Hi I saw you trying to drill out the lock on the x3 was it damaged so the key could no longer access the lock? That is my only worry, however due to your video and my 125 being stolen with an angle grinder from my work just over a week ago (it was recovered luckily but in bad shape unfortunately) I have bought two litelock x3 to secure my kawasaki ninja 250 :)
It's amazing that its that two British companies are pushing the tech use in the portable lock market forwards whilst the likes of Kryptonite and Abus haven't done anything despite being huge with loads of resource available. Angle grinders are the biggest threat now so its great to see some decent protection against them starting to appear. Great video John
They have not bothered if they don't need to spend anything if anyone just buys their old stuff. This is great to see more inovation and not just a new lock using old outdated tech.
@Michael Conlogue diamond wheels are not very good at all on metal strangely. I use them on tiles daily, but even cutting through a bit of aluminium will be far quicker with a metal cutting disc.
Another brilliant video. No marketing fluff, just an objective test with results demonstrated. It's good to see manufacturers are slowly gaining ground against the angle grinders, I'll be getting one of these once I upgrade to a motorbike that's worth more than the lock 😂
Good that you tested drilling it. Hardly any lock reviews do this yet it normally takes about 10 seconds to drill out a cylinder. Far quieter than grinding too. This looks like an excellent lock.
It is. I locked up my Tern Verge X11 (£2500). To go in waitrose. When I came out some toerag had been trying to grind it. I knocked him out with my ergon saddle.
@@bennettsbikesocial do you have any idea when they will be available? Bike recently got stolen and recovered and this looks like a must have to make sure it doesn't happen again. I'm planning on putting around the front tire of my 2020 Africa twin, I hope it fits!
Litelok should make a series of chains using the same material so you can use this lock to link the chain to a fixed immovable point so the bike can't be picked up. Since the weakest link is usually the chain, I think that would be a good business decision. Another product of similar inability to cut through.
I have an x3 and it's so short and narrow the only place I can use it wolthout a chain is through the spokes. doesn't fit around either wheel, or through either brake disk. bit disappointed the spokes are now the fairly easy to cut weak spot
@@mmm357m yes I've found the same, too much clutter around the disk to feed it through and not wide enough to get the rim and the tyre through. Trying to decide whether to return it or to strip the protective rubber and coat with bright tape.
@@Bunter1815 Just throwing this idea out there, haven’t thought it through enough to pick it apart. How about modifying it to fit through an area in the brake disc or hub by cutting through the straight part of one side of the U, then grind down the diameter thickness of each side of the cut enough so that each cut side can just fit through the hole in the hub or discs, and then meet in the middle, where accessibility of a tool is near impossible. The ground down diameter of the separated sides won’t be able to be exposed by sliding it through one way or the other, because the original thickness is too much to fit through and it’s snuggly butted up against each hole entrance. The tough part would be to get the tolerances just right so it can’t be wiggled to one side or the other to expose the ground down thinner diameter. I dunno in my head it works but would be very specific to your bike and would likely make it useless in other applications.
Thanks for the very thorough test, John. In fairness to LPL, he has often said that on-street thefts are generally brute-force attacks and very unlikely to involve anything but the most basic 'picking' tools and techniques.
@@bennettsbikesocial LPL keeps saying it, but in different words: "it requires special tools and skills and is probably beyond a novice picker". Additionally, thieves (assuming they're rational) are supposed to use the easiest way to steal, which was a grinder attack. If this lock is a game changer, a new method will prevail. It might be a lock picking or something else, like a garage door opener hacking. So it would be unwise to completely ignore the pick resistance of your locks.
@@dyurchyk Pick resistance isn't ignored - it's part of the certification for Sold Secure. We'll continue to keep trying to engage with LPL, but he seems pretty busy with his shop.
At the end of the day the only lock manipulation attacks (not full picking) I've heard of thieves actually using are things like comb picks, raking, bump keys and shimming of padlocks (along with snapping euro cylinders) I have never heard of any common thief using skilled picking as an attack unless they are the super specialised type that tends to steal artwork or jewellery from vaults
Glad I saw this, I was just about to buy an X1! X3 is best bet. Crazy we have to spend so much on security out and about and at home for our bikes. I’m originally from the Highlands and never locked our houses, left keys in unlocked cars out and about, to town, to the pub, never would get stolen. Moved to London, holy crapola, I had to get pannier bags to hold two chain and locks, two disc locks, had to get Datatag, Tracker just to get my insurance down which was 3 times more to what I paid up North lol. Crazy times we live in now! Great vid, thanks for the reassurance now on the X3 👍👍🍻🍻🏴🇬🇧
I completely agree on the colouring of the locks. Black is easy to forget about. Countless times I tried to move my bike with a disk lock on that wasn't really brightly coloured, only being saved by having the engine being off. I even wrecked the disk on my current bike when I tried riding with it still attached. For a finish, I've gone with a very bright disk lock with an alarm from Oxford (as well as a big chain). Yes, that alarm is for me as much as deterring any thieves - 2 years and not even a hint of forgetting to take it off. So maybe bright coloured lock and a lock alarm?
know its an old comment but I put a elasticated bungee cable from my lock and loop it over the front brake lever to remind me its on. think we have all tried riding off with a disc lock on before :)
You work hard for this channel and get a lot of respect from the motorcycle community. Off topic, as you have already covered, I look forward to seeing actual reviews of the 2023 Niken GT when it's released and any comparisons to the 2022 and before versions. I've enjoyed your plenty of Niken content over the years. As for bike theft, there aren't many things that make my blood boil more, especially seeing thieves in action. It's great seeing them nabbed by the police, though. Thanks for your hard work, it doesn't go unnoticed.
nice to see companies doing R&D on this stuff to prevent theft. clearly in a lot of places, both US and UK, the government, cops, or even bystanders aren't doing anything, so having companies take the initiative to develop and offer solutions is a nice thing to see
Great video not only for motorcyclists but also for bicycle owners, especially the more expensive ebikes or cargo bikes. Shame some more established companies have no such locks in their offer.
What is an expensive Bike to you? I am waiting for a 2k€ (conventional) bike and plan on splurging on the lock. I think even "cheap" bikes should be well secured.
@@Raz0rking One can buy a second hand bike or a new "supermarket quality" bike for a fraction of what you paid, closer to the value of the lock. One determines oneself what is "expensive" and "cheap" in comparison to the item secured. Don't try finding controversy where there isn't one!
@@ukrytykrytyk8477 I aint looking for controversy. Everyone should splurge on a good lock. Imagine you get a bike for 300€ and a lock for 20€ and you get it stolen. One is still out 300+€ because one did skimp on a good lock.
@@Raz0rking You're looking for controversy because you are assuming that the only options out there are cheap locks and the most expensive one, while in reality there are many choices. Look at SoldSecure clasifications. One can get Gold rated lock for 30-50 euro/pound/dollar which would be adequate for many.
In the case of this product, 4 discs (!) and time, time, time......that's the key, as you've pointed out so often. I really love your videos, John. Thanks, buddy!
Tip I was given to not lose the angle grinder key : It's a good idea to cable-tie the angle grinder spindle key to it's plug to remind you to unplug it when you're swapping discs, so you don't accidentally start it and take your fingers off.
Got an X1 Moto coming as it's the best I could afford, that will be the 8th security device I have on my motorbike. What sort of world are we living in where you need multiple security devices sad times. Thanks for your test though very reassuring and helpful
I believe my whole bike is worth less than either of the angle grinder resistant locks. And the result could be the thief cutting through the frame. :-/
I commute into Manchester City centre daily and I currently have 3 of Oxford hd max disc locks, a crappy ‘alarm’ disc lock and a nice big chain and padlock (that being left in the parkin bay) I’ve tried to make my bike look a royal pain in the arse to pinch! If it’s 30 seconds per lock that’s 2 and half minutes the thieves will have to be going at my bike. I will be buying one of these litelocks!!!
I have watched several videos testing bike locks. No one has actually done the tests under ALL of the following conditions. 1. Use portable grinder popular with thieves. 2. Include in the tests the time to change out blades and batteries on the portable grinders. In real life that time would add to cutting the locks. 3. Locking the bike locks in a more realistic scenario wrapping the rear wheel, frame and bike rack. 4. Additional second or third lock wrapping around front wheel, frame and bike rack. 5. Steps to take if you encounter thief while in progress.
Great stuff, I think the X3 is going on my shopping list. I’ve currently got one of the big liteloks which has been a bit disappointing in terms of not being nearly as practical as it looks like it might be. It’s big enough to be awkward to carry but not long enough to attach to a lot of things (bearing in mind that lampposts and railings are usually set back from the kerbside)
With thanks to your hard work testing these locks just done 100 mile trip and you have cost me £300 on the dx1000 thank you 😂 very robust heavy lock to add more pain unlocking even more locks on my bike 👍
Thanks very much for such an informative and objective assessment. I’ve just ordered an X3. For anyone else who’s interested, it’s worth ordering today as the current pre-order run (which is discounted) expires at midnight.
Looks brilliant if expensive. I imagine people from various countries watch these videos despite the content being more UK specific. It's worth pointing out that in some countries e.g. Spain it isn't legal to lock your bike to street furniture, and unlike the UK, motorcycle parking areas do not have anchors for securing the bike. As such everyone just relies on disc locks. Thought it's worth saying so those on tour don't end up with a ticket for chaining their bikes up.
Another chance for some anger management therapy! I always find your testing vids extremely helpful for how thorough and informative they are. Absolutely brilliant, thank you. 👍
Why? Register the number - or just write it down - and Litelok can send you a replacement! Or if you're prone to losing one, then order an extra (or 2) when you get your lock so you don't have to go without. Come on people!
Just seen this video as part of my research for a decent lock for my partner, her bike was stolen last summer despite being locked and chained in an area with other bikes present that weren't locked at all! The Lock in question was an Oxford Boss alarmed D shackle and Oxford 12mm chain (both quite old admittedly). Anyway, this is an excellent video, no shilling just an honest real world test. This lock has to be on the shortlist, thanks for your Efforts in producing this. Cheers. Regarding the colour you could always use some bright yellow vehicle wrap for the time being until they introduce some brighter colours from factory, just an idea.
Congrats on 100K views on the Litelok locks! Good knowing more and more people learning about these locks. Wished you showed the Litelok Core Plus Moto against the cable cutters and angle grinder as a worthy upgrade from the Litelok Gold more than just your review on the website.
My ebike got stolen on Monday while I nipped into the supermarket for no more than 5 minutes. Had it locked to a bike stand with a kryptonite evolution lock and it seems they got through it very quickly with an angle grinder and they were probably lying in wait. It sucks because I relied on the bike for work. I think this lock would be ideal for me and it is larger than my kryptonite so can lock it to more things and is far stronger.
Also I wonder if we will ever see these kind of materials used in security chains, if that happens, it will make it a hell of a lot harder for thieves to steal our bikes!
it might not work because chains are thin enough to cut with hand tools but I wouldn't know for sure. it would be nice if it worked and they made them that way
@@artofthereal my point is I can't see them making a chain as thick as a d lock , If you get too thin you will probably be able to cut through it with cutters. Now I could be wrong but I don't have a way to test it. But the thinner you go the less strength it'll have
What about cutting the aluminum spoke instead the lock ? Even the frame if needed.... The Tree.... The road sign... Whatever is softer and easy to cut?
I have the same question, this lock doesn’t fit over my tire and costed $325. I put it through my disc brakes, however I’d imagine those are way softer than the lock itself…
Bike trac grab bag john as recommended its a good set up for me. Use an additional disc lock as well. The locks you show are a great addition in the armoury. Fabulous videos as always
Another great test - thank you! I'd be interested to see how these new lock types stand up to different disc types. I've seen one vid where a diamond disc seemed to make short work of the X1 after the normal discs were destroyed and they fell back to the last disc they had (which seemed the most effective tbh). I have to applaud the progress though and great to see this being taken seriously with some real innovation.
@@bsidethecside2283 I can tell you that a diamond disc will get through it, but it's not quick, and you need a high-torque mains grinder to make any real progress. There'll always be something that can cut any product, but this is extremely resilient. Cheers, John
@@bennettsbikesocial okay, wasn't aware of that. All good info and a slow cut is an unsubtle and brazen attack. Probably on the edge of being realistic as you may well end up rinsing the battery before making the 2 cuts needed for a well positioned D lock . Thanks again!
@@bsidethecside2283 No worries! I need to rent a 54V top-end grinder and do some more bench-mark tests when I can, but thieves typically use grinders stolen from vans, so ones not in tip-top condition, and they rarely have their hands on the £400-£500 grinders. Mains grinders can be a lot more powerful, and faster than battery grinders, so it's important to understand that this kind of testing is purely for comparison. Real world attacks tend to take even longer!
In before a John gets inundated with a million comments bringing up Lockpicking Lawyer and how all locks are useless because every bike thief is obviously just as skilled at lockpicking as him, lol.
Thank you for showing us how they hold up. I Have never used D Locks before but the way you used them on your wheel has opened my eyes, not only the fact that these Locks held up real nice. 10/10. PS I was unsubbed somehow so I resubbed :)
Impressive, no doubt about it. If we worried about everything we'd never ride and that lock and a disc lock under a cover would be an excellent setup. Really good work, thanks for sharing Happy, safe travels 👍
There will always be the 'yeah but' brigade but as you point out, in the real world... Appreciate the effort and information. I use an original Litelok with other locks when out, my logic being, the more on my bike the more chance of the scumbags passing me by. Cheers Brady
Fantastic lock! Great anti pick core too. Well worth the investment on top of insurance. We now have 3 great options on the market for anti angle grinder locks. I might get one as in upgrade to my Kryptonite forgettaboutit D lock. Most locks on the market are rated against Bolt cutters and not grinders so this is great to see. I wish you tested it against the twist attack though. Lesson is if you can lock this lock to your bike....then put it through the wheel not the spokes if it fits and anchor the lock down with a decent security chain.
It’s not a motorcycle, but I bought my first electric scooter about a year ago. I freakin loved that thing and from the first ride I knew I was going to always have one. I went to Home Depot and bought the biggest lock I could find and it cost me $60. The chain was huge too and I truly knew I had a solid security setup. 6 days after buying my scooter I rode it to Walmart. I chained it to the bike rack and walked inside. I was inside for under 10 minutes to buy 3 items. I know because I arrived at 10 minutes before closing and walked out just as they were locking the doors. I rounded the corner and it was gone. Chain, lock, scooter, all gone. In under 10 minutes. I was devastated. The security in the parking lot didn’t see anything and tried to avoid me when I went to talk to him. The doors were locked to the store and 5 or 6 employees had to try as hard as they could to pretend they didn’t see me banging on the door. So I called the police and waited for over 2 hours for an officer to show up. He treated me like I was the criminal. My scooter goes into the store with me now wherever I go. If they don’t like it I don’t shop there. But the only real way you can leave your electric scooter behind anywhere and not worry about it at all is to put an Apple AirTag under the deck board. If it is ever stolen I can track the location of it right up to the front door of the house that it goes and knock on the door and I imagine they puked be so freaked out that they would give it back to me. Either that or the cops could come.
As @leeroykeankins7781 mentioned, Airtags can be useless for this task because of the anti-stalking "feature" they have. Tile trackers are much better in this respect because they have an "anti-theft" mode where they will remain silent and not report their presence except to the owner upon request.
As bike owner myself ive seen a bike being taken by a bike gang, and what i saw was that they used metal dimond blades which just took seconds, so mybe worth doing the same test with a more realistic blade like those used by the gangs, but still great video.
Fantastically helpful review. I have a combination of chains, disc locks and u-locks for my fazer1000. When out and about I use a U-lock as the mighty fazer has a U-lock holder built under the seat. I’ve actually wondered for a long time whether a U-lock was effective or not. This review certainly helps answer that.
Litelok X3 features an Abloy Sentry disc detainer lock, which requires a special tool with a specific picking tip in order to pick open the lock and a fairly experienced lock picker with fairly in-depth knowledge of the inner workings of the lock can pick it open. Hiplock D1000 features a slider lock, which only requires a thick strong paper clip and a bobby pin in order to pick open the lock and a novice lock picker with fairly basic knowledge of the inner workings of the lock can pick it open.
Great review 👍😎. Only been watching a short while, but just super informative and helpful. I happened across you single layer, lined Jean testing from back in March this year. WHOA!!! Excellent, so informative! Whoa, thank you. I’m in my late 60’s, and though I ride so much LESS than what I did in my 30’s, I didn’t realize how crappy my wrangler carpenter jeans were ~ are in a crash/accident/ get off on pavement. I always suspected leathers were the best, and I always wear a full face helmet, full leather gloves, trousers (jeans) and a full sleeved jacket with pads (& boots that cover my ankle bones😉), but somewhere I missed out on how poor jeans are. Thanks for the solid, well present talk. I best get looking for that Litelok X3 lock and a lined pair of jeans… 👍😎
Last night two T***s" tried to steel my GS. I had a Litelok on there and despite trying to diskcut it for ages they gave up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bloody amazing lock. They have knackered the first one (although they didn't get through it) and so I have just ordered the X3... Let's see them cut through that! 🤣 (In summary... expensive - but worth every penny)
Probably going to get one with some of the money im saving going back to bennet's since my last insurance company didn't care about my data tool tracker, locks or bike safe. Another class video bud!
This was my comment on a woodworking, but I think that owners of bikes can easily find similar places to mark things. - - - Thieves hate leaving traces, so any prevention should be around that topic ! For anyone that buys tools the 2 first things you need to buy is a good camera and second an engraver pen. When tools get used they tend to get scratches. These scratches can be seing as fingerprints so if you as a owner see there's a deep scratch then take photo. And as prevention take photos every 2 month so that each has an history of how it was used. The engraver pen(manual/electrical). Find places on your tools that you don't mind getting markings. Do some weird symbols or letters. The axel on the chuck, the trigger, where the batteries sits, the direction switch etc. If a tool is stolen then wait 1 month before revealing the markings. Just think about the panich when stolen AND sold tool can be traced back to you. The engraver pen(manual/electrical) can also be used with succes on the side of a rim(bicycle/car). Depending on your skills with a pen you can engrave this : Landcode(UK=+044) //Then Police(101) //casenumber. This will create a trace from you to thieves without revealing any kind of personal information.
Good video, 👍👍I believe there is a lock called the diamond, that is very robust. As far as, I recollect an attempt was made using a portable grinder,and 9 blades which didn't cut through the lock.
Thanks for covering more than just the solid U part. Nice to see the drilling and hammering tests unlike so many other reviewers.However it would be nice to see the angle grinder against the straight lock portion
@@bennettsbikesocial Thanks, great to know. The website doesn't even really cover the actual lock portion itself they only focus on shackle grinding so I'm trying to learn more about the whole unit. Appreciate your comment and info thx again.
I think you should always use a battery powered grinder, no thief is going to have a corded one to steal a bike. As a construction worker I can confirm that a corded grinder is MUCH BETTER than any battery powered grinder.
That looks like a great lock John, I’ve bought some liteloks so had all the emails about it. Luckily I live in a rural area with very little crime but when I’m away from home I do have locks for front and back so the bike can’t be easily wheeled away. Also use a chain or litelock where I can, or feel the need to lock it to something solid or a mates bike.
Great video, would be interested to see how well it withstands a diamond cutting disc in a grinder however as I believe that's what the more sophisticated thieves are using these days
I've started using the Dewalt Extreme as part of my testing pack - you'll see reference to it in the written security reviews. They can get through grinder-resistant locks without being destroyed, but there still a significant time disadvantage still, compared to normal locks. Also, on the majority of chains and anchors I've also tested, the diamond disc is slower than an abrasive cutting disc. All of which means that one tool won't fit all for thieves. Diamond discs aren't being seen in use much at all at the moment, though they don't offer an all-out advantage and their increased cut time for the majority of uses will likely mean they're not that favoured.
Great review. It would be great to see you test the OnGuard Brute as it is one the of the cheapest (~£30) locks with a thick diameter shackle (16.8mm) available in the UK
Commonsense goes a long way, in how you use your locks to make it as difficult as possible even with a tight budget. Placement & position is everything; where you are going to lock your bike, location. I have a 45yr old 3/4" Hardened Motorcycle Chain with D-Locks. I had 2 attempts in 30yrs, they look at it, then left, because it was to much of a hassle. My camera pick it up that's how I know.
I was thinking...these locks could be even thicker at the top where you attacked them lol, it won't create a fitting-problem while it would make an attack more problematic, so they would be forced to try to cut from the side BUT then they can't turn it so they have to cut twice... Great demo video!
Nice video. What about a higher-end diamond blade, would that make a difference in cutting the lock or would you still need more than 1 disc do you think?
2:50 When you’re wanting your full weight on something then your arms need to be straight. Otherwise you’re only putting as much weight as your triceps can withhold. Also you were standing way too close to the lock. You should be balanced so you can take your feet off the ground and pivet. Would be keen to see this bit done properly 3:38 exactly which drill bit was used here? Was it tungsten carbide-tipped drill or cobalt? 4:10 What blade did you use?
If you're worried about forgetting your lock and damaging your bike, just run a lanyard or ribbon from your lock to your handlebars. As soon as you go to start the bike you'll see the lanyard and remember what it's for.
This one good. The only thing I would dispute is a battery powered grinder needing multiple batteries. Just used my rigid with only a 4ah for over 5 minutes the other day.
worth pointing out that cutting the lock may take several disks but if your lock only goes around a wheel spoke, then just cut that spoke and the wheel will still be ridable for a getaway and a new wheel is pretty cheap from a breakers
I now got a Electric bike,Ive had for nearly three years,Got a normal D lock,I normally lock it up in town,Through the frame and through a solid post,Also CCTV Cams al over town as well,Less likely any one will use an angle grinder to steal it,My local town is well known for thieves who also steal bikes,Happen a lot,Also seen CCTV Footage of bike theft in King's Lynn Norfolk,Often happens when people leave their bike outside a shop for a few mins,Hoping it still be there,See some one with their face covered up,Grab the bike quickly and biking of,Rest of the time with my Electric bike normaly goes every where else where I also go
Check out the NEW security video, with all the latest locks tested here: ua-cam.com/video/JVqNCv_p7Ug/v-deo.htmlsi=dN7iHJtP6iDG2UcL
Hi I saw you trying to drill out the lock on the x3 was it damaged so the key could no longer access the lock? That is my only worry, however due to your video and my 125 being stolen with an angle grinder from my work just over a week ago (it was recovered luckily but in bad shape unfortunately) I have bought two litelock x3 to secure my kawasaki ninja 250 :)
It's amazing that its that two British companies are pushing the tech use in the portable lock market forwards whilst the likes of Kryptonite and Abus haven't done anything despite being huge with loads of resource available. Angle grinders are the biggest threat now so its great to see some decent protection against them starting to appear. Great video John
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
They have not bothered if they don't need to spend anything if anyone just buys their old stuff. This is great to see more inovation and not just a new lock using old outdated tech.
@@bennettsbikesocial How long will a diamond cutting wheel that won't wear down take to finish the lock?
@Michael Conlogue diamond wheels are not very good at all on metal strangely. I use them on tiles daily, but even cutting through a bit of aluminium will be far quicker with a metal cutting disc.
@@amococ2487 That is reassuring, thank you for the info.
Don't ya just love it when a product like this comes out to help honest paying riders!
Another kick in the Gonads to the 'Toerags'
Another brilliant video. No marketing fluff, just an objective test with results demonstrated. It's good to see manufacturers are slowly gaining ground against the angle grinders, I'll be getting one of these once I upgrade to a motorbike that's worth more than the lock 😂
Please do check out the latest video here: ua-cam.com/video/JVqNCv_p7Ug/v-deo.html
Good that you tested drilling it. Hardly any lock reviews do this yet it normally takes about 10 seconds to drill out a cylinder. Far quieter than grinding too. This looks like an excellent lock.
It is. I locked up my Tern Verge X11 (£2500). To go in waitrose. When I came out some toerag had been trying to grind it. I knocked him out with my ergon saddle.
Good for you John, you’re a very genuine and upfront biker bloke fighting all the BS and gits out there. 👍
Thanks so much! Cheers, John
Please note that the Litelok X3 is actually £249.99, not £279.99 as I said in the video. Cheers, John
the X3 does not exist on the european website?
It's pretty much hand-assembled, so they've delayed production slightly to keep up with the X1 apparently. It'll be on the site shortly. Cheers, John
Thanks for another fine torture test demo. The X3 is up for preorder in the US. ETA is expected in February of 23. Priced at $300.
@@bennettsbikesocial do you have any idea when they will be available? Bike recently got stolen and recovered and this looks like a must have to make sure it doesn't happen again. I'm planning on putting around the front tire of my 2020 Africa twin, I hope it fits!
Sorry to hear that! Preorders should be live shortly, then available around February I think.
Litelok should make a series of chains using the same material so you can use this lock to link the chain to a fixed immovable point so the bike can't be picked up. Since the weakest link is usually the chain, I think that would be a good business decision. Another product of similar inability to cut through.
I have an x3 and it's so short and narrow the only place I can use it wolthout a chain is through the spokes. doesn't fit around either wheel, or through either brake disk. bit disappointed the spokes are now the fairly easy to cut weak spot
@@mmm357m yes I've found the same, too much clutter around the disk to feed it through and not wide enough to get the rim and the tyre through. Trying to decide whether to return it or to strip the protective rubber and coat with bright tape.
@@Bunter1815 Just throwing this idea out there, haven’t thought it through enough to pick it apart. How about modifying it to fit through an area in the brake disc or hub by cutting through the straight part of one side of the U, then grind down the diameter thickness of each side of the cut enough so that each cut side can just fit through the hole in the hub or discs, and then meet in the middle, where accessibility of a tool is near impossible. The ground down diameter of the separated sides won’t be able to be exposed by sliding it through one way or the other, because the original thickness is too much to fit through and it’s snuggly butted up against each hole entrance. The tough part would be to get the tolerances just right so it can’t be wiggled to one side or the other to expose the ground down thinner diameter. I dunno in my head it works but would be very specific to your bike and would likely make it useless in other applications.
@@chuck1622 i just stripped the protective rubber and coated with blue insulation tape.
The chain links would need to be as thick as the lock shackle but not a bad idea.
In the world of UA-cam videos, you are the Litelok X3 John. Thank you yet again for an absolutely amazingly informative video. Keep up the great work.
Thanks so much! All the best, John
@@bennettsbikesocialso did it take less then 10 mins for x3
@@geegee8625 Did you watch the video?
@@bennettsbikesocial yes but in video you never gave the time
Great to see a British company producing such a top end security product. Well done #litelok
Thanks for the very thorough test, John. In fairness to LPL, he has often said that on-street thefts are generally brute-force attacks and very unlikely to involve anything but the most basic 'picking' tools and techniques.
He used to, but seems to have stopped now, sadly.
@@bennettsbikesocial I'd guess it got too repetitive, even for someone who has a few 'catchphrases'.
@@bennettsbikesocial LPL keeps saying it, but in different words: "it requires special tools and skills and is probably beyond a novice picker".
Additionally, thieves (assuming they're rational) are supposed to use the easiest way to steal, which was a grinder attack. If this lock is a game changer, a new method will prevail. It might be a lock picking or something else, like a garage door opener hacking. So it would be unwise to completely ignore the pick resistance of your locks.
@@dyurchyk Pick resistance isn't ignored - it's part of the certification for Sold Secure. We'll continue to keep trying to engage with LPL, but he seems pretty busy with his shop.
At the end of the day the only lock manipulation attacks (not full picking) I've heard of thieves actually using are things like comb picks, raking, bump keys and shimming of padlocks (along with snapping euro cylinders)
I have never heard of any common thief using skilled picking as an attack unless they are the super specialised type that tends to steal artwork or jewellery from vaults
Glad I saw this, I was just about to buy an X1! X3 is best bet. Crazy we have to spend so much on security out and about and at home for our bikes.
I’m originally from the Highlands and never locked our houses, left keys in unlocked cars out and about, to town, to the pub, never would get stolen. Moved to London, holy crapola, I had to get pannier bags to hold two chain and locks, two disc locks, had to get Datatag, Tracker just to get my insurance down which was 3 times more to what I paid up North lol. Crazy times we live in now!
Great vid, thanks for the reassurance now on the X3 👍👍🍻🍻🏴🇬🇧
I completely agree on the colouring of the locks. Black is easy to forget about. Countless times I tried to move my bike with a disk lock on that wasn't really brightly coloured, only being saved by having the engine being off. I even wrecked the disk on my current bike when I tried riding with it still attached. For a finish, I've gone with a very bright disk lock with an alarm from Oxford (as well as a big chain). Yes, that alarm is for me as much as deterring any thieves - 2 years and not even a hint of forgetting to take it off. So maybe bright coloured lock and a lock alarm?
Good call
know its an old comment but I put a elasticated bungee cable from my lock and loop it over the front brake lever to remind me its on. think we have all tried riding off with a disc lock on before :)
You work hard for this channel and get a lot of respect from the motorcycle community.
Off topic, as you have already covered, I look forward to seeing actual reviews of the 2023 Niken GT when it's released and any comparisons to the 2022 and before versions. I've enjoyed your plenty of Niken content over the years.
As for bike theft, there aren't many things that make my blood boil more, especially seeing thieves in action. It's great seeing them nabbed by the police, though.
Thanks for your hard work, it doesn't go unnoticed.
Thanks so much! All the best, John
nice to see companies doing R&D on this stuff to prevent theft. clearly in a lot of places, both US and UK, the government, cops, or even bystanders aren't doing anything, so having companies take the initiative to develop and offer solutions is a nice thing to see
Check out the latest video (pinned in the comments) and you'll see loads more too. Cheers, John
Great video not only for motorcyclists but also for bicycle owners, especially the more expensive ebikes or cargo bikes. Shame some more established companies have no such locks in their offer.
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
What is an expensive Bike to you? I am waiting for a 2k€ (conventional) bike and plan on splurging on the lock. I think even "cheap" bikes should be well secured.
@@Raz0rking One can buy a second hand bike or a new "supermarket quality" bike for a fraction of what you paid, closer to the value of the lock.
One determines oneself what is "expensive" and "cheap" in comparison to the item secured.
Don't try finding controversy where there isn't one!
@@ukrytykrytyk8477 I aint looking for controversy. Everyone should splurge on a good lock. Imagine you get a bike for 300€ and a lock for 20€ and you get it stolen. One is still out 300+€ because one did skimp on a good lock.
@@Raz0rking You're looking for controversy because you are assuming that the only options out there are cheap locks and the most expensive one, while in reality there are many choices.
Look at SoldSecure clasifications. One can get Gold rated lock for 30-50 euro/pound/dollar which would be adequate for many.
Great video & by far the most genuine, reliable & comprehensive security tests around.
Thanks very much!
In the case of this product, 4 discs (!) and time, time, time......that's the key, as you've pointed out so often. I really love your videos, John. Thanks, buddy!
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
As always, your reviews are first-rate, John. Massive thanks 👍👍
Thank you! Cheers, John
Amazing. That Barronium material is sensational, i'm buying the X3!
Tip I was given to not lose the angle grinder key : It's a good idea to cable-tie the angle grinder spindle key to it's plug to remind you to unplug it when you're swapping discs, so you don't accidentally start it and take your fingers off.
Good idea!
Well, it’s always handy anyway
Cordless
Best to tighten by hand, then you wont even need it
I keep the key tied to the grinder cable with plastic-coated wire.
Got an X1 Moto coming as it's the best I could afford, that will be the 8th security device I have on my motorbike. What sort of world are we living in where you need multiple security devices sad times. Thanks for your test though very reassuring and helpful
I believe my whole bike is worth less than either of the angle grinder resistant locks. And the result could be the thief cutting through the frame. :-/
Great to see and this is on a higher powered mains grinder. Really impressive work from Litelok
I commute into Manchester City centre daily and I currently have 3 of Oxford hd max disc locks, a crappy ‘alarm’ disc lock and a nice big chain and padlock (that being left in the parkin bay) I’ve tried to make my bike look a royal pain in the arse to pinch! If it’s 30 seconds per lock that’s 2 and half minutes the thieves will have to be going at my bike. I will be buying one of these litelocks!!!
You're doing everything right. There'll always be bikes to lock up near that have bugger-all security!
I have watched several videos testing bike locks. No one has actually done the tests under ALL of the following conditions. 1. Use portable grinder popular with thieves. 2. Include in the tests the time to change out blades and batteries on the portable grinders. In real life that time would add to cutting the locks. 3. Locking the bike locks in a more realistic scenario wrapping the rear wheel, frame and bike rack. 4. Additional second or third lock wrapping around front wheel, frame and bike rack. 5. Steps to take if you encounter thief while in progress.
Great stuff, I think the X3 is going on my shopping list. I’ve currently got one of the big liteloks which has been a bit disappointing in terms of not being nearly as practical as it looks like it might be. It’s big enough to be awkward to carry but not long enough to attach to a lot of things (bearing in mind that lampposts and railings are usually set back from the kerbside)
I agree - the Core Moto doesn't roll up tightly enough, which is why I still prefer a chain. Cheers, John
hiplok d1000 be better
@@Whatwhat1235 not for motorbikes
With thanks to your hard work testing these locks just done 100 mile trip and you have cost me £300 on the dx1000 thank you 😂 very robust heavy lock to add more pain unlocking even more locks on my bike 👍
Very interesting review, good point about brake disks being cut too. Also nice to see a fellow donor, congratulations on reaching 50
Thanks! I tried to do platelets, but my veins couldn't handle it. Gutted, as that'd be a fast-track to 100! Cheers, John
Thanks very much for such an informative and objective assessment. I’ve just ordered an X3. For anyone else who’s interested, it’s worth ordering today as the current pre-order run (which is discounted) expires at midnight.
Another brilliant video and great review John. I just love the content you put out.
Have a great weekend mate, Cheers, Michael.
Thanks very much! All the best, John
Great job ! if Bennetts gave a better renewal price I would still be there, either way thank you for your diligence.
Looks brilliant if expensive. I imagine people from various countries watch these videos despite the content being more UK specific. It's worth pointing out that in some countries e.g. Spain it isn't legal to lock your bike to street furniture, and unlike the UK, motorcycle parking areas do not have anchors for securing the bike. As such everyone just relies on disc locks. Thought it's worth saying so those on tour don't end up with a ticket for chaining their bikes up.
This was an excellent real-world test, and I'd be happy to use both litelocks. Thanks .
Another chance for some anger management therapy! I always find your testing vids extremely helpful for how thorough and informative they are. Absolutely brilliant, thank you. 👍
Cheers, John
This channel is our community gold mine
5 years in jail for stealing a bike would fix this issue much faster.
Another great and honest test thankyou for all the work you put into these videos to help the biking community all the best
Thanks for watching! Cheers, John
You need a electrical security option that turns the seat and grips into tasers with a loud alarm, flashing lights, and paging system.
Great review as always truly informative. Pleases keep your other hand well away from the grinder, they can slip.👍
Another great informative video , you gents are a true credit to the Motorcycle community, and not just in the UK. Godspeed
Thanks so much! All the best, John
Holy cow, just don't loose your key. 👍👍. Brilliant, as is the norm.
Thanks so much! Cheers, John
Why? Register the number - or just write it down - and Litelok can send you a replacement! Or if you're prone to losing one, then order an extra (or 2) when you get your lock so you don't have to go without.
Come on people!
Just seen this video as part of my research for a decent lock for my partner, her bike was stolen last summer despite being locked and chained in an area with other bikes present that weren't locked at all! The Lock in question was an Oxford Boss alarmed D shackle and Oxford 12mm chain (both quite old admittedly). Anyway, this is an excellent video, no shilling just an honest real world test. This lock has to be on the shortlist, thanks for your Efforts in producing this. Cheers.
Regarding the colour you could always use some bright yellow vehicle wrap for the time being until they introduce some brighter colours from factory, just an idea.
Sorry to hear that! Cheers, John
Excellent test and solid content as always ... thank you!! 🙂
Thanks for watching! Cheers, John
Congrats on 100K views on the Litelok locks! Good knowing more and more people learning about these locks.
Wished you showed the Litelok Core Plus Moto against the cable cutters and angle grinder as a worthy upgrade from the Litelok Gold more than just your review on the website.
My ebike got stolen on Monday while I nipped into the supermarket for no more than 5 minutes. Had it locked to a bike stand with a kryptonite evolution lock and it seems they got through it very quickly with an angle grinder and they were probably lying in wait. It sucks because I relied on the bike for work. I think this lock would be ideal for me and it is larger than my kryptonite so can lock it to more things and is far stronger.
Thanks for another quality piece of journalism.
Great to see quality products from a British company.
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
Also I wonder if we will ever see these kind of materials used in security chains, if that happens, it will make it a hell of a lot harder for thieves to steal our bikes!
it might not work because chains are thin enough to cut with hand tools but I wouldn't know for sure. it would be nice if it worked and they made them that way
@@dlmurray55 IT looks like it would certainly improve the chain at least.
@@artofthereal an improvement really wouldn't be an improvement if you can still cut through them with the same tool as you could before
@@dlmurray55 Go look up the litelok x3 and the angle grinder vids for it and the X1.
@@artofthereal my point is I can't see them making a chain as thick as a d lock , If you get too thin you will probably be able to cut through it with cutters. Now I could be wrong but I don't have a way to test it. But the thinner you go the less strength it'll have
I always appreciate you making these videos. Thanks so much!
Thank YOU for watching! Cheers, John
What about cutting the aluminum spoke instead the lock ? Even the frame if needed.... The Tree.... The road sign... Whatever is softer and easy to cut?
I have the same question, this lock doesn’t fit over my tire and costed $325. I put it through my disc brakes, however I’d imagine those are way softer than the lock itself…
Bike trac grab bag john as recommended its a good set up for me. Use an additional disc lock as well. The locks you show are a great addition in the armoury. Fabulous videos as always
Another great test - thank you! I'd be interested to see how these new lock types stand up to different disc types. I've seen one vid where a diamond disc seemed to make short work of the X1 after the normal discs were destroyed and they fell back to the last disc they had (which seemed the most effective tbh). I have to applaud the progress though and great to see this being taken seriously with some real innovation.
I'm picking one up from ToolStation today... because of prepping for the show though, I don't know how quickly I'll be able to run that test
@@bennettsbikesocial Nice one - thanks! If they are effective there, then that's my next lock.
@@bsidethecside2283 I can tell you that a diamond disc will get through it, but it's not quick, and you need a high-torque mains grinder to make any real progress. There'll always be something that can cut any product, but this is extremely resilient. Cheers, John
@@bennettsbikesocial okay, wasn't aware of that. All good info and a slow cut is an unsubtle and brazen attack. Probably on the edge of being realistic as you may well end up rinsing the battery before making the 2 cuts needed for a well positioned D lock . Thanks again!
@@bsidethecside2283 No worries! I need to rent a 54V top-end grinder and do some more bench-mark tests when I can, but thieves typically use grinders stolen from vans, so ones not in tip-top condition, and they rarely have their hands on the £400-£500 grinders. Mains grinders can be a lot more powerful, and faster than battery grinders, so it's important to understand that this kind of testing is purely for comparison. Real world attacks tend to take even longer!
They quoted you on the website and posted this video. Love it😂
In before a John gets inundated with a million comments bringing up Lockpicking Lawyer and how all locks are useless because every bike thief is obviously just as skilled at lockpicking as him, lol.
Just got the X3 because of this video hopefully with 4 locks on the bike it can stay safe
It's going to make it a hell of a lot less tempting to thieves than almost anything parked nearby. Nicely done!
Holly, crop I'm highly impressed. I've never seen a lock defeat an angle grinder. This could be a game changer
Check out the latest video about these locks: ua-cam.com/video/JVqNCv_p7Ug/v-deo.htmlsi=DEyuq-eN6zgpfrkL
Thank you for showing us how they hold up. I Have never used D Locks before but the way you used them on your wheel has opened my eyes, not only the fact that these Locks held up real nice. 10/10. PS I was unsubbed somehow so I resubbed :)
Impressive, no doubt about it.
If we worried about everything we'd never ride and that lock and a disc lock under a cover would be an excellent setup.
Really good work, thanks for sharing
Happy, safe travels 👍
Thanks very much. You too! Cheers, John
There will always be the 'yeah but' brigade but as you point out, in the real world... Appreciate the effort and information. I use an original Litelok with other locks when out, my logic being, the more on my bike the more chance of the scumbags passing me by. Cheers Brady
Exactly the right thing to do! Cheers, John
Fantastic lock! Great anti pick core too. Well worth the investment on top of insurance. We now have 3 great options on the market for anti angle grinder locks. I might get one as in upgrade to my Kryptonite forgettaboutit D lock. Most locks on the market are rated against Bolt cutters and not grinders so this is great to see. I wish you tested it against the twist attack though. Lesson is if you can lock this lock to your bike....then put it through the wheel not the spokes if it fits and anchor the lock down with a decent security chain.
It's nice to see them using Abloy lock mechanisms! They are seriously underrated outside Finland.
Lockpicking Lawyer himself uses Abloy, and this is even newer mechanism.
So picking won't be the weak point of this one.
Awesome video John, thanks for your research and sharing it! 👍👍
Thank YOU for watching! Cheers, John
It’s not a motorcycle, but I bought my first electric scooter about a year ago. I freakin loved that thing and from the first ride I knew I was going to always have one. I went to Home Depot and bought the biggest lock I could find and it cost me $60. The chain was huge too and I truly knew I had a solid security setup. 6 days after buying my scooter I rode it to Walmart. I chained it to the bike rack and walked inside. I was inside for under 10 minutes to buy 3 items. I know because I arrived at 10 minutes before closing and walked out just as they were locking the doors. I rounded the corner and it was gone. Chain, lock, scooter, all gone. In under 10 minutes. I was devastated. The security in the parking lot didn’t see anything and tried to avoid me when I went to talk to him. The doors were locked to the store and 5 or 6 employees had to try as hard as they could to pretend they didn’t see me banging on the door. So I called the police and waited for over 2 hours for an officer to show up. He treated me like I was the criminal.
My scooter goes into the store with me now wherever I go. If they don’t like it I don’t shop there. But the only real way you can leave your electric scooter behind anywhere and not worry about it at all is to put an Apple AirTag under the deck board. If it is ever stolen I can track the location of it right up to the front door of the house that it goes and knock on the door and I imagine they puked be so freaked out that they would give it back to me. Either that or the cops could come.
Air tags arent worth it because it will notify the thief they are being tracked immediately so they will look for the airtrag and toss it away
As @leeroykeankins7781 mentioned, Airtags can be useless for this task because of the anti-stalking "feature" they have. Tile trackers are much better in this respect because they have an "anti-theft" mode where they will remain silent and not report their presence except to the owner upon request.
Thank you so very much for making all these tests and films.
Cheers! John
Thanks for watching! Cheers, John
The note about not letting people give up of cycling due to theft is real. My wife was super scared to buy a bike because of it. I insisted so hard.
As bike owner myself ive seen a bike being taken by a bike gang, and what i saw was that they used metal dimond blades which just took seconds, so mybe worth doing the same test with a more realistic blade like those used by the gangs, but still great video.
Fantastically helpful review. I have a combination of chains, disc locks and u-locks for my fazer1000. When out and about I use a U-lock as the mighty fazer has a U-lock holder built under the seat. I’ve actually wondered for a long time whether a U-lock was effective or not. This review certainly helps answer that.
Thanks! Oh for the days of decent storage space under seats! Cheers, John
Litelok and Hiplok are the best on the market for now!!👍
Litelok X3 features an Abloy Sentry disc detainer lock, which requires a special tool with a specific picking tip in order to pick open the lock and a fairly experienced lock picker with fairly in-depth knowledge of the inner workings of the lock can pick it open. Hiplock D1000 features a slider lock, which only requires a thick strong paper clip and a bobby pin in order to pick open the lock and a novice lock picker with fairly basic knowledge of the inner workings of the lock can pick it open.
Great review 👍😎. Only been watching a short while, but just super informative and helpful. I happened across you single layer, lined Jean testing from back in March this year. WHOA!!! Excellent, so informative! Whoa, thank you. I’m in my late 60’s, and though I ride so much LESS than what I did in my 30’s, I didn’t realize how crappy my wrangler carpenter jeans were ~ are in a crash/accident/ get off on pavement. I always suspected leathers were the best, and I always wear a full face helmet, full leather gloves, trousers (jeans) and a full sleeved jacket with pads (& boots that cover my ankle bones😉), but somewhere I missed out on how poor jeans are. Thanks for the solid, well present talk. I best get looking for that Litelok X3 lock and a lined pair of jeans… 👍😎
Thanks very much! All the best, John
great stuff! my bike got stolen last month, then sawed through the bar it was chained to!
Sorry to hear that! It is important to find something as solid as possible, but anything is always better than nothing.
Last night two T***s" tried to steel my GS. I had a Litelok on there and despite trying to diskcut it for ages they gave up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bloody amazing lock. They have knackered the first one (although they didn't get through it) and so I have just ordered the X3... Let's see them cut through that! 🤣 (In summary... expensive - but worth every penny)
A other great review. What you do for us bikers is great keep it up ride safe be safe.
Look forward to the next one 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks so much! All the best, John
For 180squid I built a metal posted secure fence around my bike with anchor and chain.
Probably going to get one with some of the money im saving going back to bennet's since my last insurance company didn't care about my data tool tracker, locks or bike safe. Another class video bud!
Thanks so much! All the best, John
Update, used my money, you dont have it as an option and now paying more :(
This was my comment on a woodworking, but I think that owners of bikes can easily find similar places to mark things.
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Thieves hate leaving traces, so any prevention should be around that topic !
For anyone that buys tools the 2 first things you need to buy is a good camera and second an engraver pen.
When tools get used they tend to get scratches. These scratches can be seing as fingerprints so if you as a owner see there's a deep scratch then take photo. And as prevention take photos every 2 month so that each has an history of how it was used.
The engraver pen(manual/electrical).
Find places on your tools that you don't mind getting markings. Do some weird symbols or letters. The axel on the chuck, the trigger, where the batteries sits, the direction switch etc.
If a tool is stolen then wait 1 month before revealing the markings. Just think about the panich when stolen AND sold tool can be traced back to you.
The engraver pen(manual/electrical) can also be used with succes on the side of a rim(bicycle/car). Depending on your skills with a pen you can engrave this :
Landcode(UK=+044)
//Then Police(101)
//casenumber.
This will create a trace from you to thieves without revealing any kind of personal information.
Good video, 👍👍I believe there is a lock called the diamond, that is very robust. As far as, I recollect an attempt was made using a portable grinder,and 9 blades which didn't cut through the lock.
Thank you....Just placed my order for the X3. Look forward to trying it out against my HipLok D1000.
Greedy buggar
Wants to ride with the 2 best locks worldwide
@@geegee8625 ..the 'greedy bugger' also has two ebikes.....LOL
@@jjlad5037 miiiiii GOD why do you need 2 e bike's
@@geegee8625 .....Radwagon for cargo hauling. Specialized Turbo Vado 5.0 IGH for trails.
@@jjlad5037 damm the rich
Great video I'm crying 😢 watching you destroy that lock 🔐
Got to be done, or it's nothing more than fluff and b@ll@x! Cheers, John
Great vid ! Seems simple. Just fit two, or three Litelok X3 locks to your Ducati etc. Job done!
I'm just here (with my bottle of Aldi Magnum Premium) for John's heavy breathing! Cheers John 👍
Thanks for covering more than just the solid U part. Nice to see the drilling and hammering tests unlike so many other reviewers.However it would be nice to see the angle grinder against the straight lock portion
Sorry! I did do that, but the shackle remains the 'weakest' point. Cheers, John
@@bennettsbikesocial Thanks, great to know. The website doesn't even really cover the actual lock portion itself they only focus on shackle grinding so I'm trying to learn more about the whole unit. Appreciate your comment and info thx again.
Pic in the written review: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/security/motorcycle-chains-and-locks/litelok-x3-lock-review@@meyeame8956
I think you should always use a battery powered grinder, no thief is going to have a corded one to steal a bike. As a construction worker I can confirm that a corded grinder is MUCH BETTER than any battery powered grinder.
That looks like a great lock John, I’ve bought some liteloks so had all the emails about it. Luckily I live in a rural area with very little crime but when I’m away from home I do have locks for front and back so the bike can’t be easily wheeled away. Also use a chain or litelock where I can, or feel the need to lock it to something solid or a mates bike.
Great video, would be interested to see how well it withstands a diamond cutting disc in a grinder however as I believe that's what the more sophisticated thieves are using these days
I've started using the Dewalt Extreme as part of my testing pack - you'll see reference to it in the written security reviews. They can get through grinder-resistant locks without being destroyed, but there still a significant time disadvantage still, compared to normal locks.
Also, on the majority of chains and anchors I've also tested, the diamond disc is slower than an abrasive cutting disc. All of which means that one tool won't fit all for thieves. Diamond discs aren't being seen in use much at all at the moment, though they don't offer an all-out advantage and their increased cut time for the majority of uses will likely mean they're not that favoured.
Great review. It would be great to see you test the OnGuard Brute as it is one the of the cheapest (~£30) locks with a thick diameter shackle (16.8mm) available in the UK
I like my normal Litelok (red) for out and about. Might have a look at one of the X3s as looks easier to get into my tail pack. Thanks John.
Thanks for watching! Cheers, John
Commonsense goes a long way, in how you use your locks to make it as difficult as possible even with a tight budget. Placement & position is everything; where you are going to lock your bike, location. I have a 45yr old 3/4" Hardened Motorcycle Chain with D-Locks. I had 2 attempts in 30yrs, they look at it, then left, because it was to much of a hassle. My camera pick it up that's how I know.
I watch F9 for the jokes and your channel to learn something practical. Keep it up
Greetings from the US. Terrific lock with an even better review. Puts the "Fagetaboutit" to shame. Obviously, you get what you pay for.
I was thinking...these locks could be even thicker at the top where you attacked them lol, it won't create a fitting-problem while it would make an attack more problematic, so they would be forced to try to cut from the side BUT then they can't turn it so they have to cut twice... Great demo video!
Nice video. What about a higher-end diamond blade, would that make a difference in cutting the lock or would you still need more than 1 disc do you think?
No, just one disk, but I've gone into more depth here: ua-cam.com/video/JVqNCv_p7Ug/v-deo.html Cheers, John
2:50 When you’re wanting your full weight on something then your arms need to be straight. Otherwise you’re only putting as much weight as your triceps can withhold. Also you were standing way too close to the lock. You should be balanced so you can take your feet off the ground and pivet.
Would be keen to see this bit done properly
3:38 exactly which drill bit was used here? Was it tungsten carbide-tipped drill or cobalt?
4:10 What blade did you use?
If you're worried about forgetting your lock and damaging your bike, just run a lanyard or ribbon from your lock to your handlebars. As soon as you go to start the bike you'll see the lanyard and remember what it's for.
This one good. The only thing I would dispute is a battery powered grinder needing multiple batteries. Just used my rigid with only a 4ah for over 5 minutes the other day.
Have a check of the latest video, where I compare all the angle-grinder resistant locks in more detail. It's in the pinned comment. Cheers, John
These are so fucking solid! I'm buying them slowly because they're worth the price and they are asking for a pretty penny for them!
Check out the NEW security video, with all the latest locks tested here: ua-cam.com/video/JVqNCv_p7Ug/v-deo.htmlsi=dN7iHJtP6iDG2UcL
worth pointing out that cutting the lock may take several disks but if your lock only goes around a wheel spoke, then just cut that spoke and the wheel will still be ridable for a getaway and a new wheel is pretty cheap from a breakers
8:35 you missed to put a melody onto that beat!
I now got a Electric bike,Ive had for nearly three years,Got a normal D lock,I normally lock it up in town,Through the frame and through a solid post,Also CCTV Cams al over town as well,Less likely any one will use an angle grinder to steal it,My local town is well known for thieves who also steal bikes,Happen a lot,Also seen CCTV Footage of bike theft in King's Lynn Norfolk,Often happens when people leave their bike outside a shop for a few mins,Hoping it still be there,See some one with their face covered up,Grab the bike quickly and biking of,Rest of the time with my Electric bike normaly goes every where else where I also go
If you want to extend range to make it possible to lock bike with sth, you can buy two X3 or X1 and X3 instead of chain.
Thank you I bought one when I watched this video the lite lok. x1 for my e bike