JAWS - DISCUSSING & RECREATING ALEX KINTNER'S ORIGINAL DEATH SCENE!
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
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Long notorious, the original death scene for young Alex Kintner in Jaws was far more extreme and graphic than that seen in the final cut of Spielberg's masterpiece.
Uber-fan, Kilt-Man, goes through what really happened, what was intended, what was shot and just why we never got to see this savage original sequence as initially planned.
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Quint discusses what really happened to Ben Gardner
• BEN GARDNER'S HEAD .....
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Pippit coming to meet them at the shore at the end credits of the film would honestly made this undisputed master piece even better ❤
Well, we never saw Pippet die ... so in OUR version, mate, Pippet lives on! 🐺💪💪🦈👍
Jaws is the perfect shark movie.
It is, mate. Lightning in a bottle. 💪🦈🦈👍
@@Kilt-ManChris and the first summer blockbuster & jaws 2 is the second best shark movie 👍👌
@@paulicke3483 Deep Blue Sea is better than Jaws 2.
I love Deep Blue Sea.. I've reviewed it and provided a watch party commentary for it too. 🦈🦈🦈👍👍👍
Jaws is a perfect movie...
Robert Shaw should have won best supporting actor at the Oscars!!
Definitely. Whilst Verna Fields and John Williams justifiably won, Shaw was snubbed. It was 80 year old George Burns who got the Oscars for his role in The Sunshine Boys.
We all know who deserved it more.
@Kilt-ManChris cheers for the info. I'm going to watch that film to see the comparison in George Burns performance.
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I totally agree 💯%.👍.
He'd be up for lead. Not supporting.
The Kitner scene was frightening enough to think there was a more gruesome scene is interesting cause that scene made a significant impact on my younger mind
Well, mate, as you've heard here ... yes, indeed, Alex Kintner's death was originally much more horrific and frightening. Although I love the idea of it and the images and footage, as I explained in the video, it would radically alter the tone of the film we know and love.
Cheers 🦈🦈🦈💥
It STILL freaks me out!
“You know what this is?sick vandalism” used to say that to my dad anytime something in or town was broken and he would agree but me and my brother would be laughing quietly lol
Really entertaining video, KITMAN Chris!
Many thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
There's a helluva lot more Jaws material on the Channel ... and a few more things hooked-up on the line 🦈🦈👍
Clicked on the vid to scroll through and find the scene. Stayed for the awesome commentary. Subscribed.
That means a lot. Thanks so much.
My Channel is ... well ... me. But, hopefully, a lot of fun as well.
Great to have you here.
Cheers 🦈🦈🦈🦈💥
They shouldn’t reboot JAWS it’s a perfect movie!!!
Jaws being shown at my local cinema next week, It will be my first time seeing it on the big screen 😁
It's a truly thrilling cinematic experience watching Jaws on the big screen 👍🦈🦈🦈
The bit where Cartwright jumps back at the gore and falls over the back of the banquette is in the Chestburster Multi-Angle feature. It looks like a genuine, unscripted on-set accident.
The actors didn’t know where the blood hoses were positioned in the scene. They all knew something was going to come out Hurt’s chest.
Back on topic, I’ve been long wanting to see the 1979 ABC television airing of JAWS get a home video release - it’s a missing piece of JAWS history - it was the way in which I first saw the film (in 1983), and I’ve a lot of nostalgia for it. The JAWS 2 expanded television airing would also be good.
I heard somebody say the dog Pipet actually lived and just went home to get food. I don't know if that's true or not but I like to think that more than Bruce having a snack
In reality, that's exactly what she did do, because she lived there.
It's definitely nicer to think that Pipet didn't become Bruce's toothpick, though.
Cheers 🐺🦈💥
Frank mundus was the real life quint fisherman who hunted great white sharks for sport 🦈👍🤗
I am looking forward to get the jaws Lego set on August 6th 😁
Looks fantastic, doesn't it!
Hopefully, I'll be reviewing that at some point. 🦈🦈🦈⛵⛵🦈🦈🥃💥
@@Kilt-ManChris yea for sure 🙂 I got the back to the future delorean set too. That's A good one too 🙂
"Now fellas..
Now is not the time, nor the place to do some half assed autopsy on a fish..
And im not gonna stand here, see that thing get cut open, and have that Little Kitner boy spill out all over the dock!!"
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@@Kilt-ManChris I too am Scottish 🏴, so I can relate. Probably have the same sense of humor 😆
3:30 - Actually, Pipit running across the beach to welcome Brody and Hooper home would have probably been seen as Brody and Hooper drowning at sea and arriving in the afterlife. Kinda like the scene at the end of The Iron Claw where Kerry Von Erich arrived in the afterlife and is greeted by all of his brothers.
Yeah, I can see that. Alongside Ben Gardner, Chrissie Watkins, Alex and the estuary victim, they could all become Force Ghosts.
Pretty certain Quint would turn to the Dark Side.😉
Cheers 🦈🦈🦈👍
@@Kilt-ManChris One thing about that scene from The Iron Claw. Not all of the brothers would have gone to heaven. Kerry and Michael committed suicide. That's a mortal sin. Dave and Jack would have gone to heaven. Their deaths were accidental. The others all would have ended up in the other place.
It was a beautiful scene, and I love the sentiment. But for people as religious as the Von Erich's mom, the truth is that not all of her sons found their way into heaven.
@@Thundarr100 Question. Where in the Bible is it said that suicide is unforgivable?
@@muscledoggs566 Not exactly sure. That might just be a Catholic belief that isn't necessarily shared with other Christian denominations. But generally speaking, committing suicide is considered a one way ticket downstairs.
@Thundarr100 Just so you know, but I promise I'm not trying to be rude. If you listen to a church series on UA-cam called Unhook The Book, you'll see that all sins were forgiven when Jesus said "It is done". Not that we still shouldn't strive to be our best selves or try to teach others about the Bible, but God knew we could never measure up after the fall, which is why Jesus was born onto this Earth to begin with.
Instant subscribe! I was wondering if you can do a video on the two deleted scenes from “Poltergeist” where in one it was a giant ghost head of an old man smashing through the closet doorframe, roaring and laughing at a terrified Steven Freeling instead of the skull that they later went with & the other where Diane Freeling was dragged up the wall and ceiling while a gigantic spider-stain grows on the wall and attacks her.
Many thanks!
Plenty of stuff on the Channel to explore.
Yeah, I think I can do something about that. I have massively reviewed Poltergeist fairly recently as well. So check that out.
Got a lot of stuff lined-up, but yeah ... interesting idea.
Cheers mate! 🦈💪👻🦇🦇🥃
Jaws is my favorite film of all time! R.I.P. Robert Shaw and Roy Scheider!
Never forgotten. Their performances are immortal. 👍🦈🥃
Batman 89 is my personal preference.
Jaws 2 is one of my favorite sequels ever 🍻🙌 really appreciate the adequate lighting to during this video. Not many channels figure it out 😅
Being such a huge Jaws/fascination with sharks since youth, i definitely am sad not getting to universal for the Jaws ride 💥🙄
Hello from Cleveland Ohio usa brother!
Great to hear from you, amigo!
I wish I'd gone on the old Universal Jaws Ride too! 🦈🦈🦈👍👍
This movie is a classic film one of if not my favourite film of all time, the head in the boat scene (i know its coming) makes me jump every time, love the videos.
Hi, do you know if anything big is planned in the UK for the 50th celebrations next year?
Sadly, no real big events in the UK have been put forward as yet.
Jaws will definitely be out in cinemas again and, I suspect, some in-water screenings again.
But I've heard of no special events being staged yet. I'm certain there will be something ... and I, for one, will be providing a LOT of anniversary coverage on the Channel ... mark my words.
Anything else I hear about, I'll report on.
Cheers 🦈🦈🦈🦈
And I'm amazed a vinyl soundtrack reissue hasn't been available for ages 😕
As you say Kilty, you never need an excuse to talk about the greatest movie ever made...
Taking a leaf out of Luke's book, going to see the classic in the Cinema.
As Jaws is playing in my local flicks all this week, as part of Bring them back.
So im going with my son tomorrow, cant wait. 🦈
Jaws remains one of the most thrilling experiences on the Big Screen that I've ever had. I saw it on UK release multiple times and then many more times on revivals and re-releases.
Seeing it on the doublebill with Jaws 2 was SOOO awesome!
Enjoy, Cap'n Ronnie and First Mate Jamie! 🦈🦈🦈🦈💥💥💥👍
Jaws is my all time favorite movie. I WANT THAT T-SHIRT!!
The back of it actually has the Jaws theme printed on it
Duhhh-duh, duhhh-duh
Duh-duh duh-duh, duh-duh etc
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I like that Jaws 2 poster on the background. Where is it from?
That's a canvas sent by my mate and super Channel Contributor Steve 007 Smith. If you look, you can see many more canvases he has sent.
He sends clues and I have to work out what the movie is - always prompting a big unveiling and impromptu review.
However, I've covered Jaws 2 a lot via review and big watch party.
Brilliant image, isn't it! 🦈🦈🦈👍
@Kilt-ManChris That's dope! Is it available to buy, or is it something your friend made personally?
Wernt expecting the bag of quavers as a raft 😂😂
Improvise and adapt. Wolfman wasn't expecting a Great White Shark either! 🐺🦈🥃👍
Spielberg would use the dolly/zoom Vertigo effect two more times in his career, in E.T., up on a hilltop looking down on Elliott's neighborhood, and in his unofficial co-directing of Poltergeist, when Mom Diane tries to venture down what seems to become a neverending hallway to get to her children's bedroom door.
Yes, indeed.
I discussed that shot in Poltergeist fairly recently in a big celebration of the movie.
The comedy show Everyone Loves Raymond also made great tongue-in-cheek use of it too.
Cheers 👍👍 🦈
Cool figures of hooper and quint in the background 🤗👍
They're always lurking about somewhere ... arguing and comparing scars 🥃🦈
@@Kilt-ManChris id like to buy a model of quints boat the orca but they seem to command a premium price 😁👍🦈
@@Kilt-ManChris best line in jaws with quint n hooper what you got there portable shower or monkey cage with that hopper says anti shark cage ....n quint says you go in the water shark's in the water our shark n starts singing the song farewell and ado to you ladies of Spain for we've received orders for the sail back to Boston n shall never more shall we see you again n quint starts to chuckle at hooper lol 👍😁
Yeah, to scale with the Neca figures and the forthcoming Bruce - it would have to be HUGE! You're gonna need a bigger shelf!
There is the Lego version with Bruce and our three heroes coming out in a few weeks that looks amazing. I'll be getting that for sure.
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@@Kilt-ManChris cool my sweety has a small shark's tooth in a silver holder ......very cool
I saw the original footage years ago. it was really gory.
Oh, it's shocking stuff for sure.
Well that was on Steven Spielberg
Well, Joe Alves didn't approve of the shot he got, but Spielberg would have had producers Zanuck and Brown breathing down his neck about it too.
Cheers. 🦈🦈💥
I've loved sharks ever since I saw Jaws when I was 13. ❤🦈
They are incredible creatures. Unchanged for millennia and possibly the secret to curing cancer and other diseases. They are terrifying ... yet beautiful. Not monsters in reality, but still nightmare fuel in movies.
Great to hear from you. 👍🦈🦈🥃
So glad you covered this myth. Indeed, we actually ended up seeing MORE of the shark than Alves wanted to show. I've lost count how many times people have mistakenly thought that the "original" scene showed the shark much more during the Kintner attack but was cut because it was too gory. On top of what you already argued, it would have made the pier scene where the shark is completely hidden redundant. To show the shark fully in one scene then completely hide it again in a following scene would have been ridiculous. For the Kintner scene we just see a bit but not enough. Only when we've watched it repeatedly on video, DVD and Blu Ray can we tell what it is. At the cinema for the first time, we didn't. People watching it now for the first time still say "what was that?". 😉
I have always assumed Brody wasn't fixated on Alex when Alex was taken and probably looking more at Michael, so he didn't see the fins clearly but he did see Alex erupt in a fountain of blood and that's what shocked him.
Cheers. Loved the Quaver attack. 👍
The Quaver/Wolfman attack genuinely worked SO much better in rehearsal!
Aye, the pier scene would, indeed, be redundant. Showing Bruce in mighty chomping daylit glory so early would have seriously compromised the growing suspense and realisation of what this fish is capable of.
Great to hear from you!
Many thanks 🦈🦈🦈💥👍👍👍
@@Kilt-ManChris Especially as the pier scene was the first shark incident filmed by Spielberg, in May '74, and with a deliberately unseen shark.
Id like to know what they originally did for the Kintner scene, seeing as the pick up shot by Alves in Katama Bay was filmed in the September while the rest of it was filmed in June. Was it just the fountain of blood. Must have initially had something else in mind on top of just that.
Hope you enjoyed eating the quavers 😂.
the wild geese in the background,fantastic film.
@MegaGordyboy oh, it's great, isn't it!
Big reviews of it elsewhere on the Channel!
Big one here
ua-cam.com/video/6-NIVsHMyKM/v-deo.htmlsi=06xcobKKz6WP-TR8
Cheers. Great to hear from you 💥💥👍👍🥃🥃🥃
I prefer The Wild Geese too Jaws
Hi Chris, We know about Mrs Kinter angry with Brody. But in Jaws the Revenge she's scene with the Brody Family when Sean died. I thought She hated the family?
Time is a great healer. She would've felt for Ellen having lost a husband and a son.
Let's face it, Brody destroyed the shark that killed her own son and then saved a bunch of teens from another Great White a few years later.
But, in reality, she's just there to add some connective tissue to the original movie.
Cheers 😉🦈🦈🦈👍
@@Kilt-ManChris Thank for the reply. Also eveyone keeps talking about how the Mayor mess up. But they forget to blame the Medical Guy. He falsified his autopsy report. And while Vaughn showed regret later, the Medical did not care when Hooper scold Him
@htruman Aye, the ME is just a yes man for the Mayor and the Amity Selectmen. We know that Vaughan was in trouble with the Mob in the book and the film jettisons all that ... but the committee is corrupt and misguided but still powerful. They can control the ME and they definitely push against Brody and the local Police Dept. There is a lot more going on, although it's really only implied in the movie.
In The Meg the dog was named Pippet as a nod to Jaws. And Pippet survived in The Meg
Well, tbh, the dog in The Meg is actually called Pippin - but it is still a small, sly nod to Pippet. 👍
@@Kilt-ManChrisfor YEARS I always thought it was TIPPET lol
Thought I would say this here as I can see no other place. I just saw on UA-cam and I confirmed it via Google that actress and Shining star Shelley Duvall had died this day of July 11th 2024 RIP
Aye, tragic news. Complications from diabetes, they have said.
Fragile, quirky and unique. She had some problems over the years, but she was an incredible actress.
@@Kilt-ManChris Sad and true!
how did the head end up inside the bottom of the boat,always wondered about that.
@@MegaGordyboy Lots of theories about this. I've covered them previously. As originally scripted, Ben has a terrible encounter and is severely chomped.
The film opts for the shock scare - which really works - but then never elaborates on it.
They towed the boat in, but we get no Hooper autopsy and only a couple of throwaway lines - mostly about the tooth "the size of a shot glass" and that's it for ol' Ben. 🦈🦈🦈
@@Kilt-ManChris I always theorised Ben had a heart attack or got severely injured when the shark attacked his boat and went and cowered down below (like Tina in Jaws 2) and died and it's his whole body that floated in front of Hooper after his boat flooded. A fish ate his eye.
I haven't seen your theory yet ✌️
And their are two different heads representing Gardner
Who in 2024 still have the JAWS slurpie cup
Oh I wish!
Don't recall them on any UK theatrical run. We got t-shirts tho.
Don't think they could do that with kids now days. I always wondered, did they blow up one of the sharks at the end or what did they use?
We see one of the sled-towed sharks barrelling towards Brody on the crows nest - and looking really good too ... but the explosion is actually a cylinder on a platform that has been filled with squid, fish guts and a ton of fake blood. 🦈🦈🦈
@@Kilt-ManChris They had an actual shark head that they filled up with all that gunk. There is a picture of the head in Edith Blake's book being loaded up with it. If you pause the film a split second before the explosion you can see the head. 😊
As cool as it is the way it is in the film is better. Less is more. The glimpse of the shark is far more mysterious. You dont really know what you're seeing
Exactly, mate. It was intended to be horribly extreme, but the circumstances I explained resulted in something that was much better for the film.
Cheers 🦈🦈🦈💥
@@Kilt-ManChris Although the outtake of the shot looked really fabulous. They said the dummy kept popping out of the sharks mouth but from what I've seen there was more than enough to make the shot work. I think it was too much of a reveal on the shark too early
A beautifully filmed picture. I love the dolly zoom on Sherrif Brody in this scene.
I have this image framed in my bar next to an image of the orca.. both black n white
Love it! 🦈🦈🦈
Still and forever more the best Movie of all time, absolute perfection. Still as terrifying almost 50 yrs later.
Oft-imitated. But nothing else comes close. 🦈🦈🦈🥃🥃🥃
@@Kilt-ManChris Wolfman on Quavers multibag, pure genius 😂
Perfect Movie.
It definitely is! Monster movie, Horror movie, thriller, chiller, adventure ... and, most amazingly, a terrific and iconic character study.
Cheers mate 🥃🦈🥃🦈🥃💥
I hope Jaws gets a remake or reboot one day
No. Jaws is one film Hollywood does not need to touch.
@@BloodandSoil990 depending on how this new Alien film goes I could see Fede Alvarez or another horror director taking a more faithful adaptation to the book. With modern visual effects it would really bring some of the scenes to life that just couldn’t be done at the time and with the animatronic shark
I think they should have left it in.
I would love to have seen it ... BUT ... as I explained in the video, it would alter the course of the movie that we know and love too much.
It remains one of those great what ifs ...
Cheers 🦈💥
@@Kilt-ManChris : I seen it in the theater back in 1975 - my father took me. I was 7 years old. And we lived on the water, the Barnegat Bay but water lol.
YOU DIDN'T EVEN SPELL KINTNER RIGHT...
God, I never noticed. Sorted it now.
It's KItner, I think.
No, it is definitely Kintner, mate.
Not buying "the sun wasn't right." This was the movie's money shot, its "chestburster." Alex's death scene is never filmed, only glimpsed in the awesome storyboards - he's blown out of the water floatie and all and like the footage of so many seals during Shark Week he goes into the shark's mouth and is crunched. I think he walked away from it because he wanted that coveted PG rating for a much wider release, which he got. But lets be frank: JAWS was never filmed. This movie is not the novel in any way, shape or form. The novel is blacker than David Finch's "Se7en." Everybody is guilty... Brodie's wife starts an affair w/ Hooper (which would've been an R rating - adultery/sex), the reason the mayor is adamant the beach stay open is because the town is financed by the Mafia running gambling dens (he flees the town when they have to close it), and Brodie is a cuck stewing with insecurities about his younger good-looking wife but also fantasizing about the nubile young girls on the beach. Brodie tries to kill Hooper on the boat and "accidentally" shoots him in the head when the shark has him in his mouth. The shark IS Brodie, Brodie IS the shark in the novel, same way the birds in Hitchcock's THE BIRDS are the psychic id of the clingy mother played by Jessica Tandy - manifestations of her fear her son will leave her for Melanie (played by Tippi Hedren). In the opening Brodie is fantasizing about the bouncing breasts in bikinis of girls on the beach and then we cut to Chrissy's (first victim) thorax being discovered by the deputy and the author notes one breast is sagging and deflated on the torso "as flat as a flower pressed in a memory book." Notice how Spielberg doesn't show the thorax (which can't be explained away with "well the shark didn't work") - again, they want the PG rating. All of this is typically explained away with "Well it's more horrifying because your imagination blah blah..." No, I assure you, showing it is more horrifying.
Pauline Kael wrote the best review of JAWS and she called it a comedy, not just any comedy, but "funny in a Woody Allen way" - which it is.
JAWS still waits for its director. And Spielberg be damned if he lets that happen:
bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3670649/steven-spielberg-reportedly-still-determined-prevent-jaws-reboot-happening/
So, they shot the first bit of footage on the east coast then thought they could cut in footage shot on the west coast with the sun setting. That makes zero sense.
No. All the Alex Kintner footage was filmed off the beaches of Martha's Vineyard.
Spielberg had completed all principal photography and gone back to LA where he shot the Ben Gardner's head sequence in a swimming pool. Joe Alves stayed in Martha's Vineyard to film the Kintner scene - which then got cut.
Okay but didn't you say they were trying to get the shot as the sun was setting?
Jaws will never be equalled. Such a great movie. One of my favourites.
I don't intend on going through that hell again 😂👍
I know what a shark looks like ... coz I've seen one up close!
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I listened closely in case you had news of JAWS 3D blu ray transfer of the 3D elements they have already processed. One of us will get that news. I don't mind which of us gets it, I just wanna hear it!
O God I hope they don;t recruit you-know-whos to make a new commentary...
*RIGBY* So now look at that, the shark's nose - -
*LYONS* Yep, yep, the nose, that's right - -
*RIGBY* - - actually breaks the 4th wall - -
*LYONS* The wall!
*RIGBY* - - & my word you really do feel that bite now - -
*LYONS* Ouch!
*RIGBY* And look at that, as Hooper's lowered in the cage, you get a much more visceral idea - -
*LYONS* Visceral exactly, uh huh, yep, I feel it! absolutely - -
*RIGBY* - - of the risk he's taking - -
*LYONS* The risk! indeed, yeah! the risk!
*RIGBY* - - because now it really looks like the threat could attack from any side - -
*LYONS* Any side at all, exactly! behind, frontways, either side, yep!
*RIGBY* And of course the other factor - -
*LYONS* The other factor yes!
*RIGBY* - - the other factor - -
*LYONS* The other factor, exactly! the other one!
*RIGBY* - - the other thing to factor into the 3D mix, into the soup one might say - -
*LYONS* - - in the drink yes! the factor in the mix as you say!
*RIGBY* - - we might even venture to say into the soupy drink, & indeed why not? - -
*LYONS* Indeed! why not? why on earth not?!
There already is a Jaws 3D transfer it came out like 5 years ago. Thats all the blu-ray that comes with the 4k release at the end of July is, its just a reprint of the old blu-ray where the 3D version is a special feature. Its not 3D on the 4k disc
It's a bad movie but still enjoyable. And the 3D is actually very good with quite a huge depth of field and some genuinely impressive pop-out FX.
It's definitely the best way to view this installment.
@@lutherheggs451 Just to be clear, I;m talking about wanting a blu ray 3D transfer of the original 1975 JAWS, not a sequel. 3D elements already exist because the original JAWS had a 3D theatrical release a cpl of years ago.
@@Kilt-ManChris I missed seeing Jaws and Jaws 2 in the theater since I was a little kid. Though the novel Jaws was the first grown up book I read when I was 6. I did watch Jaws every day for a while on VHS when I was 11. Then finally Jaws 3D came out in theaters and you know it didn't really matter that it wasn't the greatest movie, the 3D was pretty amazing, much better than anything I saw years laters in the 2000's. And it was Jaws, music and water stunts and photography it was definitely a spectacle. Now Jaws: The Revenge despite its beautiful locale and great actors and fairly decent character continuity was more of a disappointment but still acceptable summer movie fare.
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It’s not mike Brody it’s Martin Brody
30 minutes wasted .
Good afternoon, Mayor Larry Vaughn 🫡 UA-cam, as you know, means "friendship"
But that doesn't mean we have to serve subscribers up as smorgasbord! 🦈🦈😂
@@Kilt-ManChrishaha😆👍