Shogun | Episode 1 | TV Reaction | First Time Watching | This Show Is Amazing!
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- Опубліковано 8 кві 2024
- The Year is 1600, and Mrs. Movies has no historical knowledge of this time... This should be fun! We dive into the Edo Era of Japan with Shogun (2024) from FX. Here's our reaction to our first time watching.
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It just gets better and better. Great decision to cover the show.
There was still an emperor in Japan. The Shōgun however contorlled all the Samurai which made him the de facto most powerful person in Japan. Not to mention that the emperor is the spiritual leader of the country as he is believed to be a deity. Where Teikos and Shōguns were the leading the secular aspect
Yup, at the end of the day, the only thing that matters is weapons and who can afford to buy the most people to use them.
yeah, for long periods of time, the Emperor was just a rubber stamp on documents for the Shoguns, the Emperors living in isolated controlled luxury,
The Taikō, although he is a warrior, is legally the Emperor’s Regent, so the strict delineation between secular and religious isn’t very clean in the Taikō’s case.
Guys actually the Pilgrims (Protestants) left for the Americas not because they were being persecuted but because they thought religious observance by the Church of England at that time wasn't strict enough. They were basically hard-core fundamentalist which goes someway towards explaining why Americans today tend to be more religious than their British cousins.
Thank u
More extreme, yeah.
That might not be false but it’s also a judgmental interpretation. I think the more neutral interpretation is that the pilgrims left because they cannot accept that a sovereign can choose the faith of their citizens, whether that sovereign’s faith is more or less strict that the citizens’ specific faith.
@@alesh2275 Not judgmental, just a fact.
@@alesh2275 Also you do realise don't you that they had no actual problem with the 'faith their sovereign chose for them' just how it was practiced which is why they stayed as Anglicans rather than creating their own branch of Christianity. If anything it sounds like you're the judgmental one mate.
You are the only guys I've seen from quite a few reactions I've watched of this show who recognised that the courtesan could read what Yabushige liked when she had him watch. It's a comment on both the character of Yabushige and the abilities of the courtesan, but nobody else seemed to get it.
The way the kneeled was intended to numb the legs to make it harder to spring up and attack.
Ayyyy! Very excited to see how you two like the rest of the series! It makes me sad that it's a limited series but happy because it doesnt allow hollywood to over-milk it.
Totally agree. My second favorite book ever.
It's based on a book that's based on historical events. It would be dumb to "milk" it by making stuff up.
@@TheMerovingiennebased on =\= actual. And hulu has it as limited series but FX has left it open ended for now. Never put milking past hollywood execs.
@@TheMerovingienneClavell never wrote a direct sequel to _Shogun,_ but there were a couple more major events in the life of Tokugawa (Toranaga) which could definitely make for as many as three more seasons if they were open to expanding the fiction of Clavell's world. In particular, the war between Toranaga and the heir of the Taiko, Yaechiyo, and his mother Ochiba -- which would happen about a decade after the events of this show -- would make for a complex, layered, and tragic conclusion to the saga, where Yaechiyo could be painted sympathetically and Toranaga's ruthlessness and underhanded trickery could cast him in a potentially more villainous light.
They indeed Traveling via Pacific because in the erlier scene the captain mention about they were moving through Magellan Pass/Channel which is located in southern of south america
And also they cannot go through india => Singapore way because portugese already had a Big base around Macau
Yes it was a new way discovered by the Portuguese (Magellan) which they had been keeping secret from the English, Dutch etc,. Up until then the only way known was going around Africa and under India to get to the Orient
The question was how the Portuguese came to Japan which very much was not through the Pacific as the journey around Afirca and then under India and China was longer but significantly easier. As the pacifc was a death sentence for most crews in 16th and early 17th century. It became more manageable 18th century but the Pacific only became truely viable after steam ships became a thing
@@QuixoticCowboy and even then we still dug a giant trench through Panama to make it easier
this has turned out to be a tremendously good show. Production values are great, the cast is great, the acting is great.
I remember the original series with Richard Chamberlain as a kid .... the one scene that sticks in my head is some of the European crew being boiled alive in a big pot .... Great family viewing !
The pot scene was brutal.
It’s interesting to see you guys getting into it now and asking questions. The show seems intentionally deliberate about doling out answers almost in a parallel of Blackthorne’s acclimation into Japanese culture. It’s a *still* a great show that’s gets better as it goes so hang in there as it will answer most questions that you have
This is the best series out to date
The Bear is better, this is second place.
@@reynaldolorenzo8409 True Detective Series 1, Deadwood, then Shogun.
@@nigelw7626 I took from the comment that this is the best show out to date, so 2024, none of those you mentioned are 2024. If we are counting all time, then Shogun isn't even close to the top 10 for me. Better Call Saul, Breaking Bad, Mr. Robot, Succession, Dark, True Detective S1, Sopranos, The Wire, Atlanta, The Leftovers, The Bear, Hannibal, Sherlock, Chernobyl, Fleabag, Barry, Severance, Arcane, Fargo, Mad Men, etc. Shogun is definitely an incredible show, but I wouldn't say it's in the top 10 of all time when these other shows have better acting performances, cinematography, writing, etc. It is definitely going to be in the in the top 5 of 2024, but yeah, I don't see how it's going to be better than The Bear when each season has been getting better and better and both seasons have been masterpieces, so I expect another Emmy's sweep from The Bear to be the best show of 2024.
This show is incredible!!!!
It's all about the head of the church. Spain and Portugal are Roman Catholics, with the Pope as the head of the church in Rome.
1534 Henry VIII established the Church of England (Anglicans) with the English monarchy as the head of the church. Which establish the conflict. Catholics vs Protestants.
i guess Martin Luther had nothing to do with starting the Protestant Reformation, huh? it was all Henry VIII...
No no no, Martin Luther kicked it all off by posting his protest to the door of Wittemburg Cathedral. Henry VIII originally wrote a well regarded tract against Protestantism before making himself head of the church in England in order to divorce his wife and loot the monasteries. It was Elizabeth I who finally established the church of England after the chaos of Bloody Mary's return to Catholicism.
The shenanigans on the continent evolved quite separately from what was happening in the British Isles; although ultimately the conflict was about Papal authority and the right to interpret the Bible.
The hatred between the English/Dutch and Spanish/Portuguese was as much political as religious: religion often proving able to provoke more hatred than any other difference of opinion . . .
@@kurremkarmerruk8718 no, no, no. While it's popular to consider Martin Luther the start of the Protestant reformation. There were many earlier groups that separated from the Catholic Church. With the Church of England forming forming later. The key is not all Prodestant groups are the same.
@@Dularr Yeah, that's basically what I said. Except, Luther is the beginning of the protestant revolution. Whatever came before, they weren't protestants as we understand the revolution. All these disparate groups with their various beliefs and agenda had one thing in common, they were anti Catholic, and couldn't be persecuted out of heresy like before.
FX makes great shows. Sons of Anarchy is top FX series.
At the time, Kyoto was the capital and home of the emperor, but nearby Osaka was where the actual power was. Shogun and Taiko were technically servants to the emperor, but in practicality, they were in charge. Tokyo, meanwhile, was called Edo, and was just an overgrown fishing village at the time. Its importance came in the decades and centuries that followed.
Also, technically, Yokohama is now Japan's second-largest city, but Osaka is still thought of as Japan's second city.
❤❤ I watched the original series and it fired my interest in Japan and its culture, I wasn't sure a remake would be as good but its better in my mind. It's glorious and beautiful, stunning attention to detail and brilliant acting.
This show is sooooo good. It just gets better and better as it goes, too. Nice to see you guys pick up on what's "English" and what's English. Looking forward to more reactions.
This has been a great series. The book, written by James Clavell, is a great book.
Another book he wrote, his first, was made into a movie in 1965. King Rat a great book and great movie that is worth a reaction
Agree!! A great movie like King Rat needs a reaction video from someone
Hell yeah, I'm happy you're watching Shogun!
Excited to go on this journey with you guys!
You should react to more 80’s miniseries. The Winds of War and War and Remembrance are great starts.
North and south
Soooo glad to see you guys check this show out!!
Great job with the subtitles, Much appreciated.
Love the editing and format! Probably the best I’ve seen. Easy to follow the reactions and scenes concurrently. while not infringing on copyright.
OMG YES! Pretty sure this is right up your alley! Can't wait for you guys to watch the rest of it!
This has been a fantastic series,you're in for a treat
I love it when Gojira shows up in Episode 4.
The 80’s miniseries was a big deal when it came out two years after “Roots.” I read the book and watched the 80’s mini when it originally aired. It is a good bit easier to follow though, like “Dune,” the modern production values are fantastic.
As far as religion goes, the Protestants broke with the Catholic Church in the Reformation led by Martin Luther in 1517. The head Priests in Japan were members of the Society of Jesus (Jesuits). They are kind of elitist Catholic missionaries. It’s way more complicated but this is all you really need to know to watch this show.
Blackthorne is an English navigator on the Dutch ship, Erasmus. They are on a mission to harass and disrupt Portuguese shipping and trade in the Pacific while also establishing trade with Japan. Blackthorne found his way to Japan using stolen charts (the book, also called a rutter). This is why the Portuguese keep calling him a pirate.
The Erasmus lands at a village run by Omi, son of Lord Kasigi Yabu. They are both vassals of Toranaga; one of the five Regents ruling Japan until the son of the Taiko reaches his majority. The Taiko unified the warlords and created the Council of Regents to maintain the peace and save his son. As with any government, it works best when the rulers disagree so that no one person or faction grows too strong. The only two Regents that matter are Ishido and Toranaga. Both want ultimate power and the title of Shogun though both deny it.
Episode One has Toranaga trapped in Osaka Castle, HQ of Ishido. Yabu was trying to hijack the cannons from the Erasmus to use as a bargaining chip in his quest for being on the winning side.
There were several excellent miniseries from 1975-1996:
Roots
Shogun
Holocaust
Centennial
The Thorn Birds
The Winds of War
War and Remembrance.
Glad y’all are doing this, show is stellar
i read the beginning of the book its funny you said, i think hes gonna jump oof those rocks. thats how his subordinate stopped him was by jumping and killing himself to get him to see the rope
Not necessarily all vying to become Shogun. Most probably wouldn't have dreamed it possible. Some may sincerely wanted to keep the heir in power.
European politics then was more complicated than implied - despite their (at that time very recent) difference over religion Portugal and England had an alliance that went back centuries and shared a dislike of the Spaniards.
The majority of Japanese I think are either Buddhist or Shintoist (their old native religion). There is a Christian minority who endured centuries of imaginatively brutal persecution from this time onward. By an irony of fate they were particularly numerous in Nagasaki where I *think* they had a cathedral at the time of the bombing.
Actually protestants left England to go to America because 17th-century England was too tolerant for them (which is saying something considering what a hell-hole it was). They wanted the freedom to freely indulge their urge to persecute anyone who didn't fit their interpretation of Christianity and Godly behaviour. Hence the enthusiasm for identifying and hanging witches.
Christians and Muslims also worship the same God. They just disagree about the nature and attitudes of that God.
I remember when I read the book many many years ago I was very impressed at how it portrayed the main character's psychological transformation as he gradually became Japanese.
During the closing of Japan, from 1603 to 1853, the Dutch were allowed a trading post at Nagasaki and were the only Europeans given this status. Despite being English, Blackthorne (and his real historical counterpart, William Adams) sailed with a Dutch merchant company during the time period depicted in the novel/series.
Now both England and the Dutch Republic were at war with Spain in the period, as the Dutch Republic had broken away from Spanish rule in 1566, but as Portugal and Spain had been joined under the Iberian Union in 1581 (basically the King of Spain claimed the crown of Portugal after its prior king died without a direct heir) this eventually brought Portugal into the conflict, too, and at the time depicted in the novel/series Dutch privateers had taken to raiding Portuguese convoys and colonies, and seizing their trade routes.
The religious nature of where Japan fits into this conflict is a bit oversold in the novel/series, IMO, as for example none of the members on the actual Council of Regents were Catholic converts (though there were daimyo, or lords, who did convert), but for about a hundred years, from 1540 to 1640, there was an ebb and flow of toleration and persecution of missionaries and converts based on whether or not particular feudal lords viewed them as either a strategic asset or an intolerable disruption, and over that time the "intolerable disruption" argument had pretty much won out. The Shimabara Rebellion in 1637, which was the first major conflict in Japan in decades and involved an uprising of Catholic peasants, pretty much convinced the powers that be to outlaw Christianity entirely, and relentless persecution was the official policy until the period of isolation ended.
In the time period this takes place the dominant religion was Japanese Buddhism.
i love the popcorn outro!
Richard Alpert and Dogen from Lost reunited!
Love this series!! Interesting fact - i was watching this japanese historian react to this series and he said that the show is pretty dead on accurate with the culture, clothing, armor, footwear, etc of 1600 Japan. They are even speaking the Japanese dialect from 1600 Japan and not modern Japanese.
Anna Sawai, who is fluent in Japanese naturally, said she had to learn a completely new traditional Japanese for the show
The fringe religious groups like the Puritans came to the New World to have freedom from the Anglican majority in England. Spain and Portugal were the super-powers of the time due to their maritime explorations and later exploitation of other regions of the world (Africa, India, Asia). Holland and England at the time were secondary powers trying to fight against these super-powers.
Watching clips that compare the Richard Chamberlain series vs the 2024 series.
Shogun is like the power of the 5 regents put together into one person.
Five ships and five hundred men wasn't an invasion fleet, but a decent Trading and exploration fleet.
At the best of times in this period, if you sent five. You'd be lucky to get one or two back.
And Blackthorne had to bring the ships across the Pacific, from the America's. That's why in the book, they are referred to as Eastern Barbarians.
The Portuguese are called Southern Barbarians.
The Portuguese and Spanish had bases and ports in Africa, India, China and the Philippines.
So British and Dutch ships were fearful of that route. The Dutch learned to use the Roaring Forties, strong trade winds along the 40th degree of latitude from South Africa to Australia and then North to Indonesia.
They were privateers sent to Asia to disrupt the lucrative Portuguese trade in the region which was financing the Iberian Union's (Spain and Portugal) war against the English and Dutch. Sir Francis Drakes fleet of privateers which decimated Spanish trade in the America's also consisted of only five ships.
@StuSaville Licenced Pirates, with Letters of Marque from, in this case Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth.
@@StuSaville in the book they were attacking Portuguese ships and towns in the Americas, then when they had to flee the pilot took them towards Japan. They were never intended to go therel
Wow this show is so awesome and i’m glad y’all are watching it!
Also, Mrs. Movies natural hair is beautiful.
Think of the 30 Years' War in Europe, in which Protestants and Catholics fought against each other. Starting in 1618 with the "Defenestration of Prague" and ending with the "Peace of Westphalia" in 1648. Names like Tilly, Wallenstein or the Swedish king, Gustav Adolf, who fell in this war, should tell you something.
I was Blessed to witness the first Series on TV, so long ago (Yikes, I'm OLDE!). Richard Chamberlain will ALWAYS be 'My' Angin, but this remade Series is certainly honoring the book/characters, and the modern effects/eye candy only makes it better viewing!
actually still remember the unforgettable theme myself. 😄 this version is actually much easier to follow for me and is only lacking the bombastic soundtrack of the original.
@@vinsanity40k
Well, it's always nice to see 'Improvements!'
:-D
🎉🎉🎉You reacting to Shogun!🎉🎉❤❤
I know EVERYTHING about SHOGUN! Watched Original TV Series in 80s with Richard Chamberlain which was awesome! Then I Read The Book, which is massive thick when I got banged up in prison for kicking sum guys ass! But, make no mistake, this re-make is Genius Perfection on so many cultural levels you can't possibly understand!❤️
Blackthorne thought the japans were full of savages because the Portuguese and Spanish put that out there to keep other sailors away. They guarded that secret so they could have all the trade. Plus some other reasons that will be in future episodes.
The 80's series was amazing.
It's a brilliant series, beautifully made and really well acted. I'm on episode 8 and it's still as excellent as this episode.
Tokyo did not exist in 1600. The main cities where Kyoto, Osaka and Edo
you & me - Japan had many Branches of Buddhist religions , Mainly Shinto & Buddhism
Shinto - is Indigenous to Japan.
its a Polytheistic & Animistic religion. Supernatural beings called KAMI .
Buddhism was imported from China.
However there are many sub- Genera of Buddhism in Japan.
it wasn't until contact w/ the Portuguese & Jesuit priests that some Japanese adopted Christianity Catholicism 95%, and Protestant being a minority.
Ishido was also the dad in monarch
Its tough at first to digest but Hopefully she'll get more into a dope show that was not only 10 years in the making but will indebly win the emmys for Best Picture, , Director, Actor, actress, supporting a tor, actress, best screenplay, best costumes, best cinetography, etc..etc... and not get too bored as it progresses to episode 10. Here's to hoping/fingers crossed.
Shogun means what "emperor" originally meant in Rome: A military dictator. What is erroneously translated as "emperor" in Japanese society just means king.
When it comes to religion in Japan at this time, the primary 3 would be Shintoism, Buddhism and Catholicism (Catholic Christian). Issue is in two of the cases they're more of a local interpretation of said religion. Shintoism is what you can call the homegrown religion of Japan. Buddhism is modified to fit Japanese beliefs. Catholicism has also been modified in a way so people in Japan can understand it or at least attempt to. In Shintoism for example everything including a humble rock has a spirit. So try explaining a Monotheism religion like Catholicism to a culture that believes like that. Buddhism kind of works in Japan primarily because Buddhism is more of a way of life and a system built around people have the potential to becoming 'gods' per se. Meaning it isn't really monotheist and implies many gods can and do exist. It's also why Buddhism actually functions very well alongside other religions because it will normally not deny that another god, or gods exist.
There is a film called "Silence" from 2008 which I think is a great sequel to this series if you want to understand some of the religious hostility that existed in Japan. You see some of it in this series, and it's focus around a number of Japanese Christian characters is very welcoming. Silence deals with events well after this series, and the eventual banning of Christianity in Japan. The main character Blackthorn the real life counterpart of that character was actually quite important when it came to the road that lead to Christianity being banned in Japan.
It gets better ;-)
you guys should look up the protestant wars in europe to have an idea....
Spain and Portugal were at war with England in 1600 during the rule of Queen Elizabeth.
The English were protestants when they colonized North America. The Spanish and Portuguese were Catholics.
The Spanish became the richest and most powerful nation on Earth after they conquered the Aztecs of Mexico and stole the Aztec gold.
Would be awesome if you reacted to the original mini series after this.
Glad you two are jumping in to this.
The much beloved & revered book by James Clavell was based on actual Japanese 17th-18th century history. The tv miniseries in 1980 was one of the first epic tv mini series & groundbreaking. Also, it was culturally important as it piqued interest in Japanese history & culture by US audiences of the historically insular nation of Japan. In the 70’s brands like Sony, Honda, Toyota & others started becoming household names but this period of the 70’s - 80’s saw the explosion of imported Japanese culture which is why we now have so much around like sushi restaurants, Japanese cars, anime, etc. It was culturally significant as it had a hand in all of this.
So this remake had huge shoes to fill because the book & 1980 show were critically acclaimed & much loved. And they did not disappoint. The 1980 TV show had one of Japan’s greatest actors of the 20th Century playing Toranaga, Toshiro Mifune. Now Hiroyuki Sanada is arguably one of Japan’s greatest actors & well known to US audiences. The show is amazing as everything from the acting to the sets to the costumes & cinematography are top notch.
I’m a yankee New Yorker & American but my Mom is Japanese so I grew up with Japanese culture & influence in my house. So Shogun has a special place in my heart. It’s a great book & story & both tv shows are great. I am so happy that they outdid themselves with the remake & that people are loving it. Even if a show is great it doesn’t mean that it will be popular or well received. E.G. AMC’s Turn about the American Revolution & Washington’s Spies was great but not popular. Shogun is amazing but it’s also be a hit & critically acclaimed.
Also, you two are in for a treat. It’s one of the rare shows that gets better with every episode. Enjoy! Excited to watch your reactions. You’re going to love it methinks.😉👍🫡😃
Ah yes, Episode 1: _Anjin._ You're in for a *_wild_* ride. Enjoy!
Japan's religions at the time were mainly Shinto and Zen Buddhism.
Tokyo (then known as Edo, and Toranaga/Tokugawa's main city) was at the time smaller than Osaka, which was already quite developed. But the real capital of Japan/Nihon during that time was Kyoto, which was the Emperor's city.
Note though that the Taiko was not the Emperor. He was one of the Emperor's highest-ranking subordinates. What made him noteworthy was that he helped unify a fragmented nation, with many warlords constantly fighting each other for a long time.
The Japanese historically are Buddhist and Shinto I believe.
you & me - so Sailors & Pirates alike wore Eyepatches , to help them see Better in the dark.
Next on Samurai Hit Man!!
Marco Polo, (2014) ❤🙏❤🙏❤🙏
Wpuld love to see you react to Fallout. It's amazing!
The Emperor has no power--then, and even now. Back then, they had whomever has the most power rule for them.
Now, they have nothing to do with the government of Japan, they're symbols of the 'soul' of Japan.
There are some big differences between Protestant and Catholic, a lot of it has to do with how the catholic pray to Mary and all those saints and that the traditions of the church are equal to the bible. Protestants basically believed that all of that is idolatry and blasphemy and that if the bible says one thing and the church something else the church is wrong. and Catholics treated them as heretics. It is complicated without turning this into bible school or starting a fight.
Spain and Portugal were the first Western Nations to sail to Japan.
It took me until episode 3 to realize Hulu had an English dub. I know it's not as 'authentic', but I'm trying to watch a show, not read a novel.
Can I possibly suggest a trailer reaction to a possible future show reaction? Epixs From
How little can you know about history??? That women: Nothing!
Martin Luther posted his 95 Theses on the doors of All Saints Church in Wittenburg on October 31, 1517. This was the start of the Reformation. Conflicts between the new Protestants and the French Huge aura and the English were vicious, brutal an bloody. Spain, Portugal, and Italy as well as their trading partners remained fiercely loyal to the Roman Catholic Church, overlooking the Ninety five points of contention the young Wittenberg University student Luther proposed in an effort to redeem the Catholic Church from its worst sins including selling Plenary Indulgences (official amnesty from Pugatory) and selling of relics of Saints and alleged worship of said Saints and the elevation of Mary almost to the same reverence as the Triune God {Father, Son and Holy Spirit). Europe was the site of numerous battles and depriving Portugal of the riche of trade with Japan was a strong motivator at the onset of Clavelle's novel.
Osaka is the Capitol of Japan until the new city of Edo (Tokyo) is constructed.
This doesn't follow the book super closely, it's condensed even from the original mini -series but I like it better than the original but you should read the book.
Protestants didn't leave for the US. Puritans did, ie the extremists
This retelling is much better than the 80s series because the 80s series was two 2 hour movies cramming as much as possible. The new version allows the story to be properly told, giving more details
The original 80s series was 6 parts and 14 hours long in total.
The original series was as long as this one and one of the closest book to tv adaptions I have ever seen. Love the new one but its nothing like the book. It’s got its own thing going on.
Was your first viewing on VHS or syndication? The initial home release was a “theatrical” cut - a heavily edited version on VHS tapes. This theatrical cut was made around the time the series aired in the US for release in foreign markets
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Can we go see a Tom Hardy movie?
We have Tom Hardy at home.
Great editing
SHO-O-goon is how it's pronounced in Japanese. The line over the O means you say the O for longer than a syllable.
'GU' in Japanese sounds like 'Goo'
Ah-Ō-ga
Please forgive me, I'm about to be "that guy."
The macron over an O represents an OU combo in Revised Hepburn. The diphthong most in the US would use to pronounce the word "oh."
In a one to one Hiragana to English, the word would be "sho u gu n".
It’s pronounced “show-goon”.
I like you guys but you need to knowa couple of things about this show. It is not your average "dumbed down for Americans " action packed , fast paced samurai show.
It is a work of art that assumes its audience either has or acquires a basic primary school understanding of history.
they made it extremely hard to follow the plot
Just a point of note:
The pronunciation is not "SHO-GAHN!"
It's closer to, "ShO-O-GOON" ,.....or.... "SHO-O-GOUN"
The "SHO-GAHN" way that Americans and Westerners pronounce it as it almost as bad as when you call the country "EYE-RAHN" (Iran) and not as it should be correctly pronounced, "EE-RAHN".
It's particularly egregious becaues neither in the English language nor in Arabic (or Persian), do you pronounce words that begin with the letter "I" following by a hard consonant that way (irrational, irregular, irredeemable, irresponsible, .......so why "EYE-raahn"?????).
The only one I can think of where you do is the "made up" iPad or iPhone.
Okay,.....also "irate",.....but that is strictly an exception to how you pronounce those kinds of words.
You should have reacted to the original miniseries Shogun made in 1977 based on the novel by James Clavell, who himself was a POW in WWII with the Japanese. the 1977 version starred Richard Chamberlain and Pilot Major John Blackthorne, The character of Blackthorne is actually based on a real English navigator William Adams who did pilot five ships from Rotterdam in Holland, but their real destination should have been around Peru, but it was A Spanish colony and Holland and England were at war with the Spanish so they opted t go to Japan 2 ships were lost at cape horn and one with its crew remained in Hawaii the rest sailed off to Japan, when they got there most were sick. in any rate William Adams was the first European to ever be a Samurai warrior and own his own estates in Japan.
As for persecution, Catholic controlled areas were still torturing and burning protestants at the stake.
The series is a nice portrayal of the Europeans and the Japanese. Both brutal and uncivilized in their own way. The boiling scene made me cringe though. It was rather stupid and unnecessary. You would pass away from the shock or your brain would just go out from the heat long before the water reached boiling temperature.
A Shogun is a Samurai Lord who becomes a Military Dictator.
For better understanding, I would suggest you two watch 1980's series (with Richard Chamberlain). It is much easier to watch for westerners.
Don't get me wrong, both series are awesome, but as I said it is much easier to understand what's happening - storywise (and has Gimli in it)
t's so ridiculous that I can't stand watching ashigaru running around with bows and arrows.
This is the extent of the Japanese-themed dramas produced by America.
And this is why we have separation of church and state these days.
The 1980 miniseries is much slower paced and explains things better.
There is a dub English version on Hulu for the Japanese speaking moments. In stead of having to read subtitles
I would have recommended reading the Book first, since it's been well regarded for the better part of sixty years.
I wouldn't recommend the 80s miniseries. Though it's production values are excellent and it's Japanese cast, on point.
Having Dr. Kildare in the lead was a god-awful decision. Richard Chamberlain is not a good actor.
lol. and i think they used more modern japanese. this 2024 series is using an older japanese dialect to be more authentic. on top of being very strict about using the natural lighting of the period too (which is pretty much just lamplight).
@@vinsanity40k Yes, much much different from the 80s version. And using period-correct Japanese was the first step to putting them in the right mindframe.
Tip: Watch the original starring Richard Chamberlain and Toshiro Mifune. It was a sensation back then. Why remake something that worked so well as opposed to something disappointing, as John Huston said -- and he knew what he was talking about.
That is a terrible 'tip'. The modern series is excellent and certainly not a pale imitation.
The original miniseries is garbage, with dumb stereotypes. This is much closer to the book.
Tip:both shows can be great
I mean, by that logic, Shakespeare never should have written Hamlet, considering it's a remake. Nor should My Fair Lady exist because it's a remake of Pygmalion. No Ben-Hur with Charlton Heston either, because that too is a remake.
@@Bnio Your argument is for John Huston. He's the one who said it.
the more i watch, the less i like. they turned the main character, Blackthorne, into a secondary character. and he and Mariko fell deeply in love.
this is not a very good adaptation of the novel.