towards this model anyway and knowing your opponents decklist does change the way the game is played but if you can't tech in new cards before the event to counter then it's not really a problem. The more skilled players will still win
The information wasn't obtained illegally. The information was publicly accessible. I see nothing wrong. If this was already public then the informed and best duelists were already using it. Rather than individuals having an edge on other individuals, no one has an edge as everyone has the information.
if there's one thing i can say about dkayed is his ability to be such an unlikable person no matter his stance is impressive; he just thinks he's always right even when he's obviously in the wrong and having such an obnoxious sense of self entitlement like that is impressive to some extent. hell, the guy could be advocating for world peace and his arrogant mightier than thou attitude would still make me dislike him.
Getting banned means nothing today. The tournament structure isn’t truly competitive and the prizing isn’t worth it. He’ll make more money from UA-cam than winning a YCS anyway.
not if they permaban him from master duel & duel links & anything yugioh related like i get where your coming from unlike the dkayed simps in the comments here but let me ask you what does dkayed even do at that point if dkayed is permabanned from master duel & duel links & sure why not extend his suspension on tcg to a permaban as well plus if konami really wanted to make sure he does nothing yugioh related again they would probably also send him a c&d order or maybe even get his channel and website taken down as well as dkayed should honestly not be allowed to have anything to do with yugioh anymore as is like in all honesty I'm more surprised konami hasn't already done this prior given dkayed as done some messed up stuff previously as well & i do mean more than just product leaks if anything konami has so much dirt on dkayed I wouldn't be surprised if he practically loses everything possibly in the next month of anything and everything of yugioh he does or has done
@@BinarySorcerer69 never heard of punctuation, huh? like holy shit, that's a diarrhea of words... anyway, konami can't really do anything about it as he did nothing illegal if I understand what happened correctly.
@@BinarySorcerer69 Yeah so I won't bother reading all that, learn about punctuation. Just real quick, they can't send a c&d, ban his channel or take his website down. Konami isn't some all powerful god, they can't do shit. Hope that helps
@@erickkisreal9398 To Konami Dkayed is a legally active 3rd party whose providing a service to their customers, for them to use money and resources in attempt to directly harm such a party is simply in no way beneficial for the company. Not to say there is nothing they can do but the 'solutions' Cap is mentioning here are not it
To Konami Dkayed is a legally active 3rd party whose providing a service to their customers, for them to use money and resources to directly harm such a party is simply bad business. Not to say that there's nothing they can do but the 'solutions' Cap is mentioning here are not it
@@justsomeguy727 I am being serious, I am not defending Dkayed whatsoever, I'm simply looking at the situation from a business perspective. I can't estimate what kind of loss they would suffer trying to shut him down but what company actively pursues a loss of any kind
I chewed on this a lot since there's arguments to both sides, but ultimately I side with this being bogus. His argument is partially based on an assuming (someone calling foul), and even *if* people do this, it's not as though it's done before the event even started. Not to mention -- he's not even a part of it. If he wanted change, this was a horrible way to go about it. If Konami *does* do something about, congrats, I guess -- but the bottom line is he inserted himself in something he had no part in and tainted the game beyond what people were (allegedly) already doing.
The way dkayed adressed the issue was definitely wrong, trying to seem like he is doing a righteuos thing, but i also wouldnt call what he did wrong. If they were able to access the decklists without any illegal activities involved, then the competitors would have been able to do the same, if they knew how to do so. So while it isnt exactly nice, i dont see a problem with publishing already publicly accessable information.
He already has the data of people who compete in his tournaments and what decks are most popular. Even if he didn’t leak a person's deck specifically, everyone would still have access to how every deck play with a variance of 1 - 5 cards. You either play the meta or a meta counter.
Dkayed is literally Camula. Guess everybody from now on will have to pull a jaden and "bring something bright" to their duels. Joke aside there is no such thing as leveling the playing field in this game or in any game. Not all competitors are at the same skill level, rich enough to afford the best cards/best decks nor are all competitors at their very best on the day of the event or even during matches, not all competitors are fit physically,emotionally or mentally, or even treated well by the tournament staff. The very idea that him leaking decklists before the event fixes this is laughable. I find it to be in very poor taste, ruins the surprised factor (especially when everybody plays basically the same deck to the point u can quote the bare minimum from memory) both for the players as well as the spectators. The hype/best moments in this game are always the WOW factors, the big surprise factors, be it Exodia, yugi ritual summoning BLS, all the way to ancient gear performing very well in a tier 0 format. Finally Konami needs to go after him to the extreme degree. The same way they went after duelingbook/dueling network (GO FULL NINTENDO, Seize his site, pay fines and all), put things in place such that this doesn't happen again and probably develop their own site that they can use to enable people to register their decks for tournaments. Compile the decklist and release them after the tournament.
I'm surprised no one caught that. Dkayed is giving people information on the decks their opponent is using down to the cards they use. Its cheating plan and simple. Shark got DQ'd for looking at Quattro's deck.
@@kappadarwin9476 Were u referring to my GX reference? GX has ended almost 13yrs now,not surprised people didn't catch it.I forgot about shark DQ. Thanks for reminding me. Let's be real if someone did the same thing as pegasus and sector security officer and spied on the opponent's hand and released said info. It will be the same as any other form of cheating.
THE DECKLISTS WERENT LEAKED BEFORE THE EVENT. Capitalg is dummy for even saying this. The decks were leaked from viewing the replays via untapped. How can you have replays before the event started?
At the end at the end of the day, DKayed is right, people that are in worlds, actually looks at replays to see what their opponents play, he himself have done it. Pretty simple.
Leaking doesn’t really hurt 99.9% of players 😂😂😂 smh 🤦I agree bc it would lvl the playing field especially if others have the same ability to leak info he just did it first and got shit for it
As someone who plays a few other tcg's and the fact that tapped out released it first, dk did nothing wrong. Make the game open sheet like every other tcg and take away the popularity factor for informatkon gathering. The game should be about skill expression and not cheese factor
Lol, most people are piling on Dkayed. Not like he wasn't an outcast of community before (by his choice), there's just more reason for people to get their cut at him and more reason for him to do what he does.
His response was trash but the information was available before he posted it. There was already a way to obtain this information. So this issue was an issue rather he posted it or not.
Honestly, Dkayed has a good point there. If he can get the decklists, plenty of competitors could as well. In which case the integrity mentioned is ruined by players willing to peak gaining an advantage over players that think it's unfair and choose not to.
Untapped sponsored some of these players.
Some of those same players mad Dkayed’s site posted Untapped’s data. Obviously no one will admit to scouting at Worlds but Dkayed admits it happens.
Untapped backpedaling saying it was never meant to be used that way.
Me on the sidelines watching: 👀 🍿
To be fair to Untapped they never backpedaled. They basically said the way their app was used goes against their philosophy and purpose for the tool. Which is absolutely true to my knowledge. I use untapped to view my own decklists and game stats but I never considered that it could be used to cheat in a tournament because it’s never been advertised as that type of product.
The issue there is scouting is not prohibited, does it give some players an advantage, yes 100%, but it's not against the rules, handing someone their opponents entire deck list, while they have no clue, is an issue, scouting is an entirely different problem
yeeeeesh, I just got back into YUGIOH via Master Duel a year or two ago. Hadn't touched it since my bro died and its pretty different for sure. I could understand if it was the TCG, but where the game is at theses days I would consider it mostly solved and that would be mitigated with the availability of cards to players.
@mammothslayerentertainment8260 that would be fine if these decks were more predictable, the issue for the world championship is its a 3v3 and teams share a card pool, only 3 cards designated can be played in all decks, so if your deck hard loses to something like nibiru, in a regular match you have to keep that in mind, when you know that the deck your playing against doesn't have nibiru, you no longer have to play around them having it
dkayed didnt leak any decks or post them or tell anyone to get leaks
if data is available, then everyone should have it. maybe Konami should do a better job hiding the deck lists
The live data for the players hand is available to Konami. By your logic, should Konami just let both players view each others hands? Yugioh players at that level would be able to tell who wins with just a glance.
Why even play the game. Just play rock paper scissors for about 30 minutes and call it a day.
@@StormCrownSr available means that the data is already available on the internet, bruh no one want's this shit, but the data was leaked by some stupid sponsored malware app players install in their pc to monitor their decks, so they leaked that data, the payers allowed the app to steal their decks.
@sepheiba Maybe people should just not leak shit for once in their lives... It's not hard to just not do something. It's funny how you people bitch at Konami but you don't say a word about the people that were leaking it before Dkayed posted it. Konami aren't the only ones that need to stop their bs.
@@Raytheharbinger0 the data was leaked by upper deck, it was already available on the internet. do you want to say a word to upper deck? please go ahead. Pro players will probably uninstall that spyware, and upper deck will make sure to not make data available without players' consent. this talk is not gonna change anything.
@@StormCrownSr /woooooosh
Untapped reads out decks in replays, therefore you can have the deck list. So either, Untapped managed to replicate the entire deck for whatever reason OR the decks data is actually stored in the replay. Either way, THAT has to get fixed, period. OP literally just stated: Don't shoot the messenger.
I'm very confused here. Didn't dkayed get the decklist from untapped
Why is he getting all the blame when the decks were already public knowledge to begin with
The difference is he went and grabbed everyone’s deck list and basically said “hey loook here’s the information on everyone” instead of having people do it themselves. so instead of a handful of people using the site now everyone knows
@Hibiki_Io not "instead of everyone else". He did it cause some players have connections to find the decks, while others do NOT. When you leak all the Decks, you equalize for those players that may not have the connections to get the Decka
@@winniebeats5164 I’m sorry no. When everyone knows what everyone plays it makes the game meta gamie. if I know my opponent doesn’t play nib I no longer have to play around the possibility. It makes counter play much less effective too. just because “some people” go around and destroy the integrity of a game doesn’t give one person the right to screw over everyone.
People will know regardless the second they start playing the first 3 cards
I mean, even Untapped made a statement saying what dkayed did was not how the site was to be used, outright saying it was a promotion for cheating.
So even Untapped is calling out dkayed for what he did.
Damn, this dude is Bandit Keith in reverse.
Htiek Tidnab?
@@hasshenjo6416 🤣🤣🤣 No, what I mean is while Bandit Keith pretty much keeps his cheating on the Down low, This guy makes no secret that he's trying to be slick. He just sugar coats it with "oh I'm doing y'all a favor."
@@Robin-Lynn yeah ik lol I just wanted to make a joke
He hates America?
More like weevil, just like the insect he is
Apparently he was able to leak the deck list using the program Untapped, which usually tells you stats wnd ehatever is left in your deck, but it does the same thing for replays too. Untapped got really pissed about this and had to put an entire blog about it and how their program is in no way a way to cheat
Until they share the info to their sponsored participants.
People being mad is just typical yugioh elitism.
Its bad but people can’t say Dkayed is linked to Uptapped when it’s a separate program that he’s not associated with unlike MDM which is his but I still don’t agree with using any program during a major event
@@DmrXGeneral Wasn't he sponsored by Untapped?
No. Dkayed wasn't sponsored by untapped by Judeu and N3sh were. Doesn't justify Dkayed's actions but at least untapped fixed it.
And 2 of the finalists had Untapped and the other 2 didn't so they knew their opponents deck then Dkayed gave the decks away for an even playing field and Untapped had to apologize for "glitch"
Soooo its cool when top players know but when everyone knows its bad? Thats some bitch shit right there.
Exactly
it's not about "everyone shouldn't have rights for decklist" it's more like a competitive spirit during the tournament. it incentivizing players who plays in the tournament originally wants to play fair, to look at other's decklist fully displayed, instead of doing observation, tabulating datas or some shit on their own
It literally is an unfair advantage that sabotaged the intent behind why tech choices were made. Also ALL the players there are top players. You are being dishonest.
Facts
@@rizreighnand6471competitive spirit my ass😂 all of those contestants have man behind desk
Isn’t Dkayed known for leaking things before Konami does?
Yes. That is why he is banned from official play.
He was known as the Yugioh Master Duel Soothsayer.
I mean, he and his team are the reason that Konami is now forced to announce future packs before he leaks them, and that helps players so that they don't waste their resources in cards that might get powercrept the next pack.
Tell me you didn't pay attention to the video without telling me you didn't pay attention to the video.
He literally stated that in the first few mins of the post…
Konami provided replays : CHECK.
untapped is a legal app: CHECK.
Players are able to use it to get decklists legally: CHECK.
Dkayed doing what everyone else could be doing already: Suddenly an issue? HUH?
Clearly a case of Paper players wanting MD to be as garbage as Physical....
Imaginr being brainrot this hard
@@grimrapper5202 the irony of your own comment lol
At least write properly. You managed to only have 75% of the points for a 5 word sentence.
At least learn how to formulate an argument before replying with your actual brainrot...
There is a difference between in-tournament information gathering, which is a part of this kind of tournament in general, and leaking everything before a single match is played.
As someone who follows Pokemon tournaments a lot, it’s up to you tu figure out who is friend with someone you’ve already played and might know your strategy, or, if you played a gane on stream, it’s up to you to adapt to the fact that others have seen your game plan and try to use it against them.
But making it so the very first match played has been played defeats the whole point of that.
I'm subscribed to both capG and Dkayed. I think it's disingenuous to not talk about HOW Dkayed got the deck lists and whether that information was already public. This very much frames it as Dkayed is some sort of master hacker spy man who obtained the deck lists mysteriously and posted them. If a guy with a popular website posts already public information for money and attention, I don't see the problem. Everyone crying about morality and integrity can go interview the participants and see how many of them admit to looking through the deck-lists leaks.
If all the participants are playing fairly like they say they are, then the "leaks" had no affect on the participants.
Once the leaks are out you have to assume everyone will look through them so you don't wanna be at a disadvantage
I find it hypocritical to boast fairness, but not even mention Untapped's response to this, how dkayed abused a function to promote cheating using information that should not have been distributed at the time.
Untapped has already said that this was an oversight they've corrected and taken measures to fix it. Meanwhile dkayed is doubling down on the "Not my fault" mentality
@@ProtossTempest it was still public, there's also the fact numerous player are actually sponsored by untapped, so there will always be a conflict of interests
@@ProtossTempest I could care less about fairness. I wouldn't care if Dkayed came out and said he just did it to be spiteful. That doesn't concern me lol. I'm just saying CapG is covering this in a disingenuous way, leaving out key information about the source of the deck lists.
Again, If a guy with a popular website posts already public information for money and attention, I don't see the problem.
@@ProtossTempestIf Dkayed is the one that is making untapped change the way they operate isn't he the good guy??... if people were already using untapped to cheat and dkayed made it so where EVERYONE can cheat and now untapped is going to make it so NOBODY can cheat... Didn't Dkayed do a necessary evil??? I'm just playing devil's advocate
Why’s there so many people screaming at Dkayed for essentially exposing Untapped for being a way to cheat? From what I’m reading in other comments and all it even sounds like some of the big players who were sponsored had highlighted the ability to see that stuff on their channel before and nobody said anything. Is Dkayed just…hated for other reasons and people are just screaming at him cause they have some salt or anger about something else he’s said or done? Cause not only is it a stupid double standard, if Untapped didn’t mean for people getting to see the decklists of others, it wouldn’t be information left on their site. It wouldn’t be available until after the event, so it sounds to me like they sponsor cheaters actively and get a cut of the rewards or get more site traffic due to sponsoring a big winning player. Now they’re angry they were caught out and were trying to cover their asses, and Dkayed is a convenient scapegoat so they can’t be accused as a way to cheat or have their sponsored players called into question
Yet Cimoooo gets 0 love from Konami because he called out bad business practices years ago.
@@DeusLightning dry
It's because he pushes content about yu gi oh Golden Age instead of playing the awful current meta
Because he play on DB
@@M.W.2 yet he wins tourneys kekw, you're just sheep licking konami's boots. some people should have the right to knowledge. what is your solution then, cause even if it didn't happen what dkayed did: it's not stopping the ones who still knows the other people's side.
@@olyviermonteau4300damn @M.W.2, what did you do to this guy?
This is a "you can't see the forest for the trees" argument.
1) Neither Dkayed nor any single individual should dictate how a tournament goes, it was 100% incorrect action.
2) Judeo is sponsored by Untapped, so it's really hard to believe they didn't already use it before the leaks. Even still, just the knowledge of the app would incentivize every team to look for it so they are not the only ones at a disadvantage. There is no way to prove which players used it and this shouldn't be the point anyway.
3) The Pokemon solution is "open team sheets" with every decklist given to the opponents. It would be great if it had been known beforehand, altering the deckbuilding process entirely. Leaks would become obsolete, however, we are missing the excitement of unknown interactions (as viewers), while the players aren't rewarded for playing around potential interruptions. Prime examples here are Gamma, Nibiru, and Talent which are by far the most affected cards where a player would perform an entirely different sequence if they weren't informed of the full decklists.
4) The "bad" solution would be to monitor player contact during Day 1, so players won't be informed of potential leaks. It is a bit drastic compared to the previous solution, but at least it guarantees everyone will be on the same playfield. Informing your teammates on tech choices is perfectly fine. But even without Untapped, you and I could have written down as much of the decklists as possible and then dm them to our favorite player, so in the end we face the same issue that shouldn't exist in the first place.
5) This is an issue that happens IRL as well, with scouting being extremely prevalent during the later rounds of Regis/Nats/YCSs. There have been countless times people looking over during siding, where they practically see the entire decklist and then can inform their friends. Ignoring this and putting all the blame on Dkayed is hiding our heads in the sand.
6) Again, I consider this a horrible action because Konami through the replay system hid the decklists so they were never intended to be public during the event. And NONE yugituber/influencer/player/3rd party has the right to decide whether to publish them or not. But since this already happened, instead of focusing on the morality of said action (it was outright bad, no question here) we should focus on protecting those players and their efforts by preventing this situation entirely.
Words
Judeu probably went ballistic BECAUSE he was using it. Dkayed took his advantage away.
@@geek593 you are accusing him of cheating with absolutely no evidence other than he was paid to promote a service. Dkayed data mined that service to steal the lists. Simply using untapped as it was intended would not have afforded the user the ability to see their opponents list ahead of time. Untapped have decried Dkayed actions and so should you.
@@Novahawk12 recently though there have been cases of cheating in yugioh
@@olyviermonteau4300 there have always been cases of cheating in any game. All should be looked down upon. what's your point?
This whole situation feels like we're placing the play all the blame on one person and letting the other big problems get away. Also, when it comes to the situation, i don't see how this effect the competition unless there was already a cheater among them, but also knowing the deck list can only help so much in this competition when alot of them had a big gap in skill between players.
Exactly
Talking about one problem isn't ignoring the others. If we can't call out a problem like this one, then we can't call out any other issues either.
And though you may be right about how this actually affects the tournament, the fact remains that it was NOT DKyed's decision to make in the first place.
@SkyReaperOne I might have worded it badly but I was talking more about the other to problems in this situation being the leaker (Untapped) who was already providing this information before him and Konami with their security problems.
you can only be responsible for your own actions. In this regard Dkayed is responsible for sabotaging the integrity of a world championship event.
Said skill is just reading how a card works so that you don't make a :0 face when a bad decision backfires because you didn't read.
This was unironically a win. Had some people but not everyone known there was a data leak there would have been some real questions about the integrity of the event. Giving everyone access to avoid only a few having illicit access is great. This is why most games have open lists for their highest competitive events.
I agree with that sentiment. I do understand why people are mad but if you think about it, if Dkayed didn't do it people would never know that it could be done and the problem would never be solved. Let's be honest too, someone was probably already doing it from behind doors and informing their competitor.
I agree with this for the most part. Not only that but he’s a content creator not a Konami employee or an event judge. He had content, so he posted it which makes perfect sense.
However, his response to allege that a current competitor is a cheater without any evidence was bad taste. It only made him look extremely scummy imo. Though I do think he makes great content for the game and positively contributes in many other ways.
@@markdeth9130I dont think dkayed said that the competitor was a cheater but that top players have advantages due to privilege resources like having a team working for you ( if he did call someone a cheater, my mistake i only saw this video lol) ultimately i think top players will complain because they always complain when they lose and dkayed is given them an outlet to. what dekayed leak is not a big deal, but top players will always complain, its in their competitive nature
There are 3 parties at fault here.
Dkayde, the team that made the system used to get the lists and Konami for having all lists in replays and unencrypted
I think this feels like deflection. If the leak is not from him, but a continuation of the leak, then attacking him and not the leak is a personal attack, not a request to avoid the situation. Is deck being leaked to participants bad? Yes, doesn't take a TCG champion to know this is shit, I come with the age Duel Masters, the parody show of all TCG, literally made an episode how leaking someone's deck made him lose all matches all of a sudden. It can easily turn decks meant to confuse the opponent on what the build is absolutely useless, and avoids the opponent wasting chain breaks on things he knows it's not the engine or the core of the deck.
Is pointing out that there is a leak of this deck by posting the full leak bad? If the leak iself is not fixed, no, it's a whistleblowing.
You contradicted your own argument with the very next sentence @9:00.
You said that everyone competing knew about the list and it had become like steroids in baseball. Then your follow on sentence was that he ruined the integrity of the event. The integrity is already gone.
Dudes intentions were probably for clout/money, but this definitely put pressure on Konami to tighten up their security.
I disagree with you. He really did level the playing field as you know at this top level there are players that have their friends and family feed them information between rounds.
This argument is disingenious because it's not ruining shit. You can watch all the match starting from day 1 to see the decks being used, let alone all decks in it were tier 0 which requires the same synergistic cards that all netdecks of the same deck would carry. Snake Eyes is Snakes Eyes and running optimal cards regardless if he throws in one or two card that are different. Every tournament deck ran 3 Maxx C's, 3 Ashes, 2 Called By the Grave, and Effect veilers. That's not even talking about Imperm, callout, and other cards mandatory for meta. That's almost half the main deck. Once your put creatures in you already know what the rest is. The only downside is the extra deck which even then most of that shit is same. You aren't surprised when Snake Eyes puts out Princess, or a Baronne. Nothing was harmed in this. This is just tradition of YGO online tournaments having non-sense controversy because it's what the scene is known for.
If you're going to say it hurt the tournament, you need to show specific games were people did different plays that they otherwise wouldn't have because of the knowledge of their opponents deck. You can't because that's not how YGO works at a tier 0 format. You play the same end game and dare your opponent to stop you.
I think one thing that can help the game is if the winner of the game’s biggest official tournaments had the option to have their own custom card be made an official release for the actual TCG/OCG (Similar to what MTG does). It would be both an AMAZING reward AND those cards could end up being staples for the game in ways Konami would never make their cards to be by themselves.
me spending 3,000 bucks to build a tier 0 deck so i can finally force konami to make cyber dragon support that isn't awful
Players should have no say when it comes to creating cards just saying
@@jimmygudiel3007 Your honor I need a Cyber Dragon retrain like Harpie Ladies got. Give them a good effect to help the deck PLEAAAA
It can be done, but the process needs oversight. The X-Wing miniatures game did this. The world champ would work with the design team to make new pieces. The key word is with. The final results were balanced, for the game.
Nice to see you again Fire.
@@gmradio2436
A pleasure to be back radio. Always happy to chime in.
Wasn't the information already public? Dkayed just made it more public like I don't think he leaked it first.
He literally did, they weren't public they were hidden in a way that was accidentally accessible. It's the equivalent of saying your medical records are public because if I walk behind the counter at your doctor's office I could just take your files and look at them.
@@nykthosacolyte5710comparing a decklist for a children's game compared to locked up medical records is such a great comparison. Brain rot
@@jasonchang6159 not comparing the two comparing the type of PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE they are. EVERYONE understands your medical records are private, and that if someone wanted to any random person could see SOME medical records by doing stuff they aren't supposed to. Neither were public which is the point.
@@jasonchang6159 How much of an idiot are you to post this comment
@@nykthosacolyte5710
Thats an ignorant argument of 2 completely different levels of severity.
In the future if you're gonna make a parallel dont load the example in your favor, do something equivalent not underhanded
F the community.... Dkayed is the GOAT
Can someone tell me how is it unfair to leak the decks if they were already leaked then? If he was the only reason the decks leaked I could understand, but aparently the decks already were leaked?
Because elitists want to keep the information to their own circles.
Putting everyone on a even playing field, doesn't sit right with them, because he essentially indirectly exposed them, like spoiling a magic trick.
@@Element_Doom Exactly, I don't quite understand how leaking already leaked information would be a problem for anyone but the people who already previously had access to the leaked information and wished to gain an advantage on that.
@@esseubotwhat he did isn't leaking because the information was already out there
@@Element_Doomyou’re just copying dks take. Actually think for yourself and understand why every competitive player was upset about what he did
@@cthegoat3987 The only players upset are those that dont know about the latest technology aka untapped. The same thing already happened at the birth of the internet when people were upset at "net-deckers" looking up decklists online. This software was not only public but also popular so now they are upset that players are "untapping" for an advantage. Keep in mind that the ability to view full decklists in replays was available for months. I personally have used and saved a few fun decks from daily replays before
It was public knowledge. Not too much of a stretch to say some players in the tournament may have already known before Dkayed “leaked” it. Blame Konami for allowing people to access the information in the first place.
I'm not gonna lie - he does have a point. Even without a datamine, we all know what goes on in these live TCG tournaments - players collude with each other in their little "teams" sharing information about the decks of players they've faced. And WITH a datamine being possible, these teams WILL try to get that information as much as possible to have an unfair advantage and not share it with anyone else.
The L is on Konami's side. Dkayed did everyone a favor.
How do you confirm that EVERYONE was already spying and datamine each other and that everyone is ok with their info being leaked without their consent? Facilitating cheating because "everyone is doing it trust me" does not change the fact that it is cheating.
Did any of the Dkayed defense force ever stop to consider that or just go "Because Dkayed said so it must be true"
@elin111 exactly. His argument is basically "athletes using steroids are ruining baseball, so that's why I'm offering free steroids to all players".
"The game doesn't have enough integrity, so I'm just going to remove what integrity is does have" is a dumb justification. Dude just wanted attention.
@@elin111 someone hasn’t gone to a big event with a competitive team and it shows
@elin111 You just asked "How do you confirm that EVERYONE was already spying and datamining...etc" thats the point is if ONLY some of them are doing it, THAT is the unfair advantage. Knowing each other's decklist doesnt escape them from one another's pure skill advantage, in fact I would argue having hidden decklists is just a competitive gimmick to make things more interesting in a moral world but in the immoral reality we live in, people will unfairly gain more info than others. DKayed isn't wrong, just saying. I think being upset that you don't have more leeway to abuse the system is weird. Just my opinion 🤷♂️
Are the players required to go to the website?
If steroids are ruining baseball, then he offered steroids for all, that means he became a public provider of steroids and makes those secret providers somewhat obsolete. The question is, would you, as a player, take that free steroids or not? If you take it, the game will lose its integrity and if no one takes it, it will just strengthen the integrity of the game.
That's the better logic to put it.
Dkayed did a bad take with the leak looking like a God because he evened the playing field with the leak but actually he is a snake that offers the players to commit a sin.
I remember listening to a podcast talking to one of the top participants, and they put it pretty succinctly. If the players knew their decks would be public knowledge, they would have done their deck building differently.
If players choose not to run, say, Gamma, on a general basis, people outside their team would know that. They’d constantly be wondering “when are they gonna drop Gamma on me? I have to play around it until I’m sure they don’t have it”
EZ fix…..
Don’t look at he’s website if you have so much integrity.
Right
Or maybe Konami should find a way to prevent websites like UntappedGG to have a back door into their game they want to be a serious e-sport.
@@Zzz-j2f Or just make Deck List public after submission. Lock them into whatever they decide to play and their 15 card side deck and let RNGsus take the wheel.
@Zzz-j2f let's just agree it's both dkayed and konamis felt. Honestly people shouldn't just be mad at him but also at konami and the competitive players too
@@PandaQueen_ygoNo he did the right thing since some people would have an unfair advantage so he made it equal for everyone.
There is some misinformation, the decks weren't available before the tournament because the replays in masterduel were needed to get the decklists, that's why people say that they used untapped, because the program reads the file of the replay and shows you the decklist, and the person needed to play with the deck for him to post it in his website that's why not all decks are there.
And also Jesse Kotton said in his stream after worlds that they knew about the decklists in master duel meta after round 2 (5 rounds total day 1).
The response of dkayed to Judeu looked kinda bad but he wasn't wrong in his assumption, because in judeu's stream he said that everyone does it and is not cheating is 'scouting', while dkayed never used the word cheating or cheater in the clip.
So you're not going to bring up untapped being involved.
Nah that would require critical thinking they rather get an scapegoat
@@nicholasmarquez3399 found the butthurt dkayed fan
@@vehicledestroyer where??? Cause all I found was an asshole who makes assumptions
@@vehicledestroyer found the childish illogical thinker. Don't gotta support something to turn those dusty cogs
They literally put out a statement distancing themselves from dkayed and then patched it lol
I kind of agree with him though. If he was able to get this information, so can many other players in the competition. Giving information out so everyone is free to see it without needing to datamine putting everyone on an equal playing field seems fair. It would be better if the data wasn't available at all to anyone but it's because it is available exclusively to the people able to datamine that making it public to everyone makes it fair.
If Dkayed could get this info then its entirely reasonable to assume others could as well, at least he made it public.
Careful cap we all know what happened to coder when he put Dkayed on the thumbnail
Edit: Watch out for his fans too
What?!? What happened to Coder?
@@SkyReaperOne he was banned for a year from events
Coder was dmb af for that
The difference is that Cap isn't being a prick. I'm not even a Dkayed defender but coder was being such an asshole about that whole situation
Coder got punished by Konami for hateful speech/threats while Dkayed told his audience not to attack anyone
lol... everyones deck gets leaked so there is no unfair advantages... Jesse Kotton doesn't care and still wins the entire event LOL..
you do realize what dkayed still did is wrong & that he is probably gonna get banned at this point since he already had a tcg suspension with konami prior which did nothing since he never plays in the tcg and is just stuck being a manipulative streamer in duel links & master duel its honestly amazing how many simps he has got still considering the drama he caused & finished with coder prior
Maybe its because the community don't care man. The Championship prize at Yugioh Worlds not even good anymore. Alot of Yugioh fans dont care too much anymore. Also I dont fully disagree with what he did and the reason being thathe did infact took away the advantage of those who would of got the info of other peoples decks secretly. Regardless.. the results haven't changed because Jesse Cotton is still winning at worlds. The winners still the same people.@@BinarySorcerer69
@@KyoAlexiel Yeah because the game is a stagnant, stupid mess. It barely gets new players, especially compared to MtG and Pokemon. No one wants to play this overly complicated, powercrept, expensive garbage game when there are way better and easier alternatives to get into. The playerbase is an ever dwindling subset of 30 year olds at this point. The 'community' of whiny pro players are these people. Sunk cost fallacy 2strong.
If Dkayed had credible reason to believe that private groups were using the same exploit he used to feed decklists to specific teams through discords with intent to gain advantage, he should've presented his evidence alongside doing what he did. I personally think uniform information distribution is better than only a handful of teams gaining an advantage even if "open decklist" formats are fundamentally antithetical to what competitive yugioh is where you're constantly making educated guesses based on incomplete information. Master Duel just flat out shouldn't allow APIs to scrape lists during the World Qualifiers or Playoffs season either imo.
Dkayed engagement farming afterwards certainly didn't help matters either.
Why would he bother gather info to acuse a team of using the exploit?
@@d2clips260 because then he would have had a point
@GAMEFAN27he doesn't need to have a point though, he saw an issue and used the means available to him to take actions, you guys are the ones looking for explanations
@@TheMorhaGroup if he saw an exploit and only wanted it fixed he would have sent in a bug report or talk to the devs
@@GAMEFAN27 or do it himself, and that is the option he decided to take. Just a side note, do you guys really believe he hasn't tried reporting something that he personally knows has been going on for over a decade? Do you really think Konami cares if he doesn't like it??
N3sh was right about his concern on the integrity of the tournament. A lot of the people who competed also has admitted it has helped them more than harm them. Jesse even said he knew who to take the maxx c challenge on because he knew who had no payoffs for it. MDG said it was more helpful than harmful.
As for the Asian players who probably had no idea about this? We have to get some perspective about that but they have to be pissed about this
Simply put, it doesn't really matter where the info could have come from - what matters is Dkayed pulled the trigger, on a completely whimsical guess that it was happening at all. He who shoots first is not to be praised, in this case.
but the info was already available before, he just posted it to a much more known site (which apaprently he owns or something?) than where it was. so he wasn't the first to *shoot* if I understand all of this right.
@@timihari I don't really know a lot of details, i'm just calling it as I see it
It's still BS he pulled it at all, to make such a wildly executive decision like that
@@KingRoni1222 I only know what I read about it today, but apparently some people have been reporting this issue to the unplugged app (where you could look at anyones in-game deck) for a long time and they did nothing about it. So it's not too out there that some players (especially the ones sponsored by unplugged) have known about this and might have been abusing it. So technically, he removed their unfair advantage by making sure everyone knows everyones deck. It might have ruined this WCS (a bit), but it made sure the future ones can't be cheated on, as unplugged has now fixed the issue immediately.
I'm sure that wasn't his reason for it, he probably just wanted more advertising for his website and more views on YT though.
On a related note, I wish decklists were public like in some other TCGs. I think it would make for a more interesting game, knowing what you're going against. Quite a few players said after the event that knowing all the decks helped them play better, strategize better and so on.
Dkayed is an awesome YugiTuber.
Absolutely true he has a great website and his tournaments have way better pricing than Konami.
great website maybe but even back when i watched him played speed duels he wasnt a great player, and a much less entertaining youtuber.
@@kuroshinigami9143it’s not about being great but form a community and that he did by majority
Truly a Robin Hood of our times
A Yu-Gi-Oh decklist isn't a social security number, this isn't that big of a deal.
Agree maybe it would have matter 10 years ago but today what kind of advantage do i get from knowing that my opponent plays snake eye, the game is based on playing a board that doesnt let the opponent play on turn 1 and maybe drawing the out on turn 2.
That is a very stupid thing to say. It is a big deal. A decklist is private knowlege. Not public knowledge. The only people that are supposed to have knowledge of your decklist are you and the Official Konami Judges. If other players know, then it ruins the integrity of the tournament and it creates an unfair advantage. You clearly have never played in a tournament. So you wouldn't understand.
@@Real_Infinity95 Where is the unfair advantage if every participant had their decks leaked? Now everybody knows what the other player is playing. Everybody is in an even field.
@@carlosbarreto9015 The Players aren't supposed to have that information. Don't you get it? It's cheating. Why do you think people are getting mad at DKhayed? Because he posted information that is supposed to be private knowledge.
@@Real_Infinity95 in that case they shouldnt be allowed to show duels on streams in live events because you get the disadvantage of other players knowing your deck while theirs isnt known.
This year for Yugioh has been a complete joke. 🤦♂️
It's truly been an awful year. Last year was way better.
Couldn't agree more but to be fair the last couple years of "competitive" Yu-Gi-Oh! has been nothing but a joke
@@HERO_Neos Imagine in highest competitive event, but you have at least 9 random coin tosses in each round. That's why I see this MD WCS as joke.
Yugioh has been a joke since the fusion deck became the extra deck
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 ok boomer
Of COURSE it was that guy.
no one is forcing them to go to that site and see the decks. Its like getting mad that youtube for having a video or clip spoiling a movie you really wanted to see in theaters. no one force you to click on the video and spoil it. Is it a dk move yes but nothing you can do about it. just dont watch it. By that logic. I hate when social media spoiled deadpool and wolverine and I hadnt seen it on opening day. Should I ask youtube to remove all the clips and reviews.
If you protect your own experience of watching a movie blind then that's the end of it. In a competition your opponents can still look up leaks and use the information against you. You have to deal with it even if you did everything right yourself. Imagine if you didn't go to watch the movie spoilers and someone who did came and yelled out the twist ending to mess with you. It'd be weird if you complained about it and someone tried to blame you for going to the site when it was the other guy making it your problem, right?
Dkayed's response being the requivalent of "Get over it bro" says a lot about his attitude.
He just went "I have authority to decide for everyone else without their consent because I said so cry about it".
Reminds me of Haru Akashimoto in a different place of media
Be careful because a fanboy is going to start attacking you man they're freaking crazy people. His community is way too toxic.
@@seddyx8994 The proper response is to humiliate him (and his fan boys) in the most discreet way possible.
That's what others in a completely different fandom did to a Haru Akashimoto
@@elin111 ur dry
UntappedGG was the reason why the decklists became public knowledge. Just because the lists were posted on MDM, doesn’t mean dkayed was hacking into their accounts to steal decklists. It doesn’t matter if it was posted to YGOorg, or whatever. The info was already public.
idk, I like what he did. In Pokemon, you know the opponents team, in sports you know the other teams strength and weaknesses, etc I get that a surprise factor (luck) on top of the draws (luck again) may help people get wins, but in theory, if you both know your decks, you know what to play around and how to strategize. I think that makes matches more interesting than not. The playing field is even.
I've said for almost a year ago he was a fraud for thing for things like this. Before the leaks were more for future sets and whenever he was wrong he never took any accountability. and 7:10 that way he defends his actions is so low class.
and now he's in hot water and is getting his karma.
you might need to look up the definition of fraud. and why would he take accountability if the leaks were wrong? are you kidding me?
@@MasterDuelRogue-uj5th sabotaging a worldwide event is actually a crime. It happens in sports alot
@@Cardlimits Interpol going to get him soon right
@@MasterDuelRogue-uj5th if konami reports it, yes.
I think a UA-camr who believes “queen of games” is a real thing is far worse than some dude leaking shit, if you believe women play ygo ur on crack
Females do play yugioh. Not just males.
I don't think it's that serious guys it's 2024.
Yeah agree, games are decided by coinflips or drawing the out on turn 2 knowing the decklist doesnt really help.
But what if my opponent finds out that I’m playing Fiendsmith Snake Eyes?! 😭
@@Zzz-j2f he is surrenders immediately😂
Of course it's not, but Yu-Gi-Oh community haven't got any drama since time now
@@kira-sama1 the ff14 community after bitching about a tank soloing a dungeon boss: first time?
The fanboys in the comment section are strong.
Still what he did was sbsoluteky disgusting and yuined a crucial part of the game, the information game to coordinate a 3v3 riedovering your opponent decklist and the hideen weapons and weaknesses of every deck list.
I really hope konami gives him some legal consequences this time because enst he did is objectively wrong even if he's such an entitled and tixic streamer that can do no wrong to get thise sweet sweet minutes of content and donations
This is the most Pegasus move. Bro said now everyone knows let’s see how you do to stop it.
Dude is going to get this website shut down and catch a C&D from konami himself.
Nope
I hope he does just for his anti adblock bullshit but he won't they can't shut it down
Yup, it would likely be his sites will shut down, or at least be banned from the game for awhile!!!!!!
Not going to happen, Master Duel meta does more good than bad for Yugioh
F*** Konami.
Konami: F*** Hideo Kojima *Kojima gets fired*
What’s the chances that Yugioh and Pokémon world tournaments had a major controversy this year?
dkayed to the YWC, and Untapped, and the select few contenders: "HOW ABOUT: *NEGATE?!"*
basically he was like yeah my logic is the morally better one and tried pulling a reverse rick and looked like a chode
So you're okay with some people knowing what others' decks are but not with everyone knowing, how is that fair? I don't particularly like Dkayed but this video is just talking nonsense.
Yugioh content creators always side with the competitive players, no surprise. I genuinely respect Dkayed for creating even conditions, and the fact those people are as pissed off, proves he did the right thing by exposing them.
Every time i see dkayed all i think of is "its legal cheating."
OMG ash, ghostbell, nibiru amd imperm alongside meta decks like snake eyes and flowanderese? Who could have guessed this?
Jokes aside i defintely get why this is a heated debate but at the same time it just feels like this blew open a longstanding issue that never got adressed yet everyone already disliked.
Besides yugioh is hardly suprising. Its just memorising in what order you want to trigger the negates and is mostky decided by cointoss and starting hand, aka luck and a ton kf negates to play through
When Dkayed was trying to justify what he did, he forgot something: this alters THE GAME BEING PLAYED. This is similar to being forced into a new format right before worlds in the Pokemon VGC (main series Video Games) format before 2023. Not as much of a change, but in competitive, my counterpoint is that it was something they had to prepare for, Yu-Gi-Oh has a ban list instead of rotating cards, and as such as PART OF THE GAME'S DESIGN hidden tech cards are fair play. By showing deck lists, you invalidated almost all of the hard work for those techs, and I'm sure it took a long time to reach out everything. If time is money, DKayed is in debt
Yeah laboring for weeks testing a deck build only to have it all invalidated by some yugituber who is banned.
@@kappadarwin9476and him defending himself saying some players had their own team that would have studied the decklist so it's in his rights to monetize the info of others for personal gain
@@M.W.2 which makes it even scummier
Something about Dkayed never sat right with me because he would always get pissy with newbie players to Duel Links coming into his chat asking for advice... Something i've experienced first hand. I always just chalked it up to "he has a website, any questions could be answered there" but as time went on and the more streams i watched, the man has an ego that's gone unchecked for way to long. The audacity to think that you have the right to basically violate someone's privacy unchecked and unpunished.. And the people coming to defend him just because the list on on untapped or whatever, that doesn't make it ok for someone to just undermine the authority of Konami at an event as important as the World Championship. Like at some point he had to have known that what he was doing wasn't right.
He did what an outlaw does, screw the rules because those who are sponsored likely use to cheat their way to knowing plus it’s leak and he himself saw the issue and use it against them
He's always been incapable of taking criticism. D'kayed is one of those people who makes crap up about other people with no proof to win an argument.
EXACTLY dkayed ought to own up to his own mistakes and his own downfall is he wil never do such a thing because he thinks he is just too good not admit to his own faults at all
magic the gathering has dealt with this for years on MtGO for years. You can just scrape your opponent's decklists from almost any site connected to it. I would bet both my nuts, allof these hardcore competitors have been doing the same thing. It's like counting cards in Poker, it's against the rules but can't be proven and if you aren't, you're going to lose.
Edit: In comp. paper magic, you have to submit your decklist for all to see because what Dkayed is describing is called scouting. It happens and it gives well connected players an insane advantage against those who don't have friends scouting other people's decks. What he did was expose a massive problem that the other comp players wouldn't admit because it would hurt their results.
Dkayed is wrong to leak decklists & the players who try outside methods to gain knowledge on opponents decks are also wrong & Konami is also wrong to allow decklists to be freely read during Worlds. Everyone sucks in the situation, but 2 wrongs don't make a right. Dkayed is an a-hole scapegoating his bad actions by saying the equivalent of "It's okay because other people do it and Konami is incompetent."
as much as i like seeing people complain about konami i don't think this is konami's fault, at least the majority of the blame shouldn't be put on them. people will leak information for any game. it's one thing to leak future products but to ruin the experience for people who worked so hard to get to the position they're in is just simply indefensible especially when it comes to his reasoning. if you think someone is cheating then report them so they can be properly punished for it, why is it ok to allow everyone to have access to the information the cheater had? that's not "making things fair" that's changing the landscape of the entire competition.
It's Konami's fault because their game sends the information with the full decklists to the game client when opening replays, which a 3rd party app that sponsored some of the players in this tournament was able to read.
It's impossible to know who cheats in this way because you can have a friend use the exploit and just email the decklists to you. Anyone that knows about the exploit(and this type of information spreads fast) and has at least one friend will be able to get the information anyway and it will be impossible to detect.
Holy shxt the way he replied to Judaeu, This guy is literally Verlisify for YuGiOh
konami : YOU'RE BANNED
Dkayed : NEGATE !!!!
Dkayed has, over, stayed his welcome in the game in general, Like when, will konami perma-ban him from master duel, and duel links clearly dkayed is so delusional like look at 6:35 in video to get a reference on how delusional he can be at the bare minimum, and the guy is just such a manipulative person to where coder got banned back in the day for dkayed just having beef with the guy, and got manipulative with to convince konami otherwise not to mention all the dkayed followers that think he is always in the right no matter what he does just because he is that manipulative of a person, and yet he has gotten away with, so god-damn much to where konami suspended him from tcg play cool still doesn't change anything since dkayed mainly does duel links and master duel so that suspension was pointless in the fact it quite literally did nothing at all like if konami were really to do something about dkayed they would find a way to where he is permabanned on master duel and duel links that way he would have nothing left to do with the game, and we could be rid of this nightmare as is
Delusional? Judeu is literally spondored by untapped, you really think he didnt knew of this exploit already? So naive brother.
You sound so hurt and defeated. You got soft ass hands cupcake.
judeuygo cried like a little soyboy when this happened because he couldnt cheat anymore! bahahahahaha!
Im not a big fan of dkayed. It's foul to show off tournament decks. Honestly, konami should start striking his videos at this point.
Showing off a deck AFTER a tournament is fine. But during is uncalled for.
Worst part about all this is how chill everyone is about people cheating.
Instead of trying to stop it, they rather everyone cheat.
Its literally the same argument some idiots brought up a few times in community tournaments when they get caught cheating, about people using cheats to see facedowns, top decks and cards in hand, "because some people use it, everyone should use it", bunch of idiots...
He did nothing wrong there is nothing bad about it he even does konami's job i know this guy even does what konami should be doing to promote the game he even helps the players to not waste their gems telling us what comes next i don't get why they get so mad at him
With everything that he has done for the community, I can't help but forgive him for this one. Just hope he doesn't do it again
What’s even worse about it for me is that a few years ago I built a deck and shared it with the guy and he took credit for it. Now he is in for this whole fiasco. Honestly he deserves it. He deserves all of the backlash. He did something that ruined the integrity of what all of us Yu-Gi-Oh players have worked so hard to create. I used to be a fan of his a long time ago but after what he did with that deck list and stealing credit for it I just simply gave up on him. I was thinking just let him have it now. Eventually karma will get him. I guess all of those years of spite have finally payed off. And if anyone was wondering what deck I was referring to it was an old Duel Links deck. I have stopped playing Duel Links since then so I don’t really care as much. It was a Wind Up OTK deck that used Overwind, Spikeshield With Chain, and Concentrating Current to OTK. For early Duel Links it was extremely powerful. But he made a video on it and took credit for the list that I sent in. It was so long ago that I don’t care as much anymore.
I was fine with it since he owned up to it being a stunt to drive more traffic to his site. But then he started gaslighting his whole army of children by telling them "Actually they should be thanking me, I did them all a favor. Also, this player calling me out is a cheater!"
If he truly did that to even the playing field, he would've waited until he had all the deck lists available. Which most definitely wasn't the case.
To be fair large companies typically offer 'bounties' for uncovering an exploit like this. I wonder why Untapped was so angry, could it be that they already knew about it?
His justification is just an excuse. He posted it for attention, because he DOESN'T care. He just isn't a big enough man to admit he did it for attention and money.
I am glad he did it, i bet some players knew of this exploit and had friends doing the dirty job for them already, explains why Judeo got so mad (sponsored by untapped btw)
@d2clips260 "some people don't have integrity, so I'm just going to take away ALL the integrity" is a pretty stupid justification.
@@d2clips260 bet you think the way to deal with steroid abuse is to give EVERYONE steroids. 🤦♂️
I hope he gets fined
He's a content creator so obviously he's doing it for monet. But konami is at fault to so you shouldn't blame just dkayed
Why does this matter? You could say that konami wants the decklist to be secret but so? If a small group of people were gonna cheat anyway why not make it open. Most games have moved towards this model anyway and knowing your opponents decklist does change the way the game is played but if you can't tech in new cards before the event to counter then it's not really a problem. The more skilled players will still win
Honestly a big win for the vast majority of people
The information wasn't obtained illegally. The information was publicly accessible.
I see nothing wrong. If this was already public then the informed and best duelists were already using it. Rather than individuals having an edge on other individuals, no one has an edge as everyone has the information.
W Dkayed tbh. He Evenly Matched the whole community
LMAO
if there's one thing i can say about dkayed is his ability to be such an unlikable person no matter his stance is impressive; he just thinks he's always right even when he's obviously in the wrong and having such an obnoxious sense of self entitlement like that is impressive to some extent. hell, the guy could be advocating for world peace and his arrogant mightier than thou attitude would still make me dislike him.
Is it from Dkayed?
I am not surprised at all....
Getting banned means nothing today.
The tournament structure isn’t truly competitive and the prizing isn’t worth it. He’ll make more money from UA-cam than winning a YCS anyway.
not if they permaban him from master duel & duel links & anything yugioh related like i get where your coming from unlike the dkayed simps in the comments here but let me ask you what does dkayed even do at that point if dkayed is permabanned from master duel & duel links & sure why not extend his suspension on tcg to a permaban as well plus if konami really wanted to make sure he does nothing yugioh related again they would probably also send him a c&d order or maybe even get his channel and website taken down as well as dkayed should honestly not be allowed to have anything to do with yugioh anymore as is like in all honesty I'm more surprised konami hasn't already done this prior given dkayed as done some messed up stuff previously as well & i do mean more than just product leaks if anything konami has so much dirt on dkayed I wouldn't be surprised if he practically loses everything possibly in the next month of anything and everything of yugioh he does or has done
@@BinarySorcerer69 never heard of punctuation, huh? like holy shit, that's a diarrhea of words... anyway, konami can't really do anything about it as he did nothing illegal if I understand what happened correctly.
@@BinarySorcerer69 Yeah so I won't bother reading all that, learn about punctuation. Just real quick, they can't send a c&d, ban his channel or take his website down. Konami isn't some all powerful god, they can't do shit. Hope that helps
If Konami goes after Dkayed seriously like you mentioned in such a direct manner that would just be a bad business decision
how?
@@erickkisreal9398 To Konami Dkayed is a legally active 3rd party whose providing a service to their customers, for them to use money and resources in attempt to directly harm such a party is simply in no way beneficial for the company. Not to say there is nothing they can do but the 'solutions' Cap is mentioning here are not it
Bro acting like Konami gonna lose millions if they get rid of this bozo. Be serious lmao
To Konami Dkayed is a legally active 3rd party whose providing a service to their customers, for them to use money and resources to directly harm such a party is simply bad business. Not to say that there's nothing they can do but the 'solutions' Cap is mentioning here are not it
@@justsomeguy727 I am being serious, I am not defending Dkayed whatsoever, I'm simply looking at the situation from a business perspective. I can't estimate what kind of loss they would suffer trying to shut him down but what company actively pursues a loss of any kind
I chewed on this a lot since there's arguments to both sides, but ultimately I side with this being bogus. His argument is partially based on an assuming (someone calling foul), and even *if* people do this, it's not as though it's done before the event even started. Not to mention -- he's not even a part of it. If he wanted change, this was a horrible way to go about it.
If Konami *does* do something about, congrats, I guess -- but the bottom line is he inserted himself in something he had no part in and tainted the game beyond what people were (allegedly) already doing.
Watching the "pros" cry about this was so funny
😂😂
The way dkayed adressed the issue was definitely wrong, trying to seem like he is doing a righteuos thing, but i also wouldnt call what he did wrong. If they were able to access the decklists without any illegal activities involved, then the competitors would have been able to do the same, if they knew how to do so. So while it isnt exactly nice, i dont see a problem with publishing already publicly accessable information.
First problem is Konami for making this information searchable to begin with.
Ain't no way!
But for real, it's just a card game 🤷
Unless its illegal, it's legal
Not only is it just a card game, it's a card game with the worst prizing in the world.
Any game's just a game... Till money's involved. Then it's no longer "just a game". Doesn't even matter if the prize pool's bad.
@@SkyReaperOne people get money from topping in worlds?
@@MidNightSniak People put money into winning and having their strategies exposed and making their chances way lower.
@lordofthered1257 oh ok, I'm not much of a gambling man so that makes sense 😅
He already has the data of people who compete in his tournaments and what decks are most popular. Even if he didn’t leak a person's deck specifically, everyone would still have access to how every deck play with a variance of 1 - 5 cards. You either play the meta or a meta counter.
Dkayed is literally Camula. Guess everybody from now on will have to pull a jaden and "bring something bright" to their duels. Joke aside there is no such thing as leveling the playing field in this game or in any game. Not all competitors are at the same skill level, rich enough to afford the best cards/best decks nor are all competitors at their very best on the day of the event or even during matches, not all competitors are fit physically,emotionally or mentally, or even treated well by the tournament staff. The very idea that him leaking decklists before the event fixes this is laughable. I find it to be in very poor taste, ruins the surprised factor (especially when everybody plays basically the same deck to the point u can quote the bare minimum from memory) both for the players as well as the spectators. The hype/best moments in this game are always the WOW factors, the big surprise factors, be it Exodia, yugi ritual summoning BLS, all the way to ancient gear performing very well in a tier 0 format. Finally Konami needs to go after him to the extreme degree. The same way they went after duelingbook/dueling network (GO FULL NINTENDO, Seize his site, pay fines and all), put things in place such that this doesn't happen again and probably develop their own site that they can use to enable people to register their decks for tournaments. Compile the decklist and release them after the tournament.
I'm surprised no one caught that. Dkayed is giving people information on the decks their opponent is using down to the cards they use. Its cheating plan and simple.
Shark got DQ'd for looking at Quattro's deck.
@@kappadarwin9476 Were u referring to my GX reference?
GX has ended almost 13yrs now,not surprised people didn't catch it.I forgot about shark DQ. Thanks for reminding me.
Let's be real if someone did the same thing as pegasus and sector security officer and spied on the opponent's hand and released said info. It will be the same as any other form of cheating.
@@CelestialDeathscythe yeah I was referring to the GX thing.
THE DECKLISTS WERENT LEAKED BEFORE THE EVENT. Capitalg is dummy for even saying this. The decks were leaked from viewing the replays via untapped. How can you have replays before the event started?
Camula at least had one thing going for her. She was prettier to look at than Dkayed, that's for sure.
Wasn't the decks already public knowledge due to Untapped and Dkayed just copied it onto his website via a leaker who helped him?
He negated the whole YWC.
"HOW ABOUT, NEGATE!?"
At the end at the end of the day, DKayed is right, people that are in worlds, actually looks at replays to see what their opponents play, he himself have done it. Pretty simple.
no hes not
All the actual cheaters using dkayed as a scapegoat for leaking their ploy.
Did i mishear something? Master duel world champs are team instead of a single player?
Hating on dkayed is crazy
Leaking doesn’t really hurt 99.9% of players 😂😂😂 smh 🤦I agree bc it would lvl the playing field especially if others have the same ability to leak info he just did it first and got shit for it
The integrity of the event is already ruined when people start sharing spreadsheets to each other. Dkayed only made it fair…
As someone who plays a few other tcg's and the fact that tapped out released it first, dk did nothing wrong. Make the game open sheet like every other tcg and take away the popularity factor for informatkon gathering. The game should be about skill expression and not cheese factor
Finally, someone talked about it. Everyone in the Yu-Gi-Oh community seems to be ignoring it.
Not really everyone said what they felt on Twitter on the day it happened and some later.
What do you mean? Almost all of the yugitubers have milked this crumb of drama
Lol, most people are piling on Dkayed. Not like he wasn't an outcast of community before (by his choice), there's just more reason for people to get their cut at him and more reason for him to do what he does.
His response was trash but the information was available before he posted it. There was already a way to obtain this information. So this issue was an issue rather he posted it or not.
Honestly, Dkayed has a good point there. If he can get the decklists, plenty of competitors could as well. In which case the integrity mentioned is ruined by players willing to peak gaining an advantage over players that think it's unfair and choose not to.