i think the secret ending is the best ending. you ruin arisoka and become a legend without any of your friends dying for you. You still die but at least its on your own terms and you become a legend
"Hanako has forgotten you already" "You are nobody to the Arasakas" An interesting thing to say to the person who literally saved the whole company and saved all their lives...
@@timothy9205 it's weird that later Takemura says Hanako allowed V to enter the program (that normally costs a fortune to others). So either he lied before or after.
@@kerotomas1 Yeah, that was weird. Tbh the game is full of such little plot holes. The story overall was massively disappointing. I liked it well enough while playing, but the more I think about it, the worse it gets.
@@biozelink6086 It's weird that the side quests are pretty good and a lot of them quite unique but for me the main story is pretty much a mess basically after the Heist. Random things following eachother, i felt so disconnected, especially in the V/Johnny story where they are supposedly learning from eachother to be a better man using their experiences amd basically merging into one then comes the ending where you basically throw out everything you/them learned through the game doesn't matter what you choose. If you pick Panam you put your friends amd loved ones into danger just to save yourself, if you pick Johnny or the secret one then you pull a Silverhand 2.0 that will make no difference whatsoever in the long run, or you choose the Arasaka route - which if i think about it makes the most sense, you will keep everyone safe, it's the only way you can save yourself that is basically the core human attribute, but betrays basically the memory of Jackie (also you avoid the next Corp War)
Hanako calling V in the closing credits offering a job (with him having only 6 months to live) just shows how Arasaka sees the value in him. When Takamura says Hanako forgot V already, it's clearly a lie...and when he says she sent him, it's the actual truth. Arasaka wants V to become their property, and they sent Takamura to convince him to sign the deal. This might be a sad ending, but it's also the most interesting one for a sequel. Arasaka could bring V back to life to fight in the corpo war (maybe concealing some of his memories so he'd be more submissive). Then he could turn against Arasaka when he gets his memories back.
@@Ryz414 Probably Alt. Or (and this is just conjecture) the corrupted version of Alt's engram that became the version of Soulkiller in the Mikoshi resident.
@@danterik9781 It's a reference to a crazy guy on the streets in the game who claims that the Arasakas drank vampire space alien blood in order to live forever - calls them techno-necromancers from beyond the stars.
Yea it was way more bleak when I tested this ending out cause I had no idea Takemura could be saved. Never got the optional quest hint so thought he was gone for. Hellman was all I had and damn he made you feel like shit lol. But Hellman reacts differently when you talk trash about the Arasaka's than Takemura. But he acts like a cold doctor when he gives you the bad news Edit: Also would be weird if the results were different. Considering your main goal in this ending is to get help from Arasaka. Not much Goro can do in that area
@@benjaminlew1322 Problem to me is that I trust Takemura himself but it's also made abundantly clear he is a through-and-through Arasaka man, essentially more loyal than even a dog could be. If Hanako and/or Saburo lie to him, he will not question them. If they say they're doing everything they can for V but aren't actually doing so or don't really care (HEAVILY implied by Misty's Tarot reading of High Priestess and The Moon, suggesting deceit, manipulation, and surrendering your free will), Takemura won't question them. The Arasaka ending is just straight up bad, second only to the suicide ending.
It was Vik who told him about the construct while V was unconscious. This is also when Takemura learned it was Yorinobu who killed Saburo. It's easy to assume that the construct's identity was also floated to him at that time.
@@FireSignd Vik knows, who is the construct, he tells you when first time talking to you about biochip that it is Johnny Silverhand a big talk in his days.
Problem with Takemura is that he is blinded by his loyalty. After you save him and he gets back in good graces...he kind of forgets you. I wish there were a redemption/defection arc for him.
Exactly he even wishes he could leave it all behind envying the nomads. I thought that was a set up for his turn. That and all he wanted was just to get revenge. Hope that if they give alternate endings in dlcs this will be expanded upon because i hate the idea he commits seppuku in the better endings.
Ye weird. He knows Soburo Arasaka for 80+ years, and he know V for like a week. Really weird how could he forget. Lmao people did you play the actual game?
In other endings, you can find documents in Arasaka Tower. They confirm that "secure your soul" program is a lie, that Arasaka really just wants to enslave people to gain their knowledge and abilities, and they never intended to actually give people new bodies (that was just for Saburo).
I dont think they ever advertised the new bodies to the public, only the saving of an engram for your family/business, and sold it to the ultra rich and an elite, luxury item. if you visit the cemetery, there's a rich father/daughter that you can overhear talking, a daughter, visiting the mother's grave. she's tells her dad that another kid at school can go to arasaka, and can still talk to his mom there even though she's dead, and that same kid told her they could too if they just had more money. makes me wonder if the dad was rich enough to afford it, but chose not to for the reason you mentioned, or just couldn't afford it, and now has a daughter that'll grow up to resent him for not being rich enough because she doesn't understand money/life yet. either way, just absolutely crushing stuff.
@@ShepardCZ yup, so the secure your soul program is a sham and the devil ending is probably the worst case scenario due to this. even though it says no other copy will be made than the original, you're also signing away all your human rights and aren't considered a person. I assume arasaka's lawyers can make the arguement that any contract you signed as a person is void, since you now literally do not have any rights and are considered property. so, I have 0 doubts everything on the contract you sign is a farce, and Arasaka copies/imprisons/interrogates/studies/does anything they want with V's engram since they're able to capture it well before death. Unlike Jackie if Arasaka gets his body, who's mind transfer is corrupted but still half-alive. I imagine the market version, like the girl at the cemetery was talking about, is a bit like Jackie's, but much more comprehensive/convincing to whoever is left behind to speak to it.
@@TheJuggerClutch I think Jackie was not even half alive, Arasaka was just able to salvage some of his memory, considering he just repeats some of his phrases :-(
I believe Yorinobu was misunderstood the entire game. I think he already knew about Saburos plans to eventually transfer his consciousness to his body, which is why he betrayed him and as a last resort killed him at the hotel and then formed his own faction within Arasaka so things wouldn't spin out of control. There are a few hints to this: when your talking to Hanako she says that she still loved his brother but he didnt know his place, whereas she did. Saburos children were to be his vessel for immortality and I believe they both knew that, but that terrible fate befell Yorinobu presumably because Saburo would want to go on a male body. Hanako was loyal to Saburo until the end. Another hint was when you finally talk to Yorinobu himself, when he says "I tried everything", hinting that he knew that killing Saburo at the hotel was just a temporary measure, he knew that Saburo was still alive as an ingram somewhere and that the only way to escape his fate was to gather support in the board within Arasaka and wage war against Hanako and Saburos retainers. And another is when you spy on Hanako when she is talking on the phone with her brother, she says "I only agreed to this to honor the memory of our father" hinting that there was some sort of truce between the siblings to show the world everything was alright within Arasaka while their power struggle went on. Enter V: since Takemura was also loyal to Saburo, and wanted back into the Arasaka fold, he arranged a meeting with Hanako, and at that moment she realized that Vs help would have been just what she needed to tip the balance of that power struggle in her favor, defeat Yorinobu and restore power to Saburos faction, so she seized the opportunity. Yorinobu turned out to be the most misunderstood character in the game, Hanako turned out to be the real villan, and V was, as the tarot suggests "the fool".
Except Yorinobu was willing to spark off a new corpo war while doing so. Every other ending has background chatter reporting escalating tensions between Militech and Arasaka that will lead to an inevitable corpo war. Only in the Devil ending is the war averted, what with a resurrected Saburo cooling off the tensions that Yorinobu's coup caused. Also, the dude killed his father not according to some plan but simply because he lost control of his emotions. Only Saburo's carelessness allowed Yorinobu to lash out in violence. If he hadn't sent Takemura away for some privacy, then Yorinobu wouldn't have been able to choke him to death. This is why I do not agree that Yorinobu is merely misunderstood. I believe that the Cyberpunk 2077 version of Yorinobu is an impulsive, selfish, and incompetent goon with daddy issues. On an off-note, it is also why I find the Devil ending to be the only heroic ending. The game goes out of its way to point out how 'wrong' all your decisions are leading up to this point. It is, however, the only ending where your actions prevent another corpo war from decimating the world of Cyberpunk. Which is funny, because every other ending praises you for 'going out in a blaze of glory' or 'riding off into the sunset' while conveniently glossing over the fact that yet another corpo war is lurking round the corner--one that you could have prevented if you worked with instead of against Arasaka.
@@elbalerto I felt bad for Yorinobu at the end, and it seems the corpo wars are commonplace in this universe (there had been like 4 past wars if memory serves). As a player you only ever see Yorinobu talking to people 3 or 4 times, and you only ever talk to the guy one time. To me there is simply not enough evidence to support the claim that Yorinobu is inherently bad, whereas there is plenty of showing how much of a merciless megalomaniac Saburo is, even Hanako herself admits that. I think in the context of Yorinobu being a prisioner in his own family after trying to leave and go his own way, to become just a puppet to realize his fathers masterplan of endless ambition justifies him killing his own father even though he himself appears to be acting out of impulse, or simply seizing his opportunity to do so, if Saburo is usually kept in a safe location at all times, we simply do not know. And so, having a person to be a well stablished megalomaniac by all accounts and to have that person find the secret of immortality, even going as far as to sacrifice his own blood to achieve it really doesn't sit well with me.
@@DouglasZanini Saburo also wanted to execute Yorinobu after the latter's first rebellion but stayed his hand when Hanako plead clemency--at least according to Takemura. Also, the elite of the Cyberpunk already can already live forever with gene therapy. It's how an ancient fossil predating WW2 could live up to 2077. These two factors potentially negate the idea that Yorinubo was kept around solely as a spare body. And even if Saburo kept his son around as a spare body, I think that an even-tempered dictator that maintains the status quo sounds better than a hot-headed dictator who wages war against the world. You don't see much of what happens after Yorinobu takes over Arasaka in the other endings. You do, however, get clued in by hints of an upcoming corpo war--one that only gets averted in the Devil ending where Saburo revives. Yep, there have been 4 wars in the CP universe. But just because we had WW1 and WW2 in our timeline doesn't mean WW3 would be something to shrug off
I did the devil ending just to see what happened. It was soul crushing. V is just adrift not knowing who he really is. A sense of great loss he cannot pin down. The medical staff just treat him like a lab experiment, not a human being. And all of his friends don't have time for him. He is truly alone. Then he sees the real consequences of his actions on the news.
@@dirus3142 just for the chance to spend more time with the most loved friend of mine: Takemura is worth it to take this ending, if Takemura can be romanced, he will be my first and only option.
I went for the Devil ending for my Corpo roleplay and for Takemura. As much as I love Takemura and thought the interaction with him was beautiful, I regret everything else about this ending.
@@jesquesan Like I said. Like a dog. Are dogs able to move on and live in the wild? Some may be able to, most can't. I actually find it sad when you tell him to flee, and leave Arasaka. He simply says "You know I can't do that". To quote a very famous movie about a tyrannical system, he is "so hopelessly dependant on the system" that he will fight to protect it.
@@JavierGomezX He is indebted to his masters due to the code of Bushido. For Takemura, honor is more important than survival. Takemura can survive in the wilds, but only if Saburo tell him to.
@@ElBandito There is a line. Saburo crossed the line that would hold that honor. Takemura was loyal because Arasaka pulled him out of the gutter and gave him a place to belong. That is powerful. However Sakuro betrayed that when he planned to use his own children as vessels for his mind. I don't fallow Bushido, but i'm sure plenty of Samuri would have made a different choice than Takemura. Then commit suicide when the dust settled.
Actually when it rly hit me first that this was a bad ending, the moment Johny asked V if he remembers Dex’s quiet life or blaze of glory and then tella him its a shame he choose wrong, I was at that monent just feeling so emo cuz V tried to go for blaze of glory with the Arasakas but got nothing in return but to quietly die in 6 months as a noone or to surrender to Arasaka
@patrikdobradi509 The only reason I didn't feel the same is because from the very start, at the diner with Takemura, it was already hinted this is the most "logical" path and therefore not a "blaze of glory". Siding with corpos almost always puts a leash around your neck one way or the other, from what I've seen in this game.
"They are cutting some part of us out" "I feel...empty" Seriously, these two lines just gave me the creeps. It made you really feel like V's mind has been cut in half, like a part of him was just missing; I wish they had played at that a little more in this ending, instead of the two choices you got.
This ending was incredibly powerful, i feel it's amazing how they made you wish for the whole sequence afterward to stop, yet it felt never ending . It was cruel and dark, and that's wonderful. Never felt such powerful emotions with a videogame in an insanely long time.
That, and how V couldn't even solve the cube or even walk. They turned u into a potato. Very powerful stuff and very sad considering how things could have ended
@@alfonsoortega5408 I dunno, you seem to kind of recover. It didn't seem like a much different recovery process than from a massive head injury. Still, there are plenty of reports of people who are never the same as they were after a trauma like that...
@@normaaliihminen722 The thing is she even knows that thing you are mentioning. She knows she can't rely on the cards for everything, she is even skeptical about her own readings in some instances (you can go and get a reading from her during most parts of the game). For her, it's just a game that helps explore deeper parts of you. As a Christian, I do not believe in Tarot but I can appreciate someone who is in tune with her spiritual side. Also, the reason why I think this is the worst ending and Arasaka should burn to the ground. My only regret is that you can't save Goro from his leash.
@@kerotomas1 the VDB were the most annoying letdown. Only time I loaded an older save after the Sanctuary/Blackwall sequence not because of a bug, but just how fucking pissed I was in not siding with NetWatch and see the Edgelords burn in VR.
Fun fact: The name Yorinobu in Japanese means to reliably extend (get it, he's born to "extend" Saburo's life). This to me makes me think/believe that Yorinobu was born to be taken over by Saburo's engram, and he knew that and so he turned on Saburo. Also, the name Saburo means third born Son...which might make you think...was the Arasaka engram already used 3 times before and this is the tradition of the Arasakas.
Too easy to forget that the Arasaka clan are OLD. Saburu dies at 150. Hanako and Yorinobu are in their 80s, at least. Their birth likely preceded the development of even Soulkiller in 2013, much less the prototype biochip which allows an engram to take over a host. "Yorinobu" could also mean to "reliably extend" the Arasaka family dynasty. But at least that's more interesting than "Hanako": "flower girl", but also "splendor" or "ostentation".
They should have had an ending where you listen to Yoribobus side and then you realize this. I think If Johny found out he would be all for it teaming up with yorinobu.
“That is enough for me” This ending has such a different feel with Takemura alive. Without him it feels like you jump head first into a wolf pack with no help, no lead in, and no one you can truly trust because you know Hanako is just using you. However with Takemura, you feel a bit more at ease navigating the crazy environment of Arasaka. You know he’s honorable and trusts V enough to take him at his word. And plus you know Takemura wouldn’t abandon you or let anything happen to you once’s he’s given his word that you would live. I feel like if V chooses to go to Mikoshi, Takemura continues to pull some strings on the outside to get V a body as quickly as possible and keep him safe from outside sabotage.
That would be nice way to introduce a new dlc, starting a new game making a brand new character only to get killed somehow, and getting V engram in your head. And playing as V in new body in year 2080+ and meet all the other character and talk to them how you are still the old V.
@@daaouss Oof no thank you. If I went through all the trouble to get Johnny out of my head there is no way I would put someone else through that. Absolutely would encourage that new person to get rid of me and destroy me as fast as possible.
I think people will come around to understand how good it is in the end. I've seen this song and dance before, I even remember the backlash for Fallout: New Vegas. This game is too good for everyone to shit on forever.
@Alan Biju why is there always an edgelord like you in every reply chain shouting to let everyone know you think the game is dogshit. It's fucking wild how much people get off on just shitting on the game. Same shit happened with LOU2 months ago I guess lmao
And there is similar ambiguity to the endings. Suicide ending means more friends live. Uploading your soul with secure your soul with Takemura is probably the ending that likely results with V actually living long term. The Aldecaldos ending is very sad for everyone but V, half of the gang dies and it's basically up to you and Panam to find a way to cure V. Johnny endings let V go to cyberheaven while Johnny gets a new lease on life. The secret ending is arguably the "best" as it lets V live out his dream of being a Night City legend, he's rich as hell, with Rogue alive and no casualties to any pals. Mr. Blue Eyes appears to have an offer to save V in those endings as well. There's so much different with all the routes, if you want to say otherwise just because "V dies no matter what" you're ignoring literally everything about the contexts of those endings.
@Alan Biju @loserface both of you are partly right and partly wrong. The game is short and sometimes repetitive. It was indeed cut when it comes to quests. However the story is actually good, in fact best story I've ever played in a videogame, if you ignore the mechanical issues. there are many endings, majority of which leave a lot of possibilities for a continuation, the characters are well written and what happens to them has an emotional effect on us - the players. This game had a lot effort put into it and you can see that through a lot of little details throughout the map and the gameplay and yet it still came out completely unfinished, full of bugs and glitches. This shows how much of a commitment this game was, the fact that the massive amount of effort and time put into the game, did not even equal the performance and quality of the game. My theory to why that is the case is due to the unrealistic expectations from the fanbase and CDPR's desire to make the best game ever by far. The expectation forced CDPR to try to make the game better than any game or movie ever released, therefore they flew too high, got too close to the sun and burnt their wings. When they realized that this is the case, they did not have the time to fix and refine the game, so instead they NEEDED to cut it and focus on fixing the most important parts. This is why there are quests that seemed unfinished and game mechanics that were missing or disfunctional. This is a story of Icarus in the videogame production world. Now this is my theory and it seems like the most likely one to be true. I could be wrong though, like anyone else that's human
Alan is spot on. The game has TON of unrealised potential, sadly underutilised. The life paths/intros are pathetic and irrelevant, with streetkid being the obvious "canon" choice. The endings are for the most part identical, with no substancial differences between them, except a couple that stand out as clearly superior. In the inbetween, the plot that leads up to the endings is rushed and ridden with plot holes. It is evident they cut a lot of content and stiched things together. The city by itself (NPC's, quests, the world itself) are not nearly as deep as promised by CDPR marketing. In the end as much as I enjoyed the game, I am equally dissapointed. Not because of unrealistic expectations, but because of unmet promises the company itself made. For me the game is 6.5/10, taking story, game world and gameplay into account
The Arasaka endings are made to hit in the feels, to make you feel that everything you've done was for nothing, that it was a massive betrayal of everything and everyone you've done and known. And in this aspect, CDRP nailed it. It's one of the best ending because of the emotions it gives, I hated myself after I finished this ending, and when "Never Fade Away" dropped, man did I cried for the monstrosity of a choice I took. It's both my favorite and most hated ending of every video games I ever played...
I feel similarly. A year after finishing, it still sticks with me. The most memorable and unsettling ending to a video game I’ve ever played. Really fits the dystopian genre as well. Waiting on some updates before I play more and try the other endings, but will always remember / treat this as “my” ending since the initial choices I made led me here.
Yup, I was so fucking stoned when I got this ending, and realizing the power of how much I fucked up I had an ego death simultaneously. man, did I fuck up. I rethought my life after that
When I played my corpo V, I deliberately played confrontational towards JS and I didn't feel I betrayed anyone. Going full circle in being Arasaka's pawn to literal Arasaka's property was realy fitting story arc.
As a person that my first ending was thing, i knowed Cyberpunk genre for a while big fan of the TTRP i went as a Corpo. When i got this ending i will never forget it. 2 AM alone in my house while the cutscene of V saying goodbye getting out of the station while im filled with dread that... i choose wrong even knowing what the corporations were from before i felt that everything i did. Every choice was at the end useless and for nothing
@@secondaryfront literally how I played it, thinking that by doing what they said I could get a good ending where V gets his old life back and then to find out I get this. One of the best endings but “worse” ones compared to the others
People say how the moments like Johnny's last goodbye 'Never stop figthing', or V singing 'never fade away' while down on his way to slow death, or Judy crying on her bed after two suicides hit them hard, and absolutely rightly so. I personally loved the nomad ending the most. BUT. After this video, the most hitting lines for me are Takemura's last words. "Goodbye, V" and "Meet me in Kagawa - I will show you what is real food". There is some kind of grim soul-crushing realism in that the last person who genuinly cares about you on your doorstep to oblivion is an old and strangely honorable Corpo veteran. Having Hellmann leading you on your way to Mikoshi made that ending simply scary and hopeless, just pure black in the end of the tunnel. Having Takemura, though, hits really hard. It gives it that tiny sliver of hope that makes it all unbearable. Like, you desperately want him to be there for you in the end, to make things up so you survive and are reborn and you both meet, but at the same time you realize he's, too, not all powerful and not a hero; he's a disgrunted old soldier, a cog in a machine. Still he's the last hope and the last caring person you see in your life, and his genuine desire to help you makes it all the more hurting. Bye, old dog, you might be wrong, but I still liked you. May we meet again and you realize how wrong you were. Sayounara. hate longposts, hate em in youtube especially, but damn here we are. the storyline and music in this game hit really fucking hard.
@@Peachy_crow He is not your friend. He goes for V to get engram from Vs dead body(Dex thought he killed you). Same zombie engram as Jackie in other ending. There is no secure your soul as you learn in other endings. They just steal money and knowledge from rich people. Only good thing I can see here is that asshole Johnny is imprisoned engram again, and that hopefully they can destroy that bitch Alt.
And this ladies and gentlemen is how I can see a sequel working out. You customize a body, a new body. Old V has an engram made of himself/ herself, whether by the Arasaka team, or illegally by either the Afterlife club (Nix and Claire) or the Aldecaldos. And I honestly think it would be really cool of CDPR to give us a different beginning based on the saved data from the prior game. Basically to when each ending that you have unlocked, unlocks an alternate beginning for the second game.
I mean there other groups in universe who could help, with the Nomad ending you could go to Metacorp or the Technomancers for example, the former would probably have the funding for it, the latter might have the know how to help, and both groups are Nomad nations and even if they fight Nomads have been known to cooperate.
I keep wondering how long it will actually take them to find an appropriate body for V. I could see the DLC resulting in multiple outcomes for V. Like one ending resulting in Mikoshi being destroyed and V is just lost. Or findind out it actually took 200 years for Arasaka to get the right body because they had to use multiple cloning technologies and wait for medical advancements to take the next step(s). Or that she is freed from Arasaka, but can only exist as a hologram, like Sabura before he takes over Yurinobu.
This ending is just incredible. That moment of V tearing off the necklace. The realization of their complete and total moral downfall. The betrayal to everything he had been through and who he *was* Incredible and bitter ending. It was also my first ending and ho boy did I regret it in the best way. It hit deep.
It's only total moral downfall IF you weren't a corpo to start with. Tearing off the necklass could just as easily mean they are going to stop living like they died. That it is a new start for V.
@@squuid15 it is the most realistic ending. If your life depends on it, and you want to live, you ll seak help to the ones than can help you, not fucking bickers lmao
I got this ending first too and I just felt so bad when I realised all the things I did, it was for nothing and I either surrender myself to my enemies and then god knows what happens but they will most likely backstab me or I can go home and die alone in 6 months, though there is one scene worse than when he rips the necklace off, the convo with Johnny
Well with this ending Takemura does his best to make certain resources is put into developing a body for V he can use. Thus V will eventually be cured and free to live long as he like. In hellman's ending he basically just turn V into a test subject due to Hellman's nature to value science above others but with Takemura, he does value loyalty a lot and he is one who return loyalty with people he follows and his friends as well. Yes, Takemura is a Corpo but he is one with principles about loyalty to those he follows and to people he consider as friends.
Goro simply does not have the pull at the Corp to pull off what you’re saying. Takemura is like a work buddy. Cool to do a job but you can’t really count on him when shit hits the fan for you.
@@ForTheHadea No, V will be free once they manage to develop a working body for him. V's current body will die within 6 months no matter the outcome but with the advancement of technology to create a new body for those who had been turned into engrams, V will be free in the end and they will remove the need to steal other people's bodies since they can now create their own bodies. V will also meet Takemura after he gets his new body as well so Takemura can keep his promise to V about allowing him to eat real food. V only stays a prisoner of Mikoshi in Hellman's ending due to Hellman keeping V as a Test Subject for experiments on Soul-killer's effects. Stealing bodies will remain the main function of Soul-killer's Projects in this ending.
@@bronjesamuel1054 Not strictly true, he doesn't have de-facto power, BUT he's someone Saburo knows is 1000% loyal and trusts. He can't demand anything, but he's in one of the best positions to *request* it, and Saburo really has no reason to refuse.
You're not wrong. In other endings, you can find documents in Arasaka Tower. They confirm that "secure your soul" program is a lie, that Arasaka really just wants to enslave people to gain their knowledge and abilities, and they never intended to actually give people new bodies (that was just for Saburo).
He has strong sense of values and understanding of honor. We can see he symbolically represents Samurai code in the game. Never questions his masters. And we are the Ronin.
No, unless I'm mistaken. Ronin are Samurai who's master was killed. So Takemura is the actual embodiment of a Ronin. Silverhand actually refers to him as Ronin at one point. I don't know why you think V represents a Ronin by any definition of the word.
@@AleksandrStrizhevskiy Well, real-life ronin were mercenaries. Most of them even resorted to banditry, which is not too far from what V is. He never had a master to begin with though so there are no parallels to a ronin in V.
"She has forgotten you already..." A massive honking clue that Hanako doesn't give two shits about you, and will just let you drift in cyberspace until the end of time. Takemura really is a homie. Wish he would stop serving Arasaka. They threw him away without a moment of hesitation.
Messed up thing about this ending is finding out that Yorinobu was actually the best option for Arasaka if you are anti-corp. He is nowhere near the monster that his father is. Kind of feel sorry for him in this ending whereas in other endings he lives and Hanako dies and Goro commits seppuku which I am alright with as they just use V so screw her and Goro.
I have a weird feeling that V might be too "dangerous" to be given a new body. Think of all the inside knowledge he now has. There's no way securing his soul will end well in the long run.
I don't think so. They might have considered him dangerous if Johnny was still in him. I don't think he will ever be important enough to be given a new body. He signed away all his rights, and the law of the land says he's not a person. They could delete him the second he's in that machine and no one would ever look for him. I'm sure that's what they did.
@@dexteradams6515 More likley they would use V as an attack dog. Brake glass in case of emergency sort of thing. he is a hghly skilled problem solver. If they can copy his mind to a thumb drive, tey can edit that mind for loyalty, and patch any problems with mental health issues.
@@dirus3142 you are introducing plot holes. same reason they couldn't save him now, and they wanted to store him until technology would progress enough
He’d be the new smasher I feel. I’d rather see my v going with alt for one she’s a amazing Netrunner and second. Future is shit. World is shit. Machines are gonna run it so might as well
They wrote this ending perfectly. It accurately describes what Corporations are in the cyberpunk world, heck even in our present world. At first it makes you feel that it is the right choice since Hanako contacts you and invites to talk with you. It looks good from the outside. You feel like Hanako is "one of the good ones" but the more you play it the more you realize how shit the ending is, how Hanako is just another corporat using you for her advantage, how you are treated purely as an asset and that they only promise to treat you because of your use, and how unwelcome you are in the corpo environment. The time that you exit the AV coughing and barely standing, they just look at you and Hanako doesn't even ask you directly if you can keep your end of the deal is what makes you first realize. Then, the tests at the end with the nurse with her cold and indifferent attitude really puts the icing on the cake. Nobody cares about you. Lastly, choosing to "live" for arasake is the absolute worst decision you could ever make because it shows you didn't learn anything from the past 20 minutes.
Too right. The whole experience in physical therapy cell was so wrong. They really did a great job how to make you feel so insignificant, so lesser. And it’s like that in real life. It’s such an awful experience
@captainobvious8530 only through a lack of technology I mean, corporations do plenty of disgusting things. Shell covering up climate change findings in the 70s, sweatshops existing at all, Nestlé being involved in funding borderline death squads in the Amazon Hell even if some of that sounds conspiratorial, just go back 100 years or so. Corporate towns, murdering workers... when profit is the goal, powerful people will do plenty of things if they don't think they'll be scrutinised. If Relic type technologies were a thing and a corportation with governments in its pockets existed? Hell yeah they'd pull this shit
Going through Arasaka HQ alone really felt like V's "Blaze of Glory" moment, all alone now with no one to rely on, taking down hundreds of soldier and Adam all while being on the brink of death, shit felt beyond euphoric.
even if this was the "worst" ending on whatever scenario is given, takemura alive or not. i thought the whole concept behind this was interesting. also gives the message or questions the meaning of life.
I dont think this is the worst ending. I think suicide is the one, why? Because you accomplish nothing Sure you end your life with your own terms but again you do jack shit.
1:09:23 It was at this moment where V realized: He was right. Everything Johnny hated about Arasaka was true. V gets more and more angry, as V regrets the whole decision of trusting Hanako, until V pulls off the necklace. The bullet that killed V. The bullet that made V meet Johnny. The bullet that doomed V from the start.
Unpopular opinion, but this is my favorite ending. It’s so dark and soul crushing, but that’s what Night City is at it’s heart. It’s a place where dreams go to die. As much as I love writing off into the sunset with Panam, this feels more in tune with everything that precedes it.
We'll he grew up with arasaka, he was an orphan from a slum in Japan and got recruted by them (he was a kid). I don't want to know what they do with people to make them loyal. Maybe brainwashed with implants?
It honestly breaks my heart to see V standing there next to the engram table thing at 1:16:39 - He (or She) looks so tired, desperate, defeated even. It always hits hard for me. All that effort to save yourself, all the small victories and defeats you take along the way. Becoming an engram has to be the saddest ending because its V at their lowest. V going back to Earth, you can understand why they'd be angry - 6 months left to live and you spent a portion of it in that space station? All that trouble only to be left disappointed? Sent back to Earth without your shoes? You'd be pissed too. But you get to live those 6 months how you feel so it's not entirely bad. Aside from the Suicide Endings, the other Endings were at least much more hopeful, that V gets to either live a quiet life (with Aldecaldos) or blaze of glory (becoming head of Afterlife) or if you're more a fan of Johnny, let the rockerboy have a second lease in life.
I think one of the things is V realizes nothing the did mattered and all they were was a pawn for others in this ending. The Arasaka raid wasnt your plan, the chip getting removed didnt help, and all you did was cut off ties with the people that truly cared about V. Arasaka doesnt care, they dont even view you as a threat since they removed the chip and theres no chance of the technology getting in other peoples hands. They had gotten what they wanted from Johnny long ago so shredding the chip isnt any bad thing to them, and even then they likely still have another copy in mikoshi so johnny isnt even free. You're nothing more than a science experiment to them. Proof they can tear a person apart, rip parts of their soul and brain out, and weld them back together with cybernetics and science. The doctor said it best, not even the soul is safe from the edge of a blade anymore.
Do we really want to live in a world where the rich and powerful can become immortal? Where they can continue to take from the poor not only their livelihoods but even their bodies!?” That part really got me thinking about how the world is really starting to turn out right now
The overarching conflict within this universe is freedom vs duty. In a world, without limits, you can either slum it and be free only to die a "glorious" death, or play the "game" and acquire power, money, and potentially immortality at the cost of your individuality and ultimately shackled by duty/loyalty. The game isnt as black and white as it appears, and as seen in the anime people will do anything to climb the social ladder. A corpo climbing the ladder is no different than a street kid getting chromed out to gain clout, they both lose their humanity in the process. Sadly this is the direction were headed towards, but at least in the game you have the illusion of choice. I opted for this ending myself, JS and anarchism is not the solution -- true change comes in revolution, the people rising up. The way I see it, the higher you climb, the more power and influence you can acquire, wish there was an ending that eluded towards this, a sort of "working within the system to enact change." The whole world is fucked, arasaka aint any worse than the other gangs in NC -- its just more organized.
The fortress is unbreakable even from the inside. Just look at the mayor candidate (forgot his name). In the end he couldn't even believe if his life was real.
lol the world is no different than it ever was. In fact it's less like that now than before, not more like that. Cyberpunk got everything wrong as a genre.
"Feel that Goro? Night City just gave you another kick in the nuts. Running start this time." I think that has to be one of my favorite quotes of the game yet
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Takemura: "Hanako has forgotten you. The medical staff asked me to come down to speak with you." Also Takemura: "Hanako sent me here. She has already signed off on the personality transfer." Make up your mind dude...
@@kaymills696 He's most likely lying. Arasaka only cares about the biochip. Hanako wanted to remove her brother, takeover Arasaka, and probably restore her father to life afterwards. Goro is loyal to Saburo above all else, and Arasaka's research on the chip could bring him back from the dead. So Goro is saying anything that will keep V from leaving.
For all of u asking how to save Takemura in the quest when Arasaka attacks your and Takemuras hideout dont listen to Johnny. When u first enter the room with red lights turn left and crouch to get past a small opening. Then take the stairs and you will find takemura and the end of the hallway
This was the first ending I chose, but not because I trusted Arasaka. I kinda expected some sort of backstabbing or Hanako betraying you in some way (in the end, it turns out you're simply beyond saving). But I was also dissappointed that my corpo!V didn't really get to be... corpo during 99% of game. Earning one of the top seats at Arasaka (even for two minutes of dialogue) felt pretty good.
Yeah in the very beginning I was hoping to do more intelligence work and corporate intrigue and stuff, but your character is just designed to hate his job so that's not an option sadly
@@thewormemperor But as Vik said, it's not his fault, it's automatic, it's how the chip is programmed, although in some cases it sure may be an indication of Johny disliking something you do, CDPR loves these little details
57:18 scared the shit out of me when I first saw it. I’ve had nightmares just like that before! Where everything seems calm or routine and then suddenly, jumpscare.
The way the doctor doesn’t even seem human freaked me out so much, how she doesn’t show normal emotion or slight regard for V’s sanity. I’ve never felt legitimate fear of being alone and forgotten until I played this
@@adriankoch964 supposedly they're gonna try for a no mans sky, they intend to restore cut content, the game will be very different this time next year
@@TheItzal11 While less of a clusterfuck, NMS is still not what was promised just a month before launch. Still I hope for CDPRs sake that they can turn this around & make a buggy, rushed game with a good base eventually more into a masterpiece a la Blood&Wine.
Considering what Vic says, there is a good chance, that you didn't return. I wouldn't be suprsed, if Arasaka just spaced you like a loose end since you can't be controled.
@@Tabris94 Exactly. Arasaka endings are bullshit and the only people that benefit are Arasaka and Saburo himself. Even Takemura is not a good reason to select this ending
The Arasaka endings are generally considered "bad" and though what endings are bad or good is a matter of perspective... generally I agree here..., but if Takemura is there I think it greatly changes the slant of the ending. V had his shot at a full life essentially stolen from him. Johnny is entitled to his opinion, but from a certain point of view, V here is "fighting" to the bitter end to stay alive and defy his fate, even if it means doing something insane like backing up his personality and hoping for an Altered Carbon esque scenerio to happen in the future. You're still essentially signing away your existence and putting your trust in a Corp and luck, but the way I like to see it...if Takemura is there and you've helped him all along the way, you've made a possibly lifelong friend. Someone who might stick his neck out for your second chance, even if everyone else forgets and even if he himself remains in Saburo's service. His little quip about meeting you again to take you to eat some "real" food I think really hits hard, because rather than trusting your luck to the company in a way you're trusting your luck and your very existence to a friend. It's still a shot in the dark, he may not come through for you, but it's still a chance. It definitely makes the Arasaka ending a bit less depressing than just blindly trusting yourself to an faceless corporation.
talking about Altered Carbon, damn that show had true potential. Couldn't really get into the second season since we got the Quell is back from the dead storyline and wished we got more world building like the first season did.
Honestly the only endings for me that are "good" are suicide and siding with corp but returning to earth. They are the only endings that don't result in you becoming data. Alt straight tells you that if you become an engram and go back into your body that "Everything changes." You're no longer you. You're a copy just like Johnny. Johnny is a cool character but I would never let him take over even for a second. He is a parasite and the only version of you still being you is with him torn apart. A fitting end in my opinion.
All endings are ment to be subjective of what the player bealives is the best rout personally i dont bealive signing the deal is the equivalent of selling your sole to the devil yes you are arasakas property but i bealive that takemura is right that this is mkre of a reward then a punishment v is a nobody to the arasakas his theft of the relic actually cumilated into their smashing sucess so why would they punish him? Besides passage of time for a engram in mikoshi dosnt exist and V probably wont notice by the time he gets his bew body
Best character in the game. The writing around here and the voice actress actually makes her feel genuine. I really hope CDPR gives her character more screentime in future dlcs.
Its a crazy thought the decision you have to make, spend your last days with your friends and loved ones, say goodbye to the earth, and all your dreams just fade away. Or dont say goodbye to your friends and go to sleep all alone. No friends, no secure future, and breaking the hearts of those who loved you by jist dissapearing.😢 Both options are sad, I hate this game for not having a happy ending. I miss Jackie. Wish we never took that stupid job.😔
I kind of like that there isn't a "good" option, it makes you weigh your choices more and making these decisions makes the game, along with its story and characters, feel so realistic. Often times in life we try to choose the lesser of two evils and often cannot change our circumstances (ie. the death of certain characters or V's health)
Except you play all the endings and eventually pick the Panam one...which I chose first, then the reaper, then the arasaka all that is left is the rogue.
Most people I've talked to listened to Johnny panic and ran out of the building, not knowing you could save Goro. That being said, it has a relatively minor impact on the final quest sequence, and no impact on the potential outcomes. I consider it to be the same ending with some extra content personally, but if you feel it's different I would respect your opinion.
Hanako contacting V in the credits after refusing their offer proves they didn't forget about him. They didn't want him getting in the way, but had no qualms about using him for their own purposes.
Picked the Hanako's offer because don't like Johnny to be in the driver seat and also don't want to risk Panam's life. I thought I can use Hanako as pawn and destroy Arasaka, but the game seems to have only one direction if you pick Hanako's offer, really left a bitter taste in my mouth.
@@samuelbishop3316 Or you could just fuck it and do it all by yourself with “don’t fear the reaper” ending. You don’t have to romance anybody or do quest. You only need like wait a few minutes on the roof until Johnny say something.
SAME MY BROTHER i thought "oh she thinks i am going to do exactly what she wants? hahahaha yes i will but after i am healed, i will destroy her and arasaka" and then we literally cant destroy arasaka :(
Meredith Stout DLC idea: This character felt like she could of having a lot of potential and impact in the game, here are some of my ideas: She is Romancable (by both genders) She has side quests, which deal with Militech Gives you another possible ending, where you side with Militech and help them become more powerful because of the side quests that you completed for them as well as killing Yorinobu Arasaka as well as Hanako. Moreover, if you didn't save Takemura and didn't kill Oda then, you would have a potential of 3 Hard boss fights (which are Takemura, Oda (who becomes much stronger than your last fight) and of course Adam Smasher. The Ending entails to a potential future war between the two corporate companies which could then be seen in a later Expansion of the game. Moreover, the ending would lead to the Militech Scientists saying they can save you by finding a potentially suitable body for you provided you stay alive within the next 6 months.
To be honest the best scenario is letting johnny take the body. The body will live on for a very long time just with a engram of Johnny Silverhand inside of it. Its doing something good out there instead of expecting it to die in 8 months with pain and agony archiving a few things. Its even better if you choose don't fear the reaper ending since V goes out in style even if he/she dies before and after getting to Mikoshi.
@@lars1701again Yeah but you see V coughing blood while talking with panam in the ending. He or she is dying and the only way to save V is a new mind. The brain is damaged.
I went for the Devil ending for my Corpo roleplay and for Takemura. As much as I love Takemura and thought the interaction with him was beautiful, I regret everything else about this ending.
This ending pisses me off, Arasaka's best and brightest buy you no time? This ending should be the "save your body, sell your soul" ending, where continued treatments keep you alive, but you have to accept a position within Arasaka working for Takemura as deputy chief of security- for life - and go with him to Tokyo. Everyone you've met and care about hates you for being a sellout, and you have to leave them all behind with no notice, but you get Corpo V's original dream. You can say no, of course, but the Arasaka won't pay for the 6 million eddy/month experimental nano-treatment mcguffin, and we go back to V having 6 months and heading back to NC. The game also needed a HEAVILY built up but completely missing synthesis ending, where Alt merges you and Johnny into a single lifeform capable of living in V's body, and a Delemain ending where his greater understanding of the human element allows him to come up with a solution (maybe gives johnny the body and writes V into the biochip, so that V eventually takes the body back over - essentially giving JOHNNY the 6 months to live.
Especially like your second idea. Completed the Delemain quest with the option to merge the entities. At the point I was in Mikoshi talking with Johnny and Alt, needing to decide which one stays in the body my first thought also was "why not merge" and immediately reminded myself of Delemain. Was also disappointed it didn't show up there somehow to propose this alternative option.
It’s like V is holding on to the only thing that is apart of himself/herself. Very Bleak ending, you have hope of living but at what cost, will it even be you in the end
@@Joe21345 I think that would be more akin to a psycho ending and I do agree it should have been possible just to enhance the role-playing aspect of the game. But that would actually be an extremely sad ending, even worse than this one. An ending where V ends up as a blood-lusting cyberpsycho.
This is the only ending that slowly filled me with dread. It's like every moment was worse than the last one. I just felt like there was no hope. Masterfully crafted.
I'm going to be real here. The only reason why I haven't finished Cyberpunk2077 is that I'm waiting to see if we get a Goro Takemura type of DLC. For me... this is simple. Goro...REALLY doesn't have it coming. He's like the only 'good guy' we meet in that rotten-ass corporation, and I don't want to screw him over. Hanako is... well... she did a complete 180 from how she was in the paper game so the one we meet in the actual videogame is... well... I don't mind stabbing her in the back. But, my main man Goro... he doesn't have it coming.
Honestly the "Devil's Plan" doesn't sound that bad. Promises a sequel where we fight V if chosen this path. Cloning is a thing in this world and if Arasaka permits, rather, requires, then an "new" V isn't too far-fetched. The Arasakas just need more time to fully control V and when they do, they'll clone 'em and put the engram inside.
I feel like it would be real nice to have a DLC where arasaka V is given a new body, gets hired by arasaka again and transferred to japan. Then the bromance adventure with Takemura can continue where he finally shows you what good food is, while showing all the things he likes in Japan like some kid showing off his toys to his friend.
I hope to see if they go the route of a sequel for them to have this be the canon ending. Its not a great ending, but one with a lot of interesting implications and they can go for the Mass Effect route of having the choices you made in this game effect the V in the future one. Even straight up copying your V's appearance (as a clone now) to add that extra bit. Maybe don't make it glaringly obvious that V has started working for Arasaka and the players will inevitably trust this character that WAS their V only to have them be betrayed. Would add a nice sting and honestly make for some really interesting story to me. Then again players who didn't pick this ending would hate that probably.
This ending only really works as a "good" ending if Goro is still alive. Otherwise it's just prolonged suicide. Even getting stored in Mikoshi doesn't really help because you are instantly Arasaka property with no one you can trust to bail you out. Literally one button press away from getting wiped.
Man, even with Takemura, signing that contract has gotta be the worst possible ending. Think about it - V is someone who's already successfully raided Arasaka. They survived multiple fully armed death squads, defeated Oda and kidnapped Hanako, and (in the Devil ending) slaughtered Yorinobu's entire elite guard, as well as Adam Smasher. All with Johnny Silverhand living in their mind. To Arasaka, V is one of their biggest threats - someone capable of taking them on, and inspiring others to do the same. It's almost certain Arasaka will never give V a body. At best, they'll be stuck in a hard drive doing nothing for eternity. Even with Takemura alive, that probably won't change. He's just a tool to Arasaka, they won't care what he thinks. There's a reason that final prompt is "surrender to Arasaka" - that's what you're doing. You're not winning, and you're not surviving. You're surrendering. Because you failed. If you got this ending, well, Johnny put it best. "It's a shame you chose wrong. Damn shame."
That's very optimistic.. given what V can do, more likely they'll try to do what Johnny always feared, take away the part that makes you you. V would be the perfect corporate soldier, everything human stripped away. In many ways similar to Saburo, who, even when he was alive, was already pretty divorced from humanity
I know this is a year old comment but I personally think this is the best ending (or the suicide one since you kill more people that didnt have to be killed) But the surrender ending is the only one with a possibility to even live. All the others you die shortly, yea its on your terms but realistically. Who doesnt want to have immortality. I personally do think Arasaka will honor him with giving him a new body. might even be specially lab made in the future or maybe even like Smashers body. I also just really like Arasaka so I might be biased lol. Just think joining Arasaka might be your best bet at staying alive
late reply, but: you being arasaka property, if they ever do get around to getting you a body (doubtful, but hey) they can install you as another adam smasher at a different headquarter, or to replace adam himself in the NC hq if he died in the intervening time or you killed him yourself. having the guy who almost singlehandedly took back arasaka tower *for arasaka* on your security team would certainly help in dissuading folks from acting up, possibly including other companies--or they use you in the likely inevitable war, since you've more than proven your effectiveness. (not sucking up to arasaka to make them look better, just noting that while you're a threat, you're a rather useful one, so there's a potential out in that case)
@@leafgreenbeast you know the theory I have about finding a new body isnt that hard. Just donate your semn/egg with a host that is like paid by arasaka. Then when you have a kid just take his body. Its dark but hey thats cyberpunk
I played through the 3 main endings (Rogue, Arasaka and Nomad) and I like the nomad option the best. I did feel kinda bad after listening to the Takemura's message during the credits because he was actually really cool and chill during the story, I wish the nomad ending had a way to take him with you (just like Judy if you romanced her).
I can never and will never go through with this ending. Johny saved V's life at least twice, considered V his best friend, and will sacrifice himself so that V could live on even for just 6 more months. This ending is V spitting in Johny's face and stomping on everything Johny's ever said to him. Thank you though for going through this so that I could just watch it without having to do it myself.
Yeah thats why it upsets me that goro is livid with you in the endings where you stay true to your freedom and johnny. Goro had talked about leaving everything behind. Wished he just would in the other endings.
If you don't befriend Johnny and consistently push him away in fear of him manipulating you into giving up your body, then go for this ending AND end up imprisoned in Arasaka's cyberjail for eternity then you get an incredibly dark and depressing story. Like I did on my first playthrough. Damn this ending crushed me
Can't bring myself to do any of these endings. I got my canon with Panam and Judy with the Aldecaldos. On a sidenote,i didn't know you could save Goro but with the ending i chose i'm glad i didn't..wouldn't want him to insult me and kill himself.
I got that ending too, but I don't regret saving Goro. Everyone deserves a chance, right? We do, so why not Goro? He saved our life, now we save his. His fate is then his to decide.
@@JavierGomezX I wouldn't mind a self contained Goro-DLC, playing his side of the story, with one of the possible DLC endings meeting V again 30 years later in Japan.
Wish that idiot would listen to my advice and start a new life away from all that Arasaka stuff. Nah, he would stay loyal to the corp. Well, at least he had a chance to let go, begin again. He lost it. Sad, but that's what he chose.
I don't see another comment about it, but I think there's a hidden beauty by signing the contract when you see who's delivering you to the room. It's Hajime - a name that means beginning in Japanese. I know a lot of people hate the bitterness of this ending, but I feel like with Takemura's 'visit me' line and only asking Hajime's name in this path it hints that you aren't truly fading into the aether of Arasaka. It will be a new beginning. This is how you come back to world, either as the canonical ending for the sequel or as a soft 'guarantee' that you will come back. Maybe it's me coping, but I felt oddly at peace with this ending knowing Hajime's name.
Interesting thoughts, when I played this ending I felt really sad for a couple of days. But that little detail about hajime makes me feel a little better about it. It would make an interesting sequel if in the opening arasaka put your engram in a new body years later and use you as their primary Merc in night city.
I know. A lot of people hate this ending because they played Nomad or Street kid. They never really did Corpo and RP'd the way a coprorate type would. Play it right and all your allies and friends are alive and want to help you/ see you again. Take the deal and your a engram for a while new sequel cloaned body. Refuse and your an Arasaka made cyborg. IF you are Corpo V to start with ... this ending makes a lot of sense. Corpo V would want back in graces and to run with the top brass.
So the dialogue isn’t consistent with Goro where he says that Hanako forgot V at the 1:03:10 mark and he was called from the clinic. Then he says at the 1:04:48 mark that Hanako sent him there which doesn’t make sense. Those are two conflicting ideas.
@@kiara6237 That doesn’t make sense though because Goro says Hanako forgot him and then a minute and a half later said that he was sent by her. That’s a screw up in writing and someone should have picked up on that.
@@DanV900 It might be that Hanako had indeed forgotten about him until the moment the clinic called. Dr. Kusama: Hanako-Sama, the man you sent to me for surgery is acting up, demanding answers, what should I do? Hanako: Who? Dr. Kusama: The mercenary? One Vincent? Hanako: I have no idea who you are talking about. Dr. Kusama: The Biochip carrier Hanako: Ooooh, that guy, what's his face, what about him? Dr. Kusama: He is acting up. Hanako: Oh alright, I'll send someone over.
@@INFERNOdll Yes actually. Johnny is nothing more than a parasite. He as a person wasn't ever even a good guy. He would be fun to hang out with at a party, but it no way would letting him have a second chance actually be satisfying. Worse it's not even really him. It's just a construct. The real Johnny died long ago. He has no right to life anymore. Fuck him and let him be incinerated.
@@ilovemysherypie01 I'd be inclined to hate anything that invaded my body/mind and tried to take it over. Regardless of its intentions. The fact that the guy is a complete ass just makes it easier.
@@johnlarken4744 Did Johnny chose to invade V's head? Did he orchestrated taking over V's body? Or was he trying to help his own way? Can you hate somebody for trying to help you even if it's killing you incidentally? Or was Johnny shoved up your head because you took a bullet after YOU shoved Jackie's chip (or gun...) inside your own head?
I think having Goro in this ending kinda swaps things around a bit. Because he is like Panam and Rogue, a friend. Having him alive gives you a bigger excuse than just trusting Hanako in this ending.
I know people may see this as crazy, considering the corpo hate from both the game itself and the fans, but the Arasaka family handles you in very good faith. People seem to not realize that the corp not only pardons your transgression of stealing from them, but they actually honor their deal in treating you. Mind you this is the only ending which you are not soul killed (unless you agree to later). Which is ironic, seeing how the game tries to sell you the bs of selling out to the corp when you literally trade countless souls to alt (who I doubt is an ally to humanity in the long run), sacrifice allies, AND get soul killed for the same result as the Arasaka ending. The cherry on top is that the world is in way worse place for the common man considering Yorinobu is a corpo version of Johnny (maybe worse) as he is arguably worse than his father and has a corpo war on the horizon. I don't get how the writers (or fans) believe the others endings are even remotely better when looking at the big picture. People speak about how evil Arasaka is (and for good reason I know), but they are not antagonistic towards you at all. The crazy thing is how people complain about how you are treated on the station, which I find utterly laughable/insane. You are isolated. In the palm of the 'enemy'. In space. Do they lie to V? Do you wake up strapped to the soulkiller, with the Arasaka's taunting you before adding your useful soul to their collection? Do they do any inhumane and tortuous experimentation to a vulnerable V, keeping him/her in their clutch's to expand their scientific research for the relic? Is V wisked off to a terrible fate, never to be heard from again? No. They keep their word, subject you to harmless exercises by a cold and detached doctor (Really, are people crying about this? From Arasaka?) Then instead of just releasing you where you die later suddenly (how truly cold of a ending would that have been?) they inform you that the operation is a failure and give you a CHOICE. Enlist in the secure your soul for 'free' (c'mon, the Saka family obviously sees you as extremely valuable and want to retain you, but hey, in cyberpunk having value is not bad. Especially if the Saka corp is being this good faith about it) or you can live and die on your own terms. Again, I ask how is this OBJECTIVLY worse? Because some people with a hate boner for corpos (is understandable to a point) spill some bs morals lies about freedom and nihilism? In a game where you are a cog in a wheel who sells your services to do all sorts of things that are questionable? I also believe that Hanako will honor her deal and restore you because everything she has done for you is only positive. They have had numerous opportunities to soulkill, trick, or outright subdue/kill you. Why would they waste time why they could take you by force? Especially when you would be of no use to them initially (you would be a special engram that needs a special body) they have every power to treat you as an object and resource they could subjugate freely, yet choose to regard you as an ally and asset. Maybe there is some honor among them, in their own special way......
36:22 Best and most emotional thing is here that Johnny under some circumstances can say instead of Dexes words “Remember what Jackie said? Hold on to this chip for me”. And that was damn one of the saddest things in game
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Here's a playlist with all the different endings and epilogues: ua-cam.com/play/PLMpNwDjXWh0y2vWc0wTNuqBzt9caIskd3.html
Which is your favorite ending?
@@georgelogreco8810 possibly the suicide? It's quite powerful. Otherwise... the one with Panam
How do we get this ending?
@@JagAlskarSmorgasar ua-cam.com/video/U4lIVP636sw/v-deo.html
@@xLetalis thanks, this really helps
I’m usually a avid lover of bad endings but this game made me realize the importance of the good endings
I feel like simply liking the comment was not enough to show how much I agree and feel this comment, so here I am just going 'same'
The bad ending made me feel like I sold my soul literally I was honestly disgusted with the fate I chose for my v the first time.
i think the secret ending is the best ending. you ruin arisoka and become a legend without any of your friends dying for you. You still die but at least its on your own terms and you become a legend
the thing is there is no true good ending in this game
@@sloveniaking8220 I don't know, the ending where you're going off with Panamm where there is talk of getting help is at least a hopeful ending
"Hanako has forgotten you already"
"You are nobody to the Arasakas"
An interesting thing to say to the person who literally saved the whole company and saved all their lives...
They used him and discarded him. I looked thru their notes on the panam mission. They are not looking out for him at all
@@timothy9205 it's weird that later Takemura says Hanako allowed V to enter the program (that normally costs a fortune to others). So either he lied before or after.
@@kerotomas1 Yeah, that was weird. Tbh the game is full of such little plot holes. The story overall was massively disappointing.
I liked it well enough while playing, but the more I think about it, the worse it gets.
@@biozelink6086 It's weird that the side quests are pretty good and a lot of them quite unique but for me the main story is pretty much a mess basically after the Heist. Random things following eachother, i felt so disconnected, especially in the V/Johnny story where they are supposedly learning from eachother to be a better man using their experiences amd basically merging into one then comes the ending where you basically throw out everything you/them learned through the game doesn't matter what you choose.
If you pick Panam you put your friends amd loved ones into danger just to save yourself, if you pick Johnny or the secret one then you pull a Silverhand 2.0 that will make no difference whatsoever in the long run, or you choose the Arasaka route - which if i think about it makes the most sense, you will keep everyone safe, it's the only way you can save yourself that is basically the core human attribute, but betrays basically the memory of Jackie (also you avoid the next Corp War)
But then he says hanako sent him there to speak with V. I think taka was downplaying it.
Takemura is the best dressed character in the game.
facts
Always
word.
After default V from trailers
Who is the best undressed then??
Hanako calling V in the closing credits offering a job (with him having only 6 months to live) just shows how Arasaka sees the value in him. When Takamura says Hanako forgot V already, it's clearly a lie...and when he says she sent him, it's the actual truth. Arasaka wants V to become their property, and they sent Takamura to convince him to sign the deal. This might be a sad ending, but it's also the most interesting one for a sequel. Arasaka could bring V back to life to fight in the corpo war (maybe concealing some of his memories so he'd be more submissive). Then he could turn against Arasaka when he gets his memories back.
The perfect sequel
Her* v is female
I should have known this man...
@@askedtea9687 Debatable. There’s two choices after all.
That's Robocop plot (it's a cyberpunk themed movie after all). And i like it.
I mean, ironically enough, the Arasakas turned out to be techno-necromancers after all.
Gary was right,
So where is Queen Lilith?
@@Ryz414 Probably Alt. Or (and this is just conjecture) the corrupted version of Alt's engram that became the version of Soulkiller in the Mikoshi resident.
Theres a better term for that ''Technomancer*
@@danterik9781 It's a reference to a crazy guy on the streets in the game who claims that the Arasakas drank vampire space alien blood in order to live forever - calls them techno-necromancers from beyond the stars.
Even if the results are the same, having Goro there makes everything feel more reassuring, kinda changes the mood. Nice little touch.
The results aren't the same... you only unlock the trophy if goro is alive.
Honestly I feel like Takemura is the only reason that this ending feels okay... only person at Arasaka you can actually trust
Yea it was way more bleak when I tested this ending out cause I had no idea Takemura could be saved. Never got the optional quest hint so thought he was gone for.
Hellman was all I had and damn he made you feel like shit lol. But Hellman reacts differently when you talk trash about the Arasaka's than Takemura. But he acts like a cold doctor when he gives you the bad news
Edit: Also would be weird if the results were different. Considering your main goal in this ending is to get help from Arasaka. Not much Goro can do in that area
@@benjaminlew1322 Problem to me is that I trust Takemura himself but it's also made abundantly clear he is a through-and-through Arasaka man, essentially more loyal than even a dog could be. If Hanako and/or Saburo lie to him, he will not question them. If they say they're doing everything they can for V but aren't actually doing so or don't really care (HEAVILY implied by Misty's Tarot reading of High Priestess and The Moon, suggesting deceit, manipulation, and surrendering your free will), Takemura won't question them. The Arasaka ending is just straight up bad, second only to the suicide ending.
when he says to see him in Kagawa and we'll get real food someday
at least we were with a friend just before the end
Never actually came to me that Takemura doesn't know who is the construct till now
Right? I swear it comes up in conversation at one point but, thinking back it never did.
It was Vik who told him about the construct while V was unconscious. This is also when Takemura learned it was Yorinobu who killed Saburo. It's easy to assume that the construct's identity was also floated to him at that time.
@Aorus PC RiG Probably because Vik didn't know either
Yeah I was really surprised at the moment too.
@@FireSignd Vik knows, who is the construct, he tells you when first time talking to you about biochip that it is Johnny Silverhand a big talk in his days.
Problem with Takemura is that he is blinded by his loyalty. After you save him and he gets back in good graces...he kind of forgets you. I wish there were a redemption/defection arc for him.
Exactly he even wishes he could leave it all behind envying the nomads. I thought that was a set up for his turn. That and all he wanted was just to get revenge. Hope that if they give alternate endings in dlcs this will be expanded upon because i hate the idea he commits seppuku in the better endings.
@@AtlisDe I don't think he actually does it. He says he's not a real samurai and tells you to rot in hell. He's just being dramatic.
Ye weird. He knows Soburo Arasaka for 80+ years, and he know V for like a week. Really weird how could he forget. Lmao people did you play the actual game?
@@ericfrolov148 i bet most of them didn't. And we don't really know for how long does the timeline of the game last so don't spread false informations
@@justanoldsnufkin9747 Timeline of the game lasts 1-2 weeks at most. I mean since we got Johny in our head of course.
In other endings, you can find documents in Arasaka Tower. They confirm that "secure your soul" program is a lie, that Arasaka really just wants to enslave people to gain their knowledge and abilities, and they never intended to actually give people new bodies (that was just for Saburo).
I dont think they ever advertised the new bodies to the public, only the saving of an engram for your family/business, and sold it to the ultra rich and an elite, luxury item. if you visit the cemetery, there's a rich father/daughter that you can overhear talking, a daughter, visiting the mother's grave. she's tells her dad that another kid at school can go to arasaka, and can still talk to his mom there even though she's dead, and that same kid told her they could too if they just had more money. makes me wonder if the dad was rich enough to afford it, but chose not to for the reason you mentioned, or just couldn't afford it, and now has a daughter that'll grow up to resent him for not being rich enough because she doesn't understand money/life yet. either way, just absolutely crushing stuff.
@@TheJuggerClutch That is revealed to be just a slightly better chatbot.
Only 3 people had their conciousness fully replicated. Saburo, Johhny and V.
@@ShepardCZ yup, so the secure your soul program is a sham and the devil ending is probably the worst case scenario due to this. even though it says no other copy will be made than the original, you're also signing away all your human rights and aren't considered a person. I assume arasaka's lawyers can make the arguement that any contract you signed as a person is void, since you now literally do not have any rights and are considered property. so, I have 0 doubts everything on the contract you sign is a farce, and Arasaka copies/imprisons/interrogates/studies/does anything they want with V's engram since they're able to capture it well before death. Unlike Jackie if Arasaka gets his body, who's mind transfer is corrupted but still half-alive. I imagine the market version, like the girl at the cemetery was talking about, is a bit like Jackie's, but much more comprehensive/convincing to whoever is left behind to speak to it.
@@TheJuggerClutch I think Jackie was not even half alive, Arasaka was just able to salvage some of his memory, considering he just repeats some of his phrases :-(
Is this for real ?
Takemura: I'm flying to Japan
V: But why?
Takemura: *...food.*
Relatable...
V: ngl...i can't blame you after you puked when you ate a burger last time
japanese food is GOD TIER
YEAH GOD TIER THAT'S A REASON
I believe Yorinobu was misunderstood the entire game. I think he already knew about Saburos plans to eventually transfer his consciousness to his body, which is why he betrayed him and as a last resort killed him at the hotel and then formed his own faction within Arasaka so things wouldn't spin out of control.
There are a few hints to this: when your talking to Hanako she says that she still loved his brother but he didnt know his place, whereas she did. Saburos children were to be his vessel for immortality and I believe they both knew that, but that terrible fate befell Yorinobu presumably because Saburo would want to go on a male body. Hanako was loyal to Saburo until the end.
Another hint was when you finally talk to Yorinobu himself, when he says "I tried everything", hinting that he knew that killing Saburo at the hotel was just a temporary measure, he knew that Saburo was still alive as an ingram somewhere and that the only way to escape his fate was to gather support in the board within Arasaka and wage war against Hanako and Saburos retainers.
And another is when you spy on Hanako when she is talking on the phone with her brother, she says "I only agreed to this to honor the memory of our father" hinting that there was some sort of truce between the siblings to show the world everything was alright within Arasaka while their power struggle went on.
Enter V: since Takemura was also loyal to Saburo, and wanted back into the Arasaka fold, he arranged a meeting with Hanako, and at that moment she realized that Vs help would have been just what she needed to tip the balance of that power struggle in her favor, defeat Yorinobu and restore power to Saburos faction, so she seized the opportunity.
Yorinobu turned out to be the most misunderstood character in the game, Hanako turned out to be the real villan, and V was, as the tarot suggests "the fool".
Damn, would've been really cool to see an additional ending fleshed out with this
This is a horrifying ending, kinda feel sorry for Yorinobu knowing that he was to be trapped in his own body.
Except Yorinobu was willing to spark off a new corpo war while doing so. Every other ending has background chatter reporting escalating tensions between Militech and Arasaka that will lead to an inevitable corpo war. Only in the Devil ending is the war averted, what with a resurrected Saburo cooling off the tensions that Yorinobu's coup caused.
Also, the dude killed his father not according to some plan but simply because he lost control of his emotions. Only Saburo's carelessness allowed Yorinobu to lash out in violence. If he hadn't sent Takemura away for some privacy, then Yorinobu wouldn't have been able to choke him to death.
This is why I do not agree that Yorinobu is merely misunderstood. I believe that the Cyberpunk 2077 version of Yorinobu is an impulsive, selfish, and incompetent goon with daddy issues.
On an off-note, it is also why I find the Devil ending to be the only heroic ending. The game goes out of its way to point out how 'wrong' all your decisions are leading up to this point.
It is, however, the only ending where your actions prevent another corpo war from decimating the world of Cyberpunk.
Which is funny, because every other ending praises you for 'going out in a blaze of glory' or 'riding off into the sunset' while conveniently glossing over the fact that yet another corpo war is lurking round the corner--one that you could have prevented if you worked with instead of against Arasaka.
@@elbalerto I felt bad for Yorinobu at the end, and it seems the corpo wars are commonplace in this universe (there had been like 4 past wars if memory serves). As a player you only ever see Yorinobu talking to people 3 or 4 times, and you only ever talk to the guy one time. To me there is simply not enough evidence to support the claim that Yorinobu is inherently bad, whereas there is plenty of showing how much of a merciless megalomaniac Saburo is, even Hanako herself admits that.
I think in the context of Yorinobu being a prisioner in his own family after trying to leave and go his own way, to become just a puppet to realize his fathers masterplan of endless ambition justifies him killing his own father even though he himself appears to be acting out of impulse, or simply seizing his opportunity to do so, if Saburo is usually kept in a safe location at all times, we simply do not know.
And so, having a person to be a well stablished megalomaniac by all accounts and to have that person find the secret of immortality, even going as far as to sacrifice his own blood to achieve it really doesn't sit well with me.
@@DouglasZanini Saburo also wanted to execute Yorinobu after the latter's first rebellion but stayed his hand when Hanako plead clemency--at least according to Takemura.
Also, the elite of the Cyberpunk already can already live forever with gene therapy. It's how an ancient fossil predating WW2 could live up to 2077.
These two factors potentially negate the idea that Yorinubo was kept around solely as a spare body.
And even if Saburo kept his son around as a spare body, I think that an even-tempered dictator that maintains the status quo sounds better than a hot-headed dictator who wages war against the world.
You don't see much of what happens after Yorinobu takes over Arasaka in the other endings. You do, however, get clued in by hints of an upcoming corpo war--one that only gets averted in the Devil ending where Saburo revives.
Yep, there have been 4 wars in the CP universe. But just because we had WW1 and WW2 in our timeline doesn't mean WW3 would be something to shrug off
Takemura is pretty much the only reason/character who could make me consider going for the "Devil" ending.
I did the devil ending just to see what happened. It was soul crushing. V is just adrift not knowing who he really is. A sense of great loss he cannot pin down. The medical staff just treat him like a lab experiment, not a human being. And all of his friends don't have time for him. He is truly alone. Then he sees the real consequences of his actions on the news.
@@dirus3142 just for the chance to spend more time with the most loved friend of mine: Takemura is worth it to take this ending, if Takemura can be romanced, he will be my first and only option.
@@临高 Remeber that even as a romance partner, still Saburo would by his priority.
I went for the Devil ending for my Corpo roleplay and for Takemura. As much as I love Takemura and thought the interaction with him was beautiful, I regret everything else about this ending.
@@临高 That's how I saw it too, my friend.
Takemura is too innocent for his own good.
Innocent and loyal, like a good dog. Too bad his master was the worst.
@@jesquesan Like I said. Like a dog. Are dogs able to move on and live in the wild? Some may be able to, most can't. I actually find it sad when you tell him to flee, and leave Arasaka. He simply says "You know I can't do that". To quote a very famous movie about a tyrannical system, he is "so hopelessly dependant on the system" that he will fight to protect it.
@@JavierGomezX He is indebted to his masters due to the code of Bushido. For Takemura, honor is more important than survival. Takemura can survive in the wilds, but only if Saburo tell him to.
@@ElBandito There is a line. Saburo crossed the line that would hold that honor. Takemura was loyal because Arasaka pulled him out of the gutter and gave him a place to belong. That is powerful. However Sakuro betrayed that when he planned to use his own children as vessels for his mind. I don't fallow Bushido, but i'm sure plenty of Samuri would have made a different choice than Takemura. Then commit suicide when the dust settled.
@@jesquesan yeah, if he open his heart he can even works with V after V became a Legend.
12:43 was perfect.
"Fuck you. Silverhand sends his regards. (cool 6/7)"
*proceeds to make his cool 7/7*
got a good laugh out of this xD
Lmfao
same want talk about thatXD🤣🤣🤣
I like to think V quickly put on some sunglasses just to boost his cool that extra point really fast.
I find it funny how Soboru just goes “ha”
That Devil tarot card jump scare at 57:18 was beyond f'd up. That's when it truly hits you, plain as day, that you picked the wrong ending. 😟
Actually when it rly hit me first that this was a bad ending, the moment Johny asked V if he remembers Dex’s quiet life or blaze of glory and then tella him its a shame he choose wrong, I was at that monent just feeling so emo cuz V tried to go for blaze of glory with the Arasakas but got nothing in return but to quietly die in 6 months as a noone or to surrender to Arasaka
@@patrikdobradi509 The whole conversation with Johny hits like a train man, it's like a older brother who is not mad, but deeply disappointed at you
@@azkar65i mean johnny is a mass murdering terrorist who killed 20 000 people with a nuke. So dissapointing him is probably a good thing
@patrikdobradi509 The only reason I didn't feel the same is because from the very start, at the diner with Takemura, it was already hinted this is the most "logical" path and therefore not a "blaze of glory". Siding with corpos almost always puts a leash around your neck one way or the other, from what I've seen in this game.
I didn't even pay it any mind when playing, I was focused on giving the right answers in quick succession
Panam: “Hey V, I’m heading to town to get some supplies. Do you need anyt-“
V: “JOHNNY”
I also loved that he kept saying Johnny throughout the testing, it really made me think V truly was going insane xD
"They are cutting some part of us out"
"I feel...empty"
Seriously, these two lines just gave me the creeps. It made you really feel like V's mind has been cut in half, like a part of him was just missing; I wish they had played at that a little more in this ending, instead of the two choices you got.
yeah, it was good stuff
This ending was incredibly powerful, i feel it's amazing how they made you wish for the whole sequence afterward to stop, yet it felt never ending . It was cruel and dark, and that's wonderful. Never felt such powerful emotions with a videogame in an insanely long time.
That, and how V couldn't even solve the cube or even walk. They turned u into a potato. Very powerful stuff and very sad considering how things could have ended
@@alfonsoortega5408 I dunno, you seem to kind of recover. It didn't seem like a much different recovery process than from a massive head injury. Still, there are plenty of reports of people who are never the same as they were after a trauma like that...
Misty knows, Misty always knows
All due respect putting trust to simple tarot cards should be wake up call to you.
@@normaaliihminen722 The thing is she even knows that thing you are mentioning. She knows she can't rely on the cards for everything, she is even skeptical about her own readings in some instances (you can go and get a reading from her during most parts of the game). For her, it's just a game that helps explore deeper parts of you. As a Christian, I do not believe in Tarot but I can appreciate someone who is in tune with her spiritual side. Also, the reason why I think this is the worst ending and Arasaka should burn to the ground. My only regret is that you can't save Goro from his leash.
@@JavierGomezX Yeah but at this time in cyberpunk you either have corps or anarchy like Maelstrom or the Voodoo Boys. I would take corps for sure.
Because she put her faith in the heart of the cards
@@kerotomas1 the VDB were the most annoying letdown. Only time I loaded an older save after the Sanctuary/Blackwall sequence not because of a bug, but just how fucking pissed I was in not siding with NetWatch and see the Edgelords burn in VR.
He cared, he couldnt look you in the eyes when you called him out, his hands were tied, yet he still came
Good man.
Fun fact:
The name Yorinobu in Japanese means to reliably extend (get it, he's born to "extend" Saburo's life). This to me makes me think/believe that Yorinobu was born to be taken over by Saburo's engram, and he knew that and so he turned on Saburo.
Also, the name Saburo means third born Son...which might make you think...was the Arasaka engram already used 3 times before and this is the tradition of the Arasakas.
I do wonder if that’s why he killed his father, not for power but to stop his dad possessing his body and deleting his consciousness.
Too easy to forget that the Arasaka clan are OLD. Saburu dies at 150. Hanako and Yorinobu are in their 80s, at least. Their birth likely preceded the development of even Soulkiller in 2013, much less the prototype biochip which allows an engram to take over a host. "Yorinobu" could also mean to "reliably extend" the Arasaka family dynasty.
But at least that's more interesting than "Hanako": "flower girl", but also "splendor" or "ostentation".
They should have had an ending where you listen to Yoribobus side and then you realize this. I think If Johny found out he would be all for it teaming up with yorinobu.
Actually now that I think about it Johny wouldn't do shit for any Arasaka scum it's not natural for his character.
Daaaaaaaamnit! That'd be sick if that were the case, but I tend to believe it is and that's why Yorinobu tried to put an end to it all. Hmmm 🤔
“That is enough for me”
This ending has such a different feel with Takemura alive. Without him it feels like you jump head first into a wolf pack with no help, no lead in, and no one you can truly trust because you know Hanako is just using you. However with Takemura, you feel a bit more at ease navigating the crazy environment of Arasaka. You know he’s honorable and trusts V enough to take him at his word. And plus you know Takemura wouldn’t abandon you or let anything happen to you once’s he’s given his word that you would live. I feel like if V chooses to go to Mikoshi, Takemura continues to pull some strings on the outside to get V a body as quickly as possible and keep him safe from outside sabotage.
That would be nice way to introduce a new dlc, starting a new game making a brand new character only to get killed somehow, and getting V engram in your head. And playing as V in new body in year 2080+ and meet all the other character and talk to them how you are still the old V.
@@daaouss its too much like rdr2
@@daaouss that would be like making a copy of already released game. Sounds boring and without point. Better to leave this in our imaginations
@@hubert9841 how is that?
@@daaouss Oof no thank you. If I went through all the trouble to get Johnny out of my head there is no way I would put someone else through that. Absolutely would encourage that new person to get rid of me and destroy me as fast as possible.
I feel like the people wont ever truly know just how deep this game actually is
I think people will come around to understand how good it is in the end. I've seen this song and dance before, I even remember the backlash for Fallout: New Vegas. This game is too good for everyone to shit on forever.
@Alan Biju why is there always an edgelord like you in every reply chain shouting to let everyone know you think the game is dogshit. It's fucking wild how much people get off on just shitting on the game. Same shit happened with LOU2 months ago I guess lmao
And there is similar ambiguity to the endings. Suicide ending means more friends live. Uploading your soul with secure your soul with Takemura is probably the ending that likely results with V actually living long term. The Aldecaldos ending is very sad for everyone but V, half of the gang dies and it's basically up to you and Panam to find a way to cure V. Johnny endings let V go to cyberheaven while Johnny gets a new lease on life. The secret ending is arguably the "best" as it lets V live out his dream of being a Night City legend, he's rich as hell, with Rogue alive and no casualties to any pals. Mr. Blue Eyes appears to have an offer to save V in those endings as well. There's so much different with all the routes, if you want to say otherwise just because "V dies no matter what" you're ignoring literally everything about the contexts of those endings.
@Alan Biju @loserface both of you are partly right and partly wrong. The game is short and sometimes repetitive. It was indeed cut when it comes to quests. However the story is actually good, in fact best story I've ever played in a videogame, if you ignore the mechanical issues. there are many endings, majority of which leave a lot of possibilities for a continuation, the characters are well written and what happens to them has an emotional effect on us - the players. This game had a lot effort put into it and you can see that through a lot of little details throughout the map and the gameplay and yet it still came out completely unfinished, full of bugs and glitches. This shows how much of a commitment this game was, the fact that the massive amount of effort and time put into the game, did not even equal the performance and quality of the game. My theory to why that is the case is due to the unrealistic expectations from the fanbase and CDPR's desire to make the best game ever by far. The expectation forced CDPR to try to make the game better than any game or movie ever released, therefore they flew too high, got too close to the sun and burnt their wings. When they realized that this is the case, they did not have the time to fix and refine the game, so instead they NEEDED to cut it and focus on fixing the most important parts. This is why there are quests that seemed unfinished and game mechanics that were missing or disfunctional. This is a story of Icarus in the videogame production world.
Now this is my theory and it seems like the most likely one to be true.
I could be wrong though, like anyone else that's human
Alan is spot on. The game has TON of unrealised potential, sadly underutilised. The life paths/intros are pathetic and irrelevant, with streetkid being the obvious "canon" choice. The endings are for the most part identical, with no substancial differences between them, except a couple that stand out as clearly superior. In the inbetween, the plot that leads up to the endings is rushed and ridden with plot holes. It is evident they cut a lot of content and stiched things together. The city by itself (NPC's, quests, the world itself) are not nearly as deep as promised by CDPR marketing. In the end as much as I enjoyed the game, I am equally dissapointed. Not because of unrealistic expectations, but because of unmet promises the company itself made. For me the game is 6.5/10, taking story, game world and gameplay into account
The Arasaka endings are made to hit in the feels, to make you feel that everything you've done was for nothing, that it was a massive betrayal of everything and everyone you've done and known. And in this aspect, CDRP nailed it. It's one of the best ending because of the emotions it gives, I hated myself after I finished this ending, and when "Never Fade Away" dropped, man did I cried for the monstrosity of a choice I took.
It's both my favorite and most hated ending of every video games I ever played...
I feel similarly. A year after finishing, it still sticks with me. The most memorable and unsettling ending to a video game I’ve ever played. Really fits the dystopian genre as well. Waiting on some updates before I play more and try the other endings, but will always remember / treat this as “my” ending since the initial choices I made led me here.
Yup, I was so fucking stoned when I got this ending, and realizing the power of how much I fucked up I had an ego death simultaneously.
man, did I fuck up.
I rethought my life after that
When I played my corpo V, I deliberately played confrontational towards JS and I didn't feel I betrayed anyone. Going full circle in being Arasaka's pawn to literal Arasaka's property was realy fitting story arc.
As a person that my first ending was thing, i knowed Cyberpunk genre for a while big fan of the TTRP i went as a Corpo. When i got this ending i will never forget it. 2 AM alone in my house while the cutscene of V saying goodbye getting out of the station while im filled with dread that... i choose wrong even knowing what the corporations were from before i felt that everything i did. Every choice was at the end useless and for nothing
@@secondaryfront literally how I played it, thinking that by doing what they said I could get a good ending where V gets his old life back and then to find out I get this. One of the best endings but “worse” ones compared to the others
"I required no one's permission to be born, nor do I require it now to live once more"
Hard to argue with that one
People say how the moments like Johnny's last goodbye 'Never stop figthing', or V singing 'never fade away' while down on his way to slow death, or Judy crying on her bed after two suicides hit them hard, and absolutely rightly so. I personally loved the nomad ending the most. BUT. After this video, the most hitting lines for me are Takemura's last words. "Goodbye, V" and "Meet me in Kagawa - I will show you what is real food". There is some kind of grim soul-crushing realism in that the last person who genuinly cares about you on your doorstep to oblivion is an old and strangely honorable Corpo veteran.
Having Hellmann leading you on your way to Mikoshi made that ending simply scary and hopeless, just pure black in the end of the tunnel. Having Takemura, though, hits really hard. It gives it that tiny sliver of hope that makes it all unbearable. Like, you desperately want him to be there for you in the end, to make things up so you survive and are reborn and you both meet, but at the same time you realize he's, too, not all powerful and not a hero; he's a disgrunted old soldier, a cog in a machine. Still he's the last hope and the last caring person you see in your life, and his genuine desire to help you makes it all the more hurting. Bye, old dog, you might be wrong, but I still liked you. May we meet again and you realize how wrong you were. Sayounara.
hate longposts, hate em in youtube especially, but damn here we are. the storyline and music in this game hit really fucking hard.
31:24 you can actually notice Hanako Insert a chip into Yorinobu before the elevator door closes
And Hanako said Oyasuminasai (Goodnight in Japanese) to him.
When I heard you could save Goro I literally went back to a 5hrs old save so I could fix my terrible mistake. No regrets.
Worthy
Really ? Goro kills V here. There is no new body. It is a scam. I actually had to reload so Goro would stay dead. Funny.
Yeah, I saved him. But then I went on to have the secret ending causing him to despise me before committing seppuku. oops.
@@Peachy_crow He is not your friend. He goes for V to get engram from Vs dead body(Dex thought he killed you). Same zombie engram as Jackie in other ending. There is no secure your soul as you learn in other endings. They just steal money and knowledge from rich people. Only good thing I can see here is that asshole Johnny is imprisoned engram again, and that hopefully they can destroy that bitch Alt.
Yeah!???!! My husb was like: will you return 8 hours only to save Takemura? My answer: hmmm... yes?
44:30
Prof- "What are your thoughts on th-"
V- "JOHNNY"
6:27 nobody told her to calm her t's
The look she gives at 44:55
And this ladies and gentlemen is how I can see a sequel working out. You customize a body, a new body. Old V has an engram made of himself/ herself, whether by the Arasaka team, or illegally by either the Afterlife club (Nix and Claire) or the Aldecaldos. And I honestly think it would be really cool of CDPR to give us a different beginning based on the saved data from the prior game. Basically to when each ending that you have unlocked, unlocks an alternate beginning for the second game.
It also opens an ending for each life path
Corpo for this ending
Nomad for the nomad ending
True ending don’t fear the reaper for street kid
@@notme3603 Over a year late telling me stuff bud. I don’t play cyberpunk anymore.
I mean there other groups in universe who could help, with the Nomad ending you could go to Metacorp or the Technomancers for example, the former would probably have the funding for it, the latter might have the know how to help, and both groups are Nomad nations and even if they fight Nomads have been known to cooperate.
I keep wondering how long it will actually take them to find an appropriate body for V. I could see the DLC resulting in multiple outcomes for V. Like one ending resulting in Mikoshi being destroyed and V is just lost. Or findind out it actually took 200 years for Arasaka to get the right body because they had to use multiple cloning technologies and wait for medical advancements to take the next step(s). Or that she is freed from Arasaka, but can only exist as a hologram, like Sabura before he takes over Yurinobu.
@@MetallicaKing48 You'll be back for Phantom Liberty
This ending is just incredible.
That moment of V tearing off the necklace.
The realization of their complete and total moral downfall. The betrayal to everything he had been through and who he *was*
Incredible and bitter ending.
It was also my first ending and ho boy did I regret it in the best way. It hit deep.
It's only total moral downfall IF you weren't a corpo to start with. Tearing off the necklass could just as easily mean they are going to stop living like they died. That it is a new start for V.
@@HontasFarmer80no... It's just a moral downfall. Unless you see yourself as a tool of the corpos, this ending has no good aspects
@@squuid15 it is the most realistic ending. If your life depends on it, and you want to live, you ll seak help to the ones than can help you, not fucking bickers lmao
"yeah, the homeless people that live in the middle of the sand can totally find a cure for me."@@ybench5871
I got this ending first too and I just felt so bad when I realised all the things I did, it was for nothing and I either surrender myself to my enemies and then god knows what happens but they will most likely backstab me or I can go home and die alone in 6 months, though there is one scene worse than when he rips the necklace off, the convo with Johnny
Well with this ending Takemura does his best to make certain resources is put into developing a body for V he can use. Thus V will eventually be cured and free to live long as he like. In hellman's ending he basically just turn V into a test subject due to Hellman's nature to value science above others but with Takemura, he does value loyalty a lot and he is one who return loyalty with people he follows and his friends as well. Yes, Takemura is a Corpo but he is one with principles about loyalty to those he follows and to people he consider as friends.
Goro simply does not have the pull at the Corp to pull off what you’re saying. Takemura is like a work buddy. Cool to do a job but you can’t really count on him when shit hits the fan for you.
But in reality all you are is another prisoner in mikoshi or do I get that wrong
@@ForTheHadea No, V will be free once they manage to develop a working body for him. V's current body will die within 6 months no matter the outcome but with the advancement of technology to create a new body for those who had been turned into engrams, V will be free in the end and they will remove the need to steal other people's bodies since they can now create their own bodies. V will also meet Takemura after he gets his new body as well so Takemura can keep his promise to V about allowing him to eat real food.
V only stays a prisoner of Mikoshi in Hellman's ending due to Hellman keeping V as a Test Subject for experiments on Soul-killer's effects. Stealing bodies will remain the main function of Soul-killer's Projects in this ending.
@@bronjesamuel1054 Not strictly true, he doesn't have de-facto power, BUT he's someone Saburo knows is 1000% loyal and trusts. He can't demand anything, but he's in one of the best positions to *request* it, and Saburo really has no reason to refuse.
@@ForTheHadea Yes. You learn that in other endings. They just steal money and knowledge. There is no ressurection.
The way they portrayed V going into the Secure Your Soul program.......looked like a prisoner on death row going into his execution
indeed :(
Which is pretty much exactly how it is. You'll be killed and stored in a soul prison for eternity.
For real. I was going for a full Corpo play though and when V stopped and looked at the chair..
Man this ending made me feel like shit for a good bit
@@Simple_Cory Same I wasn't being a full corpo it was more like my V was desperate and went to that last thing she needed.
You're not wrong. In other endings, you can find documents in Arasaka Tower. They confirm that "secure your soul" program is a lie, that Arasaka really just wants to enslave people to gain their knowledge and abilities, and they never intended to actually give people new bodies (that was just for Saburo).
He has strong sense of values and understanding of honor. We can see he symbolically represents Samurai code in the game. Never questions his masters.
And we are the Ronin.
Even more true when you consider must ronin were actually little more than bandits and thieves. Sound familiar?
No, unless I'm mistaken. Ronin are Samurai who's master was killed. So Takemura is the actual embodiment of a Ronin. Silverhand actually refers to him as Ronin at one point. I don't know why you think V represents a Ronin by any definition of the word.
@@AleksandrStrizhevskiy Well, real-life ronin were mercenaries. Most of them even resorted to banditry, which is not too far from what V is. He never had a master to begin with though so there are no parallels to a ronin in V.
@@AleksandrStrizhevskiy our boi Jenkins got killed and we got thrown out
@@soma6974 Meh, Jenkins seemed slimy and sloppy. Like he was setting you up. And it's not like you are on a quest for vengeance.
When takemura said ''i will show you what is real food.'' i have tear in my eyes.
even this game was like a tragedy the storyline was not that bad
"She has forgotten you already..."
A massive honking clue that Hanako doesn't give two shits about you, and will just let you drift in cyberspace until the end of time. Takemura really is a homie. Wish he would stop serving Arasaka. They threw him away without a moment of hesitation.
And then, she appears in the credits if you choose to return to earth
I miss Jackie, wish we never took that stupid job.😪😔😥 Becoming a legend isnt worth saying goodbye to everyone you love.
think about it, if Jackie hadn't passed the relic to you, he would have been the one who woke up wherever you sent him and you'd be the one dead.
That's the price of becoming a Legend of NC. All NC Legends died before their time.
@@TheItzal11 damn. I legit NEVER thought about that
Well said
@@TheItzal11 OH SHIT JACKIE KEEPS THE RELIC DLC
Messed up thing about this ending is finding out that Yorinobu was actually the best option for Arasaka if you are anti-corp. He is nowhere near the monster that his father is. Kind of feel sorry for him in this ending whereas in other endings he lives and Hanako dies and Goro commits seppuku which I am alright with as they just use V so screw her and Goro.
Yea. Wish I could have sided with Yorinobu. Only good DLC I can imagine is defending against rogue AI where you get to destroy Alt and Johnny.
How do you know what happens to Goro and Hanako in the other endings ?
@@atlas_6655 Hanako's death is on the news and Goro sends a message in the end credits.
@@atlas_6655 It is on news.
@@noobFPV If Mike Pondsmith has anything to do with it.. I would severely doubt any such DLC would be made.
I have a weird feeling that V might be too "dangerous" to be given a new body. Think of all the inside knowledge he now has. There's no way securing his soul will end well in the long run.
I don't think so. They might have considered him dangerous if Johnny was still in him.
I don't think he will ever be important enough to be given a new body.
He signed away all his rights, and the law of the land says he's not a person. They could delete him the second he's in that machine and no one would ever look for him. I'm sure that's what they did.
@@dexteradams6515 More likley they would use V as an attack dog. Brake glass in case of emergency sort of thing. he is a hghly skilled problem solver. If they can copy his mind to a thumb drive, tey can edit that mind for loyalty, and patch any problems with mental health issues.
@@dirus3142 you are introducing plot holes. same reason they couldn't save him now, and they wanted to store him until technology would progress enough
@Potato King Good point.
He’d be the new smasher I feel. I’d rather see my v going with alt for one she’s a amazing Netrunner and second. Future is shit. World is shit. Machines are gonna run it so might as well
They wrote this ending perfectly. It accurately describes what Corporations are in the cyberpunk world, heck even in our present world. At first it makes you feel that it is the right choice since Hanako contacts you and invites to talk with you. It looks good from the outside. You feel like Hanako is "one of the good ones" but the more you play it the more you realize how shit the ending is, how Hanako is just another corporat using you for her advantage, how you are treated purely as an asset and that they only promise to treat you because of your use, and how unwelcome you are in the corpo environment. The time that you exit the AV coughing and barely standing, they just look at you and Hanako doesn't even ask you directly if you can keep your end of the deal is what makes you first realize. Then, the tests at the end with the nurse with her cold and indifferent attitude really puts the icing on the cake. Nobody cares about you. Lastly, choosing to "live" for arasake is the absolute worst decision you could ever make because it shows you didn't learn anything from the past 20 minutes.
Too right. The whole experience in physical therapy cell was so wrong. They really did a great job how to make you feel so insignificant, so lesser.
And it’s like that in real life. It’s such an awful experience
Let's not be ridiculous, irl corporations are not as twisted as arasaka by any mean
@@captainobvious8530 found the corpo
@@captainobvious8530You should look up what the Corp. Nestle there alot to learn about the shit they do when it comes to taking water.
@captainobvious8530 only through a lack of technology
I mean, corporations do plenty of disgusting things. Shell covering up climate change findings in the 70s, sweatshops existing at all, Nestlé being involved in funding borderline death squads in the Amazon
Hell even if some of that sounds conspiratorial, just go back 100 years or so. Corporate towns, murdering workers... when profit is the goal, powerful people will do plenty of things if they don't think they'll be scrutinised. If Relic type technologies were a thing and a corportation with governments in its pockets existed? Hell yeah they'd pull this shit
Going through Arasaka HQ alone really felt like V's "Blaze of Glory" moment, all alone now with no one to rely on, taking down hundreds of soldier and Adam all while being on the brink of death, shit felt beyond euphoric.
even if this was the "worst" ending on whatever scenario is given, takemura alive or not. i thought the whole concept behind this was interesting. also gives the message or questions the meaning of life.
I dont think this is the worst ending. I think suicide is the one, why? Because you accomplish nothing Sure you end your life with your own terms but again you do jack shit.
@@normaaliihminen722 You still destroy Johnny. That's a plus.
@@normaaliihminen722 suomi
@@normaaliihminen722 but you find out that yorinobu was a good guy and you've just helped the evil saburo take over the world
Takemura looks so fcking cool. Props to the designer. Insanely good work right there.
I guess the last word V said before selling his body is “Ugh...”
I’m used to people saying it afterwards
@@EastsideRay Nice.
1:09:23 It was at this moment where V realized: He was right. Everything Johnny hated about Arasaka was true. V gets more and more angry, as V regrets the whole decision of trusting Hanako, until V pulls off the necklace. The bullet that killed V. The bullet that made V meet Johnny. The bullet that doomed V from the start.
poor v
Unpopular opinion, but this is my favorite ending. It’s so dark and soul crushing, but that’s what Night City is at it’s heart. It’s a place where dreams go to die. As much as I love writing off into the sunset with Panam, this feels more in tune with everything that precedes it.
No happy endings in NC, Edgerunners explained that quite well.
1:07:19
"You're all right, Takemura, I like you. don't come to Arasaka tower tomorrow."
Takemura is a cool guy, but he's wayyy too loyal to Arasaka. A corpo rat through and through.
How to you think - did the throw V out into space in alt ending? If yes - Goro was lying to V, right?
@@onik7000 No Id don't think they threw you into space. There is no real reason to believe so.
A true Samurai, loyal to the end. Do dogs bite the hands of their masters? Those that do, are put down.
@@JavierGomezX he is loyal because they rescued him from being a homeless street kid. They saved his life
We'll he grew up with arasaka, he was an orphan from a slum in Japan and got recruted by them (he was a kid). I don't want to know what they do with people to make them loyal. Maybe brainwashed with implants?
It honestly breaks my heart to see V standing there next to the engram table thing at 1:16:39 - He (or She) looks so tired, desperate, defeated even. It always hits hard for me. All that effort to save yourself, all the small victories and defeats you take along the way. Becoming an engram has to be the saddest ending because its V at their lowest. V going back to Earth, you can understand why they'd be angry - 6 months left to live and you spent a portion of it in that space station? All that trouble only to be left disappointed? Sent back to Earth without your shoes? You'd be pissed too. But you get to live those 6 months how you feel so it's not entirely bad.
Aside from the Suicide Endings, the other Endings were at least much more hopeful, that V gets to either live a quiet life (with Aldecaldos) or blaze of glory (becoming head of Afterlife) or if you're more a fan of Johnny, let the rockerboy have a second lease in life.
I think one of the things is V realizes nothing the did mattered and all they were was a pawn for others in this ending. The Arasaka raid wasnt your plan, the chip getting removed didnt help, and all you did was cut off ties with the people that truly cared about V. Arasaka doesnt care, they dont even view you as a threat since they removed the chip and theres no chance of the technology getting in other peoples hands. They had gotten what they wanted from Johnny long ago so shredding the chip isnt any bad thing to them, and even then they likely still have another copy in mikoshi so johnny isnt even free. You're nothing more than a science experiment to them. Proof they can tear a person apart, rip parts of their soul and brain out, and weld them back together with cybernetics and science. The doctor said it best, not even the soul is safe from the edge of a blade anymore.
you basically become Adam Smasher v.2.0
thats a man
V singing Never Fade Away always breaks my heart
Do we really want to live in a world where the rich and powerful can become immortal? Where they can continue to take from the poor not only their livelihoods but even their bodies!?” That part really got me thinking about how the world is really starting to turn out right now
The overarching conflict within this universe is freedom vs duty. In a world, without limits, you can either slum it and be free only to die a "glorious" death, or play the "game" and acquire power, money, and potentially immortality at the cost of your individuality and ultimately shackled by duty/loyalty. The game isnt as black and white as it appears, and as seen in the anime people will do anything to climb the social ladder. A corpo climbing the ladder is no different than a street kid getting chromed out to gain clout, they both lose their humanity in the process. Sadly this is the direction were headed towards, but at least in the game you have the illusion of choice.
I opted for this ending myself, JS and anarchism is not the solution -- true change comes in revolution, the people rising up. The way I see it, the higher you climb, the more power and influence you can acquire, wish there was an ending that eluded towards this, a sort of "working within the system to enact change." The whole world is fucked, arasaka aint any worse than the other gangs in NC -- its just more organized.
The fortress is unbreakable even from the inside. Just look at the mayor candidate (forgot his name). In the end he couldn't even believe if his life was real.
unless you're part of the elite, you're absolutely fucked. just like real life
Cyberpunk as a genre is a warning of sorts
lol the world is no different than it ever was. In fact it's less like that now than before, not more like that. Cyberpunk got everything wrong as a genre.
"Feel that Goro? Night City just gave you another kick in the nuts. Running start this time."
I think that has to be one of my favorite quotes of the game yet
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Takemura: "Hanako has forgotten you. The medical staff asked me to come down to speak with you."
Also Takemura: "Hanako sent me here. She has already signed off on the personality transfer."
Make up your mind dude...
yeah :D
it’s about the *snaps fingers* inconsistent writing
You going to that clinic, Goro? While you're there why don't you get what's his name into Mikoshi?
@@mikicerise6250
@@kaymills696 He's most likely lying. Arasaka only cares about the biochip. Hanako wanted to remove her brother, takeover Arasaka, and probably restore her father to life afterwards. Goro is loyal to Saburo above all else, and Arasaka's research on the chip could bring him back from the dead. So Goro is saying anything that will keep V from leaving.
For all of u asking how to save Takemura in the quest when Arasaka attacks your and Takemuras hideout dont listen to Johnny. When u first enter the room with red lights turn left and crouch to get past a small opening. Then take the stairs and you will find takemura and the end of the hallway
You can also jump up the hole you fell down in if you have double jump or power jump.
@@orrthehunter yeah
@TonyB no problem
I did that
i had superjumping. so i jump back to that motherfucking room through the hole they made
This was the first ending I chose, but not because I trusted Arasaka. I kinda expected some sort of backstabbing or Hanako betraying you in some way (in the end, it turns out you're simply beyond saving). But I was also dissappointed that my corpo!V didn't really get to be... corpo during 99% of game. Earning one of the top seats at Arasaka (even for two minutes of dialogue) felt pretty good.
agree, first i though if i choose corpo then i would play deus ex, more or less
Yeah in the very beginning I was hoping to do more intelligence work and corporate intrigue and stuff, but your character is just designed to hate his job so that's not an option sadly
God, that alternate ending. that lost and scared look on V's face. The complete disregard from the people in the OR. Just soul crushing.
panam yelling at V like wife mad at husband becuse late to back home lmao
Those two are definitely made for each other.
I really wish takemura and many of the other characters had their own side quest
The malfunction - it might be johnny reacting unconsciously considering the relic doesnt act so agressively in other endings
Yea relic malfunctions happen when you do shit Johnny dislikes, like working with corpos etc.
@@thewormemperor not always, doubt Johny disliked my little drink with Panam for instance
@@hutrew14 Perhaps Johnny was pissed at what he lost, he didn't get to be with the one he loved after all.
@@thewormemperor I was playing female V and was not flirty with Panam whatsoever
@@thewormemperor But as Vik said, it's not his fault, it's automatic, it's how the chip is programmed, although in some cases it sure may be an indication of Johny disliking something you do, CDPR loves these little details
57:18 scared the shit out of me when I first saw it. I’ve had nightmares just like that before! Where everything seems calm or routine and then suddenly, jumpscare.
The way the doctor doesn’t even seem human freaked me out so much, how she doesn’t show normal emotion or slight regard for V’s sanity. I’ve never felt legitimate fear of being alone and forgotten until I played this
Still feel like there's some closure missing on the "going back to earth" ending. Especially if you've romanced someone.
Add it to the list of "corners cut to make 2020 release".
@@adriankoch964 supposedly they're gonna try for a no mans sky, they intend to restore cut content, the game will be very different this time next year
@@TheItzal11 While less of a clusterfuck, NMS is still not what was promised just a month before launch.
Still I hope for CDPRs sake that they can turn this around & make a buggy, rushed game with a good base eventually more into a masterpiece a la Blood&Wine.
Considering what Vic says, there is a good chance, that you didn't return. I wouldn't be suprsed, if Arasaka just spaced you like a loose end since you can't be controled.
@@Tabris94 Exactly. Arasaka endings are bullshit and the only people that benefit are Arasaka and Saburo himself.
Even Takemura is not a good reason to select this ending
The Arasaka endings are generally considered "bad" and though what endings are bad or good is a matter of perspective... generally I agree here..., but if Takemura is there I think it greatly changes the slant of the ending.
V had his shot at a full life essentially stolen from him. Johnny is entitled to his opinion, but from a certain point of view, V here is "fighting" to the bitter end to stay alive and defy his fate, even if it means doing something insane like backing up his personality and hoping for an Altered Carbon esque scenerio to happen in the future. You're still essentially signing away your existence and putting your trust in a Corp and luck, but the way I like to see it...if Takemura is there and you've helped him all along the way, you've made a possibly lifelong friend. Someone who might stick his neck out for your second chance, even if everyone else forgets and even if he himself remains in Saburo's service. His little quip about meeting you again to take you to eat some "real" food I think really hits hard, because rather than trusting your luck to the company in a way you're trusting your luck and your very existence to a friend.
It's still a shot in the dark, he may not come through for you, but it's still a chance. It definitely makes the Arasaka ending a bit less depressing than just blindly trusting yourself to an faceless corporation.
talking about Altered Carbon, damn that show had true potential. Couldn't really get into the second season since we got the Quell is back from the dead storyline and wished we got more world building like the first season did.
@@user-go1sl6rd7u agree on that, what also made me dislike season 2 is Takeshi acting like such a mop - a lot different then the first season.
V had a full life he squandered it doing a shitty heist with dex that resulted in him being shot in the head and killed.
Honestly the only endings for me that are "good" are suicide and siding with corp but returning to earth. They are the only endings that don't result in you becoming data. Alt straight tells you that if you become an engram and go back into your body that "Everything changes." You're no longer you. You're a copy just like Johnny. Johnny is a cool character but I would never let him take over even for a second. He is a parasite and the only version of you still being you is with him torn apart. A fitting end in my opinion.
All endings are ment to be subjective of what the player bealives is the best rout personally i dont bealive signing the deal is the equivalent of selling your sole to the devil yes you are arasakas property but i bealive that takemura is right that this is mkre of a reward then a punishment v is a nobody to the arasakas his theft of the relic actually cumilated into their smashing sucess so why would they punish him?
Besides passage of time for a engram in mikoshi dosnt exist and V probably wont notice by the time he gets his bew body
"Good to hear yours too idot, now come home." haha love Panam.
Best character in the game. The writing around here and the voice actress actually makes her feel genuine. I really hope CDPR gives her character more screentime in future dlcs.
“Hanako has already forgotten you…”
“Thats why she sends me…”
Takemura doesn’t lie to well
Yeah, It's almost comically obvious and it fits Takemura so well😂😂
That skill point spent on coolness at 12:53
Its a crazy thought the decision you have to make, spend your last days with your friends and loved ones, say goodbye to the earth, and all your dreams just fade away. Or dont say goodbye to your friends and go to sleep all alone. No friends, no secure future, and breaking the hearts of those who loved you by jist dissapearing.😢 Both options are sad, I hate this game for not having a happy ending. I miss Jackie. Wish we never took that stupid job.😔
that's the Cyberpunk genre for you bud. Much like real life, there are more bad endings than good ones.
I kind of like that there isn't a "good" option, it makes you weigh your choices more and making these decisions makes the game, along with its story and characters, feel so realistic. Often times in life we try to choose the lesser of two evils and often cannot change our circumstances (ie. the death of certain characters or V's health)
Except you play all the endings and eventually pick the Panam one...which I chose first, then the reaper, then the arasaka all that is left is the rogue.
Nomads ending. The only good ending.
@@samuelbishop3316 Why? you're still dead.
"'Member what Dex asked you? "Quiet life or blaze of glory?""
"Sure, I remember."
"Shame you chose wrong, damn shame."
This really hurts me.
That line shot me in the fucking heart. Why does the game do this to me?
Most people I've talked to listened to Johnny panic and ran out of the building, not knowing you could save Goro. That being said, it has a relatively minor impact on the final quest sequence, and no impact on the potential outcomes. I consider it to be the same ending with some extra content personally, but if you feel it's different I would respect your opinion.
Here's how to save him, just in case anyone wonders : ua-cam.com/video/U4lIVP636sw/v-deo.html
Hanako contacting V in the credits after refusing their offer proves they didn't forget about him. They didn't want him getting in the way, but had no qualms about using him for their own purposes.
Picked the Hanako's offer because don't like Johnny to be in the driver seat and also don't want to risk Panam's life. I thought I can use Hanako as pawn and destroy Arasaka, but the game seems to have only one direction if you pick Hanako's offer, really left a bitter taste in my mouth.
I'd rather put Panams life in danger honestly. She's one if the only people that really care about you enough to never stop trying.
@@samuelbishop3316 Or you could just fuck it and do it all by yourself with “don’t fear the reaper” ending. You don’t have to romance anybody or do quest. You only need like wait a few minutes on the roof until Johnny say something.
SAME MY BROTHER
i thought "oh she thinks i am going to do exactly what she wants? hahahaha yes i will but after i am healed, i will destroy her and arasaka"
and then we literally cant destroy arasaka :(
Meredith Stout DLC idea:
This character felt like she could of having a lot of potential and impact in the game, here are some of my ideas:
She is Romancable (by both genders)
She has side quests, which deal with Militech
Gives you another possible ending, where you side with Militech and help them become more powerful because of the side quests that you completed for them as well as killing Yorinobu Arasaka as well as Hanako. Moreover, if you didn't save Takemura and didn't kill Oda then, you would have a potential of 3 Hard boss fights (which are Takemura, Oda (who becomes much stronger than your last fight) and of course Adam Smasher.
The Ending entails to a potential future war between the two corporate companies which could then be seen in a later Expansion of the game.
Moreover, the ending would lead to the Militech Scientists saying they can save you by finding a potentially suitable body for you provided you stay alive within the next 6 months.
not mad
Strongly agreed
agreed even though that potential corpo war is already there and it's not really just potential
@@minutenreis yes, buy this time its happening directly on the streets but not inderictly on the net
@@salzshady8794 I meant Yorinobu seeking a Corporate war and not getting stopped since we don't help Hanako in the other endings.
Fun fact.
The Arasaka daddy's desk is the same model as Kerry's dining table. ;-)
honestly these endings are so well scripted, like a movie
i could cry
All endings end with v dying. Dam.
@@frostytaco8598 whether it’s spiritually or physically
To be honest the best scenario is letting johnny take the body. The body will live on for a very long time just with a engram of Johnny Silverhand inside of it. Its doing something good out there instead of expecting it to die in 8 months with pain and agony archiving a few things. Its even better if you choose don't fear the reaper ending since V goes out in style even if he/she dies before and after getting to Mikoshi.
@@frostytaco8598 not really, the ending with Panamm where V keeps his body has at least hope he will live.
@@lars1701again Yeah but you see V coughing blood while talking with panam in the ending. He or she is dying and the only way to save V is a new mind. The brain is damaged.
I love V’s expression as he rips off his necklace, as if it’s agonizing to even consider the idea before he does it. Fantastic animation.
I went for the Devil ending for my Corpo roleplay and for Takemura. As much as I love Takemura and thought the interaction with him was beautiful, I regret everything else about this ending.
This ending pisses me off, Arasaka's best and brightest buy you no time? This ending should be the "save your body, sell your soul" ending, where continued treatments keep you alive, but you have to accept a position within Arasaka working for Takemura as deputy chief of security- for life - and go with him to Tokyo. Everyone you've met and care about hates you for being a sellout, and you have to leave them all behind with no notice, but you get Corpo V's original dream. You can say no, of course, but the Arasaka won't pay for the 6 million eddy/month experimental nano-treatment mcguffin, and we go back to V having 6 months and heading back to NC.
The game also needed a HEAVILY built up but completely missing synthesis ending, where Alt merges you and Johnny into a single lifeform capable of living in V's body, and a Delemain ending where his greater understanding of the human element allows him to come up with a solution (maybe gives johnny the body and writes V into the biochip, so that V eventually takes the body back over - essentially giving JOHNNY the 6 months to live.
Straight up facts, well said
Especially like your second idea. Completed the Delemain quest with the option to merge the entities. At the point I was in Mikoshi talking with Johnny and Alt, needing to decide which one stays in the body my first thought also was "why not merge" and immediately reminded myself of Delemain. Was also disappointed it didn't show up there somehow to propose this alternative option.
Bet merging will be some kinda dlc/expansion
You're giving CDPR too many ideas, their heads are going to explode.
it's too sad man especially when he pulls out the bullet necklace
It’s like V is holding on to the only thing that is apart of himself/herself. Very Bleak ending, you have hope of living but at what cost, will it even be you in the end
Only thing I saw was a man standing next to an electric chair and saying his last prayers.
This game deserved a "shura" ending like Sekiro where V just kills everyone and destroys night city
Technically the Don't Fear The Reaper ending
@@rentherengend1306 what I mean by this though, is if V killed off all the Arasakas then destroyed the city
@@Joe21345 I think that would be more akin to a psycho ending and I do agree it should have been possible just to enhance the role-playing aspect of the game. But that would actually be an extremely sad ending, even worse than this one. An ending where V ends up as a blood-lusting cyberpsycho.
I was really hoping that secret ending ended up with you and Johnny nuking the city again but oh well I guess we don’t have a city to burn.
@@oliverm9876 You did worse than nuke a building though... you destroyed their finances and hierarchy.
This is the only ending that slowly filled me with dread. It's like every moment was worse than the last one. I just felt like there was no hope. Masterfully crafted.
I'm going to be real here. The only reason why I haven't finished Cyberpunk2077 is that I'm waiting to see if we get a Goro Takemura type of DLC. For me... this is simple. Goro...REALLY doesn't have it coming. He's like the only 'good guy' we meet in that rotten-ass corporation, and I don't want to screw him over. Hanako is... well... she did a complete 180 from how she was in the paper game so the one we meet in the actual videogame is... well... I don't mind stabbing her in the back. But, my main man Goro... he doesn't have it coming.
Honestly the "Devil's Plan" doesn't sound that bad. Promises a sequel where we fight V if chosen this path. Cloning is a thing in this world and if Arasaka permits, rather, requires, then an "new" V isn't too far-fetched. The Arasakas just need more time to fully control V and when they do, they'll clone 'em and put the engram inside.
I feel like it would be real nice to have a DLC where arasaka V is given a new body, gets hired by arasaka again and transferred to japan. Then the bromance adventure with Takemura can continue where he finally shows you what good food is, while showing all the things he likes in Japan like some kid showing off his toys to his friend.
I hope to see if they go the route of a sequel for them to have this be the canon ending. Its not a great ending, but one with a lot of interesting implications and they can go for the Mass Effect route of having the choices you made in this game effect the V in the future one. Even straight up copying your V's appearance (as a clone now) to add that extra bit. Maybe don't make it glaringly obvious that V has started working for Arasaka and the players will inevitably trust this character that WAS their V only to have them be betrayed. Would add a nice sting and honestly make for some really interesting story to me. Then again players who didn't pick this ending would hate that probably.
This ending only really works as a "good" ending if Goro is still alive.
Otherwise it's just prolonged suicide. Even getting stored in Mikoshi doesn't really help because you are instantly Arasaka property with no one you can trust to bail you out.
Literally one button press away from getting wiped.
Man, even with Takemura, signing that contract has gotta be the worst possible ending.
Think about it - V is someone who's already successfully raided Arasaka. They survived multiple fully armed death squads, defeated Oda and kidnapped Hanako, and (in the Devil ending) slaughtered Yorinobu's entire elite guard, as well as Adam Smasher. All with Johnny Silverhand living in their mind. To Arasaka, V is one of their biggest threats - someone capable of taking them on, and inspiring others to do the same.
It's almost certain Arasaka will never give V a body. At best, they'll be stuck in a hard drive doing nothing for eternity. Even with Takemura alive, that probably won't change. He's just a tool to Arasaka, they won't care what he thinks.
There's a reason that final prompt is "surrender to Arasaka" - that's what you're doing. You're not winning, and you're not surviving. You're surrendering. Because you failed. If you got this ending, well, Johnny put it best.
"It's a shame you chose wrong. Damn shame."
I tend to agree
That's very optimistic.. given what V can do, more likely they'll try to do what Johnny always feared, take away the part that makes you you. V would be the perfect corporate soldier, everything human stripped away. In many ways similar to Saburo, who, even when he was alive, was already pretty divorced from humanity
I know this is a year old comment but I personally think this is the best ending (or the suicide one since you kill more people that didnt have to be killed)
But the surrender ending is the only one with a possibility to even live. All the others you die shortly, yea its on your terms but realistically. Who doesnt want to have immortality.
I personally do think Arasaka will honor him with giving him a new body. might even be specially lab made in the future or maybe even like Smashers body.
I also just really like Arasaka so I might be biased lol. Just think joining Arasaka might be your best bet at staying alive
late reply, but: you being arasaka property, if they ever do get around to getting you a body (doubtful, but hey) they can install you as another adam smasher at a different headquarter, or to replace adam himself in the NC hq if he died in the intervening time or you killed him yourself.
having the guy who almost singlehandedly took back arasaka tower *for arasaka* on your security team would certainly help in dissuading folks from acting up, possibly including other companies--or they use you in the likely inevitable war, since you've more than proven your effectiveness.
(not sucking up to arasaka to make them look better, just noting that while you're a threat, you're a rather useful one, so there's a potential out in that case)
@@leafgreenbeast you know the theory I have about finding a new body isnt that hard. Just donate your semn/egg with a host that is like paid by arasaka. Then when you have a kid just take his body. Its dark but hey thats cyberpunk
I played through the 3 main endings (Rogue, Arasaka and Nomad) and I like the nomad option the best. I did feel kinda bad after listening to the Takemura's message during the credits because he was actually really cool and chill during the story, I wish the nomad ending had a way to take him with you (just like Judy if you romanced her).
I agree but I feel like Takemura is happiest by his Masters side. He probably would’ve never gone with you.
Takemura is such a badass. He fights smasher with you and even taunts him. Also doesn't die like those gonks Saul and Rouge
the fact that you can say 'johnny' as an association with 'home' just breaks my heart
AHH DONT REMIND ME 😭🥺 i miss johnny! also for betrayal, i put “me.” ☹️
I can never and will never go through with this ending. Johny saved V's life at least twice, considered V his best friend, and will sacrifice himself so that V could live on even for just 6 more months. This ending is V spitting in Johny's face and stomping on everything Johny's ever said to him. Thank you though for going through this so that I could just watch it without having to do it myself.
I feel the same way too dam this is fucked up.
Yeah thats why it upsets me that goro is livid with you in the endings where you stay true to your freedom and johnny. Goro had talked about leaving everything behind. Wished he just would in the other endings.
It is. I literally regret doing it.
If you don't befriend Johnny and consistently push him away in fear of him manipulating you into giving up your body, then go for this ending AND end up imprisoned in Arasaka's cyberjail for eternity then you get an incredibly dark and depressing story. Like I did on my first playthrough. Damn this ending crushed me
Can't bring myself to do any of these endings. I got my canon with Panam and Judy with the Aldecaldos.
On a sidenote,i didn't know you could save Goro but with the ending i chose i'm glad i didn't..wouldn't want him to insult me and kill himself.
I got that ending too, but I don't regret saving Goro. Everyone deserves a chance, right? We do, so why not Goro? He saved our life, now we save his. His fate is then his to decide.
@@JavierGomezX with a litle luck, maybe a dlc would be nice to see Goro living and enjoying his life.
@@JavierGomezX I wouldn't mind a self contained Goro-DLC, playing his side of the story, with one of the possible DLC endings meeting V again 30 years later in Japan.
Wish that idiot would listen to my advice and start a new life away from all that Arasaka stuff. Nah, he would stay loyal to the corp. Well, at least he had a chance to let go, begin again. He lost it. Sad, but that's what he chose.
@@АлександрДараган-з8ц Clearly you're a New Vegas connoisseur 😉
I thought it was similar but this sounds exactly like “Altered Carbon”
Exactly what I was thinking
I think the anime version, resleeved was it? fits this one very well too, including aesthetic wise
Accepting the contract feels like an execution
yeah
Well it is. The original V will die and the engram which is just a copy will survive.
I don't see another comment about it, but I think there's a hidden beauty by signing the contract when you see who's delivering you to the room. It's Hajime - a name that means beginning in Japanese. I know a lot of people hate the bitterness of this ending, but I feel like with Takemura's 'visit me' line and only asking Hajime's name in this path it hints that you aren't truly fading into the aether of Arasaka. It will be a new beginning. This is how you come back to world, either as the canonical ending for the sequel or as a soft 'guarantee' that you will come back.
Maybe it's me coping, but I felt oddly at peace with this ending knowing Hajime's name.
Interesting thoughts, when I played this ending I felt really sad for a couple of days. But that little detail about hajime makes me feel a little better about it. It would make an interesting sequel if in the opening arasaka put your engram in a new body years later and use you as their primary Merc in night city.
I know. A lot of people hate this ending because they played Nomad or Street kid. They never really did Corpo and RP'd the way a coprorate type would. Play it right and all your allies and friends are alive and want to help you/ see you again. Take the deal and your a engram for a while new sequel cloaned body. Refuse and your an Arasaka made cyborg. IF you are Corpo V to start with ... this ending makes a lot of sense. Corpo V would want back in graces and to run with the top brass.
@@HontasFarmer80corpo V has all the more reasons to stick it to Arasaka, not to align with them.
So the dialogue isn’t consistent with Goro where he says that Hanako forgot V at the 1:03:10 mark and he was called from the clinic. Then he says at the 1:04:48 mark that Hanako sent him there which doesn’t make sense. Those are two conflicting ideas.
Maybe Hanako didn't tell him everything.
Yeah there's something fishy there
@@kiara6237 That doesn’t make sense though because Goro says Hanako forgot him and then a minute and a half later said that he was sent by her. That’s a screw up in writing and someone should have picked up on that.
@@xLetalis I just don’t get it honestly and don’t see how that got through.
@@DanV900 It might be that Hanako had indeed forgotten about him until the moment the clinic called.
Dr. Kusama: Hanako-Sama, the man you sent to me for surgery is acting up, demanding answers, what should I do?
Hanako: Who?
Dr. Kusama: The mercenary? One Vincent?
Hanako: I have no idea who you are talking about.
Dr. Kusama: The Biochip carrier
Hanako: Ooooh, that guy, what's his face, what about him?
Dr. Kusama: He is acting up.
Hanako: Oh alright, I'll send someone over.
Silverhand sends his regards? Choosing this ending is kinda betraying Johnny so that's a bit strange thing to say.
Johnny is kind of an asshole so whatever
@@INFERNOdll Yes actually. Johnny is nothing more than a parasite. He as a person wasn't ever even a good guy. He would be fun to hang out with at a party, but it no way would letting him have a second chance actually be satisfying. Worse it's not even really him. It's just a construct. The real Johnny died long ago. He has no right to life anymore. Fuck him and let him be incinerated.
@@johnlarken4744 ahahha this man HATED Johhny Silverhands
@@ilovemysherypie01 I'd be inclined to hate anything that invaded my body/mind and tried to take it over. Regardless of its intentions. The fact that the guy is a complete ass just makes it easier.
@@johnlarken4744 Did Johnny chose to invade V's head?
Did he orchestrated taking over V's body?
Or was he trying to help his own way?
Can you hate somebody for trying to help you even if it's killing you incidentally?
Or was Johnny shoved up your head because you took a bullet after YOU shoved Jackie's chip (or gun...) inside your own head?
I think having Goro in this ending kinda swaps things around a bit. Because he is like Panam and Rogue, a friend. Having him alive gives you a bigger excuse than just trusting Hanako in this ending.
I never cried at a games end. But cyberpunk just got me 😢
I know people may see this as crazy, considering the corpo hate from both the game itself and the fans, but the Arasaka family handles you in very good faith. People seem to not realize that the corp not only pardons your transgression of stealing from them, but they actually honor their deal in treating you. Mind you this is the only ending which you are not soul killed (unless you agree to later). Which is ironic, seeing how the game tries to sell you the bs of selling out to the corp when you literally trade countless souls to alt (who I doubt is an ally to humanity in the long run), sacrifice allies, AND get soul killed for the same result as the Arasaka ending. The cherry on top is that the world is in way worse place for the common man considering Yorinobu is a corpo version of Johnny (maybe worse) as he is arguably worse than his father and has a corpo war on the horizon. I don't get how the writers (or fans) believe the others endings are even remotely better when looking at the big picture. People speak about how evil Arasaka is (and for good reason I know), but they are not antagonistic towards you at all. The crazy thing is how people complain about how you are treated on the station, which I find utterly laughable/insane. You are isolated. In the palm of the 'enemy'. In space. Do they lie to V? Do you wake up strapped to the soulkiller, with the Arasaka's taunting you before adding your useful soul to their collection? Do they do any inhumane and tortuous experimentation to a vulnerable V, keeping him/her in their clutch's to expand their scientific research for the relic? Is V wisked off to a terrible fate, never to be heard from again? No. They keep their word, subject you to harmless exercises by a cold and detached doctor (Really, are people crying about this? From Arasaka?) Then instead of just releasing you where you die later suddenly (how truly cold of a ending would that have been?) they inform you that the operation is a failure and give you a CHOICE. Enlist in the secure your soul for 'free' (c'mon, the Saka family obviously sees you as extremely valuable and want to retain you, but hey, in cyberpunk having value is not bad. Especially if the Saka corp is being this good faith about it) or you can live and die on your own terms. Again, I ask how is this OBJECTIVLY worse? Because some people with a hate boner for corpos (is understandable to a point) spill some bs morals lies about freedom and nihilism? In a game where you are a cog in a wheel who sells your services to do all sorts of things that are questionable? I also believe that Hanako will honor her deal and restore you because everything she has done for you is only positive. They have had numerous opportunities to soulkill, trick, or outright subdue/kill you. Why would they waste time why they could take you by force? Especially when you would be of no use to them initially (you would be a special engram that needs a special body) they have every power to treat you as an object and resource they could subjugate freely, yet choose to regard you as an ally and asset. Maybe there is some honor among them, in their own special way......
goro is a honorable man , but cant do shit. everybody 's trapped in this vortex.
Honor is what binds people together, for better or for worse.
Takemura is one of the best characters in game i'm going with the secret ending and it's a shame
No arasakas daughter is the best in the game
@@lisavanderpump7475 she's very good yes but i miss my samurai friend even do he's not one
@@lisavanderpump7475 What game did you play ?
@@noobFPV cyberpunk 2077 thank you
@@lisavanderpump7475 In what way is Hanako best ?
Damn Johnny’s disappointment is just such a gut punch. Everything about this ending screams wrong choice lol
36:22 Best and most emotional thing is here that Johnny under some circumstances can say instead of Dexes words “Remember what Jackie said? Hold on to this chip for me”. And that was damn one of the saddest things in game