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just make sure when you get the van, you get a full engine service, oil change, especially a gearbox service, new brake fluid, power steering fluid, and so on. this will be over a thousand dollars in the US but trust me, it's so worth it. i've been working on cars, vans, building machinery, you name it, since i was 10 with my dad. trust me when i say it will be so worth it in the long run. i hope it all goes well. rest in peace to frank.
I was watching a UA-cam channel called Mav he was doing a road trip through New York and camped overnight in that alley and he showed that van on his channel and talk to the same guy I thought that was interesting, as for the first van that type of van holders value quite well well-maintained you can usually get your money back in the resale highly sought after
Thank you for stopping by Van Alley. Drew’s van is in great condition and he has done some excellent upgrades. I find it pretty awesome Drew and his van were now featured on three big Vanlife UA-cam channels. Below is the link of the tour of Van Alley from late 2021, Drew’s Van is featured towards the beginning. “Living RENT FREE in NYC - The Van Dwellings of New York City #VANLIFE WINTER” ua-cam.com/video/XlBUfZYzeM8/v-deo.html then recently he did a full tour during the Norteast Van Life Meetup early this Summer. “VAN LIFE in A Vintage 1987 Dodge B350 Explorer Campervan” ua-cam.com/video/cn1U7ZNClgY/v-deo.html then most recently on Mav’s channel. ua-cam.com/video/zGsllc_X6q4/v-deo.html He will be selling this very soon, I know it.
that space with the campers is just where Mav has been in his last New York video a few days ago. Crazy!!!! The guy you were talking to was the same guy Mav was talking too as well haha. Small world
Top tip... steer clear of any 4x4 with oversized tires, lift kit, and the whole thing which makes it look "cool" unless you know someone who really knows 4x4 suspensions and can look at the work that was done to sign off on it. Most aftermarket suspension 'upgrades' are complete junk and are horrible in terms of actual functionality. They look great, but they're trash. If you want a 4x4, aim for something with normal sized tires that looks stock and unmodified.
Not sure if anyone else watches Mav here on UA-cam , but he was just in the same part of Brooklyn in one of his most recent videos (truck camping); I think even spoken to the same guy who’s selling the first van they looked at! Vid marker 2:20
I used to own a 1981 Dodge Ram Van and it had the 6 litre V8 petrol engine. I can honestly say that I used to get 30mpg out of mine so I was stunned by the 11mpg quote. The parts were never a problem and my van was very reliable. The van was over 25 years old when I owned it.
Hey Alex and Emma 🙂 Just looking at it van no.1 looked very professional and tight. I thought no.2 was a little shaggy and (just by the look of it..) might turn up some trouble in short term. Of course you have to realise that if the mechanics are older (the van space is usually well restored) it might at the end need replacement of cetain parts. And then the issue is: are these parts still available.. A van of the 1980's is about 40 years old .. good chance some parts can be trouble to replace. My tip: try to buy something mechanically solid. Look at the engine, listen to the engine, check for leakage under the van, check for exhaust fumes (blue oily or white steamy rubbery smell) Look at the electronics (does it look tidy and untouched?) and let some one expert look at it too. The interior you can adapt yourself; the mechanics you will probably need a garage for fixing and America has plenty of places you don't want to get stuck in the middle of nowhere. Happy hunting!
I don't think they will have trouble finding the parts it's the fact that they will have to go pull the parts from a salvage yard. I doubt Emma would enjoy that lol.
after-market parts are available for popular vehicles many decades after OEM parts become unavailable, they're often exactly the same part with a different maker's name or a superior part. Any good mechanic will know what's available.
The first van definitely looked well maintained, but the age would be my concern. Also, in regards to that, you guys want to use the van for a few years, and it’s already 35+ years old. Even if it proves to be as sound as it appears, parts could be a problem to find when needed. If it were me, I’d keep on a lookin! 😊
The availability of mechanical parts should not be much of a problem. Those vans were sold in great enough quantity and so many are still on the road that parts are more reliably found than a lot of newer van parts.
Hi Beans👋 Standing up inside is a must! Air conditioning is highly recommended for the USA 🇺🇸. I’ve lived in my vehicles for decades now, kitchen, bedroom, and living/dining rooms are essential! Bathroom is a luxury, having a compost toilet and outdoor shower are great and can easy find a place to be while not in use. And having opening windows for ventilation is also a must with screens. Best of fortune finding your new digs! While in California visit me in Rough and Ready. 🤗 And most importantly, have fun!🤗🥳✨
We want the first van!! 😱 Omg love how much character it has 🚐🙌🏼 If it were us, we would have fallen in love with that one and committed, right there and then 😂 So fair play for respecting the process and carrying on with your search! 👀 ✨ xx T
Any vehicle in the north is likely to have issues with rust. Also anything from near the ocean can have issues from the salt air. The first van would fit you better than the second, but make sure you get an inspection on whatever you consider. Air con is a must in the states. So excited for your journey. We are in the process of going full time in our 1999 Tiffin Allegro 34’ class A.
@@roshi98 I totally agree. I’m down here in South Jersey. Come down here to the Philly Suburbs. Don’t buy a van from any city. Too much wear and tear. Get a van that vacationers only used, not lived in. Too much wear and tear for what you can afford. My opinion. South Jersey is a day trip. 2 hours from where you are now. Look up Deptford, NJ. 50 mile radius. Just trying to help. Good Luck🍀❤️💕There is RV dealers down here too❤️
@@anothercheryladventure9387 this is the advice. You want something that was just for summer trips, lived in a garage mostly, and south Jersey is the place to look. We just have the space for those garages, the cars aren’t sacrificed to the sea air just a little ways inland either.
Hey guys. We liked the van # 1. Because we have nearly the identical one. Ours is a 1992 Dodge. It had 70,000 miles on it when we bought it 7 years ago. We paid $5800 for it. Over the years we have traveled across country twice and many shorter trips in between. Having said that, we have repaired and replaced a number of things at a cost of an additional $10,000 over the years. This includes a new paint job. But we love it. It has never left us stranded. Hopefully that owner has taken care of many of those things. Good luck whatever you choose. John and Angie
I humbly implore you beans - don’t buy anything more than 5 years old! You deserve something decent. You are not simply weekend warriors. This is very much a home substitute. Wishing you the best in your search.
It's a small world!!! I just watched Mav (UA-camr who travels and lives out if his truck) stay in NYC in that same alley, and he has a quick chat with Drew, who points out that he's selling that camper van! So cool!!! I look forward to seeing the small school buses. Seems like a great way to travel.
Be sure to look around and stay patient with the process. And remember that you're going to hit 48 states which is 5500+ kilometers of travel. It is a lot of stress on old vehicles, even restromoded vehicles with new engines and such.
@@outdoorfun8780 totally agree... old ones are simple engineering that's works. New ones even a 15yr old one will have the same issues as a 30yr old one if its not maintained well. RV's don't do high millage for there age so its the parts that can deteriat over time not from wear You need to look at. Sprinter van size I think you need. the 1st one you looked at look tight and original. I think it be hard to beat that in your future searches. It just looked right. Good luck on your searching. ....Burleigh
Also something to consider, the availability of parts just in case it breaks down. Some places don't have mechanics that are familiar with aged vehicles. I do agree older campervans can take the beating more than the newer ones and they don't fall apart at the first year. Some should be in show displays only, just because it is an "antique" and unique type of vehicle (ex. VW buses, collector's items) I hope the couple will take their time searching for a while to get the right campervan.
I own an 85 and am happy with it. What happened to your van can happen to any. Maintenance is the key to any equipment. Do not let fear stop you from a van you fall in love with
You guys definitely need a 4 by 4, and not so old. There are so many amazing places to visit, but having a 4x4 will make a difference where you can go. Good luck with the van hunt. Love and be safe!😘🤗🌼🇻🇪
This is nuts, I was watching mav, another u tuber, and he went to New York, same street, he spoke to the guy selling the van and I was going to comment on one of your videos to say there was a van for sale and yous get to New York and it's the first van you see, crazy
Welcome back! I’d say, keep looking. You’re overcoming trauma while searching for the next “Bean-mobile”. But, once you’ve looked at a few more, I think there will be one that you just feel kind of at peace about. I know that the search is tough. But, I think it will be worth it in the end to find a van you truly love and feel safe in.
As a full-time vanner it's really interesting to follow your purchasing process. I would discount a pop-top as it prohibits stealth camping when you need it. For me, despite how it looks, a the first van is just too old unless you are mechanically savvy enough to keep on top of constant mechanical maintenance.
There's nothing better than a Dodge. I vote for van #1. I've owned Dodge vans for years, and they are super reliable. My 1992 Dodge has 276,000 miles on it, and it has never let me down. I had a 1974 Dodge van before the 1992, and it was still running great with 330,000 miles on it. If it hadn't have gotten totaled in an accident (I got rear ended at a traffic light), I'd probably still have it.
Recommendations: Stay away from the old VW, and any other vehicles where parts may be harder to get for repairs. Remember that Mercedes tends to be on the high end for repairs. Also, if traveling to other countries with a camper van, look into propane connection converters because propane connections tend to differ especially in South America. First van seemed much better than the second, the second van looks like it would not handle corners quite as well as the first van.
Out of the two shown here, the dodge camper is the better choice. As far as age goes, as long as the young man took his time restoring it, I wouldn't be scared of it. Send it to a reputable rv inspection shop, let them go over it completely. I think it's a good option.
So great to see you enjoying NYC! Curious thing about an old Dodge van from the 1980s is that mechanically it is far preferable to a newer one. The electronics are simpler, the controls are easier to troubleshoot and repair, and the engine and transmission far more reliable and sturdier than anything Dodge has put into its domestically designed (actual Chrysler Corp) manufactured vans (as opposed to the Sprinter, which was really just a rebadged Mercedes, or the Promaster, which is a Fiat Ducato made in Mexico, both being supplied by the then-parent company of Chrysler.) Those old Dodges with the 318 or 360 motors, Torqueflite transmissions and simple emissions controls were developed over a long time, generally made well, and are really durable and super reliable when looked after. In the US, parts are dirt cheap and many, many shops can work on them. Losing your first American van in a fire like you did is a once-in-a-lifetime disaster, and shouldn't put you off buying another van or cutaway chassis (look that up) of that vintage. Millions of them are still going strong every day as work trucks, and there are no doubt multiple online groups of people who love, hoard and use these things constantly who are eager to help you keep one on the road cheaply and happily. That's the part (respectfully) that you and so many others tend to overlook about buying the ideal used vehicle (which could be anything from a sailboat to a business jet) They look at 2 or 20 completely different things in a very short period of time (often in an overheated seller's market) and buy something before they really understand what it is, how to support it, and its real benefits and limitations. I understand; you don't really have time to do all that looking and vetting,, but you'll learn all the foibles after you buy it anyway, so narrowing your search down to a specific vehicle or two up front makes a lot of sense. You kind of did that process with your VW vans, from the rusty green one to the much better red one, but those can be expensive lessons. Think of how much better you'd be evaluating another one of those now. It pays to really know what you are looking for, That's what car hobbyists do. They pick a car/bus/snowmobile etc. that they love, learn about it, tap into the club of owners far more fanatical than themselves, figure out which variation of that vehicle they really want, and then the search for the best available example at a fair price begins. These two strategies, of course, (needing something right now and picking the seemingly best option to get on the road ASAP v. searching for the best available specimen of just the right vehicle that you won't ever need or want to sell) are not mutually exclusive. You could buy something now and then take the time to really study what you want and conduct a search for your Cinderella van. With 1/4 Billion cars on the road in the USA, the one you'll be really happy with forever is almost certainly out there- probably dozens of them that would be perfect. They do not, however, just appear on Facebook Marketplace in the few weeks you have to buy something near where you are. Most of the best of any desirable vehicle, from a vintage Ferrari to a Blue Bird Wanderlodge motorhome, are traded privately between the people who love and keep them, and rarely if ever are advertised for sale outside that community. Its the people behind the vehicles that support each other to keep them on the road. There are Airstream people, GM Scenicruiser bus people, Winnebago people, Toyota Chinook people, skoolie people, houseboat people, so many, many groups of cool people- some of whom you really want to know! The happiest owners settle in on their dream machine, find a tribe of similarly minded devotees, and then those people guide the right vehicles to each other... Put less romantically, you can get on the road quickly, and never stop looking for that perfect vehicle, all at the same time. Enjoy the big, beautiful USA, and be sure to get a Denino's pizza while you're on Staten Island...
4x4 all the way! If you like nature/wildlife watching then it will open up so much more options, not just in the USA but Canada and Mexico too. Not too old either.
This is too small a world. This is the same street that Maverick (youtuber) stayed at recently on his east coast trip while in NYC. There is a guy that is using that street to work on/update RV's. There were fireworks on that street on the 4th of July.
The biggest problem with buying anything in New York is the rust. Brake lines can be rusted through, the frame can have rust problems. Floors can have holes in them. Water tanks can be broken from freezing. Water lines too. Be extra careful.
Of the two, the first one hands down. But as others have mentioned, the age is a concern. Whatever you get be sure to have it fully inspected (fuel lines, chassis, heads, everything). I’m sure you’ll find the van that’s perfect for you! Can’t wait to see what you choose!
Hey fellow beans, Virginia is the land for Vans. Lots of them , all shapes, sizes and prices. Come take a look. Take your time and do your research. Always, have a reputable mechanic check it out. It has to feel right for you. I wish you the best of success in finding the right one. Love to you both💖💖 Harriet, Jim and Yuki . Richmond. Va.
Absolutely loved Drew’s story 🥰 you guys are just so watchable and work so well as an on camera team! I totally wouldn’t have the confidence to drive there either! Lol 😂
First van was cool, but too old. Second was just too small. Another thing you might think about is buying a van up north where they salt the roads in the wintertime could be problematic. Take your time, young Beans. Be patient please. 💙
I love that ya'll are taking your time to get exactly what you want. I love the 1st one. I just watched another UA-camr(Mav) and he was on that street talking with Adam about that same van. I have a 1991 dodge ram van. I love it. I really appreciate being able to stand up in it. Good luck on your hunt for the perfect home.
Out of the two you’ve seen I really like the first one and I think if it didn’t look like Frank and wasn’t from that era, there would be no hesitation. That being said, hesitation and not jumping in is smart. But it’s lovely and I think knowing it’s actually been driven on some longer stretches and also driven regularly in recent times helps. Keep looking though, you can always come back to it!
I loved van no.1 but not no.2 even though it had a full size bath tub in it 😎 I got excited when I saw the first van and was secretly hoping you'd snap it up, but you're being sensible not impulsive which is good 👍
I have a 1992 Toyota Itasca RV and I cannot recommend it highly enough. Those who have these old Toyotas usually take great care of them and you can sleep up to 4 people, sometimes 6, very easily. They have showers, toilets, ovens, refrigerators, and more. You can usually pick up a pretty nice one built between '85-'93 from $10,000-$15,000. In any case, you asked which of the 2 in the video I would take and it would be the first one you looked at. Very well reconstructed, it would appear. If you're not using Craigslist for your search, you might give it a try. Lots of RV and photos you can see.
I'm going to be very honest here. If you are going to use something to travel around the US, then maybe look for something bigger and a lot newer. Currently RV sales are way down in 2022 and therefore large discounts are been given at the moment for RVs at the price range you were looking at in your video. Also to look out for is the fact that many states are now coming down heavily on people in vans and RVs, so make sure you also don't get caught out on that. I'm hoping you do find something suitable as I always love your videos.
So interesting! This is the second UA-cam video I've seen in the past week or so that focused on Van Alley in NYC. I hadn't known it existed before. I believe the gentleman who was selling van #1 was there working on his new project and said a few words to the other UA-camr. I definitely liked his rebuild better than the second, but I'd lean toward getting something newer with a few less miles. Have fun looking and enjoy the journey to find your new US motoring home!
I think it really depends on how many miles the vehicle has. I have an older mini van that will have things break just from age. It doesn't have high miles, but for example the cooling fan for the evaporative cooler went out just because it was plastic and that wore out from being in the elements. So with an older vehicle you will have problems even if it has low miles.
I wouldn't worry about the year too much. For example, the first van, for example, has solar and new wiring all over. That's why you need to look for something that is safe. Older is sometimes better because any Chevy you can find parts for can fix it on the side of the road with a rock and a stick. I think the first van was very well built. I would focus more on upgrades and wiring. meaning, what has and hasn't been touched or redone. Stop looking at all the things you want and start looking at all the things that haven't been upgraded. Once you start to focus on that, you will see that it doesn't matter how old it is. You will start to see. These vans get 90% redone because they know how to redo them. A good builder won't skimp out on his work. It's like a master woodworker. Once you find a van that's close to being finished, there are several things you can do. For example, a car radio with GPS is not an easy issue. or you want to add more batter or better solar. The simple thing that would make it just that much better. I would also look for something that is EFI. Old school carbs can work well if tuned right, but it's just a matter of when they act up. Plus, high-altitude driving in the mountains can be a pain. If you have to change jets on a carb, so EFI, it will adjust itself. Besides that, just look for things you would do differently, like the wiring, like sticking your head in there, making sure everything is running right and grounded, etc., same with under the hood and under the frame.
Glad you’re being cautious this time. I love your channel. Of the ones you’ve shown in the video, I’d go for the first van but I would replace every hose or line that has fluid going through it. I’d also consider replacing the radiator and maybe even the water pump as well as all the spark plug leads. American vehicles even older ones still have parts available and there will be far more shops able to work on them than European vehicles. I would still have a thorough mechanical and safety inspection done. As everyone suggested though, please keep looking.
That 1st van is you. Why not buy the first van you see? Have it throughly inspected. All hose,belts,tires brakes you see where I'm going. Get all the maintenance records. The transmission and engine are your big ticket items. Take that van out on the highway for about and hour and you'll know right away if it's for you. Good luck with whatever you choose. I really like that 1st van!!
Well, the Van's in van alley are pretty well kept. I've been watching them for a while now. And although they do drive they don't drive much, so they aren't putting alot of extra mileage on the rig. I think the one in van alley is cool. Just have someone check the engine. The engine is the main component. If that passes muster everything else can be addressed as you go along. Judging by your purchase of the van that was similar to that one I think that's pretty much your style.
Great to see you guys back at it! I think the first van you looked at was the best choice. It seemed to have the right space and the build looks similar to Frank (Hopefully safer though!). Can't wait to see you guys settled and on the road! Hopefully you also had a chance to see the Women Euro Final and watch the Lady Lionneses bring football home to England! ⚽️ 🏴🏆
I would not get something past 1990 and fir the US defiantly get a 4x4. I live in southern Oregon if you travel this way i would love to host ! I live on 80 acres and I also know a bit about vehicles.
The first van was better but lets keep this "REAL". You are in the USA, so that should absolutely be the smallest you should be looking at. It should have a Air Conditioner, Heater, Hot Water Heater, Shower and Toilet and Solar for off-grid and if you don't have a generator, get the Honda EU2200 suitcase generator (it will run the AC), best for small setups. 4x4 is NOT as important as pretty much everywhere we have gone off-grid has gravel roads at a minimum, and you just wont be going down a muddy road anyways with any RV and we are big off roaders too. The risks are just too high if you get stuck and trying to pull and RV out way down a muddy forest service road is krazy! Ask us how we know?
Stay away from the salty air places. Rust is a big concern. Also open the hood and look at the motor. Find something with low miles. The first van will be a gas guzzler. It’s way heavy. You need to look in the middle of the country, less money, no rust.
You two beans have been my most recent binge watching focus! Your growth as beans and your adventures are really great to watch. Most of all, you two seem like friends we would love to get to know (including the introverted sides of yourselves). Thanks for putting out such great content, and for sharing the good and the bad. Life is full of challenges and it’s important to show all sides to life, as you are. Bean fan OUT
Love following you two! Thank you for being cautious in your next van purchase. The first van was too cute! But did he update the engine and wiring etc as well as the esthetics??? I would really be careful buying such an old van. The second van was done on a shoestring and I would be concerned that everything was “MacGyvered” and the safety and function would be questionable. I sound like your mother…..Hahahaha Best of luck in your search!!!!
I know you seem set on a van, but a trailer with a pickup to pull it (IF you are comfortable with the precautions you need to take to safely pull a trailer) is a more logical choice in the US. You drop the trailer where you are going to be and you still have transportation. Remember, any campground you are likely to visit will be miles from a grocery store/bank/urgent care doctor/etc... If you go 'boondocking' you can use the pickup to haul water in and trash out without having to button everything up to move your living quarters. Plus, you could keep the trailer in storage when you go back to the UK, and sell the pickup. There will always be used pickups available and much easier to find (or rent) than a camper you like.
Hi guys great video. Ive worked on restored and been a gearhead all my life. As far as the dodge is concerned those did have transmission issues due to weight of the rv. Also they had electrical issues.even though its in such good kit i would suggest passing on it. The sprinter on the othet hand is a great platform. Id wait and find one with a extended roofline for height. And obviously ac. They are a premium price due to newness though. Stay away from anything in 80s imo. You may want to consider a class c that has low miles itll have all the ammenitys your looking for and a chassis built for the weight. Anyway thatsmy 2 cents. Enjoy the hunt and take your own advice it sounds lije wisdom. Discovered your channel just before fred. Enjoying watching your journey btw. cheers
We love the first one but thirsty to drive across the USA. But a SWB school bus would also be epic!!! More likely to be diesel, younger, more space and the ability to bring all of the future beans along too. 4wd = the ability to get stuck when more remote and also takes away from money for the adventure. Love the content!!
From these two would def go for the first one. From the previous camper you two told how much you loved standing up, the airco and space ovverall as an upgrade from the UK-van. Sorry I am terrible with names. So the second one is something I wouldnt pick in that case. But like you said the age, if there is an option for same pricerange but younger a bit further outside NY I would def check that out first.
I've technically got the blue one (exact same measurements and model but from VW). It's a great Van to live in alone, but not so great for the 2 (+1) of you. However - these Vans exist in different sizes (like the Vanwifes have) and could absolutely fullfill your needs, while being very reliant and reasonable with fuel consumption.
My two cents: Get a good newer cargo van and convert it yourselves! You can rent anything stateside (maker space and tools), and it's easy to receive parts even w/o a steady address (Mailboxes Etc ). Look for a Promaster, that's a Fiat Ducato = Peugeot Boxer, and there is a myriad of conversion parts (windows, roof vents and whatnot) that's specifically geared to that particular body style. Heck, you can do this in a Home Depot parking lot, while you live in the vehicle. You'll get exactly what you want and don't pay for somebody else's conversion. Courage, beans! Cheers from Germany- Folker
I like the first one! The one he's working on looks absolutely amazing! I know y'all will pick just the right one for you! Stay safe and have a great time! Love from South Carolina, Jane ❤🙏
I don't think you have seen THE ONE yet , keep looking and be relaxed about it as possible , you don't want to go old as you know what that brings and keep in mind all your needs. I am sure it's out there waiting for you , enjoy the process and what sight seeing you do alone the way.
I do like the first van, if you can find a good mechanic to ensure it runs well and all hoses, etc are in excellent shape. I've reviewed some of the comments and there are some very good points made.
Hey Emma and Alex. You are absolutely right: do not hurry in buying your next RV. Take your time and each time weigh the pros and cons each time you see , visit and test a van. At first sight, van number 1 seems to have lots of advantages. Once again, see other RVs and take your time in visiting and testing them. Please do not hurry in buying one. Cheers and greeatings from France.
I would continue to look. I think you guys should get a mini bus because it would be great for starting a family in and there could be storage there's so many options for setup.
Van number one looks great. Looks well and maintained and the guy has renovated it really well. He also seems to know what he’s doing. I know it’s the first one you’ve seen but so far it’s definitely a possibility. As you said make sure you get a thorough check over by a qualified mechanic. Good luck for exciting times ahead.
NY city isn't the first place I think about when looking for a camper van, being the biggest city in the US higher sales tax . But who knows it may work out. Hope the best for you guys .
I have a 21 ft. RV C class so very easy to drive, it is a 2013 I believe or 2014 with very low mileage (around 45K). I'm getting ready to have the tanks swapped out for new ones, new A/C mini split units one in the bedroom, one in the "living room/kitchen/workspace and then solar on top and have to reseal the entire roof. CA sun damages the roof so fast!! I personally love the RV space, it's really lovely and it fits two people perfectly (we're small too 5'2 and 5'6) so no worries on roof space, LOL. I would recommend a younger model for your van or RV or mini schoolie, I totally see you both in a mini schoolie that is all set up with good air con and solar. GOOD LUCK!!! It's fun watching you find a new one.
Hello too both of you. Welcome back. The process of finding the van of your dreams is a challenging adventure. I wish the best of luck to you both. I will share that I had a1986 camper van which was identical to the first one you looked at. I had the van for many many years drive it from Texas to Rhode Island at least twice a year. When the kids were small it was something we excitingly looked forward to year after year. Unfortunately kids got older and bigger and well I am sure you can figure what happened next. It was a 318 motor with a 727 transmission. Got between 10 to 12 miles per gallon. The 360 motor was another option for dodge. 360 uses more gas. Things to check 1. Front end. Over time the steering box requires maintenance 2. Tie rods and steering components maybe worn 3. Brake caliper pistons (original calipers) can freeze closed. If replaced should not be a problem. 4. Wiper bushings under vowel (plastic) maybe ready to break. 5. Ujoint health should be checked. The video did not say how many miles it had on it. Best of luck in your search. Looking forward to your next video. Ohhh how old is roof ac?
If my only choices were the two you visited, the first one would be my choice. The guy said he renovates them and sells them so he seems to know what he's doing. It was also much more spacious and 'Frank-like". I hope you find what you are looking for!
Oh my goodness drew!!! He is SOOOOO good at what he does. Also drew don’t lie we all know you’ve had bad posture for years lol. I hope travel beans is smart enough to use your van!
If y'all see a Lance truck camper built before 2018. My husband and I bought a Lance trailer and we are happy with the quality of it. They are also 4 season campers so you could hit the slopes if you're ever in the states in the winter.
Hi guys, I’m so excited for you both! My husband and myself are going to look at second hand motorhomes and hopefully when both my daughters have had there babies we can start our own adventure! I know two daughters two babies, there like the London bus you don’t see one for ages and then two come at once!😂 Good luck hope you find what your looking for and thank you for taking me with you xxxxx❤️
One thing that I have heard from Sprinter owners is that Mercedes treats them as the unwanted step child whenever they go into the dealer for any work. The Mercedes network in the US is geared towards the selling and servicing of luxury cars. Something to keep in mind since Sprinter vans are a popular option.
I was stunned a bit by the 11miles per gallon on the first van. When that van was built the price of a gallon was (even adjusted for inflation) half of what it is now. Modern vans still seem well under 20mpg.
US gallons are approx 83% of an Imperial Gallon. So 11mpg translates as about 14 mpg in Imperial terms. Damn! That's still going to end in the bankruptcy court pretty quickly!
Dodge had a 3500 van that had either a 318 V8 or the 360 V8. I owned a REFER 3500 Dodge and the mileage was terrible, about 10 to 12 mpg. you need to purchase a van with fuel injection if you purchase a Dodge. the Carb ones sucked
Yep, that's the difference with older vans. I'm currently driving a 6.25 metre Renault Master camper and that can achieve 30MPG on diesel without much effort.
Guys, great to see you’re back out and looking at vans! I too have a T4 in the UK, and love the simplicity of them. Prior to a LOT of the more complicated Diesel engines with ECU’s and sensors everywhere! For what it’s worth I think the first van is your best choice, whilst it’s old, the engine is simple, and parts should be relatively cheap. I do like a sprinter too, but just didn’t seem ‘finished’ IMO!
Wonderful Adventure as always! We owned Van 1 😊 and got it fairly new when we were in grad school and kept it for 4 years never had a single problem. The engine and transmission are great and the living design is well thought out. Very livable indeed.
Oh one more thing! Check fuel lines and engine And everything underneath-put that van on a lift and video everything to make sure it’s safe for future Baby Bean🥰😊
Can the first dude (who seemed to be really knowledgeable, friendly and helpful) source you some options. I reckon he's well connected in the van scene and could probably find you something based on an exact spec. You could even work part time with him (maybe) in any work needed, customisation, mods etc. Could be a win win. Good luck with the seach, loving these vids so much Beans. X
Thank you for sharing your journey with us! It is very nice of you to ask us what we think. Be patient, keep looking. A newer van would be better for you in gas millage and maintenance cost. A couple other people suggest looking at Campers or RV’s. I think that’s a great idea, even if its only to compare and contrast. The right one is out there for you! Good luck! Thank you so much for sharing your life with us. Seeing you both is always a bright spot in our day!
The first van builder was on Mav’s UA-cam last week when he slept in that ally and chatted with Drew a couple of times. Depending on the quality of the van’s life and how it’s been kept would get a second opinion asap or you stand a chance of losing the opportunity to buy it should someone else scoop it up. Maybe look up the carfax to see the history if there is some data like for oil changes and accidents, etc. Just comparing the two builds in this video by appearance prefer the first based on your needs, and think both likely are super sound as these men lived in the vans so they know their functionality. Just my opinion as a shade tree mechanic for 35 years. Plus, you looked in love with it for a lot of experience reasons knowing what to look for
It is easy to be a couch critric but remember what happened to the last "old" van. I truely think you should keep clear of these older ones. If you can get a " newer"one it should be "safer". I do like following you and can't wait for you to start your explore. There are a few channels my wife and I follow in the USA who use 4wd vans. That way they can go further into the wild. But of course it has to met with your budget!! Oh the bane of so many of us. Love your content and english accent. We live in New Zealand so it is wonderful to see the world throu your eyes. Thanks so much. Sylvia and Ian
Em you’re absolutely right. Just have to get right back up on the horse. That can be a bit scary to get the same year. Nice in the inside but it’s important to fully understand what’s going on in the hood. Best of luck on you USA vacation home on wheels! 🚍❤️🙌
After your last experience, not just with the fire but with the mechanics before hand, I would go for a newer van. Not sure about the 4x4 option, might use more fuel unless you could get one with selectable 4 wheel drive. Looking forward to what you might find. ATB Simon (from Blighty).
you don't know that, any car that's been off the road that long would have all kinds of issues with dried up o-rings. most lily cause was the injectors seals leaking after not being in use for so long. happens all the time. dont blame the the mechanic for these guys lack of mechanic knowledge
All 4x4 vehicles (like the vans and trucks pictured) are selectable 4wd in the US. There are AWD vehicles, like Subarus, but they aren't true 4WD. There were very few places I actually needed true 4WD...mostly snow or sand or deep mud. 4WD will get you further but also get you stuck deeper
@@dawg7915 my thought process behind comment on the mechanic was related to poor customer service; have a look at the vlog with recorded calls between the beans and the garage. I didn’t make any reference to anyones mechanically ability.
Honestly guys, if you would expand your search to look for solar vans. The 1st van could break down but there was nothing for a back up. Always have a plan B. Honestly believe you all should buy newer. The 80s vans seem to have the same issues with full tanks. Great video guys!
Definitely Definitely without a doubt buy something built in the 21st Century. No matter how good an antique Van may look, once you use it regularly, the problems WILL pop out, with great regularity.
Some of those old school bus type ones looked amazing. So much space and quite modern. I'd be hesitant to buy an older one as I'd always be worrying about it breaking down but that's just me. If you were to go for that first one I'd want to make sure it's not a common fault that happens with that style of van.
Buy the 1987 Van Right Away and then you have the option to simply replace all the fuel and brake lines, even if they're still in good condition for peace of mind. Bring in your expert to check out the engine block to make sure the engine and drive train is sound. Don't be worried about the age, as most RV's don't get driven in anylike manner as a regular car would. You also have the option of a natural gas conversion if you can't stomach the gasoline milage.
Yes to the Dodge 100%. The Merc sprinter no thank you . Used a sprinter at work for three years not heavy work either. Was so pleased to get out of it. Trouble after trouble and it's fuel consumption was terrible. After inspection the Dodge should be good, if it needs parts they are not that difficult to source even at that age. Good luck with the hunt guys. Very interested to be going along with you.
Yay! Back in the U.S.! And something that was absolutely amazing to me is that out of all of NYC, the street with the first van you checked out was the exact same street featured in Maverick's NY truck camping video of Jul 24: ua-cam.com/video/zGsllc_X6q4/v-deo.html, and even showed that van and its owner. Talk about coincidences. 😄
I paused it as soon as they turned down that street to see if anyone else had seen it as well. That's so weird and random. I wonder when Mav did his video compared to this one, and whether it was the guy who was doing builds too.
Hi..glad to see that you are back to the US to go van hunting...FYI ..beware any van that been in the northern part of North America..they use salt on the roads in the winters for snow & ice RUST..is not your friend when comes to doing repairs...just trying to help you out....Enjoy your hunt....
Just subscribed, really like your style .we are long time rv enthusiasts, with a deep knowledge of these vehicles. I feel what you’ve looked at so far is first off way too old and the second blue was just one poorly constructed. Rust on the undercarriage with this first one at this age can be a thing . Please know that 30 year old systems ( fridges and heaters, air conditioners ) etc don’t just keep working . What we do when shopping is have the fridge cold on arrival , run the furnace , cycle the air conditioning Run the water pump. Does the unit have a propane leak sensor, smoke detector, carbon monoxide detector .You will quickly start to get a feel on a units general condition. If it all works then take it to a really good rv tech and pay good money for a deep dive. Old is cool and cute, but can be a nightmare. Then the unit needs a whole separate mechanical inspection for the drive system, fuel system , look for electrical shorts.etc I’ve even seen a few of these old clunkers on the side of the road on fire. (Sorry) GO NEWER. Use you brain first , then fall in love with it. Good luck.
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So Emma gets excited by vans ? 😂 😂 😂
Poor Alex 😂
Spend the extra get a better van with AC
No I don't trust older then 10 years .remember parts aren't as easy to find for the older gems. Take your time and have it inspected. Love u guys too
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just make sure when you get the van, you get a full engine service, oil change, especially a gearbox service, new brake fluid, power steering fluid, and so on. this will be over a thousand dollars in the US but trust me, it's so worth it. i've been working on cars, vans, building machinery, you name it, since i was 10 with my dad. trust me when i say it will be so worth it in the long run. i hope it all goes well. rest in peace to frank.
I was watching a UA-cam channel called Mav he was doing a road trip through New York and camped overnight in that alley and he showed that van on his channel and talk to the same guy I thought that was interesting, as for the first van that type of van holders value quite well well-maintained you can usually get your money back in the resale highly sought after
I watched that mav video too, and thought what are the odds!
OMG .... i watched Mav too !!! No wander that van looks so familiar !!!
the same here..! i recognized the all Black camper parked before the green ambulance..!! what are the odds..!
Yes when I saw that black camper that’s when I realized where they were
Same here, i watched the same MAV video in that same alley when he was in York. What a coincidence
Thank you for stopping by Van Alley. Drew’s van is in great condition and he has done some excellent upgrades. I find it pretty awesome Drew and his van were now featured on three big Vanlife UA-cam channels. Below is the link of the tour of Van Alley from late 2021, Drew’s Van is featured towards the beginning. “Living RENT FREE in NYC - The Van Dwellings of New York City #VANLIFE WINTER”
ua-cam.com/video/XlBUfZYzeM8/v-deo.html then recently he did a full tour during the Norteast Van Life Meetup early this Summer. “VAN LIFE in A Vintage 1987 Dodge B350 Explorer Campervan”
ua-cam.com/video/cn1U7ZNClgY/v-deo.html then most recently on Mav’s channel. ua-cam.com/video/zGsllc_X6q4/v-deo.html
He will be selling this very soon, I know it.
Always appreciate you man, love your channel!
@@Areister37 love your van.
You should have multiples little ones, then you'd have a whole tin of beans😁
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that space with the campers is just where Mav has been in his last New York video a few days ago. Crazy!!!! The guy you were talking to was the same guy Mav was talking too as well haha. Small world
Top tip... steer clear of any 4x4 with oversized tires, lift kit, and the whole thing which makes it look "cool" unless you know someone who really knows 4x4 suspensions and can look at the work that was done to sign off on it. Most aftermarket suspension 'upgrades' are complete junk and are horrible in terms of actual functionality. They look great, but they're trash. If you want a 4x4, aim for something with normal sized tires that looks stock and unmodified.
Not sure if anyone else watches Mav here on UA-cam , but he was just in the same part of Brooklyn in one of his most recent videos (truck camping); I think even spoken to the same guy who’s selling the first van they looked at!
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I used to own a 1981 Dodge Ram Van and it had the 6 litre V8 petrol engine. I can honestly say that I used to get 30mpg out of mine so I was stunned by the 11mpg quote. The parts were never a problem and my van was very reliable. The van was over 25 years old when I owned it.
There is no way you got 30 mpg maybe 18 but more likely 13 mpg.
@@coloradoridgerunner791 sorry but I owned the van for many years and I know what I was getting in MPG
Hey Alex and Emma 🙂 Just looking at it van no.1 looked very professional and tight. I thought no.2 was a little shaggy and (just by the look of it..) might turn up some trouble in short term. Of course you have to realise that if the mechanics are older (the van space is usually well restored) it might at the end need replacement of cetain parts. And then the issue is: are these parts still available.. A van of the 1980's is about 40 years old .. good chance some parts can be trouble to replace.
My tip: try to buy something mechanically solid. Look at the engine, listen to the engine, check for leakage under the van, check for exhaust fumes (blue oily or white steamy rubbery smell)
Look at the electronics (does it look tidy and untouched?) and let some one expert look at it too. The interior you can adapt yourself; the mechanics you will probably need a garage for fixing and America has plenty of places you don't want to get stuck in the middle of nowhere.
Happy hunting!
I don't think they will have trouble finding the parts it's the fact that they will have to go pull the parts from a salvage yard. I doubt Emma would enjoy that lol.
yeah, stuck on the highway or some rural town
Great advise
This is really good advice! When you have an older vehicle, parts are difficult or impossible to come by.
after-market parts are available for popular vehicles many decades after OEM parts become unavailable, they're often exactly the same part with a different maker's name or a superior part. Any good mechanic will know what's available.
Remember not to put toooooo much pressure on yourselves. We are supporting you both all the way. 🤗🤗👍🏻👍🏻
The first van definitely looked well maintained, but the age would be my concern. Also, in regards to that, you guys want to use the van for a few years, and it’s already 35+ years old. Even if it proves to be as sound as it appears, parts could be a problem to find when needed. If it were me, I’d keep on a lookin! 😊
The availability of mechanical parts should not be much of a problem. Those vans were sold in great enough quantity and so many are still on the road that parts are more reliably found than a lot of newer van parts.
Hi Beans👋
Standing up inside is a must! Air conditioning is highly recommended for the USA 🇺🇸. I’ve lived in my vehicles for decades now, kitchen, bedroom, and living/dining rooms are essential! Bathroom is a luxury, having a compost toilet and outdoor shower are great and can easy find a place to be while not in use. And having opening windows for ventilation is also a must with screens.
Best of fortune finding your new digs!
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We want the first van!! 😱 Omg love how much character it has 🚐🙌🏼 If it were us, we would have fallen in love with that one and committed, right there and then 😂 So fair play for respecting the process and carrying on with your search! 👀 ✨ xx T
Any vehicle in the north is likely to have issues with rust. Also anything from near the ocean can have issues from the salt air. The first van would fit you better than the second, but make sure you get an inspection on whatever you consider. Air con is a must in the states. So excited for your journey. We are in the process of going full time in our 1999 Tiffin Allegro 34’ class A.
Agree totally head south they will be in far better condition due to climate
@@theashbys8863 To be fair, the van they bought down South caught fire, so...
@@roshi98 I totally agree. I’m down here in South Jersey. Come down here to the Philly Suburbs. Don’t buy a van from any city. Too much wear and tear. Get a van that vacationers only used, not lived in. Too much wear and tear for what you can afford. My opinion. South Jersey is a day trip. 2 hours from where you are now. Look up Deptford, NJ. 50 mile radius. Just trying to help. Good Luck🍀❤️💕There is RV dealers down here too❤️
rust has not been a problem for many years
@@anothercheryladventure9387 this is the advice. You want something that was just for summer trips, lived in a garage mostly, and south Jersey is the place to look. We just have the space for those garages, the cars aren’t sacrificed to the sea air just a little ways inland either.
Hey guys. We liked the van # 1. Because we have nearly the identical one. Ours is a 1992 Dodge. It had 70,000 miles on it when we bought it 7 years ago. We paid $5800 for it. Over the years we have traveled across country twice and many shorter trips in between. Having said that, we have repaired and replaced a number of things at a cost of an additional $10,000 over the years. This includes a new paint job. But we love it. It has never left us stranded. Hopefully that owner has taken care of many of those things. Good luck whatever you choose. John and Angie
I humbly implore you beans - don’t buy anything more than 5 years old! You deserve something decent. You are not simply weekend warriors. This is very much a home substitute. Wishing you the best in your search.
It's a small world!!! I just watched Mav (UA-camr who travels and lives out if his truck) stay in NYC in that same alley, and he has a quick chat with Drew, who points out that he's selling that camper van! So cool!!! I look forward to seeing the small school buses. Seems like a great way to travel.
Came here to say this! lol
Be sure to look around and stay patient with the process. And remember that you're going to hit 48 states which is 5500+ kilometers of travel. It is a lot of stress on old vehicles, even restromoded vehicles with new engines and such.
@@outdoorfun8780 totally agree... old ones are simple engineering that's works. New ones even a 15yr old one will have the same issues as a 30yr old one if its not maintained well. RV's don't do high millage for there age so its the parts that can deteriat over time not from wear You need to look at. Sprinter van size I think you need. the 1st one you looked at look tight and original. I think it be hard to beat that in your future searches. It just looked right.
Good luck on your searching. ....Burleigh
Also something to consider, the availability of parts just in case it breaks down. Some places don't have mechanics that are familiar with aged vehicles. I do agree older campervans can take the beating more than the newer ones and they don't fall apart at the first year. Some should be in show displays only, just because it is an "antique" and unique type of vehicle (ex. VW buses, collector's items) I hope the couple will take their time searching for a while to get the right campervan.
I own an 85 and am happy with it. What happened to your van can happen to any. Maintenance is the key to any equipment. Do not let fear stop you from a van you fall in love with
You guys definitely need a 4 by 4, and not so old. There are so many amazing places to visit, but having a 4x4 will make a difference where you can go. Good luck with the van hunt. Love and be safe!😘🤗🌼🇻🇪
#1 is better but a patient search is most valuable 🇨🇦
Exactly! Worries me they're so excited about the first van they look at. Especially worrisome that it's so old. Patience is the key. 🙂
This is nuts, I was watching mav, another u tuber, and he went to New York, same street, he spoke to the guy selling the van and I was going to comment on one of your videos to say there was a van for sale and yous get to New York and it's the first van you see, crazy
I saw the thumbnail and thought the same thing. Had to rewatch Mav and it's for sure in his video. Crazy stuff
@@ncoope00 yip, bonkers how small a world it really is
@@ncoope00 yip, bonkers how small a world it really is
Welcome back! I’d say, keep looking. You’re overcoming trauma while searching for the next “Bean-mobile”. But, once you’ve looked at a few more, I think there will be one that you just feel kind of at peace about. I know that the search is tough. But, I think it will be worth it in the end to find a van you truly love and feel safe in.
As a full-time vanner it's really interesting to follow your purchasing process. I would discount a pop-top as it prohibits stealth camping when you need it. For me, despite how it looks, a the first van is just too old unless you are mechanically savvy enough to keep on top of constant mechanical maintenance.
There's nothing better than a Dodge. I vote for van #1. I've owned Dodge vans for years, and they are super reliable. My 1992 Dodge has 276,000 miles on it, and it has never let me down. I had a 1974 Dodge van before the 1992, and it was still running great with 330,000 miles on it. If it hadn't have gotten totaled in an accident (I got rear ended at a traffic light), I'd probably still have it.
Recommendations: Stay away from the old VW, and any other vehicles where parts may be harder to get for repairs. Remember that Mercedes tends to be on the high end for repairs.
Also, if traveling to other countries with a camper van, look into propane connection converters because propane connections tend to differ especially in South America.
First van seemed much better than the second, the second van looks like it would not handle corners quite as well as the first van.
Out of the two shown here, the dodge camper is the better choice. As far as age goes, as long as the young man took his time restoring it, I wouldn't be scared of it. Send it to a reputable rv inspection shop, let them go over it completely. I think it's a good option.
I liked the first van over the 2nd. I would think you could get more van for your money in lower cost states like Florida, Tx, and Arizona.
So great to see you enjoying NYC!
Curious thing about an old Dodge van from the 1980s is that mechanically it is far preferable to a newer one. The electronics are simpler, the controls are easier to troubleshoot and repair, and the engine and transmission far more reliable and sturdier than anything Dodge has put into its domestically designed (actual Chrysler Corp) manufactured vans (as opposed to the Sprinter, which was really just a rebadged Mercedes, or the Promaster, which is a Fiat Ducato made in Mexico, both being supplied by the then-parent company of Chrysler.)
Those old Dodges with the 318 or 360 motors, Torqueflite transmissions and simple emissions controls were developed over a long time, generally made well, and are really durable and super reliable when looked after. In the US, parts are dirt cheap and many, many shops can work on them. Losing your first American van in a fire like you did is a once-in-a-lifetime disaster, and shouldn't put you off buying another van or cutaway chassis (look that up) of that vintage. Millions of them are still going strong every day as work trucks, and there are no doubt multiple online groups of people who love, hoard and use these things constantly who are eager to help you keep one on the road cheaply and happily.
That's the part (respectfully) that you and so many others tend to overlook about buying the ideal used vehicle (which could be anything from a sailboat to a business jet) They look at 2 or 20 completely different things in a very short period of time (often in an overheated seller's market) and buy something before they really understand what it is, how to support it, and its real benefits and limitations. I understand; you don't really have time to do all that looking and vetting,, but you'll learn all the foibles after you buy it anyway, so narrowing your search down to a specific vehicle or two up front makes a lot of sense. You kind of did that process with your VW vans, from the rusty green one to the much better red one, but those can be expensive lessons. Think of how much better you'd be evaluating another one of those now. It pays to really know what you are looking for, That's what car hobbyists do. They pick a car/bus/snowmobile etc. that they love, learn about it, tap into the club of owners far more fanatical than themselves, figure out which variation of that vehicle they really want, and then the search for the best available example at a fair price begins.
These two strategies, of course, (needing something right now and picking the seemingly best option to get on the road ASAP v. searching for the best available specimen of just the right vehicle that you won't ever need or want to sell) are not mutually exclusive. You could buy something now and then take the time to really study what you want and conduct a search for your Cinderella van. With 1/4 Billion cars on the road in the USA, the one you'll be really happy with forever is almost certainly out there- probably dozens of them that would be perfect. They do not, however, just appear on Facebook Marketplace in the few weeks you have to buy something near where you are. Most of the best of any desirable vehicle, from a vintage Ferrari to a Blue Bird Wanderlodge motorhome, are traded privately between the people who love and keep them, and rarely if ever are advertised for sale outside that community. Its the people behind the vehicles that support each other to keep them on the road. There are Airstream people, GM Scenicruiser bus people, Winnebago people, Toyota Chinook people, skoolie people, houseboat people, so many, many groups of cool people- some of whom you really want to know! The happiest owners settle in on their dream machine, find a tribe of similarly minded devotees, and then those people guide the right vehicles to each other...
Put less romantically, you can get on the road quickly, and never stop looking for that perfect vehicle, all at the same time.
Enjoy the big, beautiful USA, and be sure to get a Denino's pizza while you're on Staten Island...
Hyped for this you guy make my Monday 😊❤️
Here....here.... Makes my Mondays as well. Beans, without gas, unite!!!! 🤣
@@garyaaron8425 😂 💯
4x4 all the way! If you like nature/wildlife watching then it will open up so much more options, not just in the USA but Canada and Mexico too. Not too old either.
This is too small a world. This is the same street that Maverick (youtuber) stayed at recently on his east coast trip while in NYC. There is a guy that is using that street to work on/update RV's. There were fireworks on that street on the 4th of July.
Small flipping world 😂
Came to comment this, that’s the guy Mav chatted to briefly. He pointed out that campervan too
Even smaller world, that guy is me
The biggest problem with buying anything in New York is the rust. Brake lines can be rusted through, the frame can have rust problems. Floors can have holes in them. Water tanks can be broken from freezing. Water lines too. Be extra careful.
That “shaggin’ wagon cracked me up…..Im originally from OZ…..and in Aussie they are called “Fornicatoriums”😂😂😂
Of the two, the first one hands down. But as others have mentioned, the age is a concern. Whatever you get be sure to have it fully inspected (fuel lines, chassis, heads, everything). I’m sure you’ll find the van that’s perfect for you! Can’t wait to see what you choose!
Hey fellow beans, Virginia is the land for Vans. Lots of them , all shapes, sizes and prices. Come take a look. Take your time and do your research. Always, have a reputable mechanic check it out.
It has to feel right for you. I wish you the best of success in finding the right one. Love to you both💖💖 Harriet, Jim and Yuki . Richmond. Va.
Absolutely loved Drew’s story 🥰 you guys are just so watchable and work so well as an on camera team!
I totally wouldn’t have the confidence to drive there either! Lol 😂
First van was cool, but too old. Second was just too small. Another thing you might think about is buying a van up north where they salt the roads in the wintertime could be problematic. Take your time, young Beans. Be patient please. 💙
I love that ya'll are taking your time to get exactly what you want. I love the 1st one. I just watched another UA-camr(Mav) and he was on that street talking with Adam about that same van. I have a 1991 dodge ram van. I love it. I really appreciate being able to stand up in it. Good luck on your hunt for the perfect home.
Yep! That’s the place MAV was. I found it curious when I saw the paintings there. Since reading your post it is definitely where MAV was.
Okay so I’m not crazy 😂 I was like “wait have I been here before?”
Came here to say this! lol
Out of the two you’ve seen I really like the first one and I think if it didn’t look like Frank and wasn’t from that era, there would be no hesitation. That being said, hesitation and not jumping in is smart. But it’s lovely and I think knowing it’s actually been driven on some longer stretches and also driven regularly in recent times helps. Keep looking though, you can always come back to it!
I loved van no.1 but not no.2 even though it had a full size bath tub in it 😎 I got excited when I saw the first van and was secretly hoping you'd snap it up, but you're being sensible not impulsive which is good 👍
Plus I would forgo that bathtub in a heartbeat because I feel like I was in my coffin tomb!
I have a 1992 Toyota Itasca RV and I cannot recommend it highly enough. Those who have these old Toyotas usually take great care of them and you can sleep up to 4 people, sometimes 6, very easily. They have showers, toilets, ovens, refrigerators, and more. You can usually pick up a pretty nice one built between '85-'93 from $10,000-$15,000. In any case, you asked which of the 2 in the video I would take and it would be the first one you looked at. Very well reconstructed, it would appear. If you're not using Craigslist for your search, you might give it a try. Lots of RV and photos you can see.
I'm going to be very honest here. If you are going to use something to travel around the US, then maybe look for something bigger and a lot newer. Currently RV sales are way down in 2022 and therefore large discounts are been given at the moment for RVs at the price range you were looking at in your video. Also to look out for is the fact that many states are now coming down heavily on people in vans and RVs, so make sure you also don't get caught out on that. I'm hoping you do find something suitable as I always love your videos.
So interesting! This is the second UA-cam video I've seen in the past week or so that focused on Van Alley in NYC. I hadn't known it existed before. I believe the gentleman who was selling van #1 was there working on his new project and said a few words to the other UA-camr. I definitely liked his rebuild better than the second, but I'd lean toward getting something newer with a few less miles. Have fun looking and enjoy the journey to find your new US motoring home!
I think it really depends on how many miles the vehicle has. I have an older mini van that will have things break just from age. It doesn't have high miles, but for example the cooling fan for the evaporative cooler went out just because it was plastic and that wore out from being in the elements. So with an older vehicle you will have problems even if it has low miles.
on the flip side the failures will often already have happened & been repaired.
I wouldn't worry about the year too much. For example, the first van, for example, has solar and new wiring all over. That's why you need to look for something that is safe. Older is sometimes better because any Chevy you can find parts for can fix it on the side of the road with a rock and a stick. I think the first van was very well built. I would focus more on upgrades and wiring. meaning, what has and hasn't been touched or redone. Stop looking at all the things you want and start looking at all the things that haven't been upgraded. Once you start to focus on that, you will see that it doesn't matter how old it is. You will start to see. These vans get 90% redone because they know how to redo them. A good builder won't skimp out on his work. It's like a master woodworker. Once you find a van that's close to being finished, there are several things you can do. For example, a car radio with GPS is not an easy issue. or you want to add more batter or better solar. The simple thing that would make it just that much better. I would also look for something that is EFI. Old school carbs can work well if tuned right, but it's just a matter of when they act up. Plus, high-altitude driving in the mountains can be a pain. If you have to change jets on a carb, so EFI, it will adjust itself. Besides that, just look for things you would do differently, like the wiring, like sticking your head in there, making sure everything is running right and grounded, etc., same with under the hood and under the frame.
Glad you’re being cautious this time. I love your channel. Of the ones you’ve shown in the video, I’d go for the first van but I would replace every hose or line that has fluid going through it. I’d also consider replacing the radiator and maybe even the water pump as well as all the spark plug leads. American vehicles even older ones still have parts available and there will be far more shops able to work on them than European vehicles. I would still have a thorough mechanical and safety inspection done. As everyone suggested though, please keep looking.
That 1st van is you. Why not buy the first van you see? Have it throughly inspected. All hose,belts,tires brakes you see where I'm going. Get all the maintenance records. The transmission and engine are your big ticket items. Take that van out on the highway for about and hour and you'll know right away if it's for you. Good luck with whatever you choose. I really like that 1st van!!
Love the first one. But you are right to take your time. Good luck Beans and enjoy your journey!!!!
Well, the Van's in van alley are pretty well kept. I've been watching them for a while now. And although they do drive they don't drive much, so they aren't putting alot of extra mileage on the rig. I think the one in van alley is cool. Just have someone check the engine. The engine is the main component. If that passes muster everything else can be addressed as you go along. Judging by your purchase of the van that was similar to that one I think that's pretty much your style.
Great to see you guys back at it! I think the first van you looked at was the best choice. It seemed to have the right space and the build looks similar to Frank (Hopefully safer though!). Can't wait to see you guys settled and on the road! Hopefully you also had a chance to see the Women Euro Final and watch the Lady Lionneses bring football home to England! ⚽️ 🏴🏆
I would not get something past 1990 and fir the US defiantly get a 4x4. I live in southern Oregon if you travel this way i would love to host ! I live on 80 acres and I also know a bit about vehicles.
The first van was better but lets keep this "REAL". You are in the USA, so that should absolutely be the smallest you should be looking at. It should have a Air Conditioner, Heater, Hot Water Heater, Shower and Toilet and Solar for off-grid and if you don't have a generator, get the Honda EU2200 suitcase generator (it will run the AC), best for small setups. 4x4 is NOT as important as pretty much everywhere we have gone off-grid has gravel roads at a minimum, and you just wont be going down a muddy road anyways with any RV and we are big off roaders too. The risks are just too high if you get stuck and trying to pull and RV out way down a muddy forest service road is krazy! Ask us how we know?
Stay away from the salty air places. Rust is a big concern. Also open the hood and look at the motor. Find something with low miles. The first van will be a gas guzzler. It’s way heavy. You need to look in the middle of the country, less money, no rust.
You two beans have been my most recent binge watching focus!
Your growth as beans and your adventures are really great to watch. Most of all, you two seem like friends we would love to get to know (including the introverted sides of yourselves).
Thanks for putting out such great content, and for sharing the good and the bad. Life is full of challenges and it’s important to show all sides to life, as you are.
Bean fan OUT
No old vans… no matter what the surface looks like. Do a short bus. It’s the best in-between size. Good luck!
Love following you two! Thank you for being cautious in your next van purchase. The first van was too cute! But did he update the engine and wiring etc as well as the esthetics??? I would really be careful buying such an old van. The second van was done on a shoestring and I would be concerned that everything was “MacGyvered” and the safety and function would be questionable. I sound like your mother…..Hahahaha Best of luck in your search!!!!
I know you seem set on a van, but a trailer with a pickup to pull it (IF you are comfortable with the precautions you need to take to safely pull a trailer) is a more logical choice in the US. You drop the trailer where you are going to be and you still have transportation. Remember, any campground you are likely to visit will be miles from a grocery store/bank/urgent care doctor/etc... If you go 'boondocking' you can use the pickup to haul water in and trash out without having to button everything up to move your living quarters. Plus, you could keep the trailer in storage when you go back to the UK, and sell the pickup. There will always be used pickups available and much easier to find (or rent) than a camper you like.
Hi guys great video. Ive worked on restored and been a gearhead all my life. As far as the dodge is concerned those did have transmission issues due to weight of the rv. Also they had electrical issues.even though its in such good kit i would suggest passing on it.
The sprinter on the othet hand is a great platform. Id wait and find one with a extended roofline for height. And obviously ac. They are a premium price due to newness though. Stay away from anything in 80s imo. You may want to consider a class c that has low miles itll have all the ammenitys your looking for and a chassis built for the weight. Anyway thatsmy 2 cents. Enjoy the hunt and take your own advice it sounds lije wisdom. Discovered your channel just before fred. Enjoying watching your journey btw. cheers
We love the first one but thirsty to drive across the USA.
But a SWB school bus would also be epic!!!
More likely to be diesel, younger, more space and the ability to bring all of the future beans along too.
4wd = the ability to get stuck when more remote and also takes away from money for the adventure.
Love the content!!
From these two would def go for the first one. From the previous camper you two told how much you loved standing up, the airco and space ovverall as an upgrade from the UK-van. Sorry I am terrible with names. So the second one is something I wouldnt pick in that case.
But like you said the age, if there is an option for same pricerange but younger a bit further outside NY I would def check that out first.
I've technically got the blue one (exact same measurements and model but from VW). It's a great Van to live in alone, but not so great for the 2 (+1) of you.
However - these Vans exist in different sizes (like the Vanwifes have) and could absolutely fullfill your needs, while being very reliant and reasonable with fuel consumption.
My two cents: Get a good newer cargo van and convert it yourselves! You can rent anything stateside (maker space and tools), and it's easy to receive parts even w/o a steady address (Mailboxes Etc ). Look for a Promaster, that's a Fiat Ducato = Peugeot Boxer, and there is a myriad of conversion parts (windows, roof vents and whatnot) that's specifically geared to that particular body style. Heck, you can do this in a Home Depot parking lot, while you live in the vehicle. You'll get exactly what you want and don't pay for somebody else's conversion. Courage, beans! Cheers from Germany- Folker
I like the first one! The one he's working on looks absolutely amazing! I know y'all will pick just the right one for you! Stay safe and have a great time! Love from South Carolina, Jane ❤🙏
I don't think you have seen THE ONE yet , keep looking and be relaxed about it as possible , you don't want to go old as you know what that brings and keep in mind all your needs. I am sure it's out there waiting for you , enjoy the process and what sight seeing you do alone the way.
I do like the first van, if you can find a good mechanic to ensure it runs well and all hoses, etc are in excellent shape. I've reviewed some of the comments and there are some very good points made.
Hey Emma and Alex. You are absolutely right: do not hurry in buying your next RV. Take your time and each time weigh the pros and cons each time you see , visit and test a van.
At first sight, van number 1 seems to have lots of advantages.
Once again, see other RVs and take your time in visiting and testing them. Please do not hurry in buying one.
Cheers and greeatings from France.
I would continue to look. I think you guys should get a mini bus because it would be great for starting a family in and there could be storage there's so many options for setup.
Van number one looks great. Looks well and maintained and the guy has renovated it really well. He also seems to know what he’s doing. I know it’s the first one you’ve seen but so far it’s definitely a possibility. As you said make sure you get a thorough check over by a qualified mechanic. Good luck for exciting times ahead.
NY city isn't the first place I think about when looking for a camper van, being the biggest city in the US higher sales tax . But who knows it may work out. Hope the best for you guys .
Seems like the absolute worst place to look, but maybe I'm wrong.
Ok, you may think I’m crazy, but Emma, I think you’re a natural for a talk show hostess. Like The Today Show or others. I think you would excel.
Maybe a show on a channel like HGTV.
Lovely to see you both looking so well. Best of luck with your search.👍😊💕
I have a 21 ft. RV C class so very easy to drive, it is a 2013 I believe or 2014 with very low mileage (around 45K). I'm getting ready to have the tanks swapped out for new ones, new A/C mini split units one in the bedroom, one in the "living room/kitchen/workspace and then solar on top and have to reseal the entire roof. CA sun damages the roof so fast!! I personally love the RV space, it's really lovely and it fits two people perfectly (we're small too 5'2 and 5'6) so no worries on roof space, LOL. I would recommend a younger model for your van or RV or mini schoolie, I totally see you both in a mini schoolie that is all set up with good air con and solar. GOOD LUCK!!! It's fun watching you find a new one.
Hello too both of you. Welcome back.
The process of finding the van of your dreams is a challenging adventure. I wish the best of luck to you both.
I will share that I had a1986 camper van which was identical to the first one you looked at. I had the van for many many years drive it from Texas to Rhode Island at least twice a year. When the kids were small it was something we excitingly looked forward to year after year. Unfortunately kids got older and bigger and well I am sure you can figure what happened next.
It was a 318 motor with a 727 transmission. Got between 10 to 12 miles per gallon. The 360 motor was another option for dodge. 360 uses more gas.
Things to check
1. Front end. Over time the steering box requires maintenance
2. Tie rods and steering components maybe worn
3. Brake caliper pistons (original calipers) can freeze closed. If replaced should not be a problem.
4. Wiper bushings under vowel (plastic) maybe ready to break.
5. Ujoint health should be checked.
The video did not say how many miles it had on it. Best of luck in your search. Looking forward to your next video.
Ohhh how old is roof ac?
If my only choices were the two you visited, the first one would be my choice. The guy said he renovates them and sells them so he seems to know what he's doing. It was also much more spacious and 'Frank-like". I hope you find what you are looking for!
Oh my goodness drew!!! He is SOOOOO good at what he does. Also drew don’t lie we all know you’ve had bad posture for years lol. I hope travel beans is smart enough to use your van!
If y'all see a Lance truck camper built before 2018. My husband and I bought a Lance trailer and we are happy with the quality of it.
They are also 4 season campers so you could hit the slopes if you're ever in the states in the winter.
Hi guys, I’m so excited for you both! My husband and myself are going to look at second hand motorhomes and hopefully when both my daughters have had there babies we can start our own adventure! I know two daughters two babies, there like the London bus you don’t see one for ages and then two come at once!😂 Good luck hope you find what your looking for and thank you for taking me with you xxxxx❤️
One thing that I have heard from Sprinter owners is that Mercedes treats them as the unwanted step child whenever they go into the dealer for any work. The Mercedes network in the US is geared towards the selling and servicing of luxury cars. Something to keep in mind since Sprinter vans are a popular option.
I was stunned a bit by the 11miles per gallon on the first van. When that van was built the price of a gallon was (even adjusted for inflation) half of what it is now. Modern vans still seem well under 20mpg.
US gallons are approx 83% of an Imperial Gallon. So 11mpg translates as about 14 mpg in Imperial terms. Damn! That's still going to end in the bankruptcy court pretty quickly!
1980s cars didn't have great mpg, plus the extra weight of the conversion, that class is not meant to be gas saving
A class B isn’t going to be a mpg leader lol. My 2020 Sprinter weighs about 9k pounds and 4x4 diesel gets 15-16 mpg.
Dodge had a 3500 van that had either a 318 V8 or the 360 V8. I owned a REFER 3500 Dodge and the mileage was terrible, about 10 to 12 mpg. you need to purchase a van with fuel injection if you purchase a Dodge. the Carb ones sucked
Yep, that's the difference with older vans. I'm currently driving a 6.25 metre Renault Master camper and that can achieve 30MPG on diesel without much effort.
Guys, great to see you’re back out and looking at vans! I too have a T4 in the UK, and love the simplicity of them. Prior to a LOT of the more complicated Diesel engines with ECU’s and sensors everywhere! For what it’s worth I think the first van is your best choice, whilst it’s old, the engine is simple, and parts should be relatively cheap. I do like a sprinter too, but just didn’t seem ‘finished’ IMO!
Wonderful Adventure as always! We owned Van 1 😊 and got it fairly new when we were in grad school and kept it for 4 years never had a single problem. The engine and transmission are great and the living design is well thought out. Very livable indeed.
Oh wow nice message guys
Oh one more thing! Check fuel lines and engine And everything underneath-put that van on a lift and video everything to make sure it’s safe for future Baby Bean🥰😊
Can the first dude (who seemed to be really knowledgeable, friendly and helpful) source you some options. I reckon he's well connected in the van scene and could probably find you something based on an exact spec. You could even work part time with him (maybe) in any work needed, customisation, mods etc. Could be a win win. Good luck with the seach, loving these vids so much Beans. X
Thank you for sharing your journey with us! It is very nice of you to ask us what we think. Be patient, keep looking. A newer van would be better for you in gas millage and maintenance cost. A couple other people suggest looking at Campers or RV’s. I think that’s a great idea, even if its only to compare and contrast. The right one is out there for you! Good luck! Thank you so much for sharing your life with us. Seeing you both is always a bright spot in our day!
The first van builder was on Mav’s UA-cam last week when he slept in that ally and chatted with Drew a couple of times.
Depending on the quality of the van’s life and how it’s been kept would get a second opinion asap or you stand a chance of losing the opportunity to buy it should someone else scoop it up.
Maybe look up the carfax to see the history if there is some data like for oil changes and accidents, etc.
Just comparing the two builds in this video by appearance prefer the first based on your needs, and think both likely are super sound as these men lived in the vans so they know their functionality.
Just my opinion as a shade tree mechanic for 35 years.
Plus, you looked in love with it for a lot of experience reasons knowing what to look for
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It is easy to be a couch critric but remember what happened to the last "old" van. I truely think you should keep clear of these older ones. If you can get a " newer"one it should be "safer". I do like following you and can't wait for you to start your explore. There are a few channels my wife and I follow in the USA who use 4wd vans. That way they can go further into the wild. But of course it has to met with your budget!! Oh the bane of so many of us. Love your content and english accent. We live in New Zealand so it is wonderful to see the world throu your eyes. Thanks so much. Sylvia and Ian
Em you’re absolutely right. Just have to get right back up on the horse. That can be a bit scary to get the same year. Nice in the inside but it’s important to fully understand what’s going on in the hood. Best of luck on you USA vacation home on wheels! 🚍❤️🙌
After your last experience, not just with the fire but with the mechanics before hand, I would go for a newer van. Not sure about the 4x4 option, might use more fuel unless you could get one with selectable 4 wheel drive. Looking forward to what you might find. ATB Simon (from Blighty).
you don't know that, any car that's been off the road that long would have all kinds of issues with dried up o-rings. most lily cause was the injectors seals leaking after not being in use for so long. happens all the time. dont blame the the mechanic for these guys lack of mechanic knowledge
All 4x4 vehicles (like the vans and trucks pictured) are selectable 4wd in the US. There are AWD vehicles, like Subarus, but they aren't true 4WD. There were very few places I actually needed true 4WD...mostly snow or sand or deep mud. 4WD will get you further but also get you stuck deeper
@@dawg7915 my thought process behind comment on the mechanic was related to poor customer service; have a look at the vlog with recorded calls between the beans and the garage. I didn’t make any reference to anyones mechanically ability.
Honestly guys, if you would expand your search to look for solar vans. The 1st van could break down but there was nothing for a back up. Always have a plan B.
Honestly believe you all should buy newer. The 80s vans seem to have the same issues with full tanks.
Great video guys!
Definitely Definitely without a doubt buy something built in the 21st Century. No matter how good an antique Van may look, once you use it regularly, the problems WILL pop out, with great regularity.
Consider two vlogs per week, 1st van looks great! 🤗🤗👍🏻👍🏻 This is so exciting, we are sitting on the edge of our seats!
Some of those old school bus type ones looked amazing. So much space and quite modern. I'd be hesitant to buy an older one as I'd always be worrying about it breaking down but that's just me. If you were to go for that first one I'd want to make sure it's not a common fault that happens with that style of van.
Buy the 1987 Van Right Away and then you have the option to simply replace all the fuel and brake lines, even if they're still in good condition for peace of mind. Bring in your expert to check out the engine block to make sure the engine and drive train is sound. Don't be worried about the age, as most RV's don't get driven in anylike manner as a regular car would. You also have the option of a natural gas conversion if you can't stomach the gasoline milage.
Yes to the Dodge 100%. The Merc sprinter no thank you . Used a sprinter at work for three years not heavy work either. Was so pleased to get out of it. Trouble after trouble and it's fuel consumption was terrible. After inspection the Dodge should be good, if it needs parts they are not that difficult to source even at that age. Good luck with the hunt guys. Very interested to be going along with you.
Basically Going with you on van views is good entertainment. So next 10 videos should be fun.
Yay! Back in the U.S.! And something that was absolutely amazing to me is that out of all of NYC, the street with the first van you checked out was the exact same street featured in Maverick's NY truck camping video of Jul 24: ua-cam.com/video/zGsllc_X6q4/v-deo.html, and even showed that van and its owner. Talk about coincidences. 😄
I paused it as soon as they turned down that street to see if anyone else had seen it as well. That's so weird and random. I wonder when Mav did his video compared to this one, and whether it was the guy who was doing builds too.
Hi..glad to see that you are back to the US to go van hunting...FYI ..beware any van that been in the northern part of North America..they use salt on the roads in the winters for snow & ice RUST..is not your friend when comes to doing repairs...just trying to help you out....Enjoy your hunt....
Don't rush..enjoy your time away and look at loads. Chill xxx
Just subscribed, really like your style .we are long time rv enthusiasts, with a deep knowledge of these vehicles. I feel what you’ve looked at so far is first off way too old and the second blue was just one poorly constructed. Rust on the undercarriage with this first one at this age can be a thing . Please know that 30 year old systems ( fridges and heaters, air conditioners ) etc don’t just keep working . What we do when shopping is have the fridge cold on arrival , run the furnace , cycle the air conditioning Run the water pump. Does the unit have a propane leak sensor, smoke detector, carbon monoxide detector .You will quickly start to get a feel on a units general condition. If it all works then take it to a really good rv tech and pay good money for a deep dive. Old is cool and cute, but can be a nightmare. Then the unit needs a whole separate mechanical inspection for the drive system, fuel system , look for electrical shorts.etc I’ve even seen a few of these old clunkers on the side of the road on fire. (Sorry) GO NEWER. Use you brain first , then fall in love with it. Good luck.